The New UM870 Slim, A FAST Budget Friendly AMD Mini PC That Can Game!

[@davidboyd1617]

Got one on Amazon a couple of weeks ago with a $110 off coupon with 32gb and a 1TB M.2 drive and I love it -- super quiet and quite fast for such a little thing. Getting 50+ FPS playing Diablo Resurrected at 4K with 50% scaling and it looks fantastic. Initially was going to get the 760 slim but opted for this because the 760 was only offered with 16gb and had the lesser 760m graphics.

[@irvinekinny]

'scuse me, what's the point of 4K + 50%

[@4evrplan]

​@irvinekinny Either way, it gets upscaled to native, either by the game or by the monitor, but perhaps the in-game scaling algorithm looks better than the one in the monitor? I think most monitors use bilinear scaling, which is fast but low quality. The in-game scaling? Who knows?

[@irvinekinny]

@@4evrplan I mean, If your hardware can't render at 100% - what's the point of upscaling? It won't make the game better, or am I missing some idea?

[@4evrplan]

@irvinekinny Yes, it could make the game better *if* it uses a higher quality scaling algorithm than the one in the monitor. DLSS/FSR/XESS/IGTI/etc > bilinear. Not as good as native but better than upscaled by bilinear.

[@c01nd01r]

It's good that they have added the second M2 (PCIe4.0x4) slot. You can connect a graphics card.

[@bovineox1111]

Is that going to be quarter speed then? Will we get full speed from an external GPU?

[@mug786]

OP, please consider adding llama.cpp benchmarks in future tests. LLM workloads are bound by memory bandwidth on x86, would be interesting to track the market address this over time. some say lpddr5x 7500 is not terrible, there's a lot of hope for strix halo too. those are related to mini PCs, so it might be a good fit for the channel?

[@kyleheaser2385]

Really appreciate the superimposed results from the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370.

[@toxiccan175]

Could you test it with Bazzite? I’d love to see its performance as a mini Steam console!

[@Skulltap]

I'd like to see this too...partly because I just did this last night and the wifi isn't showing up 0_o

[@prince_rakeems_retro_gaming]

Would love to see how PS3 and 360 perform on this in Batocera!

[@MattressFinancialLmtd]

Man, I would really love it if you would show native performance. It's insane to me that only certain games get tested at native resolution. Using FSR does not demonstrate the actual performance of the computer.

[@ericliume]

while, more and more, FSR + FG is an industry standard.

​@@ericliumeNot relevant to benchmarking.

[@Saif0412]

Consoles like PS5 and Series X need upscaling to get respectable performance but on PC we must have native performance? Your pretty much never going to run AAA games without upscaling nowadays unless you have a seriously overpowered GPU.

[@ericliume]

It is the reality nowadays how games are played. So it is relevant.

[@BradJohannsen]

I 1000% agree. Stop it with the upscaling bs.

[@RichmondAdu-p7w]

"we've got a small form factor" ETA prime when he sees small device 😊

[@bhxlegend]

@@RichmondAdu-p7w lol

[@ghostfreckle]

Should we tell him? 🤔

[@flemtone]

Amazing little mini pc, stick Kubuntu 25.04 daily on that thing and run a wayland session to see how it performs.

[@ivanalbertoariasgalvis9257]

I would like to see emulation performance review for this machine.

[@otgeos]

Quite literally learned of its existence just yesterday and was hoping he would make this and, well, impressive coincidence.

[@GamzPC]

Temperatures are still high in such devices, which causes a decrease in the performance of the central processor. Cooling efficiency must be increased, even if it is at the expense of increasing the size of the device.

[@ranjitmandal1612]

Not for these chips they are perfectly fine

[@DoodleDan]

​@@ranjitmandal1612 it's not just the cpu that generates heat

[@ranjitmandal1612]

@@DoodleDan what else in that system generate heat the highest?

[@Wynner3]

I never expected to buy one of the mini pc's you showed off until now. I am buying this version for my Aunt for Christmas. Should be vastly superior to her dual core machine. 😁

[@layol692k7]

I just picked this up on amazon for 311$ I am glad i did also picked up 53 gb of ram and a nvme ssd. I can not wait to try it out

[@imglidinhere]

I got the UM680M. Older hardware, but it's perfect for emulation and such. :)

[@bovineox1111]

Comparing to um890 pro would be pretty interesting for gaming performance This was a timely review though as I was eyeing this and slightly put off by the possibly poor thermals and lower gpu clock but seems fine especially for the low ££££

[@bhxlegend]

Finnally bro's not referring every pc he unbox "the best" lol

[@umirza]

You mean bezt

[@ShelbyGT5OO]

😂😂😂

[@user-dg9hk6oi4s]

it would be awesome if you started to show cs2 as one of your bench marked games

[@jerrysmart5010]

I legit just got this Mini PC today! It's got like a £100 off coupon. It came to just £430 which is a crazy good deal given it's got 32tb and 1TB Storage. Not seen anything else cheaper. I'm just tired of having a big gaming PC when I don't game that heavy, but I want enough horse power that when I do want to game, it will do nicely! I know this will play Resident Evil 2 Remake really nice at 1080p

[@fortifyve]

How has it been for you so far?

[@전유현-l7x]

I guess having great thermals is a running theme for minisforum? I'd really love to see a next gen minisforum v3 in the future, though I did see rumours that the new AMD chips are more expensive.

[@morrisokoe6626]

Hi, can this run Euro truck simulator 2? Great video by the way

[@hasnomoney1800]

I might be tripping but your intro for this video is different then the others, you open up with an “hey” instead of “what’s going on everybody”. This is what my 5am brain is doing right now 😮

[@ibUscher]

I would really like to see the actual power consumption if configured for lower TDP. Especially interessted in the lowest, 15W, setting.

[@mmdragon3722]

Is the Miniforum UM870 Slim case made of plastic or aluminium? Can this MiniPc power a USB4 display with 30 watts of energy and have no problems with compatibility, drivers etc?

[@magfal]

Looking forward to trying out this game with working a-life 2.0 on my 64GB HX370 GPD Pocket 4

[@gdjaybee742]

Plex should venture into mini servers bases on these form factor. Imagine these devices having 2, 3, or 4 3.5" drive cages drawer style. It would be smaller than the size of a NAS box, but with more powerful CPU and GPU. I bet you there's a market for this. These things are so powerful or powerful enough to handle Plex servers, or large file applications such as video editing.

[@marstedt]

Price?

[@stephenclark9917]

Did you watch the video?

[@c01nd01r]

$529.00 USD with 32GB/1 TB SSD

[@sklynexd]

Actually you can get up to 16TB on both M.2 drives. They make 8TB versions. Also even it is faster in pure power than my 5800X3D, it is no match for it in gaming due to 3D cache

[@danilocristobal2043]

Hello! Would you be able to make a video with a comaptible/optimal external GPU connected to it? Looking to get one of these w/ eGPU and a portable montior since im travelling a lot. Thank you and I love your videos!

[@shokama]

Would be nice to see how a discreet GPU works with USB4. Got a similar device from Minisforum (only the CPU is different, I think), but it won't arrive until Nov 30 the earliest.

[@AnotherGuyPT]

If not for gaming, would the base model Mac Mini M4 be a better deal in terms of its performance?

[@Ishiiru6884]

I just wanted to know real quick, can you play Warzone on this one? Just a little doubt.

[@skxlper]

Can you try fortnite on performance mode all low settings?

[@jozsefacs2224]

Is there a possibility to push the tdp even further (like 80/100 watts) and maybe oc these cpus? Would make a nice project haha

[@_richbee]

Thanks for including Fortnite. Would love if you could include 1440p as well.

[@Skulltap]

I'd love to see/hear about how well this thing would work hooked up to a large TV or VR while using Steam Link. On paper it should be great, especially if both computers are hard line networked but no one seems to say much on this type of setup. I'm especially interested in doing this with Linux due to some of the issues I have been seeing with Windows lately.

[@Anonymous1337PenguinWin9xCIH]

Hey bro, if i understand you correctly, it doesnt matter much about the device thats linked to your tv, that recieves the stream via steamlink other than wifi capability, the device you connect to through steamlink needs the horsepower. I use a steamdeck that is docked to an old 60inch 1080p tv through hdmi, i connect to my pc downstairs (i513600k/4070ti) the steamdeck uses wifi and the pc is using ethernet and theres zero problems however this is a linux to windows steamlink as i dont want to move to linux on my gaming rig yet. i ordered one of these um870's direct from minisforum so itll likely take ages but as an avid vr sim racer without even testing i already know it wont be a pleasant experience on the mini pc, its a 1080p low / retro box that can behave like any toher PC theyre new, power efficient and exciting, nothin more than a boys toy, buy yourself a steam deck and dock for less used and enjoy being able to just pick it up out of the dock as a bonus. if all you wanna do is stream from your main pc any old device with wifi 5+ will be fine providing your router isnt too bad.

[@Skulltap]

@@Anonymous1337PenguinWin9xCIH Honestly, I fully expect that you are 100% correct in all of the use cases I can think of too! I have used my Steam Deck with Steam Link many times, but never docked to a large TV. The main overhead for the local/client system comes from the OS and networking, with a sprinkle of transcoding in the mix. The main question I have is how much additional overhead is added with VR via Steam Link in the mix. The main limiting factor for this on the Steam Deck is the single USB 3 gen 2 port. Technically it can support up to 10Gbit/s, but real world speeds are often much lower especially when multiple devices are connected to that one port. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Steam Deck could handle both of these scenarios just fine. I just thought it would be nice to see some content that actually addresses it since no one really talks about it. Especially for those less tech savvy ;) I mainly added the TV part as I was thinking VR alone might not be enough content for a video and is related enough to make sense. I suppose a video on how low spec can you go and still run VR via Steam Link could be interesting too. With all that said, I suppose I have everything I would need to test it out myself... I'm sure ETA would make a more interesting video than I could on it though. Besides, I have a face for radio and a mind that makes squirrels seem focused :D

[@Skulltap]

@@Anonymous1337PenguinWin9xCIH That's a great point, and I have used my Steam Deck with Steam Link many times! My main rig is set up with a 5800X and 3080, so its been flawless when playing directly on the Steam Deck. With that said, I haven't actually tried Steam Link with my Steam Deck docked to a 65" 4k TV. The main overhead with Steam Link comes from the OS + networking + a dash of transcoding. As such, there really isn't much of a concern in just outputting to a display. The question I have comes from how much additional overhead is added with VR. I suppose one of the reasons there isn't a lot of content on it is due to the number of complexities involved. Between how the VR headset is connected (USB, DP, HDMI, etc) and networking (wifi vs ethernet), along with the variability of these, its probably a big factor in why there is so little content around it. The Steam Deck might be able to handle VR via Steam Link, but the main limiting factor is probably going to be the single USB 3 gen 2 port. It can technically hit 10Gbit/s, but real world throughput gets all over the place once there is a dock and likely multiple things connected. While a good WiFi setup should probably be fine, it would still be nice to have it connected via ethernet to minimize any latency and/or WiFi hiccups. Both of these are less than fun with timing based games such as Beat Saber.

[@Skulltap]

​@@Anonymous1337PenguinWin9xCIH Not sure what happened to my reply, but the short version is that you have a good point. Valve has done some amazing work with Steam Link and I have used it several times on my Steam Deck, but never docked to a 4k TV. Generally speaking, the overhead on Steam Link really comes from the OS, networking, and a dash of transcoding. Its that overhead that I'm most interested in, especially when running VR out of a mini pc client through Steam Link. The main plus side of having to retype this reply is that I ended up ordering one and installed Bazzite on it just last night. The only issue I have run into so far is that the Wifi doesn't seem to be working. The best I can tell is that Linux and MediaTek chips don't get along well

[@Skulltap]

@@Anonymous1337PenguinWin9xCIH Not sure what happened to my reply, but the short version is that you have a good point. In fact, I have used Steam Link on my deck several times to play games from my main rig (5800x with a 3080). I know the overhead on Steam Link is pretty low, but I'm interested in seeing how much VR running through it might change that. I did end up ordering one of these and installed bazzite when it came in last night. Sadly, these come with a MediaTek chip that doesn't seem to play nicely with Linux. The plus side is that it can be swapped for a different chip and the ethernet works fine.

[@D3N2W]

Is it possible to connect an external GPU to this?

[@Slicomful]

can you do full(at least more deep) teardown of this devices? And why no cyberpunk this time?

[@TaylorABell]

Listen, I know your channel is just a glorified commercial for the product you are "reviewing" but I wish you could do a more long term or semi long term or basically your view of the product after using it for a short period of time (a week of use would be nice). You are basically getting products shipped, unboxing and recording. Only giving us good points, no negatives on any of these products. I'm sure you are enticed. Probably making hundreds of thousands on affiliate links and collaborations. I get it and it probably won't change...

[@rexonpadre864]

DO NOT WATCH HERE! This is an advertisement channel! Only good points and no negatives or long term issues. Minisforum has lower quality than Beelink

[@TaylorABell]

@rexonpadre864 took the words right outta my mouth. I just said it a little nicer 😅 best believe I was thinking what you said. LoL

[@rexonpadre4653]

@@TaylorABell its true bro. I unsubscribed i still watch sometimes here to see atuff

[@TaylorABell]

@@rexonpadre4653 Me too!

[@ColinPatrickWeiss]

heads up on these reviews, it was so hard to get really good non gaming video editing focused reviews of these. I ended up getting the UM890 pro with 96gb ram and 4TB HD. it's so amazing. my dream computer. so small, so quiet, whisper quiet, ZERO heat, amazing wifi/bluetooth, speed, and it can handle 4k video almost perfectly. These machines are amazing. I know minisforum is very new and has some quality control issues, but I gotta say as someone who got a good batch, i adore this company. literally 1/3 of the cost of a mac mini m4 with LESSER specs and it can handle all my HEAVE video editing and music production tasks.

[@kemal3037]

can you add dota 2 in your game test?

[@BravoSixGoingDark]

ETA PRIME, please to do a follow up video, *''All Your Favorite High-End Emus With Arrow Lake's Desktop Alchemist iGPU with 4XE Cores.*

[@ericheiselman582]

I believe 890M was said multiple times instead of 780M

[@elecovanrenss1352]

how is emulation on this mini pc?

[@Brian_Life]

Thanks for showing Fortnite performance!

[@williamlaprarie3007]

Need one with the 890m

[@Rosameliazhere]

Can you please test if it can run using power input from the USB C port?

[@user-zn1db9fe5w]

We need to switch architecture from x86 to arm cus this temps and voltage as soon as possible.

[@JosephpaulMarbas]

Good day. Sir dota 2 can play that mini pc?

[@AresHeartbreaKid]

He never includes it, not even a demo or in game stream of other playing when these are the IDEAL PC's to test such a game on

[@NNJ-x5f]

Can I replace WiFi card with NVME SSD, if I am OK to use Ethernet port for network connection? What WiFi card is on the machine?

[@ranjitmandal1612]

Very nice 🙂

[@techmaska]

How is the qifi signal compared to beelink ser8?

[@RobinKey18]

I’m know the game isn’t out yet, but could this run Marvel Rivals?

[@kabanchyk5661]

Can you show stalker 2 in your test's please?

[@Volidon]

Is it an intel or realtek 2.5gb network card? same question for wifi card

[@aldrichsalazar9428]

I just bought mine, my display port doesn't work. Wonder if it works on yours? Please help😢

[@michaelmirrorcle9779]

This is kinda sick.

[@karlgreene2177]

Can you show Horizon Zero Dawn playing on this please?

[@hyperpopmonarch]

Is this the most powerful mini gaming pc under 1000$ ?

[@behappybevegan]

Looks like the wifi, MediaTek MT7902, is not yet supported by the linux kernel.

[@Stoiny]

can you add Honkai Star Rail in your test also please

[@Dream_Night]

hay alguno con raytracing?¿

[@johnosam4681]

Is this hdcp compliant?

[@mooretyler]

If my monitor has USB c power delivery will this work with one cord?

[@zeus1117]

Still miles away from M4

[@bovineox1111]

Support for occulink?

[@bovineox1111]

£425 ish atm (BF2024) with 32GB and 1TB

[@jamesdsixl4823]

Does the usb4 port support display out?

[@lyianx]

The spec sheet on its site lists the USB4 as one of the Video outputs, so it looks like yes.

[@bigdeagle1331]

Compare this to newer consoles

[@ptobiash]

Yes

[@reloveutioneast]

please add counter strike 2 to your tests

[@lyianx]

You kidding? If it can run all the games he showed, it will easily run Counter Strike.

[@StilosPayzzz]

Apex? BO6? Grand theft Auto? New vids?

[@um690s]

так это же примерно тоже что и 8840hs :но за дороже ,зачем его назвали 890 ели в нем нет 890m?

[@MysticCaravan]

lacking usb-c ports. 1 is not enough.

[@VolodymyrMoon]

How it will run Stalker 2?

[@iansavage6560]

lol

[@davidepannone6021]

@@VolodymyrMoon 420 fps 4k native

[@VolodymyrMoon]

@@davidepannone6021 worth buying then ;)

[@lubossoltes321]

"Remember this is set at 54W..." when showing temps while showing 65W sustained on CPU stress test ... erm ... really ? Which one is it then ?

[@jj-icejoe6642]

He’s just a big liar

[@DaveRyder-po4gq]

I’d like to see the Linux version stop using windows @ Win7…

[@AresHeartbreaKid]

Dota 2 demo please.

[@ele.zer0696]

Awesome

[@ColinPatrickWeiss]

that power brick SUCKS. the um890 has a much smaller external power source. I hate these mini PC with external power brick the same size as the PC, that is one big advantage of mac mini it has that internal power source. but the um890 size is GREAt. I got 2 and I just keep each my home and office so when I travel I just need to bring the PC and no power source and Just hook it up where i go.

[@dazealex]

how does. this run genshin impact?

[@jj-icejoe6642]

Big marketing !

[@pataplan]

Nice review but I'm curious to know how well this would run a LLM compared with the Ryzen AI 9 hx 370, especially considering that this can pack up to 96GB RAM.

[@cschwacofer]

This must be trolling.

[@pataplan]

@@cschwacofer Not at all, why do you think that?

[@almarketing2849]

i miss the rainy intro

[@Garstonk]

60fps👍

[@JayzBeerz]

Why buy this when the 890M graphics are out?

[@mickaelb3382]

1. Price my Friend. 2. Better to buy that and wait for ai 390 max + for 2x perfs or stick with a 890m ? It's the real question here.

[@VadimSemjonov]

On Amazon price is near 500$ its almost like new Mac Mini M4, so no chance for this crap. Mac much better, in benchmark its better then i9 and geforce 3060. um870 really overpriced.

[@thesoulmindspirit]

i would love to see ps3 running on this

[@secretlee7957]

What is it?...in English 💡

[@faizannabi7540]

Minisforum charges too high in comparison to competitors like Gmkteck and others for the same thing and thats why I'll not buy it.

[@SeanSR]

Budget friendly? Bahahahahahahaha!

[@Crustenscharbap]

It costs almost 200€ more than Apples M4 Mac Mini in Germany. But tthe UM 760 Slim is only 360€. This is interesting. It also has a AI engine.

[@kilouno1963]

I ONLY NEED TO KNOW ONE THING CAN I RUN DIABLO 2 RESURRECT WHIT NO PROBLEMS ON THIS MACHINE .AND WATCH MOVIES IN 4K

[@mickaelb3382]

For me i don't go with this for d2r. It's little be risky. D2R ask more power than Diablo 4. if you buy a "ser9" beelink with ryzen ai hx, it's will be far enough for 1080p medium at 60 FPS. But : PoE2 is coming, since it's the true Diablo 3 we hoping then... If you really want just play at d2r : go for ser9. If you want play at the both and more of course, wait for Ryzen ai+ max.

[@TheReferrer72]

With the rate of improvements of these APUI's discreet GPU's will die a death.

[@otcitex]

Day 31 of asking for a gamesir g8 galileo

[@kevinkev1530]

👍🏾

[@patrickcadette]

😁😁😁👍👍👍

[@anonytuser711]

These mini computers need more Occulink in case their iGPU doesn't have enough horse power.

[@willwatson3614]

Linux

[@avalagum7957]

It's not budget.