The NEW Orvis Helios Fly Rod | Introducing the 2024 Orvis Helios with Davis James

[@dankochanek8056]

I didn't even know Anglers All sold Orvis!!

[@JacqueLaChanceV8]

"increased accuracy which equates to less lost flies and less broken leader, translating into money saved" sure thing, need to save every penny after I drop $1100 on a fishing rod, I guess using that snap instead of a rod sock tie really increased the production cost.

[@jaaron2834]

I'd rather spend that kind of money on DH Spey rods, ... Feels like you're getting a lot more rod for the money as well, ....Like a Gaelforce Equalizer, ... I am more inclined to pay over $1000 for the Gaelforce rod but not for the Orvis.…

[@wolfbarrenechea8865]

6xsl3z😅

[@glenndotter5065]

Logo is still the ugliest in the industry and I'm not being paid by Orvis to advertise

[@barry4fish19]

Maybe you can ask them why they didn’t fix the 2 biggest complaints of the last version (lack of hook keeper, and white label that I know first hand, will spook fish in certain situations).

[@perrykomick9478]

😂

[@Subaruuu12]

what do you need a hook keeper for? Just use the stripping guide.

[@barry4fish19]

@@Subaruuu12 Yes that’s possible, but not meant for it. This puts much more of your leader inside your guides when you are walking with your rod between wading spots, or motoring between fishing locations, or putting your rod up in your cartop rod carrier between stream stops. One point is, manufacturers are doing it to increase profits, while taking away utility. You may not care for them, that’s a choice whether someone wants to use one, but why take that choice away when there are many fly fisherman that want them. One of my best friends is a custom rod builder, he says 88% of his rod builds include a hook keeper on request.

[@Subaruuu12]

@@barry4fish19 its literally the reason they dont put a hook keeper on them, they want you to use the guides. This puts none of ur leader in the guides, and u dont get that annoying kink in ur leader from the hook keeper. Orvis has realized theyre pointless, everyone else needs to get on board.

[@barry4fish19]

@@Subaruuu12 Using a 9’ fly rod and a 7 1/2’ leader, hooking your fly on the hook keeper will leave your entire leader outside the guides, and that’s where I want it. As soon as you move your fly up and hook it to the stripper guide, then part of your leader is inside the guides and that’s where you get a kink in your leader. Last time I checked, the stripper guide on a fly rod is CLOSER to the tip than a hook keeper is - you are using the wrong math. And, Orvis does not give this reasoning for leaving out a hook keeper - they claim hook keepers cause more broken rods. The stripper guide is rarely designed to hook your fly to it, and sometimes if your fly is hooked to the ring it can damage the finish along the inside edge.