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@maplejet2 жыл бұрын
Wow, two wheel of discipline videos by 2 youtubers who definitely do not know each other uploaded moments apart!
@BiggusJakeus2 жыл бұрын
As coincidental as Watson, Mayfield and Wilson coming back against their own teams…
@celticwarrior85742 жыл бұрын
You mean this isn't UT's channel!?
@skillganon6062 жыл бұрын
And we've always been at war with East Asia.
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza2 жыл бұрын
He knows, it's like a serious version
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza2 жыл бұрын
@@BiggusJakeus also Tom Watson getting a similar punishment, and he doesn't even play football, fuck Bettman (still better than Manfred, but that's not a high bar)
@ErikCB9122 жыл бұрын
NFL’s most notable suspensions over the last 10 years: Sean Payton: 1 season for allegedly being involved in bountygate Ray Rice: 2 games for video evidence domestic violence against girlfriend Josh Gordon: suspended full seasons for smokong weed Greg Hardy: 4 games for photo evidence of domestic violence against girlfriend Tom Brady: 4 games for allegedly deflating footballs Ezekiel Elliot: 6 games for domestic violence of which there was no proof and dropped charges Calvin Ridley: suspended entire season for $1500 bet Alvin Kamara: possibly no suspension for beating the crap out of a man at the pro bowl Deshaun Watson: 11 games for nearly 30 accusations of sexual misconduct God I’d like to know what Goodell is smoking
@George_Fl0yd2 жыл бұрын
Ray Rice had every right to knock her out cuz his girl spit in his face and violated his manhood. I would of definitely done the same if I was in that situation. Ezekiel Elliott shouldn’t of got anything. He was found innocent but nooooo nfl wants to be a ally for wah men Greg Hardy is the one who should of got a bigger punishment. Unlike Ray Rice, Greg wasn’t defending himself nor was he disrespected so this is a case that nfl should of treated the same they are handling deshaun watson Deshaun Watson should of had 6 instead of 11. Most of the charges turned out to be false only about 5 had actual any evidence of it Alvin Kamara DEFINITELY should of got punished. The only way he could of got out of it is if the guy Called him a racial slur
@santumi22982 жыл бұрын
wait so what was the context to Ezekiel Elliot, were the 6 games like, while he was under investigation, or is the NFL smoking
@George_Fl0yd2 жыл бұрын
@@santumi2298 the nfl was smoking on the Ezekiel case basically
@MPHswayze2 жыл бұрын
@@George_Fl0yd hateful incel comment
@danielleasewala22252 жыл бұрын
@@santumi2298 Context is jerry jones was in a dick measuring contest with goodell at the time and that happened. Zeke was collateral in the power struggle as I believe this was just after he signed that massive contract.
@ThatShadowSiren2 жыл бұрын
If the NFL didn't have double standards they would have no standards. Period.
@MarloSoBalJr2 жыл бұрын
Also, a towel gets wet when it touches water
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza2 жыл бұрын
But they don't, that's the whole point
@warlordofbritannia2 жыл бұрын
@@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza They do, they clearly think betting and smoking weed is exponentially worse than beat a woman unconscious and/or a couple dozen (alleged) cases of SA
@darthsilversith6672 жыл бұрын
Just like democrats
@warlordofbritannia2 жыл бұрын
@@darthsilversith667 Ffs
@lastsinnersa80022 жыл бұрын
Tree and FivePoints spinning the wheel of discipline at once to back up the bonus Dumpster Fire stream. Finally someone calling this saga as it is. Keep up the grind, Five.
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza2 жыл бұрын
Why there wasn't a Clickbait this week?
@lastsinnersa80022 жыл бұрын
@@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza Scooter is in Africa, Grossi was at Green Bay practice, Perna was also busy. They were the only ones around that day.
@calebwinfield14032 жыл бұрын
@@lastsinnersa8002 Grossi out there trying to get himself a roster spot.
@TheChrisPhoenix2 жыл бұрын
@@calebwinfield1403 #GBWR1
@clipobserver2 жыл бұрын
@@calebwinfield1403 and to get yell at by Rodgers
@matthewshortle52742 жыл бұрын
This video was uploaded literally a couple of minutes after Tree uploaded Wheel of Discipline
@djboston66542 жыл бұрын
These two coming out at the same time was the only thing more planned than DeShaun coming back to play the texans.
@NathanSpies2 жыл бұрын
KZbin is getting really stupid with making content creators censor normal non-swear words it’s making FivePoint Vids sound like Porky Pig
@vanessastegall2 жыл бұрын
Community guidelines are to blame.
@sirrandomguy012 жыл бұрын
When you get the DumpsterFire Wheel of Discipline Vids
@vengefulfork71692 жыл бұрын
Perfectly timed with Tree
@diegozein67022 жыл бұрын
Who’s here after Tree’s video?
@keylens.69002 жыл бұрын
🙋♂️
@alesolren2 жыл бұрын
🙋🏽♀️
@Danishsnufkin2 жыл бұрын
🙋🏼♂️
@vanessastegall2 жыл бұрын
Not me
@Djcolinc2 жыл бұрын
🙋
@jacoblarmor85392 жыл бұрын
I find it very odd that Goddell raised Watsons suspension to exactly 11 games, just in time for Watson to make his cleveland debut in Houston. Clearly a business decision if you ask me
@warlordofbritannia2 жыл бұрын
Nah, I’m sure that’s just coincidence…
@theunwelcome2 жыл бұрын
I will never, ever understand any part of the Ray Rice saga; the two-game suspension, the team defending him before watching the video, the fact that she stayed with him after he knocked her out cold...
@darthsilversith6672 жыл бұрын
She don’t want to give up the life 🤷🏻♂️
@warlordofbritannia2 жыл бұрын
Abusive relationships are horrifying things-that last one actually makes the most sense, sadly…
@voiceofreason26742 жыл бұрын
Smh that Lil B song defending ray rice explains the mentality of getting beat in the hood
@DrSquiidyz2 жыл бұрын
currently sitting in an abandon mall watching five point life couldn’t be better!
@GageRyanVideo2 жыл бұрын
As a Steeler fan, I can absolutely promise you, nobody's forgotten about Ben's past. lol
@burnbabylonburn78 Жыл бұрын
Captain Fat…well, you know🤣
@RudieObias2 жыл бұрын
The American Justice System is also broken, so I guess that’s fair
@warlordofbritannia2 жыл бұрын
Heck, even the white players (see Big Ben, Tom Brady, etc) get more leniency that the black ones (Josh Gordon, Watson, etc)
@CJEstradaMartinez2 жыл бұрын
The inconsistencies in the length of suspensions handed down by Roger Goodell are maddening and mind-blowing.
@nasis182 жыл бұрын
If it's something off the field, especially violence towards women, the NFL is like meh. If it is something that seems to affect the integrity of the game i.e. betting, deflated footballs etc, then they drop the hammer. The NFL doesn't want to give off the perception of the game being tainted. They don't care what their athletes do as long as they deliver on the field.
@akenohimejima91822 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about the Ezekiel Elliott case where his suspension was placed and lifted multiple times throughout the season despite the fact the girl admitted she was lying
@brandonmaddox48622 жыл бұрын
I truly believe that cost us a super bowl that season
@JarradBruessel322 жыл бұрын
@@brandonmaddox4862 it's the cowboys dude. You aren't winning a super bowl no matter what
@kennycai8695 Жыл бұрын
Hindsight proved that was just a pretext for Goodell to flex over Jerry Jones, since at that time, Jones was very vocal about getting Goodell replaced as Commissioner. It backfired, and well, let's say humans can be REAL petty when it comes to payback.
@brayrock81902 жыл бұрын
Roger Goodell is so goofy
@1223jamez2 жыл бұрын
Roger Goodell is a disaster!
@markbollinger13432 жыл бұрын
I feel it’s time to start suspending the players for a year, multi million dollar fines, and their team can release them with no payment penalties. Maybe even start fining the team or forcing forfeits. There is a violence problem among professional athletes, it is time to bring and end to it. Is mere mortals would probably lose our jobs, and reputation. So should these people.
@jessehaskins78492 жыл бұрын
The NFL just wanted Deshaun’s first game back to be against the Texans to boost ratings. It’s working exactly how it’s supposed to.
@HaydenU2 жыл бұрын
sad but true.
@calebwinfield14032 жыл бұрын
Before I watched this video, I had a small penis, no girlfriend, and hated myself. None of those things have changed but the video is pretty good.
@defnoteliv2 жыл бұрын
why did they only give deshaun 11 games and ridley the whole season just for betting on draft kings
@jabarricharles-barnes6582 жыл бұрын
False equivalence
@byff23232 жыл бұрын
Tree and Five back to back
@bryantfuehrer20952 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention Ridley's full season suspension for betting on a game that he had no influence on...
@Giantsfanlewis2 жыл бұрын
love your vids 5 points. as a fellow giants fan it's nice to have a football KZbinr with the same favorite team. that said, the nfls amorality has left such a bad taste in my mouth that you won't have me rooting by your side this season or for the foreseeable future. ill continue to give you the watch like and share treatment though. keep up the great work
@skillganon6062 жыл бұрын
You're lucky you got someone halfway normal, I've got scooter.
@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza2 жыл бұрын
@@skillganon606 still more normal that Skip
@andrewpadaetz55492 жыл бұрын
the cost of the 1971 1st round pick for tampering was worth it if you're a Fins fan..it brought you Don Shula, who led the team in his first five seasons to playoff appearances every year, 3 Super Bowls, 2 Lombardis and the perfect season of '72. OK, no more trophies after that but Shula lasted all the way until 1995 by which time he was the NFL's winningest coach.
@Postalbike32 жыл бұрын
The wheel is completely broken. I remember back when the Ray rice news came up the league only gave him like 4 games after assaulting his lady. Then changed to a year suspension 🤨
@KingBueno6192 жыл бұрын
Here after UrinatingTree
@sportgamer32552 жыл бұрын
6:45 wait the dolphins were caught tampering multiple times 😂😂😂
@BryanPlaysYGO2 жыл бұрын
If I had a Nickel for each time Mark Wahlberg was mentioned leaving superbowl 51 early in a video today, I'd have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened twice
@poocrafter22 жыл бұрын
So we're just going to brush past the Dolphins losing a 1st round pick for Tampering in 1971 and then 50 years later have now lost another 1st round pick for Tampering
@robertkeefer15522 жыл бұрын
Anyone remember how Paul Horning and Alex Karras were suspended the entire 1963 season for gambling?
@grantpollmann61752 жыл бұрын
You and tree posting the same thing, coincidence, I THINK NOT!
@fan.of.feet23102 жыл бұрын
It is now time to play WHEEL OF DISCIPLINE
@SonofTuscon992 жыл бұрын
The NFL racks disiprine.
@12thMandalorian2 жыл бұрын
The NFL did nothing about Geno Smith’s DUI, now we have to watch him play 😂
@ryancarroll16972 жыл бұрын
Well that’s not a coincidence given Tree’s recent upload
@bryantsteury89102 жыл бұрын
RIP John Clayton indeed. Damn, sucks he's gone. Adam, ESPN would immediately gain so much credibility if they hired you and Tree. Here's hoping friend
@splitman11292 жыл бұрын
They can't even come up with own content. Definitely don't want to see them on ESPN.
@ThinkTwice22222 жыл бұрын
5P why do we act like the NFL is the government? Players are independent contractors, why should they give Any discipline outside the courts? If Watson worked at McDonald's there wouldn't be any punishment
@patsfreak2 жыл бұрын
Booing Goodell after that game was amazing even if I was just yelling at my TV until my wife reminded me about the sleeping baby
@grebelzz1j602 жыл бұрын
Give Goodell a break! Hes only as consistent as actual court systems. Right!?
@deronforde1360 Жыл бұрын
Since this video’s release, The NFL has suspended Chiefs linebacker Willie Gay for “violating the personal conduct policy.” The incident: Gay broke a vacuum cleaner during an argument with his child’s mother a few months ago, and no charges were pressed.
@robbielewis47402 жыл бұрын
I had to go to a wedding instead of watching the Steelers first Pre-Season game.
@bryantsteury89102 жыл бұрын
For AP: "old school southern discipline of his toddler son which ended up making contact with sensitive areas"
@hbsupreme14992 жыл бұрын
Yea cuz your a full on athlete and an abuser
@wasteland50002 жыл бұрын
Goodell on his high horse. "We feel that 6 games is NOT LONG ENOUGH! Watson will be suspend for, uh, (turns to assistant) how many games till the Texans v Browns?" "11 games, sir." 11 GAMES! DESHAUN WATSON WILL BE SUSPENDED FOR 11GAMES!"
@joeringrose2 жыл бұрын
How do you fail to bring up Greg hardy. He had a ten game suspension then appealed to get 4 games. Same year as Brady’s suspension
@Imjustacowboy2 жыл бұрын
W vids
@YodaSmokes2 жыл бұрын
I’ll never defend roger goodell. But sadly, he’s about 100x better of a commissioner than Adam Silver. Silver completely ruined the Player- team relationships. And ruined the contracts of the league which allowed kd to go to the warriors in 2017. Worst commissioner in sports history hands down.
@fernandofigueroa24082 жыл бұрын
If you are talking about KD,let's talk about LBJ first whom did it in 2011 when he went to Miami. Don't get me wrong,both are pieces of crap but fair is fair even tbough neither deserve it.
@sheckyfeinstein2 жыл бұрын
Let’s not forget about personal, individual responsibility is still a thing.
@filanfyretracker2 жыл бұрын
How the heck is some puff puff on the happy grass worse than domestic violence? that really is some uneven enforcement.
@speedybuilds28782 жыл бұрын
This is a BIG reason why I don't pay attention to the NFL anymore.
@brandensimmons6532 жыл бұрын
The dynamic duo with two videos
@Eiuol818532 жыл бұрын
I think one of the reasons for Goodell's lack of consistency in regards to the personal conduct policy has to be attributed to the NFLPA's fecklessness over the last two decades. Perhaps a stronger union would have negotiated a CBA where a binding arbitrator's (in this case, Judge Robinson) decision would have been the final on the Watson's case instead of still allowing the Ginger Hammer to wave his gavel willy nilly.
@chillsportsfanatic3722 жыл бұрын
NBA MLB NFL NHL Owner Tier List maybe?
@Uncultured_Barbarian4652 жыл бұрын
Everybody gets on the NFL for the Ray Rice light suspension, but as I pointed out to a coworker at the time, "There had to be District Attorneys who saw that same video and decided not to prosecute. Why doesn't anyone roast them?" And as an addendum to the Adrian Peterson story, the NFL and the Vikings weren't going to do anything to him, until one of their business partners, Mariott Hotels, I believe, made a statement that they were pulling their deal with the Vikings. Then you saw results. As soon as I heard the news, I posted in my Fantasy Football Group Page that if the NFL didn't do anything to him, as Commissioner I was thinking about removing him for the entire year. Only one person in the league complained, and I said to her, "You'd think being a mother with two kids would have some bearing on your decisions.", but she was all "Fantasy Football is Fantasy Football." Some people's children ... Anyway, good work on the video.
@robertosborne86942 жыл бұрын
Maybe that mom disciplined her kids the same way as Peterson?
@Uncultured_Barbarian4652 жыл бұрын
@@robertosborne8694 Not that I know of. I saw them on a fairly regular basis, and they didn't exhibit the signs. A couple of my classmates had abusive parents, one hid it well, one didn't.
@robertosborne86942 жыл бұрын
@@Uncultured_Barbarian465 thanks for the feedback. Didn’t mean to disparage anyone.
@Uncultured_Barbarian4652 жыл бұрын
@@robertosborne8694 It's cool. No real disparaging there. She's good to her kids from what I see, but she is often shit to others, including her friends like me. So you questioning her character wasn't far off. 😂😂
@mjwatts19832 жыл бұрын
Wheel of Discipline Turn turn turn Tell us the punishment we will receive
@nicolassmith72412 жыл бұрын
Tree and Five Points teaming up to tackle the issue of discipline in the NFL. I am grateful for you both
@Riley_Mundt2 жыл бұрын
I still maintain that no punishment should have been handed to Watson until after the cases were all finished, and then only if he was found guilty. As it stands he's been given a punishment because of an accusation, and that should never be acceptable.
@kingarthur32362 жыл бұрын
You have way too much faith in the broken American justice system to do anything lmao
@JarradBruessel322 жыл бұрын
Oj was found not guilty yet we all know he fucking did it. Also they couldn't criminally charge him due to lack of physical evidence. He didn't leave bruises on the women and without videos or recordings there is no way to determine what truly happened. But the fact he admits shit happened and still doesn't understand what he did wrong coupled with the fact he was using massages as an excuse to get with these women makes him look pretty guilty. If you want to sleep with a woman or get a hand job why would you be useing massages as an excuse especially with the team helping you set these up and also making the women sign nda's
@romiarkan4502 жыл бұрын
If the NFL truly wanted to punish the Patriots, they should've taken away their fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh round draft picks, cause Belichick can't use his top picks well
@Channel-23s2 жыл бұрын
9:10 well Gordon did get warm 6-8 times and still chose to smoke weed same with the Olympics not allowing weed
@brodyjames412617 күн бұрын
God forbid you take a knee
@penguinreloaded77562 жыл бұрын
He is not sorry. He's a monster. Lifetime ban wasn't going to happen, but I thought 2.5 years & 50M fine (to be distributed to foundations that help sexual assault survivors) would have been acceptable. This is gross. The Cleveland Browns are gross. Other teams (including my Carolina Panthers) are gross to have pursued this piece of garbage.
@OGDeepStroke2 жыл бұрын
Will you do a weekly bit, roasting the losers from college? A weekly Triggering [X] fan base.
@_Moses442 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe Haynesworth is such a whit supremacist
@highlordaaron692 жыл бұрын
Roger Goodall: Calvin Ridley gambled and tried to make more money off me, 17 game suspension get rekt . Watson, Rice, etc doing actual criminal acts. 5-11 game suspension. Yea Ridley shouldn’t have gambles on nfl games but I feel that things like gambling and deflate-gate and marijuana should have way less harsher punishments then plays actively brake the law on a higher level.
@slibertas19962 жыл бұрын
Like an innocent player getting suspended 6 games (Zeke Elliot)
@jimnfl71342 жыл бұрын
Watson: *The NFL Won't Let Me Play, This is NOT FAIR!* Kaepernick: *Yeah, I know the Feeling.* Antonio Brown: *Take my advice and...Just Walk Away!* Side note: Enough Jokes about Giants beat Brady, that is NOW over 10 YEARS AGO!
@andydrews44392 жыл бұрын
With all due respect…you are LITERALLY one of the funniest people on KZbin 😭😭😭😭
@grebelzz1j602 жыл бұрын
Best of the Clickbait 5, for sure
@brandongordon23922 жыл бұрын
One again... The league has ruined lives over PEDs, Weed, and gambling, yet when it comes to sexual assault, it's basically turned a blind eye
@nomar5spaulding2 жыл бұрын
What I fail to understand is why does the NFL have legal standing to punish players for literal crimes? Why is the NFL a separate legal entity from the *checks notes* legal system that's supposed to handle all this stuff?
@miked317842 жыл бұрын
Roger Stokoe Goodell is a clown and a cheater. He doesn’t deserve to be the commissioner of the NFL. He is unfair when it comes to punishments. He is also a “ha ha he he”, which is someone who is laughing at us when he is also serious. He is someone not to be trusted. Not too mention, he used to work for the Jets and he will punish teams in the same division as the Jets severely than other teams in the league.
@joermnyc2 жыл бұрын
I think having to be QB for the Browns is enough punishment. (Sorry Cleveland.)
@sbonfye80582 жыл бұрын
I don’t agree that any NFL players should be punished for anything they did outside of work, the NFL doesn’t own them.
@dergiggler36032 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about Calvin Ridley
@tristancampbell49412 жыл бұрын
Adam Silver solos
@floridagator17652 жыл бұрын
Inconsistently, inconsistent 😟
@hommie7892 жыл бұрын
And the number of games at 11 now. It seems to be really odd but if you look at it Deshaun Watson's first game back is against the Texans. No wonder it wasn't 12 or 14 games
@ethanpinella30742 жыл бұрын
And then there is Dan Snyder
@leoschenk21182 жыл бұрын
The wheel of discipline can't be broken, the whole point of the wheel is that it's fucking random, that's the damn joke
@LordyT342 жыл бұрын
But remember, we can't have players taunting the other teams, think of the message that would send to the children!
@BoondockGore2 жыл бұрын
Just don't gamble on games... Murder people I don't care 🤷 ~Roger Goodell
@lance24652 жыл бұрын
NFL Discipline is broken!
@warlordofbritannia2 жыл бұрын
I don’t get why people think the NFL is inconsistent-they’ve actually been exceptionally consistent in punishing weed users and players making money on the side far more severely than domestic violence and SA Big Ben: 4 games Deshaun: 11 Ray Rice: 2 Average: 5 games Tom Brady (allegedly having someone else maybe deflate a football, probably, possibly): 4 Josh Gordon (weed): Literally whole seasons, about 60 games altogether across five different suspensions Calvin Ridley (placed a few bets on games he wasn’t playing in): indefinitely, one season minimum Average: about 11-12 games per offense
@crypt_yt93282 жыл бұрын
Watson is innocent!
@fernandofigueroa24082 жыл бұрын
What?No Vontez Burfict? Wow FPV,you are losing some edge.
@tylerleggett50882 жыл бұрын
The calvin ridley situation is hypocrisy squared. How does Watson get 11 games while ridley gets a full season suspension? Last time I checked, sexual assault on over two dozen women *allegedly* is way worse than sports betting. The league also gets millions from an activity now legal in most states and expexts their players not to place a bet when ever other commercial during a game is compelling you to join in the fun. I know it's just preseason, but I have zero interest in watching the nfl amongst the plague of bad pr and legal woes. I quit watching wwe amongst all their scandals in 2019, so it won't be hard for me to cut out this cancer from my viewing schedule
@hmu9582 жыл бұрын
Goodell is The #1 grifter. Undisputed. And the owners cant get rid of him.
@JonathanMerlinSymmank2 жыл бұрын
If the Browns didn’t have the Texans on their schedule, Watson would’ve been suspended for the entire season!
@ImGoingSupersonic2 жыл бұрын
Ma says Hi for the fuxkin 88th time.
@kennycai8695 Жыл бұрын
Not disavowing Watson of any wrongdoing here, and unless one of his cases actually gets hauled into a courtroom, we will never know the real details. However, the way this case was handled reeks of a half-hearted attempt to virtue signal in the face of a certain movement which will definitely put me on a microscope. When the Ray Rice incident happened, there was not a big fuss about labels and rights (this was in 2014, anything past 2016 is when things get real crazy). Twitter was a lot tamer back then, and believe me, if a 2nd Ray Rice scandal happened today, that would have been an automatic indefinite suspension, even if it's just to keep the wannabe activists away from digging through the League's proverbial closet for dirt. The so-called Wheel of Discipline is really just a PR tool to make the League look good in light of off-field scandals and controversies, cause at least on the field, you have multiple witnesses watching the infraction. What a player does off-field is really anyone's game, but seeing how much the League is pandering to the wannabe activists (possibly hoping to rope them in as a free PR team, the fools), it really depends if any labels are being trotted out. Seriously, when AB called Mike Mayock a slur, the most he got was a fine (until the Raiders decided enough was enough and outright cut him). If the roles (AB is black, Mayock is white) or genders were reversed, it would have been the Pandora's Box of crap storms if word got out.
@bengibson32982 жыл бұрын
Tree's wheel is more functional than NFL's wheel
@stirlingallan6712 жыл бұрын
Calvin Ridley! That’s all I’m gonna say
@SadfoxGuyver2 жыл бұрын
Suspension for college. Right
@slibertas19962 жыл бұрын
Watson already sat a year.
@thefriendlygamer22212 жыл бұрын
We forget what ben did because he didn't do anything
@andrewd11312 жыл бұрын
Went back to back with you and tree
@clipobserver2 жыл бұрын
Of course, why is Dan Synder still a owner?
@A._Dot2 жыл бұрын
Calvin Ridley
@skankhunt472 жыл бұрын
I may be wrong but I thought it's still alleged? I don't think he should be punished until proven guilty. And if guilty it should be jail time not just suspension right?