The New Vegas Strip's Development & Cut Content

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Episode 41 of FNV: The Cutting Room Floor. An indepth investigation into the cut content, design and development of Fallout New Vegas. In this episode we take a look at the cut content and development of Mr. House, The Strip, The casinos, The Tops, Gommorah, Ultraluxe, Vault 21, LVB Station, The Lucky 38, NCR Embassy, Freeside and more. This documentary includes excerpts from interviews with several key members of Obsidian's development team, involving Project Lead Josh Sawyer, Creative Director Chris Avellone, Lead Producer Jason Bergman, as well as Area Designers JR Vosvic, Jorge Salgado and Charlie Staples.
#fallout, #newvegas, #newvegascutcontent,

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@TriangleCity
@TriangleCity 4 жыл бұрын
There's somehow even more I could've talked about, but this video was already the single most difficult and time consuming art project I've ever put together. I started writing this video almost two years ago to replace the Mr House episode. That video had quite a few editing errors, missing information and I conducted additional interviews with the developers after its release. In the end, it was difficult to separate the Strip's cut content from Mr. House's cut content, and as a result, this script was 8000+ words and required extensive research to do it justice. Huge thank you to Obsidian for making FNV, my Patreon supporters, everyone who's watched, commented on or shared my videos, New Vegas's amazing modding community and those who have inspired me to continue making this series. I stayed up all night finishing this, so I'ma go pass out now 😴
@MrChadsimoneaux
@MrChadsimoneaux 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Can't wait to watch, thanks for putting in all the work!
@stan2429
@stan2429 4 жыл бұрын
You're the GOAT
@cocknballtorture777
@cocknballtorture777 4 жыл бұрын
Sleep well you magnificent bastard :D
@nathanlevesque7812
@nathanlevesque7812 4 жыл бұрын
I'm probably going to watch this like five times this week lol
@johnh7593
@johnh7593 4 жыл бұрын
@MrHeadSet1
@MrHeadSet1 4 жыл бұрын
i swear, if they every make a fallout new vegas remastered with new technology and all the cut content, ohhhhh, best game of the year easy.
@Einar730
@Einar730 4 жыл бұрын
No , Cuz if it happen, it will be Bethesda making the remake , so instead of adding the cut content there will be more cut content , no skills, stripped dialogue etc
@mrdaym
@mrdaym 4 жыл бұрын
@@Einar730 But in this scenario, in our dreams, obsidian comes back. Please don't ruin this for me.
@gabrielmcguoirk6106
@gabrielmcguoirk6106 4 жыл бұрын
What new technology? Bethesda has been using the same engine since the dinosaurs
@LuvodicusMycaelis
@LuvodicusMycaelis 4 жыл бұрын
PC my friend. Jsawyer mods and NV Uncut mods
@jacobhempfner1008
@jacobhempfner1008 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrdaym they won't bring them back, they showed them they could make a better game. With less money, time, resources. It would "hurt there imagine" also add paid "mods" if u want a true remastered mod the fuck out of it on pc.
@Raven-Blackwing
@Raven-Blackwing 4 жыл бұрын
NV could have been so much more if only they had more time.
@doc5686
@doc5686 4 жыл бұрын
And the final product was still amazing even with the endless cuts
@deathslide8
@deathslide8 4 жыл бұрын
And didn't have to put it onto a console.
@jacksonelh
@jacksonelh 4 жыл бұрын
for real man. it actually bums me out because they picked that development time. they probably could've picked longer. what's done is done I guess. bummer
@jacksonelh
@jacksonelh 4 жыл бұрын
they signed a contract to develop the game in that time. it wasn't like they signed the contract and then that development window was thrust on them after the fact. that was the time they agreed upon because they thought they could do it in that time due to the pre-existing assets and engine. they later discovered it was too short. perhaps they could've negotiated for longer.
@jacksonelh
@jacksonelh 4 жыл бұрын
@Jared Moreno I'm saying they settled on that short development time, and that I wish they'd have negotiated for a longer timeframe.
@bioemiliano
@bioemiliano 3 жыл бұрын
It always bugged me how the strip is said to be pristine, but it and so many new buildings that should be in good condition are completely torn apart.
@Jiub_SN
@Jiub_SN Жыл бұрын
Well comparatively it is pristine. I think the original intent would've looked far nicer, but I also understand the limitations and story changes made it necessary. House was asleep for like 100 years after all and had only awakened relatively recently
@anthony923
@anthony923 4 жыл бұрын
Yo at 46:45 I always thought the massive army of robots starting up in sync would make the ground shake a little bit and maybe a bit of a bang, never made me question it.
@TriangleCity
@TriangleCity 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, I didn't question it until I found that cut objective.
@SamCrecco1
@SamCrecco1 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was a kid and I got the quest from Emily, I never did it because I thought if I did, House would have me banned from The Strip or I would be shoot on sight.
@anueutsuho7425
@anueutsuho7425 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently if you tell Mr House you plan on doing it, not only does he not punish you, he dares you to do it.
@VideoGameSophistry
@VideoGameSophistry 4 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely incredible - I wonder if you could use this same research strategy for other projects and games? Amazing
@commentator4ever498
@commentator4ever498 3 жыл бұрын
Just one more, stop using your intro, It’s very time consuming
@thefinger1776
@thefinger1776 3 жыл бұрын
@@commentator4ever498 What do you mean? VGS' intro is pretty short and chill.
@lumps17
@lumps17 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefinger1776 Yeah, that's a part of the appeal. I don't know what rustled his jimmies about a 5 second intro.
@Warmaker01
@Warmaker01 4 жыл бұрын
I still remember entering "The Strip" years ago and feeling so disappointed.
@ptolomaios4118
@ptolomaios4118 3 жыл бұрын
It still amazes me how the team made such an amazing and deep game in just 18 months
@Vienna3080
@Vienna3080 4 жыл бұрын
I really hope Fallout 4 NV will re add all this awesome cut content
@drewinsur7321
@drewinsur7321 4 жыл бұрын
True, one day... one day. There will be a great NV remaster... one day.
@wisemankugelmemicus1701
@wisemankugelmemicus1701 4 жыл бұрын
@@drewinsur7321 Fallout 3 and Fallout NV can't be remastered.
@CopeAndSeeth
@CopeAndSeeth 4 жыл бұрын
@@wisemankugelmemicus1701 why
@wisemankugelmemicus1701
@wisemankugelmemicus1701 4 жыл бұрын
@@CopeAndSeeth Because surprisingly, Bethesda has actually updated its engine since Morrowind and Fallout 3 and New Vegas' various mechanics have to be remade from scratch. The only thing that can be ported from Fallout 3 and New Vegas is the world space. Believe it or not random gaming youtubers don't know what they're talking about it when they say Bethesda has never updated their game engine.
@ozricaurora6943
@ozricaurora6943 4 жыл бұрын
@@wisemankugelmemicus1701 new Vegas was basically a carbon copy of fallout 3 with a different story
@rjd-kh8et
@rjd-kh8et Жыл бұрын
You still get the key to The Tops High Roller suite after winning 7500 chips. I assume Clanden's arrest was disabled because according to Ambassador Crocker, the NCR MPs only have jurisdiction over NCR troops as part of the NCR's treaty with Mr. House.
@BayAreaUAV
@BayAreaUAV 4 жыл бұрын
Would have watched when it dropped yesterday, but I was crossing the Salt Flats, leaving out of Wendover. Was up at BIG MT last month. Love your channel dude!
@ilovecody7514
@ilovecody7514 4 жыл бұрын
This video is masterful, there was way more cut content here than even I was aware of. Great work!!!
@tntsummers926
@tntsummers926 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, I'm always glad when you update!
@sturdytheegg1221
@sturdytheegg1221 4 жыл бұрын
What does New Vegas have in common with newton, Einstein, and Darwin? They’re born premature but still genius.
@nonyobusiness5785
@nonyobusiness5785 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao when you said “and the other npcs the player can fuck” I literally played it back cause it caught me so off guard
@TriangleCity
@TriangleCity 3 жыл бұрын
Success
@Legokip
@Legokip 4 жыл бұрын
This needs to have more views it is so well made great work
@TriangleCity
@TriangleCity 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much dude!
@TheReviewer63
@TheReviewer63 3 жыл бұрын
33:07 Hearing you say fuck threw me for a loop I had to listen again to make sure I heard you right
@Buff-Wings
@Buff-Wings 3 жыл бұрын
This was always my main complaint with New Vegas, I always felt Vegas and free side were too small and divided. I know a lot of people like to think “Oh man, if only they had more time! It would’ve been the best game ever!” But it’s really not healthy to think like that, because it didn’t happen that way and will never happen. We were incredibly lucky the original creators of Fallout at interplay were able to make a new team and a deal with Bethesda to make this game a reality. But honestly with Obsidian and Bethesda both being owned by Microsoft, I’d say there is maybe a chance at a New Vegas 2 somewhere in the future. After Fallout 76 they are going to have to pull some serious fan service to win a lot of their player base back over.
@adamwilcox3288
@adamwilcox3288 2 жыл бұрын
I watch this video so often man, it has helped so much for giving me ideas to make my strip look amazing
@TriangleCity
@TriangleCity 2 жыл бұрын
Are you making a mod?
@adamwilcox3288
@adamwilcox3288 2 жыл бұрын
@@TriangleCity i would love to make a mod for the roof of the Tops, using the inaccessible elevator but i havent tried yet no. I think it would be a great use of the door there if i could get the proportions right
@ernestkhvostov2668
@ernestkhvostov2668 3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea that the strip contrasts the wasteland around it
@MrLFJ7
@MrLFJ7 4 жыл бұрын
This hits real hard in the chest with the cowboy bebop guitar song playing as house talks awaiting his death.
@world2peace982
@world2peace982 3 жыл бұрын
This game will always leave me with a weird and unsatisfied feeling not only because I felt like they could have done so much more when I play it but when I see all the cut content....
@r3mus47
@r3mus47 4 жыл бұрын
Such an underappreciated topic, good job man.
@Gilhelmi
@Gilhelmi 3 жыл бұрын
So many "disabled by a patch" ones. I wonder what the issues were. Edit: 13:30 kinda explains it. Not completely related, but I am sure that memory was a big issue with this.
@VL4DST3R
@VL4DST3R 3 жыл бұрын
I'm beginning to worry for the fact that i managed to hear the bloody discord notification among all the music and talking at 34:12 and jumped to check if it was real...
@beauvankomen
@beauvankomen 2 жыл бұрын
such great content man the game is so great, been watching u for a while keep up the great work
@twokindszen1189
@twokindszen1189 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that was alot I didn't even know about it would have been cool to see new Vegas as like that art picture you shown on video and this video was awesome now i know about the cut stuff from the new vegas strip keep up the great work with the videos :)
@pickleman40
@pickleman40 Жыл бұрын
34:10 you still can unlock the high roller suite through gambling the quest is called Big Winner, The Tops.
@DIEGhostfish
@DIEGhostfish 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that Cut hotel can be seen from the sharecropper farm, it's out behind the Ultra Lux and sorta where the NCR Embassy is. Not sure if they overlapped or what.
@jackson_1409
@jackson_1409 3 жыл бұрын
Once the “passionate” gamora noises played without console commands during the bye bye love quest , it was wired
@YourFoxFriendYT
@YourFoxFriendYT 3 жыл бұрын
I fell in love with securitrons, I love them. They need to appear in more games.
@Slade1984
@Slade1984 3 жыл бұрын
As the years go on new Vegas ages like a fine wine
@kaydee5520
@kaydee5520 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like they could remake this game how it was supposed to be made with your videos and release it for 60$ and be game of the year and everyone would be so happy + with mods on consoles that would be the best game ever made
@kirbster1005
@kirbster1005 4 жыл бұрын
Would be great to see a much larger and more open ‘strip’ in FNV for PC, without the restrictions of consoles. I also feel like diamond city in F4 was disappointing to (in terms of scale and content)
@JW-zx5dr
@JW-zx5dr 2 жыл бұрын
I love looking into behind the scenes and game design, although I see some cut features and cry a little inside that they didn’t make the cut.
@jacksonelh
@jacksonelh 4 жыл бұрын
ITS HERE BABY!!!! all that hard work paid off for sure haha!
@travosk8668
@travosk8668 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a strip restoration mod? Like a fully open, clean strip with non withered Tops
@LadyMistborn
@LadyMistborn Жыл бұрын
I love how all kinds of cool things got cut for memory, meanwhile they forget entire buildings in the world space and rocks under the ground that could've helped the game run better in general
@KelBShobra
@KelBShobra Жыл бұрын
Cant wait to see your first video hit 1mil views! Were halfway there!!
@TriangleCity
@TriangleCity Жыл бұрын
A few more years away haha
@linkfan95
@linkfan95 3 жыл бұрын
21:05 Fun fact for anyone who’s ever seen Redline, that’s Frisbee’s voice actor.
@brandonmusser3119
@brandonmusser3119 4 жыл бұрын
I hope we get a remake soon maybe they can add some of these old quests back in and some of the stuff they cut out
@Sky-dy4vn
@Sky-dy4vn 3 жыл бұрын
I've had the comment about buying drinks not being about the liquor or whatever. I'm running un-moded steam version with all DLC
@BaldianOfIbelin
@BaldianOfIbelin 2 жыл бұрын
I'm almost 100% sure that there used to be a Poker minigame because in the area where you find the China stealth armor can you find a poker table
@fallensurvivor21
@fallensurvivor21 4 жыл бұрын
Cool af. Does this pretty much explain why they wanted to do a PC version alone? They were really going above and beyond.. the time constraints weren't even a problem for them at the end of the day. They made their top tier Fallout game and the final product is a incredible. I respect them alot.
@3hited
@3hited 4 жыл бұрын
This video is amazing. Thank you
@glameow12345
@glameow12345 Жыл бұрын
47:12 oh so that was cut, when I got to that point I was trying to see if there was any possible way for me to not destroy them like with most other quest lines but found out it wasn’t possible.
@hansdiedeutsch7881
@hansdiedeutsch7881 3 ай бұрын
I've heard a good number of the cut Ultra-Luxe dialogue in my most recent XBSX playthrough of New Vegas. It's possible they were never disabled, or were reenabled at some point for the Xbox release copy? I'm currently using the most recent patch for the game so its up-to-date.
@tylerseitz6337
@tylerseitz6337 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine what it would be like playing this on the PS4.
@thegamingfox2533
@thegamingfox2533 4 жыл бұрын
Xbox x
@Jean-ClaudeGodDamn
@Jean-ClaudeGodDamn 4 жыл бұрын
It's hard to imagine how badass this game would be if all that stuff wasn't cut
@jamescole7889
@jamescole7889 4 жыл бұрын
Wow this dude deserves way more subs
@finnagarf743
@finnagarf743 3 жыл бұрын
it would be nice to see a jsawyer mod for the strip, like we got with the jsawyer director's cut mod
@k1ngofpayne991
@k1ngofpayne991 4 жыл бұрын
That FTL music had me so confused. im like how did i fire that game up without noticing?!?! cool vid none the less.
@karlwintor2850
@karlwintor2850 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos man, what texture mods do you use for the securitons because they look awesome.
@scraminqbanchy7162
@scraminqbanchy7162 3 жыл бұрын
I once ran into a weird bug with the strip ncr I was doing a ncr playthrough and in the middle of a quest for the embassy a group of soldiers came up to me accused me of being a terrorist or something and initiated combat despite me having a flawless reputation with them
@cowerdnerddespacito9518
@cowerdnerddespacito9518 3 жыл бұрын
You know if obsidian ever remade this game with as much time and money they needed it would be beautiful
@oldcrow6752
@oldcrow6752 3 жыл бұрын
"One liners, the Epi-tome of comedy"
@stephenelder3162
@stephenelder3162 Жыл бұрын
I feel like it will haunt todd howard to the grave that he didn’t make the best fallout game…
@PancakemonsterFO4
@PancakemonsterFO4 3 жыл бұрын
You can still win the player home at the tops i swear i checked (althrough you can't send your companions to it, can't buy additional furniture and the rooms aren't as cool-looking. Also House is in the same building)
@Goomy789
@Goomy789 3 жыл бұрын
@23:03 crate stacking challenge prediction?
@popeofsimps2924
@popeofsimps2924 3 ай бұрын
21:00 oh hey I heard the Mojave one ingame, mod must’ve readded it
@CabbageChad25
@CabbageChad25 2 жыл бұрын
You know you like a game when you watch a over an hour video of it bruh
@clappeddays3305
@clappeddays3305 3 жыл бұрын
I think it was before/after freeside being clean but after he nukes it went down
@OGMaverickGaming
@OGMaverickGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I expected massive city also. The Strip open mods helps. So does my personal made npc mod.
@aaroncoffey2109
@aaroncoffey2109 3 жыл бұрын
Praying the remake 3 and new vegas remaster with all the extra things 4 has.
@hachi9404
@hachi9404 3 жыл бұрын
if they remsastered the game, with all the cut content. Id probably buy it even if it was 100 dollars. fallout new vegas was what got me into RPGs as a kid
@olivegarden_on_steam
@olivegarden_on_steam 3 жыл бұрын
First I get my legs smashed, and then in walks the Powder Gangers' grim fucking reaper? What the fuck have you got against us, man?
@tazzohiggdog9078
@tazzohiggdog9078 4 жыл бұрын
I think Bethesda should team up with Obsidian again to remake the game the way it should have been, im not hating the game we got but looking at all these details just make me want more.
@forest238
@forest238 3 жыл бұрын
What animation mods are you using? Those look really good
@TriangleCity
@TriangleCity 3 жыл бұрын
Asurah's Reanimation Pack
@GambinoTheGoat
@GambinoTheGoat 4 жыл бұрын
Fuck I know this is some juicy stuff when it’s 1 hours long 😀👍
@isaacsrandomvideos667
@isaacsrandomvideos667 3 жыл бұрын
It should have been bigger definitely, maybe a few more tall buildings, but of course it needed to stay 50s.
@themusicalwizard613
@themusicalwizard613 4 жыл бұрын
In an Alternate Reality.... This is the game we got...
@johnmoan366
@johnmoan366 4 жыл бұрын
The mattress on the casino roof is probably a reference to The Hangover.
@TriangleCity
@TriangleCity 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't even think about that. You're probably right
@tonyal3235
@tonyal3235 4 жыл бұрын
I swear I was gonna say that 😂
@bimmer8602
@bimmer8602 4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao I forget about that movie a lot but when mentioned, I can remember a lot of scenes in my head. Funny movie
@mikeoxlong567
@mikeoxlong567 4 жыл бұрын
Idk why i thought it came out years after new vegas. I feel old.
@shadysam7161
@shadysam7161 4 жыл бұрын
do you guys just say literally everything is a reference to something else? easter egg hunters are weird.
@ast3rickk31
@ast3rickk31 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like, canonically, how the strip appears in one of the early trailers is how it actually is, a massive city, it’s just much smaller for gameplay reasons
@Shushkin
@Shushkin 4 жыл бұрын
Hardware limitations
@anti-punkaction5428
@anti-punkaction5428 4 жыл бұрын
I imagine it looks how it is in the game's intro
@CameronHuff
@CameronHuff 4 жыл бұрын
Like Diamond City in Fallout 4
@gamer65688
@gamer65688 4 жыл бұрын
Or like the Skyrim Cities
@kazmark_gl8652
@kazmark_gl8652 4 жыл бұрын
I think its the same as the cities of Skyrim, in cannon they are much larger but they are smaller in game due to hardware limitations.
@TKsMantis
@TKsMantis 4 жыл бұрын
Legit the most underrated Fallout KZbinr. Absolutely brilliant video Triangle! Thank you so much for the hard work!
@darylgrandy8190
@darylgrandy8190 4 жыл бұрын
You guys should collaborate it would make some great content
@Luke_H98
@Luke_H98 4 жыл бұрын
@@darylgrandy8190 Agreed!
@TriangleCity
@TriangleCity 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much dude! I love and respect you work so that means a ton from you! 🖤🖤🖤
@aisforamerica2185
@aisforamerica2185 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, sir Mantis
@isaacsrandomvideos667
@isaacsrandomvideos667 4 жыл бұрын
TKs-Mantis yes
@jays.6843
@jays.6843 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that the Strip actually looked nice at some point annoys me. You'd think that they'd at least maybe try to paint over the busted wallpaper after 100+ years, but nope.
@chompythebeast
@chompythebeast 3 жыл бұрын
That's _all_ of Bethesda's Fallouts for you. It made more sense in the first two games where the tone was different (more Mad Max), but once the 50's Americana came to the fore, it made no sense that everyone would literally leave skeletons sitting on toilet seats and that they wouldn't patch the holes in the walls where they live and sleep
@turningcog
@turningcog 3 жыл бұрын
what kind of DIY monster paints over wallpaper?
@travosk8668
@travosk8668 3 жыл бұрын
@@chompythebeast even fallout 2 had clean areas... vault city was what a pre war city wouldve looked like.
@zixx844
@zixx844 3 жыл бұрын
@@chompythebeast Specially the strip where caps flow like water. No way Mr house would have tolerated letting the clans let his city decay like this and would have demanded they pay to help have the city fully restored.
@Blakbox92
@Blakbox92 2 жыл бұрын
That's what annoys me about some parts of Fallout in general. Look, I know nuclear war happened, but it's been TWO CENTURIES by the time of FO3, NV and FO4, those car wrecks should have long been salvaged for scrap, people should have repainted places they live in. There ought to be completely new constructions made from simpler materials, and where are all the bicycles? In a world with limited powered transportation, and apparently no horse, bikes should be everywhere. Edit: in FO and FO2 this kind of thing does happen, cars are salvaged or repaired. Places like Shady Sands/NCR, Vault City, and San Francisco under the Shi are well maintained or rebuilt yet still feel "post apocalyptic". Even New Reno looks like it's in better condition than New Vegas does.
@user-hi4sm3ig5j
@user-hi4sm3ig5j 4 жыл бұрын
I'm kind of disappointed they went with the run down version of the strip rather than the cleaned up and less damaged one mentioned. That way The Strip would have truly been the 'el dorado' it gets described as. On the other hand, the way it was shipped does make sense how it represents that The Strip is just as diseased and corrupt as everywhere else in the post apocalyptic wasteland.
@johnkittz
@johnkittz 4 жыл бұрын
I like it. The people inside the strip talk like it's a golden city, but in reality it's just another corrupt and filthy wasteland city.
@belisarius6949
@belisarius6949 4 жыл бұрын
It should have been clean. You think you entered the jewel of the Mojave, a place untouched by the bombs, but like everything else its corrupted to the core.
@Lorenzo_I.
@Lorenzo_I. 4 жыл бұрын
It makes me want to tackle a mod for it. I really would like the dichotomy.
@devdixit2440
@devdixit2440 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's supposed to be highly developed and alluring, but there are massive potholes in the roads. The casinos look dull and ugly on the inside, with the wallpaper peeling off. The place just looks run down, its supposed to be the gem of the Mojave, it ends up being disappointing.
@Gwestytears
@Gwestytears 4 жыл бұрын
I am kind of disappointed by the scale of new vegas. 100 people milling around is barely a city
@normandybeachparty
@normandybeachparty 3 жыл бұрын
Bethesda can remaster and rerelease Skyrim 29 times but can't do the same thing for this masterpiece once
@nillynush4899
@nillynush4899 3 жыл бұрын
Obsidian embarrassed Bethesda by making the best Fallout and with no time/real budget. Don't think Bethesda wants extra shit-talking points being given to the people after 76.
@wiedzmin8204
@wiedzmin8204 3 жыл бұрын
@@nillynush4899 FNV is literally the worst game I ever played.
@DAntreShivers
@DAntreShivers 3 жыл бұрын
@@wiedzmin8204 you can't be serious
@wiedzmin8204
@wiedzmin8204 3 жыл бұрын
@@DAntreShivers No really, it sucks so fucking much. Literally can not stand to sit another minute playing that game. Now Morrowind, Morrowind is where its at.
@DAntreShivers
@DAntreShivers 3 жыл бұрын
@@wiedzmin8204 found the neckbeard
@H.Perevell
@H.Perevell 4 жыл бұрын
I'd say that they Mysterious Stranger showing up in vats when you try to kill the Drifter and killing you instead would probably be the best thing to happen. It would most definitely spice things up and increase the value of the Drifter. A neat idea is that if the Drifter was in combat, that the mysterious stranger would have a chance to appear - outside of vats.
@Chedring
@Chedring 4 жыл бұрын
That cut entrance by the Las Vegas sign would have been nice. It would also make more sense since the NCR base at the airport would directly connect to the Embassy. But they must have really wanted the players to go through freeside instead of the sorta safe NCR controlled zones. Glad to see you back though.
@nathanlevesque7812
@nathanlevesque7812 4 жыл бұрын
monorail tho
@sebastian.victor7461
@sebastian.victor7461 4 жыл бұрын
I never liked having to go through freeside. Always felt like a second or back entrance
@nathanlevesque7812
@nathanlevesque7812 4 жыл бұрын
@@sebastian.victor7461 If only House had created a secret entrance into the Lucky 38. That would spare us the trouble of several loading zones and even entering the laggy ass Strip quite a few times.
@Chedring
@Chedring 3 жыл бұрын
@Gr8Sc0tt Maybe it could require an NCR soldier ID you could steal or a super high NCR reputation.
@hyperiongm330
@hyperiongm330 3 жыл бұрын
The south gate could've been locked down until the fiends are defeated due to the security risk. Literally as simple as checking if all four fiend leaders are still alive.
@johnnyk617
@johnnyk617 4 жыл бұрын
I remember being so let down when I finally made to new vegas in game I kept searching and searching where the rest of the city
@packlesswolf1
@packlesswolf1 4 жыл бұрын
Same man I was like " wtf is this? Where's everything else". I remember looking at the " big " hotels and casinos and realized they are only like 4 storys tall max. But the way the modeled it made it look like it was 10 story's tall.
@Tgspy312
@Tgspy312 4 жыл бұрын
As a note, we recently also learned that the billboards used on the strip are actually a major cause of performance hits. They're extremely poorly optimised with dozens of materials and therefore draw calls per mesh. Whilst I can't speak for the obsidian guys, I have a slight suspicion that this was never caught before release, which is why the strip still performs poorly to this day. EDIT: On top of this, there lies an option in the rendering code that causes increased ram usage overall. Textures are mirrored into system ram rather than lying entirely on the GPU VRAM. This was rectified on some user mods like new vegas tick fix or more crudly, ENBoost.
@TriangleCity
@TriangleCity 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. I had no idea that was one of the major causes of the Strip's performance issues. With how accelerated the development cycle was, I wouldn't be surprised if it went overlooked entirely.
@nathanlevesque7812
@nathanlevesque7812 4 жыл бұрын
No wonder I never noticed a problem with the Strip Open mod. I always had fixes for the Strips issues in general.
@NuggetInAJar
@NuggetInAJar 3 жыл бұрын
Can you link the source to this info? It sounds interesting to read more about
@chompythebeast
@chompythebeast 3 жыл бұрын
What confuses me is why that sort of thing wasn't patched, whereas there were _multiple_ small patches removing NPCs or encounters or fixed objects after release. The Strip remains chuggy even today. Why would they replace a green stripper cage with a gold one, but not bother to take a look at all the relatively-obvious billboard issues?
@Ferdoe
@Ferdoe 3 жыл бұрын
@@chompythebeast As the comment said it was likely overlooked until too late. Plus it would take large reworks to fix the billboards. Its as easy as ticking a box to disable an npc in most cases.
@PrimusSwallows
@PrimusSwallows 4 жыл бұрын
A shame they had to strip the game of all this content
@joshualeahy2162
@joshualeahy2162 4 жыл бұрын
*Badum tss* 🥁 😉
@Dick_Kickem69
@Dick_Kickem69 3 жыл бұрын
CAAAAARLOS!
@therr2146
@therr2146 4 жыл бұрын
46:35, To think that Caesar felt the Securitrons starting up and being upgraded, and mistakenly thinking that it was an underground explosion
@wiictvchannel1112
@wiictvchannel1112 3 жыл бұрын
What's a little lame about that too is that his response is no different even if you do blow it up. I know he wouldn't have any context to knowing the difference in different playthroughs but it just seems really lazy.
@therr2146
@therr2146 3 жыл бұрын
@@wiictvchannel1112 how else would he respond? If he wouldn't know the difference, he wouldn't give different responses.
@eatglue
@eatglue 3 жыл бұрын
Playing with uncut mods for so long, I forgot what was actually cut. Having the announcement play when I blow up House just feels like it never should have been cut. Also I love Fretwell. He just chills.
@wojak-sensei6424
@wojak-sensei6424 Жыл бұрын
On that topic, those sound bits of House introducing himself and when you screw him over always felt... out of character for me. He's awfully friendly at the introduction, which is fine. He's probably lulling you in and giving you the special treatment like any suave multimillionaire should. But in the betrayal bits, he still has that non-aggressive demeanor. I was expecting some level of desperation in him, like a man slowly seeing his futuristic dreams crumble around him. Instead, he seems miffed, annoyed, and nonchalant, like it's a minor inconvenience that *he's about to see the end of his 200-year plan turn to dust.* I think it was for the best that House's dialogue was cut there, or at least they could've done a different take.
@user-hi4sm3ig5j
@user-hi4sm3ig5j 4 жыл бұрын
15:40 Hearing that the PS3 was the reason for all the downgrades makes me feel less guilty about originally discovering and playing New Vegas on the 360 first before the PC.
@tf2keller398
@tf2keller398 4 жыл бұрын
Same.
@Shushkin
@Shushkin 4 жыл бұрын
Consoles seem to ruin gaming for everybody
@derp7327
@derp7327 4 жыл бұрын
Shushkin honestly the ps3 in particular ruined a lot of games from that generation
@pyroparagon8945
@pyroparagon8945 4 жыл бұрын
@@Shushkin PC ruins gaming for everybody.
@pyroparagon8945
@pyroparagon8945 4 жыл бұрын
@@derp7327 did the Xbox not exist?
@JohnSmith-fq3rg
@JohnSmith-fq3rg 3 жыл бұрын
33:05 "And other characters the player can F U C K" Wasn't expecting that in this comprehensive documentary
@Bewmbshakalaka
@Bewmbshakalaka 3 жыл бұрын
LMFAO same
@1bruhmann1
@1bruhmann1 3 жыл бұрын
Lol same
@ItsKiTime
@ItsKiTime 2 жыл бұрын
just casually listening in the background while i draw, and this is exactly why i paused and slid down to the comments-- glad i wasn't the only one taken aback lmao
@andrewmccotter3791
@andrewmccotter3791 Жыл бұрын
Lol same it made me laugh My ass off
@andrewgault8076
@andrewgault8076 4 жыл бұрын
screw Ceaser legion or Mr House, Bethesda was the ultimate bad guy in FNV
@drewinsur7321
@drewinsur7321 4 жыл бұрын
18 months is outrageous, yet the greatest fallout game imo. Maybe after F2.
@manuelredgrave8348
@manuelredgrave8348 4 жыл бұрын
Zenimax:
@wisemankugelmemicus1701
@wisemankugelmemicus1701 4 жыл бұрын
Which part of Bethesda?
@wisemankugelmemicus1701
@wisemankugelmemicus1701 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidf2676 Bethesda Game Studios had only minor involvement in Fallout: NV, leasing the engine to them to make the game. Bethesda Softworks is the one that supposedly screwed over Obsidian (although they agreed to all the conditions and were fine working under said conditions, and nobody at Obsidian has any real problem with Bethesda Softoworks, so this is le epic gamers getting worked up over business stuff they don't understand)
@AlexConnor_
@AlexConnor_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@wisemankugelmemicus1701 Exactly, there's no bad blood between Obsidian and Bethesda. NV was supposed to be a simple expansion for Fallout 3, no more complicated than an oversized DLC and as such 18 months was a perfectly reasonable development schedule. However Obsidian was very ambitious about what they wanted to do with their Fallout game and at the same time inexperienced with the Gamebryo engine and it's limitations, they planned too big and lost time with content that later had to be cut as incomplete. Pushing back the release wasn't really an option for either party, Bethesda wanted a reasonable gap to Skyrim which was launching 12 months later, meanwhile Obsidian was in financial trouble even before development started and needed to release the game on schedule or risk bankruptcy. So no hard feelings between studios, I remember one of the senior devs being asked back in 2015 or 2016 by a journalist if Obsidian would be interested in doing a similar game based on Fallout 4 and he said yes, they would still like to work with Bethesda on Fallout if the chance came up.
@ultimatecorgi3392
@ultimatecorgi3392 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think Caesar feeling the ground shake when you activate the securitron vault is necessarily a plothole. Presumably that much equipment spinning up would do something.
@allenpate4515
@allenpate4515 4 жыл бұрын
I swear every year i hear and see more cut content undiscovered until im just like damn will it ever end ... Haha hopefully never
@DrunkVolcano
@DrunkVolcano 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks god I had my headphones in at 33:00
@FakeEnclaveSoldier
@FakeEnclaveSoldier 4 жыл бұрын
Loving the series, hope there’s a remake one day will cut content restored
@IncultaWolf
@IncultaWolf 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps 😏
@Yannis1a
@Yannis1a 4 жыл бұрын
Only a fan made, obsidian is doing their own thing and Bethesda never had actual hopes in NV, they just did it to end the western story and basically a final act of good will to the creators of the original series as their was many problems when they got the rights
@firewarrior6084
@firewarrior6084 4 жыл бұрын
If there is a new Vegas remake I call 2025 at the earliest to 2030 at the latest.
@geth7112
@geth7112 4 жыл бұрын
Hey if people could actually get the Snyder cut thing to happen. I think we could get it done for something that's actually good. Released the obsidian cut Bethesda.
@Darknal199
@Darknal199 4 жыл бұрын
Actually a team of modders is working on a remaster called Fallout 4 New Vegas
@stinkygoat2686
@stinkygoat2686 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, can't imagine deving this game on a pc, testing it on an Xbox and having it run fine and then testing it on ps3 and getting 10 fps, I'd have a heart attack in thay moment of realization.
@Oblio1942
@Oblio1942 4 жыл бұрын
33:04 well that was straight to the point lol
@housekaughffvslycir4319
@housekaughffvslycir4319 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that caught me off guard XD
@infernoreviews2529
@infernoreviews2529 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I wonder why the vegas was so destroyed, house shot all the nukes out of the sky.
@UgandanAirForce
@UgandanAirForce 4 жыл бұрын
probably neglect/deterioration from not properly maintaining the infrastructure for a couple hundred years. the strip itself probably had the best care into it compared to the outside, but this would require a lot of manpower that they dont have i'd imagine.
@infernoreviews2529
@infernoreviews2529 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that could be the case.
@jarskil8862
@jarskil8862 4 жыл бұрын
Shock- and heatwaves from missiles that hit further away? House saved vegas from direct hits.
@yourehereforthatarentyou
@yourehereforthatarentyou 4 жыл бұрын
@@jarskil8862 to add onto this, in-universe vegas is a lot less wrecked than it looks in-game. look at the prequel comic, thats how new vegas *actually* looks. in-game its obviously way smaller and harder to convey that new vegas is more than just las vegas boulevard, (the game being rushed is another symptom is this) and the result of this is the destroyed parts being a lot closer to the vegas strip itself the implication is that house shot down most of the bombs that were going to hit center vegas itself, and the remaining bombs were left to hit the outer areas of vegas which would be like summerlin, winchester, and paradise. i figure these areas are meant to be the outer areas of new vegas, becoming westside, freeside, and the south vegas ruins (where vault 3 is)
@jarskil8862
@jarskil8862 4 жыл бұрын
@@yourehereforthatarentyou Its huge dissapointment that the game was rushed. I really would love to see huge city done similarly as Washington DC was made in fo3.
@QueenetBowie
@QueenetBowie 4 жыл бұрын
I need to become a billionaire so I can A. Buy Obsidian back from Microsoft and B. buy the rights to fallout from Bethesda. Anyone got any good stock tips?
@Nexuslex
@Nexuslex 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao if i knew i would tell you 😂
@Theshabadaman
@Theshabadaman 4 жыл бұрын
With Microsoft's recent acquisition of ZeniMax, Obsidian and Bethesda are now sister companies. New Vegas 2 is now entirely possible...
@michaelyearwood6422
@michaelyearwood6422 4 жыл бұрын
@@Theshabadaman obsidian wants to make one and Bethesda are busy on starfield and elder scrolls 6...so its possible
@МирјанаАдамовић
@МирјанаАдамовић 2 жыл бұрын
The MP attacked me even though my rep with the strip was unpredictable and the rep with ncr was idolized, didnt owe any casino, didnt kill a single trooper, and he says "You should've payed your dues, nobody fucks with the NCR!"
@AzmondDontez
@AzmondDontez 4 жыл бұрын
DUDE!!! AN HOUR ELEVEN??? YOU ABSOLUTE GODDAMN LEGEND YOU’LL BE GOING TO HEAVEN FOR THIS!!!
@bturx2180
@bturx2180 4 жыл бұрын
holy shit a full hour
@bturx2180
@bturx2180 4 жыл бұрын
not complaining
@Vanalovan
@Vanalovan 3 жыл бұрын
What I wouldn’t pay for a proper New Vegas Remake. Updated Engine, restored content, bug fixed and in game mod support. I play that like it was a Paradox game!
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