the newest color film you have yet to use ... Adox Color Mission 200 is legit

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Ribsy

Ribsy

Күн бұрын

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@erichstocker8358
@erichstocker8358 2 жыл бұрын
Portra was historically configured to maximize the look of caucasian tones that is probably why the darker skins don’t always pop. But as a great film one can get decent representation of darker skin. Interesting that the Adox film does better.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Yea portra is great but not in that specific category
@GreyGhost-r4z
@GreyGhost-r4z 2 жыл бұрын
I have always had trouble with film and darker skin, and metering. I was so glad to see how this newer film renders
@HueyPProductions
@HueyPProductions 2 жыл бұрын
@@ribsy Portra is not but ektar is!
@Mike_M_Smith
@Mike_M_Smith 2 жыл бұрын
White people meter 18% grey.
@goldenhourkodak
@goldenhourkodak 2 жыл бұрын
Ektar is much better for darker skin tones and bad for lighter ones
@ReimannPembroke
@ReimannPembroke 2 жыл бұрын
The colors looked great especially in the prints! I hope Adox gives us some film stocks we can find reliably so we have more options!
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
fully agree! this would be amazing to have on a regular basis
@tomjanowski8584
@tomjanowski8584 2 жыл бұрын
Wish I had been able to buy this specific film before it sold out because I love the sample images I've seen.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
yea i think you will like it!!
@AlexOnStreets
@AlexOnStreets 2 жыл бұрын
Very excited for this! Looks like great colors and tonality.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Yea for sure. I think you’ll like it
@BillieRuffian
@BillieRuffian 2 жыл бұрын
I grabbed a couple of rolls of this recently and now I am going to keep hold of them and make sure they are in my bag for my trip to Jamaica this November.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely - that would be good!
@cropcircle5693
@cropcircle5693 2 жыл бұрын
That is really nice film and your shooting suits it well.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The film is really nice
@alexcarrillo5510
@alexcarrillo5510 2 жыл бұрын
Very Neutral Colors as I am hopping that they come out with a 400 Speed version, and in Medium format, as New companies are releasing, and making FILM!!!, and waiting to try a B/W with a ISO 1000 from Finland called Santa Rea. I am Glad that people are discovering Film, and holding a Film Camera than their Phone.... Adox is an old name it was once a competitor to Agfa, and hopping that Agfa Comes back with color film. I thank Lomography for starting a revolution of film shooting again, I never did let go to my film gear... Still Have them. Thank You
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Nice to see them making this
@NunoAlmeidaPhotography
@NunoAlmeidaPhotography 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the boat photo and the skin tones you got with it! Can't wait to give it a try.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@aidenmcgeehan428
@aidenmcgeehan428 2 жыл бұрын
I love that you do legit dark room work with your prints never done it before but it just is so cool
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Yea for sure. It’s a lot of fun
@nevillewatkins4997
@nevillewatkins4997 2 жыл бұрын
I love the look of that film. I'll definitely be looking out for it.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Yea it’s a really nice look
@nevillewatkins4997
@nevillewatkins4997 2 жыл бұрын
@@ribsy I've got some on the way. Thanks for the tip. 😃
@wookieohft7435
@wookieohft7435 2 жыл бұрын
Damn bro you're legend! such a warm and full of enthusiasm video! The boat man shot is incredible, the way how beautifully film handled this is sooo impressive
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@camerasbymax8301
@camerasbymax8301 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and I love the shots of the person working on their boats!
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Yea same! My favorite shots
@charlottebligh649
@charlottebligh649 2 жыл бұрын
This was a really good video! The chemistry in the film looked great and the colors really popped both on people and objects, hope Adox's next stock keeps the trend going
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Yea agreed! Hoping for the best with this stock
@TheFinnGamer
@TheFinnGamer 2 жыл бұрын
I photographed the same flowers (3:57) at Safelight just a couple of weeks ago :D
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Haha nice! A great place
@TheFinnGamer
@TheFinnGamer 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I do all my developing there and have even bought a few cameras. Cool people
@thefilmdaddy
@thefilmdaddy 2 жыл бұрын
Ah man that boat shot is amazing man! A great time to be a film photographer indeed!
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yea I really liked that shot
@IFrAnIKOz
@IFrAnIKOz 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video! Thanks for the review. Blues and reds on this film just pop
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@ForTheViolence
@ForTheViolence 2 жыл бұрын
Fuji pro 400H is very missed in my film stack. It makes melanated skin look natural and beautiful. I recently shot a roll of it that I was hoarding away. And I’m reminded as to why it needs to come back.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
I fully agree! 400h is the best
@Marcello1b
@Marcello1b Жыл бұрын
Your plastiki-camera.... big respect 👍. Beautiful focus, Great photos, great film.
@ribsy
@ribsy Жыл бұрын
yea its a great camera
@santiagodequillota
@santiagodequillota 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that colours looks awesome.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Yea it’s great
@ViaOjo
@ViaOjo 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update Ribsy!!! Please keep us updated on this film stock!!! BTW, you do nice work!!! - Your Yank friend across the pond😃
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
I won’t be tracking this stock 😅 good luck
@krissjacobsen9434
@krissjacobsen9434 2 жыл бұрын
The reds and greens in this film is insane! I have shot two rolls so far. One shot at box speed and the other one stop overexposed. However I feel it is too grainy for my taste, and severely lacks exposure latitude. But most of my shots have been indoors, so maybe I'll change my mind when I take more outdoor shots. I will however continue to buy it to support Adox and color film that is not made by Kodak or Fuji. I think this film is best suited on sunny days, especially outdoors on parks and other places with a lot of green.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Yea! The reds especially
@Magnusscipioiterum
@Magnusscipioiterum 2 жыл бұрын
From talking with one camera repair place, his business is booming in the Overhaul of Manual Camera. Yes there is a resurgence in Film Photography and it is happening.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
its definitely made a comeback!
@tomjanowski8584
@tomjanowski8584 Жыл бұрын
Finally ordered a roll for Germany....film and shipping were $53. While I don't think any 35mm film should cost so much, it is definitely a unique film with a fresh color palette. Would love it if this exact emulsion could go into production, though another new emulsion from Adox will also be welcome.
@ribsy
@ribsy Жыл бұрын
thats pricey but its a very nice emulsion
@MD-en3zm
@MD-en3zm 2 жыл бұрын
Adox is a great company. They are really dedicated to film and not just trying to make a buck, and they’ve come up with some really innovative products. Adox 20 is amazing - highest resolution film ever created, even better than tech pan. Nice to have color films for different skin tones. Portra works well for lighter skin, but darker skin is better with some warmth. Ektar works pretty well with darker skin too in my experience.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Yea they are really trying. It’s exciting
@peterangusphotography3423
@peterangusphotography3423 2 жыл бұрын
This is exciting news and hopefully I’ll get my hands on some soon. The colours look great, thanks for sharing. By the way, will we see you at the Analogue Spotlight in Worcester next month?
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Not sure if I’ll be there next month
@douglasliebig5625
@douglasliebig5625 2 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to buy some in the US for a couple of months. Haven't been able to place an order. Hope some eventually makes it over here.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Yea this one is tough in the US!
@bluebiegrace1828
@bluebiegrace1828 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a beautiful film stock. I’m going to get me one to try. Thank you for sharing.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@Eclectachrome
@Eclectachrome 2 жыл бұрын
hey! awesome video! I actually just did one too haha loving this new film and its very exciting for film, Adox is an amazing company and I'm excited to support them and see where they go! Love the prints :)
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Yea adox is great - doing cool things
@jmackultra
@jmackultra 2 жыл бұрын
I really would like to try this. The pictures you took on it look fantastic.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Def worth a try
@jmackultra
@jmackultra 2 жыл бұрын
@@ribsy just gotta see if I can find some.
@arildedvardbasmo490
@arildedvardbasmo490 2 жыл бұрын
Cool to see it being RA-4 printed! Really appreciated that insight there.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Ivandotjpeg
@Ivandotjpeg 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this is the old Agfa optima formula. Or vista….
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think so
@ThenameisAntti
@ThenameisAntti 2 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to do some night long exposure in color lately. Maybe I'll have to see how this does with that sort of stuff. 😄
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
yea give it a shot!
@FRONTPhotography
@FRONTPhotography 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Got some of this in my fridge, just waiting for the sun to come back before I use it
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
haha for sure! good to wait a lil longer
@PhotographerVA
@PhotographerVA 2 жыл бұрын
It WOULD be huge....if any were available LOL. I'm excited about it....but I'm pretty skeptical if anything is going to come of it.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Haha yea it’s tough right now
@RYANPARKPHOTOGRAPHY
@RYANPARKPHOTOGRAPHY 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video! I also bought some of this to test out as well! excited to test out for my channel as well!
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yea! You will enjoy
@PrestonTalkZZZ
@PrestonTalkZZZ 2 жыл бұрын
Hey dude, these look great! Been considering this film for a liitle bit, thanks for the samples :)
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
For sure!
@GreyGhost-r4z
@GreyGhost-r4z 2 жыл бұрын
Wow ! That is a nice film. Can’t wait to get some
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Yea it’s a nice one
@PGphoto2011
@PGphoto2011 2 жыл бұрын
This film reminds me of Fuji reala 100. Was one of my favourite films back in the day.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@IainMorrison
@IainMorrison 2 жыл бұрын
So cool that you were shooting a brand new film, I'll definitely be looking out for some. Great images from Saturday, it was great finally meet you. Bill is the name of the boat repair guy, I got a couple of good shots too 🙌🏻
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Yea was nice to come across that scene
@MakersTeleMark
@MakersTeleMark 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could dig in my vault for some funky test master rolls to crowdfund something. All said, reminds me of what I would use the SIllberia for. I am not a fan of the big grain though. Ektar meets P160 + grain. I do like it for a certain look. Very 70's if you give it that scene. FKNA. Ektar FTW though for fine grain and darker complexions with big light. It is truly sterling, and many people miss their stocks by thinking of image instead of light, people, and reflection.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
For sure!
@keithfox2995
@keithfox2995 2 жыл бұрын
good stuff, nice to see prints as opposed to just scans!
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@poniatowski3547
@poniatowski3547 2 жыл бұрын
I was lucky to get 2 rolls of this. I’m hesitant to shoot it though because once shot it’s gone. Probably shoot one and keep one. It is interesting that we generally say that pro films are fine to minimal grain. Now that we have digital is it not better to leave minimal grain look to that and embrace the grain in film? I don’t know but I find it interesting how older perceptions regarding grain still exist. Great video and shots. This film looks so good.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Film is meant to be used. Give it a go
@Astyanaz
@Astyanaz 2 жыл бұрын
I would be glad to see the proceeds go to making 120 film again.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@b.brauner7500
@b.brauner7500 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ribsy, I have now shot and developed two rolls but the results didn't blast me away. Especially the sharpness of the film doesn't seem to be in the ball park of other consumer grade films. What was your experience?
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
This is def not professional film by the standard definition. But I really liked my results - it’s def a tad grainy
@scottplumer3668
@scottplumer3668 2 жыл бұрын
I went to their website and it's sold out! I guess that's a good thing. It looks great!
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Yea. More coming I think
@wblynch
@wblynch 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree about the boat shot and a wider lens. I feel 50 is just right. With WA there’s a tendency to bring too much into the shot. Then it gets busy and you don’t know where to look. But a normal lens makes you pay attention to the subject. If that shot was wider we would lose the worker and especially the interior detail in the background. I think you nailed it.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@ralphstark9961
@ralphstark9961 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, any suggestions the two big players in the city (B&H and Adorama) don't seem to have it listed on the website.
@mikeschaid959
@mikeschaid959 2 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for a few weeks now. I'm not sure more original stock is coming like he said. It seems all originated from a store called fotoimpex and they are sold out. I found single rolls on ebay for sale for like $50 on ebay from Australia 😬
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm im not sure. Check the adox site and see
@ralphstark9961
@ralphstark9961 2 жыл бұрын
@@ribsy thanks i will check out their site.
@bcegerton
@bcegerton 2 жыл бұрын
Really like those colours, so, is it available yet and if so, where can I get some?
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
It is! But looks to be sold out in most places
@bcegerton
@bcegerton 2 жыл бұрын
@@ribsy I’m n no rush, I’ve three on the go as it is and mainly shoot digital, no way I could afford not to
@adamwelch1866
@adamwelch1866 2 жыл бұрын
I agree about portra 400. It is very bland. I use portra 800 or lomo 400 instead. Lomo 400 has great brown tones with a lot of life, but can get muddy if the color balance isn’t exactly correct.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Yea proper exposure is def key.L
@GurmeetSingh-fr8uo
@GurmeetSingh-fr8uo 2 жыл бұрын
Could you kindly do teach a newbie to film how to process colour negative from scratch please.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a lot of those out there already 😅
@AdamAllen
@AdamAllen 2 жыл бұрын
This is IMPRESSIVE!
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
It is!
@RichardStroffolino
@RichardStroffolino 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for giving more info on Color Mission, can't wait to get some state-side. Also your video quality looks amazing in this one, whatever you changed up, it's working great! (if you didn't change anything, ummm idonno)
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Haha I’m using a new camera - black magic pocket cine camera 😄
@RichardStroffolino
@RichardStroffolino 2 жыл бұрын
@@ribsy 🔥
@erichstocker8358
@erichstocker8358 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could get the film in the US. I got on their website right away but nothing available in North America. I love their BW.
@tylerhuttosmith
@tylerhuttosmith 2 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh damn!
@tylerhuttosmith
@tylerhuttosmith 2 жыл бұрын
@@ribsy smuggle some in for us next time you’re back here!
@ultra707
@ultra707 2 жыл бұрын
What's the name of the photo meet up group? I'll have to check them out the next time I'm over there.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Analog meetups
@z2yzx
@z2yzx 2 жыл бұрын
Which canon you using my dude? Also any chance you have any extra I can buy off you, they are sold out haha
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
In this video, the 300c
@antheajohnson4234
@antheajohnson4234 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad its so expensive. I remember seeing a news article, when it forst came out. I was so excited...until I saw the price
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
It gets pricey outside of Europe for sure
@Zetaphotography
@Zetaphotography 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't spending $100 on 5 rolls to USA. Plus it's a limited run
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
There is more coming
@pieterdegelder6563
@pieterdegelder6563 2 жыл бұрын
Did you used the canon eos 300v in this video?
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
yup
@hoppy760
@hoppy760 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried this with sunsets?
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Na
@xander1052
@xander1052 2 жыл бұрын
Damn you were in Richmond? Why do people I watch always go to my home area when I'm away lol
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
lol just missed ya
@johnsomers8269
@johnsomers8269 Жыл бұрын
Wow! How do I get some?
@ribsy
@ribsy Жыл бұрын
not sure who's selling it now
@moot6794
@moot6794 2 жыл бұрын
Wanted to get some but the shipping to the States was a BRICK
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Haha yea I can imagine
@mrstandfast2212
@mrstandfast2212 2 жыл бұрын
Looks great, but £18 a roll?
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
it shouldn't be that much. i think its getting marked up a ton given the tight availability
@rockhills
@rockhills 2 жыл бұрын
I thought this sold out as soon as it dropped since it was limited?
@Dan-TechAndMusic
@Dan-TechAndMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Adox stated they had enough stock for four years. They still need to cut the film to 35mm, perforate and load it up, which is the main bottleneck in keeping the film in stock in stores.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
It’s available at some retailers and I think more is coming
@yonatandesparzo8238
@yonatandesparzo8238 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!!!!!
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Yup 😀
@ericespinal9961
@ericespinal9961 2 жыл бұрын
I actually got my hand on 5 rolls here in the us
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
niceeeee
@therestorationofdrwho1865
@therestorationofdrwho1865 2 жыл бұрын
Would be cool if they did some super 8.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Yea definitely
@46thandBliss
@46thandBliss 2 жыл бұрын
5 months later and this is still unavailable :/
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
😐
@46thandBliss
@46thandBliss 2 жыл бұрын
@@ribsy :D
@charleskoonu
@charleskoonu 2 жыл бұрын
The salvation of film photography is in Europe right now.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Haha seems like it!
@krishnansrinivasan830
@krishnansrinivasan830 2 жыл бұрын
Nice & Thanks :)
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
😀
@ayouthwellspent
@ayouthwellspent 2 жыл бұрын
Dope!
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😊
@Michael_Maxfield
@Michael_Maxfield 2 жыл бұрын
I miss Fuji Reala.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Never used it!
@thewanderess
@thewanderess 2 жыл бұрын
How to be part of this secret society?🥴 Ps: really excited about the new film. Thanks for the update.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
haha its not so secret!
@hectoraltamirano6978
@hectoraltamirano6978 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the middle ground between ektar and portra
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
I do feel like it has hints of ektar
@SinaFarhat
@SinaFarhat 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! :)
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
😀
@theblackmanarmedwithacamera
@theblackmanarmedwithacamera 2 жыл бұрын
OHHHH...WOW! THIS FILM IS THE TRUTH!!! I INSTANTLY SENT TO BUY...BUT IT IS OUT OF STOCK SADLY! MOS DEFINITELY GONNA KEEP MY EYES ON THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE!!! DOPE VIDEO AND REVIEW!🤘🏾🤘🏾🙏🏾🙌🏾👊🏾 - THE BLACKMAN ARMED WITH A CAMERA
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
haha word! be on the look out for it
@iammarcdaniel
@iammarcdaniel 2 жыл бұрын
so much new film... so little moneys.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Haha yea …
@brianbassett4379
@brianbassett4379 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone using film anymore is doing it for nostalgia's sake... or for hits on YT. The thing to remember is no one "loved" film it was all there was, it was expensive, temperamental, even more expensive to develop, and requires a shit ton of chemicals. Film cameras are to photography as vinyl records are to music. Lots of people are going to say they are better somehow... they're all wrong, just ask those that have grown up using both of them. Stay safe.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
You mad tho
@brianbassett4379
@brianbassett4379 2 жыл бұрын
@@ribsy Not really sure what that was support to mean... if anything at all. You just keep trying to sell people on anything you can so you can pick up dirty pennies off the ground kid. It looks like you should be selling people on something you really know about... perhaps ribs, or other fatty food products. Stay safe and good luck on the money hunt Skippy.
@bryanotero123
@bryanotero123 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianbassett4379 i beg to disagree. Film is like source. And digital is like sample like in music. Difference is yes more expensive. More imperfect. Vynil needle screeches. And negatives catches dust particles. But a needle can be cleaned and so the negatives. And u get a darn good yet an imperfect result from an old medium.
@brianbassett4379
@brianbassett4379 2 жыл бұрын
@@bryanotero123 "Darn good"... translation: Good enough... for you maybe. Ever hear of FLAC? Also, there is no film camera that can compete with digitals today Samsung is expected to market 576-megapixel sensor cameras in 2025. As I said, so of "you" like the nostalgia of film, or vinal, but they are both inferior to digital.
@kabaottoemulsion1869
@kabaottoemulsion1869 2 жыл бұрын
Sold out bro-! (`!`)
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh damn!
@PhillipKinsley
@PhillipKinsley 2 жыл бұрын
Ugh!!! sold out.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
yea i know! more is on the way apparently
@user-ti9zc1xv2b
@user-ti9zc1xv2b 2 жыл бұрын
Idk, I don't get the hype, the film stock looks horrible.
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Horrible? Really?
@user-ti9zc1xv2b
@user-ti9zc1xv2b 2 жыл бұрын
@@ribsy Yeah, I think it does. It's grainy, it's not a true 200 speed. While colors are subjective, it they all look off in terms of saturation, strange casts. On another note, I don't buy Adox's words, their CEO themselves had said that it will literally cost them hundreds of millions of euro's to develop a color film, suddenly it's possible?
@leominerva3494
@leominerva3494 2 жыл бұрын
Alla pellicola non ci torno ..potete fare anche un milione di video.....e basta.....
@ribsy
@ribsy 2 жыл бұрын
Como?
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