One of Jack's best reviews. It's time manufacturers' cloud cuckoo land range promises were called out. It's also good that the car's basic inadequacies were mentioned rather than just reading from the press release.
@murraybhenson6 ай бұрын
Whatever a car’s WLTP range is… take 20 percent off.
@MaticTheProto6 ай бұрын
@@murraybhensonwith the smarts you‘d arrive at their highway range with that measurement…
@bordersw12396 ай бұрын
Thank god it’s an SUV, just what the world needs. One thing we definitely don’t need are small cars like the Fiesta or Focus😉
@boatbuilderPortishead6 ай бұрын
😃
@sebyst79076 ай бұрын
Then don't buy it.
@likelikelikelikelikelike39716 ай бұрын
@@sebyst7907it was sarcasm. I think…
@sebyst79076 ай бұрын
@@likelikelikelikelikelike3971 I know it was sarcasm, but it's pointless sarcasm, suv or small car, don't matter with ev, for the most part
@2011ppower6 ай бұрын
sarky🤣
@patrickjr116 ай бұрын
The other elephant in the room is warranty for this car. 3 years?? Really?? It's 2024 and their main competitors are 5/7 now. A seriously behind the curve brand.
@jaz5256 ай бұрын
I agree, but could be worse (VW)
@UhOhUmm6 ай бұрын
@@jaz525 VW has 5 year warranty in many markets and they also offer it for a very small additional fee.
@Litdaze926 ай бұрын
> Looks at Mercedes with 3 Years and BMW with 2 Years
@patrickjr116 ай бұрын
@@Litdaze92 agreed. Legacy needs to take a long look at their overall offering.
@GruffSillyGoat6 ай бұрын
It say's a lot about Ford's confidence in the car or their future plans to support it. Most regions state the battery must be covered by at least a 7 year warranty, but for Ford not to extend this to the rest of the car's powertrain (or at least offer more than 3 years) is a little odd given the rest of the market's approach and the known reliability of electric motors over ICE car engines. I wonder if they're trying to keep the dealerships happy so they can sell expensive additional warranty products or keep their lucrative post manufacturer warranty high parts charges going.
@Ishimuro6 ай бұрын
The only adequate Reaction to piano "Buttons" xD
@FarnhamTV6 ай бұрын
Out of date before it goes on sale. Come on ford, look at what the Koreans and Chinese are doing in the EV sector.
@BrownDracula6 ай бұрын
Please elaborate
@magnusbae6 ай бұрын
Ford is doing something, this is just … actually I don’t know what this is. But apparently they have their own “Skunk Works” building what is supposed to become the basis for a cheaper and more competitive EV, or maybe even an EV platform. Looking forward to that. In the meantime, this is here to ruin the great impression left by the previous Explorer.
@aoh49056 ай бұрын
@@BrownDracula How do you need someone to elaborate this...
@BrownDracula6 ай бұрын
@aoh4905 need or want? Because i'm interested in their personal take maybe? Because I'm not an expert in foreign EVs? Why are you geh?
@thesilverfox1356 ай бұрын
Jack, it’s so refreshing to see a car review that tells it as it is. Car manufacturers are very powerful companies and they will not be happy with your review but the paying public will be. I think you’re the most honest car reviewer out there in KZbin land today. Keep your reviews coming 👍
@marek99306 ай бұрын
Finally a negetive review from FCS! I almost started to think all EVs are awesome. Thanks for the honesty, much appreciated.
@jezza65756 ай бұрын
They are pretty negative on Teslas…the best EV’s on the road!😂
@stefanweilhartner44156 ай бұрын
@@jezza6575 best EVs from a fanboy perspective.
@ristekostadinov28206 ай бұрын
I mean the VW ID cars aren't necessary good in terms of software/buttons, also for people's car they could've used more affordable LFP batteries rather than Li-ion.
@gormauslander6 ай бұрын
@jezza6575 there's no such thing as "the best EV". There is only what's best for your situation. If you want range for $, Tesla is best. If you want to be able to leave your car when it loses power, not so much.
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck6 ай бұрын
@@gormauslander EVer hear of “door latch?” Thought not💙
@DeLorean46 ай бұрын
As someone in the Eastern half of Canada, it's nice to have a Fully Charged event in my country that's just as far away as the British ones :P I'm stunned Ford went back to silly capacitive touch/slide controls on the interior. They were all over the place on Lincoln products around 2010 and they all got walked back by around 2015 because customers hated them.
@jonathancaplan44446 ай бұрын
Once again perfect honesty. That's why I watch you guys.
@StevePowell6 ай бұрын
So good to see Jack being completely frank with this review. Really refreshing. I suspect with a massive price drop, 'fine' will become 'quite good'. And surely with ZEV we will see some healthy price reductions or special offers later in the year.
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck6 ай бұрын
@@StevePowell Lower price? Not likely. VW loses money selling it to Ford. Ford just loses money…..
@b-ri28056 ай бұрын
I almost put a deposit down for an Explorer, ended up getting an EV6 which I really like. Think I made the right choice!
@blackfoxstudioX6 ай бұрын
KIA and especially Hyundai are really killing with their cars! 🔥🔥
@FieryToast16 ай бұрын
You 100% did
@alfrredd6 ай бұрын
Absolutely, stay away from MEB cars!!!
@teamnotleafy68876 ай бұрын
You got more boot space as well as more style.
@adwol486 ай бұрын
Found the EV6 too compact inside personally, went for a Mach E in the end after also contemplating the explorer.
@ZarlanTheGreen6 ай бұрын
So just twenty second in, and you know all you need to know, to conclude that you absolutely should never even *_think,_* about getting this car.
@JKrepJC6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the honesty! Good review! Slovenia is beautiful!
@mikeymike17926 ай бұрын
It's just not good enough, is it? Ford clearly weren't committed to this car, and it shows. They really need to nail the Puma now.
@xiaoka6 ай бұрын
They outsourced to the wrong partner.
@paulwincott29876 ай бұрын
Thanks Jack for telling me its crap, I saw one at a car show last month and thought it looked pretty good, but thanks to your honest review I now know its crap and I thank you for that.
@turboclown6 ай бұрын
Just the best presenter in all of car KZbin!
@supamario30556 ай бұрын
Jack: "Does it keep up with the best in its class? Not for me" Ford: < OOF! >
@vdubster6 ай бұрын
Best body kit for a VW ever
@joshuaknight17486 ай бұрын
A friend has an ID4 and he told me recently that the HVAC controls aren't backlit - so you cant see them at night. How does that get sign-off?
@s1m0nc6 ай бұрын
Yep, correct. Volume up and down buttons are LEFT and RIGHT. Skip back and forth buttons are UP and DOWN. Meetings were had. People were paid. Unbelievable.
@MaticTheProto6 ай бұрын
Good question. Mercedes evs either have a switch for them or have them constantly on screen, visible under all conditions
@MaticTheProto6 ай бұрын
@@s1m0ncwait… really? Oh god
@ianjordan81466 ай бұрын
The latest id4 with the bigger screen has backlit buttons now
@s1m0nc6 ай бұрын
@@ianjordan8146 does it still ask you 'what would you like me to do?' every 4.3 minutes despite no one even speaking?
@roguebullet42206 ай бұрын
Jack, that was the most English way of saying "It's another bag-o-shite from Ford" 😅
@andymaxey73776 ай бұрын
Oh Jack! Windows Vista.....I laughed and fell off my chair! What a waste of a great opportunity and never worth £55k in a million years.
@dubzfry6 ай бұрын
Honestly I'm glad someone mentioned so many EV's infotainment systems looking like a ported windows vista. Also £5k more than a model 3 long range which seems like madness
@michaelhansen23096 ай бұрын
To quote Silicon Valley: "It's Apple Maps bad"
@andiewelham11916 ай бұрын
It’s ok in only a few weeks you can pick a used one up for £10k
@LordWalsallian6 ай бұрын
They shouldn’t have gotten rid of the Fiesta.
@PyramidHead766 ай бұрын
No doubt Ford will stick that badge on a giant 4x4 some time in the 2030s, judging by the random things they've done with the Mustang, Explorer & Capri names...
@charlieverity54055 ай бұрын
Great work as ever. This channel's often better than TV...
@keithbarrett98826 ай бұрын
Great review, it's straight forward . Ford was very late with the last Mondeo, and this car and are completely behind the curve... And the review covers things well
@Randrew186 ай бұрын
I have a Renault Megane ETech and I love it, has proper buttons for things and feels really comfortable to drive. Nice quality materials used and looks way better.
@briansrensen66036 ай бұрын
I tested it last year, and was really liking it. The only thing I felt that they should have done was to do an estate version. The trunk is quite small because of the short rear overhang (which is actually kind of nice), but adding an estate with maybe 20-30 cm more overhang and a big trunk would have made it almost perfect for me.
@mikadavies6606 ай бұрын
Love the styling, but the most important thing here is the 22% target. Later in the year, these will be offered on lease deals that are bargains. Only today (9th July) VW iD4 is on lease offer for around £350/mth.
@timscott30276 ай бұрын
Yeah I was thinking that, they're going to have to really price these down to get the sales they need to get.
@dickdolby82716 ай бұрын
Yeah, I can see these going down in price as the year-end approaches.
@philiptaylor79026 ай бұрын
The phrase "box ticking exercise" comes to mind.
@danielstefanovic26046 ай бұрын
The enyaq is still the best meb ev tbf
@brianiswrong6 ай бұрын
Our electric 2024 kona (65kw battery) can do 4.4miles per kilowatt to our aldi , and 7.7miles per kilowatt on the drive home. Maybe that was the test route ford used for its " over 600k/m range)😊
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck6 ай бұрын
600k downhill from Zermatt...
@RichardBriggs-t2s6 ай бұрын
1:30 I aged 2 years while that corner was taken :)
@Thisoldhiker6 ай бұрын
Ford benchmarked a 150K mile Subaru Outback for the cornering.
@MarceldeJong6 ай бұрын
11:19 really SCRAPING the bottom there with the compliment sandwich.
@jamesengland74616 ай бұрын
That's cold! 😂
@johnminshall2426 ай бұрын
Wow - brutally honest review, and shame… I expected better of this Explorer! Still like it, but it’s lost a few places now on the shortlist.
@tomlong51306 ай бұрын
Really good sum-up!
@francisbatista35336 ай бұрын
Why do they call it Explorer when it's smaller than an Escape?
@joshuaknight17486 ай бұрын
Same reason the next one is called the Capri - and will no doubt be a crossover: No respect for brand heritage.
@PyramidHead766 ай бұрын
Also worth mentioning that the Explorer is still an entirely different car for the US market, this thing is specifically built for Europe :(
@ItalianRain26 ай бұрын
Just look at the EV "mustang" 🙄
@Whatastic6 ай бұрын
Ford CEO Jim Farley might need to reevaluate his marketing team, they are leading him astray😅
@simonpannett88106 ай бұрын
£40k for a family car????? Surely that is £10k too much???
@MaticTheProto6 ай бұрын
The smart now starts at 32.000€ in Germany. Has 3 points for child seats. Not bad
@simonpannett88106 ай бұрын
@@MaticTheProto MG5 estate car starts at just over £31k??
@SergejGrabun6 ай бұрын
I do like all the negative comments by Jack. They are all on point. As for the volume slidy bar thingy - I have it in Enyaq and I used it maybe 5 times in last 3 years? Completely not bothered by it. However, the steering wheel buttons on ID4 did annoy me A LOT.
@OriginalNiceButOdd4 ай бұрын
I was thinking about buying one, thanks fella you just saved me £54k👍
@winfriedtheis57676 ай бұрын
Jack, I hope the next car you get to drive will be something genuine exciting, like say the R5 Alpine?!?
@Molishious6 ай бұрын
3.1 miles/kwh is not good for moderate driving. That would be good if you were driving 70 mph consistently.
@ratbert16 ай бұрын
Damned by feint praise.
@DuesenbergJ6 ай бұрын
So basically a slightly smaller and better looking ID.4. Not to shabby
@degerrit6 ай бұрын
Exactly. I had literally hoped here for an ID4 without all the annoyances in the various controls... but, alas, I'm really disappointed now. Makes no sense to me why Ford would do that. I guess I need to look at the Renault Scenic now, or a Hyundai Kona (but it doesn't charge quite as fast IIRC).
@oldad736 ай бұрын
Loved the way you slipped into a long blonde wig for the drone driving shots!😁
@Damadchef6 ай бұрын
I was ready with my comment "oh look it's another this is the best car I've ever driven" video 😂 I was getting tired of those .... It's great to see you be critical of a car 👏👏😁
@jasonallatt54106 ай бұрын
Great review!
@MePeterNicholls6 ай бұрын
Jack: I’m a polestar 2 LRDM perf owner now. This looks ok. I wouldn’t swap tho. Getting some great economy with the Polestar 2 these last few days. 23kwh/100 miles. 4.3 miles per kWh. 7.4p a mile (Tesla supercharger, still no home charger.)
@nannyoggsally6 ай бұрын
Windows Vista 😂 Savage ❤😅
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck6 ай бұрын
@@nannyoggsally Cruel. But fair…
@ewadge6 ай бұрын
I went to see it at my local Fire dealership. I was quite impressed and liked it more than the ID4 but the sliding volume controls didn’t work well at all and the whole haptic button thing was very annoying. I had higher hopes for it.
@brunomadeira84326 ай бұрын
To be fair I rarely open the rear windows. The lights I could live with, it just goes auto and stays there. The steering wheel buttons do suck hard as do the slides. And I say that from experience using an ID.3. The slides are even worse that the buttons.
@HoltAlex6 ай бұрын
This kind of thing is infuriating because while manufacturers will eventually learn from this crap and stop saving pennies by not giving us proper buttons, cars with these kind of issues will be all that's available in the used market for us plebs in a few years time. Decisions like this set back mass market EV adoption by a decade or more.
@vulpixelful5 ай бұрын
Can't you just push the steering wheel buttons in the ID.3? I can on the ID.4 and it's fine, I never need to slide along them
@brunomadeira84325 ай бұрын
@@vulpixelful I'm kind of fine with the ID.3 steering wheel buttons. What I find a bit displeasing are those slides below the main screen where you control the AC:
@LuddeVinje6 ай бұрын
The MEB platform is already a bit out-dated due to advancements elsewhere, you simply can't expect to compete with a new car on the MEB platform.
@4literv66 ай бұрын
Well said! First meb platform evs entered production in early 2019&here in mid 2024 they haven't really don't ANYTHING to improve it!
@MaticTheProto6 ай бұрын
@@4literv6they have much more efficient engines tho
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck6 ай бұрын
@@LuddeVinje VW execs agree. Then cancelled a new platform! What The non-Frunk?
@redyheady56 ай бұрын
My home Slovenia FTW!!!
@Madonsteamrailways6 ай бұрын
The Ford Explorer is one of the few that I might have gone for if I hadn’t decided that I needed a small camper rather than a car!!
@urbanstrencan6 ай бұрын
Too bad that Ford didn't bring its great handling to the VW MEB platform, handling is one thing that Ford is well known for. Would love to see more OFFROAD-oriented versions of Explorer in the future. Jack glad that you had a chance to experience our beautiful Slovenian countryside :)
@pauladams5673Ай бұрын
I have an ID car and I don't have any issue with the haptic "buttons", in fact I quite like them. The window switch design means 50% of switches didn't have to be made. Some of us really appreciate the attention of Circular Economy thinking. Motoring Journalists are a very conservative bunch and don't consider enough why automotive companies design the way they do.
@WayApp6 ай бұрын
Unveiling the future of SUVs with cutting-edge technology and unmatched versatility!
@mikemellor7596 ай бұрын
Clear advice - thanks
@JonathanCooperGB6 ай бұрын
You also get the b-pillar keypad on the Mach-E, which is a brilliant EV if you ignore the performance horse-related naming
@jamesengland74616 ай бұрын
Why isn't it allowed in Europe?
@JonathanCooperGB6 ай бұрын
@@jamesengland7461 it is, I even use it to open the front boot!
@MaticTheProto6 ай бұрын
@@jamesengland7461likely because its a security issue
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck6 ай бұрын
@@jamesengland7461 It’s too Chinese 🦈
@Lord.Kiltridge6 ай бұрын
The odds that our next car will be electric are very high. But the odds that it will be a North American brand or an SUV are fantastically low. I\ll tell you though, that 600km range is interesting.
@Madonsteamrailways6 ай бұрын
This is the first time I’ve seen the steering wheel from an Austin Allegro on a Ford!! A nice round wheel gives a much nicer feel to the steering.
@AnnihilatedBrainsample6 ай бұрын
I don't know what's the problem with the touch controls. I am using a smartphone with touch controls. I actually prefer the touch controls on the VW. So much easier to clean for example. And the haptics make it very clear if you "pressed" a "button".
@vulpixelful5 ай бұрын
Same here, I don't see the issue
@stevenkeller30476 ай бұрын
I love Jack's reviews. He does such a good and honest job. Can't get this Explorer here in the States, but don't think I'd buy it.
@philcrockford55346 ай бұрын
My first car, a 1980 Mk 3 Escort, was Arctic Blue. It's been around a while!
@roadbikeman5 ай бұрын
Love the review. I won't be getting one, was about to furiously hit ORDER NOW on the work portal
@rmfberry2616 ай бұрын
idk why the comments are turned off on the yangwang video but those are some really cool machines.
@warmonger25006 ай бұрын
Why do car manufacturers think that modern cars “need” to change their interior for a “modern audience”???
@laloajuria46786 ай бұрын
excellent intro. all you need to know.
@LeZimen6 ай бұрын
Great and honest review as always, so kudos to you Jack. I have to say, I'm really disappointed with this car and Ford. Was so close to actually ordering one, but now I'm not that sure. Really soft handling and all of the features from VW ID's that I've always hated? No way. Over the years I've looked at Ford and VW as two great competitors, with quite the similar lineup of cars, but where as VW always was the greatest "package" Ford always triumphed on actual handling and look/feel from their cars. That's why I always preferred the Mondeo over the Passat and the Focus over the Golf, even though the Passat and Golf was the most sensible purchase. Now it seems that Ford has lost their identity with this car, and I'm suddenly hoping that the Kia EV3 gets some more praise, because that might just be a car I'll prefer over the Explorer..
@tomk.98036 ай бұрын
I thought Grealish would be watching football from home, nice gig you have here Jack!
@shuashua9586 ай бұрын
Preach, my pedantic brother! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@JustWasted3HoursHere6 ай бұрын
Considering the huge cost in developing electric vehicles I can see a lot more of these partnerships happening now and in the future. Hopefully this will help keep costs down and innovation up.
@ChromeFlakes6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 such a funny intro, goddam haptic buttons!
@eb1888.6 ай бұрын
Good review. Positives and negatives. Hooray.
@pualos776 ай бұрын
Bringing curtains back ❤
@vulpixelful5 ай бұрын
In the ID.4 you can press the capacitive steering wheel buttons as well, and they thunk under your finger. I never slide them. If you can't do that in the Explorer that is bad, but I don't get the overreaction about the steering wheel buttons in the VW cars.
@simondehaas87846 ай бұрын
The steering wheel haptics work very well when you are used to them. They really don't warrant this level of criticism. It has always been a bigger concern of reviewers who aren't used to it than of actual owners. Sure, it could be argued there is little benefit of something new that you have to get used to - but they do give more functions than the same number of buttons. I like them.
@fluxfieldshow6 ай бұрын
It's just worse for negligible savings on Ford's part. It's easier to feel your way around buttons than flat, shiny, bumpy things.
@Dqtube6 ай бұрын
12:59 Fun fact, the facelifted IONIQ 5 has its price list for the Netherlands and the 84kWh version starts at €47k (including tax and fees), which is around £40k.
@jurepecar90926 ай бұрын
Hey, welcome to Slovenia :)
@benholroyd52216 ай бұрын
What is going on with Ford? they call a new suv the puma, when the original wasn't they call a new suv the explorer when the original wasn't (i say suv, its the least suv of these 3, even though the original was the most suv) they call a new suv the kuga which is a homophone for a car that wasn't. they have no small cars they don't even apparently have their own mid sized ev platform
@jockmoron6 ай бұрын
"Lacking dynamism" - do most folk care that much? Is it comfortable, quiet and relaxing? Does it have a high safety rating? 3.1 miles/kWh isn't particularly efficient though about average, I suppose. It does though seem already a bit "outdated" and not as good value as some other options.
@DeviceNull6 ай бұрын
I love the central button on the mach e - why not copy that one?
@80y3r96 ай бұрын
It's a good point, got your own switches 😬
@stianreppe62786 ай бұрын
In Norway theres 5 years warrenty, and the premium AWD costs 36500 pounds
@rinnin6 ай бұрын
Great Honest review.
@Navoii.6 ай бұрын
As of now, I'm fine with haptic buttons, they're a little finicky, but my hands aren't that big either. THE ONE BUTTON I want the LEAST to be haptic is the hazard lights And of course the gear. It better be a lever or something.
@greyareaRK16 ай бұрын
Looks like they phoned this one in, though I like the simple external design.
@tomp49446 ай бұрын
After seeing the VW ID4 at a dealership, and then the price on the Buzz, I figured VW needed a few years to either figure it out. I don't see why, since they have a platform they can stack things on, why they aren't working very hard and loudly on a VW Bug convertible. Why make more big boxes?
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck6 ай бұрын
EVery Body at VW HATES the Beetle!
@andyroid73396 ай бұрын
Re: the Lane assist annoyance -my EV6 does the same, plus the anti sway assist too. Isn't this now legislated?
@theunknownunknowns2566 ай бұрын
Fullycharged can you add night illumination of charge port and flush door handles please. Where relevant of course. Cheers.
@MrGMawson24386 ай бұрын
Cheers mate and team
@Twisterpins16494 ай бұрын
I've just picked one if these up today I am I trade plate driver and I'm getting 4.1 per kwh and I did 140 miles in it mostly on motorway doing 73mph
@adwol486 ай бұрын
supposedly the Capri relaunches tomorrow on the 10/7/24 hopefully thats more of the riving experience ford drivers are use to. Doubt it though as its appears to just be a fast back version of the explorer
@strayobject6 ай бұрын
Nice to see a critical review 😊
@simonbaxter80016 ай бұрын
It's going to take a lot of improvement in Ford offerings to replace my previous Ford's (Focus, Kuga) and current Ford Edge (was £38K fully spec'd from new, can tow 2000Kg, max train weight 4550Kg, range over 480 miles, big, spacious, handles like a small car), especially when it comes to 'work load' (towing) and price! Never thought that the automotive industry would be making so many steps backward in terms of quality and practicality whilst cost continue to spiral out of the reach of the 'average' person. £39K to £55K for a car that has size, features and range that a £20K-£35K ICE car once did (this is smaller than the Kuga or Puma) is sadly one reason I'll be keeping an ICE until my driving days are over (max 20 years!).
@simono49916 ай бұрын
I am equally underwhelmed by Ford failing to correct all VW's crimes against ergonomics with this car.
@2JiP86 ай бұрын
Very disappointed with the price (just like all the IDs), but still think the Explorer and Capri are way better than the ID4 and ID5.
@dcvariousvids80826 ай бұрын
If you like this but want a larger boot & rounded corners, the bloated Capri is round the next bend. Nearly the same car and price; and like the Explorer, they both have Ford interiors plus bodywork and VW underpinnings.
@terrancel17866 ай бұрын
It's nice not bad at all.
@billyray3236 ай бұрын
Are there any Electric Campervans out there that you might show us ?
@simonbaxter80016 ай бұрын
Would be nice to see some reviews of 'affordable' EV's that can tow a 1800+Kg caravan over 200 miles too. The leisure/touring industry is huge, yet there seems to be an impending dead end to the massive sector unless EV manufacturers start offering practical, affordable 'workhorses' ... soon!
@nas4apps4 ай бұрын
What is good: it does look sharp, way better than the VW product (although I like the ID3 too), the Skoda and ID4 seem somewhat bulkier (of course, they are roomier). But this does have enough space. And turning - rwd allows for a super tight 180. Color: cool! And interior, I like it! So, harsh, really - all EVs driving like you do, do not cut wltp. But the wltp compares well, and the long range rwd goes further than any other for this price - without looking super aero, it is a (compact) SUV (not the US explorer, but that doesn't fit European cities). I'd lease one. Currrent state: short lease Corsa-e. Long lease - might get the same price .... wondering.
@bluedew6 ай бұрын
Just wondering.. what watch are you wearing? It’s a very tasteful piece.
@steeveeleevee64846 ай бұрын
22% of sales must be BEV, not a chance, they'll have to give them away to meet that target
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck6 ай бұрын
Unlikely that many can be produced - VW is falling waay behind its (downward) revised goals...