The NEW B-52 ENGINES Will CHANGE The Entire Aviation Industry! Here's Why

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Aviatrix

Күн бұрын

The United States military is about to give a cold war-era bomber aircraft a new lease of life, thanks to an upgrade that will see it fitted with new and more advanced engines. It is an upgrade that will see the workhorse of the country’s bomber force continue flying for a quarter century more, taking its total service time to about a century. Today, we reveal all the details about this move that is bound to alter military aviation industry.
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@johnslugger
@johnslugger Ай бұрын
*OMG!!!!!!!!!!! ITS ALL OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG!!!!! (I really hate these click-bait titles!!)
@doctorcrichton
@doctorcrichton 23 күн бұрын
It was all over for me when I drove my first Rolls Royce!! OMG! You cannot imagine such a quality. British obsessional quality .... to go as far as quality can go as standard...
@pilotdane1
@pilotdane1 23 күн бұрын
I know right !!!! - "THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE THE WORLD" !!!!.....new vacuum cleaner haha
@super_morto
@super_morto 22 күн бұрын
I like how they said the speed and I have still no idea how fast it goes.
@hlcepeda
@hlcepeda 21 күн бұрын
@@super_morto Mach 0.86 (for the P&W engines being replaced), so, 86% of the speed of sound, but at what altitude? SoS decreases with increasing altitude.
@super_morto
@super_morto 21 күн бұрын
@@hlcepeda And I still still don't know. MPH would be great thanks.
@timacrow
@timacrow 26 күн бұрын
When the B52 was rolled out, my mom was a recent college graduate; a few years later, in the late 1950s, she was a production/technical artist with Boeing working on B52s. She is now in her mid 90s, and the B52 still flies!
@larryulrich9110
@larryulrich9110 19 күн бұрын
Know what you mean. My mom was with CAP, Civilian Air Patrol. I was only in 2nd grade.
@DavidHiggs-no8zl
@DavidHiggs-no8zl 10 күн бұрын
great plane , over engineered , rolls royce engines will keep this plane in the skys for another 50 years ,
@alhubele654
@alhubele654 24 күн бұрын
Built back in the day when Boeing still produced quality aircraft that didn't fall apart in flight.
@karlschauff7989
@karlschauff7989 23 күн бұрын
Before DEI was the company's top priority.
@dennisbishop3016
@dennisbishop3016 19 күн бұрын
Old school. Slide rule engieering and responsible management.
@robbieshand6139
@robbieshand6139 13 күн бұрын
Probably why they're now using British engines 😂
@curthenry9398
@curthenry9398 Ай бұрын
I worked on B-52 in the early 70's, after discharge I hire a older man that worked at Boing in the 60's building B-52's. Jon and I spoke often on the B-52's, most conversation was that Jon did such a good job building B-52 and I did such a good job of maintaining B-52's they are still flying.
@blueblur6447
@blueblur6447 Ай бұрын
If only Boeing could get back to this era of innovations and quality.
@Inpreesme
@Inpreesme 28 күн бұрын
Boeing is now all about enriching shareholders, management, and the 1%. They have enough lawyers to tie anyone up in court that wants to go after them so don’t expect quality to suddenly become part of their mission statement
@fgm1197
@fgm1197 28 күн бұрын
For crying out loud stop it already
@ohger1
@ohger1 27 күн бұрын
What an idiotic statement.
@blueblur6447
@blueblur6447 26 күн бұрын
@@ohger1 What is idiotic about my statement?
@user-ij1sp7om9o
@user-ij1sp7om9o 25 күн бұрын
@@ohger1 ask two US astronauts stranded at ISS about how idiotic this statement is
@ginginthing
@ginginthing 25 күн бұрын
I worked on the rewing program for the 52H's back in the early 70's. I thought the fuselages were on their last few years of life back then. It's an amazing aircraft.
@mikeharrington878
@mikeharrington878 22 күн бұрын
I was assigned to Helicopter Training Squadron Eighteen out of Milton, FL back in the early 80s. We were at a tactical landing training field, and I was hanging around outside the bird because it was hot as hell, and it was cooler under the rotor wash. I was standing there next to the Allison engine in the bird, the blades wopping over my head, when suddenly I heard the roar of much, much louder engines. I looked up, and there was a B-52 at about a 60 degree angle of bank turning into final to Eglin AFB about two miles away. I heard that Stratofortress a mile away even while standing next to a turning helicopter. I can't imagine what it must've sounded like to any people that were directly underneath that behemoth turning into final like that. Even the pilots heard it inside as they were talking. Wild. Hopefully these new engines are quieter and burn cleaner. Man, that thing smoked, too. o.O Oh yeah, I need to also state for the record: ⚓GO NAVY⚓
@armadillotoe
@armadillotoe 18 күн бұрын
My USAF dorm room at Offutt AFB was at the end of the runway. When the B-52s had an emergency drill and they took off every 30? seconds it sounded like the end of the world. I suppose that was appropriate.
@jo-jobighiker5552
@jo-jobighiker5552 Ай бұрын
Click bate... B52's does an engine swap. How does this change The Entire Aviation Industry?
@studioxxswe
@studioxxswe 28 күн бұрын
agree
@chuck8094
@chuck8094 26 күн бұрын
That's what I was thinking. Thanks for saving me the time I might have wasted on this click bait.
@liamwhelehan2703
@liamwhelehan2703 24 күн бұрын
I don't think it qualifies as click bait... Everyone puts "World Changing!" or something else in the title of their video. Here I was looking for a video on the B52 re-engine process, and it did what it said on the tin, as long as you ignore the Hyperbole.
@Ronnie_B
@Ronnie_B 24 күн бұрын
*bait Historically, the B52 has black smoke trails...😅
@Mark-gu9ye
@Mark-gu9ye 23 күн бұрын
Thanks dude!
@MichaelKennedy-pn6kv
@MichaelKennedy-pn6kv Ай бұрын
Really nice to see them flying for longer, but how exactly will it 'CHANGE The Entire Aviation Industry!'???
@jeebusk
@jeebusk Ай бұрын
did you click the thumbnail? bam change 😅
@steveburke7675
@steveburke7675 Ай бұрын
...these jet engine youtubers needs to come up with a new schtick other than the weekly "this engine will change the aviation industry". Crap video. "Do not recommend Channel".
@protorhinocerator142
@protorhinocerator142 Ай бұрын
It will change history FOREVER
@tihomirrasperic
@tihomirrasperic Ай бұрын
so if they managed to replace the B-52 engines, it means they have the technology, and the next step is to replace the engines on the 747 family and there are a huge number of them everyone can talk about how the 777 and 787 are the pinnacle of technology, but the 747 is still the "queen of the sky"
@TheRavensOmen
@TheRavensOmen 28 күн бұрын
@@protorhinocerator142 It's a total game changer! This represents the most profound change since the dawn of time! IT'S ALL OVER!!!
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 28 күн бұрын
An F-15 flying escort on a B-52 started doing aileron and barrel rolls, literally flying circles around the B-52. The F-15 pilot told the B-52 pilot "Anything you can do I cab do better." The B-52 responded, "Oh yea? Watch this." The B-52 continued flying without the slightest change to heading, altitude or speed for the next several minutes. The F-15 pilot finally ask, "What are you going to do?" "Oh, I already did it. I shut down two of my engines."
@bluskytoo
@bluskytoo 28 күн бұрын
similar story in C-130s and A-10s, only the C-130 pilot gets up and goes to take a leak and get a cup of coffee.
@wayne-lj4in
@wayne-lj4in 27 күн бұрын
Love it! :>)
@SteveS-dj4nq
@SteveS-dj4nq 27 күн бұрын
A retired B-52 pilot told me that story/joke, but said four engines were shut down….
@PatrickJDoyle-bw3fu
@PatrickJDoyle-bw3fu 26 күн бұрын
One of the stories is, the transport pilot is speaking to a fighter pilot that is able to do all kinds of maneuvers, the transport pilot says, watch this, after minutes of silence the fighter pilot asked what he did, the reply was, oh went back and made my self some lunch, took a nap then went to the bathroom, silence from the fighter pilot
@frisk151
@frisk151 26 күн бұрын
Okay... That was funny
@OFallons
@OFallons Ай бұрын
“AI” reader seems pretty silly, it’s not the Army Air Corp anymore it’s the “AIR FORCE” the B52 was introduced when the AiR FORCE is running the show not the ARMY AIR CORP,
@Critical-Thinker895
@Critical-Thinker895 Ай бұрын
Yea I saw that Army logo at the beginning and laughed. It became the Air Force before I ever served in the Air Force and I've been out 50 years.
@280StJohnsPl
@280StJohnsPl Ай бұрын
@@Critical-Thinker895 Same here F-4C Crew Chief :)
@Adrian_Nel
@Adrian_Nel Ай бұрын
@OFallons Yeah, just another example of cut-n-paste-without-reading-or-listening-before-postingKZbinism.
@derekheuring2984
@derekheuring2984 25 күн бұрын
I'll never forget the first time I saw a B52. It was 1974 and I was skydiving at Lake Elsinore in California. We always did a "Hop and Pop" at the end of the day to slowly float down as the Sun set. The views from 7,200' agl were magnificent at that time of day. A "Hop and Pop" was when we pulled our ripcords as soon as we were clear of the aircraft and had developed enough speed for the pilot chutes to pull our main chutes out. I was lazily hanging from my canopy when I saw a smudge of smoke off in the distance which I kept watching as it grew closer and closer. Eventually a fuselage and 4 engine pods were discerniblle. That's a very smoky DC 8 I remember thinking to myself. The aircraft kept moving towards me but it became apparent it was going to pass well to the West of the drop zone. It eventually got close enough that I could that the 4 engine pods each had 2 two engines....It's a B52! I shouted to no one but myself! Such a magnificent sight to be at the same height as the massive bomber!
@aldunlop4622
@aldunlop4622 24 күн бұрын
Cool story! I had a similar experience once - on a surfing trip we were camping, I woke up just before dawn and went for a surf on my own. There was no surf that day, so I paddled out about 100m and just sat on my board watching the sunrise on the flat ocean. It was dead calm, and silent. After a few minutes, something strange happened; the surface of the water started popping and I realised it was raining. I was wearing a wetsuit, so I didn't feel it. While I was sitting there enjoying this sparkling morning, I heard a rumbling sound down the coast which got louder and louder, and all of a sudden, 2 FA-18 Hornet fighter jets came screaming over the headland maybe a few hundred metres about the ocean. They flew straight over me, went the length of the beach and disappeared over the next headland. It took about 3 seconds. Went from this silent enjoyment of nature to the awesome power of technology within a few minutes. I'll never forget it.
@DavidHiggs-no8zl
@DavidHiggs-no8zl 10 күн бұрын
amazing story
@Za7a7aZ
@Za7a7aZ 28 күн бұрын
100 years,... Can you imagine 3 generations of the same family piloting the same b52
@stevetravelsaus
@stevetravelsaus 26 күн бұрын
They only started flying them in 1952. 72 years NOT 100. Not even close to 100 years.
@uliwehner
@uliwehner 25 күн бұрын
@@stevetravelsaus you must not have watched the video then. the point was made that the B52 with new engines can fly another 25 years. so, yeah, that makes it 100 years.
@tedlesher2884
@tedlesher2884 12 күн бұрын
3 generations is already there, probably 4 by now.
@edjarrett3164
@edjarrett3164 Ай бұрын
The Buff stands as a testament to Boeing engineering. It was built with slide rules and will be flying when the B1 and B2 bombers are in the boneyard. It was a vastly over engineered platform and it’s the reason for its continued longevity.
@lawrencegore6647
@lawrencegore6647 Ай бұрын
It was not over engineered. I was responsible for the design guidelines.
@edjarrett3164
@edjarrett3164 Ай бұрын
@@lawrencegore6647 Well it was better engineered than the follow on bombers. Maybe mission specs weren’t as clear on the newer bombers. I know utilization plays a key roll in airframe lifespan.
@lawrencegore6647
@lawrencegore6647 Ай бұрын
@@edjarrett3164Indeed it does. We redesigned the G/H for Cold War missions and training. Today's usage if far more benign.
@franksanta-teresa971
@franksanta-teresa971 27 күн бұрын
The Air Force became a separate service from the Army in 1947; 0:57 "the Army(???) made 8 variants of this bomber aircraft and designated them A through H."
@rumannkoch4864
@rumannkoch4864 Ай бұрын
Years ago, at the Fort Lauderdale Air & Sea Show, I saw a B-52 approaching from many miles away before the announcer introduced it because of its long black smoke trails. It passed right in front of us and then made a quick high-banking turn so effortlessly, like a fighter jet. Amazing! The Buff has always been a Beast. Can't wait to see what it can do with these new engines!
@kelvinfoote9897
@kelvinfoote9897 Ай бұрын
You should have seen what the Vulcan bomber used to be able to do. Take off and immediately climb at about 60 degrees.It could also bank very steeply and they even rolled the early model.. It was as quite a sight.
@houstongalloway6380
@houstongalloway6380 15 күн бұрын
@@kelvinfoote9897 Saw them at Barksdale AFB in 1974. They were awe inspiring!
@ak1ranger
@ak1ranger Ай бұрын
The 20-25 year old BR 715 turbofans will change the aviation industry forever? Why? They are neither new or cutting edge but they are the perfect size to still maintain the podded engine layout. The 715s are used on a number of other aircraft such as ALL Boeing 717s (MD-95), Gulfstream jets of some models, Cessna Citation X and others. So they aren't going to change the entire industry and this video doesn't explain what they mean.
@rokuth
@rokuth 25 күн бұрын
On the replacing the TF33 engines to 2 GE 9X engines, much of what was said in the video is correct, however, the other issue is the sheer size of the GE engine. It may have just been too big to put on a B-52. As for reducing the number of engines to 4, it would have been a single engine on each engine pylon. That would not only provided greater efficiency, but also lower drag. However, there are also other aerodynamic issues that may have occurred because of this, as well as the cost of modifying the structures to accept 4 engines instead of 8. As it is, the F130 has the same thrust of the original TF33 engines, meaning no need to alter structural elements for an engine of greater thrust, and/or size. It ensures reliability, and durability, saving overall costs for the remaining life of the B-52.
@georgedvorak9481
@georgedvorak9481 22 күн бұрын
Typical Murican idiocy - the GE engines don't smoke properly...
@chaseschneier1076
@chaseschneier1076 21 күн бұрын
What kind of modifications would be necessary? There are already 4 pylons and each could accept one engine. Sounds like someone is making a killing off this deal.
@okbutthenagain.9402
@okbutthenagain.9402 13 күн бұрын
You do realise right that the B52's are getting RR F130 engines and not GE's right?
@davidabbott1951
@davidabbott1951 8 күн бұрын
If mounting 8 engines was a critical need, I would think a military version of an engine in the CF34-10 series would have been a better candidate. Superior, frankly, to the Rolls engine as well. The CF34/TF34 family has one of the best performance track records of any engine that currently turns.
@some_guy441
@some_guy441 24 күн бұрын
Here at Barksdale AFB in Louisiana... AS LONG AS IT MAKES THEM QUIETER, I'M ALL FOR IT!
@derekheuring2984
@derekheuring2984 27 күн бұрын
One of these days the USAF is going to honor a Grandfather, Father, and Grandson who have all flown or worked on the BUFF.
@papa2z
@papa2z 23 күн бұрын
Sooner than later, My dad, fresh out of High School worked on and flew in B-52's at Altus, AFB in 1958-1961. My two sons are third generation, 39 and 35 years old. Surprised it hasn't happened.
@williampotter2098
@williampotter2098 Ай бұрын
Many airliners have been retired simply because their engines become outdated and engines with lower maintenance costs and more economical fuel burns are available to new jets. The Buff is well overdue for new motors. Kind of a no-brainer. The cost savings over going through a new aircraft acquisition is enormous. The attorney fees alone would pay for this modification.
@rodbutler4054
@rodbutler4054 Ай бұрын
There may be tax depreciation benefits in commercial purchase of new equipment.
@fw1421
@fw1421 Ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting on this since I was stationed at Barksdale AFB in the late 70’s. The BUFF has needed new engines for SOOOOO long! Better reliability,better efficiency,and way better maintenance costs.
@u2mister17
@u2mister17 Ай бұрын
And 90 MPH slower at cruse altitude.
@terrancestodolka4829
@terrancestodolka4829 Ай бұрын
Really since 1952, it needed better engines...
@u2mister17
@u2mister17 Ай бұрын
@@terrancestodolka4829 Turbo jet engines are much faster than turbo fans.
@hotdog9262
@hotdog9262 28 күн бұрын
@@u2mister17 one would think the main objectives are reliability and cost, not to mention the fuel consumption of a modern engine
@u2mister17
@u2mister17 28 күн бұрын
@@hotdog9262 One you think staying alive is the military's first objective.
@marcelb7259
@marcelb7259 25 күн бұрын
I have never seen such a good technical review on the B- and it's new engine before. Kudos for the great work guys ! Cheers from Canada.
@simonlunt353
@simonlunt353 Ай бұрын
I still can’t believe the B52 is still flying even after all its modifications well done to RR
@hiturbine
@hiturbine Ай бұрын
100 years' service for an airframe is so far beyond believability as to touch the realm of science fiction.
@matsv201
@matsv201 Ай бұрын
It was going to happen at some time. Technological advance following a S curve. So the airframe for heavy bomjer started to stagnate in 1950s
@bobclifton8021
@bobclifton8021 Ай бұрын
The C-47, also known as the DC-3 has been around since 1932. That's coming up on a century. There's also a number of Ford Trimotors still around and going strong. That's another century.
@hiturbine
@hiturbine Ай бұрын
@@bobclifton8021 The C-47 has not seen active US military service since 1975. The Ford Trimotor is a museum piece more than an airframe in active service. Whereas the B52H makes up 72 aircraft of three active Bomb Wings in regular service at two USAF bases: Barksdale AFB in LA (2nd and 307th), and Minot AFB in ND (5th). There's also the 412th, sationed at Edwards AFB as a "Test Wing") .
@bobclifton8021
@bobclifton8021 Ай бұрын
@@hiturbine While the C47 and Ford trimotor are not now in active military service they are still in use all over the world. They just keep on keeping on. You even have C47's now with turbine engines. I flew in one of those out of Somalia some years ago. It was a pretty high hog machine.
@pablogodi1392
@pablogodi1392 Ай бұрын
The MG-42 machine gun is going to be in use for a century in just 8 years, just now is "called" MG3 in Europe or M60 in USA, and all that without any notable modification
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 28 күн бұрын
The B-52 has been a front line combat aircraft for 60% of the history of aviation. The creation of the B-52 is closer to the first flight of any airplane than it is to the modern area.
@johncrispin2118
@johncrispin2118 Ай бұрын
Interesting, glad RR are supplying ,, perish the thought you could actually mention RR is a British company. ‘bout time then US bought something that was nominally British At least , been the other way round for too long . Good luck to the B52 we should have kept the Avro Vulcan for the same reasons , likewise as the Russian’s have kept their huge turboprop “Bears”😮
@johnzenkin1344
@johnzenkin1344 24 күн бұрын
@johncrispin2118...but the Yanks never like to give credit to other countries, they just like to kid their own public that everything is and was invented/created in America. It's all about propaganda and brain washing.
@patrickvillers6454
@patrickvillers6454 Ай бұрын
It's amazing that an aircraft conceived in a hotel room in 1948 Dayton Ohio carved out of balsa wood would have this longevity.
@jimmywilliamson8540
@jimmywilliamson8540 27 күн бұрын
It seems like they're spending a bit more money than they really need to but it's always surprising when the government does something that approaches practicality
@mi-t-mouth3413
@mi-t-mouth3413 26 күн бұрын
bribes
@kurtthomsen2414
@kurtthomsen2414 29 күн бұрын
I worked in the office responsible for B-52 development in the early 80s. We did studies on re-engineing (?) the aircraft back then.
@copferthat
@copferthat 24 күн бұрын
During WW2 the US produced the Mustang, which, due to under performance, had it's engines changed to Rolls Royce, which transformed it entirely. Here we have another Anglo American wedding of a great aircraft with a British engine, another wedding made in heaven.
@MrNoneofthisisreal
@MrNoneofthisisreal 24 күн бұрын
I guess you forgot how RR essentially bankrupted Lockheed with their failed engines in the 70s. Delayed the marvelous L-1011 past the sales opportunity sweet spot. Thanks RR
@martinwhitfield1362
@martinwhitfield1362 19 күн бұрын
I have watched too much KZbin but your intro started to sound like a KZbin App. "Russians hate it that a smart dude has found a way to make a new engine for the B52!"
@justgivemethetruth
@justgivemethetruth 12 күн бұрын
Boeing was awesome in 1948, and for a long time after. These new engines ... I just hope our B-52s don't start falling out of the sky.
@robertfritz3622
@robertfritz3622 Ай бұрын
It's about time!!! This has been needed for years!!
@VulcanAvenger
@VulcanAvenger 23 күн бұрын
A true testament to the slide-rule engineers of the time, committed and brilliant. Thank you to all who created and kept this big bird in service to protect our country all these years.
@moors710
@moors710 24 күн бұрын
When I was at Boeing in 1987, they found a wing from a B52 that had been misplaced for 25 years. During a remodel of plant 2 they found the carpenters had built a wall over a wing that had been set aside.
@chriswhite3692
@chriswhite3692 Ай бұрын
Grandpa BUFF will love his new legs.
@jerrydeanswanson79
@jerrydeanswanson79 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the program. The B-52H Stratofortress came to EAA in Oshkosh this year. What a sight...and sound!
@Tonetwisters
@Tonetwisters Ай бұрын
I've been hearing about these new engines for seven or eight years now; I woulda thought all this was long done and over with.
@shenmisheshou7002
@shenmisheshou7002 27 күн бұрын
This is just typical of government projects. First, the service has to build a case for the expenditure, then they have to go to congress to get money to do the program. Congress can be very slow to digest large military expenditures because with congress, there are always people that want to tack on some pet expenditures to any kind of spending bill. Next, the have to do the necessary design change evaluation. It isn't as easy as just bolting on the engine. All of the systems have to be re-evaluated to ensure that the engine can be compatible with the aircraft engineering. Next, plans for making any necessary changes have to be put together and bids need to be solicited for contractors in the event that some special work needs to be done that the USAF is incapable of doing. The engines then need to be tested in the configuration that they will operate in, using any upgraded controls and such. This process just takes a lot of time. The F-35 contracts started in about 1995, and the F35 did not enter service until 2015, so 20 years or so, and even then, when the F-35 was put into service, it was incapable of meeting the original contract goals (and still is, and will never meet contract goals.)
@sophdog1678
@sophdog1678 26 күн бұрын
Many years ago, I dreamt I was flying a B-52 - solo - and I remember all I could think of was how beautifully it handled. Amazing to see the type still in service after so long.
@rodeleon2875
@rodeleon2875 10 күн бұрын
when they emptied the alert pads in a matter of minutes during exercises, our barracks shook. after a couple years i got used to it and didn't even really notice.
@bertg.6056
@bertg.6056 Ай бұрын
These RR engines are off the shelf, and have been installed and performing in bizjets for years.
@jeffrey1312
@jeffrey1312 Ай бұрын
That's the real secret of military aircraft engines. Only fighter jets have special engines. Most military aircraft have standard commercial engines that have been renamed. That's a good thing, not a bad thing.
@bertg.6056
@bertg.6056 Ай бұрын
@@jeffrey1312 Exactly ! Not exactly industry-changing, is it?
@williamzk9083
@williamzk9083 29 күн бұрын
This started as a joint venture the BMW Rolls Royce BR-715. It was good to see BMW get back into aviation engines and jet engines which it pioneered. Rolls Royce Brought out BMW and of course Rolls Royce brought out Allison in 1992. It will need at least 560 engines to reequipped every B-52 so I imagine they will make about 1000 plus spares. I assume much of the engine will be made in the USA certainly final assembly.
@smiley3012
@smiley3012 28 күн бұрын
Yet they charge the military top tier dollar.
@bertg.6056
@bertg.6056 28 күн бұрын
@@smiley3012 Are you thinking a discount for Uncle Sammy?
@MyScotty7
@MyScotty7 23 күн бұрын
When I take a flight and see Rolls Royce engines on my plane I know it's a safe flight!
@fred1092
@fred1092 23 күн бұрын
When I was in the sixth grade my class went to Blytheville, AR which was a SAC base at the time. We got to go out on the tarmac and look at them. Huge! Really awesome planes.
@Bill-sp8kb
@Bill-sp8kb 22 күн бұрын
Won't change the aviation industry, but they'll do wonders for the B-52.
@sgttim8617
@sgttim8617 13 күн бұрын
My father, a Crew Chief, Involved in the Berlin Airlift, Woulda' been So...Proud, Too see thes new engines on the "Buff". He Remembered when the US Bought "Rolls Royce- Engines in the later years of WW2, to Put them on P-51- Mustangs ! It was only one of 2- Models of Propeller-Driven Aircraft, that could Take Down a " Jet - MiG", during the Vietnam War !
@airbrushken5339
@airbrushken5339 23 күн бұрын
I'm surprised ... as they closed all three Air Force Bases in Michigan, 2 of which were B-52 Strategic Air Command Bases and Selfridge, which was the oldest active Base that had every branch of the US Military located there, plus a large housing area, including housing for "Wives in Waiting". I left the US Army (5th Army) from Selfridge in 1979 to take residence in Australia as a Teacher and I retired here. I remember lines of them at Wurtsmith Air Force Base in Oscoda, Michigan ... Interesting post.
@user-gh2ff3yn4j
@user-gh2ff3yn4j Ай бұрын
Been hearing about this for years.I have yet to see it come to pass.
@dennisallen8333
@dennisallen8333 Ай бұрын
To change out the engines was a no brainer!
@davidchristensen6908
@davidchristensen6908 Ай бұрын
Wow, what a bargain the citizen got when the military authorized these planes. Oh yes lots of money spent, these will make 100 years. I wish I could be alive to see that. We will see.
@michaeldelaney7271
@michaeldelaney7271 12 күн бұрын
A little update on the B-52 updates/re-engine program. I've recently learned that the entire program is predicted to cost over $48 Billion dollars. If a new aircraft were being acquired instead, it would already have modern avionics, sensors, etc. Assume the B-52 upgrades (including new engines) will cost $50 Billion and the B-21 cost is $600 Million (currently $550 Million). So, now the comparison is 76 Antique B-52's (with some new equipment & engines) vs. 83 new B-21's (that are all new and have no fatigue issues). If the USAF doesn't need all the advanced features of the B-21 to do the B-52's mission, maybe they could procure a "reduced capability" model Raider. A B-21L (Lite)? For $550 Million, they could have 90 B-21L's. And, the B-52 still uses 8 engines, has a 5 (or 6) man crew, along with the Radar Cross Section (RCS) of a VLB (Very Large Barn). The B-21 uses 2 engines, 2 crew and is very "Stealthy" (low RCS). This B-52 upgrade program seems to be just more corporate welfare.
@sweynforkbeardtraindude
@sweynforkbeardtraindude 23 күн бұрын
My Pops drove a BUFF from 1955-1959. His grandson, my nephew is in the photo at 6:57 of this video. Pretty damn cool!
@frankgordon8829
@frankgordon8829 24 күн бұрын
In Vietnam there were TWO weapons that could not only scare the shit out of even the FRIENDLY troop but the enemy as well. ONE, was the battleship! It threw a projectile as big AND as heavy as a Volkswagen. When it hit, it decimated an area as big or bigger than a CITY BLOCK! The second, was the B52. You didn't even know you were about to go into eternity! They were SO HIGH, you never heard them! There were a few enemies who, by sheer luck survived & when U.S. troops came upon them, they were bleeding from the ears & sometime the eyes! They were in total shock. You look at the swath of devastation & it was hundreds of yards wide & 1/2 mile long. Those were called "Arclight strikes." Even when the Vietnamese retreated to the HUNDREDS of miles of tunnels (which provided good protection from artillery), they were NEVER safe. Hundreds died in those tunnels. By direct hits or the pressure wave that exploded their ears & even heart! There are young pilots flying those that their GRANDFATHER flew the same planes!
@ronhat-nx6yq
@ronhat-nx6yq 27 күн бұрын
With today's missile and detection systems, I would think the B52 would be a flying duck.
@marknicholson2281
@marknicholson2281 24 күн бұрын
No matter what improvements are made in missiles there will always be improvements in EW tech to protect these. It’s been the case since the 70s. Vietnam had SAMs but B-52s conducted bombing raids. Over 200 B-52s flew in Operation Linebaker. Over 250 SA-2s launched. Just 12 B-52s lost with 9 damaged. That’s 12 missiles a kill and just 1% loss rate and 20,000 tons of bombs dropped. As missiles develop so does EW and anti-missile technology. A B52 has a dedicated EW crew member and a large amount of EW equipment that is unable to be carried in smaller aircraft. And they won’t be alone USAF will obtain domination of the airspace before the Buffs are sent in. Which side has the upper hand in the technology in any future conflict is far from certain.
@JanPeterson
@JanPeterson 22 күн бұрын
@@marknicholson2281 Plus, with stand off weapons, the B-52 doesn't have to be anywhere near the target.
@georgespalding7640
@georgespalding7640 21 күн бұрын
Living in Hemet back in the 60s, I remember the B-52's on their practice runs from March Air Force Base flying over the valley almost every day with regularity. We called them the Angels of Death because we knew what their purpose was and we knew what they were designed to carry and deliver. Thank God they never were used for their original intent or I wouldn't be here commenting in this thread. March Air Force Base was one of the primary targets of the Soviet Union in the event of nuclear war.
@MrHistorian123
@MrHistorian123 24 күн бұрын
The B52 is obsolescent. The airframes are now getting close to the end of their life and an engine upgrade isn't going to change that. It also has the radar cross section of a small galaxy and would be easy pickings for any half-modern air defence system.
@Davethreshold
@Davethreshold 20 күн бұрын
My late friend Rob was a B-52 Jet Mechanic. His security clearance was just under, or equal to the President.
@bellis872
@bellis872 19 күн бұрын
I don’t care what others may think, but I thoroughly believe the B-52s are BAD ASS airplanes!!!
@deltavee2
@deltavee2 Ай бұрын
The BUFF came by it's name honestly but watching them moving down the runway with the wings still low over the runway they look like beautiful pissed-off hawks (or eagles for y'all) with a bad attitude. Those new RR P-130 engines will push them well past the Mach .8 they are currently capable of. They are badasses each and every one matched only by the equally badass crews that fly them, some of them third generation BUFF crew. Long and strong may they fly, constant and reliable warriors in the continued defence of democracy. They fight for and are a symbol of the free world. They fly and fight for us all, the many countries that love and admire the U.S.
@geoffgeoff143
@geoffgeoff143 Ай бұрын
I notice they aren't replacing the wiper blades
@I.M.A.Panther3619
@I.M.A.Panther3619 Ай бұрын
😂🤣😅😂
@uingaeoc3905
@uingaeoc3905 29 күн бұрын
@@I.M.A.Panther3619 Yes! and that will be designated as B52K so as to not cause confusion!
@eagle2019
@eagle2019 21 күн бұрын
Not needed with the new RainX dispensers!!
@nordan00
@nordan00 28 күн бұрын
I got in those things when they were 30 years old. I got out of those things 32 years ago. I cannot believe that they’re projected to go for another 30 years. Statistically, it’s highly likely that they’re gonna outlast me by at least a decade or two!
@martinschneider7130
@martinschneider7130 22 күн бұрын
I thought, that this could still wait some 25 years. The First 100 years are still Not over !
@venturefanatic9262
@venturefanatic9262 Ай бұрын
Change the Industry is a stretch, but changing it's history isn't. Imagine these things lasting 100+ years?
@hawklord100
@hawklord100 Ай бұрын
RR engines, it is going to be a winner for sure
@hughjass-pz3cp
@hughjass-pz3cp Ай бұрын
yeah, islamist engines.
@B-A-L
@B-A-L Ай бұрын
​@@hughjass-pz3cpWtf are you on about?
@nathd1748
@nathd1748 25 күн бұрын
​@@hughjass-pz3cpWTF you on about?
@Thewaldo12345
@Thewaldo12345 28 күн бұрын
I was on the baseball team at LSU Shreveport when 911 happened. We were at practice when the sky seemingly went black with all of the fleet in the air.
@frankbaine3918
@frankbaine3918 21 күн бұрын
Rolls Royce engines saved the P-51 Mustang from mediocrity and enabled it to protect US B-17s from the Luftwaffe pretty much all the way into Germany and back. So yeah!
@faschwank
@faschwank 28 күн бұрын
Hey robot voice man, the Army didn't adopt the B-52. It was the Air Force. Get your facts straight.
@Thomas-em9du
@Thomas-em9du Ай бұрын
In the 60s Pratt and Whitney had a B52 on loan to test their JT9 series engine. That engine eventually powered the Boeing 747 and C5 cargo aircraft. I was weird to see the B-52 flying over Connecticut with one large test engine and 3 sets the TF33 engines😊
@chrissmith7669
@chrissmith7669 Ай бұрын
The reengining is hardly groundbreaking. Take on off the shelf engine and make it fit the existing hole
@shenmisheshou7002
@shenmisheshou7002 27 күн бұрын
It is considerably more complicated than that. All of the engine control systems have to be re-done and the provisions for the software controls that are typical of most of these modern engines has to be incorporated into the B-52.
@chrissmith7669
@chrissmith7669 27 күн бұрын
@@shenmisheshou7002 but it’s hardly going to change the industry.
@shenmisheshou7002
@shenmisheshou7002 27 күн бұрын
@@chrissmith7669 No, nothing here but business as usual. Cleary the channel pimped up the title.
@ianjardine7324
@ianjardine7324 Ай бұрын
Another important factor in keeping the eight engine design is redundancy the last thing the air force wants is a plane going down in unfriendly areas due to engine failure or damage and due to it's size the Buff has limited option for landing even in friendly territory. Two engines is fine for a commercial jet which can land almost anywhere if they lose half their thrust the Buff would have to lose four engines to have the same urgency.
@richardbarber4444
@richardbarber4444 Ай бұрын
It has been noted that due to cross-talk between paired engines air intake if one of the pair shuts down so too must the other. This observation from a retired aircraft designer when we were both contemplating design , face to face, of Concord!
@richard-in-willesden7945
@richard-in-willesden7945 25 күн бұрын
The new engines, which aren't really a "new" design, have been extensively tried and tested in commercial aircraft and should be very reliable, much more so than the engines they are replacing. The B-52 needs eight engines because the wing sits too low to the ground to accommodate four more modern larger diameter high-bypass engines. In deciding to proceed with eight new smaller diameter engines the design team appear to have discounted the possibility of jacking up the undercarriage so that the whole aircraft sits higher above the ground, thus enabling four larger engines to be utilised. An alternative strategy would have been to move the engines forward of the wing to enable them to be located higher up, but Boeing tried that with the 737 Max and it didn't end well. If it had been possible to use four larger and more powerful engines, such as the PW2000 used on Boeing C-17s and 757s, this would probably have been preferable to using eight smaller diameter and less powerful RR F130 engines, so the RR F130s are a bit of a compromise solution.
@ianjardine7324
@ianjardine7324 25 күн бұрын
@@richard-in-willesden7945 All good points but I think you're right about the designers looking at the 737 incidents and saying not only no but hell no. If there's an option that achieves the performance and economy targets without risking unforeseen safety issues and expensive structural changes the decision becomes a no brainer.
@paolozampieri2691
@paolozampieri2691 28 күн бұрын
USAF is never shy to spend money…when it’s not theirs!
@uliwehner
@uliwehner 25 күн бұрын
ok? are suggesting we make the USAF a profit center? hiring them out to the highest bidder for pay?
@The-KP
@The-KP 25 күн бұрын
4:10 to hear about the new engines
@warhorse03826
@warhorse03826 23 күн бұрын
Grandpa Buff gonna get warp engines and be in service for a thousand years.
@NotALot-xm6gz
@NotALot-xm6gz Ай бұрын
Grandpa Buff is still going to be in service in 2424 with ion cannons and trans-ward drive.
@armadillotoe
@armadillotoe 18 күн бұрын
The B-52 has to be the best bang for the buck of any aircraft. (see what I did there?)
@raywhitehead730
@raywhitehead730 27 күн бұрын
Upgrading engines or even new manufacturing engines for a airplane is not a new idea. I bet the Rolls Royce engines will do well. I remember changing RR engines on the AV8-A, Harrier. In those early days, engines were changed every 250 flight hours. We were constantly changing engines. A lot of work.
@MrBobTracey
@MrBobTracey 9 күн бұрын
Check your MIc audio. Frequent pops. Consider editing out breaths as well and less compression.
@Gary-zq3pz
@Gary-zq3pz Ай бұрын
How about shifting some of the defense production crews over to the airliner division? It'd be nice if they were built more like the military planes.
@williampotter2098
@williampotter2098 Ай бұрын
I'm very pro USAF. I was a pilot there. But the government designing military aircraft would double their cost.
@user-kj5td9hd3s
@user-kj5td9hd3s 28 күн бұрын
These were used during Vietnam. When they flew over all you could see was a white vapor trail.
@kitemanmusic
@kitemanmusic 23 күн бұрын
Black smoke means poor combustion. A mock-up picture of a 4 engine B52 would have been interesting. This plane would be cheaper to maintain.
@eagle2019
@eagle2019 21 күн бұрын
Unless it was a cartridge start!!! A four engine change would have cost substantially more due to airframe modifications and would require months more of downtime. The RR conversion is almost a modular change with the exception of the changes in the cockpit.
@tedlesher2884
@tedlesher2884 12 күн бұрын
Black smoke was mostly from water injection used on takeoff with earlier models.
@JTV84
@JTV84 24 күн бұрын
it's a shame other cold war era jets haven't fared so well, like the british V bombers.
@JanPeterson
@JanPeterson 22 күн бұрын
Will the new engines still be able to do a cartridge start? Or are they looking at adding an APU to the B-52?
@gringoviejo1935
@gringoviejo1935 21 күн бұрын
given that the new engines have the same thrust as the old ones, how can this re-engining allow shorter runway take-off runs?
@sebrofc
@sebrofc 24 күн бұрын
As long as it still screams like a pack of demons escaping from the depts of hell it's got my vote 🤣
@awatt
@awatt 24 күн бұрын
It'll do that but in British
@IbocC64
@IbocC64 12 күн бұрын
Yes, because we should trust the advice of Boeing. Sure...
@NathanDean79
@NathanDean79 14 күн бұрын
The B-52’s have been re winged and had new engines installed. Gone are the days when a bomber flys over a target and opens its bombs bays and 30-40 bombs fall out or even flying over a target and dropping one nuclear bomb. The US has around 750 Air Lauched Cruise missiles with 150 kt warheads that have a range of 1800 miles. The B-52 Carrie’s these and can carry non nuclear missiles and satalite and laser guided bombs. In a nuclear war ever B-52 we have will be loaded with these cruise missiles and every B1 bomber we have will be loaded with them too. They will fly with fighter escorts to a point on the map well outside of air defense range and fire these missiles. The B-2 and especially the B-21 can fly over a target and drop a bomb on it. Even our nuclear gravity bombs can now have a JDAM kit put on them that will enable the plane to drop The bomb about 30-40 miles From the target and it will be guided to the target.
@jimorr820
@jimorr820 Ай бұрын
The army doesn't fly the B-52, the Air Force does. Your credibility just went down the drain.
@glennridsdale577
@glennridsdale577 Ай бұрын
And “the army” certainly didn’t build them!
@vobchopper
@vobchopper Ай бұрын
Don't be so pedantic
@user-su2sh9ve7g
@user-su2sh9ve7g Ай бұрын
@@glennridsdale577 True, Boeing built the planes when 'they' knew how to build a airplane before the merger with McConnell-Douglass...
@williampotter2098
@williampotter2098 Ай бұрын
@@vobchopper Yeah, the truth is so pissy. Go back to your sandbox.
@mountainadventures7346
@mountainadventures7346 Ай бұрын
The USAF was born from the US Army Air Corps. After WW2…. That was the badge at the beginning of the video?
@MrYort13
@MrYort13 23 күн бұрын
So how is that wire bundle holding up? Oh its not, ever see a tie strap after 15 years? The engine if far from the issue. How are the fittings on the gear? This is just another hole to dump BILLIONs into.
@RightWingNutter
@RightWingNutter 22 күн бұрын
So same thrust, much greater fuel economy. Plus new radar, likely ECM, and avionics. I presume the newest glide bombs and cruise missiles will will work also.
@kevint9702
@kevint9702 Ай бұрын
Isn't the US military supposed to use products made in the USA?
@marklittle8805
@marklittle8805 Ай бұрын
Rolls Royce has an American division. It isn't like it is a Russian company or something.
@rickwalker2
@rickwalker2 Ай бұрын
They use lots of products from other countries.
@johnbrobston1334
@johnbrobston1334 27 күн бұрын
(a) Rolls has a US manufacturing facility. (b) NATO treaties require that the US use a certain amount of equipment from other NATO members. I remember my boss kept telling me "Pad the bid, the Navy doesn't want a British propeller". Guess what . . .
@ericwelsh4853
@ericwelsh4853 Ай бұрын
So, I think we're never going to see a four-engine B-52. I really wanted that to happen.
@fw1421
@fw1421 Ай бұрын
That would require an engine like those on a Boeing 737 Max. The B-52 wing moves up and down a LOT. That would put the engines very close to the ground on taxi/take off/landing. The smaller diameter engines are higher up,safer and already a very proven design. Look what happened with the 737 Max 8. They had to move it forward and up changing a lot of parameters,so much that they had to make big software changes to the flight data computers because the 737 is a fly by wire design,the B-52 is not. These smaller diameter engine were the best way to go without having to redesign the whole wing too.
@denali9449
@denali9449 Ай бұрын
This has been covered multiple times by the USAF and Boeing. Biggest reason to stay with the eight engines is stability. The plane is already limited in yaw control as a result of reducing the height of the vertical stabilizer years ago. If one engine on a wing fails with an eight engine plane the corresponding thrust reduction is only 25% on that wing. On a four engine plane the reduction would be 50%. The other issues have to do with the way the electrical and mechanical systems are designed. The amount of rewiring and new hydraulic plumbing to accommodate the four engine design was cost prohibitive.
@Thwarptide
@Thwarptide Ай бұрын
As long as the B52 has a valuable place in the fleet yet Considering the fly excellent weapons platform, the amazing longevity of the airframe, I simply have no clue why they do not build more while incorporating all the modern upgrades.
@KlausErmecke
@KlausErmecke Ай бұрын
Would you mind go away from these bombastic announcements?
@gottfriedheumesser1994
@gottfriedheumesser1994 Ай бұрын
No, they are stuck to that nonsense!
@williampotter2098
@williampotter2098 Ай бұрын
@KlausErmecke Would you use proper English and take the time to explain what your seeming whiny complaint is?
@williampotter2098
@williampotter2098 Ай бұрын
@@gottfriedheumesser1994 What are you whining about? I was a USAF pilot and had a career flying jets. This is important news to people. If you haven't been paying attention, Russia and China with help from North Korea have been restarting the Cold War after seeing a weak president in the US. We need this airplane and it needs new motors. Is it that hard for you to understand? I'm very interested in new development in this story.
@gottfriedheumesser1994
@gottfriedheumesser1994 Ай бұрын
@@williampotter2098 The titles of the episodes on this channel are 'not extremely wise'. and your postings too. I also have several thousand flight hours and landings in my 'sitting organ'. You seem to be the typical US citizen who is hated all over the world because of his feeling superior to all others and having little knowledge of what's outside the USA. Keep your wisdom for yourself!
@gottfriedheumesser1994
@gottfriedheumesser1994 Ай бұрын
@@williampotter2098 Donald Trump and Boris Johnson: Their hair has the color of straw, and what's below is not different.
@seannash4695
@seannash4695 27 күн бұрын
I fully support this choice but please try to keep the black powder quick start feature.
@jamesthompson7969
@jamesthompson7969 9 күн бұрын
No water assist take-off...No longer a 1550 gallon water tank needed? We had water on the 'G' model...(Crew Chief Grand Forks, North Dakota.)
@cosmovg9955
@cosmovg9955 19 күн бұрын
The buff is forever 😂
@tomrichter244
@tomrichter244 Ай бұрын
Any idea about where these upgrades will be accomplished
@Tbobelak
@Tbobelak 24 күн бұрын
Just don't let Boeing redesign the doors
@andrewrae6755
@andrewrae6755 22 күн бұрын
Rolls-Royce Holdings plc, a British multinational company, owns Rolls-Royce, (NOT North America,) the business that designs, manufactures, and distributes power systems for aviation and other industries. Rolls-Royce Holdings was incorporated in February 2011. As of April 2021, the top 12 shareholders of Rolls-Royce Holdings plc owned 52% of the company, with no single shareholder having significant control. Some of the shareholders include:
@MegaMesozoic
@MegaMesozoic 22 күн бұрын
....and?
@FlyFishMike_
@FlyFishMike_ 21 күн бұрын
Boy howdy I wish YT could ban all AI content and AI - narrated videos. At any rate, I remember staying on base in Fort Worth, TX with family when certain B-52s were testing out 4 larger turbofan engines instead of the 8 regular engines. They were doing 'touch-n-go' landings and takeoffs. I was amazed at how much quieter the larger 4 engines were, but it didn't seem like a real B-52 and I'm glad they stuck with the original 8-engine design.
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