The New Warhammer 40k Starter Box... Surprisingly Good?

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[@theodoreroosevelt3143]

it could be great if there was "big ass starter box" Ultimate starter box + Introductory box and two brushes you can unbox it, paint with your friend, learn and play together, everything in a single box

[@toferkrz946]

They did that for the Soul Wars starter set for AoS 2e. There was a regular version and one bundled with a hobby set. The bundle was even available at third party retail. The fact that they have not done a similar bundle for any subsequent starter product likely indicates that it didn't sell very well compared to the regular Soul Wars starter box.

[@-Seek-17]

me and my two friends recently got into the hobby earlier today! my friends shared the first intrudoctory box as one of them wants the tyranids and the other wants the space marines and i bought a small tau package!

[@barrymarchetto245]

Tau is my favorite, but its underloved by gw. For the greater good!

[@-Seek-17]

@@barrymarchetto245 For the greater good!

[@robouteguilliman7628]

All 3 of these people have been seen by Inquisition

[@-Seek-17]

@@robouteguilliman7628 oh god no

[@TyranidkingWill]

@@-Seek-17 I love tau aswell hence the name For the greater good!

[@Therealblacktux]

love these Australian release times, i can actually watch things from this channel as they release! go my fellow Australians!

[@B1-997]

and we get the prices for aus too, 150 for the starter set is less than i expected which is good.

[@Ultrama-ri7pz]

haha I already bought it! XD but I used up all my money thooo

[@B1-997]

@@Ultrama-ri7pz imma buy a copy in the next month or two, busy with getting ready to move atm. The box art on the starter set looks so good imo.

[@paddya3304]

A hearty well done to whoever made the 'what's in the box' jingle. Pure genius!

[@noosebrother]

I like the leviathan box. It will sit on my desk pride of place untill i finally get around to paint it😂

[@sundarworldTV]

Same, soon as I get to Dark Imperium and Indomitus i'll get stuck right into Leviathan!

[@bigshimsham]

Those marines are amazingly done, great job. Also love the colour scheme on the nids.

[@TheWhiteLycan]

Buying the most expensive starter set is basically substituting more character models (alot more) for some terrain. Personally I don't see this as a win. Leviathan is better for new starters who want to grow an army.

[@jdliefting8926]

I've got the middle starter set last week. This box is perfect for me because i already started the hobby and purchased all the tools, paints and 1 box of intercessors as a starting point months ago. Now that i want to start playing with an actual army, the middle starter set gives me a terminator squad, a captain and an infernus squad. I've paid 55 euros for the box at my local 3rd party retailer since it was on sale and i also had some points from my previous purchases for extra discount. So for someone like me this box is perfect to give some structure to my army which i can finetune with separate purchases in the future.

[@lekarabbit5181]

I think the middle box is more valuable than the big started box the gw terian may be expensive but that doesn't make it good value sense generic sci Fi bunker or ruins are easy to get but it's still nice for new players

[@Cremefreeeesh]

Super boring imo, but using existing terrain probably alleviates supply chain issues

[@lekarabbit5181]

@@zeroclutterartanddesign9637 yeah definitely a good choice for new players just not valuable after that

[@CatDribble]

Ummm can't say this is the best starter box they've ever made, I like the orc and space marines one they did years ago

[@taxman3749]

This is why it's so handy to download the PDF. of the Leviathan book to a tablet and trim it to the rules pages.

[@darkaiel]

Is that different than the free core rules pdf?

[@taxman3749]

@@darkaiel I don't think so.

[@coldtruth9431]

5:38 somebody get my guy a larger shirt 😭 bro getting squeezed out here

[@Paint_Quest]

Include the good old Euro as well ... please 😅

[@GameplayCasts]

Love the videos! Very jealous of your big terrain pieces and how much time you get to spend modelling! I got a Leviathan Box and I'm a bit gutted it hasn't come with some terrain to be honest! I did manage to get the game boards and the game tokens with it though! Keep up the good work 👍 Its channels like yours that have inspired me to get back into the hobby! Dark Angles FTW!

[@jacksondutton4291]

Been waiting for this one Dave! Great value for money analysis!

[@seth.willis.]

It isn't difficult to get the Leviathan box for the same price as the ultimate starter box. I did it just a week or two ago, and it feels like a way better deal at the same price (200usd)

[@SpoonyBard88]

Leviathan probably is not going to get a second printing, while these will be on store shelves until the next edition.

[@reachlol1]

Leviathan isn't getting a second print. So you'll only find them after this year second hand.

[@connorbaz5980]

@@reachlol1 damn, better get one ASAP then. How much longer will they be in production this year?

[@satire__]

what i got from this: More space bears & Hive Fleet Jotunn

[@edward3896]

6:48 OH MY LORD where has this game been ! NEW PLAYER ARRIVING ❤️‍🔥

[@pamelawalsh8153]

Back when my daughter was little, she wanted some sisters mini's.... she wanted pink, purple and gold with a tiger stripe theme..... don't know where they ended up as it was almost 20 years ago.... maybe I need to get back into painting mini's

[@catcadev]

Go for it! It's a boatload of fun. If you don't want a lot of stuff start with the Introductory set. You can add in the biggest one after, the two sets of five Infernus Marines will slot right in, and having lots of Termagaunts is a must, I've heard.

[@michaelmaddox2536]

If they added a chaplin in term armor instead of a captain, they would have gotten everyone.

[@catcadev]

My brother in the Emperor. What on earth. If you said "Librarian" I would have gotten it. If you said "Apothecary", I'd have gone "yeah sure, but the theming of the apothecary is a bit nicer". But the Captain? You *need* a Captain. The Terminators are returning bro, how would they not have a Captain. You NEED a Captain. Anyways, I left a dislike on your comment

[@michaelmaddox2536]

@catcadev ok but I said it because the leviathan box just came with both an Librarian and an Captain In term armor. This next box would have made so many new collectors terminator army feel complete.

[@mikewicked.x]

"Average" is over-selling that brush.

[@TabletopTime]

You're right. My sarcasm wasn't strong enough. The starter brush is hot garbage

[@ProjeKtWEREWOLF]

Aggressively shite?

[@djmaxxsaint]

Space Hulk is the entry to forever. 🔥🔥🔥

[@ClarissaMeyer]

That's a nice breakdown of those boxes!

[@darrellcolleran8884]

Thanks for the review, my brother and I are gonna give this box set a go….i like they way the painter swapped the color pallet between the armies!

[@gillian_seed8358]

I just got the introductory set to dabble my toes in painting and a couple small battles. I got it over here in the US for 15%off msrp at my local hobby shop. If I like it, they got like 18 Leviathan boxes and said I could have one for $185 it’s like right at 26% off. That’s awesome!!

[@Thatoneinternetguy]

Hey, I’m trying to get into warhammer 40k, do you recommend I get the ultimate starter set or the introductory set?

[@Sgt-lott10]

Been painting warhammer figures for a year but honestly, I'll probably still pick up some of these even though I play imperial guard

[@andrewcrane5105]

If you live in America get the damn Leviathan box it's $250 with $500 worth of models in it

[@jocelynchaumette1407]

Hi, thank you for this detailed presentation. Are the spacemarines of all these kits always Ultra marines? I'm not familiar with the game so I'm not sure to understand what it takes to transform a Space marine squad from Ultra marines to Dark angels for exemple. I'm not talking about specific units but just the basic generic one. Do you just need to paint the Space marine in green instead of blue and the terminator in ivory and green? Do you need to replace stickers and some sculpted symbols? Are there any of these in the starters?

[@g_y.rtz420]

Oh wow, outsider here hoping to get into 40k when life gets better, and although i knew its expensive and i knew gw has been raising prices recently, actually seeing the prices of these starter kits for the first time almost made me cry. I guess ill never actually be able to get into it and now im actually sad, like my heart actually broke seeing these prices. 😢

[@SystemUnderSiege]

I feel like it was a mistake to not include a shade in the intro set. Shoulda had an Earthshade. Shading for me was the "ah ha" moment when I first started where I could see awesome results in a fast fun way. It got me hooked and they add a lot so I think they should have done that.

[@leeaustin1]

but last two dont have paints so if someone new you have to buy all the paints which make it very expensive

[@DanielCosta-zp6jl]

the only thing that puts me out of trying this for the first time is all the painting, not for me if there was boxset already painted models i would give a try and buy a box

[@adye88]

The Original star craft artwork for the tyranids looks so cool.. what could've been.

[@alphawolf2993]

meanwhile, battletech starter box: $60. Comes with rulebook, mini novel, lore primer, two double-sides map sheets, two dice and two full teams of minis.

[@Dragonlord651]

Space marines and tyranids are my favorite factions so this set is right up my alley

[@xxxdevin247]

Currently reading/listening to 40K lore, plan on buying some sets and considering these sets and black templars, open to suggestions/tips. I'm just now dipping my toes into it.

[@LeftyRedd]

Very important thing to note, the softcover rule book is better than the slimmed down, hardcover 'The Rules' book because the softcover one has combat patrol missions in the back whereas The Rules doesn't have them at all.

[@charlesmcmanus4229]

Yeah, Assault on Black Reach was a great deal. - Dice, templates, the rulebook - Space Marine HQ - 10 Tactical Marines - 5 Terminators - 1 Dreadnaught (with a multimelta arm that was only available through kitbashing or ForgeWorld up til this point) - Ork HQ - 5 Ork Nobz - 20 Ork Boyz - 3 Koptas (first time in plastic) Retail price in USA: $75 I can’t tell you how many of those boxes sold and got new people into the hobby. And veteran gamers bought that box up to expand their existing armies (Hell, I started an Ork army BECAUSE of that starter box).

[@daniellogue8365]

The mid tier box probably the best value. The terrain addition to this and the biggest necrom starter in 9th is kinda a feels bad. Doubling price for some terrain because GW prices all sprues the same. The old box insert terrain was a great idea, I've used it plenty of times. And if I'm a new player or using this to start a new army I want the most playable models as possible. Also $100USD about what I picture is the most someone is going to impulse buy into this game. Which I think Leviathan priced a lot of people out who weren't already committed to this game.

[@Morrodin182]

The issue with the mid tier box is that the armies within aren't combat patrols. GW tries to promote combat patrol as the step into Warhammer way of playing. If you need to buy the missing models separately without discount, you are almost paying the same amount as you would for the ultimate starter box ... which is why the mid tier box is a huge trap and feel bad box. The introductory box is nice for anyone totally new to the hobby and unsure if they are gonna like it. The ultimate starter is the best box for new players that are 100% committed into getting into WH but don't own an army yet. Every other person is most likely best served by buying a combat patrol of the faction they like. At least that is my opinion about it 🙂

[@awesomlawson]

great video, good to see gw is recognising talent ;)

[@wuyangteioh7374]

Day 3 of asking for murray mondays

[@kikolokopo_toys]

Murray Mondays, Dave December and Jane January

[@magnetmussel]

I don't know what Murray Mondays would be but im all for it👍😄

[@madmerlinsart]

Planning to pick this up for a new series on my channel. This video has been very helpful, though I'd have liked a better look at the booklet included.

[@user-wy1zz4xo1q]

the ultimate set is perfect for 2 siblings wanting to play warhammer together

[@heddge7718]

Is there a video out on the painting of those terminators?!? Those are beautiful

[@asmodai6244]

He minis look great, although I intend to get the mid range starter set as its got those new terminators and I am unable to get them in any other way currently

[@ThroatJunk]

Are the models push fit?

[@Silverdragon83X]

I have to admit, for GW-conditions, the Ultimate Starter Set is really great! You have all in it to start playing a full game with all rules, terrain and a good board and even two good armies for the price! I still think a (cheap) cutter would round up every box, to really be able to cut out the parts of the sprues, that is not that easy for real beginners! Still a good set!

[@codybeanz9748]

does anyone know if i you get the training missions with the ultimate starter set im new never played but wanna get the ultimate starter set in case i get into it i can play bigger games in the future

[@janelewis9251]

Nothing better than Dark Imperium will never be made. Period.

[@fabianm2819]

black reach was the pinnacle of starter boxes, change my mind

[@BrandonL337]

honestly, as someone who bought the leviathan box and who's folks are getting interested in getting some models to paint and maybe play, the ultimate box appeals to me a lot for something to get them. 2 full combat patrols, one for each of them, a board, some terrain and the mini rules, all three of which would be great to have, though admittedly I wish there was a bit more to the terrain, but that's my only real complaint.

[@ThinAirGraFx]

Y after staring with the Leviathan set I almost wish I waited because would be nice to start with terrain and matts and such

[@jarlaxledaerthe4045]

Is that the exact same terrain as the last box?

[@freakygoblin3068]

Thought the Starter Set section was misleading showing painted figures. Remember we are talking about potential newbies who are looking at getting their first figures and trying the game. Also I would certainly guess the painted figures are not using paints limited to that provided in the basic set. I appreciate wanting to show your well painted figures off but is this really the place? Not trying to be disheartening, hopefully this comment is seen as constructive.

[@sittingbull607]

Ma fille de 10ans préfère peintre que de jouer. Mais c'est indiqué partout figurine non monté non peinte. Ça peut justement motivé de voir les autres et de belle peinture

[@plasticbag4102]

1:33 hold up… my brother got me that box after id spent all of 2023 texting him questions. Now i wonder if he saw this video.

[@tito_tito_gorgorito]

Is it really worth paying extra for the "paper" version of the rules when they get updated and corrected?

[@Jacey2001]

Was going to get the leviathan set... Not worried about price, it's 300 dollars in Canada.. should I still get that? I can build terrain too

[@Raven-Yugioh]

Goes it have the mission cards in it?

[@TyphusVonElder]

Assault on Black Reach the best, 80 bucks for a dred, 5 terminators, spacemarine tact squad and captain, and whatever else the orks had.

[@Im-the-greatest]

I got the starter box based off this review. I was going to get some anyways. These things are a pain in the ass to put together and paint. I suck at painting but if you put mine together I'll paint yours.

[@galadan88]

First time I've noticed the Level Up 5e books, have you made content about it or is it just something you enjoy?

[@louisbuss6068]

2/3 of a legal Ripper Swarm 😂

[@tyeklund7221]

Are these snapfit minis or more traditional?

[@japro47]

Hi just wondering if the blood angel space marines are good for a starter

[@TheWhiteLycan]

Yes. They are a great faction to start with. Plenty of law, bespoke characters and their rules are some of the most well defined in the game. Note: they are strongest in melee.

[@richardshiflett5181]

I suck at painting. Wish we had some product that was pre painted

[@sorubro2193]

What about the primer for the figures?

[@mrthomas2847]

Leviathan cost 140 USD in Norway at the start now 160 USD

[@theb3654]

I bought the Ultimate Starter box, im excited for my first warhammer experience.

[@fonariuz141]

if i can get a ultmate starter set for €128 or the starter set for €68. what would be the best deal? seeing as i am new to the hobby

[@jeffleake1960]

All starter sets should have the paints and such included . I'd feel ripped off if i bought one and that stuff wasnt with it

[@randyp9954]

Also hope the do this with their other systems.

[@illumin4t152]

just curious, you give the price fo uk, us and australia, why not include the €?

[@ScottAT]

Can I make a suggestion on your Custom Space Bears? Name them simply….. The Kodiaks

[@hll705]

The introductory set is brilliant. It gives an actual full introduction to the hobby to someone who is curious about the hobby. The starter set is a trap. The ultimate box is almost perfect. I’d say the lack of a full core book with all the lore detracts from the box. All of these boxes are nominally for beginners getting started in the hobby. If you are new, getting those 200 plus pages of lore and art really helps to immerse you in the world. Still, given that GW stopped including the full core book in starter sets ages ago, it probably is one of the best starters they’ve made.

[@TabletopTime]

We concur! The starter set is only desirable for established players seeing cheap minis - but with the mix of models, is it even worth getting in multiples? Better off waiting for the inevitable magazine collection or box splits

[@Enja_Near]

I got Leviathan for $300 CDN. (CDN monopoly money is roughly the same as AUS dollareedoos.) Definitely worth it vs. Ultimate starter.

[@bartoszgrzesiak9130]

Is Warhammer 40k Ultimate Starter Set good choice for someone whos own already Warhammer 40k Command edition?

[@Basil_Ghothickovitch]

I don't need any paint or cutting pliers or terrain, just miniatures for my Curiosly Assembled Collection. But bloody Games Workshop didn't send the Leviathan box to the retailer where I usually buy, so I can't get a good deal on it, otherwise there's no point. And so I would buy a Leviathan, but I will have to buy an average middle starter set, probably.

[@TabletopTime]

The middle box is definitely the best value for raw minis for an established collector!

[@WilliamChoochootrain]

Do you not get transfers in this box?

[@thatwargaming5459]

I would do it just for fun I love painting

[@GlorifiedShed]

2/3s of a legal ripper swarm lol. It makes sense that thats how theyre sold, but its still funny

[@lt.clifforthz3942]

Best starter pack in 2024 is a Resin 3D Printer

[@kinnebian]

YOOOo! I love what you guys do!

[@peterdejonge4590]

Good revieuw, but i missed the euro price a very big miss

[@mikem0ke]

Kinda nuts that only the smaller set has paints

[@Hukahey]

Awesome video ha ha add and nice work Warhammer finally doing the right thing and next they should be inviting you to HQ.

[@Wolfineer_]

Dave called it, I'm currently building an army after not playing 40k since 2nd Ed and the only thing I'd be keen to pick up from the starter box is that mini-rule book.

[@sniperlemming]

None of these boxes are for me because i don't collect Space Marines or Tyranids, and don't intend to, but this was still an interesting video.

[@vhanekyharc1475]

it feels like the middle set is perect in a way. I dont care about terrain( which probably makes almost half the price)

[@Hadorus1]

Think you will ever paint and make Necrons?!??

[@christinkunze]

I think Rob started a Necron army back in the day but not sure what the status is as he is fairly busy and not really appearing in TTT videos much anyways.

[@karmaghedon]

10:11 what unit is it?

[@SolarisWesson]

When Dave starts talking about the Ultimate box, my brain goes to KFC

[@TabletopTime]

The real ultimate box

[@FernaldiTan]

Leviathan Cost 150 Ultimate Starter Cost 125 with a change of 5 Sternguard, 10 Neurogaunts, and Data Cards for a not so good looking terrain 😥 Idk about you guys but I'd rather get the Levi Box for 25 more with more models and cards and dice tray that is more useful in game..

[@TabletopTime]

In Australia the difference is $120

[@user-zd7we1zv5i]

Guys stranger things is stranger things meets dnd- like, you’ve seen the show right?

[@TabletopTime]

What is a show?

[@user-zd7we1zv5i]

@@TabletopTime I mean, it’s kinda like KZbin, but longer?

[@randyp9954]

A step in the right direction. Not sure if I am coming back as quit at 4th edition. But a starter set is a great move. Hopefully they come out with more and add the core book to other sets too.

[@Gutterman-tn2ry]

This feels a lot better than the 9ed starter boxes. For those to get a combat patrol sized force you'd need to buy both the recruit and command editions, which actually came out to more expensive than this box, and once the Leviathan box is gone I expect this will feel like a much better deal. Overall, much better than expected from GW.

[@southmole]

I got the leviathan boxset for $340 on release (Australian) with free delivery, not too bad I thought.

[@chrisanderson3387]

Have I missed something? Is Jazza no longer doing TTT

[@afiblacksails23]

I already bought leviathan but now I want the ultimate… might as well set my direct deposit straight to GW.

[@Tigerheart01]

"...this time, they've got three." Uh, 8th and 9th edition would like to have a conversation with you. lol.

[@TabletopTime]

That time, they also had three ;)

[@sosdesos]

Wow…….. I remember you could buy 2 starter boxes for €120 and you’d have 2 FULL armies (ork and SpaceMarines) plus 2 rulebook.