The NEW Goldwing has been announced! Except...it's not from Honda. Is this the Goldwing KILLER?

[@GoldwingDocs]

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[@ayedee6681]

Hope it’s half the price with a 10 year unlimited warranty.

[@guitardzan5641]

Manufactured with the support of the Chinese Communist Party......It's designed with the stolen technology of the West. Are you ready to support that? Against the interests of your own country?

[@paseandoconhonda]

The owner of a Goldwing is not only the owner of a motorcycle, the Goldwing is a legend, it is recognition, it is a personality, it is a career, it is trust, it is 50 years of evolution. All this cannot be supplanted by a nice screen and a bigger engine.

[@Dave-sw2dm]

LOL!

[@malcolmwhite6588]

And have a look at it I know a Goldwing is not a sport bike but this thing looks like it will lean about 2° in either direction before scraping out😂

[@Visionery1]

I wonder what was said 50 years ago when the GW arrived on the scene. ;)

[@thagingerninjer5391]

@@Visionery1it instantly revolutionized motorcycling. When the gold wing came out, nobody said it was Chinese crap. Everyone was immediately blown away with the build quality and specs, like with any Japanese motorcycle manufacturer.

[@soujrnr]

@@thagingerninjer5391 - EXACTLY... It wasn't CHINESE crap. The Japanese are known for incredible quality. The Chinese are known for cheap s**t, slave labor, and inferiority across the board.

[@theduffman441]

A Gold Wing is more than a collection of parts. Any company can copy the parts and put it together. But that doesn't mean that the parts are functionally identical or made to the same height standards. Nor does it mean that the company will stand behind their product, and fix any issues that may arise. Just because you copy a product and you make improvements on that "copy" doesn't mean that it is superior than the original.

[@4570govt8]

Exactly. 👍👍

[@totzinfo]

GWM Suo S2000 has no similar or identical parts to Honda Gold Wing, GWM have patented of all their parts, they look identical but there is no copycat parts

[@totzinfo]

copying is much have bigger chances to become much more superior than original and it is proven to BYD YangWang U8 SUV that looks identical to Land Rover Defender but have so much more specs and features

[@4570govt8]

@@totzinfo nah, there still junk.

[@ROCKGOD.01]

Metallurgy is probably the worst in comparison. However that is cheap China. There is non cheap, on the verge of competing on the higher levels of production vehicles be it cars or bikes. The fact that they do copy worldwide brands flagship models should be addressed legally I'd think?

[@nathanjames4242]

I have lived in Iraq for the last 8 years and there are Great Wall trucks everywhere. They are absolute crap. I wouldn't touch that thing with a 100 foot pole.

[@clay1883]

I can't wait to see these Chi-Coms broke down on the side of the road. Where would you take it for parts/repair?

[@JerryWDaviscom]

There's a reason it's called "Cheap Chinese junk". All glitz and sparkle, but cheap engineering where they can hide it.

[@jacklugejr8568]

NO! I would not consider.

[@stephennelson3950]

Chinese are 110% flawless at making products LOOK BETTER than those they imitate, but are totally HORRIBLE at reliability, dependability, integrity AND customer service. Chinese are a global JOKE for standing behind ANYTHING they build because they know better than anyone else what crap they produce!

[@uhtred7860]

Yeah they sell them here in NZ, the fleet vehicle rental company i work for even bought some, they lasted about 6 months before they were resold. Absolute garbage, they are very cheaply made with ill fitting super plasticky interiors that started deteriorating after a month of use. Engines are noisy and rough, transmissions are harsh, they are terrible vehicles.

[@lonniecross4698]

We’d all be better off buying less chicom stuff.

[@rhettbenton]

I agree. Why support a regime that wants the Death of our Civilization?

[@Fallen608]

This. Hyping up chicom garbage is not a good look either.

[@clay1883]

I really make an effort, but we are overwhelmed with China crap. On many things, just no other choice except do without. Our Politicians could have done much better for decades. They made lots of money.

[@andersson.l.e]

Absolutely essential.

[@TattooedHoodlum]

That leaves Harley out

[@davehemmerly8496]

What could go wrong with a Chinese 8 cylinder quad cam?

[@GordonMilliord]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@sandy5548]

EVERYTHING

[@sbalak]

Let me count the ways LOL!

[@allanweseman5433]

Chinese KTM 890 found ways to make camshafts out of peanut butter and look at how they stand to fail to live up to their warranty requirements. I would wait a decade and let others test the water on their reliability. China is very careless about quality control in things like automotive suspension parts.

[@mcontreras1340]

Broken legs, 🤔 maybe😂😂😂

[@muzic3966]

No thanks. I'm not interested in their cars or motorcycles. And if they stole Honda IP to make this bike, then it shouldn't be allowed in any country that obeys intellectual property laws.

[@disconductorder]

I want that engine for go Kart project

[@walterwickwire270]

I’ve been a Golding rider for many many yrs. There is no way I would buy this new replica of one of the nice motorcycles ever to be put on the street

[@NVArt001]

@@disconductorder Why? You can get better numbers with less mass & weight.

[@disconductorder]

@@NVArt001 the sound makes it worth it, flat V8's have that old school f1 sound

[@garethbarlow5278]

As an Australian I’m very used to American corporations stealing our IP. Your entire patent and copyright systems are corrupt and broken. It was American courts who allowed Apple to patent a rectangle with rounded corners, your courts that allowed a photographer to “own” any image photographed against a black background. Used by everyone for decades but your courts recognised his “rights”. Can’t blame the Chinese from giving Western corporations a bit of karma. On a related note GWM cars and trucks are excellent and very popular down under. Chinese companies bother us much less than the decades we spent enduring overpriced under-featured crap from GM and Ford. Great Wall (GWM) may well have reverse engineered this bike. But the next one will be all theirs, just as happened with their cars.

[@TheWanderingGeezer]

I'll stick with a Goldwing.

[@boomerhgt]

Definitely

[@victorrios6838]

That is what people said about Indian in 1952.

[@walterkersting9922]

Known quantity compared to china

[@ttp_007]

Just another POS rip-off... I wish I to not buy anything from China, we are feeding the beast that will eat us later.

[@totzinfo]

SOUO S2000 has more fuel efficiency (despite larger engines), with 10 years or 1 Million kilometers warranty, much more sophisticated Electronics, High Technology, Specs and Features than Honda Gold Wing

[@marvinperryii5159]

I still own a GL1500. I would be reluctant to buy an unproven Chinese product that is also lacking the dealer support network of Honda.

[@larryjohns8823]

Same with any repair parts! I guess Temu can will be your go to place😅

[@tjinytjiny6615]

There is no way I’d ever purchase, ride a Chinese Motorcycle.. in typical Chinese Fashion, it’s a knock off of the Goldwing.

[@FrankBonessa]

A thinking man for sure. CCP junk as usual. Took 'em 1500 years to build the wall. yeah.....

[@totzinfo]

there is no single components of GWM S2000 identical to Honda Goldwing

[@tjinytjiny6615]

@@totzinfo 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️ You must work for China, or need glasses. I’ll bet you’d say the same about Chinese Destroyers which incredibly are identical to USN Destroyers..

[@anonimous2451]

@@totzinfo Hence the exact reason it's CRAP.

[@totzinfo]

how come it's a knock off from Honda Goldwing when it is a Flat 8 cylinder while Goldwing is only Flat 6, Dual overhead Camshaft while Goldwing is only Single overhead Camshaft, 2,000 c.c. engine size capacity wile Goldwing is only 1800 c.c. engine size capacity, 12 dual clutch gears transmission while Goldwing is only 8 dual clutch gears and many more features not found in Honda Goldwing

[@1020donny]

Remember the old bumper sticker, "Buy American, the Job You Save May Be Your Own"

[@Lateralas]

That doesn't help sell Goldwings either.

[@mikeporro3311]

They stopped making goldwings in Ohio in 2009 I believe.

[@fredmoss-yf2jc]

Right. Buy American. Harley or Indian.

[@mikeporro3311]

@@fredmoss-yf2jc LOL! u think those are American? the parts are sourced from all over the world. Yes, even China.

[@anonimous2451]

@@fredmoss-yf2jc Not f'kn Harley, their QA has been shipped off to never never land. Indian is a totally different story.

[@mauriciorodriguez2974]

So don’t call it a goldwing that’s false advertisement

[@bob521i]

They don't!

[@mauriciorodriguez2974]

@@bob521i but they did listen to the beginning of the video

[@alansiedsma2165]

That's right. It's not a gold wing.

[@andykober2283]

They have a long way to go to match service facilities offered by Honda and by independent motorcycle mechanics. No thank you.

[@totzinfo]

GWM has already large network of dealership globally, because they are not making only motorcycles but also EV cars, SUVs, and heavy construction and mining equipments

[@quotetheraven1969ify]

Wrong, I own a 97 1500 SE.. I love in central Missouri and not 1 fucking dealer within 200 mile raidius will even change the fucking oil on it. They only have support for their newer $ 30,000 dollar bikes...

[@quotetheraven1969ify]

​@totzinfo and no I would never own any golding newer than a 2000.. newer Goldwing bikes are fucking junk

[@joeryerson9295]

Every dealership I've called looking for service wouldn't work on anything more than 10 years old unless it was just tires. Independent shops that's a different story.

[@andykober2283]

Comparing apples to oranges. Just like old cars, you have to find an independent motorcycle mechanics willing to work on old Goldwings if you cannot address a problem. I have a 1999 Aspencade and I found such a business less than 20 minutes from where I live. Honda has dealerships and service facilities across the US for newer generation motorcycles, which was the point of my comment. Where is one for this bike?

[@brokenmechanic]

Unfortunately in Australia we have Great wall. I am a mechanic so to say i will NEVER buy a vehicle built by GW .. They are terrible complete with Extremely poor materials used in the manufacture of them. dont get me wrong they come with all the bells and whistles but thats it. the longest we had to wait for an engine mount a consumable part is 3 months. not weeks months. dont do it

[@esesrides1255]

Still waiting for Harley parts I ordered 4months ago. Seems to be the norm these days

[@PatrickJWenzel]

@@esesrides1255 They’re probably coming from Asia as well

[@chrisvader2630]

That's because Harleys parts are cast form steel melted inside active volcano, and forged with bare hands. Then they place parts on the gravestone of Arthur Davidson and waiting for full moon so Arthur can bless those parts with his spirit. That's takes time

[@PatrickJWenzel]

@@chrisvader2630 And don’t forget, it’s all done under the Global Trade Support of Thailand, Brazil, China and Taiwan manufacturing and sealed with nice hefty made in America (but it’s mostly not) price tag. God bless HD.

[@michaelmclarney1994]

Thanks for the heads up, I'm sure the will get to the UK at some point but I wouldn't trust something this complex to anyone but Honda! It would be interesting to find out how much though.

[@jamescostello6529]

I try to avoid Chinese manufacturing and products so this is a non-starter.

[@MrZipperhead16]

Gold Wing has always had one thing going for it that made it the touring bike to have. Reliability. A 30 year old GL1500 will take you across the country with one carb working and everyone knows it because it's been done. Not sure I want to be stuck in a corn field in Iowa waiting for Hong Kong Phooey to come and fix my bike. I'll wait but if it turns out to be a better bike than the Honda, that's on them.

[@alswearingen323]

My 30-year-old Aspi took 70-year-old me from Heidelberg, Germany to Kyiv, Ukraine last March. 2000 km, some of the worst roads you will see, many traffic control posts, soldiers, etc. Never faltered, and still drew admiring smiles.

[@jimrobinson6829]

I go out of my way to avoid crappy Chinese tools and appliances. There is no way on earth i would buy a Chinese bike. Not ever!

[@gilsoutherland3562]

as a 2018 dct tour glowing owner I would NOT consider buying this bike.BUT I do think that honda should use an all digital dash and maybe add some safety features such as blind spot monitoring

[@sll-tt6bj]

@@gilsoutherland3562 If you need-blind spot monitoring you shouldn't be on a bike

[@vincenttarquini4235]

Very simple, no way, no how!

[@johnoconnor5581]

I’m retired and enjoy restoring older Honda motorcycles from the 60’s, 70’s, and 80’s. I bought my first Honda in 1968 and have owned 35 Hondas since then. Honda is known for great design and great manufacturing that results in quality products. Although I do see more quality products coming out of China than I saw in the past, in general Chinese companies are still known for copying rather than innovating, and for very shoddy quality in manufacturing. I’m guessing 5 years from now I will still be looking for my first sighting of one of these Chinese “Goldwing” bikes on a US road.

[@garthrondeau8198]

Wow… restoring old gold wings, what an amazing hobby. I would love it if you started a KZbin channel and just told us Goldwing stories. You would make a fortune and never have to leave your coach.

[@limyrob1383]

Look at the resale values of Great Wall products. They plummet, and there is a reason for that.

[@Visionery1]

Well, to be fair, the resale value of modern European cars is not exactly something to celebrate either, you lose thousands as you drive off the showroom floor.

[@anonimous2451]

@@Visionery1 Perhaps so, but at least they support their products. And more to the point the people buying them are not exactly worried about the cost. FYI. They buy them for the superior engineering (cough, cough, cough)

[@thomasmallow9310]

I don’t think Honda has anything to worry about! The Chinese are notorious for building things using substandard materials! Their engineering falls way short of the Japanese! I wouldn’t spend money on something that doesn’t have the reliability that Japanese products do!

[@garcjr]

I don't blame you and them calling it an S2000 is even another level of dumb.

[@retiredandroaming]

Not posting that from an iphone, I presume? There is a lot of very high quality stuff coming out of China over the last 10+ years. But I would not knowingly support any company that steals IP so blatantly. Not for me, even if the quality is fantastic.

[@truthiscensored]

@@retiredandroaming It is a difference...An Iphone is a American company that ALREADY have the engineering, design, materials etc. to make the phone and China just mass reproduce it... vs The whole Product engineering, design, concept, quality etc. from start to finish being Chinese... It is a huge difference China simply mass produce products from American companies they not the engineering and development team from Apple and other non-Chinese companies. The issue is with CHINESE COMPANY PRODUCTS

[@retiredandroaming]

@@truthiscensored Actually, Apple only partially designs the iPhone. They provide their UI requirements, styling designs, key component selections, performance expectations, etc, etc to Foxconn and Foxconn does much of the detailed design and the majority of the iPhone range manufacturing in Zhengzhou, China. Foxconn is, of course, the world's biggest contract electronics manufacturer. But my point is that China can and does build a lot of quality items, in addition to the junk they mass produce. It's no longer as easy as saying, "Well it's from China, so it must be junk!" There is context needed now....

[@bob521i]

@@retiredandroaming China builds to the level of quality specified by the purchaser. If you specify cheap, that's what you'll get. If you specify top quality that is also available.

[@SoloPilot6]

It's cute on the showroom floor, but how does it ride? How is the quality control? Operating costs? Parts availability? Don't get too enthused until we find out if this is just more Chinese "Tofu-dregs" . . .

[@michaelhargarten5118]

I'm sure some people would buy them, but without a good dealer network, technicians to work on them, and parts supply, it wouldn't be worth the purchase price no matter if it is less than a Goldwing.

[@cpuuk]

Yea, that ride back to China for the first oil change is a doozy ;-)

[@velocity7180c]

Hope you are enjoying your flying interest. I have owned my GL 1500 sine 2000. I built my velocity aircraft in 1991. Still enjoy flying this canard aircraft.

[@GoldwingDocs]

Love it, I was just up flying tonight, as a matter of fact!

[@joselalfaro]

Same as others, reliability and service will be the big question that only time or an outstanding execution would tell. Wonder if they did when Honda designed the GL1500 subjected to extreme testing for design validation, and still many issues had to be addressed over time. China has come long way, but great companies take years to build respect, trust and reputation on consumers eyes 👍🏼

[@gordonbrown7489]

I will give it a couple of years to see how it will hold up! But Honda better get its shit together with all the recalls and other little problems they have with there motorcycles. There not what they use to be!!!

[@anonimous2451]

💯💯💯💯 %%%%

[@bill45colt]

there?? where?

[@stevezodiac575]

Mate, please check for typos before posting - it's 'their' and 'they're'.

[@thomasgardner5872]

You don’t think the chi com will have any recalls ?

[@MattsRanger]

​​@@stevezodiac575thier. As my 2nd grade teacher drilled us tots in '82. I before e except after c or names. Not a fun teacher! YT spell check wrong too.

[@TheMassdistortion]

“There is hardly anything in the world that someone cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price alone are that person’s lawful prey. It’s unwise to pay too much, but it’s worse to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money - that is all. When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do. The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot - it can’t be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.” John Ruskin

[@vinylexperience77]

It is always good to have a little competition in the market. Brings down pricing.

[@alp3781]

100%

[@carbonarrow7]

just give your job to another china company.

[@alp3781]

@@carbonarrow7 Tell me, what is not made in China, these days? Even American flags are made there, PLEASE! LOL. You want me to change the world? I am too tiny for that.

[@jmsdeco]

No, even if the bike was fantastic. The company making it has no infrastructure (dealerships, repair shops , parts ) here in the USA. Also, you don't know if it's reliable.

[@wooddawg4868]

No one needs a motorcycle that big, a big bike like that takes away from the feel of a motorcycle.

[@tomg6284]

A China Goldwing, oh Hell No. My Goldwing was made in the USA.

[@patrickbodine1300]

😉👍

[@robertborchert932]

No, no, no, no, nyet, nay, mais non, and hell no.

[@hansgruber3552]

Heck no! No Chicomm junk for me. I know that we import a ton of Chinese made items. Most out of our individual control. But, just like everything else engineered by others, they just copied Japanese greatness. I will continue to buy Honda quality for my riding needs and desires.

[@hht3674]

Exactly! No Chinese copied junk. Boeing airplanes are in trouble because of Chinese junk titanium.

[@TheWombat2012]

Here in Australia GWM has firmly established itself as a serious vehicle maker. We own a top of the line Cannon twin cab 4x4 ute (one of the most popular style of vehicle here Down Under) and to spec up any similar style vehicle from competitors like Ford, Mazda, Nissan, etc, you’ll be looking at paying twice as much. They’re not “cheap Chinese crap” either. The electronics are Bosch, the gearboxes are German ZF 8 speed autos used worldwide in many vehicles, the diffs and transfer cases are Borg Warner, the standard 4x4 tyres it comes fitted with are Coopers, and the list of internationally derived parts goes on. This bike has Brembo brakes and no doubt many other “brand name” parts in it. Remember when people laughed at Japanese bikes and cars and said they’d never amount to anything…?

[@uhtred7860]

The vehicle rental company i work for here in NZ, bought some GW utes last year, and they lasted 6 months, they were the epitome of “cheap Chinese crap”.

[@jfarlandutube]

I would sure like to ride it. I have a kove 450 rally. The build quality is excellent. I expect this new bike will be extremely well built.

[@upcyclegarage7685]

it's all about Kasin Engineering..my 1976 parts list can still be ordered from Honda Japan. in the year 2102 will you be able to order parts for it? how is the build quality?

[@rosarioroberto5823]

Greetings, As always another brilliant detailed video production 🇺🇲🍾🎉🇺🇲 Glad see you back, and keep producing more videos about motorcycles

[@nickreyes4570]

A major thing to consider is parts and service. It would be wise to wait and see how successful that this bike will be.

[@TheKatr2]

Good luck with the parts

[@danh4504]

no,no,no,china built,NO. beyond that,there are bound to be issues and what about updates or recalls? dealer network? NO!

[@robertwhitemoto]

Love the shirt ! Cheers from Texas.

[@nelsonphilip4520]

Ditto on the shirt!

[@alanhassall]

Kawasaki, Yamaha and Suzuki used to be competition to the Goldwing and they all failed to dominate. Perhaps Honda has not remained competitive without competition that isn’t V-twin powered, but I doubt it. The new wing has an alternative front end and it has lost weight. Some don’t appreciate that, but they seem to continue to sell pretty well for such an expensive bike. One wonders what the upper limit of weight is on a motorcycle when suspension and tires are considered. The 8 cylinder will add length that won’t necessarily add to rider and passenger space and will contribute to turning radius. It will be interesting to see, but even if the warranty is 10 years, what good is it if you breakdown in the middle is nowhere and parts aren’t available and there isn’t a dealer within 500 miles?

[@fredtracy3931]

In my opinion, the six cylinder Kawasaki, and Yamaha and Suzuki V4's were better than the GL 1200.

[@alanhassall]

@@fredtracy3931I liked the 1200 and 1300 Ventures. It was pretty cool that the engine was similar to the engine in the Vmax. I was in high school and wasn’t really interested in them and couldn’t begin to afford one. For some reason, it always seemed like the reviews put the Goldwing on top. Perhaps it was due to the advertising in the magazine. I still don’t feel like I could afford a Goldwing even if I wanted one. They are in new car territory for me.

[@fredtracy3931]

@@alanhassall I was 17 when Suzuki released the Cavalcade 1400 in 1985, and I remember the Kawasaki Voyager 1300 being called the Texas moped, on the cover of Cycle World. :)

[@hooftrim4589]

my very first bike I learnt to ride on was an 81 Goldwing every bike I have ever had was a Goldwing . i doubt that this will change for me .. its a good looking bike ..will be interesting to see how it survives. Thanks for sharing

[@Dave-sw2dm]

What this guy is saying about the Chinese is what my Dad said about Japanese products.

[@joeking9933]

bought the 1st Goldwing a blue 1975 and fell in love , have had them all owning a 14 GL1800 Valkyrie now 750 Lbs wet. I am too old to handle another 250+ Lbs and no one makes a better bike than Honda .

[@D16S06]

???'s Quality of all components, for wear, corrosion resistance and electronics ... + all factors such as 'lean-angles', braking, acceleration and stability etc.

[@steven.h0629]

Not for me. My 2008 is going on 17 years old and has signs of lasting three times that or more. Parts are everywhere, maintenance is user friendly except for the air filter, the weight is perfectly matched to my stature, rides like a dream, handles like it's on rails, slow speed stop-to-stop u-turns balance is amazing, resale value is great, I'm not switching for any amount.

[@oldmodeler7747]

Since Every goldwing from 2018 up is self destructing,Honda better watch it's ass from competitors

[@axelwolfe1680]

Only dealings I have had with great wall motors in Australia is on the back of my tow truck

[@letsgofishing24.7]

Long time Goldwing owner here. I’d throw a leg over it.

[@nunya9555]

Same. The Goldwing has slowly lost its touring focus. A 30 year old GL has more luggage capacity than my 20 year old wing. The new ones have even less! And a new one has less fuel capacity than mine. Old ones also have a softer ride than mine. I feel like they peaked 30 years ago. Competition would be good.

[@4loyal]

No, Scott, I will stay with the Goldwing, a well know quantity and intity!!!

[@gadget1473]

I am loyal to Honda since high school in the 1980,s. Honda cars ,motorcycles, lawn mowers. In my opinion nothing is better . My daily bike is a Gl1100 made in 1983 and it runs perfect.

[@leeoflincoln7062]

I’ve seen some excellent Chinese bikes in recent years - high quality, high performance and really well spec’d. I wouldn’t dismiss this out of hand, as many commenters here have done, this could be a very good bike. I look forward to seeing it.

[@oldmodeler7747]

Ditto

[@nunya9555]

Same same

[@hht3674]

high quality, high performance .... hahaha!!

[@william1389]

The world are evolving, and who can resist an engine like that?

[@killer1963daddy]

I bought a Chinese TV.........once

[@nelsonphilip4520]

what were you once able to watch on that Chinese TV?LoL

[@killer1963daddy]

@nelsonphilip4520 not a lot Returned for store credit. Samsung still running 15 yrs later.

[@nelsonphilip4520]

@@killer1963daddy Where were you on Nov. 22nd 1963?

[@michaelurban1937]

I would buy a used Goldwing over buying a Chinese knockoff. Japanese engineering is light years ahead and has 50 years of proven experience and has been building a parts support for replacement or modification to support what they make . I have owned Yamaha,Honda, and Suzuki and Kawasaki motorcycles. And I loved all of them and could not say anything bad about them. Great bikes.

[@clay1883]

Well, I guess if it's cheap enough you could buy two so as to hopefully keep one running. Use the spare to cannibalize parts from. Or maybe put a tow bar on it and take both for a ride. Lots of choices. to me, China means cheap and low quality. You shouldn't even use Gold Wing in the same sentence with China made bike.

[@TheChromeRonin]

Only thing you missed was the sound of that flat 8, it could change a lot of minds 8)

[@jasonmckinney6444]

Reminds me of the Yamaha star venture also

[@knightwing4]

Honda doesn’t have to worry. You have to earn that spot and the Gold Wing has been around longer than that company. I will say this. It looks good. It looks like what I would think a Valkyrie Interstate would look like if it was still around, and it should be, but it won’t take the Gold Wings spot.

[@pmgasman57]

How can it be called a Goldwing if its not from Honda ?

[@Daveinet]

So the dealers have all told me that they can/t sell a $30K+ Goldwing. He sells used ones all day, but no one buys the new ones because they are two expensive. Where he was selling 30 Goldwings per year, he is now selling two or three. So if this bike comes in under $20K and proves to be OK, yes it good be a Goldwing killer. If the Goldwings were made in the USA, possibly not, but my guess is the only Honda loyalty is their reputation for durability. If the Chinese bike proves dependable, one foreign bike over another, who cares?

[@nelsonphilip4520]

My take away on this development that this is actually great news for the luxury touring motorcycle market that Great Wall has invested in this market segment. As Honda did in the 1970s, I figure that G.W. will use their 1st ever motorcycle to build their auto network here in the U.S.

[@GarethWalters-k9i]

When are these coming? where can I get one. I'm excited to hopeful own one.

[@oddball7483]

Cheap but at what costs to run it? With V.A.T. 20% + INS PREMIUM TAX AT 12% (CURRENTLY) ALL THOSE FEATURES CAN BE FOUND IN A STABLE WARM CAR THAT CAN TRAVEL (4) 450 MILE ON A TANK OF FUEL AND 50 MILES ON ELECTRIC ONLY! 🤔ECONOMICS🤔

[@DG-cu1vt]

The bike looks like they fused a Honda Goldwing with a Yamaha Venture. it's nice looking but I'd never buy a bike from China.

[@bothrechisschlegelli7046]

Goldwing owners are, at least in Europe, mostly old men, and I can understand the negative comments that are based on ignorance. I lived in China for a long time and I know what these engineers are capable of. This has led to the fact that if I want good and affordable quality, I only buy from China. The motorcycles that they are already selling in Europe today, for example, are of surprisingly good quality and Chinese engineers learn very quickly. The time for copying is long gone, or not more pronounced than it is for western companies in Europe these days. However, I have my doubts as to whether an even larger and heavier touring machine is needed. Another and probably the biggest problem is the lack of service centers. I compare the situation of Chinese manufacturers to the situation of Korean car manufacturers 50 years ago. It took decades for the service network to be established in Europe. Today, Koreans are among the highest quality manufacturers on the European market. Chinese motorcycles will have a very difficult time over the next 15 years.

[@nelsonphilip4520]

"Mostly old men" or as I feel what you wrote sounds to me; old men who should have had the good sense to know when to hang it up and get out of riding! Furthermore Honda looks foolish to continue to market the Gold Wing to these has-bins!

[@hht3674]

Sorry. China makes copied crap with stolen IP. There couldn't possibly be spyware or malware in the electronics right?

[@CristianHugoEngineer]

Great Wall have been producing and selling trucks and SUVs here un my country a lot, and quality has been improved over the last years. The final product may be as good as the GW at the beggining (first 3 years), but I don´t see it getting older as good as the Honda. Do not expect it to last 30 years trouble free, but if you are looking to have for 3 to 5 years, itps definitely an option.

[@Navigator78]

my humble thoughts: Honda could be more than capable to make a 8 cylinder engine, if they didn't made it there are good technical reasons probably. On the other side, i love the concept of a huge 2000cc 8 cylinder, that would be my dream new Gw in place of that shrinked up 2018 model. Said that, my only concern about hyper touring bikes is reliability, if the bike will be up to my expectations i'll be happy to buy one.

[@nelsonphilip4520]

Disagree on your more cylinders is better viewpoint. Case in point is Kawasaki's history with the Luxo-tourer segment whereas brand-K started out with the 6-cylinder Voyager 13. Then downsize & lighten with the 4-cylinder Voyager 12 model. And finally settling into Kawasaki's longest iteration of the Voyager with a 1700cc V-twin.

[@nunya9555]

​@nelsonphilip4520 . And NONE of the Kawasakis you listed were ever real competition for the Goldwing, so your point is invalid. This Chinese tourer is marketed for the "bigger is better" American buyer. Aimed right at the Goldwing at a time when it has lost its touring roots, with tiny luggage and fuel capacity compared to older Goldwings of the past.

[@nelsonphilip4520]

@@nunya9555Agree! Although I feel it's better said that in spite of Kawasaki's best efforts to compete with the Honda Gold Wing, they failed first with their fuel injected 6 cylinder and then with their simpler, lighter, and more affordable 4 cylinder Voyager 12. So Kawasaki switch targets focusing in on H-D by developing a V-Twin Voyager to compete against the the Steet Glide & Road Glide where they continue to languish.

[@Navigator78]

@@nunya9555 well said my friend

[@Cobaltxj5]

As a Bulgarian where GreatWall made a factory to make their Isuzu copy cars (with actual Isuzu engines) They break the stigma of "Cinese made". Also currentday Volvo is owned and built in China too so why complain so much?

[@goey3795]

I would definitely try it . I would never get rid of my 2018 Goldwing tour dct but there is no reason to buy the the newer goldwing except for the bigger trunk. And the new bike has an updated dash which Honda desperately needs. And many more features I do all my work my self anyway someone has to try it and after this video and doing some research it is not a cheap nock off it is the real thing.

[@jamesmuller4232]

Be good to have a ride and see what its like. Thanks for the video.

[@JJMedusa]

-- Will it be available on Temu or Shein? 😂

[@Visionery1]

Will free shipping also apply? :)

[@fredmoss-yf2jc]

I'm sure shipping would be free. Just up the price by $3995.

[@tonykdunedin]

I would be happy to test it here in New Zealand, I do about 20k km per year on two wheels, and will be looking for my next bike shortly, either another Harley Ultra, an Indian Pursuit or a Gold Wing, haven't decided yet. But I don't think I would be splashing out big money for an unknown bike with no bike brand history, or sales and parts local portal. Don't get me wrong, it ticks every box I want for my next bike, but its got a lot to prove, including reliability and construction/parts quality before I put 2000cc between my legs and twist the throttle hard. Im guessing pricing would have to be 2/3 of the Gold wing to even get me to look at one. So its a wait and see for me

[@thomasburns2138]

I like my Goldwing. Satisfied. Not for me.

[@malone-np3ip]

Nice too see you Scott how's the plane flying going great see you

[@GoldwingDocs]

It's great! Check it out over at www.youtube.com/@CanardBoulevard

[@gphilipc2031]

Unfortunately it's from Red China.

[@MattsRanger]

I hope the aftermarkets get bigger soon! Now I'm salivating over the classic GL's I saw at shows in the 90's. Which as I understand it, are extremely difficult to support these days.

[@philiprousselle2749]

And how is this better than a GW? Lol

[@wdhewson]

I was asked to fix a Taiwanese Scooter.........no parts/dealers in NA.....unsupported junk.

[@markgee9211]

China has really upped their game. They are very capable of building high quality items.

[@uhtred7860]

Unfortunately Great Wall vehicles are not some of the "high quality items".

[@VTX1800MC]

Like to see and feel it for real.

[@MrBrettAIR]

I have a 84 goldwing 1200 Aspen and it's the best all around bike I've had. Would love to see another company release a similar bike. Would make great corporate competition which usually means lower prices and better bikes all around. 🤙🤙Id ride one to see what the hype is about.

[@deltaskyhawk]

Hope it has anti-fall tech ... so heavy!

[@markguthrie6333]

I'm 62 and a Harley Electra Glide man,but I would wait and see... scan the reviews for a couple years for those interested.

[@ArtD2368]

I would never buy that Chinese bike it's probably going to have problems no thanks

[@clay1883]

I'd go way past "probably" and say guaranteed to have problems. Better have some good walking shoes and roadside assistance if a person buys one of these.

[@ianmiller229]

I own a new GWM car. It is very good, beautifully put together, smooth and quiet to drive. Great value for money but I suspect car enthusiasts will continue to buy well known brand vehicles.

[@SmokeyA55]

Winger for LIFE 🦾💯

[@ldubb9621]

The Goldwing is definitely not in trouble!

[@shadetreesurgeon]

I’m excited about it and I think it’s neat! But I’ve never owned (and don’t feel the need to own) a goldwing that’s less than 3 decades old and costs more than a months rent to buy. So maybe if I’m still alive in 30 years and the s2000 makes it that long on the road… THEN I’ll consider one 😂

[@MrBillFletcherr]

I have ridden both. It is not better. It is not even close.

[@paulskeet7993]

The Goldwing is a well established marque, and difficult to argue with the Japanese company’s credit to date, as they’ve been building them for about 20yrs, and have a reputation to uphold. I could be tempted with this ‘version’ but I’d probably only go for it on a PPP purchase arrangement over 2 yrs. These could possibly be considered for a Pan-Am m/cycle hire business……

[@circleofthewolfairsoft7419]

I am brand new to GoldWing but seen them a lot through my time. I am buying a GoldWing because of the rep they have. I bought a Harley because of their long heritage, as why I am buying a GoldWing. They been around toured in every corner of the planet why would I buy Walmart crap, when I can buy a Tiffany for a better price value.

[@vangoodwin7335]

My Goldwings are American made right here in AMERICA and that's as close as I will get to them. Japanese engineering was fine until they moved production out of America. Good Luck You are in my prayers Hoka Hey

[@dennisberg570]

Alternative to a Goldwing Tour ? Hardly . The Goldwing Tour is two wheel Touring Perfection .

[@KimmoJaskari]

Well, they have no plans to sell it outside China as far as I know. It would be interesting to see it actually reviewed by some western outlet just to see what level of quality they can reach vs arguably the best motorcycle manufacturer in the world. Honda is so good that people consider them almost boring... because the quality is so high. And this is coming from a Triumph rider.

[@waynebersch9150]

56k trouble-free miles on my ‘14 F6B. I’m sticking with Honda.

[@Straydogger]

1800 CC's is not enough? My 1500 is plenty of bike for me. And who's going to fix it if there is a problem? Are parts available in the US?

[@milemarkermike7234]

When the new Goldwing went smaller people like me over 6 foot is extremely uncomfortable. The passenger seat comfort has many complaints. I have the 1800 '06. So I'm out buying future Goldwing's. Now I will buy the BMW grand America. This may be a possibility.

[@keithfreeman1133]

The Gw is the proven king, sometimes bigger is not better.