The Newest BBCF Tier List Is WILD

[@bekomon]

Ragna being lower than characters like Relius or Tager is definitely a meme.

[@devilmaycrysarockingdontcome]

I would disagree with that too but this helps justify my losses so I'm gonna run with it 🤑🤑🤑

[@ladong644]

Relius is high tier tho, Ragna is true mid

[@RainbowLizardOne]

The fuck are you talking about with Relius

[@DAILY-MOTIVATIONer]

Istg I hate tager I wish he was gone from this damn game. He always pulls me in, has invincible moves, and does so much fking damage it makes me wanna die. How can I counter this fucker?

[@Killakob3s]

Mf thought he could sneak in relius and we wouldn't notice

[@gizoid5526]

That Ragna plscement is outright nuts Sure he's relatively simple compared to the rest of the cast but he's solid and has tooooons of results

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Yeah, he's definitely a solid character.

[@AJMurdoc]

Your points about “top top tier” and “crazy optimal on paper” holds so true. So we all gotta take this with a grain of salt. Also I’d love more BBCF on this channel! (Tager belongs in both D and GOD tier I will not elaborate on this)

[@siriusbacon2162]

Agreed on more BBCF! Game is still hype as hell as CB showed!

[@elios7623]

no need to elaborate

[@SilentAndy]

Yay... I accidentally play meta/top picks. 🤦🏻‍♂️ (I've always just played who I liked and don't pay too much attention to tier lists). I never liked meta (in ANY game) and the ppl that play meta tbh. I only looked at this one just now because I was curious to see what the general OPINIONS are on these characters. Tier lists are opinion at the end of the day. Now the long disclaimer is out of the way... I tend to play: Es, Litchi, Rachel, Mai, Izayoi, and Nine. Again, I just like the characters. 😂

[@whizthesugoi]

Gotta love how Jiyuna's style is different from the other Panda tubers, the music on his videos feel like part of the narrative, not background noise

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

FG Music is everything.

[@downtownhbrown4965]

Jubei being mid is pretty wild. When I first heard about the always crouch thing I didn't think much of it, but after improving and playing more Tao and constantly looking out for crouch hits for more real damage, it is an unbelievable handicap which just goes to show that Elyon is godlike for making him work. Bullet higher than Ragna is beyond whack though.

[@setxjrichie9745]

Saw Nine and Valkenhayn in almost dead ass mid tier and laughed. This tier list gonna be largely disregarded I'm willing to bet

[@DarkKnight179]

The Izayoi placement is actually how they ranked her before. For some reason, Japan rates her way lower than NA does. I ... dont think I agree, playing her she feels like she should be at least S-tier. She has every tool you would want, and even her downsides are whatever. Sure, you need to build up GA stocks, but thats like it. And you get those on block too.

[@NeoBoneGirl]

Ragna by far is the worst placement lmao, but I still wanna know why they put Azrael so low. To be as fair as possible to the list, he loses to almost all of the top 8 and probably more than half of the characters placed above him, but he doesn't lose THAT badly, I don't think. His bad matchups also all have the caveat that cuz his offense is nuts and he does mad damage, he has a high chance to get in once and end the round there. Very odd to me as an Azrael player

[@freyzerb.castro9124]

Yeah the characters from AA tier to B tier are really weird organized and I feel like some of them don't even belong there

[@grayshadow2597]

the four dude is downplaying their own char. Other than the characters they downplay and relius, I agree with pretty much everything else.

[@Arkirious]

Azrael has always been A tier, his mix ups are good and he had answers for alot of situations. I'd like to think he's kinda a character that exists in his own tier though. All it really takes is one small mistake to get obliterated by him. I main Azrael myself, but I started as Naoto and play and dabble in many low tiers.

[@polar6066]

terumis true punishment was sharing the lowest tier with celica

[@thepirateage6396]

FINALLY A BBCF VIDEO! we need more man pls.

[@zaychavitch5317]

As a Nine main with a friend who mains Naoto, I'm glad this list excuses all my losses

[@fiercetatsu6782]

Naoto is also much harder to just be good with so idk man

[@tabkg5802]

@@fiercetatsu6782 because Nine is easy?

[@CherrySmug]

@@tabkg5802 nine more to normal not to hard or easy

[@karmiccrotal3480]

@@tabkg5802 I'd say medium. Especially compared to Terumi Susanoo and Mai for example.

[@terrysalt]

Amane is my favourite character because I really like the idea of specialising in chip damage.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

I like the idea too (Strider/Doom), I just don’t like Amane.

[@Matriaxx85]

As a Bang player i thought it was a good character with good damage, mobility and mix ups but i didn't thought it would be placed that high. At the same time hearing you, its good to see that Fukku Bang was responsible for that, because as a player he has pretty good neutral, defense and combos and he is pretty consistent overall, so i'm happy to see him winning and making the top players re-considering the character's strengths because of him.

[@Megaman.ExE7]

Been playing this game tons on PS4 before the "re-release" so it's genuinely cool and exciting to see that there is new life being breathed into the game now. A CF tier list in 2022 is crazy

[@pedroportela6476]

I picked Susanoo because I wasn't good enough to play Naoto optimally, and because Ragna got boring after a while. And honestly, probably the healthiest decision I've ever made as far as Blazblue goes. Unga Bunga can be surprisingly therapeutic.

[@Jeremy7809]

Ragna being C tier is the lore coming true. Eventually he'll be D tier and then slowly removed from the list and no one will notice 😢

[@gspandem1204]

Didn't he become an omnipotent god at the end of BBCF, resetting everything, just without him in the picture?

[@Jeremy7809]

@@gspandem1204 that's right he entered God S+ tier above Rachel... But still forgotten 😭

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Ragna who?

[@Yepmyaccount]

The problem with a tier list like this is that a lot of those characters are still next to an "A" tier rank despite being situated in the middle, so it just makes it intuitively confusing, despite them technically having a viable ranking. It's also just an inherent difficulty that comes with having such a large and diverse cast. Too many tiers just makes it confusing and start to seem arbitrary. I'd just say they didn't really need the GOD tier, and could have just given that tier an S while moving everything down a rank--and then moving Ragna up because there is no way he's hanging out in the vicinity of Noel and Terumi.

[@Riltea]

I’m not really a fan of tier lists that go above S tier, & having most of the characters in A or S tier. It feels like tier lists are taking into account the character overall, which isn’t really helpful. Instead, it needs to be done relatively. B & C tiers are average, so most characters naturally should be there. Plus, if 90% of the cast is in B tier, then the list should become more specific & nuanced so that there’s more variance.

[@pon3d120]

As a Susanoo player I 100% picked him to unga and not to play optimally. If I wanted to think I'd play Hakumen.

[@holydiver3000]

Sure we can think a lot of the placements are nuts, but what I really like is that all these different points of view show how the game is still evolving and, in correlation it is a well balanced game. Except for top 4 everyone has their opinion and that's crazy if you think about it.

[@Thee_Znutz]

Woah finally a serious tierlist that I've been meaning to watch, I remember weeks ago I searched it on youtube and literally click baited by a tier list about the smash or pass bbcf characters, wild. Thanks Jiyuna and the 4 OGs🙏

[@LocalJanitor6]

I cannot fathom Tao's placement cuz I don't think it's possible for Makoto to ever be worse than her in BBCF (and I main Tao lol). Kagura better than Hibiki? Mu-12 Better than NINE? Imma need them to post a breakdown video on this or something lol

[@karmiccrotal3480]

Considering the HELLA damage Kagura hits, I could imagine why he's placed above Hibiki. Makoto above Relius though? Nah-

[@aclassicaltrove]

Ragna's placement is the wackiest, zero questions about it. The second weirdest is Relius, who has a much larger tournament presence than every other character in that tier. Both should be A at the very least, in my opinion. It's also weird to see Izayoi, Jin, Mu and Valk so relatively low. Also weird to see Lambda and Hazama this high. The list is definitely a little strange, but speaking as a beginner Nine main who's asked for the opinions of much more capable Nine mains, I'm fairly okay with the tier she's placed in. Her defensive tools are inconsistent and she has to get creative and extra careful if she wants to open people up. If the character is rushdown and can weave around her normals and also has good pressure (like Mai, Naoto, Izanami, Rachel, Mu, Litchi and Izayoi), woe is Nine. I agree with Plat's relative placement, and it's nice to see that opinions on Jubei have improved so much.

[@kaigai-nikimajikoi325]

C tier Ragna lookin a bit funny when you look at the characters above him at A and B tier.

[@Ianman629]

Love the Blazblue content. Thanks for getting me into the game it’s been a blast

[@vozy1]

Definitely would wanna see you make your own tier list Jiyuna!

[@MrRodRen]

I'm still in utter shock that Nine and Platinum fell as far as they did, outside of their respective gimmicks, them in the hands of a master DESTROY. Nine had always been top tier and Plat shot up there right along with Rachel. It's so weird seeing them so low, same could be said for Izayoi. Once she got buffed in BBCF she was legendary.🤯

[@zx3227]

picked up blazblue recently been having a lot of fun would love to see more blazblue content

[@unfairjarl]

How's the game for beginner ? Not too hard to find matches ? I've recently started playing strive as my first fg, but this game has me interested

[@zx3227]

@@unfairjarl I playing on na east and I can find games with decent connection at any time of day. You gotta look in the player lobbies though

[@unfairjarl]

@@zx3227 gotta love rollback netcode

[@justviewing8387]

would love to see more bbcf! maybe you could cover some tournaments like you do with strive? much love!

[@Bezza487]

I will now be citing this tier list every time I lose a Ragna game.

[@dr_gottwald8451]

Hurts to see my boi Terumi at the bottom, even if it is true. At least he has the meme potential at mentally damaging your opponent

[@hiramjackson8322]

yea just got back to playing and MAN does his neutral suck.

[@capefeather]

I kind of stopped playing because I kept getting kicked out of match spectate rooms. I didn't like BBCF's implementation of free-for-all rooms; I heard something about those getting feature improvements, but I never really got around to finding out if they've been put on par with the free-for-all rooms in GGXXAC, KOF98UM/02UM, etc.

[@YoshiSF]

Mai has been the anti-meta character since her release. She used to have rough MUs vs common (albeit lower tier characters). Seeing those MUs get smoothed out and thus increasing her stock is great!

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

I can't stand that character.

[@YoshiSF]

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI your frustration only fuels the Mai engine

[@ngkn2008able]

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI imma pick up Mai just because this comment.

[@Kanelel]

Why does a tier list need a god tier, an ss tier, an s tier, AND a AA tier? Just start at A tier.

[@ramburgervalentine7621]

Because to different how much is the separation between characters

[@noviedeos]

Because in some games the best character is A tier, and sometimes they are god tier The letters mean something

[@Simon_E32]

The letters are meant to denote character power, both relative to the cast and relative to a general sense of character power.

[@Kanelel]

@@Simon_E32 "relative to a general sense of character power." What does that even mean? I'm never gonna play as a blazblue character vs a street fighter character, so what does "general strength" matter? Why are the mid-tiers in a tier called "A"? What additional info am I gaining from that? What is it trying to tell me?

[@noviedeos]

@@Kanelel The mid tiers in this game are really, good. That’s why they’re in A tier.

[@CodeBlazeFate]

We need Jiyuna Ragna back to show them the power of the azure. They did our boy so dirty it's like we're playing story mode.

[@Layazeroda]

Ragna players walking out of the tier list factory rubbing their hands... Also man do you really like Stand Unrivaled. You have it playing on EVERY blazblue video.

[@DSKBR556]

bbcf is one of the best games of all time I wish I had played it instead of grinding these last years on T7.

[@Lurponk]

You should make a BBCF OST tier list and preach the message of Stay Unrivaled

[@ewaep]

When my community saw this list, We could only assume that this is a list that only considers matchups against the top tiers, because you don't need to consider playing against low tiers, cause no one else will play a low tier against you in tournament. Ragna's placement is way too low - far too consistent, has very few 'bad' matchups and quite a few decent to good ones. Mai's placement is way too high if you consider all matchups - she loses to all shoto chars. And Japan mustn't have Mu-12 players considering how badly they rate the char.

[@StellaEFZ]

Mu-12 players don't exist at all, what are you on?

[@ewaep]

Our top player is a Mu main. Granted despite never washing his hands, he keeps washing his hands of the char to play subs most of the time so your point is kinda valid.

[@shuwo1818]

Terumi is definitely a god tier

[@MattoCatYT]

I'm just happier to see the evolving opinions on Jubei as they've had many players in JP really coming into form with the character. Solid midtier

[@Discotechque]

The thing with japanese players is that they tend to forgo fundamentals and focus on specializations, cuz they expect you to be perfect in fundamentals. Just my two cents.

[@erickp3003]

Still hoping for more BBCF beginner guides, Lord Jiyuna. 😀

[@HunterSteven1997]

The weirdest placement for me is Hazama in S when almost every other list ever has considered him mid or low-mid and i don't remember him winning anything in the whole games lifespan. He doesnt have a good matchup spead against the top characters either except for arakune and maybe izamani.

[@1qesem371]

He’s got real solid oki options and high damage off of od since life steal doesn’t scale, also his movement in the air is comparable to valk or even arakune, he gets in and out really fast. I think the biggest thing is that one of the best haz players janson is really good at inflicting psychological damage w repeated resets instead of going for only the optimal stuff, when u don’t know when it’s gonna be your turn it’s easy to get schmixxed to death and haz has a lot of options that leave the opponent standing

[@JohnnyTightlips2007]

I really wish they didn't split Nu-13 and Lambda-11 into two separate characters.

[@jaychillins7574]

I am happy to see that all of the characters I considered maining are chilling in the S tier row

[@novasco6960]

Can't believe they did my boy Ragna like that. We need Jiyuna to make his own Tier List already to show everyone the REAL placements.

[@furix]

As someone who uses Mai, Celica, and Nine this seems about right. Mai carries me in match ups I get demolished when using Celica and Nine. Though I am also not good.

[@Killakob3s]

This tierlist is funny to me bc I agree with almost the hottakes that have to do with placing characters high, like bang for example. But all the placements where they place the chars low like ragna or izayoi I think is super cap

[@KenBladehart]

Personally, simple characters can take advantage of delay netcode But now, complex characters having that laser eye meme moment

[@Free_Hugz]

Honestly out of all the characters I would never be able to put into a list myself is Tager. He is one of those characters that has such a weird skill ceiling, just when you think you can place him somebody else comes along and makes you question your existence making you want to just lay down the whole match and never wake up

[@Sockscalibur]

Bbcf guides comin back? Oh hell yeah!!

[@Bobprotoss]

The way you describe people who play Susanoo is accurate. Izayoi and Nines on AA is a big cap.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Yeah, I thought they would be higher.

[@darkraifan007]

Ragna and Nine definitely need to go up

[@luizsparda5847]

I'm Main Azrael and Tsubaki and I'm happy to see them in the same position but I also want to say that of all the fighting games I've ever played, BBCF is the only one where the easiest characters to play are the weakest and hardest ones are the strongest and that makes perfect sense, because little effort=minimum reward and great effort=high reward, this is one of the reasons why BBCF is my favorite Fighting Game, but Mai, Es and Susanoo are easy to play and are almost at the top, Ark System, where are you?

[@SilentAndy]

That comment about Susano'o players was super accurate! 🤦🏻‍♂️🤣💀

[@Happy_Sailor639]

Jin being at the same level as Hazama is crazy.

[@dingo535]

I’m a scrub but I agree on Ragna, I definitely think he is stronger than that.

[@eduardoserpa1682]

I haven't had the time to play much of anything lately, but I've been itching to get back at BlazBlue for a few weeks. It might be time really soon.

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Too many games for me to play.

[@zerostarhx]

I need a Jiyuna tier list ASAP

[@DarthTayder]

more bbcf plz, love the content!

[@Zuw_1]

i'll wait for your tier list for sure ! i also think ragna kinda op maybe high tier not the top tier but high tier

[@boredomkiller99]

List mostly looks good. Only thing I would change is move Ragna up at least one tier if not two tiers and put Noel, Celia and Terumi all in the same tier.

[@Splatter5524]

Dont mind Terumi over there in Dying tier

[@KarmaSpaz12]

Imagine ASW take this list, the top 12 and make new BB with only those characters. Once again everyone is busted so no complaints.

[@Kinma15]

The assessment on many susano'o being bad/new makes sense cause I just steamroll most of them but the good one's are playing at least Ss+

[@retrored]

You should look at the Combo Breaker GF for BBCF. Susano-o vs Lambda/Es

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Watched it live, really good set.

[@retrored]

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI Same here, I can't believe I was seeing a Susanoo in Grand finals even though I constantly say that he is a lot better than people think because almost every tournament I watched (I mainly watch American BB) has had a Susanoo in top 8.

[@jorgeperez2872]

If the list doesn't have Izanami n1, followed by (in whatever order) Carl, Rachel, Arakune, Litchi and Es and maybe Izayoi, there's something sus.

[@m0ckyzo185]

I'm just glad I main objectively low tier characters like Bullet and Terumi. Ain't no confusion regarding my difficulty getting in

[@raikasha8152]

I don't know why people are so surprised are about S-Tier Takehaya Susano'o no Mikoto. He's the final boss of the franchise. Of course he's gonna be strong. Especially since he's **at least** strong and not possibly weak like other characters.

[@micahonline_]

that Naoto placement gave me hope then I seen Ragna and that shit just went out the window lol

[@grayshadow2597]

6 months and we are still waiting for tier list by jiyuna. Jiyuna, WHERE IS IT

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

I'll use it to save Panda.

[@kokonoegrav]

These tierlists gettin funky, like wtf

[@MJSHappy]

I'm pretty damn casual, and I don't watch every BB tournament, but it feels like whenever I watch one, there's a Susan, an Es, a Carl, and a Hazama

[@TheXYZStrain]

Jiyuna please make an Amane guide. You're the only fgc content creator that remembers him

[@seansubulade831]

I’m still hoping for the valkenhayn guide👀

[@hann8103]

Both my main characters Relius and Bullet are holding hands in B, so I suppose I have to be happy for them. At least they're together.

[@Marco-Antonio11]

Rachel top tier being that she is the most played pj and Jin in S being that she is the pj that has never been nerfed and has won the most tournament since the departure of the CF? I don't know, it seems strange to me

[@tubloid]

Where can I see these Japanese tournaments that Jiyuna is mentioning? I'm really interested in seeing the Bang player that he talked about.

[@coolmasterjg2450]

His name is Fukku, a japanese bang player I admire and he gives me advices and I be in his chat most of the time

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

They are older tournaments; the scene is not as active anymore.

[@third-ratedude4234]

Ragna In C? He have one of the best poke in the game, a godlike DP, Gauntlet Hades, and can dish out high damage combos easily, and he's in C tier?

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Also has a ton of tournament wins.

[@jpVari]

I played when this got rollback, for like not even a week. Got as far as learning some Rachel routes. Glad my character picking skills were finally on point in the game I decide not to play (at least I can pretend I'd be able to weild her lol, the number of tools and mechanics in this game overwhelmed. Perhaps a reason not to have picked her... Alas)

[@d9_1056]

Why'd you quit?

[@jpVari]

@@d9_1056 idk if I even played enough to call it quitting, but kof was coming and I knew I was gonna want to spend lots of time with it, bb felt like something I needed to either commit to hard for a long time to learn, or just be happy I learned the basics so I can enjoy watching it and move on with my playtime. It's a beautiful game but I don't think it's quite for me as a player.

[@Robstafarian]

@@jpVari I regret to inform you that the murderous despot Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud owns damn near all of SNK.

[@jpVari]

@@Robstafarian I know. I personally would never buy or play anything if I judged the morality of the people who own the companies that make my games so I honestly just don't inform my decisions with it. If they made a game that was in support of him somehow I wouldn't touch it. But ownership isn't personally how I'm gonna decide what fighting game to play. I respect you for doing that though, honestly.

[@nanakixiii3]

Everyone's God-Tier with a well placed OD-cancel. It's honestly why this game will always feel good, regardless of the wide tier-gap. Some of the worst characters in the game can find their way through so long as the player utilizes the universal mechanics to their fullest.

[@Naota753]

How much of this can be explained not only by downplaying but also match ups? Is Ranga particularly bad against Carl/Valk/Izayoi? I wanna see these guys do a match up chart next. Or maybe Kazunoko could go through it on his channel as well.

[@gemiplus]

idk about the other two, but Carl-Ragna is pretty Carl favored.

[@Charagodslayer666]

And just noticed my wiafu mai is SS. Feels good ngl

[@Hattori75]

As an Izanami player, I can't argue with this.

[@OGamelon]

This fella really hearting every comment

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

I read everything.

[@gwyndodrich]

I feel like Relius/Ragna are too low in this tier list

[@forte9910]

I haven't been able to stop playing this game but don't tell jiyuna I play rachel

[@khamissalhi3634]

No wonder that Jin Looks down on Ragna and Noel!

[@harryvpn1462]

Finally, the ragna downplayers werent insane afterall

[@mallow2902]

Two of my favorite characters chilling at the very bottom lmao.

[@freyzerb.castro9124]

That middle group is so weirdly organized lol also this is the first time I see a tier list with Nu and Lambda so far from each other, I feel like Nu is slightly better but not by a lot

[@sinshenlong]

I always wanted to learn naoto and bang so im inspired to learn them now

[@AffyMoon]

all my mains in high tier, except hibiki who's a solid mid, nice. Sussy and naoto in high/top tier and makoto nearing mid tier is super surprising but makes alot of sense. Ragna is by far the most surprising placement tho(no way he ain't mid at least) also it's a great thing about the game that Celica, the "worst character" can still hold their own against the top tiers

[@CursedShinobiClown]

Considering it was made by Japanese players that run Izayoi and Valk yeah no wonder they are so low compared to where they should be. They also seem to have gotten corner carried to death a lot against Lambda as she’s mid to high here as opposed to low… not that I’m complaining but her above Valk and next Izayoi is insane

[@itmeran1485]

The fact that Izayoi and Nine aren’t AA at least is wild

[@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz]

I'd love to hear the logic for ragna and nu being lower than tager wtf.

[@nerdydotdom7949]

As a terumi player who than swapped to be a Celica main... This hurts my soul

[@ANIMEILLUMINATI]

Low Tier Hero

[@nerdydotdom7949]

;-;

[@RockTheCloudfire]

Bring some Blazblue back to the channel!

[@kazueglassheardt7185]

Bullet being above d tier seems so wrong. Like besides having good damage I really dont see her having anything at all above other characters. And maybe I'm just bias as a celica player but she doesn't feel like a bottom 1 character to me at all

[@Sorrelhas]

To what do you attribute these changes? Better netcode? New players? All of the above?