The NEW Suzuki DR-Z4S! Will it be any good?

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@Kaybe-i6f
@Kaybe-i6f 18 күн бұрын
Back when I was younger it was the PE awesome 2 stroke. These bikes were basic, peppy and fantastic fun… Remembering them fondly…
@paulcondie2520
@paulcondie2520 18 күн бұрын
I wish I still had mine!
@DualSportDoug
@DualSportDoug 19 күн бұрын
Earlier this year I was tempted to buy a KLX 300, then later, a CRF300 Rally. I suspected I'd be disappointed in the lack of power on both compared to my 2002 DRZ that I've owned since 2006. I didn't like the cramped seating position on the KLX. I decided to "wait and see" if a new DRZ comes out. It was a smart decision!
@1990-t1j
@1990-t1j 18 күн бұрын
Buy one!
@DualSportDoug
@DualSportDoug 18 күн бұрын
@@1990-t1j I already have a deposit on the new DRZ. I did it first thing Tuesday morning when my local dealer opened.
@johnnyofast5924
@johnnyofast5924 18 күн бұрын
My neighbot isn't all that hardcore and had a CRF300, rides mostly fire roads in upper michigan. He didn't like it, too slow, traded it in on a KTM EXC500, that took care of that. 🤣
@Texan_American
@Texan_American 16 күн бұрын
Good move
@andreacasula5109
@andreacasula5109 4 күн бұрын
Do it🎉
@PavelessAdventure
@PavelessAdventure 20 күн бұрын
I’ve owned a few drz’s I think they nailed the look of the new model! I was really hoping for a 6 speed gearbox. I’m curious to see what people can get out of this engine with an ecu flash! I’m sure an ecu flash without emissions limitations will absolutely wake up this bike!
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 20 күн бұрын
@@PavelessAdventure hope so! New exhaust and a tune up. Should go better.
@FineLine-Media
@FineLine-Media 19 күн бұрын
I'm pumped about this! I can understand the arguments for the weight and 6th gear but for us Europeans this bike is going to be a great upgrade from the CRF300L. The old model has not been sold here for ages so we really missed an option in this range. I personally don't care much about 6th gear, will hardly use it as I ride mostly offroad, but the 10Nm and 11hp increases compared to the CRF300 are awesome.
@nathanf1934
@nathanf1934 19 күн бұрын
Would love to see the new DRZ-4S up against a CRF300L with big bore and suspension work. I'd imagine the DRZ will cost 20%+ more than the Honda. The spare change could be poured into Honda mods. Its a lighter bike as well.
@andreacasula5109
@andreacasula5109 4 күн бұрын
Honda will be more reliable and cheap in years. As a european too I m in love with this toy. The last DR Z they sold here in the old continent was at the T Rex s ages
@FineLine-Media
@FineLine-Media 4 күн бұрын
@ with the amount I crash I doubt maintenance will be much cheaper😅 Operating cost is also not the most important thing to me, having similar maintenance intervals and more power sounds awesome though. Just enough to outrun those T-rex’s😉
@charliem5332
@charliem5332 19 күн бұрын
Best video yet on the new 400. I would say it compares more to the crf300 still than the 450.
@Weltbummler23
@Weltbummler23 19 күн бұрын
100% The 450 is an enduro, the 300 is a dual sport like the drz.
@PotatoeJoe69
@PotatoeJoe69 19 күн бұрын
Emissions and electronics add a lot of weight. That extra 10kg/22lbs is likely close to an even split of 50/50 weight added from exhaust, and weight added from electronica like a kilometer of wiring, computers etc.
@markcollins5026
@markcollins5026 19 күн бұрын
Man, nice a pound here and a pound there adds up fast !
@agro1942
@agro1942 19 күн бұрын
Hey Josh, I've messaged Suzuki australia to get them to pay attention to you and Lance and get you guys some DRZ4S demo bikes. Keep up the good work mate.
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 19 күн бұрын
@@agro1942 thanks legend! 🤙🏼
@shaelui
@shaelui 15 күн бұрын
Legend mate
@paulhubbert7840
@paulhubbert7840 20 күн бұрын
The new version looks awesome - looking forward to your thoughts when they come to Australia
@anthonya7066
@anthonya7066 20 күн бұрын
Looks good. I would prefer this over the outgoing model
@frankensteinsgarage9632
@frankensteinsgarage9632 20 күн бұрын
Im positive this will be a bike that doesn't match its specs. As you have mentioned. As long as it has the same reliability, service intervals as the DRZ400. And as long as exhaust, de restriction, and tune can be achieved with minimal fuss we will be onto a winner.
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 20 күн бұрын
@@frankensteinsgarage9632 exactly mate. That’s all I ask for with the new model:
@wayneheavs3920
@wayneheavs3920 20 күн бұрын
I have been advised by the local Suzuki dealer that the E model is continuing and for a while and will available along with the new model which wont be released in aus untill 3/4 of 2025
@FlyingBeardMan
@FlyingBeardMan 20 күн бұрын
Thanks for the info. The smaller fuel tank is the deal breaker for me. The original tank on my DRZ400E is only just big enough for some of the longer rides that I do. I wouldn't be prepared to have even less fuel.
@bananahammock3859
@bananahammock3859 19 күн бұрын
I’m sure there Will be loads of aftermarket fueltanks
@FlyingBeardMan
@FlyingBeardMan 19 күн бұрын
@@bananahammock3859 Probably. My DRZ is less than a year old, so I won't be changing it up for a while though (even though it's so battered that it looks ten years old!).
@gsawt
@gsawt 16 күн бұрын
Fuel economy is improved on the new bike apparently which I can believe so that might offset the smaller tank some
@DualSportDoug
@DualSportDoug 20 күн бұрын
I was hoping for a 6 speed, but that didn’t stop me from putting a deposit and being first on the waiting list 20 minutes after my local dealer opened yesterday.
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 20 күн бұрын
@@DualSportDoug that’s awesome mate!
@markcollins5026
@markcollins5026 19 күн бұрын
Man, nice but how much cabbage !
@DualSportDoug
@DualSportDoug 19 күн бұрын
@ Not sure on price since Suzuki hasn’t announced it yet. I did have to put a $500 deposit down though. Dealers in Washington seem to insist on a deposit on yet to arrive motorcycles. I had to do that on my Polaris Ranger too.
@verbalwidget7267
@verbalwidget7267 6 күн бұрын
That’s what Suzuki is counting on. We’ll give them nothing they wanted and they will still hand us their money. What suckers. 😂
@andreacasula5109
@andreacasula5109 4 күн бұрын
A Tiger in a hunt, the eye of tiger man! Well done that is the way to approach a Suzuki shop dealer.
@3GingerCats
@3GingerCats 17 күн бұрын
Video Idea... Summer is nearly here, new riders are here... how about a breakdown on what we need to take for a weekend camping trip, including the things were likely to forget, options on what to use for cooking etc and more importantly how to pack both the camping gear and bike maintenance gear intp cheap starter luggage like 28L (14L per side) saddle bags and a top bag (I chose one that can double as a back pack, so most of the actual camping stuff will be packed the same way as if I were Hiking) but what's needed, what's not and were's the best place to store it all for weight distribution and ease of access for the "needed fast" items?
@ianmccurley2806
@ianmccurley2806 20 күн бұрын
Gday mate. It’s Zed not Zee. This is Australia. And, really enjoy your channel
@Nostrum19
@Nostrum19 19 күн бұрын
australia is irrelevant as fuck. soy boys.
@stephenjacob9316
@stephenjacob9316 18 күн бұрын
Agree, the noo and zee gave me aids.
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 18 күн бұрын
@@ianmccurley2806 thanks for the English lesson 🤣 It’s just how I say it, you aren’t the first to comment about. Cheers for watching 🤙🏼
@nathan7880drz
@nathan7880drz 20 күн бұрын
Morning Josh, good on you for sharing that 👌 great video mate appreciate the time that goes into your channel as for the drz I think would prefer my 2012
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 20 күн бұрын
@@nathan7880drz thanks legend! Can’t go wrong with the current models 😁
@timsilva1944
@timsilva1944 19 күн бұрын
I had an S model here in the states. Sold it after I found an E model. Much lighter, more power, but not street legal. Now this is even heavier than the S. I'll keep my DR650.
@LooxJJ
@LooxJJ 12 күн бұрын
Here is one for DR400 & DR650 - Tweak the suspension a bit, tweak the engine a bit and jet it, put the bigger fuel tank, and put some rack on them. Before you know it, you are riding from Los Angeles to Patagonia.
@shaunbaxter1219
@shaunbaxter1219 6 күн бұрын
Looks cool , very reminiscent of the 2007 BMW g650 Xchallenge , in looks and technology
@MotoBloke1
@MotoBloke1 20 күн бұрын
Great video mate. It's been a few months since I've posted a comment. Long story short, I finally got back on the bike Monday after not riding for a few months. Had an injury at work and Man is it good to be back riding. The new drz is definitely a bike worth looking into , I might upgrade to one from my wr250. Ride safe ✌️
@leighhill9185
@leighhill9185 20 күн бұрын
I'll be keeping my WR250R unless I hear that the new DRZ gearbox ends up being wide ratio.
@MotoBloke1
@MotoBloke1 20 күн бұрын
@@leighhill9185 That makes sense, it's why I said I might upgrade my wr250. But honestly every time I throw a leg over my wr250 , I'm reminded why I love that bike so much. Ride safe mate.
@leanit5756
@leanit5756 17 күн бұрын
Any idea if the ergonomics have been modernized to facilitate standup riding (v. sit down like the old bike)?
@Simon-RucknRideAUD
@Simon-RucknRideAUD 20 күн бұрын
Assuming the on release the may have a factory Acro pov full exhaust system and EFI commander fuel control unit that would negate the weight thing and safari should have a big tank by then the rack seems good the best option is to have the two set of wheels like I did and I almost had both bikes, I did a lot of touring on the DR Zed
@kyle1758
@kyle1758 19 күн бұрын
I bought a new 400s last summer (2023) and even then I had a hunch that Suzuki would be updating it soon. I'm not bummed out, I've taken my DRZ 5000 miles in a year and a half and loved every second of it. My biggest FOMO would be the fuel injection but all the other bells and whistles I have absolutely no interest in, except maybe the dash panel. Fuel level and gear indicator would be a nice add on I can't deny that. For now though I have no interest in seeking out the new model but maybe someday!
@andyabik
@andyabik 16 күн бұрын
@@kyle1758 bought a 2024 E model (road legal in Nz) and agree with you 100%. Go the retro carby DRZ!
@kyle1758
@kyle1758 10 күн бұрын
@@andyabik They're trusty ol' tanks! We love our DRZ's because they're plain simple and reliable. I get the feeling most owners are perfectly happy without all the complicated stuff added on.
@jb26
@jb26 19 күн бұрын
DRZ fanboy here. I've got 2 E models and an sm so will have to get one just out of principle 😎
@Bolthole_Studios
@Bolthole_Studios 16 күн бұрын
@@jb26 if you do, I hope you’ll do a comparison video or post!
@jb26
@jb26 16 күн бұрын
@Bolthole_Studios I'm a fairly average rider and no good at making videos so I'll leave it up to the professionals (Josh and Lance) 😁
@lookingoverhell3448
@lookingoverhell3448 20 күн бұрын
i just bought the last 2024 model e , pick it up this weekend , glad i got the last model , don't go much on the new one ,
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 20 күн бұрын
@@lookingoverhell3448 you can’t go wrong with the current models mate 🤙🏼
@Eireocean
@Eireocean 20 күн бұрын
I hope its comes to South Africa and the after parts (luggage racks / crash bars etc) are readily available.
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 20 күн бұрын
@@Eireocean I’d say the aftermarket options won’t take too long to get out there.
@MrDingaling007
@MrDingaling007 17 күн бұрын
The 5 speed gearbox doesn't mean much imho. It's how the gears ratios are spaced that matters, and since this is a 400cc motor it has more power then say the 6 speed CRF300L, so it can get away with 5 gears no problems in my opinion. Will be interested how it rides when it comes out. Will hold off buying the 300L now.
@Yourfriendwasmagnificent
@Yourfriendwasmagnificent 20 күн бұрын
I'm disappointed about the missing 6th gear but other than that, I don't mind it and it looks good. The added weight is to be expected with the addition of abs & efi but an aftermarket exhaust will shave off a few kg atleast.
@marthinusvorster
@marthinusvorster 20 күн бұрын
Cheers for this. Well put together and real inspiring. Personally I reckon it's a ripper. Like what Suzuki did for the beloved yellow blond SuziQ. Recently I purchased a big ADV and it's the 1st time I have a 6th gear. Not getting all the hype about it. Ain't that 🤬 special. Sliced bread had a bigger impact for me. Here is what I would love to see. A comparison between previous carb model and all the specs. Also a comparison between 450RL and new SuziQ. In paticular measurements from where your butt hits the seat to handlebar to footrest to butt position. That triangle. Ta again and keep em coming.
@mt1885
@mt1885 20 күн бұрын
I wished they sold the DRZ400E with the flat slide carb and plastic tank stock in the states.
@timsilva1944
@timsilva1944 19 күн бұрын
They did... 20 years ago.
@BernieLemke
@BernieLemke 15 күн бұрын
I’ll stick with my 09 XR 650 thanks. Call me old school, but proven reliability, similar weight, better ground clearance, more HP, and easier to work on, minimal electronic ‘bells n whistles’ I don’t want or need…etc. I prefer simple, and that’s what I’ve got👍🏻
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 15 күн бұрын
@@BernieLemke that’s fair enough mate. That’s what I’ve got with my current 400E model. But I’m still excited to see how this new one goes.
@Jungleland33
@Jungleland33 20 күн бұрын
Honda will need to up their game with the CRF 300. I can see them losing a lot of sales to Suzuki as the 300 is just a bit too small. I have a 300 but would have preferred if it was a 450.
@nathanf1934
@nathanf1934 19 күн бұрын
If the DRZ doesn't have revised gear ratios, Honda won't have anything to worry about. So disappointing. If it was a 6 speed, id put a deposit down now. Will stick with the CRF300L until gear ratios are confirmed.
@Weltbummler23
@Weltbummler23 19 күн бұрын
Yup honda wasted a year to bring out the 350. 300 doesnt cut it on California highways, but a 350 could get by. Id take it over this drz if they could keep the weight at 310lbs.
@canadakidd3750
@canadakidd3750 17 күн бұрын
CRF300 is not nor has it ever been in the same category as a DRZ400. Show me how you adjust suspension. Your 100cc smaller engine has 5hp and 7lbs less in torque. Huge difference. Try Comparing the CRF300 to a comparable 300cc dual sport.
@Weltbummler23
@Weltbummler23 17 күн бұрын
@@canadakidd3750 totally agree based on the simple fact that i wouldnt take a crf300l on the long highway rides but i would take a properly geared drz400. Thats a huge difference in my book. But that doesnt mean that someone not using it for highway or ADV travel wouldnt want to keep it.
@nathanf1934
@nathanf1934 17 күн бұрын
@@canadakidd3750 I have modified suspension and big bore kit. Power figures are actually pretty close to the new DRZ. Plus the CRF300L is lighter. Power aside, I need that 6th gear. I've owned a drz400E and it didn't cut it on the freeway with only 5 gears.
@easydailytrades4205
@easydailytrades4205 20 күн бұрын
Gear spacing and ratios are far more important than the number of gears. The market is flooded with bikes offering 6 gears. However, 1st is that short it's almost unusable.
@Vanya-k9r
@Vanya-k9r 18 күн бұрын
Good content, thanks for the vid. I’ll back up another comment on this post, a mate of mine who is a Suzuki dealer said they will continue to run the old “E” model alongside the new versions. He sells them to a few farmers on big properties who don’t want the complexity of fuel injection, electronic aids etc. As for me I’d still buy an old one & the sixth gear doesn’t bother me. I’ve also got a vstrom that has long legs 👍
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 18 күн бұрын
@@Vanya-k9r thanks for the info mate. That’s good to hear the option of the simple E model will still be around for a little while yet.
@andyabik
@andyabik 20 күн бұрын
I think it's pretty cool. Not sold on the headlight.. but can take or leave it. Personally I went out and got a 2024 DRZ E model earlier this year as I wanted a brand new, completely analogue carb'd bike to keep forever. Won't be going for this one, but good on Suzuki for getting it done.
@williamrae9954
@williamrae9954 20 күн бұрын
Ripped off TM
@sic04250f
@sic04250f 20 күн бұрын
I'd be surprised if that headlight would pass ADR
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 20 күн бұрын
@@andyabik yea it’s nice to have a bike that doesn’t rely on all the fancy electronics!
@fastdude2002
@fastdude2002 16 күн бұрын
I’m keeping my 2020 DRZ as I’m very happy with it,
@andyabik
@andyabik 16 күн бұрын
@@fastdude2002 yeah they really are awesome bikes eh! I went from sports bikes to getting a dirtbike and a drz - couldnt be happier. Have a supermoto setup I can swap out when I want to ride that way - its just a simple but great little machine!
@dfxdarrell6734
@dfxdarrell6734 20 күн бұрын
Looks like the spark plug is now accessible on the side of the cylinder. I like it, no need to remove the tank anymore
@mt1885
@mt1885 20 күн бұрын
It has 2 spark plugs now
@DualSportDoug
@DualSportDoug 20 күн бұрын
Yep, two spark plugs. The other is still buried under the gas tank on top of the cylinder head.
@davewyatt1468
@davewyatt1468 20 күн бұрын
the fuel tank capacity being down 1.3 litres will not matter as the fuel injection will make this bike more efficient i brought a 2024 WR 450 it only had 7.4 litres of fuel in total it gets good range if ridden easy, and would far out ride my old carby KTM with 9.8 litres
@wakey356
@wakey356 19 күн бұрын
Cant make everything perfect for everyone, I think the biggest strength to this bike will be the broad appeal and the fully adjustable suspension.
@verbalwidget7267
@verbalwidget7267 6 күн бұрын
Why can’t they. People have been asking for a 6th speed for 20 years, why make it heavier and less power? Is that what you asked for?
@outonthetracks
@outonthetracks 20 күн бұрын
EFI, LED lights and hopefully a quieter exhaust are definitely good things but extra weight, smaller tank and no 6th gear make this an unlikely purchase from me. I'll keep my DRZed E (not zee, please) going for a while longer.
@andrew390
@andrew390 20 күн бұрын
I'm hoping for 2 things with the DR-Z4S: 1. the 5 speed gear ratio is wider 2. the ride-away price is ~$11,500 AUD and not closer to the current Honda CRF 450RL of $13,990 AUD ride-away. If the 2 points above come true, then I'll sell my current motorcycle buy one as my only bike.
@Mikebravo91
@Mikebravo91 20 күн бұрын
I got a feeling it's going to be about 15k
@spencerwarholik2904
@spencerwarholik2904 20 күн бұрын
I would guess it’s gonna be priced less than a 450rl. Less cc, the Honda is more of a competition bike that can have a plate. I see it being priced somewhere between the current drz price and the 450rl
@chrro466
@chrro466 15 күн бұрын
@@andrew390 probably $14k here in NZ
@MrTmax74
@MrTmax74 17 күн бұрын
Thanks for the vid. I'm sure it's going to come in considerably cheaper than the Honda. Trust me, they saved a ton of money by not having to come up with a whole new engine / transmission. That's why they didn't change the tranny. The Honda is a much lighter bike, which adds a lot of cost, and it's service intervals is much higher. To me the bikes are apples and oranges. I would say the closer comparison would be the CRF 300L. I think Suzuki is still going to sell the hell out of this.
@ronlawson5819
@ronlawson5819 17 күн бұрын
Love it super stoked for Suzuki stepping up for the hottest market
@Funco1979
@Funco1979 18 күн бұрын
It looks unreal. I love the look of it. The extra weight, no 6 speed wouldn't bother me. The headlight doesn't look bad IMO and there are worse looking headlights than this on recently released dirtbikes (some look like a microwave oven bolted to the front fender). BTW, they say its an all new engine.
@tumbleweed6612
@tumbleweed6612 19 күн бұрын
For europeans was this eicma a real fest! And this bike hits the nail with look weight and likely performance many in europe craved for.
@6226superhurricane
@6226superhurricane 20 күн бұрын
most of us Australians were aware any redesign on the drz would be the end of the E model and knew that would mean a heavier less powerful bike. it's a given that new road/trail bikes get heavier and bogged down with emissions gear to meet new regulations. so when we look at this bike you have to compare it to the s model which was already detuned and heavier than E model so it would meet emissions and regulations of overseas markets. that said the drz4s compares pretty favourably with the s model only being slightly heavier and slightly less powerful. rather than the E model which is significantly lighter and more powerful (13kg, 10hp) that said i do think the drz4s has the potential to make as much or more hp than the stock E model when a tune and exhaust becomes available. because it has the framework there to do so already, 42mm throttle body, bigger ports, bigger cam than s model. as you said the exhaust will be heavy and restrictive so an aftermarket exhaust will remove weight and increase power a lot. it's not all doom and gloom, it keeps the same crank and cylinder as the current drz's so there's a good chance current big bore and stroker kits will work with a drz4s specific piston. the suspension doesn't excite me personally upside down fork are more prone to leaks and damage but buyers are convinced they're better so i can see why suzuki wants to appeal to those people. but at least they didn't cheap out on it. fuel economy and range is supposed to be excellent so it probably only needs a 12l and 20l options rather than 17l and 28l. it's a shame the E model will be gone but 25yrs is a good run and i wouldn't ever be selling mine even if i did buy a drz4s.
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 20 күн бұрын
@@6226superhurricane all great points mate. Definitely not all doom and gloom. Hopefully the aftermarket options come through for the new model as well.
@6226superhurricane
@6226superhurricane 20 күн бұрын
@@_JoshJB_ it's a certainty the aftermarket will provide accessories, i expect these bikes will sell well in europe. suzuki itself might even have an "offroad only" tune or maybe we'll see they've provided a way to easily increase performance by unplugging a wire or something because that's been done by other manufacturers before.
@scamperstephen4811
@scamperstephen4811 Күн бұрын
Do you think the Safari fuel tank will fit on This model from my older DRZ E ? Also can a kick starter still be fitted as the older ones ? Mate
@michal7817
@michal7817 20 күн бұрын
Well I would be fine, if only new thing would be only a EFI. Right now when we will get LED light, driving modes (TC and ABS can be useful on wet road), still turning off TC and ABS is still na opction, new suspension I am just thrilled.
@_Brando_69
@_Brando_69 20 күн бұрын
I've got an 03 klx400 don't think I'll ever get rid of it. I'm gonna tear it all down here and make it like new again.
@quantumpeep866
@quantumpeep866 5 күн бұрын
I'm stoked, I don't like the headlight, same thing but square would be better, the aftermarket will smooth this bike right out. Don't need the 6th gear.
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 4 күн бұрын
@@quantumpeep866 agreed mate. I just hope it’s priced to sell well.
@canadakidd3750
@canadakidd3750 17 күн бұрын
So glad there are so many DRZ400's available on resale. Good luck with the new model. Cost of ownership will be 10 times that of a DRZ400. One dose of crap fuel can easily cost you $1000.00 if you repair it yourself. Before you buy fuel injected offroad bike go to parts department at dealer and ask how much for fuel filter and pump. Suzuki has a super reliable injector system but ALL injected bikes can be a huge pain when thing go sideways in remote locations. I own 6 Suzuki motorcycles, one 500 king Quad and a LT500 Quadzilla for the sand dunes. How are you going to get it going if you swamp it out in the middle of nowhere? Long push to town. Carburetors and fuel tanks are easily cleaned with basic tools. True offroad bikers know how to adjust suspension and tire pressure on a DRZ400 so there is 0 excuse for whining about a soft suspension. Instructions in owner's manual. I do not need nor will ever use ABS. Driving mode ?? I am not on some big pig of a bike like a 1200cc tank that you need a party of 5 to go adventure riding with. My driving mode is called a throttle, and I have all the scars to remind me of the years it took to hone my skills. Adventure dual sport to me is one person one machine. I want RELIABULTY not a bunch of sissified crap. 6 speed gear box is not going to make you a better rider...period. The new 2025 Z4S looks awesome and has many nice improvements. Smaller fuel tank than 400E that's a good thing, isn't it ? I would buy if Suzuki had options like a Smart Carb and Extended range fuel tank. Thats my today opinion......tomorrow I may buy it if I see it in person LOL :)
@alanjm1234
@alanjm1234 15 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, constantly tightening emissions laws are going to see carburettors disappear.
@easternyellowjacket276
@easternyellowjacket276 15 күн бұрын
FI's are everywhere, they are better and the technology is proven. It's that simple.
@chrro466
@chrro466 15 күн бұрын
@@canadakidd3750 my thoughts and experiences too. 🤙🏼
@firstamendmenttshirt4768
@firstamendmenttshirt4768 15 күн бұрын
@canadakidd3750 I can do 120 with a 6-speed on the street and 80 in the trees. Why don't I need 6 gears? Maybe sand needs 6 gears. Those hills slow you down with 5 gears. I go one extra to pass you. I could do it in 5 in sand. Dual sport? Lol.
@CollinMac96
@CollinMac96 10 күн бұрын
Efi rarely fails so stop with the what ifs
@superkai6483
@superkai6483 20 күн бұрын
I've owned two DRZs and this seems pretty nice, I've currently got a CRF300 Rally so Im not sure if it would be a good swap
@JohnnyBoy919
@JohnnyBoy919 20 күн бұрын
What are your thoughts on how the 2 bikes compare? Have you ridden the standard crf300l non rally?
@superkai6483
@superkai6483 20 күн бұрын
@@JohnnyBoy919 Haven't ridden the standard L. I got it mainly because I have to go on the motorway for a while to get to the dirt. The DRZ definitely has more power and I rejetted mine with the airbox mod and it made it quite a bit more powerful. I had a grom after the DRZ so when I sold that I wanted something a little different having owned two DRZs haha. The Rally is really nice, highway riding is just bearable so I'm interested to see what the new DRZ is like. I'm really bad offroad so my opinion probably doesn't mean anything in that aspect haha.
@JohnWoods-l5w
@JohnWoods-l5w 15 күн бұрын
Josh one of the pictures identifies new engine parts in yellow, a couple of the gears are yellow, does that mean 5 speed wide ratio?
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 14 күн бұрын
@@JohnWoods-l5w last I checked there was no confirmation from Suzuki if the ratio was any different. We will have to wait and see!
@BaldieRacing
@BaldieRacing 14 күн бұрын
In that pic where the new parts are yellow the 1st and 5th gears are not yellow so no wide ratio gear box coming.
@the_explorerist
@the_explorerist 20 күн бұрын
Two things I wonder about the riding modes. Can you switch modes on the fly and will it remember it when you turn your bike back on? It would be interesting to see if they have tweak gear ratios as well. A couple people have mentioned if they tweak the ratios it would quieten the 6 gear protagonists.
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 20 күн бұрын
@@the_explorerist I hope so mate, it’s so annoying when bikes switch abs back on when the bike goes off. But I think it’s a safety thing they all have to have. We will wait and see I guess.
@the_explorerist
@the_explorerist 20 күн бұрын
@@_JoshJB_ Not all bikes. IIRC the CFMOTO 450 remembers.
@stevesabandar8260
@stevesabandar8260 16 күн бұрын
I really like the look, and will have to see how it feels when it is at the dealer, might even trade the KTM690 for it, if the price is right. Good job Suzuki.
@jakewilliamson
@jakewilliamson 20 күн бұрын
i get why they've done it (would emissions also be a thing?) and it's great to see a progressive upgrade. more to go wrong? well certainly more complex controls etc come as a benefit/risk compromise... still love my 2017 model, it just ticks all the things i want (apart from that bloody seat 😲) and the 'look' is great as it reminds me of the bikes i had as a kid! so... big question: are you gonna get one?!
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 20 күн бұрын
@@jakewilliamson mate I will be getting on one as soon as possible. 😁
@goaliemojo4310
@goaliemojo4310 14 күн бұрын
Totally pissed (and presently pissed) that a sixth gear wasn't added. I consider my 2005 model (only owner) a whale in the dirt and would have liked a blubber reduction since I am gaining weight as I age. So darn, but still may sell my tricked out cherry version for a new one anyway, since my bike is reliable and really happy they dissed the carb.
@easternyellowjacket276
@easternyellowjacket276 15 күн бұрын
I wonder if these will be subjected to the tariffs being proposed in the US by next spring?
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 15 күн бұрын
@@easternyellowjacket276 🤷🏼‍♂️ shouldn’t matter too much here in Aus. We already get ripped with taxes 😂
@quadsquadgarage
@quadsquadgarage 19 күн бұрын
Honestly, everything sounds good about this bike except the weight. How hard is it to get a DS bike under 400cc's to weigh less than 130kg? Despite everyone complaining about various things about this bike, I think it's going to be hard to find one next year. I'm glad I waited for this to come out.
@easy4steve
@easy4steve 18 күн бұрын
good luck with that , ill stay on my KTM 690 enduro R , 74bhp ,6speed , 150kg wet. 13.5 litres fuel cap . enjoy guys . Steve/western Australia
@jamesnelson1484
@jamesnelson1484 4 күн бұрын
Nice review. If only they had added that elusive 6th gear, they could easily go another 20+ years without changing anything and have strong sales.
@andreacasula5109
@andreacasula5109 4 күн бұрын
Guys more or less, just an idea, how much euro and or US dollar will this super toy cost? Thank you and thanks to Suzuki
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 4 күн бұрын
@@andreacasula5109 I don’t even know how much it’s going to cost in Aus yet.
@AridersLifeYT
@AridersLifeYT 19 күн бұрын
if it come to australia, i will buy it, i loved my 400sm.
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 19 күн бұрын
@@AridersLifeYT it’s coming 😁
@1990-t1j
@1990-t1j 18 күн бұрын
I want the SM.
@MyToxicMasculinity
@MyToxicMasculinity Күн бұрын
"6th gear" It isn't a highway bike! It isn't an adventure bike. It is also very cheap. R&D and improvements for the sake of improvements is expensive. This bike was refreshed to meet emissions standards, not to improve the machine. Be happy you get the improvements that they did make.
@smokemagnet
@smokemagnet 19 күн бұрын
Not having a 6th gear is a truly deal breaker for me. I have a DRZ E and that was what I most wanted in a new model. How they missed out that 6th upgrade, for me, it's just baffling... Also, that smaller fuel tank, is quite ridiculous. At least they could have kept it a 10 liter tank (which was already quite small)... The rest of the upgrades, are just the today's standard, although I'm not very keen on too many electronics, but it's fine...
@3GingerCats
@3GingerCats 17 күн бұрын
I don't get Suzuki sometimes... all this stuff bringing it closer to the V-strom 250SX, getting things the 250SX Needs (like the switchable ABS, but not being as easy to ride on the highway or in twisties. Is Suzuki planning on giving the V-strom a 400 or preferably a 450Ptwin, and switchable ABS so it can be a better candidate for entry level ADVers than the 250SX and the V-strom 650? because If there one thing V-strom owners want, it's a direct competitor to the KTM, the CF moto and now BMW 450 ish ADV bikes. not something that's too incapable or too big and heavy to start on!
@williamrae9954
@williamrae9954 20 күн бұрын
Wait 1yr until the accessories appear...i want one,reliability is key,listening KTM?
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 20 күн бұрын
@@williamrae9954 yea mate, if the aftermarket scene jumps on board like the previous model it will be great. Comfier seat, bigger tank, luggage racks etc.
@Seeeeyaaaa
@Seeeeyaaaa 11 күн бұрын
Can't believe they added Injection yet didn't give it a 6th gear and made it heavier! Injection is a plus though if you can look past the other shortcomings. Think I'd rather buy the 450 Honda.
@dylb8801
@dylb8801 20 күн бұрын
Soon as I seem it released I was awaiting the drz man of Australia to do a video on it lol
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 20 күн бұрын
@@dylb8801 😂 I thought I better get something out there.
@Graeme-r2f
@Graeme-r2f 20 күн бұрын
Smaller fuel tank you say..... I do hope there's not some design issue in there precluding the installation of larger aftermarket tanks.
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 20 күн бұрын
@@Graeme-r2f aftermarket companies will find a way. 😁
@6226superhurricane
@6226superhurricane 20 күн бұрын
i doubt it, it has a twin spar frame now so it should be easy to put a bigger tank on. it would just drop straight between the frame rails.
@budget-adventure
@budget-adventure 19 күн бұрын
Is it super moto? I thought it meant super motard. I’m interested, I don’t mind the extra weight and put the right sprockets on it and 5 gears isn’t an issue. Time will tell what the reliability will be like, and I’m happy to wait 12 months for the issues to start showing if they do
@kyle1758
@kyle1758 19 күн бұрын
On an SM the extra weight definitely isn't that big of a deal. It's for the off road model that it matters. An extra 20 lbs is nothing to shrug at when it comes to an already heavy bike.
@budget-adventure
@budget-adventure 18 күн бұрын
@ you have plenty of options in the American market, it’s almost as heavy as a 650 so just get one of those
@shaunscully1173
@shaunscully1173 20 күн бұрын
Think ill keep my 2020model at this stage and see how this one is priced and goes..
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 20 күн бұрын
@@shaunscully1173 yea price will play a big part !
@blazenamber9176
@blazenamber9176 13 күн бұрын
Was hoping for the 6 speed as well.
@davehurst3136
@davehurst3136 20 күн бұрын
Having never riden a DRZ what is like on the highway? I have a WR250R with 13/47 and it's ok at 90/100ks if you need to do it
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 20 күн бұрын
@@davehurst3136 change the gearing on the DRZ and it’s fine. 15-44 is usually the go to for 100-110kms comfortably.
@stevesnee778
@stevesnee778 16 күн бұрын
Looks awesome!
@DR650adventures
@DR650adventures 20 күн бұрын
Will be interesting that’s for sure…👍
@cheabosscray1650
@cheabosscray1650 16 күн бұрын
Looks awesome. I want to get that headlight and attach it to my DR lol.
@alanwright9112
@alanwright9112 20 күн бұрын
Would like a rally version
@Artem.GermanLux
@Artem.GermanLux 19 күн бұрын
I visited dealer in Belgium and they said the price will be 10k € - deal breaker for me. I would better go for something more lighter or Honda CRF300L for 6k
@Roadstaryoung
@Roadstaryoung 17 күн бұрын
Well, if anyone’s like me, I just buy the bike just for the bush that’s it. I don’t wanna spend any time on the road except for riding from my place to the bush. Simple as that I think the Cadillac converter is putting a lot of weight on the bike and my only concern is what happens when you take it off and put a performance pipe on you know you’ll have to get it re-tuned or whatever they do to the fuel injection stuff I prefer the carbie,you can push up then if the battery goes flat I don’t know. Bugger all about the fuel injection because I’m from the old generation so I don’t know if you can push Star then but I don’t think you can because I know my car is useless once the battery goes flat but yeah, the price is gonna be the big selling point. It was all the crap they’ve put on it. It’s gonna have to go up the way. I look at it less things on a bike. The less things can go wrong and that’s why the old Suzuki DRZ has been around for so long because it’s basic and simple. Just how I like it. It’s a pity they took the D6 50 off the roadbut what can you do?
@panic_diver
@panic_diver 20 күн бұрын
Its competition is crf300, klx, and the new ktm 390 adv and enduro. Crf 450 and ktm 500 are in a league of their own, maximum performance with short service intervals.
@jakeviolet2195
@jakeviolet2195 20 күн бұрын
IF the new KTM 390 is reliable, then it's gonna eat the DRZ's lunch. 45 hp vs 38. 6 speed vs. 5 speed. Looks way better. The only question is the reliability.
@stewartdawes617
@stewartdawes617 20 күн бұрын
@jakeviolet2195 this is my point 👉
@KeepItSimpleSailor
@KeepItSimpleSailor 20 күн бұрын
It needed that sixth gear for distance riding - not really much point in the new model without it.
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 20 күн бұрын
@@KeepItSimpleSailor change the gearing and it’ll be fine. Just like I’ve done on the current model.
@leanit5756
@leanit5756 17 күн бұрын
I think KTM is going to sell a lot of the new 390 Enduros.
@Xt1000
@Xt1000 19 күн бұрын
No sixth gear no $ from me. Here's to hoping for a Japanese 400-450 dual sport with efi, 6 gears and long service intervals.
@bodystunt1
@bodystunt1 13 күн бұрын
Nice job Suzuki.
@craigduffield3963
@craigduffield3963 19 күн бұрын
Lost me with the upside down forks,one of the appeals of the DRZ was its simple low maintenance design.Its heavier with a smaller fuel tank,not seeing too many good things apart from its looks.
@johnnyofast5924
@johnnyofast5924 18 күн бұрын
No 6th gear is a major fail in my opinion. almost 20 extra lbs is bogus, they made no effort to make this bike lighter, just added components. Im glad they made improvements and thank god for FI, i never want to mess with another FCR again. but i think the KTM is much more appealing, if they are even close in price im going to austria (or india or wherever they build it)
@aarondavis9044
@aarondavis9044 19 күн бұрын
Hopefully yamaha fire back with a wr350 or 450r 👌
@derweibhai
@derweibhai 18 күн бұрын
Dual sport xr650r with no weight increase.
@cyclopathic998
@cyclopathic998 19 күн бұрын
Don't get too excited. It still has the same narrow band 5 speed transmission, which will buzz your tooth fillings out at highway speeds
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 19 күн бұрын
@@cyclopathic998 check out my other videos. I’ve ridden my current model on some big adventures. Change the sprockets for a better cruising speed 🤙🏼
@Ian-je9cf
@Ian-je9cf 20 күн бұрын
it needs to be $10,000 or under if its the same price or close to of the crf450 id just get the faster lighter crf450
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 20 күн бұрын
@@Ian-je9cf crf450rl has short service intervals. DR-Z4S hopefully will still have long intervals 😁
@dandersonjr
@dandersonjr 18 күн бұрын
Maybe people could wait till it comes out and ride it before they start complaining about it.
@MRLazaruslazz
@MRLazaruslazz 18 күн бұрын
I just hope the injection doesn’t take away from the reliability
@_JoshJB_
@_JoshJB_ 18 күн бұрын
@@MRLazaruslazz time will tell!
@dk.650
@dk.650 15 күн бұрын
6th gear, larger tank and a Lectron carb would be better. The rest looks good.
@davidfindlay5432
@davidfindlay5432 19 күн бұрын
So......Japanese. I'm sure they'll sell a bunch, but it just lacks that ethos that the Euro's have, and that's a bit of courage. Bold new plastics, 10 KG heavier and still a 5 speed, which everyone says is fine, until you use a 6 speed. I'd say it only has fuel injection so it can scrape through emissions testing. Reminds of the "All new" KLR of a few years ago, promised a bit, and fell flat. 2 out of 5 stars........
@jamesmorrison1619
@jamesmorrison1619 19 күн бұрын
Oh. A smaller fuel tank. That's disappointing... Safari to the rescue. Suzuki Australia should definitely let Josh give the bike an honest thrashing and review.
@joke4301
@joke4301 20 күн бұрын
Wow there goes me buying my dream bike next year new 😢
@sudenrajbhandari9158
@sudenrajbhandari9158 12 күн бұрын
love this bike. but cant have in Nepal
@ogasi1798
@ogasi1798 20 күн бұрын
yes, it will be cool for us who couldn't get it new for over 15 years, THIS IS THE POINT - if you dont like it buy the old one and stop yer moaning
@jakeviolet2195
@jakeviolet2195 20 күн бұрын
So now we have a choice between a 25 year old medicore dual sport and a brand new mediocre dual sport? Option C, which was a new AND IMPROVED version of the DRZ, was what everybody really wanted. Same gripe people had with the new KLR. The Japanese have gotten really lazy lately.
@6226superhurricane
@6226superhurricane 20 күн бұрын
@@jakeviolet2195 the drz400e has been the best road trail bike on the market for 25yrs bar none.
@Macgregor_images
@Macgregor_images 18 күн бұрын
😢 same power, 10 kg heavier, 5 speed bix, underwhelming compared to the competition, which is quickly growing...
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