The NHL has a serious gambling problem

[@CanMav]

The leagues hate gambling BUT taking gambling money for sponsorships. Every league has a problem.

[@esperago]

I'd imagine the NHL cracked down so hard on Pinto because they are trying to show their (gambling) sponsors that they have the integrity of the league and players locked down. It's probably got nothing to do with morality and ethics and everything to do with saving face with gambling advertisers. My second comment is how the heck did Pinto get caught? It seems like the easiest thing in the world to get a friend to bet for you. Ask him in person. No record. Hand him cash. No record. How'd he screw that up???

[@adamrogers9386]

​@esperago do the proper research, and you'll find out.

[@milanek1527]

​@@esperagoplayers locked down yet they could be gambling and pulling the strings behind the scenes.

[@TjayK2]

5 out of 10 commercials are for sports gambling websites. If they say they hate gambling they’re lying through their teeth. They literally allow gambling companies to sponsor teams and patch their logos into the Jersey.

[@esperago]

@@adamrogers9386 I've heard the league's statement. I've heard the gambling rule read out. I've heard armchair analysis. I've now heard Pinto's side. Okay, I'll go do more "research". What are you on about? You're one of the worst kind of commenters.

[@DukeOfDiabetus]

The prevalence of gambling ads is so fucking gross. Every commercial break or even when they can sneak it in between plays is annoying. I have a close family member that is a gambling addict and that is one of the worst and most insidious addictions out there. So them promoting it like crazy is annoying as fuck. "Get into the game with sportsbooks" oh you cant enjoy hockey unless you have some money on the game. Get fucked. Gambling in prosports makes everything way more suspicous as well

[@ViperBitten]

And they're fully aware of the problems, but don't care because the NHL is a business first and foremost. Gambling ads should be prohibited just as tobacco ads are, in my opinion - at least this is the case in Canada. Advertisements are of course necessary, and something has to fill in the time between periods, but gambling is despicable. The most annoying advertisements are the finance ones though (which is a fancy form of gambling for most people anyways). If you took a shot every time there was a Questrade ad on Sportsnet, you'd be blackout drunk before the second period began, and don't get me started on how bad most NHL players are at acting (looking at you, McDavid/Scotiabank).

[@07foxmulder]

If your family member can’t handle seeing a commercial on tv, maybe they should be wearing a helmet 24/7.

[@Dratchev241]

@@ViperBitten i have said for years, if we can't have joe camel lighting up a smoke in a ad then anything age restricted should not allowed to be advertised as well. Bring back ciggie ads or all of it should be banned. fair is fair.

[@kobewoods872]

​@@07foxmulderbro most addicts don't like seeing stuff related to their past addictions. It's literally trauma. I really hope you never get addicted and have to go through this.

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

​@@kobewoods872 so a food addict can not go outside at all because he will get triggered. Like tough shit.

[@mcraider3933]

Huge W for disliking gambling and not allow gambling sponsors. Idk what it is nowadays but the amount of gambling and gambling-sponsored content you see nowadays is ludicrous. It never used to be that way. And it definitely doesn't do any good.

[@ViperBitten]

It seems like anything related to games has gambling now. Sports? Sports betting. Video games? Lootboxes and microtransactions. Hell, even eSports has gambling. An industry built on taking advantage of desperate and/or mathematically challenged and/or drunk individuals is going to naturally do everything to reach even more of those people, especially now that the internet allows you to blow your kid's college funds without leaving home.

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

😅

[@xp7575]

It's because they pay WAAAAAY more than any of the other sponsor, not saying that to defend creators who promote them, just explaining why it happens and why that makes Eck a good guy for not taking their money cause it is a HUGE payday he is forgoing to stick to his morals

[@mcraider3933]

@xp8969 that's true, but the thing is it's always been that way with gambling-related stuff. I'm just pointing out how I've seen a huge surge in gambling-related content on TV and the internet in the past few years.

[@Wanup_Vodka]

him and shannon are gems

[@Reganpwnsrc]

huge respect for turning the sponsorship offers down, especially in times like these. I aspire to be someone that chooses to do the right thing like that

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

There nothing wrong with making money 😂

[@Reganpwnsrc]

@@kasrasadrehashemi174 do what you gotta do, I probably wouldn't hesitate in his position. But the world would be a better place if most people just had bit of integrity

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

​@@Reganpwnsrcnothing wrong with sponsorship 😅

[@Reganpwnsrc]

@@kasrasadrehashemi174 I never said there was, but if you think accepting vast sums of money to promote gambling to your audience is a okay then you're a fucken clown

[@arseface2k934]

​​@@kasrasadrehashemi174 eck has over 100k subscribers, that's dozens if not hundreds of recovering or current gambling addicts. there's definitely something wrong with promoting betting sites to those people.

[@kirinhayashi979]

I got an ad for BetMGM on this video💀

[@iagmusicandflying]

They get you one way or another. It's disgusting.

[@TjayK2]

As the video ends I get an ad for PointBetCanada Can’t make this shit up.

[@Krepak7809]

It’s disgusting what the NHL is doing to their fans. Shoving gambling down their throats for some money.

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

It not like you do not have to pay attention to it.

[@Metalmara]

​@@kasrasadrehashemi174You have a very simple way of thinking.

[@nsant]

​@@kasrasadrehashemi174 When I'm watching a pre game show, I want to hear about the game not what every single announcers parlays are.

[@SavingPrivateRy]

During the playoffs i think i saw about 80 Bet365 commercials.

[@joeyanthony7831]

​@@kasrasadrehashemi174 dude where is your tiny hat in your profile pic lmao

[@mooseheads887]

1:24 My respect for this channel just went up 10-fold. Not easy to turn down an easy payday, but I appreciate it so much when I see someone in the media turn down these gambling company sleezebags. Way to go Eck! It's brutal watching CBC, TSN, and Sportsnet right now. Just constant talk about odds and payouts. Honestly, I'm not sure if I will let my kids watch this content in the future as it just doesn't seem appropriate for children.

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

😂 😅😊

[@MrDuds1984]

It’s so bad that your local announcing teams are giving the odds during the game on the game they are calling, it’s sick

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

Yeah what can we do about .we just need to accept it.

[@joeyanthony7831]

​@@kasrasadrehashemi174why are you replying to multiple comments saying the same thing lol. Your face and your nose says it all

[@zachroberts1988]

As a society, we have replaced Tobacco and Alcohol promotion to going all in on Gambling... Apparently vices that dont directly effect your health are ok now...

[@jefflinton9851]

Umm... alcohol ads are just as prevalent, if not more, than gambling ads.

[@Tdesparza]

Legalizing sports betting was probably a mistake.

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

No

[@chizorama]

Morally yeah, financially no. Just how the modern world rolls...

[@bradbradman6050]

The Lines were so much looser and it was so much easier to win and be profitable back when it wasn’t wide spread legal. So I agree.

[@chizorama]

@@bradbradman6050 The mafia did it way better & made it more fun. Of course corporate America had to come in & ruin it like they ruined Vegas.

[@Dhemize]

Thank you for having the moral standing to avoid gambling ads. It has been out of control for a while now

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

Well you will get used to it.

[@autodbcs2667]

Ottawa looked really good in those highlights.

[@23mylo60]

The entire world has a gambling problem, I’ve never seen something promoted more in my life, it’s like got milk ads but for gambling. I went to a carnival today and they literally had a gambling wheel there it’s ridiculous

[@kingsally2864]

you must have forgotten about how they used to promote beer then

[@DavidWsTrainVideos]

I’m wondering if the 41 game was because proxy betting is harder to track, on what they are betting on…. but again, I am sick and tired of having these gambling ads just rammed down my throat every time I try to watch a hockey game. Canadian Satirists The Beaverton put it perfectly with this headline “Sportsnet Apologizes for interrupting gambling commercial with Hockey”

[@DisgruntledHippo]

All sports have a terrible gambling problem. If anyone really wanted it to stop the players' associations would make perpetrators miss a whole season...

[@krakenspectacor]

@@DisgruntledHippo they have…

[@minisam1988]

Same thing is in most European football leagues, Bookies, and betting outlets are everywhere in the EPL and is horrid when you see the damage the behaviour can cause to the people themselves and their families. If a league is going to promote betting on sports with advertisers isn't it a little hypocritical to then ban said players from using the service the league is happily advertising.

[@Taubogason.40]

England is crazy with 10-15 different betting sponsors on the jerseys, lots of them from asia too. Watching bundesliga on german tv (sky or dazn) has more gambling adds than real expert opinions in halftime or before the game. And they still charge us more and more money too!

[@arseface2k934]

​@@Taubogason.40 In 20 years the NHL will have ads all over jerseys and the ice just like European leagues. it's inevitable at this point

[@nuudelz3711]

Yep even crystal palace and wolves have literal sham gambling companies created this year as their kit sponsors. It’s horrible but at least in football there isn’t literally commercials every whistle for one of them

[@iamwonderFil]

thjank you to you and other hockey youtubers that REJECT gambling sponserships! (hockey junkie as well, great intergrity)

[@leatherbound4233]

The NHL caring about protecting the "integrity of the game" LMFAO!! The game has no integrity when bombarded by adds and they could careless about traditions any more. My team is the Blackhawks and they will now have a gambling add on the jersey. My family and friends are done with watching Hockey. Maybe we'll watch a add and a Hockey game will break out.

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

Sure yeah ....so how Kyle beach doing.

[@arseface2k934]

​@@kasrasadrehashemi174 every one of your comments on this video has been so incredibly silly lol

[@timojurenka5125]

Commercials on NHL jerseys is crime

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

Well they lost alot of money from covid so what could the nhl do.

[@PlexMan79]

@@kasrasadrehashemi174 they gave fucking ads all over the ice / boards / stadiums. As well as commercials lmfao they do not need milk advertisements on the jerseys and helmets

[@bronzeandsteel3344]

I guess Pinto bet on the wrong horse

[@PygmySurfer]

I got an Atlantic Lottery ad before this video 🤣

[@tannermurray420]

major respect for u for not taking gambling sponsors

[@justinleclair122]

I think gambling is gross, that being said, 41 games is a harsh punishment imo

[@kyloctopus]

It has to be harsh. Players gambling on their own games can break the NHL.

[@justinleclair122]

@@kyloctopus it wasn’t on his own games tho. It was on a different sport

[@kyloctopus]

@@justinleclair122 Wait until you see the punishment for someone gambling on NHL

[@chungang7037]

I've had family destroy their lives through gambling, whole life-savings burned at the Casino and other insanity. I know the model was supposed to be "hey we can make money on every guy who wants to drop 20 bucks on the game this week" just the same with alcohol but clearly more people have problems with gambling addictions

[@nahiyanishtiaque1283]

Got a theScore Bet ad with this video

[@abrodeur]

I think the largest issues with players betting even in other sports. Is they could rack up major debt and be offered to influences games inorder to wipe out there betting debt. You have to wounder how many games have been influences due to betting. Given how easy it is to place bets surely someone with connection to a coach or player could change playing style to increas odds of certain bets hitting. Maybe not enough to win every bet but just enough to winning more then your losing.

[@benwilson6559]

You’re spot on.

[@tommcd8471]

Great take Eck! i know i've called you out for what i thought some bad ones before So i gotta give ya a shout for the ones i agree with too. When it comes to the NHL and gambling their integrity has to be thrown into the question at this point...its scummy, its shady and its getting harder to shut down people that say "The NHL is rigged" because im starting to believe that if enough money was on the table they would 100% compromise the integrity of the league and even the sport.

[@angelaa.9915]

I’ve been hoping someone would make a video about this, and here you are! Thanks for shining a light on this issue

[@nuudelz3711]

Every single sport has been infected by gambling. It’s absolutely disgusting having to drive down the 401 seeing gambling betting ads. This isn’t just on the league it’s on government ls as well for allowing the promotion of it even more than smoking used to be pushed in the 50s This is besides the bullshit from sportscentre and TSN removing analytical segments to discuss the good damn odds.

[@ChangLRC]

true and real. whoever has started gambling already knows how to do it. don't Schill it to all the kids watching

[@Greenfrom3]

I respect you for not taking gambling ads. Ill like and sub to that

[@SuzuNoUtaTX]

All the leagues going “don’t gamble but sell our gambling partners for us” is the biggest double standard. It’s sickening. As for Pinto. Once they proved he wasn’t betting on NHL it should have been a fine or a small suspension not half a damn season. Not because it was gambling but because he was proxy betting which is a legal issue.

[@inutero10]

Legalizing sports betting is destroying a lot of people. There was a reason it was unlawful and unregulated. Dangerous dangerous stuff. People’s lives are being destroyed. Why not just legalize hard drugs next?

[@philchurch27]

It’s crazy to see man. I remember before there were ANY ads for MGM betting, etc. and then all of the sudden, in like every league, those ads started popping up and they started sponsoring teams & arenas. And now there are major channels of sports networks where they show the betting splits/over-unders - those aren’t just weird corner channels anymore, they’re main stage. I hate that companies like MGM betting have such a huge hand right on the face of major league sports in the US now. It is agreeably disgusting.

[@hadzic4512]

The world has a huge gambling problem.

[@CLo-ly1ic]

Just always remember with gambling you need to find an edge!! I'm always contacting goalies to throw games when heavily favored and give them a substantial cut!! Always make sure the back up is on board as well once starter is pulled.. It's all about everyone involved keeping quiet and not being too selfish...

[@schwamieboy1]

This is outrageous that it's happening but it's the sign of the times. Anyhow mad respect for your position on the matter

[@m.o.n.d.e.g.r.e.e.n]

good on you for not taking gambling money, it's not only uncool it's just really boring and its so annoying we are now deluged with it constantly now

[@Belphegor879]

Gambling isn't inherently bad; we engage in it all day long. Working in the industry, I understand the importance of clear communication and responsible gaming. That's why I strongly dislike the overwhelming amount of ads and sponsored gambling content. In my opinion, it's even counterproductive for online betting eventually. And annoying.

[@Card_lol]

Agreed. Legalized sports betting is cool, but it gets advertised WAY too much. Advertisement of it should be regulated imo becuase it's out of control

[@austinfitch2395]

Good for you for sticking to your values, not giving in and turning down sports betting money.

[@thedimedropper9601]

It's a problem in every sport now. Something needs to be done. It's ruining the casual viewership and it's 100% hypocritical to ban players from it but advertise it constantly in their face (or well, helmet). What should be done is lowered advertising and support groups for players who do struggle with it. Gambling is a vice like drinking and drugs.

[@krakenspectacor]

@@thedimedropper9601 no hypocritical at all. If you can’t tell the different between someone gambling who can affect the outcome or know under details vs so dude on his couch… I got no words.

[@thedimedropper9601]

@krakenspectacor oh you have to absolutely ban them from their own sport. What I mean is from other sports. It's disgusting moreso they advertise it, constantly, then ban it, but these dudes are human. With their money and constant bombardedment of it, it can provide a gateway to them. There needs to be toning back or legit support groups for nhl players who struggle with it mightily.

[@krakenspectacor]

@@thedimedropper9601 lol no. They aren’t being bombarded. TV viewers are but the athlete barely sees this shit unless their arena is named for a gambling company. Players are able to enter player assistance if they have a problem but Pinto didn’t gamble, there’s zero evidence this is a real problem. Lots of poor logical reasoning going on from Eck though. To be clear I hate gambling but also see the hypocrisy here

[@thedimedropper9601]

@krakenspectacor true. I agree with you on that part. Just ultimately, I've seen other leagues have players and umpires fall victim to this. People will gamble regardless. Just the nhl (and by proxy other sports leagues), should give more preventive measures where possible. Like preventing on the boards and on helmets/jersey at the very minimum. Some will always be avoidable, some will be unavoidable, but it feels like a small step to keep it out of players sight in arenas.

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

​@@thedimedropper9601then they should do that for beer ads and others .gambling ads are no different.

[@furryfurnace9601]

Good for you on your take about gambling! The players make enough dollars for a great life! They don’t need to do any gambling! A lot of the gambler’s out there are low income, young nieve players that get taken advantage of that haven’t learned how to save their dollars for a rainy day!

[@Nick-wl9fj]

As I’m watching this under the video there’s a ad for bet mgm💀😭

[@Sil3ntB87]

America has a serious gambling problem. Priorities in this country are twisted. Athletes getting paid millions to play a game, while teachers, firefighters, police officers, nurses, nurse aides and many other positions that are actually a need, are getting paid scraps and not getting the real training and equipment needed to do their job better.

[@ViperBitten]

Entertainment is worth billions. Trillions, even. Between sports, movies, television, video games, books, music - you name it. And one person or a small group of people can make things worth millions or more, as long as there's a market for what they make. All of those jobs you mention only affect people domestically, and while arguably more important, entertainment is something that anyone can obtain and is willing to spend money on which adds up to billions. You might spend $100 on a ticket to a game, but you won't pay a firefighter across the country $100, and neither will anyone else not directly affected by their actions. Capitalism is a bitch that only gives money to those whose services are deemed broadly valuable. And it's even worse when you consider those professions would pay even worse if it were privatized, again because people will only pay for what directly benefits them. Entertainment is something everyone wants and needs. It's not a matter of priority. It's a matter of supply and demand.

[@higherground9888]

@@Sil3ntB87 The main difference is most of those are not Privatized like professional sports is (with the exception of Nurses/Nurse aids) thus they have a Government fixed rate salary.

[@RadMax8]

@@higherground9888 Which is set by what people are willing to pay in taxes. Which are voted on by the people. Who don't want the government to take their hard-earned salary. But are perfectly fine spending it on athletics, or more to the point, gambling on athletics. Wouldn't it be wild if you could convince people to start betting on district test scores? Want to see some money pour into the schools? Ha!

[@higherground9888]

@@RadMax8 If you still believe that voting makes a difference, your a fool. Illusion of choice is one of their specialties. Not even Politicians have any real sway. They are clowns in this awful circus production. The one place that Voting COULD make a difference, at the local state/province/town level, not nearly enough pay attention too. Because that would require work and vigilance.

[@higherground9888]

@@RadMax8 Sadly true. The people who only want THE APPEARANCE making a difference. Virtue signaling is the infuriating majority

[@Avery-ux9wx]

95% of gambling addicts quit before they win big

[@michaelfortunato3117]

"it's been the ruin of many a poor boy"

[@Tartarus599]

1:25 ya I’m with you on that point my son is just starting to watch hockey and I’m not pumped that every other commercial is a gambling commercial. And no more ads on jerseys I’m so sick of that these are NHL jerseys this isn’t the ahl or juniors

[@jackmakackov7077]

Two things. First, gambling/lottery is known as the idiot tax. Second there is an old gamblers phrase. "Only morons bet on hockey."

[@tristant9309]

Why is that?

[@arseface2k934]

​@@tristant9309 hockey is an incredibly unpredictable sport. there's an old vox video about it

[@kingsally2864]

@@tristant9309 hockey is the highest variance sport out of the major 4

[@kwaty]

The real addiction to gambling is by the nhl. Take the big money, allow all the nauseating predatory promoting, & expect it not to invade the integrity of the sport. Big L!

[@adamhainsfurther8644]

Front Office Sports has been digging into this and according to FOS, Canada has no national ban on match fixing (IE it may not be illegal for Canadian players on Canadian Teams to rig games for betting purposes)

[@kieranperreaultdit-morin9262]

I still believe officiating standards have dropped because of the NHL going all in on sports betting

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

😂

[@MCowie]

The funniest part is all the gambling ads we see here in Vancouver. All but one are sites that we are not allowed to use. What a total waste of money.

[@nicholastroy471]

Another thing about the suspension that bothered me as a Sens fan: tell me with a straight face that McDavid or Matthews gets 41 games for this. I sure don’t think the suspension would have been anywhere nearly as big if it was a big star.

[@Gundams33d00]

As I get an MGM AD for this video

[@prodwybie]

Wow bro, i feel like you really upgraded the quality of the montages you make, i saw it right away tbh

[@andrewmcinnis2092]

This headline is crazy 😂😂

[@ngarcia103]

Sports in general have a serious gambling problem. I'm surprised we haven't seen it in hockey yet - players who did absolutely nothing wrong during a game, yet will still have gamblers mad at them because their actions affected the spread. (As if players are supposed to play with the spread in mind...) For example... your team is up 3-1 in the dying seconds when your opponents have their goalie pulled. You're given the puck and have a wide open lane to the empty net. You then score on the empty net. 4-1. Exactly what any hockey player would do in that situation, right? Now imagine some gambling addict flooding your social media DMs with hate messages, claiming that by scoring that goal, you had cost them a giant sum of money since they had bet your opponents to cover a +2.5 goal spread.

[@GizmoBeach]

I have a problem with their ubiquitous, stupid ads taking over TV breaks but then telling me who to call if I have a gambling problem. I wouldn’t bet a $100 on my team to win if they were up 5-0 going into the 3rd such is my luck. So no gambling issue, here.

[@TjayK2]

5 out of 10 commercials is a gambling ad, teams can have gambling sites sponsor them and they can even show the logo on their Jerseys. It’s ruining the sports community. Crypto and Gambling is getting jammed down our throats in obscene levels.

[@timw4369]

Every league has a gambling problem. When you make it accessible to everyone you run the risk of causing these problems. Its helping to keep radio and tv alive.

[@Trigger200284]

Gambling has always been under control in Canada. I’m not sure who got paid but the gambling is now so easy to access you can make bets while taking a shit. It’s dangerous and people can ruin their lives without ever stepping out of their house.

[@tyraelhermosa]

Agreed: it’s incredibly hypocritical on the NHL’s part for suspending him.

[@bab3242]

This is a big problem in every major sport/league around the world

[@mmckinlay]

You're right. It's that simple.

[@joeboland95]

Respect for not taking their money. It's so weird how sports betting has been popularized after being illegal for so long

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

It was always been popular. Now you can do it legal.

[@benkheir8606]

I honestly think the gambling exec’s pressured the NHL to do this in order to get press surrounding proxy betting. Proxy betting is very difficult for them to control and prove, this story made it seem like they had this all seeing all knowing ability to detect people doing it there by discouraging others from doing it.

[@IanSane]

I predict at some point some major gambling scandal will hit one of the big four leagues where it will seriously damage their credibility. I figure referees would be the most likely culprit since they're paid so much less than players but the NBA already showed that fringe depth players can also have a financial incentive and I figure assistant coaches and front office personnel could also be involved. The leagues are probably aware of this possibility but might be "gambling" themselves in that if one of the four get nailed on something like that the other three can quickly distance themselves from the gambling sponsors. So the odds are 3/4 that you'll be fine which isn't too bad and until that day comes they can squeeze enough money out of these deals as they can.

[@Thrashman-ye4cf]

Might be one of the most ironic things ever that all our North American pro sports leagues take players gambling SO seriously and give out heavy punishments, while also shoving gambling ads down the viewers throat at every opportunity they can. Even while the game is actively being played.

[@j.r.6142]

Just had a BET MGM ad just before the video...the irony

[@JEEBUSxHIMSELF]

sports ceos are addicted to gambling sponsorship money the same way gamblers are addicted to gambling

[@DoctorRevers]

Agree 100% The NHL come out looking worst of anyone on this. Greedy hypocrites. If they were serious then they wouldn’t be advertising gambling every second and on helmets and boards etc. punishing pinto for their problem is ridiculous. I think at the time pinto was suspended they had bet365 on their helmets.

[@JOBdOut]

Players would be a bit smarter with their money if they didn't get entry level contracts 15x the salary of regular people before setting foot on NHL ice.

[@WaaDjooNoBoutDa]

It's not just the NHL, it's pretty much every major sports out there. It's ridiculous, watch any sport and you see gambling ads.

[@Adam-xs4eo]

Funny, my ad before this video was for a gambling site.

[@jesd319]

i am surprised gambling is not treated like smoking no advertising allowed hopefully one day

[@markehm941]

100% agree on your view of gambling. Guarantee refs are betting too.

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

😅

[@dr.loomis4221]

The NHL has a serious gambling problem

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

Sure does nba and nfl.get used to it.

[@hockeykid9176]

W video

[@JBaker17]

Once upon a time you drove to a casino or a sports bar. Now? Oh wait it’s in our pocket.

[@Hockeydaggo1710]

It is so nice to have a youtuber that can keep me in the loop with all things hockey!

[@Alexander-lc7dx]

Ahhh you’re new here… curious to see what you think this time next. Nonetheless, welcome!

[@allenelliott2114]

I despise gambling in no uncertain terms. The League and all other media promoting it 24/7 is disgusting. All these "bet once, get $200" offers are even wearing me down; I've almost bet on a few games. If that's how it's affecting someone who can't stand it, I can't imagine the damage it's causing to someone who has a proclivity for gambling addiction. The whole thing is wrong.

[@__._._-_._.__]

I think ppl over exaggerate the whole gambling thing. Don’t like the ads or how “bad” it is who cares? It’s for ppl who are 18+.. if you can’t be mature enough to not blow out all of your money thats YOUR fault. Saying the league is taking advantage of ppl who are addicted is like saying ads for alcohol takes advantage of addicts😂 Ppl who blow away their money on gambling are gonna find a way to do it no matter what.

[@Dratchev241]

ciggies are for people who are 18+ (21+ in the states) but can't have joe camel lighting up a smoke on tv cause it might cause kids to smoke. so booze and gambling should also be banned from advertising for the same reason. fair is fair.

[@dominator9059]

Thomas Greiss sighting

[@paulgarcia9181]

Bettman found his money hole in VGK. They're the most successful expansion team in NHL history. I think its like 6/7 post seasons, 3 WCF apperances, and 2 SCF appearances ( one their first year and two years ago.) VGK was knocking at the door from their inception and they slowly started throwing the ads in but the past two years? Every break is Fanduel or DraftKing now. I don't think the NHL is rigged or scripted. It would take a lot to do that but I do believe the zebras have more power due to gambling and they can change the flow of a game or even a series with their calls. If it was about money and betting fully , NYR and Edmonton would've been the most beneficial SCF. They would've broke bank if they made it turn out that way. But the Panthers make it, win 3 straight, and lose 3 straight, to make a game 7 with Edmonton and I'm assuming a lot of people bet on Edmonton because the Panthers got dog walked game 4 and 6. Gambling doesn't help the fans with trusting the sport either. I remember when VGK won and people thought it was scripted that way because Bettman needed Vegas to succeed. This last year I've heard the Panthers just stopped playing for 3 games so Edmonton can force a 7 and the over/under and money lines would be insane. I personally don't think its gotten to that point. You can't script this last playoff season, it was so insanely good. But a lot of controversial calls or lack of calls and the DoPS picking and choosing who will be suspended and who won't be suspended was the only thing to me that smelled funky.

[@faunbudweis]

Lately it feels like professional sports are done only for sports betting. I mean live courses on screen during SC games? Ridiculous. It is not going to a a virus, it is our greed.

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

Sure and so was all the budwiser ads .no one bats an eye on that .hockey has a massive drinking problem that virus has never been stopped.

[@faunbudweis]

@@kasrasadrehashemi174 my nick has got nothing to do with the brand in case you were reacting to that :)

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

​@@faunbudweis😅 it nothing about your nick .did not notice it

[@JakeMCGreen]

Dude everyone now a days has a gambling problem. All of my friends “casually” gamble. I don’t think they realize how scary a gambling addiction can be. I get it if it’s only a little bit of money here and there that it doesn’t seem serious, but it’s a slippery slope - just like My WW2 veteran neighbor

[@powwowken2760]

Yeah, as long as you're not an idiot getting away with proxy betting is probably insanely easy. Also agre with the distaste for gambling. My favorite example was The Score app on my phone (not their betting app, their normal one). I wanted to know Heiman's salary and it wasn't listed on the app, but I could sure find the odds for every little micro bet I could place on him for the next game... It's kinda pathetic.

[@DirtyMoneyHipHop]

Every day I hear sportstalk pundits pick their parlay bets and if you follow up on those bets, they lose about 95-100% of them. That should be enough to tell you to stay away from gambling. My heart goes out to those that fall to its addiction though.

[@benwilson6559]

Betting parlays is dumb as hell

[@noahmatthew6658]

That’s an extreme stretch to say Pinto has an addiction for proxy betting

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

Oh it like you gamble and and then you become addictive. So stupid

[@Dregnwulf]

I don’t gamble but make it so players can only gamble on themselves and we could def have an interesting season. Maybe Mika and Kreider can parlay themselves to doing well in the playoffs “together” lol

[@robertwells6724]

NHL is nopt protecting the league by allowing all this gambling sponsorship.

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

Sorry it a business.

[@tvviewer4500]

Love that you hate gambling

[@isabellec857]

Leagues taking gambling sponsor money is the worst thing they have done. Rething player salaries and contract length and adjust. No contract should go oever 5 years.

[@nickstalker3254]

I have been saying sports have been shittier since gambling has been legal. It’s horrendous

[@Unholy_Louie]

Respect. Gravitech or wtv doesn’t share your principles. He gets huge amount of cash just to promote addiction. Having the option of making more money doesn’t mean it’s illogical to refuse. It’s such a basic idea that I see escapes many many people when trying to “defend” wtv creator they like. Oh and you can like someone while still having disagreements; it’s called living in society.

[@LegionOfEclaires]

Who would imagine pushing gambling commercials would lead to increased gambling... Nobody could possibly have seen that coming.

[@kasrasadrehashemi174]

Yeah and it has made every league richer than you ,so cry me a river.

[@TmanTyler619]

Should be illegal for NHL NBA MLB etc to sponsor gambling. It’s even more sad with the NHL. They know they’re losing viewer count and popularity so they’re trying to take advantage of an addiction to get people interested in their sport. Maybe focus on actual marketing and you wouldn’t need 20-30 ads of sports gambling a game to grow your sport. They market gambling better than the market Mcdavid….

[@intentionaloffside8934]

Rules for thee, but not for me. The NHL is two faced.

[@rossgoodine891]

The NHL actually had people involved in coaching actually running an illegal gambling operation and did almost nothing about it....

[@davidb.cooper3296]

Hypocritical is an understatement, and the fact that the nhl is in bed with organized crime leaves them no room to judge anyone. This also begs into question the horrible officiating that has taken place over the last 2 to 3 seasons. Just my opinion