💥 The New DCF840 STUNS DeWalt Fans! vs Milwaukee & Flex

While everyone was hyped about the DeWalt Atomic DCF850, Stanley Black & Decker was busy releasing the DCF840 at Lowe's. Let's put the DCF840 against the Milwaukee 2853-20 Gen 3 and the Flex Quick Eject!
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[@juanc5149]

The 850, has the heavier hammer impact, the 840 has the faster ipm rating. I think the upcoming 887 xr replacement. (Probably next year.). Will combine the faster IPM of the 840 with the heavier impact hammer of the 850 or 887 and get something that can be top performing impact driver in the market, for a little while at least. Also that Juan C guy, probably just got lucky with his guess or something lol.

[@PhillyFixed]

You da man!

[@olgajoachimosmundsen4647]

I have the 888, and hoping the next gen will be significantly better. I really liked the 850, and have even tried it. It fits in your hand like nobody's business, but was hoping for a littlebit more power!

[@PhillyFixed]

@@olgajoachimosmundsen4647 Looking forward to what their next XR can do for sure!

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Defenitly would be nice to see @Juan C

[@sethjohnson940]

If they could only make a drill that compact!!????!! Now that would be top notch. They already crippled the market with the new power stack battery. I say keep going lol

[@imjoekang]

"It's dead Jim" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂👏👍 5:50

[@MrHumberto2205]

Thanks for the video bro, enjoyed it! 😉

[@tahakhan2465]

In one way I will say that when it comes to Dewalt impact driver the pro category is Dewalt XR 877 and Dewalt atomic 850 are on the top of the line know they cannot beat flex quick abject and Milwaukee m18 fuel but same rate as Makita but when it comes hammer drill the dewalt X-r and flexvolt advantage are #1 in drills then comes Makita XTG and #3 comes Milwaukee #4 comes rigid, ryobi hp one +

[@meagaindave2049]

Great demonstration, Jim. For sheer power, I'm still stuck on the m18 2853, for finesse, comfort, and precision, anything Makita. Even the XDT13 (without power settings) is effortless to use. 👍

[@cobuck4007]

Great vid. Love your comparison format. I’ve been watching your videos since you started. What’s it been like learning and progressing through your production process/abilities over time?

[@TheBootyWrangler]

Dude that intro with the 850 and king of the world sound byte was absolutely 100% golden and beautiful. I am so happy with humanity that such things as that scene exist

[@skelley521]

Excellent video comparison and excellent quality editing for sideXside comparison. This would make a great and inexpensive present for a starter kit for the kids. Love the Ending. #LGB :P

[@tosvus]

I bought it yesterday and more than happy with it. Never had an impact driver before, so this is night and day from what I am used to.

[@PhillyFixed]

You picked a good first one!

[@Joethetoolguy]

Yeah I’m still shocked. Nobody’s touching the gen3 for a while tho. A huge improvement over the 887 I’d say.

[@Lee-lb9qh]

Man who cares about Hong Kong owned Milwaukee

[@FyrFytr998]

It’s newer, but not a direct upgrade. It doesn’t have the speed selector of the 887. DeWalt will definitely be dropping a selector version of the 840. Then you can compare.

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

99 bucks as a kit is a nice deal for the DCF840 I just grabbed the DCF850B for 57.46 was 99 bucks 2 weeks ago and had 50 Xtra pro dollars on my home depot account and used it 57.46 was a great deal for me will have to go grab one of these DCF840 kits thanks for the video as always Jim @Philly fixed

[@richardwang474]

I snagged up the 840 a little while ago and im very pleased with it. Great driver.

[@BakerZone760]

I got two of these sets that include the two batteries and bag. One for me and one for my brother. We are pool techs and I’ve always used a regular old wrench to open my filters to clean them. My boss always used Dewalt so I got two of these DCF840s like I said. They work perfect for pool filters. I’ve used them to dig holes at my local lake to dig in my fishing poles. It is a great drill for your everyday joe. Bigger batteries give you more power but the little black batteries they come with get it done for me.

[@mowork8468]

This is the video I have been whiting for! Thank you for showing off the DCF840! Can believe it is only $99 for the kit!

[@PhillyFixed]

It may go back up to $149 at some point, get em while they're hot! Best of luck on the channel by the way, I'm subbed!

[@bossmanz28]

@@PhillyFixed im actually seeing $159 on the lowes app on November 11th. So very soon. Says $99 thru 11/10

[@PhillyFixed]

@@bossmanz28 Wow I guess I got it confused with the Power Detect BOGO that goes through January... good catch!

[@OscyJack-]

I just upgraded from my old 885 to the 840 today. Haven't used it yet but I'm excited for a cheap upgrade. That and the recip are my last tools with a brushed motor

[@CraigularjJoeWoodworks]

Thus is my excitement for the day

[@dalittlebearjew8525]

Lmao IM THE KING OF THE WORLD WOOO! lol that intro was great

[@tidebounce9149]

The side-by-side-by-side comparisons are awesome. Great review. Thanks.

[@adamschaafsma5839]

I wonder how many folks are missing out on the gems at the end of these videos. Love it! Thanks for the reviews!

[@natefxx]

New outro is fire

[@PFab]

I just noticed that.... where's Brandon?

[@nickscott4488]

Nice little LGB Easter egg at the end of the video there Jim.

[@geoffstrickler]

Come on Jim, clearly biased testing…wearing Milwaukee gloves that the DeWalt clearly has an adverse reaction to and makes it feel unwelcome. And why do you think the Flex just quit on one job? Hostile work environment. 😁

[@PhillyFixed]

🤣

[@reaperreaper5098]

I picked up the 840 in a stacked lithium kit. Much to my surprise, it actually has a quick eject collet, unlike a certain grey Barnaby tool.

[@PhillyFixed]

The 840 has become my general-use impact for house projects 👍 being nitpicky, I wish it had speeds, but if I need to be that careful I use a drill or screwdriver with clutch settings instead.

[@reaperreaper5098]

@@PhillyFixed It’s a contestant to become my backup screwgun for when I leave my tools at one job and go to another one at the last second

[@86Sando]

That intro was hilarious. Hahaha

[@lonedesertfox]

Your editing is looking crisp!

[@PhillyFixed]

Thank you!

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Lmfao at the intro With Liam nice @Philly Fixed

[@mowork8468]

I want to see the same video again when the power Stack battery comes out. I think it will be interesting. thanks again for the video first bigger KZbin to do this test thank you!

[@Fictitious_Character]

The Flex is holding its own. If they had more in the line it could be more interesting. The 840 for the price and what you get looks pretty solid. Personally I prefer more bells and whistles with speed settings and specialized settings like the xdt16 over the variable speed trigger.

[@PhillyFixed]

Same here, I have the need... the need, for speeds

[@FyrFytr998]

I’m gonna reserve judgment until DeWalt drops their newest full size 3 speed Impact that uses the newer Power Stack batteries. The 840 is a good start, and the 850’s size gets the fans of black and yellow motivated. At the end of the day though, these are just the beginning of the next generation of DeWalt’s line. You’ll know they’ve peaked once the full sizes with Blue Tooth hit the market. I highly doubt they are gonna put all their eggs in the Atomic basket.

[@PhillyFixed]

I agree -- although they've certainly invested a lot in the Atomic line recently with the 921 and 923 impact wrenches and the 850 impact. I'm surprised there's no atomic 5-3/8" circ saw to correspond to the Xtreme 12V circ over at Lowe's.

[@TheBootyWrangler]

They let us down with the 845… but I don’t know if they were necessarily shooting for something more powerful than what already exists considering the # they chose for this one. Still, they put the xr logo on it and it can’t outcompete the 840 except on specific tests… Zzzzz

[@joshuasutton2163]

I think I’d go with the 850 personally. It’s already slightly more powerful than my 887, it’s way more compact and it has the same speed selector. I may end up getting the new xr, but let’s be honest, in order to spank the m18 fuel and the flex you would need an impact power with simply ridiculous power, and I’m not looking for that. We’ll see what Dewalt comes out with but I’m liking the looks of the 850. On a side note Jim, your videos have come a long way in a short time, I think you have the ratio of intro to testing as well as editing all the testing together down perfectly. It’s very easy to watch and compare the different tools. Great work.

[@PhillyFixed]

Thanks, Joshua! And yes at some point you don't need an impact that can snap off socket adapters because they're so powerful. I do wish the 840 had some mode options. It's so similar physically to the Xtreme 12V, they could have just included the same mode selector on top. But I think they were targeting the aggressive price point.

[@davidvillegas5885]

Great video demonstrations I also gotta say I love the way you put movie and TV show clips in them keep it up. I think all 3 Of these impact drivers are very good You can't go wrong.

[@rockfordhx2768]

I just got into impact wrenches and hammer drills and knew I was going dewalt my dad died In 05 when I was 9 he left behind some dewalt drills 18v line old school stuff and I never used them batterys went shot on all the stuff and now I’m 28 I’m starting to build things and needed a good impact driver I got the atomic dcf840 and man it’s a monster I cannot believe the power that thing has honestly

[@louiewiessv5756]

The references are awesome!

[@georgeferlazzo7936]

Hello again Philly Fixed Thank you for another Great Video. I was wondering if you could recheck the Dcf840 with the Power Stack Battery. That might make a difference in performance? Again thank you

[@PhillyFixed]

I will as soon as I can get my hands on one!

[@georgeferlazzo7936]

@@PhillyFixed Thank you

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

That dcf840 is pretty quick defenitly not doing to bad at all against the Milwaukee or the flex

[@scottdezieck7056]

All 3 will get you the job done with the difference at the end of the day is the time it take a you to take a sip of your coffee. Enjoy your coffee ☕

[@ToolswithSoAlz]

"That's a nice little tool" that's what she said

[@PhillyFixed]

😅

[@8bitsamurai6]

I still really like the 850 though. The form is dope multi speed if needed and can get free powerstack batteries at the moment. So still better imo unless u get the 229 deal with 2 stack batteries. Hope the 840 maybe get cheaper cuz people sleeping on it. But people sleep on lowes anyways. Like the extreme line over atomic.

[@jacobsebastien3910]

I agree I rather the 850 also'

[@6548ww]

Was really impressed with the Milwaukee Wow 👍

[@atrainace114]

Philly fixed you the man! No you the man. cant wait to see you get ahold of the power stack. Come on Dewalt get your boy philly some love!!!!!

[@ProxyFinal]

It’s actually shorter than the Makita subcompact. You can say this impact driver reigns in the subcompact department in terms of power.

[@ichalmeong7071]

I love DCF 850 by design I love Milwaukee by performance FLEX : YES

[@toolhead147]

Great video! That little dewalt is 🔥 a beast

[@bettinanstevens9259]

Does the DCF850 ever go on sale or come as a BOGO.?? I had to get my socket impact driver in the form of a 3/8" DCF923 in a bogo deal so I could justify the price. I wanted the 1/2" DCF901 at first but could not find a great deal on it at the time and now I'm kinda glad because I have it in the 3/8 version. With my savings, I bought a full set of 3/8 impact sockets 8mm-22mm deep shallow and intermediate f

[@PhillyFixed]

It actually was on a BOGO when it first came out in 2021, but I haven't seen it on a deal like that since 🤷‍♂️

[@AntonioClaudioMichael]

Defenitly looks like a good improvement over the Dcf887 @Philly fixed

[@jerrodnewsome1495]

Awesome ending I see you are a part of the "LGBFJB" community. Thank you !!!

[@PFab]

We're gonna have to chat with your brother Gavin about CA issues 😆 🤣 😂

[@MasteringMayhem]

Man, I missed the premier. Watching now though. Milwaukee Gen 3 Keeps showing up and showing out. The new dewalt is pretty capable though. For $99 in a kit, it's a great bargain. 🙂✌️❤️

[@tammyshellikoff3482]

Same here

[@ManCaverTools]

love that impact bro.

[@tammyshellikoff3482]

Thank you for your hard work

[@ToolReviewZone]

This is definitely a good impact 👏

[@rileytaylor1206]

I love that intro.. pure gold

[@paedahe4975]

What is a second or two in the scheme of things? It’s your life. Can’t get back all the lost seconds/minutes/hours/days. Thx for showing us what will work for our needs.

[@ricksgiggle8852]

Yup. Even if it's by a few seconds all those seconds add up. Eventually seconds turn into hours, days, weeks, months, years! 👽

[@jay3412]

How is the 840 for delicate work and how does it compare to the Milwaukee brushless non-fuel impact?

[@PhillyFixed]

It's like any impact without modes, it relies on your trigger control to successfully do delicate tasks. The trigger on this one is pretty good, fortunately. I would say it's very comparable in performance to the non-fuel, maybe even a hair better. But the Dewalt is noticably smaller and lighter.

[@EireFirst2024]

How's it going,does the 850 come in single speed? As a chippy all I need is my finger for control, never actually got the 3 speed thing to be honest 🤨

[@PhillyFixed]

The 850 only comes in 3 speeds... So just leave it in 3 and don't touch the switch! Haha

[@EireFirst2024]

@@PhillyFixed cheers, thanks for the reply, can't see why they don't offer it in a single speed, just my preference ✌️

[@EireFirst2024]

Update - I got it yesterday, today can't find it ( it's so small 😂) Anyway I love it 😍💪💪

[@nick.k]

@Philly Fixed: Can you compare Makita XDT131 with DCF840?

[@PhillyFixed]

Sure!

[@nick.k]

Philly Fixed : Thank you. Subscribed and waiting for your video.

[@sethjohnson940]

On the bottom of the 850 there is a little plate with 2 screws. I took it off to see what it is because I never saw it before on any of my other tools. But it's hollow empty space. Do u have any idea on what this is for?

[@PhillyFixed]

I did notice that but forgot to check. It might be Tool Connect compatible?

[@sethjohnson940]

@@PhillyFixed when u get a chance look into it or make a video on it. I haven't seen anything on web or KZbin about it. Is the tool connect an extra u can buy for it?

[@2hotscottpro]

I thought it was for something to kill the tool if stolen.Do they think people are too dumb to remove 2 screws.lol

[@ragefilledvergin]

by doing them in the same growth ring you THINK you're more accurate on your test... the 2nd and 3rd lags inherently both benefit incrementally from the concept of displacement and as a result will have an incrementally easier time driving the lags as the number of holes increase in that growth ring. you need to leave a lag in each previous hole to attain a more even playing field

[@PhillyFixed]

Fair point.

[@ericnichols9275]

Hope DEWALT BRINGS out the New DCF 845 soon the new 5AMP POWER STACK is coming out next week

[@PhillyFixed]

It's already out! Check out Torque Test Channel's video from 12/7

[@toolbox1]

Great video!

[@jamessimmons542]

Just wondering- why on the chart does the flex rank 1 and the milwaukee 2 on the 12" by 1/2" lag?

[@PhillyFixed]

Oops! Definitely a mistake. Good eye!

[@builder_for_life4490]

In my own opinion agree with me or not but the way I see these new DeWalt impact drivers especially their newer ones is that I found something there. The old Atomic DCF809 is a Brush Less Version also the DCF787 is a brushless version of the old DCF885 Brush. Then the DeWalt came with a new 12V brushless impact driver the DCF801 Xtreme after a year or 2 DeWalt came again with a new dcf840 basically I see 840 is a 20V version of DCF801 Xtreme. Exactly the same size compact and small. And the newly came dcf850 is a midget, small sized or Downsized version of dcf888 and 887. Agree or not but that's how I see them.

[@antonsmekalov]

Very cool , so nice man 🥓👷‍♂️

[@msk3905]

Put the 840 up against new brushless Kobalt

[@robertcasey3528]

Bosch has a new impact driver unannounced and not advertised as well the gdx 18v 1860. The old one was 1800 which is the tools torque 1,800 in. lbs. New one is 1,860 in. lbs.

[@PhillyFixed]

Yup, our friends at Torque Test Channel tried that one out!

[@mytoolbox871]

comes with 2 * 1.3ah but the website says 1.5ag instead.... huge oversight by dewalt or lowes

[@PhillyFixed]

I think the small black ones used to be 1.5's and they downgraded them even further at some point. Might even be some 1.5's in some kits because I've seen other channels say they are 1.5.

[@mytoolbox871]

@@PhillyFixed thats no ezcuse for it though, i bought 6 of these kits, and they were all 1.3ahs. That's a big deal for me, inconsistency... especially coming from a global mega corporation like Stanley BD. And to think they want $159 originally for it, I am not surprised this thing is collecting dust at Lowe's. Anyways, dint wanna take away from this great impact, BUT i just gotta rant, will most likely do a video about it,.. im actually gonna take them all back and see if I can squeeze the manager for some free 2ahs or something. I don't mind them being 1.3ahs, I just don't like that its not what they advertise, to some it might not be a big deal, but to me it is. not what i ve paid for... its just principles... Cheers.

[@p24t]

Another great video Jim. From the start to the very, very end.

[@PhillyFixed]

😉

[@chuckmiller5763]

it seems that the Flex is heavier than the others. Can you weigh them?

[@PhillyFixed]

Sure, will do soon. But yes the Flex is by far the heaviest.

[@gilbertoleon1660]

Now let's see that dewalt with a flex bolt battery...🤭🤭

[@PhillyFixed]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aX_RnX-YarN3e9k

[@davidfisher3445]

I love the end

[@gabrielcampos9717]

Good video on DeWalt 840👍, best part 🚝🇺🇲😎let's go Brandon!

[@anonymous007advice]

The flex stopped as a safety feature all you have to do is hit the trigger again cause it thinks that you are already tight and it doesn't want to snap anything off. @5:40

[@PhillyFixed]

I pulled the trigger a bunch of times after it timed out, that's why it continued blinking.

[@jayhoughton558]

It looked more like thermal protection maybe cut in. That test got them very hot.

[@anonymous007advice]

@@PhillyFixed If it didnt work then I will take your word. I own that Flex and ive always noticed it will automatically stop once it feels tight as to not break the screw or bit. And it needs to be pressed again to sink the screw into the wood. However ive never pushed my tool to the max as you do to test them, so perhaps it was a thermal overload. Im curious if it would still perform that test from room temperatue instead of in your gauntlet. Anyways thnx for the response and channel.

[@PhillyFixed]

@@anonymous007advice It does have a screw assist mode, that might be what you're using when it does that?

[@anonymous007advice]

@@PhillyFixed I am aware of those two options. However i ran into that on speed 1 & 2 I havent tried speed 3 because i want the torque and its already fast enough for home use on 2 for me personally.

[@derrickeischens3993]

Not to mention all you miluakee fans flexing when he wasn’t using the xr impact driver

[@tedmcdonald3377]

😎🛠️😎🛠️😎

[@FunAtDisney]

For me whatever my next impact driver is (after several years of using a Black and Decker Matrix) I do want the versatility of at least 3 speed settings and/or having a slow start up mode. This 840 is nice, but for me a no for that reason.

[@PhillyFixed]

Understandable. I want to see what the new XR looks like, whenever it comes out!

[@seano932]

Slow start is really a nice feature I didn't even realize I wanted. My 840 cams out a lot, much more that other impacts I have, e.g. Xdt14, dcf801, which both have a soft start. I'm afraid I'll damage the work piece with the 840, gotta be more careful on the trigger.

[@toolnerd]

Nice job Jim! 😎😎🤓🤓

[@VibingCat39]

Please don't fail me now.

[@bossmanz28]

A good comparison would be atomic 3/8 or 1/2 dcf921 or 923 vs lowes version 3/8 or 1/2 dcf911 i think it is in driving lags. Ya know since dewalt wants to secretly with less marketing make the lowes guns have more power apparently. Atomic rated more torque but lowes gun has higher rpm

[@PhillyFixed]

I think I'm gonna do that! 👍

[@bossmanz28]

@@PhillyFixed maybe throw the 12v gun in the mix. The 20v seems to be the same impact as the 12v jus different battery. Would like to see the performance increase or not jus from battery

[@mexicant777]

Juan is my cousin, he’s a smart guy.

[@promo130]

in europe the dcf840 is arround 120 euro bare tool

[@hilariohernandez340]

Why are all test videos always up and down? I've use DeWalt for years as a non union electrician. Now I've been Union for a few years and I have to use Milwaukee, and I have a hard time screwing away from my body on a ladder with Milwaukee. Not sure why. I use DeWalt for my side work, and it's like a breath of fresh air. The type of work I do doesn't require power, i.e. lags. It's just drywall screws and machine screws I don't know what it is that makes me prefer the DeWalt.

[@PhillyFixed]

If that's the case, you should really give Makita a shot. Not the most powerful, but my favorite to use. As far as the vertical testing, that's a fair point. For now, you could check out Shop Tool Reviews, he usually clamps boards vertically in a vise. But I will consider it for future videos!

[@hilariohernandez340]

@@PhillyFixed I started with Makita, and I feel the the comfort is on par with DeWalt. I had issues with their batteries. The other thing too was that my coworkers back then always went through batteries. The smaller red ones.

[@PhillyFixed]

@@hilariohernandez340 My first cordless tools were Makita 18V on the current LXT line. My 3aH batteries from 2016 are still going strong. Good sales going on with Makita if you decide to check it out - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWjEdYeffspqhrM

[@rickyperkins232]

I am very impressed but I rather have my Flex quick eject. When I am using multiple driver bits this is the quickest solution

[@PhillyFixed]

I always forget the button is there and pull on the collet itself anyway when I'm doing this stuff 😅

[@b-2466]

Glad I bought the 840. Hopefully it will last a while.

[@wilkinrincon8423]

Dewalt 💪💪💪👈

[@luisriver11]

People always complain...

[@PhillyFixed]

True statement

[@johnlesoudeur3653]

Have to laugh at Americans calling tools guys. Good information though, thanks.

[@1Williams]

#LetsGoBrandon

[@bowtiedooley]

Let’s go Brandon! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@bootcampaddison]

Dewalt 20v drills are trash. All 7 of them.

[@vanceplace1349]

Everybody refuses to put a flexvolt battery on dewalt tools I don’t give a shit about these dumb ass tests I know when I use my flexvolt batteries it makes a significant difference to the performance to any of my non flexvolt power tools.

[@PhillyFixed]

If you don't care about these "dumb ass tests" then why do you care what battery I used? The 840 comes packaged with the pathetic black 1.3's, so I really should have used one of those. Get your t-shirt here: philly-fixed-merch.creator-spring.com/listing/you-used-the-wrong-battery?product=46

[@vanceplace1349]

@@PhillyFixed Your results are suspect. Is this channel brought to us by Milwaukee like another channel that refuses to test dewalt tools with flexvolt batteries because deep down you’re worried that you’re favorite red rocket will lose? lmao

[@PhillyFixed]

@@vanceplace1349 All tools were equipped with an 18650 cell 5aH battery. Sorry your favorite brand didn't perform the way you would have liked it to. If you're looking for biased testing that puts a different class of battery on one tool than the others in a comparison, you'll have to keep searching. I'm sure a Milwaukee fan will show up after you to tell me I should've used a High Output battery on that tool.

[@vanceplace1349]

@@PhillyFixed what kind of batteries did your friend have in the dewalt tools in thevideo clip you showed?

[@PhillyFixed]

@@vanceplace1349 NiCad

[@enkiphotographer158]

milwaukee is better..

[@timjd7964]

I bet if he had dewalt gloves the dewalt would of won lol