The Nintendo and Pokemon Palworld thing.

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@bennythemonk
@bennythemonk Ай бұрын
Nintendo; (sees palworld) Eh it’s no threat to me. (1 year later and millions of palbucks) Nintendo: Okay let’s see what we can sue them for, I want those palbucks.
@seki108
@seki108 Ай бұрын
I REALLY hope that Nintendo loses this case. The company really need a good humbling before the company starts seeing itself as the next Disney, with their willingness to even sue basic ideas that likely predated their own products. Nintendo will only get bolder if they get precedence by winning this case. We already have Internet Archive set to get another reaming (from the music industry iirc) after the precedence set by their recent lost case, so the last thing we need is bolder Nintendo.
@TheCobraKing209
@TheCobraKing209 Ай бұрын
Given what’s being told about the patent dates, IF it’s true it looks like PocketPair has a really good chance of winning
@exonymousprime
@exonymousprime Ай бұрын
​​@@TheCobraKing209 I hope so and that Nintendo keeps losing so they learn they can't over reach like they and so many do
@seki108
@seki108 Ай бұрын
@@TheCobraKing209 Damn I hope so
@dakota9399
@dakota9399 Ай бұрын
Remember chat, if you imagined catching Pokemon in the past year, Nintendo has the rights to your brain. Beware.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
Wouldn't surprise me. I wonder what they hide in their Switch Online TOS. I assume there's a Forced Arbitration Agreement in there somewhere.
@kaleckton
@kaleckton Ай бұрын
Oh no I imagined it with catching goth chick's. I think I am doomed.
@TheCobraKing209
@TheCobraKing209 Ай бұрын
@@KipReacts wow, throwing shit at Disney too, I see (Disney tried to force a Wrongful death lawsuit into arbitration simply because the husband had signed up for a free trial of Disney+ back in I think it was 2019)
@DarkPhoenixGaming92
@DarkPhoenixGaming92 Ай бұрын
Patenting mechanics is utter BS, imo. Remember the Shadow of War/Shadow of Mordor games and the Nemesis system? IIRC WB patented the nemesis system and proceeded to never use it again. If you're going to allow mechanics to be patented, and that's a continent sized "if" to me, then that patent should be voided if you don't make a product using the thing that was patented within a specified time limit.
@greyarchamedisblackthorn
@greyarchamedisblackthorn Ай бұрын
It's the same thing with Capcom or Konami I believe. One of them has a copyright on Mini games in loading screens.
@dyingstar24
@dyingstar24 Ай бұрын
Apparently it's going to be used in that wonder woman game that hasn't come out yet...
@dyingstar24
@dyingstar24 Ай бұрын
​@@greyarchamedisblackthornthat was namco with tekken
@jesuszamora6949
@jesuszamora6949 Ай бұрын
I'm not sure how valid Nintendo's claims are. Pokemon isn't exactly a young game, and IIRC, patents are 20 years.
@ShiningDarknes
@ShiningDarknes Ай бұрын
I mean parents are not indefinite, you have to re-up them or they do fall into public domain after a set time.
@TheCobraKing209
@TheCobraKing209 Ай бұрын
Keep in mind people they had YEARS to sue Pocketpair, and they specifically waited until the popularity with Palword died down in order to do this, and for a system that practically ANY GAME WITH A MOUNT SYSTEM HAS, read the room Nintendo (one step forward, 15 steps back I swear)
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
The timing seems suspect. I'm curious to see how this is going to go.
@theRANDOMmanta
@theRANDOMmanta Ай бұрын
From what little news we have gotten about Pokémon Legends A-Z it seems like it will have more building aspects to it. I wonder if they are going to release more info soon after their near year long dead silence on the game, but they want Palworld out of the competition.
@zackrose6261
@zackrose6261 Ай бұрын
People need to learn how game patents work. They don't patent the specific mechanic of catching the creatures to use in battles. It's how it's implemented, for example with pokemon, you use a ball, throwing it at a pokemon, pokemon has chance to get caught, heath level and ball type effects chance. you can't patent specific mechanics, only how it's implemented. And this is what they are most likely going to court about, the practically 1 to 1 implementation of a mechanic. Nintendo was merely taking this time to build their case
@insertname1786
@insertname1786 Ай бұрын
So Nintendo doesn't have problem with the mechanics but how Palworld implemented them?
@zackrose6261
@zackrose6261 Ай бұрын
@@insertname1786 yeah, most likely.
@insertname1786
@insertname1786 Ай бұрын
@@zackrose6261 Kinda makes sense considering how PocketPair's business model was to make games that closely resemble the popular game at the time. Craftopia comes to mind considering it's just Breath of the Wild but anything can be weapon and Palworld feels like a reskin of that game.
@Nicky-zz8np
@Nicky-zz8np Ай бұрын
@@insertname1786yes same with colopl. They didn’t have an issue with them using a touchscreen joystick. They had an issue with colopl trying to patent it for themselves and trying to get other gaming companies to pay them licensing fees to use it. People are fear mongering this to the nth degree.
@TotallyCluelessGamer
@TotallyCluelessGamer Ай бұрын
Pokemon and Nintendo, are we really devolving back to that late 90s and early 00s era strategy of trying to use lawsuits to bully potential competition into shutting down? Do you not remember how you won none of those battles?
@HazySkies
@HazySkies Ай бұрын
I'd still be okay with some kind of crystal-like of thing instead, and where you can capture a pal in a shard instead; throwing constructed Pal Shards at them in a dart or kunai like manner, forcing them to an aethereal essence-like state and then shwooping that into the shard to attempt the capture. Your shards could then be worn like jewellery and function to release them at any position close-by.
@DJ_Bonebraker
@DJ_Bonebraker Ай бұрын
This whole thing is pretty sus: As I said in the community post, in the US patents generally expire after 20 years, and Pokemon has been out for nearly 30, so it's already looking pretty shaky there... Still, this makes me even less inclined to buy any Nintendo products than I normally am.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
The court of public opinion is hating this decisions. Which could play out interestingly. Especially if Nintendo profits take a hit in any capacity. I already buy minimal games from them.
@The_Azure_
@The_Azure_ Ай бұрын
The patent isn't on anything from the original games but is instead Legends: Arceus' catch system. The second one is the BotW styled mount system.
@ShiningDarknes
@ShiningDarknes Ай бұрын
Patents last 20 years, the holder or their estate can re-up the patent after that time or let it become public domain.
@doubledamn2599
@doubledamn2599 Ай бұрын
There needs to be less "business" in art (video game, film, tv, etc)
@dustin202
@dustin202 Ай бұрын
That’s certainly an interesting play.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
It is. The timing on this is wild. Especially with all the other high-profile suits right now.
@darksavant3571
@darksavant3571 Ай бұрын
Regardless of the legitimacy of this lawsuit. I really wonder if this is going to break the camels back in regards to Nintendo's holier than thou reputation. In my opinion, Nintendo is as bad or worse than EA with the sole exception being their video games are good enough to cover over all of the bad that Nintendo does. It's PR team has worked wonders on Nintendo's reputation, but at some point eventually with all of these bad decisions that they managed to hide away with their really good games, it's going to have consequences for Nintendo. I wonder if pow world is a large enough to actually get a legitimate pushback this time instead of them. Just getting away with everything like they usually do.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
I would low-key love Ubisoft to come after Nintendo for the tower fast travel system. That would honestly be really funny, and probably a humbling experience. It depends if that's patented or not.
@red14carbluebattleship76
@red14carbluebattleship76 Ай бұрын
Not likely. Normal people are not going to care. You want change, convince normal people. But that won’t happen, cause people only want good products, they don’t care for reputation.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
@@red14carbluebattleship76 The problem is when their products stop being good. Or, they just don't work properly. Point and case being really bad performance issues in SV. You absolutely have a point. Eventually practices like this will compound on each other and there will be a breaking point.
@red14carbluebattleship76
@red14carbluebattleship76 Ай бұрын
@@KipReacts For Pokémon, only one of their flagship series. They have a lot of others.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
@@red14carbluebattleship76 Yeah. But making less money is still less money.
@Chaoticchips
@Chaoticchips Ай бұрын
Every gamer,” no one can fuck up more than Sony and their PS5 pro.” Nintendo,” say no more.”
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
I'm convinced these companies rotate revealing bad information that way it takes the heat off of their actions.
@Chaoticchips
@Chaoticchips Ай бұрын
@@KipReacts I think they have a bet between them to see who can fuck upset the worst
@stevenkhan4203
@stevenkhan4203 Ай бұрын
That "patent" sounds so broad it could apply to so many things retroactively. Also, say what you will about Palworlds designs and how much of it is plagarism, but this is in supremely bad taste. Nintendo lawyers, as always, can get lost.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
It's why I disagree with patents on mechanics. Pokemon should never own exclusive rights to creature catching and battling game. Would Hogwart's Legacy run afoul of creature catching? Would Monster Rancher run afoul of creature battling? It opens up a lot of doors from its sheer ambiguity.
@exonymousprime
@exonymousprime Ай бұрын
​@@KipReacts So true this type of stuff needs to stop and never be allowed it will lead to the end of games in general if it continues.
@cbwmechbot
@cbwmechbot Ай бұрын
This is the absolute lowest Nintendo's legal team has ever stooped too. When it came to shutting down fan projects and emulation sites they were in their right, but they had to do go so far out of their way to create vague patents for general game mechanics just to even try and take shot at Pocket Pair. This is beyond preserving IPs, this is just being petty. And yeah, it's not going to benefit them, Palworld has mechanics similar to Pokemon, but as a whole it is so much different. Palworld players aren't going to be going to Pokemon, it's apple and oranges, both are a fruit and that's about it.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
As far as I understand right now, they are legally in the right if a patent was infringed upon. However, I like many people right now am still incredibly upset at their actions. The court of public opinion is stacked against Nintendo right now, and I think they've burnt through a lot of good will they've earned over the years. I wonder how much longer they'll have until there's a genuine breaking point.
@cbwmechbot
@cbwmechbot Ай бұрын
@@KipReacts Within their right by a massive technicality in this case. The fact Nintendo didn’t have patents for this until after a game was big enough to make them nervous. I hope Nintendo went into this excepting to win, and isn’t just trying to wear down Pocket Pair with court fees. Then they aren’t just petty, but scummy too.
@theactualrealpikachufans2018
@theactualrealpikachufans2018 Ай бұрын
@@KipReacts A good amount of people including myself think that even if we’re not in Japan or China in the same area as PocketPair or Nintendo and The Pokemon Company, a good amount of people including myself thinks it’s bullshit, bullying and that it’s just Nintendo being petty and greedy to the point where they want the money they know that PocketPair is making with Palworld that they’re not making themselves with their own games an coming up with some kind of unreasonable excuse to go after PocketPair just to get Palworld gone.
@Acraepheus
@Acraepheus Ай бұрын
Working on 4th hand info here but from what I've heard, the patents were approved after palworld launched which makes things interesting, take this with a pitcher of salt
@c0baltl1ghtn1ng
@c0baltl1ghtn1ng Ай бұрын
Apparently that's the second time they patented it. There was an earlier one back in Sept 2022, but that was a couple years after Craftopia released, which apparently has a similar creature capture mechanic, from what I've heard.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
Interesting.
@filipvadas7602
@filipvadas7602 Ай бұрын
Its both hillarious and disappointing that Nintendo would rather wipe out the competition rather than invest in actually making good Pokemon games themselves.
@theredblooper
@theredblooper Ай бұрын
I had a time on twitter trying to explain why this is absolutely a bad thing, and the only arguments to the contrary I saw were that 1) we still didnt have all the info so we’re not allowed to speculate, or 2) businesses in Japan have a cultural history of patent spamming because apparently other businesses could create and take those patents if they’re not patented??? Both arguments were insanely stupid and after a certain point I just got tired of interacting with people about this.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
I've honestly just stopped interacting with a lot of Twitter over the same reasons they fall into bad faith arguments really quick. This is one of those things that I'm incredibly concerned about, but nothing can really be done about it. Internet outrage is 2 weeks, but this legal process is going to take a while. I have my eyes on this case, and whatever is publicly accessible. I'm also going to be watching for other companies engaging in the same behavior, should they arise. Patenting mechanics and the way that they are implemented can be one heck of a slippery slope.
@FubukiTheIcyKing
@FubukiTheIcyKing Ай бұрын
This feels like the only thing you could raise an eyebrow at is Verdash to me. But trying to patent mechanics for the catching and battle mechanics is supremely bad taste.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
I morally disagree with filing patents on mechanics. Ubisoft would have a case against every tower fast travel system video game if that was patented.
@FubukiTheIcyKing
@FubukiTheIcyKing Ай бұрын
​@@KipReactsIf I was Ubisoft I'd do that to Nintendo about BOTW. See how they like frivolous lawsuits.
@The_Azure_
@The_Azure_ Ай бұрын
I have my doubts that these patents are actually the cause of the lawsuit. The Palworld dev's already had the basics of the catch system in their previous game Craftopia which released 2 years prior to Legends Arceus. Also it includes quite a a few claims that simply don't exist in Palworld. And Palworld doesn't have the described mount system of the other patent.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
I'm curious to see how this situation is going to develop.
@jamessullivan9048
@jamessullivan9048 Ай бұрын
They're upset because a small group of indie devs produced a more stable and solid product than GameFreak has in years.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
I don't pick up Scarlet and Violet again because I'm tired of performance issues. It makes my eyes bug out. Sword and Shield were the better competitive experience for me because at least it was more stable. SV felt like a step back in many ways.
@jamessullivan9048
@jamessullivan9048 Ай бұрын
I'm similar. I saw all the glitches and decided to stay away. Sword and Sheild wasn't too great but it was their first real 3d Pokémon game on a console, I gave them a pass. Scarlet and Violet doesn't have an excuse.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
@@jamessullivan9048 It really just felt bad to play. It was fun. I played both Scarlet and Violet. But, man, they have some bad issues just running the game.
@jamessullivan9048
@jamessullivan9048 Ай бұрын
I'm sure it was fun, and based on what I heard about the lore and world of Pokemon, they put a lot of thought into it. It's just a shame about all the glitches, it needed more time but it has to meet that bi-yearly schedule. Least that's my wothless opinion.
@jamessullivan9048
@jamessullivan9048 Ай бұрын
That's a fair and valid opinion that I agree with. I look forward to this "Open World" fad being over and we can have regular stages and levels again.
@jimboeernisse
@jimboeernisse Ай бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if this is an attempt by Nintendo to force Palworld into an arbitration setting; wherein, as part of settling out of court, Nintendo can slip in a legal agreement that if current owners of Palworld would ever sell, Nintendo gets the 1st option on it.
@RockinAfr0
@RockinAfr0 Ай бұрын
To be fair, Nintendo has faced a lot of backlash already for their treatment of the Smash community and their tournaments in the past. I don't think they really care what kind of reputational cost this has as long as they can protect their copyrights. Nintendo is kind of notorious for that unfortunately :/
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
I keep forgetting that the Smash community has been through the wringer from Nintendo.
@randomrobin7773
@randomrobin7773 Ай бұрын
Know what the sad thing is? When a "new" Pokemon game is announced, almost everyone will forget about this.
@seki108
@seki108 Ай бұрын
They pretty much timed this with the Switch 2 announcment to mitigate attention
@randomrobin7773
@randomrobin7773 Ай бұрын
@@seki108 Why am I not surprised.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
2 weeks and no one will remember this situation.
@randomrobin7773
@randomrobin7773 Ай бұрын
@@KipReacts You're probably right, people have insanely short term memory as a collective
@Gatosan
@Gatosan Ай бұрын
The only "patented" mechanics that i can think palworld shares with pokemon its catching a creature by throwing an sphere object after weaking it, creature breeding and maybe battling with said creature... If that was the case, why temtem was ignored? If anything thats more pokemon than palworld... It really feel that the timing for this was to financially fuck pocket pair up, specially since holidays are rapidly approaching
@insertname1786
@insertname1786 Ай бұрын
I think one the comments in this video mentioned the patented mechanics their using in the case is Legend's Arceus catching system and BoTW riding mechanic.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
The timing is something that I'm really interested in an explanation on. The TemTem argument is also something I think could be explored. I'm going to be following this situation.
@insertname1786
@insertname1786 Ай бұрын
@@KipReacts Supposedly it's because Palworld's catching mechanics are a one two one recreation of Pokemon's. Nintendo probably didn't go after Temtem because they use cards not capsules, It kinda reminded me of the time they sued TearRing Saga not because it was an SRPG but because the game was literally just a Fire Emblem on the PlayStation, Hell the main protagonist had blue hair before the game's release. But Nintendo lost the case and TearRing Saga's developers released the game with the only change being the main protagonist's hair color.
@bluesky896
@bluesky896 Ай бұрын
Something i have heard is that they teamed up with sony, so it may end up with nintendo vs sony. Also, every video i have watched bring up that pokemon aren't the first people to do the creature capture. Dragon quest and shin magami tensei apparently did it first.
@mattb2583
@mattb2583 Ай бұрын
Hopefully it comes to PlayStation then cause I can't play it on my laptop
@TotallyCluelessGamer
@TotallyCluelessGamer Ай бұрын
Imagine that, they try to go after a smaller company they think they can bully... and wind up fighting a larger company that can bully them.
@TheTerminatorChris
@TheTerminatorChris Ай бұрын
Nintendo suing developers that makes them easy money on their old formula and no one gets to innovate it because they hate competition, although the timing is strange, probably Game Freak or Nintendo is gonna announce something related or not.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
The timing is something that's honestly making me scratch my head.
@Jobocan.
@Jobocan. Ай бұрын
This feels super extra scummy. They haven't gone against a ton of other games that are very pokemon-like. There's no way they didn't know about Palworld years before the early access came out. Some of these patents came up after Palworld was a known quantity (some after the early access was released). Palworld isn't even like pokemon in any way other than having creatures that are very similar in style. Patents are also absolutely horrid to read and feel so vague they shouldn't be defendable in court.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
The timing is something that I honestly would like an explanation to. Especially this long after Palworld had its moment. I'm curious why there's been a potential shift in Nintendo's logic towards Palworld.
@WisteriaDrake
@WisteriaDrake Ай бұрын
Minor tidbit. You mentioned that you don't see as many videos about Twilight Princess and BotW as the older games, yeah? TP is criminally underrated, I agree, but BotW and TotK are both extremely new. You grew up with Majora's Mask and now are talking about it. The kids who grew up with BotW are still kids. Give it 10 years and then tell me what game is most discussed. You may be surprised, but you'll also be waving your fist from the rocking chair and screaming about how "that's not real music!"
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
I actually like some good modern music. It's just been interesting to see many videos about Ikana, which we know next to nothing about, and less on the Zonai Tribe which we equally know next to nothing about.
@JustMacaroonKookee
@JustMacaroonKookee Ай бұрын
Here my honest take on this: I dont think nintendo isnt here to nuke palworld face of the planet, i think they have issues with some of the models, not all of them but some of them is almost one to one of pokemon models but somewhat changed, we cant lie some of them are this pal is this pokemon but somewhat changed, there was a post nintendo made like months ago talk about they would be looking at palworld see what the people say hold any water so this most likley they found something they have bit issue with, then now palworld post they being sue while nintedo kinda didnt assuming they wanted to keep this lawsuit private. the dragon quest argument, i haven't seen any proof if the creator of pokemon use dragon quest idea for the game, all i dig up is this using bug catching as the bases for his game, plus the agrument they kinda use is with very.. how i say? basic monster types which every game even stories use since man kind could make stories, if we use the dragon quest agrument, we can say that game copied, dnd since that game got the same monster types, since the game and board game 12 years apart, can they sue them? i dont think so because that bit silly. would palworld be gone? the most they could sue for is using of their models or is tooooo close to their pokemon maybe they are tracing; there alot of pals look like.. well pals while others look like a pokemon but somewhat change up, there so many other monster catching game that is fine, nintendo never touch them because, well they're different games. You can be upset about it but i think people taking this biiiiiiit to far saying this lawsuit would ruin pokemon like indie games they can sue anything that got catching which is reaching to far, palworld is fine, people who make something like pokemon is fine, all these games still exist and have not been touch by nintendo at all shouldn't freak out they would go after every game that have catching and training, would be like saying sega can sue anyone who have made a game is base on sonic 1-3 movement and their main character runs fast, that would be bit dumb. so uh yeah that's my take on it, you can be upset about it, i dont care for palworld, but people jumpin the gun bit to quickly thinking palworld would be deleted and there for every game would have the same fate. also for you ark survival comment palworld was suppose to be a pokemon mod for that game but they change it to palworld lol
@c0baltl1ghtn1ng
@c0baltl1ghtn1ng Ай бұрын
The Suit is for a patent. The design of the creatures would be Copyright. Patents are more vague and deep in the legalese language.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
It's mostly that I'm bringing to the forefront that when everyone starts to file patent lawsuits against each other, it will be an overall detriment to the entire gaming community. From AAA and AAAA developers, to the little indie guys. Companies at the end of the day are there to make money, and innovate if it makes them money. That's the fair and reasonable expectation. Having potentially ambiguous patents that can be called upon at any time can be a big moral and ethical issue. Not necessarily a legal issue, Nintendo might have enough here to stand legally. But, the court of public opinion isn't looking at them with any favor. It doesn't have to be Nintendo either. Any company patenting mechanics in games has been criticized by me. But, I'm curious to see how this will go. I can't really do anything more than that.
@StrawHatFan374
@StrawHatFan374 Ай бұрын
It's nintendo, they've sued someone for streaming their game before
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
Nintendo has also filed a Copyright Strike against a Zelda Breath of the Wild video from another Nintendo account. It's an action without consequences because they'd have to litigate against themselves. But, that to me stuck out as painting modern Nintendo in the way it presents itself.
@RikkuEcRud
@RikkuEcRud Ай бұрын
My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined. When Nintendo announced Pokémon Legends Z-A for 2025 I thought they were _finally_ taking the criticism on board and giving the games enough time to bake. But no, it seems like they just knew they'd be _busy_ this holiday season. And/or they didn't want the bad press of this move to hurt the game's sales.
@bennythemonk
@bennythemonk Ай бұрын
Was bound to happen when you’ve a guy who’s surname is Bowser running the show.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
I don't know how to feel about Z-A, especially after this. I started to think about turning my opinion around. But, I think I'll hold off. They're going to need to prove it's a functional product with far more stability than Scarlet and Violet for me to even consider it.
@exonymousprime
@exonymousprime Ай бұрын
Yes Nintendo and pokemon(aka Game Freak) have gone to far again like they always do and this crap needs to stop they themselves have ripped off or took inspiration from others
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
I'm just curious to see where this will go.
@exonymousprime
@exonymousprime Ай бұрын
@KipReacts Same, but I hope Nintendo fails and loses the lawsuit it's all a bunch of BS, and they need to be stopped
@dyingstar24
@dyingstar24 Ай бұрын
Well, looks like dextero wasnt lying. Still, i have doubts that this court case will go anywhere cuz... Yeah theres a lot of games out there that have monster catching and/or battling mechanics that play off a pokemon-like system (dragon quest: monsters, monster rancher, fossil fighters, hell you could even lump the tensei games in at this rate). As i said in the community post, though, it honestly still feels like nintendos doing this to appease the whiny pissbaby pokemon "fans" who kept throwing comparison videos around the internet. Keep in mind, Nintendo had several years to do this, ever since the game first announced.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
The timing is definitely something I'd like to see an explanation of.
@yugoxgc
@yugoxgc Ай бұрын
Right now, I'm just annoyed with this news. Sorry, but this is Horseshit. Whats next, they Gonna Sue Hoyoverse over Genshin impact infringing on Breath of the Wild?
@RashKIngCyan
@RashKIngCyan Ай бұрын
If nintendo does anymore egregious shit like this, I bet that there will be some backlash. Either online or Irl. Because you know some fans wont take this (Edit) Also the only reason they get away with shit like this is because the laws in Japan aren't specific enough. Also its funny that theyve waited until Palworld has been successful to try and get money (*cough*) (*cough*) I mean... sue...
@lunarshield8944
@lunarshield8944 Ай бұрын
Does anyone else remember Nintendo threatened to sue pron creators and tried to such down Pokefarlax the youtuber?
@Arcana_zero_studios
@Arcana_zero_studios Ай бұрын
In the words of George Carlin, I'm an entropy fan, and bullshit like this is a sign that the broke-ass system is finally breaking down and falling apart. The world will heal and rebuild itself to be better once the utter nonsense that is this lawsuit inevitably fails and casts doubt on copyright as a whole ergo provoking further discussion and invoking the redefinement and refinement of the ideas of intellectual property and fair usage. Nintendo suing someone for allowing their players to jump into a body of water and start swimming via an ability that was unlocked via story progression is equally as stupid as if McDonalds' sued Burgerking for selling "One quarter pound discs of grilled ground beef between 2 pieces of baked dough with a side of sliced, deep fried and lightly salted potatos".
@mystic8585
@mystic8585 Ай бұрын
this will make Nintendo look very bad and will give poor taste to the community however its heartbreaking that they make excellent games and i know people will still buy their games so win or loss at this lawsuit people will still buy.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
I want to see the long-term impacts this has. This definitely doesn't build any good will with a lot of Nintendo fans.
@dragonblade-go6pe
@dragonblade-go6pe Ай бұрын
They are gonna lose this case palworld is to big and you can't keep a idea
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
I'm not so sure. I'm going to be following this to see what conclusion gets reached. There's a moral argument, and a legal argument. I'm curious what comes of this.
@gamershadow8
@gamershadow8 Ай бұрын
is Nintendo suing Genshin Impact too???
@seki108
@seki108 Ай бұрын
I doubt even Nintendo will try with a CCP controlled game, with the CCP likely having some law requiring the case to be brought to Chinese court. If even Disney basically never sues Chinese bootleggers, I doubt Nintedo will, even with Genshin's overworld being so close.
@jameskarg3240
@jameskarg3240 Ай бұрын
Its disappointing but understandable. Japan does NOT share its IP ideas. This is just an immovable fact about their bussiness modles. It was inevitable this was going to happen. And given Nintendo is THE premier gaming titan on the planet: Palworlds devs had a solid run, but sadly their defiance is facing oblivion. Once again, Nintendo proves: They can, and WILL bite. Bite with enough force to silence doubt even in their kost ardent critics and defenders. Pokemon, Super Mario, Zelda, metroid. Doesnt matter: Those are THEIR markets, and they are NOT up for competition, and there shall be NO discussion about it
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
Which is fine. With their declining quality in games, it'll eventually come around to bite them in return. They won't fail, or go bankrupt, in my opinion. But, they will definitely see hits to their profits. Especially in the face of the "Ever increasing profits" philosophy. Whether it's legal or not, the court of public opinion is really not liking this decision.
@jameskarg3240
@jameskarg3240 Ай бұрын
@@KipReacts And sadly, publicbpower is just a myth. Worse, when WE get power, cycle JUST repeats...every time
@red14carbluebattleship76
@red14carbluebattleship76 Ай бұрын
@@KipReactsI think you are wrong. Companies like apple should be out of business by that logic, with scummy stuff they do. But they aren’t. The fact is Nintendo makes good games. Barring Pokémon, they too many good series people love.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
@@red14carbluebattleship76 To clarify, a hit to their profits translates into less profit. Instead of $1 billion, maybe $990 million. It would still be a impact as far as every increasing profit is concerned.
@red14carbluebattleship76
@red14carbluebattleship76 Ай бұрын
@@KipReacts So nothing big. A drop of water in the bucket. Consider this too, when the Switch comes out, it probably will be an affordable console with the power of a PS4, families will want that.
@randomrayquaza2044
@randomrayquaza2044 Ай бұрын
i cant beleive theyre sueing over this and not the fact that palworld has several pretty obvious ripoffs of some mons
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
Call of Duty has legally distinct vtuber skin that definitely isn't Projekt Melody. I just expect that from the modern AAA and AAAA gaming sphere.
@MrFox-ox2ze
@MrFox-ox2ze Ай бұрын
Brave move on nintendos part for an island nation within reach of nuclear missiles.
@comradecrusader6712
@comradecrusader6712 Ай бұрын
0:58 ...From the abstract, the number of games "stealing" that mechanic at this point in time is staggering. This would effectively ban transforming or multi-terrain vehicles entirely. That's whack, even for Nintendo.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
I'm curious how this is going to turn out. If anything, this determines if I'll even pursue trying to develop games or not.
@comradecrusader6712
@comradecrusader6712 Ай бұрын
@@KipReacts Oh, if it's anything based off of this, this is going to be worth a sit down with a bucket of popcorn. This 'patent' would allow Nintendo to sue Gaijin for having the game Warthunder, which as anyone could tell from a glance, is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from anything Nintendo has ever made. Can't imagine something based off this abstract bit actually going anywhere. I'd certainly be interested in seeing what you'd design, though! Hopefully this all ends well.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
@@comradecrusader6712 I'm gonna have to stock up on popcorn for this.
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
@@comradecrusader6712 I need so much popcorn. It's gonna be a wild watch.
@Captaintales76
@Captaintales76 Ай бұрын
just a heads up kip, but are you sure showing Byleth's Lower "lips" at 3:13 is a good idea considering it could get you in trouble even if its showing it at a minimal level some one can mistake it for what it is. Just trying to help one of my fav Vtubers
@KipReacts
@KipReacts Ай бұрын
I didn't notice anything, if I"m being completely honest. I'll keep an eye on the video.
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