The NEW M1 Macs 8GB vs 16GB - Don't Make a HUGE Mistake!

[@CreatedTech]

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[@dakkoza]

Woah! Thank you so much man! By the way I love you're vids, haven't seen a guy like this in a while! Hope you're gonna explode in terms of fame! 😃🔥

[@berksoaks4340]

"Swapped" from my schooling experience is called "paging out". I've never heard the term "swapped" but "paging out" is what you described.

[@robertsenese3188]

This is amazing. Thank you. I see you have davinci on your computer. Do you use BRAW? I’m curious how 6k braw works on this computer

[@jameslatief1]

Thanks for making this video. It's a real problem for day traders when they run their ThinkorSwim application on MBP for long periods of time and all of a sudden, their SSD storage goes from 60GB free to 0 GB free because of the swap memory situation.

[@gaurabtalukdar7798]

I do my University work in ms-word and PowerPoint and i use chrome with around 7 to 8 tabs(sometimes 10). I do this on daily basis !! So which ram version of M1 MacBook air should i buy 8gb or 16gb varient?? Also should i be worried about heavy ssd swapping with this kind of multitasking.

[@chickenmuffin]

Where is the 17 minute intro, 26 ads, lack of information and shitty comedy I’ve come to expect on tech channels. I’m confused.

[@AnuragGanguly]

AhhLinusTechTipshhh

[@chickenmuffin]

@@AnuragGanguly LOL

[@TacoKicker]

Yeah, where's the nonstop mention of a merch store selling shitty $30 water bottles and $50 underwear?

[@nomadicsoulart]

Hate those idiots.

[@wolf6gc72]

Its just how one starts. Then he gets millions of subs and companies start calling him for ads, he gets greedy opens merch etcetc, lol dont be surprised Linus used to be simpler too 😂

[@AD3Supa]

The whiteboard/paper analogy for RAM and Storage was phenomenal. Also I'm subbing since you seem to actually know what you're talking about when it comes to computers.

[@bmo3778]

dude same. I have never heard that kind of analogy. that was perfect for "non-geeks".

[@niewazneniewazne1890]

@@bmo3778 well the memory management of an operating system deals with memory pages[this is the exact terminology I have often heard as a user]. memory pages being usually 4k blocks(or bigger, usually bigger ones are known as hugepages) of memory, the analogy comes quiet naturally when the term has the word "Page" in it

[@rupertkingsley]

Short, to the point and not relying on benchmarks. Thank you

[@andrewcunningham2782]

Woah a non bloated video that isn’t filled with unnecessary info in 2020. Subscribed!

[@coprographia]

Where?

[@creatine-pf3ip]

Short and concise. It's rare to find quality content in a 4mins video nowadays!

[@SeaJayBelfast]

Dude. Short, direct and interesting videos with few ads like this are so rare and good. Just wanted to let you know it just caused me to subscribe.

[@5YOfficial]

Man your grind is really inspiring, really

[@unberyl]

wtf?

[@CelciuzX]

Just an example from experience using a MBP 13 2019 Base Model with 8GB RAM. As a full stack developer, 8 GB wasn't enough for me a lot of the time. The whole laptop was very laggy at times, to a point it impacts my workflow. I usually have Chrome with >10 tabs, DBeaver, 2 VS Code instances running FE and API projects locally, 1 Docker container, Postman open at once etc. Hope this helps some other developers.

[@joeo_o1805]

Hi, I want to know, for your huge workload what the best laptop you use for the daily driver? Macbook with larger RAM or Windows with high specs?

[@konstantinlevin8651]

@@joeo_o1805 in fact, it depends on which ecosystem you prefer. A 16G Mac can handle this kind of workflow, just like any high spec windows. For me Windows is just a bloatware with all those useless bullshit so I'd prefer a Linux environment or a mac.

[@ningfeed7118]

Thanks this is exactly what I do, I will go for 16gig, because on my window i have 24g ram but it feels like I have 4gig only, lol.

[@MarkAMensah]

Can I say this the best vlog I've ever appreciated on KZbin! No long talk, concise and straight to the point. For once, the KZbin algorithm made a good recommendation for me.

[@DizzyDez613]

THANK you. It was extremely easy to differentiate various model components from other KZbin vids… but none of them ever elaborated on the 8 to 16GB RAM comparisons. I’m finally convinced I don’t need the extra RAM. You just saved me $200-250.

[@Shootingstar1203]

how did it work out for you? do you still find having 8GB RAM sufficient for your use? I dont do any video / photo editing... i just want to buy a mac for everyday use (web browsing, spreadsheet, and very occasional gaming (league of legends), wonder if 8gb RAM is more than enough to handle that.... while lasting 5-6 years

[@DizzyDez613]

@@Shootingstar1203 Yeah, I now have a Mac Mini with 16gb. Lol But if that’s all you plan on using a laptop for, I think most people would suggest the 8gb ram. Paying for the extra ram is probably wasting your money. But I’m no expert.

[@aircommandslipperz]

@@Shootingstar1203 for your kind of usage, 8gb is good enough.

[@rafiislam1511]

This video is a fkin gem. I've been so conflicted about which memory route to go for getting an m1 air 3 years later (yes ik the 2023keynote is tonight stfu), this vid just made it so much easier for me kudossss

[@AndiGomez-yu2dx]

@@Shootingstar1203just look at how many 8 GB MacBooks there are on the used market.. absolutely loads. Should tell you everything you need to know

[@MrEcted]

If you’re the type of power user that would actually see degradation in SSD performance due to memory cell damage then you’re also the type of user who will have probably bought a new computer WAY before you would actually see such damage. If you’re a power user and you only upgrade every 10-15 years then you’re probably not really a power user. Modern SSDs can handle hundreds of terabytes of write cycles.

[@gregorynaas-lattanzio8288]

However, if you're the kind of user who, like me, does upgrade every ten years, then putting $180 USD down now to double your memory can make a lot of sense to future proof the hardware for your needs and for changes in the ecosystem. I don't consider myself a power user, but that's debatable since I edit video and create music (though much of my day-to-day is in Microsoft office and Adobe suite). In any case, I'll use this thing to its death, so, if you're a similar user (not quite a "power user"), it does make some sense to just buy the memory since you can't upgrade it later.

[@rusticraver82]

Agreed, I upgrade every 1-2 years now, only laptop I owned for more than 3 years was the 2015 MBP, and I still have my old MB Air 2012, but I specced that out to i7 with 8GB ram and 480gb ssd, still going strong for web work. I recently bought a Ryzen 4800H powered 32GB Hp Omen as my daily driver and already considering upgrading it after 11 months.

[@Nakameguro97]

@@gregorynaas-lattanzio8288 I’m one of those developers who replace machines every 10 years (looking to replace a 2013 mbp and a 2009 iMac), but with the advent of the M1 MBA, I’m heavily incentivized to just buy a base MBA and cut my replacement cycle to five years. The price to performance on these machines is that compelling to me.

[@raptornomad1221]

Yeah, I would even say that this is a non-issue for all users. SSD degradation is so minimal in modern settings that the issue raised in this video will not see the light of day.

[@santiagovallejozea5147]

@@Nakameguro97 man i am in the world of programming, would you recommend the mba m1?

[@AR-scorp]

1st Tech reviewer who really knows the tech. I am device driver developer, and was pleasantly surprised hearing about swap memory in a gadget review. Subbed. This guy knows what is required.

[@NatsuMatto]

TL:DW -- 8 GB of RAM is perfectly fine for 99% of users.

[@GODMODEPLUS]

for those users they should just get a cheap pc with 8gb

[@borngymrat]

@@GODMODEPLUS mba is really cheap comparing to other stupid windows laptops under 800 $

[@krowwithakay]

@@GODMODEPLUS What if they just prefer Mac Os and that makes it worth it for them? It certainly works a lot better for my work.

[@omarw007]

Not all heroes wear capes

[@lennyizekor809]

Too long didn’t write?? 😂😂 I get you bro dw

[@__fred__]

Thank God at last I find a tech reviewer who goes straight to the point, explains things in a simple and effective way and actually tell people if they need this spec or this spec. I’m tired of all the tech reviewers who at the end will tell you : “every hardware has it’s pros and cons and you’ve got to know what you want”. This is so unhelpful. Thanks for the concise and relevant reviews, keep reviewing!

[@aalexis3]

This is exactly what he did as well. I still don’t have a straight yes or no answer if 8 GB is enough for a normal everyday user who browses the web, uses email and watches YT videos. He still casts doubt in my decision. Why can’t someone say this is what you need period. And what about future proofing for a user like me? 99% of us don’t ever edit a video on our machines or use photoshop. Not gaming either.

[@danniarrezafirdausy2538]

@@aalexis3 judging from your needs, 8gb is enough for you then

[@SteveSurgenor]

As long as you don’t fill up your SSD to the brim, the system uses different areas of the SSD so as not to write to the same area over and over, so you could argue that a bigger SSD is better at protecting your SSD than more RAM.

[@M4X1]

That doesn't make sense. You prevent the issue by increasing the ram, meanwhile you want to delay the issue by instead allocating a bigger ssd

[@leagueofotters2774]

@@M4X1 I guess it would all depend on how much RAM and how large of an SSD you have....also your usage.

[@LeoMkII]

@@M4X1 not really, there's a KZbin channel that made a comparison between the 8 and 16 gigs version and both memory swapped into the ssd, the 16 one even when the ram wasn't full, idk why

[@Vitoman901]

@Bohdan M This guy made a video recently about ssd lifespan, and it was way beyond 5-6 years. Are you speaking from personal experience?

[@colingraham3964]

@Bohdan M What a complete crock of shit. Time isn't the issue, usage is (and even then it is debatable whether it actually has an effect).

[@jophinjoy]

I love the minimalist setup of your recording room.

[@thaminduheshan91]

Change the Topic into “How to be a proper tech KZbinr”

[@klaw03]

The writing on whiteboard vs writing on paper analogy was heaps good! So easy to understand in such a concise video

[@tunesofeleven]

Finally someone making sense and talking about practical use instead of shoving pretty much useless benchmark numbers down our throats.

[@iinlane]

It's bs though. Swap isn't new and isn't a problem in this.

[@_rajenderjoshi]

I've been heavily using my Macbook Pro(i7/16GB) for more than 2 years now which can average to 10 hours/day. My swap consumption is always around 5-15GB and so far I've not faced any problem with the SSD. My primary usage is around day to day programming, running Docker, running few NodeJS servers and regular apps(Slack/Mail/Chrome). As much as I believe that using SSD for swap memory is not a good idea, my personal experience says, it doesn't affect a lot of users like me. Not sure how things behave when someone's using swap memory for hours of video editing.

[@Spladoinkal]

Nah it takes a significant amount of rewrites to damage an ssd, usually terabytes. It will eventually happen though. One of the dangers of having a non-removable ssd as your boot drive. You prolly have 5+ more years out of it though.

[@gonzaloortizolave6175]

Man this is some serious quality work, straight to the point, no wondering around and taking perspectives that most "top" reviewers don't even know about. Subscribed, watching everything you put out and man, props to you!

[@JamieHicks154]

Seeing a lot of videos from KZbin’s discussing swap and telling people to really worry and buy the 16GB version as they may have an issue with swap Wanted to give some info, I have a PHD in computer science, but can’t give exact data as Apple don’t publish exact details on the ssd model or manufacture they use, but Samsung do and they publish details, (Apple use Samsung ssd in the past in systems) Most users will only write about 5gb. per day. Samsung offers a 5 year warranty or 200tb on the 960-series. (Older chart so M1 will use a newer SSD, but used Samsung chart for ref) Samsung 256GB, 200TB endurance guarantee from Samsung(maybe more just what the will warranty) At 200tb divided by 5gb per day = 40000 divided by 365 days = 109 years Think the ssd will be fine, don’t quote me fully on the math but wanted to add some details for people.

[@gilbert2720]

There’s been a few examples of the new M1 macs swapping much more than other computer, sometimes on the order of hundreds of GB per day.

[@BillyHeany]

Pretty sure apple uses closer to the 970 or 980 pro as well - so potentially more write

[@JamieHicks154]

@@BillyHeany been using a base model m1 mini for about a 2 weeks now and not had any issues with swap, used for software dev with loads of chrome, Firefox tabs, vscode, interm, slack, zoom and multiple local dev servers running for software dev plus running figma and compilers and no slow down or ram issues, not sure if long term issues but wanted to give an update on my usage.

[@akuoko_konadu]

Man love your work. The explanation is on point thank you.

[@mcphotonow3791]

Literally, the best info in condensed time. To the point and by far the clear winner of videos dealing with this and similar topics. I commented to also help you as well as liked the video because your hard work to make this video deserves a thank you somehow from the masses. Thank you!

[@certifiedloverboy658]

This is the best channel to get M1 info about. Every question I’ve had about the M1 has been answered by created labs and they get straight to the point.

[@Errcyco]

Thank you! For the not 45 minute continuous shot review!!

[@iloveibanez92]

This is an amazing video. Perfect, to the point.

[@CreatedTech]

Thanks for your comment! I appreciate it

[@terenoth]

Absolutely the best analogy for SSDs being like paper, and RAM like whiteboards.

[@moishesilverman1971]

SSD degradation seems like a myth. I have been using a 2012 macbook almost daily for 8 years, the SSD is doing fine despite having 8 gb and using swap all the time

[@CreatedTech]

Yeah, I doubt it will be an issue for 99% of people, but it is still a legitimate concern. My video is mostly for people who are literally rendering or 3D modelling on their Mac for 8 hours a day for work or something.

[@npgy]

This is my same experience with a 2013 macbook pro. Just upgraded to the base model Air. I use it lightly anyway, so I have zero concern about the SSD dying, even if it does I back up my data diligently.

[@MorgonautHackintosh]

​@@npgy exactly because you are "using it lightly" then you may not be facing swap file at all. If you would have 100 tabs open in several web browsers for few month you will be able to see even 40-50 GB of swap file and then your ssd would die much sooner!

[@npgy]

@@MorgonautHackintosh Yeah, in that use case I agree that upgrading is the best option

[@asdbef3667]

Then you are not using it enough

[@HugoHoutzager]

i like that you channel is growing so quick, keep it going

[@arjunsehgal521]

Short,informative and smooth, perfect videos like these would put you on a fast track to 1M subscribers.Good Luck my friend and watching these video makes my need for a laptop grow.Thanks

[@bayleyvos849]

To someone who doesn't understand the lingo so deeply, your examples have shed some much needed light on this! Thank you so much! Definitely subscribing!

[@andreaslehmann7477]

If we are talking here about 5 to 6 years before slowing down the SSD, I'm totally comfortable with swap memory

[@mykeekym]

Generally how many years is this going to take to wear down the ssd with swap memory?

[@Julian-tn4lp]

Same here. In 5-6 years, my laptop will be long gone and I’d probably would have updated already to the newest MacBook or something.

[@mykeekym]

@@Julian-tn4lp i badly need the macbook now but knowing this swap memory. If its 5 to 6 yrs surely you will get your ROI over your machine. Im using macbook pro 2012 mid that i upgraded the internals but maybe its time to hand this over and get a new one. Thats about 8 yrs of use.

[@janrenehaak]

@@mykeekym Mine Macbook Pro is even older haha Early 2011, so I need to upgraded. Wanted to wait until the M1 and seeing all this reviews I'm hyped :D

[@mykeekym]

@@janrenehaak true thats why i need to make sure i get the best and will not think of what ifs. Or run back to the store and have it change. Here in the Ph, you are not allowed to return purchased if the reason is that you are not satisfied of its performance. Hahahaah so really want to make sure. I'm still with 16gb 512/1tb though.

[@lukeiamnotyourfather444]

You are right - the other comparisons didn’t explain the swap memory - thank you!

[@iphaze]

I’m a Product Designer, I’m not a video editor or rendering large 3D files, but I use a LOT of Sketch files - Ive been mulling the 8/16 split for a few days now. I was set on 8GB, but after this I’m re-considering, and thinking now 16 is the way to go... 🤔

[@carolinab8985]

Which one did u got? I’m going to college to take Design and I am thinking about the 8gb one but I’m afraid of doing a stupid purchase

[@hidaes5093]

@@carolinab8985 which one did u buy?

[@carolinab8985]

@@hidaes5093 haven’t bought it yet only know if I get in to college in the end of September but I’m getting the 8gb one prob

[@hidaes5093]

@@carolinab8985 i bought the 8gb and it's great!

[@carolinab8985]

@@hidaes5093 yeah so did I !! Think it’s gonna last me at least 5 years

[@aaronkfmaster]

Well done. It's better to spend an extra $200 or so for double the processing, rather than $300 for the pro for about 15% better performance and brightness. I'll take the processing. Apple kind of made a mistake this time by making the pro and the air almost identical under the hood and most of their consumer base can't be bothered to look up all of their differences

[@akamiguelsanchez9985]

You are absolutely killing it with these M1 videos, literally some of the most informative content out there atm

[@heroninja1125]

I would just go for the highest RAM available on basically any device I get that isnt a phone or tablet, its usually one of the cheapest upgrades in a device, that also has one of the biggest improvements at the same time.

[@pludo645]

This was EXACTLY what I was looking for. Thanks so much!!!

[@eklavyasharma]

With the performance and benchmarks I have seen on M1, you may never need a 16GB ram unless you are doing high intensive task 8 hours a day. For very high intensive task Mac Mini is a better choice. At this point Air and Pro do not have much difference in between them. You really have to buy Pro wait until next year for second generation.

[@pranavgautam96]

Not true. Apparently, my M1 base variant is either has a hardware problem or a few tabs of chrome and a few in Safari really can mess up the base variant. My memory pressure is always yellow and slows down when I switch between apps and the pressure hits the red peak.

[@Vitoman901]

@@pranavgautam96 That seems like an issue bro, even the intel macs with 8b can handle many chrome tabs

[@FloridaLife]

Good information.... I ordered the 16Gb version without knowing this just to be on the safe side. Good thing, since this machine will be used for a massive amount of daily transcoding and rendering 😁

[@Abcde-zn1qn]

I’m not English native. So it is good choice taking 16gb right??

[@shivamkalla935]

@@Abcde-zn1qn yes.

[@jseden]

I bought a 512/8gb m2 air over the summer and was constantly using a decent amount of swap.. not even doing anything particularly heavy. Now have the 18gb m3pro MBP and it’s been great. Would have hung onto the air but I found a killer deal on the pro just after Xmas and couldn’t resist.

[@ManuelRossi]

From previous tests it seems 8gb would be enough even for 4k video editing, so 16gb could be a better solution for those who work as video editor for big projects or 3D animator or VFX. Amazing contents on your channel! Can you test the performance and differences between 7-core CPU and the 8-core GPU on Air?

[@zNoah]

You can also go for 512gb ssd, it should increase lifespan if you use it as a 240gb one.

[@chidorirasenganz]

@@zNoah true but to destroy the drive you have to be writing 100gb a day for 20+ years to destroy the drive

[@zNoah]

@@chidorirasenganz What's the TBW rating for the Macbook ssd? I'm saying that because I'm a heavy user and I've written 40TB out of 80TB my SSD is rated for in 2 years. 2 years more and it won't be reliable anymore. More expensive ssd like the ones on the MacBook should be higher but could still be a concern (Tho MacOS uses way less swap than Windows).

[@thehomeofficeproductions]

Interesting points and I get it. The one thing I like about old Macs is that they're so upgradeable with SSDs and RAM, breathing new life into them. I got the M1 Air with 8GB and 500GB SSD. So that's £150 more than the base spec. I couldn't bring myself paying another £200 for more RAM, considering that it is 20% of the base price which could go towards saving up for the next model if so needed.. Do you think a 500GB hard drive can sustain the hard drive longer? I don't plan to fill it up above half it's capacity, or load, offload occasional video projects.

[@Spladoinkal]

Bigger ssd's are slightly faster due to having more memory cells to write to so yes, a bigger drive is better. Also, going over 75% can full can significantly slow down the drive and even cause it to wear out quicker due to ALL the cells having data.

[@paouvous]

Ssd’s last longer and longer. For years I was having 50GBs writes on my Macbook 12 every day. No problem.

[@luxembourger]

I don't know the details of these SSDs, but Samsung SSDs from around 2016 wear of much slower than those from 2019. The MTBF got shorter, not longer.

[@ameeno]

Actually my view is the opposite of this video. I consider myself a power user but purchased the 8gb 256gb air model. The reason I figured 8gb would be fine is because of the super fast nvme ssd + SWAP. Such a fast ssd is great for swap usage and ram expansion,and as I don't render 4k video or any video, most ram data can be swapped back and fourth quickly (and apple over charges for larger ram and ssd). Ultimately I'm gonna be using RDP and nfs/samba and a Linux VM on my proxmox desktop for any x86 Dev workflows/docker. This MacBook air is a fanless arm laptop with supported software. iOS apps. Xcode. Android studio with arm native VM (when ready) and a bunch of other stuff. I can already buy additional external storage cheaper that can be plugged in via thunderbolt or nfs. It's actually SWAP+ the fast ssd that enables the 8gb model to be almost as performant as the 16gb model. And I agree with all the other users. I will replace the laptop wayyyy before the ssd eventually dies, and most likely sell it for not too much less than I bought the machine for in the first place. Imo the 8gb 256gb fanless MacBook air m1 is a great entry point into the apple ecosystem

[@pryx4661]

I have a Early 2015 Macbook Pro retina that has 1900 cycles of charging. I can't wait for my 16gig M1 to get here is an understatement.

[@mootsym]

not to "1-up" ya, but I'm using my sister's $300 hp i3 while I wait for the 14" MBP... my actual laptop is a 2008 13" MBP running Snow Leopard, which I do still use at times, but I can't watch 720p youtube at 1.5 speed on it like on this Windows machine- which I could easily write a list of stupidities that I put up with while using it.. truly incredible a group of people built this and sold it to the public.. borderline disrespectful to humanity.

[@HaeDreyK]

I feel like I should get the 16GB ram with 256GB ssd rather than 8GB ram with 512GB ssd so I might not need to upgrade after a couple of year & I feel like the extra 8GB upgrade is an investment for the longevity of the laptop

[@mirza2975]

Currently considering this same exact thing, i feel like with cloud and online storage being so popular too, the ram memory seems more important for actual usage

[@anishannanfanskozhikodeuni6501]

Is it available?

[@soaksignal]

you should, you can always buy external ssds

[@datdudeinred]

For the love of God test the 16 vs 8gb ram with chrome tabs.. Literally nobody is talking about that in their comparisons.

[@iam_evgen]

+100500

[@dwightamato5672]

Agreed. That’s what’s killing my 16GB late 2012 MacMini with 3 family members using it.

[@peakperformance7773]

I remember someone opened 400 Tabs on Chrome with the 8GB Model an only thing that was cracked was Chrome itself. Big Sur was running fine still. If you just use it for daily business 8GB of RAM will be enough.

[@phamily-tv]

I'm sick of chrome. It hogs so much resources

[@peakperformance7773]

@@phamily-tv use Safari or Firefox. ;)

[@marsrocket]

Mac laptops in general seem to last a lot longer than you’d expect a Windows laptop to, so I always recommend getting more RAM upfront if you can’t expand it because you have no idea what the next 10 years will bring in terms of OS features and requirements. If it gives you an extra 2-3 years of usable life out of the laptop then it’s almost always worth the upfront cost.

[@Eyerusalem_]

What about in SSD?

[@Spladoinkal]

I think computers are just more reliable in general nowadays. I have a Windows laptop from 10 years ago I have no issues with and I've had a MacBook that had to have the logic board replaced 3x within 2 years as well as screen burn in. I say use the right tool for the right job. I use Mac for music production and my wife uses a Mac and ipad for digital art but PC's for gaming.

[@dramaticpro1762]

I like the way get straight in to the content unlike other KZbinrs ask to subscribe for al most 5 mins

[@wabberjockybrah3983]

What I like about this channel its very straight to the point. Other tech guys channels make these in 10min videos but in happy you make it precise as much as possible

[@donaldgazidedja8134]

Do you mind to do a review on 16gb mac air vs 8gb mac pro? It may be useful for some people like me. And i liked this approach of memory swapping. From plenty of videos i watched none of them ever mentioned it.

[@vinayspidey7685]

Expecting the same bro 😄😅

[@abhishekbhandari070]

What did you get

[@donaldgazidedja8134]

@@abhishekbhandari070 i got macbook air with 16gb of ram, 8 core cpu and 7 core gpu! And as a web developer, mobile app programmer and for good designs on photoshop/XD/etc it is amazing. Battery life is around 8-10 hours depending on the usage. I am happy getting 16 gb of ram since it stays always 10gb + because of my usage. Is flawless even tho i open like 4-5 screens or even 30+ tabs on web browser

[@soomi5667]

@@donaldgazidedja8134 How much storage does yours have? I’m trying to pick between the 256 or 512 haha.

[@donaldgazidedja8134]

@@soomi5667 hi man, i have 256gb and 16 gb if ram… I preferred ram over memory, and I bought a 128 usb C for my personal stuff… I recommend you to get lower memory, higher ram, and buy an external ssd. If money is not a problem for you well, go for 512

[@mohaawwkk]

Honestly I don't think this is something anyone should worry about. But congratulations on the 1,7 million views :)

[@KaryoSentiko]

Your whiteboard/paper analogy is perfect and very elucidating.

[@Briganteman]

I didn't really need a new laptop but when AO.com offered 3 years 0% I bought the 8GB M1 Macbook Pro, I will only be using it for running Logic Pro X probably no more than a few hours a week (which according to other youtubers it can easily handles multiple tracks and loaded plugins).

[@ragnarlothbrook8117]

Finally someone mentioned the swap file instead just showing that 'the 8gb version is fast enough'. Thumbs up.

[@djteknovibe93]

The best option is to always use an external drive to store music, videos and photos as external drives can be replaced whereas the built in drive in the Macbooks cannot unless sent to Apple and replaced by them at serious cost. That's one advantage of Windows laptops you can upgrade the built in hard drives anytime you want. If you wanted to you could have a Samsung QVO 8TB SSD in a Windows laptop and an external back up drive so you get years and years more usage than you would with a Macbook. But overall i'd say if people are dead set on getting a Macbook of any sort whether it be an Air or Pro i'd say store virtually nothing on the internal drive and get yourself as large an external SSD drive as you can and use a 2.5" USB-C drive case to put it in, and then use a USB-C to Thunderbolt or whatever connector cable it is on the laptop.

[@djteknovibe93]

@Bohdan M So what if there aren't a lot there are some amazing Windows laptops and the more costly ones have spaces for two internal SSD drives and already have 32GB and some have 64GB Ram and excellent graphics cards.

[@arvindramesh1830]

This channel is everything I look for in a tech review channel. Subscribed

[@CreatedTech]

Welcome aboard!

[@NathanTenney]

I'm old school. I always opt for more RAM if it's available.

[@myblacklab7]

You're smart.

[@joncaseyclary]

Wow! I just watched an informative video with a subtle subscribe ask and no performative “look at me talk” cameos from the creator. Impressed and subscribed.

[@collinlove]

This isn’t true. Apple uses swap regardless of whether you push the memory hard. Even if you’re a power user, it’s not significant enough to shorten SSD lifespan.

[@MikeLeitner]

Correct, swap is normally at least same size as RAM or double

[@brotendo]

The SSD on these Macs isn't going to degrade enough to be troublesome or noticeable in anyone's lifetime with these computers lol.

[@JokerTheDank]

Based on what data, let's hear that

[@brianshickey]

To all those who are planning on posting videos of any kind really, pay close attention to this particular video. I say so because it checks all of the boxes and then some. It is full of relevant information, answers all of the questions it’s title set out to do, it is very well filmed, and most importantly, it is concise in a short amount of time. Almost all of the other videos on this topic were far too long and detailed with lengthy commentary that was completely unnecessary. The average KZbinr will check out when this happens and won’t like or subscribe to your posting. This is by far the most important aspect when creating a video. So!… Use this as a template. It is a fantastic post that answered everything I was looking for, I was completely engaged when watching it, and I liked & subscribed because of this. Well done. I’m buying the 8g with money to spare.

[@suryakumars]

Dude, I think you’ve probably made more money off the m1 than Apple at this point.

[@fahyen6557]

genius u are

[@ThePolocus]

Thank you for not being like 99% of youtube channels and constantly reminding viewers to subscribe and like, and generally having tons of non-related content. Instead, you tastefully placed a "Subscribe!" on the whiteboard, but only to explain something. Thank you. This actually made me subscribe :) Keep it up!

[@diogosantos2432]

Let's say: 7 word/pages documents, 5 pdf, 1 excel, 2/3 ppt, 15 tabs, Spotify on the background. The 8GB ram model is a) more than enough? and b) can last for 5-7 years? I'm currently with an intel MacBook Pro with 16GB ram and with this type of usage I'm always with ~12GB Ram being used and around 1,5GB Ram in swap.

[@henri7399]

U just answered yourself the question, if u multitask a lot , use regulary more than 8 gigs then ofc get the 16 gigs , especially considering u want to use it for a very long time

[@peakperformance7773]

@@henri7399 You have to consider that Windows uses alot more RAM than the new Big Sur with the M1. It will have alot less effect so most likely if he can't spend the money to buy the 16GB I do think he wouldn't suffer that much.

[@henri7399]

@@peakperformance7773 same thought as u had but he was on a MacBook before using 12 gigs and big sur is good but not that good (+it has to fit his needs in 5 years so the 200€ upprice hurts a bit but is justifiable)

MacOS is designed to use as much ram as it can. Don't be surprised it uses the ram, because it's there. If you had 8gb, I guarantee it would be just fine also. And if you had 32gb of ram, your system would use like 18. It's just how ram is used on MacOS.

[@peakperformance7773]

@ You are correct. What I really wanted to say is that it won't most likely overcap that much. "It uses 8GB to run better not because it's needed"

[@carlelsby]

I have a MacBook Pro and also iMacs for my business ready for a new laptop and not sure if should I have a MacBook Air or MacBook Pro ? I use them generally for office applications, all docs in cloud and various CRM systems we use in financial services which are all web browser based, so appreciate your comments which you would think is ideal now for me, thanks so much 👍

[@ibrahimdunga]

i think yall need to subscribe to this channel cuz he has posted more videos about the new macs than all the youtuber together😂

[@ibrahimdunga]

@The ABC Jug Band facts

[@Bombichote1]

Probably because he buys them to return them later, so he need to do the content fast.

[@AlbyTheMovieCreator]

Your channel is growing so fast. Great to see that you're making it. Keep posting and giving what people want.

[@Kickey165]

Noo don't use old-school clickbait titles for your video, good sir! You're refreshingly better than the rest of the youtubers, who only try to beat the algorith. You genuinely have great content, which will organically grow your viewers!

[@CreatedTech]

I thought about this before writing the title, but I honestly don't think it's clickbait. It really is a huge mistake that some people could make. Literally like having a dead laptop in 12-18 months because you constantly use 3gb+ of swap for hours and hours a day. I am always open to other opinions though!

[@GeeGeeScrub]

@@CreatedTech I think it’s just the HUGE exaggeration. See it everywhere nowadays. I didn’t mind because you had the actual subject matter in the title though. Thanks for all the videos man, helped me figure out what to get! Can’t wait.

[@MsEyelinered]

@@CreatedTech I immediately saw it and thought “clickbait.” I almost didn’t watch for that reasons - I’ve seen three vids with almost the same title already and figured it would be the same info

[@saintsid2423]

Huge respect to you 🙏 This guy managed to pull out 38 quality content videos in just 2 weeks. #thegrindison

[@CreatedTech]

What RAM option do you think you need?

[@little_astro581]

thank you so much for trying to help us and giving us a chance to own one. so lovely ♥️

[@TheJuliusmans]

I want this one for my study 🖐

[@rinkiyakepapa3082]

thanx for the chance bro

[@pinkplease2374]

Yes please!.

[@ujjalmia1486]

I have participated sir.

[@kaziiqbal7257]

What kind of power use are we talking about? I’m gonna be using my Mac mini to do some music production and a few videos for school and for fun but nothing above 1080p. Is 8 enough for me?

[@ratnamani8228]

Yes. 👍

[@bluein2red423]

The flaw in this argument is that MacOS uses swap memory even when there is plenty of RAM free. My 16gb M1 MBP is usually using around 1gb swap, even with 6gb+ free RAM.

[@Yeabuddy720]

So should I get the 16GB m1 air instead of the 8?

[@thewickedlab277]

@@Yeabuddy720 wondering the same

[@Yeabuddy720]

@@thewickedlab277 ended up getting the 8gb because I plan on upgrading prob within 4 years I’m sure this new tech will have big leaps by then. So cheaper is better for me now then I’ll buy a more expensive one when they have better hardware and software maybe even a redesign

[@user-qy2wf2lt6v]

As far as my limited understanding goes, the OS keeps some critical code/assets in there, just in case you run out of RAM, instead of having to create one on the go. Sort of a "insurance". I doubt that most of it is used dynamically

[@Neffins]

I'm sure it'll always do that regardless of how much RAM you have, EVEN if they offered a 32GB one(unless they specified that in some code), the amount that it preserves probably isn't even utlilized to the max, it's just a failsafe most likely, but it's still a better idea to aim for the 16GB because you have less of a chance of having to use more swap.

[@caton_andrew]

The analogies in this video made it very easy to understand! Thanks!

[@real45x63]

I've got the 8GB version of the MBA M1 and I'm glad I didn't buy 16GB. I've come to learn that Apple's unified memory is much more efficient than memory on an Intel Mac and in day to day use it really shows.

[@avrgbtw]

Hey a bit late here, how is the MBA keeping up now? Is 8gb still fine for you?

[@azumta]

How’s the performance today? And what size SSD did you get? Thanks

[@irfanhakimi2721]

Hows today?

[@darrellroseborough7275]

You can’t ask for a better break down explaining. There’s technicians and then there’s tech-fictions. Straight forward no bullshit for 30-40 min. Clear and detail of the important information for the everyday general user. Thanks much for the content. Subscribing.

[@natalita222]

Damn this is something I had never considered and it makes so much sense! When I get a new Mac I’m definitely going to buy a 16GB version. I edit a lot and it’s clear it would be worth it to invest in the 16GB. Thanks for the upload!!

[@kurtklimisch7498]

The average person - it will never be an issue. Other tech bloggers have shown this to be way over blown.

[@sitandchill2897]

Same here, I'm one of the 5% who need that 16GB RAM - content/video person. Need something to run as smoothly as my current work pro does. Did you get yours already?

[@SaschaJS]

Just got my 8-core, 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD M1 Air and I honestly couldn‘t be happier with it

[@flintostopowich9874]

Super clear explanation! Quick question: when you say multitasking, what does that include? I often use Zoom with VLC, Powerpoint, Microsoft Word and have a seperate cam and mic connected. Is that worthy of 16GB or still 8GB is fine? Thanks.

[@adm1794]

8

[@duncanidaho7494]

8

[@zuhairreza]

Such a clear and to-the-point explanation. I'm subscribing as I want to see more from this channel.

[@MaxRovensky]

I have a dying 2018 13" mid-tier MacBook Pro and I've been planning to save up for a 16" upgrade, but the more I watch M1 videos, the more I feel like getting a $999 MacBook Air will be a better upgrade 😅

[@SKAOG21]

I think wait for the next gen apple Silicon. It's never good to buy a first gen product

[@muhammadaneeq1163]

Im getting the macbook air base model in place of my year old 2018 13" MBP, can't wait to get it tomorrow

[@MaxRovensky]

@@SKAOG21 i agree, and I was the #1 ARM sceptic, but these machines look really good so far and I reeeeeally need a replacement lol

[@sturmx96]

I second that, by that time there must be no non optimized soft left . Although I think you can sell your Mac more expensive now rather than 1 year later, when no intel macs will be valuable.

[@muhammadaneeq1163]

@@sturmx96 my 1800$ mbp is selling for 1000$ so might as well buy the new air imo

[@Artem-sl7uw]

This is by far the best explanation I've heard.

[@botdud]

Finally I understood swap memory usage. most of the KZbinrs are just saying a bunch of tech geek words and I didn't get it at all. BTW I have a 8 gig version and I do average video editing and a pretty good amount of multitasking. never lagged or acted any strange.

[@CamiUrquidi]

I had problems when using my old MacBook Pro 2017 with 8gb of ram. It eventually started slowing the flow of the work I was doing (even typing) then it started freezing whatever I was doing when multitasking or get super hot or the ventilator would make super loud noises. Even though they say M1 works better... I’m considering the 16gb ram just to be sure it won’t cause me same issues as the older version of the MacBook Pro did. Fingers crossed this time I won’t have a problem! Thank you for the video!

[@stefitoo2454]

What ssd did you go for? Still 256ssd but 16gigs ram?

[@eppsislike]

Get the 16gb, disable Swap usage and you'll be good. This also works on the 8gb but you'll be in trouble since the 8gb gets used up easily. With the 16gb, I have never gone over 12gb.

[@futuresagexxi]

I like how you compare RAM and SSD with White Board and Paper. It totally made me understand my confusion for months! Thanks to you bro

[@nickm8355]

Another problem with swap memory is that when your SSD is almost full, you’ll be limited to the 8gb of ram you originally had.

[@dimafet001]

Swap memory is usually a separate virtual volume on the disk. Nothing goes there except for the overflowing ram. That’s how it works on linux. Not sure mac is the same but it should work the same way since it’s a related system

[@niewazneniewazne1890]

@@dimafet001 there are custom daemons for on-demand swap growing on Linux;

[@Lukas-kh5gu]

wow, zero bullshit explanation. and a good one. I subbed!! excited for 2021!

[@Edgar_Davids]

Which is the best choice for Data Scientists who needs to open big csv files in jupyter, use Spark etc (Pro 8 gb M1 vs Air 16 gb M1)?

[@escrality3383]

I love the content that this man gives, short but sweet, straight to the point, no unneccesary explaining and such

[@salonzo]

Ovuh and ovuhh again! When you get more focused on the man's accent than the content

[@yassinemadness5901]

Love the format my guy , straight to the point , keep at it ❤️

[@alexalucard1611]

Buy 512GB instead of 16GB of ram. 512GB is 300 TBW which is the double of 256GB at 150 TBW. 16GB of ram doesn't mean that you're using two times less the swap memory vs 8GB of ram

[@mikesrandomchannel]

1 minute in and we've already covered the basics of RAM. Superb video.

[@backatbragg]

Thanks for the review, very informative. I was on the fence with the 8 vs 16 but eventually went with 16 gig ram. I need to wait until Jan for it to ship though.

[@SirBumRush]

We need more videos like this on youtube. To the point, easy and simple to understand!

[@Avoug]

There's a video out there comparing swap memory on the 8 and 16gb, and it's pretty much the same. The mac will use swap even before it reaches its max on ram.

[@karlmall]

Really? Why is that?

[@Avoug]

@@karlmall no idea why Apple chooses to do that. check out the video from Max Tech. “Apple m1 macs 8gb vs 16gb Ram - Multitasking Stress test”

[@karlmall]

But then using 16 GB RAM instead of 8 GB in order to protect your SSD as recommended in the video above is pretty pointless, isn't it?

[@TheRedeemer3]

Yes, it is.

[@testxxxx123]

​@@karlmall It is pointless. And the claim you would notice a SSD degradation caused by swap is just anecdotal, there is no data to back it up.