The New Warhammer 40k Starter Box... Surprisingly Good?

[@-Seek-17]

me and my two friends recently got into the hobby earlier today! my friends shared the first intrudoctory box as one of them wants the tyranids and the other wants the space marines and i bought a small tau package!

[@barrymarchetto245]

Tau is my favorite, but its underloved by gw. For the greater good!

[@-Seek-17]

@@barrymarchetto245 For the greater good!

[@robouteguilliman7628]

All 3 of these people have been seen by Inquisition

[@-Seek-17]

@@robouteguilliman7628 oh god no

[@TyranidkingWill]

@@-Seek-17 I love tau aswell hence the name For the greater good!

[@theodoreroosevelt3143]

it could be great if there was "big ass starter box" Ultimate starter box + Introductory box and two brushes you can unbox it, paint with your friend, learn and play together, everything in a single box

[@toferkrz946]

They did that for the Soul Wars starter set for AoS 2e. There was a regular version and one bundled with a hobby set. The bundle was even available at third party retail. The fact that they have not done a similar bundle for any subsequent starter product likely indicates that it didn't sell very well compared to the regular Soul Wars starter box.

[@deformiertergolfball4847]

indomitus box was this for me. i think it was a great value. paid round about 130€ for it.

[@blastingsound]

GWS: "THAT'S A GREAT IDEA! AND WE'LL COMBINE THE PRICES!!"

[@LethalWeaponTV]

There's a paint kit from the same company that includes all the paints you'd need for ultimate starter kit! Includes way more paints than the introductory set too

[@ChristopherAndersonPirate]

@@toferkrz946ehhh I would just guess that GW lacks vision and doesn’t care, not that it wouldn’t sell well.

[@paddya3304]

A hearty well done to whoever made the 'what's in the box' jingle. Pure genius!

[@Therealblacktux]

love these Australian release times, i can actually watch things from this channel as they release! go my fellow Australians!

[@B1-997]

and we get the prices for aus too, 150 for the starter set is less than i expected which is good.

[@Ultrama-ri7pz]

haha I already bought it! XD but I used up all my money thooo

[@B1-997]

@@Ultrama-ri7pz imma buy a copy in the next month or two, busy with getting ready to move atm. The box art on the starter set looks so good imo.

[@TheWhiteLycan]

Buying the most expensive starter set is basically substituting more character models (alot more) for some terrain. Personally I don't see this as a win. Leviathan is better for new starters who want to grow an army.

[@noosebrother]

I like the leviathan box. It will sit on my desk pride of place untill i finally get around to paint it😂

[@sundarworldTV]

Same, soon as I get to Dark Imperium and Indomitus i'll get stuck right into Leviathan!

[@pamelawalsh8153]

Back when my daughter was little, she wanted some sisters mini's.... she wanted pink, purple and gold with a tiger stripe theme..... don't know where they ended up as it was almost 20 years ago.... maybe I need to get back into painting mini's

[@catcadev]

Go for it! It's a boatload of fun. If you don't want a lot of stuff start with the Introductory set. You can add in the biggest one after, the two sets of five Infernus Marines will slot right in, and having lots of Termagaunts is a must, I've heard.

[@bigshimsham]

Those marines are amazingly done, great job. Also love the colour scheme on the nids.

[@Sedona_FD3S]

I wanted to play till I found out the starter boxes are $300

[@taylorbrooks1700]

I’m very new to the hobby as well but getting basically two playable armies out the box with all of the extras is pretty good value considering you will pay near that much for a single stand-alone combat patrol without any of the other stuff this comes with

[@mattw6705]

I'd like to get into the hobby too but I can't justify spending so much, especially when I still gotta buy paint n such as well. I saw sets of like 5 units earlier over $100...Gtfo GW..I'd sooner invest in a solid 3d printer and just start printing my own minis, probably the best option honestly.

[@ChuckIsANerd]

@@mattw6705i don’t think I’ve ever seen a set of 5 mini’s for over $100… Combat patrols however are roughly 25 minis for £100 here in the UK. Also I can promise anyone that if you were to stop buying all the stupid little things throughout the month that you don’t need or really want, you’ll eventually have enough money to spend on a worthwhile hobby.

[@ToothpasteJuice]

For the cost of 2 sets, you can buy a printer, and print it all yourself. Materials and resin included. It's actually insnane when you think about the profit margins on these. Each set couldn't cost GW more than 10 bucks MAX to produce

[@channelZER01]

It's not the hobby for you.

[@taxman3749]

This is why it's so handy to download the PDF. of the Leviathan book to a tablet and trim it to the rules pages.

[@darkaiel]

Is that different than the free core rules pdf?

[@taxman3749]

@@darkaiel I don't think so.

[@jdliefting8926]

I've got the middle starter set last week. This box is perfect for me because i already started the hobby and purchased all the tools, paints and 1 box of intercessors as a starting point months ago. Now that i want to start playing with an actual army, the middle starter set gives me a terminator squad, a captain and an infernus squad. I've paid 55 euros for the box at my local 3rd party retailer since it was on sale and i also had some points from my previous purchases for extra discount. So for someone like me this box is perfect to give some structure to my army which i can finetune with separate purchases in the future.

[@doomgummy]

It isn't difficult to get the Leviathan box for the same price as the ultimate starter box. I did it just a week or two ago, and it feels like a way better deal at the same price (200usd)

[@SpoonyBard88]

Leviathan probably is not going to get a second printing, while these will be on store shelves until the next edition.

[@reachlol1]

Leviathan isn't getting a second print. So you'll only find them after this year second hand.

[@connorbaz5980]

@@reachlol1 damn, better get one ASAP then. How much longer will they be in production this year?

[@KrazzeeKane]

Not anymore lol, cheapest Leviathan box is $375+ from scalpers, so its not really a consideration any longer considering you could buy 2x Ultimate Starter Sets or 4x Starter Sets for the same price now :(

[@lekarabbit5181]

I think the middle box is more valuable than the big started box the gw terian may be expensive but that doesn't make it good value sense generic sci Fi bunker or ruins are easy to get but it's still nice for new players

[@Cremefreeeesh]

Super boring imo, but using existing terrain probably alleviates supply chain issues

[@lekarabbit5181]

@@zeroclutterartanddesign9637 yeah definitely a good choice for new players just not valuable after that

[@gillian_seed8358]

I just got the introductory set to dabble my toes in painting and a couple small battles. I got it over here in the US for 15%off msrp at my local hobby shop. If I like it, they got like 18 Leviathan boxes and said I could have one for $185 it’s like right at 26% off. That’s awesome!!

[@Paint_Quest]

Include the good old Euro as well ... please 😅

[@jacksond420]

Been waiting for this one Dave! Great value for money analysis!

[@hendrikmoons8218]

Got Leviathan complete box once, the nids of a second one, other half was bought for half the price by a new space marine player. Aiming at a third Leviathan box for the models and an ultimate start collecting one, for models + mini rulebook + scenary. As an experianced player, getting back in the hobby, I knew this was and still is, a hobby not for the feint of wallet. For ease of mass paining, undercoating etc, got an airbrush. Now flocking and basing material and some varnish. Add double the price already spent on more models for my nids and about 200€ on a carry case + matching backpack (Jucoci + magnets) and paint and a new 2k toornament army will take it's price easily South of 1K €. I love this hobby, it's game, lore and armybuilding, but dang GW, the price of them mini's par gram excedes the price of raw silver!

[@LeftyRedd]

Very important thing to note, the softcover rule book is better than the slimmed down, hardcover 'The Rules' book because the softcover one has combat patrol missions in the back whereas The Rules doesn't have them at all.

[@charlesmcmanus4229]

Yeah, Assault on Black Reach was a great deal. - Dice, templates, the rulebook - Space Marine HQ - 10 Tactical Marines - 5 Terminators - 1 Dreadnaught (with a multimelta arm that was only available through kitbashing or ForgeWorld up til this point) - Ork HQ - 5 Ork Nobz - 20 Ork Boyz - 3 Koptas (first time in plastic) Retail price in USA: $75 I can’t tell you how many of those boxes sold and got new people into the hobby. And veteran gamers bought that box up to expand their existing armies (Hell, I started an Ork army BECAUSE of that starter box).

[@andrewcrane5105]

If you live in America get the damn Leviathan box it's $250 with $500 worth of models in it

[@michaelmaddox2536]

If they added a chaplin in term armor instead of a captain, they would have gotten everyone.

[@catcadev]

My brother in the Emperor. What on earth. If you said "Librarian" I would have gotten it. If you said "Apothecary", I'd have gone "yeah sure, but the theming of the apothecary is a bit nicer". But the Captain? You *need* a Captain. The Terminators are returning bro, how would they not have a Captain. You NEED a Captain. Anyways, I left a dislike on your comment

[@michaelmaddox2536]

@catcadev ok but I said it because the leviathan box just came with both an Librarian and an Captain In term armor. This next box would have made so many new collectors terminator army feel complete.

[@tomekk.1889]

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[@edward3896]

6:48 OH MY LORD where has this game been ! NEW PLAYER ARRIVING ❤️‍🔥

[@satire__]

what i got from this: More space bears & Hive Fleet Jotunn

[@ThatIronHandsGuy]

the ultimate set is perfect for 2 siblings wanting to play warhammer together

[@DanielCosta-zp6jl]

the only thing that puts me out of trying this for the first time is all the painting, not for me if there was boxset already painted models i would give a try and buy a box

[@WildriftGaming777]

this hobby is at least 3 times more expensive than 10 years ago and way less figurines aha - that is why i gave it up. Feels like an absolute scam nowadays

[@livingglowstick1337]

I wonder if everything got 3 times more expensive. Hmm weird

[@MrDucksBill]

Yeah I bought the introductory set it was worth the money but then I bought Acadian shock troops and felt ripped off

[@marcellmolnar8228]

You are right

[@samuraisaint2360]

Just 3D print them

[@anfernee6566]

Thanks Obama

[@Todd6976]

i always find videos like this kind of amusing because at the time id just had my birthday so i had more than enough money to get the leviathan box from wayland games and because i got if there they gave me an extra freebie in the way of deployment markers, so i never really thought what would be the best spend

[@GameplayCasts]

Love the videos! Very jealous of your big terrain pieces and how much time you get to spend modelling! I got a Leviathan Box and I'm a bit gutted it hasn't come with some terrain to be honest! I did manage to get the game boards and the game tokens with it though! Keep up the good work 👍 Its channels like yours that have inspired me to get back into the hobby! Dark Angles FTW!

[@darrellcolleran8884]

Thanks for the review, my brother and I are gonna give this box set a go….i like they way the painter swapped the color pallet between the armies!

[@daniellogue8365]

The mid tier box probably the best value. The terrain addition to this and the biggest necrom starter in 9th is kinda a feels bad. Doubling price for some terrain because GW prices all sprues the same. The old box insert terrain was a great idea, I've used it plenty of times. And if I'm a new player or using this to start a new army I want the most playable models as possible. Also $100USD about what I picture is the most someone is going to impulse buy into this game. Which I think Leviathan priced a lot of people out who weren't already committed to this game.

[@Morrodin-WH40K]

The issue with the mid tier box is that the armies within aren't combat patrols. GW tries to promote combat patrol as the step into Warhammer way of playing. If you need to buy the missing models separately without discount, you are almost paying the same amount as you would for the ultimate starter box ... which is why the mid tier box is a huge trap and feel bad box. The introductory box is nice for anyone totally new to the hobby and unsure if they are gonna like it. The ultimate starter is the best box for new players that are 100% committed into getting into WH but don't own an army yet. Every other person is most likely best served by buying a combat patrol of the faction they like. At least that is my opinion about it 🙂

[@heddge7718]

Is there a video out on the painting of those terminators?!? Those are beautiful

[@leea-123.A]

but last two dont have paints so if someone new you have to buy all the paints which make it very expensive

[@CatDribble]

Ummm can't say this is the best starter box they've ever made, I like the orc and space marines one they did years ago

[@Dragonlord651]

Space marines and tyranids are my favorite factions so this set is right up my alley

[@wuyangteioh7374]

Day 3 of asking for murray mondays

[@kikolokopo_toys]

Murray Mondays, Dave December and Jane January

[@magnetmussel]

I don't know what Murray Mondays would be but im all for it👍😄

[@SystemUnderSiege]

I feel like it was a mistake to not include a shade in the intro set. Shoulda had an Earthshade. Shading for me was the "ah ha" moment when I first started where I could see awesome results in a fast fun way. It got me hooked and they add a lot so I think they should have done that.

[@newcartaste8986]

i will be getting this as soon as i can afford it

[@Im-the-greatest]

I got the starter box based off this review. I was going to get some anyways. These things are a pain in the ass to put together and paint. I suck at painting but if you put mine together I'll paint yours.

[@hll705]

The introductory set is brilliant. It gives an actual full introduction to the hobby to someone who is curious about the hobby. The starter set is a trap. The ultimate box is almost perfect. I’d say the lack of a full core book with all the lore detracts from the box. All of these boxes are nominally for beginners getting started in the hobby. If you are new, getting those 200 plus pages of lore and art really helps to immerse you in the world. Still, given that GW stopped including the full core book in starter sets ages ago, it probably is one of the best starters they’ve made.

[@TabletopTime]

We concur! The starter set is only desirable for established players seeing cheap minis - but with the mix of models, is it even worth getting in multiples? Better off waiting for the inevitable magazine collection or box splits

[@christaaiindevet]

1:47 And I took that personally.

[@christaaiindevet]

1:45

[@coldtruth4u]

5:38 somebody get my guy a larger shirt 😭 bro getting squeezed out here

[@madmerlinsart]

Planning to pick this up for a new series on my channel. This video has been very helpful, though I'd have liked a better look at the booklet included.

[@kennethchapin8722]

I got the fourth addition work marine box, kept the copters, gave the Terminators an book to my boy

[@CrismisoElite]

would be cool to see a starter box with 2 of each faction

[@adye88]

The Original star craft artwork for the tyranids looks so cool.. what could've been.

[@Sgt-lott10]

Been painting warhammer figures for a year but honestly, I'll probably still pick up some of these even though I play imperial guard

[@ClarissaMeyer]

That's a nice breakdown of those boxes!

[@sladewilson8224]

I remember my first starter set, assault on Blackreach.

[@ChristopherAndersonPirate]

“Risen out of inflation” 😂😂😂

[@ThroatJunk]

Are the models push fit?

[@janelewis9251]

Nothing better than Dark Imperium will never be made. Period.

[@BrandonL337]

honestly, as someone who bought the leviathan box and who's folks are getting interested in getting some models to paint and maybe play, the ultimate box appeals to me a lot for something to get them. 2 full combat patrols, one for each of them, a board, some terrain and the mini rules, all three of which would be great to have, though admittedly I wish there was a bit more to the terrain, but that's my only real complaint.

[@thatwargaming5459]

I would do it just for fun I love painting

[@N0v3mber5]

Where does one need to venture to buy the mentioned items in the video

[@tito_tito_gorgorito]

Is it really worth paying extra for the "paper" version of the rules when they get updated and corrected?

[@markapodaca5737]

Came for the video. Lost it at the Australian dollar. Never knew it was called that.

[@AirbrushDownandDirtyTricks]

Y after staring with the Leviathan set I almost wish I waited because would be nice to start with terrain and matts and such

[@InterrogatorchaplainAsmodai]

He minis look great, although I intend to get the mid range starter set as its got those new terminators and I am unable to get them in any other way currently

[@huhhuhhuh4069]

How long would it take to paint the whole ultimate set?

[@frostedbutts4340]

As a newbie? A good few weekends per half.

[@awesomlawson]

great video, good to see gw is recognising talent ;)

[@sofaking1627]

Thanks guys. This is pretty sweet.

[@Skull_Admiral_Sam]

are the starter packs prebuilt? my sister's husband introduced me to warhammer minis and he bought me a tau pathfinder killteam and i put together one of the guys so far

[@Mandrewlochner]

Nothing is pre built. Warhammer hours heresy legion is super minis and they don't usually require much assembly

[@Skull_Admiral_Sam]

@@Mandrewlochner thanks!

[@Mandrewlochner]

Warhammer has*

[@djmaxxsaint]

Space Hulk is the entry to forever. 🔥🔥🔥

[@g_y.rtz420]

Oh wow, outsider here hoping to get into 40k when life gets better, and although i knew its expensive and i knew gw has been raising prices recently, actually seeing the prices of these starter kits for the first time almost made me cry. I guess ill never actually be able to get into it and now im actually sad, like my heart actually broke seeing these prices. 😢

[@sanjinans]

Also just finding out more about figurines and all that after knowing about 40k for years without ever checking prices. If you are not gonna play tournaments and just play with friends 3d print or buy 3d printed ones, waaaay cheaper

[@xxxdevin247]

Currently reading/listening to 40K lore, plan on buying some sets and considering these sets and black templars, open to suggestions/tips. I'm just now dipping my toes into it.

[@TyphusVonElder]

Assault on Black Reach the best, 80 bucks for a dred, 5 terminators, spacemarine tact squad and captain, and whatever else the orks had.

[@RiSk3y]

Goddamnit this video convinced me to buy the Ultimate box.

[@theb3654]

I bought the Ultimate Starter box, im excited for my first warhammer experience.

[@Jaseran]

Hi, thank you for this detailed presentation. Are the spacemarines of all these kits always Ultra marines? I'm not familiar with the game so I'm not sure to understand what it takes to transform a Space marine squad from Ultra marines to Dark angels for exemple. I'm not talking about specific units but just the basic generic one. Do you just need to paint the Space marine in green instead of blue and the terminator in ivory and green? Do you need to replace stickers and some sculpted symbols? Are there any of these in the starters?

[@livingglowstick1337]

Yes you need to change the colours and symbols if you want to change the faction. For games running the official rules they must look like the faction you are playing to be legal for the game. Home games people don't care

[@sorubro2193]

What about the primer for the figures?

[@jarlaxledaerthe4045]

Is that the exact same terrain as the last box?

[@Luzarioth]

I bought the Ultimate Starter Set for myself. Having absolutly nothing, that Box really jump started me.

[@ErmIDK19]

All starter sets should have the paints and such included . I'd feel ripped off if i bought one and that stuff wasnt with it

[@livingglowstick1337]

TBF you would need to buy the coloured primers for two combat patrols which they can't ship with the box and has to be a separate item and there's a lot of different paints needed and many different colour schemes it's better for them to just stay separate

[@Thatoneinternetguy]

Hey, I’m trying to get into warhammer 40k, do you recommend I get the ultimate starter set or the introductory set?

[@theswagbaws69]

bro just get the intraductory set, its way less expensive and in the actual box you get the minis and the paint the clipers, a paint brush, dice, literaly all you need to start, wich you do not have in the ultimate starter. and just watch a video of how to play 40k on youtube and you will be ready for your first quick game! And if you have the money for a big box just get a leviathan box...where i live in north america it's almost the same price😅!

[@Basil_Ghothickovitch]

I don't need any paint or cutting pliers or terrain, just miniatures for my Curiosly Assembled Collection. But bloody Games Workshop didn't send the Leviathan box to the retailer where I usually buy, so I can't get a good deal on it, otherwise there's no point. And so I would buy a Leviathan, but I will have to buy an average middle starter set, probably.

[@TabletopTime]

The middle box is definitely the best value for raw minis for an established collector!

[@alphawolf2993]

meanwhile, battletech starter box: $60. Comes with rulebook, mini novel, lore primer, two double-sides map sheets, two dice and two full teams of minis.

[@plasticbag4102]

1:33 hold up… my brother got me that box after id spent all of 2023 texting him questions. Now i wonder if he saw this video.

[@ThatTCG]

I suck at painting. Wish we had some product that was pre painted

[@livingglowstick1337]

You will forever suck if you don't do anything

[@bartoszgrzesiak9130]

Is Warhammer 40k Ultimate Starter Set good choice for someone whos own already Warhammer 40k Command edition?

[@Jacey2001]

Was going to get the leviathan set... Not worried about price, it's 300 dollars in Canada.. should I still get that? I can build terrain too

[@japro47]

Hi just wondering if the blood angel space marines are good for a starter

[@TheWhiteLycan]

Yes. They are a great faction to start with. Plenty of law, bespoke characters and their rules are some of the most well defined in the game. Note: they are strongest in melee.

[@MochiCatStudios]

ahh yes, emptying my bank account like Christmas all over again. How.... Wonderful.

[@fonariuz141]

if i can get a ultmate starter set for €128 or the starter set for €68. what would be the best deal? seeing as i am new to the hobby

[@louisbuss6068]

2/3 of a legal Ripper Swarm 😂

[@Hadorus1]

Think you will ever paint and make Necrons?!??

[@christinkunze]

I think Rob started a Necron army back in the day but not sure what the status is as he is fairly busy and not really appearing in TTT videos much anyways.

[@OperatorDraco]

great 40k video 😅❤

[@illumin4t152]

just curious, you give the price fo uk, us and australia, why not include the €?

[@mrthomas2847]

Leviathan cost 140 USD in Norway at the start now 160 USD

[@Raven-Yugioh]

Goes it have the mission cards in it?

[@Enja_Near]

I got Leviathan for $300 CDN. (CDN monopoly money is roughly the same as AUS dollareedoos.) Definitely worth it vs. Ultimate starter.

[@ScottAT]

Can I make a suggestion on your Custom Space Bears? Name them simply….. The Kodiaks

[@vhanekyharc1475]

it feels like the middle set is perect in a way. I dont care about terrain( which probably makes almost half the price)

[@freakygoblin3068]

Thought the Starter Set section was misleading showing painted figures. Remember we are talking about potential newbies who are looking at getting their first figures and trying the game. Also I would certainly guess the painted figures are not using paints limited to that provided in the basic set. I appreciate wanting to show your well painted figures off but is this really the place? Not trying to be disheartening, hopefully this comment is seen as constructive.

[@sittingbull607]

Ma fille de 10ans préfère peintre que de jouer. Mais c'est indiqué partout figurine non monté non peinte. Ça peut justement motivé de voir les autres et de belle peinture

[@CMTechnica]

You don’t need to paint them. And it’s literally plasters everywhere on the box: painting and assembly required

[@AzkuulaKtaktu]

Are these the new gaunts with special weapons?

[@TabletopTime]

No these would be the same models from leviathan

[@AzkuulaKtaktu]

*shakes fist*

[@FernaldiTan]

Leviathan Cost 150 Ultimate Starter Cost 125 with a change of 5 Sternguard, 10 Neurogaunts, and Data Cards for a not so good looking terrain 😥 Idk about you guys but I'd rather get the Levi Box for 25 more with more models and cards and dice tray that is more useful in game..

[@TabletopTime]

In Australia the difference is $120

[@GeorgioSubs]

Right now I can get the Ultimate Starter for $210 or Leviathan for $250. Seems like Leviathan is the much better value, right?

[@sniperlemming]

None of these boxes are for me because i don't collect Space Marines or Tyranids, and don't intend to, but this was still an interesting video.

[@Wolfineer_]

Dave called it, I'm currently building an army after not playing 40k since 2nd Ed and the only thing I'd be keen to pick up from the starter box is that mini-rule book.

[@notafan1139]

Does it come with paint or not

[@TabletopTime]

Nope

[@WilliamChoochootrain]

Do you not get transfers in this box?

[@mikem0ke]

Kinda nuts that only the smaller set has paints