The Nintendo Clown Lawsuit

[@realphoenixblast2365]

Nintendo does this stuff *all the time*. I don't even think they're trying to get them to court, just trying to bleed their funds.

[@theluckygamer10]

I wouldn't be surprised

[@実は弱い五条悟]

This is not a copyright lawsuit, but a patent lawsuit that Nintendo has been preparing for months. No doubt Nintendo will win.

[@IaeyanElyuex]

@@realphoenixblast2365 Lawfare needs to be punishable by disbarment. Using law as a cudgel to crush out competition is wrong. I don't care if it's Nintendo. Santa Claus himself could be doing it and my reaction would be identical.

[@Gabriel-lh7gy]

thats not even how patents work its exacly what they are planning

[@realphoenixblast2365]

⁠​⁠@@Gabriel-lh7gy Oh, no doubt. I don't have a law degree, but I'm fairly certain this sort of thing would be thrown out in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, legal fees are a BITCH, even if it doesn't make it to court.

[@TheStickCollector]

If you sneeze wrong, they will send you to court. They are the company equivalent to that one guy who sued Guinness for getting the number of lawsuits he started wrong.

[@atrane365]

Or the guy who sued Mr Incredible for foiling his suicide attempt

[@GWRocket]

they will sue you if your pitch sounds like any pokemon sound

[@PlumpMommyKali]

lol looks like they gotta keep updating that shit or he will sue them again

[@GreenDude_Gaming]

​@@atrane365that kind of thing was actually legal until they passed the Good Samaritan act. There is multiple real-world cases of people suing other people for preventing their suicide attempts.

[@TaurusTheCrazyBull]

Nintendo: "Did you just sneeze, *slightly like Mario!"* *Throws lawyers at you*

[@DrAnimePhD]

The patent situation is worse than you think. Apparently in Japan Nintendo has a patent for virtually every game mechanic imaginable, and they have those patents on standby to sue anyone who threatens them. They used this tactic many times in the past and it has never failed, which doesn't spell good news for Pocketpair. But the fact Nintendo even has this is deeply concerning and the industry needs to be made aware of this, especially if they ever wanna do business in Japan.

[@g_vost]

im still waiting for my take, that japan is shit and we shouldnt support them even culturally, to stop being hot

[@shadowsonicsilver6]

At this point, the people should just revolt

[@ro4le234]

like patent on basicaly granades or mountable animals... yep Intendo is disney on crack (one of big Nintendo buildings lost N during hurricane or something and its still just INTENDO there... )

[@deaconthethird3218]

I'm glad I haven't thrown money at Nintendo in over ten years despite growing up with them.

[@Gabriel-lh7gy]

its like a game of jenga the second they lose once it all gets reviewed, it would be hilarious if this is the one

[@MidianPOfficialytch]

The Funny thing is that Nintendo didn't invent the Monster Catching Genre. Atlus did with SMT during the 80s, and then now Nintendo is patenting the genre like they own it. oh how the mighty have fallen.

[@Gam1ngM3nace]

That's what I'm saying!

[@AlexiaHoardwing]

Not to mention Satoshi Tajiri (The creator of Pokemon), cited Godzilla and Ultraman as inspiration for Pokemon. Including the capsule kaiju that first appeared in the Ultraman series in 1967. On top of that Akira Toriyama, also had Capsule tech in his manga, even first appearing in the Manga series The Adventures of Tongpoo released back in 1983.

[@keithflippers4429]

I think it's for sound effects Also SMT had a recruitment system not a capsule mechanic

[@brev653]

​@@keithflippers4429if they copied the sound effects, that would fall under copyright law, not patent.

[@aceplaysstuff2621]

what's SMT btw

[@KyrieFortune]

Do not quote me on this, I have read that this lawsuit appeared just as Pocketpair was in talks with Sony and Microsoft. If this is true, it means Nintendo is trying to going after their actual biggest competitors. It also means Nintendo just opened the Pandora's Box by potentially breaking the code of honor of Japanese game developers where they do patent every small and inconsequential detail (including LOADING SCREENS, a thing Namco patented with Tekken) but do not go one after the other because deep down they know they themselves are breaking patent law by essentially making games of any kind with any feature. If you try to break this code, the other companies WILL destroy you, because they all have an example of how YOU broke patent law, and uh. It just so happens that ATLUS made a game prior to Pokémon where you collect monsters in an open world, a little thing called Shin Megami Tensei...

[@AlexiaHoardwing]

Not to mention Satoshi Tajiri has cited Capsule Kaiju (1967) from Ultraman as inspiration for Pokemon.

[@ZenPlaysVideoGames]

Good, Nintendo was bound for a wake up call.

[@StegoAqua]

Loading screens??? You’ve got to be kidding… how can you freaking patent something that is literally just processing time, that’s the machine equivalent of making the sheer act of thinking about anything patent theft

[@bobbobberson4295]

I'd be shocked if anyone JP-side cares at all, tbh, everyone seems to be on Nintendies side there. I'm sure they wouldn't mind ignoring that happening.

[@AlexiaHoardwing]

@@StegoAqua The patent is for minigames during loading screens to be specific.

[@thepwrtank18]

wait a minute, the ping system was made by f'ing Valve lmao

[@trumangraham2602]

even more reasons why patents suck

[@Brent22]

right lmfao i was just thinking that shit

[@ali32bit42]

used in portal 2 co op mode if i am not mistaken

[@Betweentwelv32567]

Not to mention the very concept of monster-catching was first done in Shin Megami Tensei 1 back in 1992. These companies are patenting things they don't even own.

[@thepwrtank18]

@@Betweentwelv32567 unfortunately, it's "first to patent it" not "first to use it"

[@unoriginalperson72]

They literally made up a patent JUST to sue them, that has to be some kind of misappropriation of patents

[@DrWellRound]

I honestly don’t care about it, but something interesting is that Japan is supporting Nintendo.

[@crazymage5316]

@@DrWellRoundbecause boomers

[@DrWellRound]

@@crazymage5316 No, they actually do.

[@crazymage5316]

@@DrWellRound yea because the boomer mentality that nation has

[@TheHoboPig]

Nah, Nintendo is trying to bleed them out in court fees.

[@IaeyanElyuex]

@@TheHoboPig They don't have the firepower, but they've known they have the mass. Who needs right or reason when one has riches? This power has gone to their heads, and Nintendo's best days are behind them.

[@aquamon1687]

Over a patient suit? That isnt gonna get them alot.

[@TheHoboPig]

@@aquamon1687 I've seen lesser stuff in court go on for much longer

[@Thetracker69]

@@aquamon1687 Its not to get money from PocketPair. Its to make PocketPair spend their limited money. They know PocketPair doesn't have a money printer like Cringetendo does, so all they have to do is drag PocketPair through court for long enough that they'll have to basically just fold and do whatever nintendo wants. Its a dick-measuring contest between the two companies, but Nintendo gets to decide the scale of their rulers.

[@Lapsio]

with waaay over 25 000 000 copies sold, 30$ each, I'm afraid it's gona be veeeeeryyyy looooong bleeding. Blood ocean even... Pocketpair is not just another random indie with budget of 3 bubble gums and used condom...

[@zynet_eseled]

They are suing for the mechanic of throwing balls. Throwing an item that affects a fighting character. Meaning, the mechanic of throwing a projectile, is officially being locked under nintendo. So people can go chase them now and make nintendo realize how much they have fucked up by flooding their lawyers until they literally quit.😊

[@davidjohnson4171]

More like they've patented for the mechanic of catching creatures in throwable storage containers, at most Gearbox could cause an small stink over one of BL3's side-missions.

[@dinoshotgun]

@@davidjohnson4171not even that, in the presequel there are two side quests where you use a sphere to capture weakened foes in a 3D space

[@Sergeantmajormario]

I never understood how game patents could be filled out. Nintendo owning a patent of phasing through the floor, Sega owning a patent of a 3D arrow above a car, Namco owning a patent for loading screen minigames, it is all stupid.

[@brev653]

Honestly, software in general shouldn't be subject to patent law. Patents aren't for ideas, they're for implementations of ideas, which in software would be the assets and code. Assets and code both fall under copyright, so what is there to patent?

[@SuperFlashDriver]

It's as if these corporations, both in America and Japan, are monopolies at best. And sadly Japan doesn't have the same "Anti-Trust" law in place as America did in the 1900s.

[@yoshi_dt]

the reason game companies started doing it is because people would patent basic ideas used for video games and sued a big company for using it so game companies just patent alot of things so it dosent happen but normally don't actually sue over it except in this case

[@No-longer1]

It has the same vibes as trying to sue over POSES used in art

[@-TriP-]

Never forget that Nintendo began life as a Yakuza racket. Never forget what Nintendo did to Argonaut Software.

[@crystalbry4741]

I thought them starting out as yakuza was a joke...

[@kiwigaming09]

​@@crystalbry4741They literally had fucking sex hotels

[@treyjordan3168]

So that's why Argonaut went under, One of My Favorite Nintendo 64 Games, Buck Bumble, was made by Them

[@InquisitorXarius]

I have grown to hate Nintendo because of shit like this ridiculously and blatantly evil lawsuit

[@alexanderfletcher3375]

Not to mention all the fan projects that got atomized for. Literally nothing

[@bendy7021]

oh trust me ALOT of people now hate Nintendo at this point.

[@Roboshi2007]

@@alexanderfletcher3375 honestly nintendo doesn't strike anywhere near as many as you'd think they just become much bigger news when nintendo does it, mostly because 90% of the fangames out there are for nintendo properties. (if you don't count the modding scene that is)

[@flaris0706]

it is always morally correct to hate nintendo

[@alexanderfletcher3375]

@@Roboshi2007 dude or dudette yes they are based of official IP they (for the most part ) don't hurt the brand or charge anything look at sonic& sega which helped the brand more than officially made games This IP this thing is one of the most popular things in the world I don't think. Pokemon crown or heck pokemon uranium would do. Any real danger to the thing that has been around for 25 plus years. Thousands of cards episodes plushies if one fan game with non positive stuff is in it

[@nemesisalex9424]

31 seconds ago. Let's hope Nintendo loses or else we'll have every company suing every indie studio for having basic gameplay mechanics

[@doom7607]

did you copy paste a comment you saw 31 seconds ago...

[@Victor-056]

To be honest, If nintendo wins, _every_ bigwig japanese company will suddenly have the right to sue _THEM..._ Bandai being just _ONE_ example.

[@Shadowflutter196]

Worse thing is that practically all of japan support Nintendo on this because "well, they own the patent, so that's it", without even giving a single grain of criticism about what the patents are

[@a.s.raiyan2003-4]

One of the worst things you can do is patenting game mechanics. Because you are actively hindering progress of game development as a whole. Nintendo already made patents for Zelda. Now Pokemon? Are you guys that insecure about people reusing your ideas?

[@Kero-zc5tc]

Realistically the BEST thing to do is make patents for video game mechanics (as a indie or actual decent company) because that way you can make it free to everybody to use, if a big bad company takes the patent, they aren’t sharing it

[@ATBZ]

@@Kero-zc5tc Yeah Nintendo violated the Japanese game patent pseudo treaty because of a petty lawsuit. They are gonna have fun bieng sued by every japanese company they took patents from for free in retaliation.

[@shifterscribbles]

​@@ATBZ We can only hope.

[@Victor-056]

@@shifterscribbles There is a very high chance _Nintendo_ will get sued if they win. They have been stealing concepts and ideas from Bandai for DECADES. If they do this to Pocket Pal, Bandai will start playing the Jaws theme.

[@Victor-056]

@@ATBZ It may actually happen. Nintendo _has_ stolen ideas and concepts from the likes of Bandai for decades. If they win, it will be the biggest case of Pyrrhic Victory for Nintendo.

[@panqueque445]

The amount of people celebrating a company suing people for nothing, is pathetic.

[@panqueque445]

@@Jigen0 Yeah I guess that's why most of them are on Twitter lmao

[@LazyJesse]

Never liked Palworld, but neither do I like Pokémon so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@ॐIo]

Fanboys are repulsive as usual

[@crystalbry4741]

​@@panqueque445 one of the reasons to leave Twitter honestly.

[@crystalbry4741]

​@@Jigen0 yeah only some insane Japanese and western shills.

[@gregorymirabella1423]

i'm praying that nintendo loses because this is just ridiculous. i can tolerate losing the nemesis system but this is WAY too far.

[@hfactor66]

This suit is going to be huge because Sony is backing the Palworld devs now, because they want to leverage this game like Nintendo has leveraged Pokémon, meaning that yes, they likely will have the money to fight this lawsuit.

[@Victor-056]

And that is my hope for them winning. Also, Nintendo doing this is them admitting weakness.

[@rueldeveyra8981]

@@Victor-056 Nintendo is the most corrupt company in the world, That's why I prefer Sony to Win the Game Wars.

[@dismochria]

Nintendo throwing around their weight. Even if they can't win, they're gonna try at the very least to make it costly for all involved parties.

[@dragonmares59110]

"not a threat to pokemon"...Nintendo is a threat to pokemon. They should have kicked gamefreaks out decades ago and give the licence to a better studio

[@flamingrubys11]

nintendo doesnt own pokemon its the fact the pokemon company refuses to give better funds to gamefreak

[@brev653]

@@flamingrubys11 gamefreak has the money, but they really want to pretend they're still an indie studio.

[@davidjohnson4171]

People keep saying that like Pokemon isn't the *single biggest property in the entire world* by a _UNFATHOMABLY WIDE_ margin. It's not cooked, it's gonna be around long after us, our grandchildren, and - if humanity's even still around by then - our grandchildren's great-grandchildren. Pokémon, and by extension Nintendo, exists on a scale so mind-meltingly vast that public perception actually means nothing to them anymore, we can bitch and moan and raise awareness all year long, every ten year old in the world's still gonna wish for the next Pokémon game for Christmas, and most of 'em are gonna get it.

[@SirClapp]

@@flamingrubys11 Incorrect, it‘s a workplace thing. The studio‘s full of Seniors in the workplace that refuse to learn new methods or accept help from newer staff. They also refuse to outsource for help from other studios.

[@tayzonday]

I experienced multiplayer FPS pinging in the 1990s before I had played any EA FPS titles 🤷‍♂️

[@TruFalco]

Tons of games have done it before them. Map pinging is also a big thing in a lot of MOBA's too.

[@internetlurker1850]

Yeah but EA was the one that patented it. Even if it existed before, they didn't patent it. Same thing with copyright, doesn't matter if you make it, if you don't register, someone else can plagiarize it and then register that.

[@frazonedracaoo6981]

​@@internetlurker1850Na every price of work gets copyright protection immediately and automatically for existing.

[@internetlurker1850]

@@frazonedracaoo6981 Not really, but I will admit that I was wrong in saying that "it doesn't matter if you make it, someone else can plagiarize it and then register that", so I will just act like I never said that because it was wrong. I should note, I am not from the U.S.A Anywho, it varies across countries. In some, yeah things do get granted copyright for existing. In others, the thing needs to be tangible *or* put into something tangible. In others, you do need to register in order to have it copyrighted stead of it being automatic. But overall, not like it really matters, because the main argument is just that "Even if it existed before, it wasn't patented, so they do not get a patent on it just for existing before."

[@brev653]

@@internetlurker1850 in the case of something existing before a patent, that constitutes "prior art" which can be argued in court. You can sue whoever you want, but you can't generally win if they have prior art.

[@WillAschman-rn9fj]

Nintendo being Nintendo

[@realathenightmaren4393]

Basically they’re being dumb and stupid even as a fan of their games I know how dumb Nintendo is doing

[@Willbill66]

@@realathenightmaren4393 Same

[@IaeyanElyuex]

@@WillAschman-rn9fj Nintendo hasn't seen a dime from me in seven years because of this kind of BS.

[@CapnCoconuts]

@@realathenightmaren4393It's said that you shouldn't attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity, but I don't think that applies here. Nintendo has turned from the savior of the US video game industry to a greedy, spiteful AAA corporation. The people who are dumb are the ones defending Nintendo.

[@blazermettro2059]

This feels worse

[@SSJ_EWGF]

I think we all conceptually knew Nintendo would try to force legal action, the question was what angle can they sue them over and looks like they settled on their patent of game mechanics which is somehow even worse than the popular copyright infringement argument everyone was throwing around when the game first came out. The idea that a mechanic in a video game can be patented so that only one company can use it is actually ridiculous and if they win, could spell a really dark look across the entire industry. Like, imagine if Activision patent loadouts and score streaks in shooter games like dude.

[@davidjohnson4171]

Games already do that. Remember the nemesis system from Shadows of Moror? The one part of the game that people praised more than anything else and wanted to see in other games? Yeah, that's under a patent, only Warner Bros. game studio can make that system or systems like it. The only thing of real concern is the idea that they can apply retroactive patents, but let me be clear, that's only really concerning to Japanese companies because their patent and copyright systems are *_ARECHAIC!_* I'm not saying I'd be surprised to learn that Activision, as a U.S. company subject to the U.S.'s copyright and patent laws, tried to patent those concepts, I'm saying I'd be surprised if the presiding judge didn't laugh them out of court for the attempt.

[@Axvzar_A.F.U]

2:19 The way he says pathetic here is so violent but genuine

[@billionsmustfight]

This lawsuit immediately reminded me of the patenting behind the Shadow of Mordor's nemesis system. It's a great mechanic, locked behind a single game series and developer.

[@123hattan]

And there is nothing in the works of it in recent times.

[@RedwindAndBeyond]

And WB refuses to do anything with it.

[@Gamblegork]

​@@RedwindAndBeyond"This is MY IP to sit on!

[@LordSiravant]

The worst part is that Japanese society is almost entirely on Nintendo's side because culturally fair use is considered rude and an insult to the original creator, unlike here in the West. So there's also a cultural aspect to this that is also against PocketPair's favor. Nintendo knew what they were doing.

[@renantemerin9248]

Yeah... I hope this gets stopped... Seriously Japan is now acting like it's an old version of itself... Aka the Axis Japan

[@crystalbry4741]

​@@renantemerin9248 but the fact that people are defending this is disappointing. i foolishly thought that Japan was good too. But after seeing barefoot gen and reading the one shot page from a guy survived the attack. It's heartbreaking to see and hear about because it could've been prevented if America and Japan weren't so stupid during that time. Both countries tried to cover it up sad. Sorry for going off topic.

[@DankSlayer_Ornstien]

They might have the Japanese audience under their control, but the rest of the world might not be so kind to them.

[@crystalbry4741]

@@DankSlayer_Ornstien yeah but i bet that there some Japanese players who aren't like this. Just like the west not everyone is a shill.

[@renantemerin9248]

​@@crystalbry4741Yeah because as Japan is still holding on to it's past but aldo it's badside including it's Axis Japan side... Seriously i feel bad for some people who got bad by Japan...

[@decisive-dolphin]

Crazy Nintendo behavior to FILE A PATENT AFTER PALWORLD WAS RELEASED just out of spite. they're like children

[@drdca8263]

Hm? That doesn’t sound legally sound? In the US at least, if there is prior art of the invention out there when the patent is filed, I think the invalidates it? So like, filing a patent after someone makes a thing, and then suing for that thing violating the patent, would, I think, imply that the patent is invalid on the basis of prior art? I thought? I’m not a lawyer, so I could be quite wrong, but that was my impression Edit: apparently the patent in question is a “division patent” or something like that, spinning something out of a previously filed patent, and that’s why it is applicable?

[@Victor-056]

@@drdca8263 Hate to say it, but in the Japanese Court sytem, whoever has the biggest money usually wins. This was the reason why Ace Attorney was created. It was an attempt to call out the corrupt Japanese Court system. So I am hoping for one of two things: 1) Pocket Pal wins and gets to continue creating more Palworld fun (Here's to hoping)... Or 2) Nintendo Wins, and _IMMEDIATELY_ becomes a target for _EVERY SINGLE_ Bigwig Japanese Company to sue them and rip Nintendo apart!

[@AD3SPG]

I'm surprised they didn't go after nexomon.

[@chernobyl169]

N: "You cant have monster capturing in your game" Yo-Kai Watch: "oh yeah?" N: "Alright you cant have 3d monster battles" Slime Rancher: "you don't say" N: Well you can't release a captured monster to ride it World of Warcraft: "tell me more" N: "THATS IT I'M SUING ALL OF YOU"

[@Victor-056]

Bandai: "Not if I sue you first!"

[@MysticNinTorres]

That’s Nintendo as a company in a nutshell FR

[@keithflippers4429]

@@chernobyl169 Yokai watch has been a Nintendo exclusive until yk4

[@moisesezequielgutierrez]

Atlus *(Aka the creator of Shin Megami Tensei... a game that is born prior to Pokemon):* _"Nuh uh."_

[@crystalbry4741]

​@@keithflippers4429 yo kai watch 4 is only on switch and the game sucks they ruined everything even more than 3 which is "impressive".

[@woobharb]

This is literally the whole “PUBG suing Fortnite” thing all over again. You can’t sue over another game being the same GENRE as you.

[@ZenPlaysVideoGames]

Their hubris has blinded them.

[@engineergaming1669]

Unfortunately it will most likely work since it’s Japan, Nitendo has never lost a single case that they started and are known for doing things like this

[@Victor-056]

@@engineergaming1669 Oh trust me... If Pocket Pal looses, Nintendo will _WISH_ that Pocket Pal _won._

[@elcalabozodelandroide2]

​@@Victor-056not at all.

[@Victor-056]

@@elcalabozodelandroide2 They will. They have proven to the World that Japan is pretty much in the mindset of Mainland China. ...You know, _China,_ "The Land of Shortcuts and Facades". Japan "siding with the biggest fish on the board"? That is the exact same mentality in China. Nintendo has proven that their "National Honor" is little more than an illusion, and they have stretched the bubble too thin with this.

[@WillAschman-rn9fj]

They are suing another video game instead of announcing their next big console. Nintendo being Nintendo

[@TheDumbStupid]

don’t do better against your competition, destroy the competition’s building instead

[@waddledeecrasher6396]

They could of you know actually take action against real illegal ripoffs in the app store and bootleg merchandise but they choose to try to nip the bud off of a competitor If they succeed then there is a chance Capcom will sue Nintendo for having a fighting game or the feel of a fighting game

[@WillAschman-rn9fj]

@@waddledeecrasher6396 I agree

[@waddledeecrasher6396]

@@WillAschman-rn9fj yeah and megaten games can sue Nintendo for making a monster catching game because they invented it first and it will be a whole mess that people would be scared to make games

[@Victor-056]

@@waddledeecrasher6396 The same goes for Bandai, seeing as for many of their pokemon games, they have been using ideas from Digimon to serve as _their_ gimmicks. Terastalization is highly reminisant of Armor evolution, and... (Ugh) _mega_ evolution is pretty much digimon evolution right down to the mechanics and even the name of one of the levels. There are probably more that Nintendo has basically plagiarized from Bandai for the last few decades.

[@Lechgang]

I don't play Palworld so I can't really speak on this subject. But I remember when the game came out, there were a metric boat load of people begging Nintendo to sue the Palworld devs. It's crazy to see how much public opinion has swayed since then.

[@AlexiaHoardwing]

It initial response of people begging Nintendo were/are the people still wanting this lawsuit because they defend the corporation. Just look at Sony fans who both shit talk Sony games coming to PC while also touting those same games when they were PS exclusive.

[@r3zaful]

You need to go to japan side and Comeback here, the pros and opposing are in equal number.

[@Your_LocalWizard]

If anything, I hope that this actually prompts courts to reconsider how patents are actually done

[@davidjohnson4171]

That's a sweet dream, it's not gonna happen because our own courts are unmovable when it comes to copyright and patent laws, and Japan's are even worse, but it's nice to think about.

[@Squood]

I’m saying this as a Pokemon fan: I need Palworld to win this. Pokemon has become so fucking garbage. I’m not sorry to all the butt hurt Pokemon fanboys, the games are uninspired and bland, they need the competition to light a fire under their ass. I would say it’s indie game quality at AAA prices, but I don’t want to be rude to indie devs.

[@flamingrubys11]

pokemon fan here i agree pokemon has the problem of not being funded well enough and gamefreak trying to keep their indie studio roots... you cant make open world games and have a small studio while trying to release a game every few years

[@brev653]

Yeah, when the trees in an indie game look like N64 models, it's usually a deliberately retro aesthetic choice rather than sheer incompetence.

[@Phyrior]

After the first half of Generation Five (Black and White for those not keeping score) Game Freak has been getting increasingly more handholdy and patronizing with their design. That alone wouldn't be an issue... if it weren't for the fact they were doing it to their main series of games. I still insist to this day that pokemon should have made the PC mmo using their proprietary pokemon storage system to act as DRM and reward for sticking along with the atrocity that the bifurcated mainline games have become... Instead Palworld showed them what they could have been, and they decided it's time to kill the messenger...

[@creeperkinght1144]

Oh don't worry, I love Pokemon too, but I stopped playing their new games after Gen 5, where the peak dropped so hard I could go skiing on it.

[@aidencook5524]

As a pokemon fan i 100% agree

[@Crudely-Drawn-Cupcake]

0:17 Are you telling me That they sue over FEET?!

[@loonyroxxs2482]

IF you look at the patent date, the patent that Nintendo is suing over was made after Palworld had been released. so they are just petty and I believe this will negate the entire sue

[@KurffyOfficial]

If I remembered correctly, Konami filed a patent for mini-games on loading screens almost 10 years ago. That's why loading screens don't have little mini-game anymore. Edit: It was Bandai Namco and it expired in 2015. But still, games rarely have mini-games on loading screens since Namco did that.

[@Techeyor_YT]

A patent for loading screens is absolutely wild.

[@oliverfern8039]

The patent expired, loading screens just aren't that long anymore

[@islu6425]

i think it was namco, and that patent was far older than that, in fact the patent ended 10 years ago, that's why splatoon 1 had minigames on the loading screen

[@waycnf7229]

@@oliverfern8039 We missed out on so much. The patent really lasted the whole life of awful loading screens.

[@supershoutmonx8327]

@@waycnf7229 i did not get that i read you're comment a few times and still did not get

[@123hattan]

A reminder that Bandai Namco has a patent for loading screen minigame. So if you ever wondered, that is why you do not see them anymore.

[@PkGroundOmega]

Reminder:almost every single pokemon mechanic came from SMT, that came from ATLUS. So if nintendo can sue palworld, ATLUS can sue pokemon.

[@AlexiaHoardwing]

Not to mention Capsule Kaiju from Ultraman back in 1967. Which Satoshi Tajiri has stated as inspiration for Pokemon.

[@flamingrubys11]

someone please tell atlus this... PLEASE

[@keithflippers4429]

Uhh.. no lol SMT was a dungeon clawer for one and I'm pretty sure you don't catch monsters in SMT you recruit them

[@AlexiaHoardwing]

@@keithflippers4429 An action role-playing game which plays from a top-down perspective. Battles are turn-based, with random encounters taking place while exploring. During battles, the player can try to persuade enemy demons to join them, in exchange for magnetite, money, or items. The player can keep seven demons at a time.

[@fiertlaen8724]

​@keithflippers4429 whats the difference? They're on your side either way.

[@stellanovaluna]

Video games are art. You should not be able to patent art. That’s the reason copyright exists!

[@tapejara1507]

They patented dismounting and throwing a ball. What a joke.

[@DankSlayer_Ornstien]

I'm sorry, but did you say that they patented dismounting? A F***ing essential part of anything related to horses.

[@tapejara1507]

@@DankSlayer_Ornstien yes. yes they did. its more in detail but its related to dismounting a monster and that monster then goes into another state. (like idling)... I never fully saw the written words thats just what I heard.

[@parmesanbrawler7183]

What really upsets me is even if Nintendo loses this, they won't learn anything- not if it doesn't have anything to do with how to get away with unfair lawsuits. They'll remain as litigious as ever, if not more.

[@Bakuganluver23]

Bandai might sue THEM, if I'm being honest.

[@soundverse9617]

I think Nintendo isnt scared of Palworld on its own but what it represents. Palworld is currently a symbol for pushing back against Nintendo, its a direct competitor to their biggest cash cow and nintendo is worried that if it succeeds and they dont shoot it down it will result in more games like it that take more and more from nintendos share of the market.

[@w-Belly-Squisher-w]

Bro a kid could literally draw Mario and post it online and Nintendo would sue the family

[@DenEbony]

Nintendo is the ultimate love the individuals who worked on the games but hate the company practices Yet, they still treat their employees with much more respect than like, any other AAA company so its such a confusing mess

[@yharon8243]

Someone who's nice to you but is cruel to other nice people is not a nice person.

[@crystalbry4741]

Except they don't, they've fired both employees and contractors unfairly in 2014 and 2021 & 2022 one guy was fired because his kid accidentally leaked the smash bros roster/ a lady who asked Doug a question about unionization in the gaming industry was let go months later - a woman in 2021 got fired because she couldn't go to the medical clinic at Nintendo cas contractor and a employee offered to help get her to another clinic the higher ups didn't let her go while she was having a concussion btw.

[@junglejuicejuno]

​@@yharon8243 Nintendo Developers are not their legal team, different people

[@ausgod538]

​@@crystalbry4741except none of this is in Japan which is where the actual Nintendo is

[@crystalbry4741]

@@ausgod538 i know but I'd wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo Japan can't speak up like the American branch & i had to redo it because yt kept deleting my reply.

[@bonevelous]

If Nintendo is genuinely threatened by Palworld when they don't have a legitimate case for copyright infringement, Pokemon as a series is absolutely and irrevocably cooked.

[@flamingrubys11]

to be fair... pokemons been going down the drain since the change to 3d

[@davidjohnson4171]

People keep saying that like Pokemon isn't the *single biggest property in the entire world* by a _UNFATHOMABLY WIDE_ margin. It's not cooked, it's gonna be around long after us, our grandchildren, and - if humanity's even still around by then - our grandchildren's great-grandchildren. Pokémon, and by extension Nintendo, exists on a scale so mind-meltingly vast that public perception actually means nothing to them anymore, we can bitch and moan and raise awareness all year long, every ten year old in the world's still gonna wish for the next Pokémon game for Christmas, and most of 'em are gonna get it.

[@bloodyidit4506]

@davidjohnson4171 No, it's not gonna recover since the recession market isn't providing cushion funds,m. Alienate a market, you're done. Sony wont recover, and Nintendo will set themselves on a 5 year downturn with this alone.

[@bonevelous]

@@flamingrubys11 I don't know if the franchise has been going down the drain to be honest, but I have lost a good amount of interest in it simply because it's mostly not been my cup of tea anyway

[@bonevelous]

@@davidjohnson4171 Maybe not so much pokemon as a whole, but more Nintendo's iron grip on pokemon. Perhaps if this goes the right way Nintendo will start making pokemon games that are more imaginitive than what they've been releasing thus far. I don't honestly know more than that

[@wobbachustash]

Thank you for doing the bare minimum research to know that this is bad! For some reason, SO many pokemon fans (and I say this as a massive fan of pokemon myself) couldn't be bothered to read on the lawsuit; and instead mindlessly hate on palworld, and even make themselves look like idiots by bringing up "well erm, palworld stole teh designs, so they deserve this" when designs are COPYRIGHT, not PATENTS. People shouldn't bring up copyright matters when the subject is about patents :P

[@Gam1ngM3nace]

Those Pokemon "fans" make me want to stay away from the fandom.

[@ro4le234]

dont wanna be that guy but original pokemons are all stolen from dragon quest

[@CALAMITY0FHYRULE]

​@@ro4le234 are not most of both designs japanese mythology or other folk creatures?

[@keithflippers4429]

​@ro4le234 Did you just read that from somewhere or smthn? No the pokemon were inspired by Kaiju, Yokai ect.

[@BlueRGuy]

​@@keithflippers4429 **Extremely loud incorrect buzzer**

[@danielmalinen6337]

Patents for game mechanics also seem to be more and more often the reason why some video game doesn't have some mechanics that players are longing for. Nemesis System and Choice Wheel for example, or simply that the game character can swim and doesn't drown immediately when it gets into the water.

[@Jiffles]

waitwaitwaitwaitwait is THAT why we can't swim in most games? Did some fucking random wank of a company patent swimming?

[@canyouwavedash3298]

Pokemon really out here trying to patent the concept of animals.

[@owennelson5814]

Monsters, animals...HUMANS-

[@almondbread8255]

Nintendo is the kind of guy to hold a grudge on you for 20 years because you didn't hold the door for him back in the 8th grade and because of that he's gonna torture you with petty stuff until your life is ruined

[@frazonedracaoo6981]

Bare in mind Patients dont just expire in 20 years, they can be reuped for another 20 years can done so continuesly forever.

[@TheChrisV.]

I know I'm late to this, but it looks even more shady now that some experts took a look into it and noticed that after Palworld came out, about a month later they started "adding" 3 more *very specific* patents to their main "parent patent" that obviously were made to target Palworld specifically. And that's apparently just allowed to be used. And they had the Japanese patent office make the process relatively quick so that they can sue faster.

[@LilDragonkaijufan]

Man, Nintendo be smoking those poison-shrooms to be that idiotic and desperate just to sue a game that was accuse for patent. I still don't know what "patent" is but sue'ing games because of it is just plain childish. Nintendo brings shame upon its community.

[@elinogales]

Nintendo suing Palworld because GameFreak doesn’t do shit is funny, GameFreak literally asking “Papa Nintendo” to do their work for them lmao

[@Victor-056]

To be frank, Nintendo doing this is declaring to the whole world that they are _WEAK._ ...And in the corporate world, Declaring that you are "Weak" is a death sentence.

[@Gamblegork]

not when you have money ​@@Victor-056

[@spicynips8466]

"Catching a monster in an open field" damn so they could file a lawsuit against ARK for its Cryo pods if they wanted? 💀

[@nuclearfilms9754]

Because we don't know which patents Nintendo is suing PocketPair over, we can make some guesses. One guess I've seen floating around is that Nintendo is suing over the "Monster Catching System," you know, the throw ball at damaged creature to catch it. There is a problem though, Nintendo filed that patent in August of this year. Months after Palworld's January release. If Nintendo is suing on this patent, I hope they lose miserably. Though because they are both companies based in Japan I am not familiar with their patent laws so they might win. Edit because misinformation :/ After some research, the patents were filed in Dec 2021 and recently went into effect. Palworld was officially announced June 2021, still not a good look. Pokemon has had that game mechanic for how many years and they just happened to file the patents for it after Palworld was announced?

[@doniarts]

The patent was filed in 2022 it just now went into effect.

[@rosesapling72]

They may still lose because the mechanics are present in Craftopia, another one of Pocket Pair's games that released in 2020. So we'll see

[@DBArtsCreators]

This is why court fees for both parties should be charged to the loser of the court case as a standard. Illegitimate cases are much less likely to be brought up when you are forced to pay up for your target when the case you brought up is found to be unsubstantiated.

[@mikaruyami]

I'd suggest scaling court fees based on the party's size. As well as fine issued to any party that is seen to be purposely wasting the courts time. Again scaled for said party in question.

[@nebula8072]

If Nintendo wins this is going to affect so many games. They really do think they own the idea of catching monsters💀

[@davidjohnson4171]

Because they made the patent, they do.

[@nebula8072]

@@davidjohnson4171 I guess id software owns the entire first person shooter genre too, right?

[@FireRED-c8u]

​​@@nebula8072dude you don't get the point in here. The reason they are suing is because of the fact that plaworld is called Pokemon with guns which would create a bad impact on parents who are buying Pokemon games for their kids and the fact that plaworld copied Pokemon design and they had a deal with sony to create a ip. Trust me Nintendo is very supportive towards indies.

[@davidjohnson4171]

@@nebula8072 If they _really_ wanted to, and could successfully argue why they need the patent in court? Yep, they absolutely could, as could, Gearbox, Activision, EA, and Muse Software. Except, in the U.S. that's not exactly liable to happen, because we have have better patent and copyright laws than Japan, as well as lawn that tend to bust monopolies, which anyone claiming the FPS patent would definitely become.

[@Willbill66]

As a Nintendo fan, I hate when Nintendo sues stuff for no reason. Fuck this lawsuit.

[@crystalbry4741]

Don't support them after this. Vote with wallet.

[@Willbill66]

@@crystalbry4741 I’m not defending them or anything, but that’s not really gonna do anything. I will still do it though.

[@crystalbry4741]

​@@Willbill66 i mean they lose money if people don't buy their games or consoles. Their stock already dropped a bit because people aren't buying switches anymore. The paper mario remake lost money. So it does have some impact which is good.

[@dat_lamp]

Let's be honest here, they held off on this lawsuit for one single reason. They waited for them to make bank, so the suit can get Nintendo more money.

[@davidjohnson4171]

They openly said that in one article I saw, "we want as much as we can get," they're not hiding that this is about money.

[@mitspeithetc]

Watch the PalWorld currently playing count go up because Nintendo's dumb lawsuit just reminded everyone PalWorld exists lol

[@Victor-056]

That, and Nintendo will end up showing how weak they actually are, to feel threatened by an Indie Developer.

[@izzymosley1970]

I think copyright law in general is stupid. Just because you create an idea first should not mean you get to own it.

[@AlexiaHoardwing]

It's not even if you created the idea first. It's you told the government you want to own the idea even if it already has been created, first. Pokemon took inspiration from many ideas like bug catching. Satoshi Tajiri has stated Ultraman was a inspiration, Capsule Kaiju existed in Ultraman since 1967.

[@brev653]

@@izzymosley1970 you're describing patent law, which is what this case is. Copyright is different, it's more in the vein of "you can't put my music in your movie without permission." The owner of a copyrighted work, like a book, movie, or song, has the exclusive right to make copies, thus the name. There's more to it than that, but that's the broad strokes. There's also trademark, which is about protecting brand names and such, like you can't open your own bakery and say the cookies you sell are Oreos.

[@Daily-PE]

You know the funniest thing is? THE PATENT WAS MADE AFTER PALWORLD

[@theshapeofevil8949]

Winning that Donkey Kong Lawsuit many years ago really must've gotten to their heads

[@nazodreemur8284]

The game not that good Me wanna argue but i remember the dev quote: There are so many amazing games out there to play You don't need to feel guilty about hopping from game to game If you are still playing Palworld, we love you. My anger is not what he wants...

[@JDReC100]

Pocket Pair has been pretty chill about people moving on from thier game. It's nice to see.

[@Abomdosnow]

Honestly this explains why the only Japanese indie games I can name off the top of my head are Touhou and Cave Story, they were made before Nintendo had supreme reign over the gaming market in Japan. I’ll just be forced to stick to other countries for game titles at this point.

[@graycatsaderow]

I red cave story as dave story and was so confused

[@Abomdosnow]

@@graycatsaderow Don’t feel so blue about it.

[@graycatsaderow]

@@Abomdosnow nah dont worry im fire

[@markcampbell8590]

The fact there are so many Nintendo fans bending over backwards to defend this just makes me glad I left that whole community years ago and never looked back.

[@Rath2049]

Can't wait to see Deemech's reaction to this For context: he's a KZbinr who LOVES Palworld but not the modern Pokemon games

[@AlexiaHoardwing]

Thanks for the recommendation.

[@UwU-fx7md]

Nintendo is mad again.

[@dazkid33]

Isn't one of the patents Nintendo's suing over registered this year? May? You know, well after Palworld was released? I really hope that's evidence in showing that this lawsuit is antagonistic, and I hope it gets dismissed. With prejudice. But it's Nintendo, the lawsuit throwing company.

[@sofiane1437]

Imagine Adam returns to life to start suing us for patent. lawsuits left and right for the whole eight billion humans on earth even his lawyers won't be save

[@daleksec01]

Honestly after the last Pokemon game Nintendo should be worried about palworld 💀

[@Xenoraniumwolf]

This whole controversy is so stupid and unnecessary. What's worse is that people are defending Nintendo's action as if they don't do this petty shit all the fucking time. One example is a lawsuit stopping a tournament because they were using an emulator to run a 20-year-old Nintendo game they don't even sell anymore. I believe because Nintendo doesn't have an actual lawsuit on their hands, they're going to try to bankrupt Pocket Pair by holding them in court. They're absolutely terrified of Palworld's existence rising up to become a competition to Pokémon.

[@nobbymcnobs8721]

>palworld rising up to become competition yeah definitely not, the game was on a downward slope ever since the FOTM launch period ended and even after a large content update was still bleeding players constantly it's more likely nintendo's doing this for the sake of preventing a second palworld, at most I can imagine they just don't want this repeated rather than actually seeing palworld as a threat because-- It just wasn't and isn't? like at most it's nintendo being draconian more than anything else. they strike down fangames constantly and emulation-- it's definitely not out of legit fear

[@JDReC100]

​@@nobbymcnobs8721...why not both?

[@aleronbane8080]

Adding to the tournament bit; It was making it so that said game can be played online, since it was being hosted right in the thick of the pandemic, and as such, the hosts of it were factoring in the health of everyone involved. Big N probably didn't even think of that.

[@Xenoraniumwolf]

@@aleronbane8080 Just the fact that Nintendo can be so petty is enough to turn people away from the company.

[@D3adCl0wn]

@@nobbymcnobs8721 Just for perspective, The Pokemon Company was founded 2 years after gen 1(1996), 1 year after the anime (1997). Palworld Entertainment Inc (partnered with Sony and Aniplex) was founded not even 6 months after Palworld's EA release. I hope you know that the Pokemon IP blew up not because of the games, but by anime and mostly by the trading cards. This is not just a videogame competition anymore, it's full on multimedia.

[@TraceLegacy2793]

The fact nintendo did direct few weeks ago...let that sink in

[@deaconthethird3218]

This behavior makes me proud of the fact that I *haven't paid a dime* to Nintendo in over ten years now. And I grew up with them, so they had the home field advantage *and yet lost it.*

[@abyssangel76]

patenting a basic mecanic only to sue the games that can actually make competition in your fiel its scummy, why dont they demand tem tem? coromon? all the scuffed android ripoffs?

[@shadowsonicsilver6]

It’s a Monopoly tactic

[@Gam1ngM3nace]

Because apparently Palworld is "threatning" them.

[@Espartanica]

It's not scummy, it's directly monopolizing a game idea or even an entire genre depending on what they take. It's beyond scummy

[@davidjohnson4171]

Cuz Palword's the only one to fly so blatantly in the face of Nintendo. While I won't say they're copy/pasted, cuz that's obviously wrong, a _lot_ of Palworld's creatures are Chinese Bootleg levels of "inspiration" from Pokémon, in addition to being parked, literally, down the block from Nintendo HQ, and the fact the catching animation is remarkably similar, the entire Palworld development was almost certainly intended to be equatable to a matador waving a red cape in front of an enraged bull. As for why they don't go after the others you mentioned; TemTem has a designs and characters that are, from what I've seen, almost entirely original, and Coromon isn't a big enough name to actually warrant any sort of response and/or hasen't been brought to Nintendo's attention, and most of the ripoffs are either in that same boat, are already getting sued into oblivion by another company they ripped off, or are dealt with by their legal team so swiftly and quietly they just silently disappear.

[@BlueRGuy]

​@@davidjohnson4171 **Extremely loud incorrect buzzer**

[@neoharmoniagropius1426]

At this point Nintendo is basically Japanese Ubisoft

[@RedwindAndBeyond]

You know except the fact that they have good games and Ubisoft currently doesn’t. But in all seriousness this situation is getting insane.

[@theotherjared9824]

This gets dumber. The alleged patent was made in May 2024, after Palworld was made available for sale. The patent itslef boils down to "gameplay mechanic where player throws thing at other thing." Nintendo might have always wanted to sue Palworld but couldn't find a legitimate case, so they quickly made a patent vague and abstract enough and hope the judge is stupid enough to be on their side.

[@Espartanica]

*paid enough

[@Rot8erConeX]

The patent was filed in 2023, it got *approved* in 2024. And that's the American side of the patent. The Japanese one was in 2021.

[@sampletext5959]

@@Rot8erConeX Even dumber still: The Japanese patent was filed in _December_ 2021, while Palworld was officially announced in _June_ 2021.

[@AimanCool440]

Leave Palworld Alone

[@IaeyanElyuex]

@@AimanCool440 What do Nintendo's reason for suing and Nintendo's games have in common? ...I'm not buying either.

[@undefined6512]

LEAVE PALWORLD ALONE YOU BASTARDS!!!

[@AimanCool440]

@@IaeyanElyuex idk..

[@keithflippers4429]

​@@IaeyanElyuexthat dosent make sense

[@SuperFlashDriver]

@@IaeyanElyuex XDDDDD XDDDD Good one...People, it's a joke okay, I feel like the only person who got the joke...X333

[@Chilling-And-Vibing]

Nintendo is just pissy that they couldn't copyright catching cute little monsters!

[@stabakoder]

All this lawsuit is doing is tarnishing Nintendo's image even more.

[@davidjohnson4171]

They couldn't care less, Pokémon, and by extension Nintendo, is such a massive success that it easily stands as the single biggest property on this earth, they don't care if you don't like them, because at the end of the day, no matter what we do, every ten year old in the world's still gonna want the next Pokémon game for Christmas, and most of them'll get it.

[@stabakoder]

@@davidjohnson4171 It's called talk with your money. It's not my fault your relationship with Nintendo is the definition of stockholm syndrome.

[@davidjohnson4171]

@@stabakoder I don't give a shit about Nintendo, don't let your hatred blind you to objective truth lest you sound like a moron. The fact is, Nintendo *_IS_* too big to fail, no matter our opinions on it, their market will _not_ suffer a significant enough disruption to tear the company down because you _CANNOT_ get enough people to organize a successful boycott, too many people simply don't care.

[@avocadeous]

@@stabakoderyou can’t talk with your money though. Too many casuals like Pokémon for “vote with your wallet” to work.

[@stabakoder]

@@avocadeous You're not wrong. Too may people worship and protect corporates that don't give a shit about them. I personally don't care if any of these companies fall because all they are in life are just useless products that don't have real meaning besides a distraction from reality.

[@masterofwriters4176]

Nintendo might actually lose a lawsuit.

[@adriancastigador228]

Copy Game be like SEGA: Make a game to rival Super Mario Platformer Sonic The Hedgehog📈 NINTENDO: OK SEGA be friends and work together🤝 POCKETPAIR: Make a game like Pokémon but with GUN Palworld📈 NINTENDO: See you in court! POCKETPAIR⚖️

[@asirry3144]

Wait until Nintendo finds out that there's a country called Italy

[@mysteriumxarxes3990]

Ppl if nintendo was cool with it: 😀👍 Ppl if nintendo is petty abt it: 😠😡🖕

[@BlueRGuy]

It should be the opposite because of Nintendo fans lmaoooooo

[@sabeleyegems2819]

They didn't even claim the patent till months after pal world released Nintendo specifically made the patent to sue them because they couldn't find anything else to sue pocket pair with

[@DYhalto250]

And people alway wondered why i was so anti Nintendo.. years before it was cool..

[@Sam-I-Am981]

They made a patent long after palworld released and then sued them over it.

[@ChaseMC215]

One problem. Which patent is that?

[@Sam-I-Am981]

@@ChaseMC215 Creature capture mechanics, 754191. Late July of this year.

[@Sam-I-Am981]

@@ChaseMC215 Creature capture mechanics (754191), made in late July *this year,* and to correct myself palworld is in early release since January of this year. Not full release but still tho.

[@Sam-I-Am981]

It's patent 754191 for creature catching, approved in late July, palworld was put in early release in January, that's 6 months apart.

[@Subatomic625]

0:34 the t-pose😭😭

[@youareblinkingmanually]

lmao

[@JDReC100]

I miss that bug It was glorious The full clip has the character shoot a pal and "unaliving" it while passing by...while gliding and t-posing. It's great.

[@CyberLou]

Nintendo has actually Pattented a lot of sh*t. Like "Using a Bow" or "Riding a animal" and they have been doing this since 2019. Now since these are basic gameplay mechanics and most gamecompanies use them. My Guess is that nintendo enforces these Pattents only when faced with can only be descibed as an Existencial threat. In other words. They are using the law as a weapon to fight competition.

[@glowjoe09]

The thing is that if they did sue for copyright infringement palworld could probably get away with it through parody

[@dimasdwiki6146]

Daily reminder that it is morally okay to pirate nintendo games.

[@davidjohnson4171]

Wrong. It's never morally okay to pirate anything that can be reasonably obtained through legal means.

[@Alusion94]

@@davidjohnson4171Except Nintendo games

[@Eternal_Solstice]

@@davidjohnson4171 except nintendo games

[@r.c4145]

​@@davidjohnson4171except nintendo games

[@davidjohnson4171]

@@Alusion94 wrong.

[@jacobcox4565]

It shows dinosaurs in the Nintendo patent illustrations. Does that mean Nintendo can sue anyone who uses dinosaurs in video games?

[@rhetteffectbeats]

"Even though it's not really a threat to pokemon at all" are you sure about that?

[@davidjohnson4171]

It's really not, Pokémon is the single biggest I.P. in existence, it rolls in tens of billions on it's own yearly, Pokémon'll be running long after all of us, our grandchildren, and, if the human species still exists by that point, our grandchildren's great-grandchildren are long dead, in the ground and rotted away to nothing.

[@tellmewhenitsover]

If Nintendo had their way, we would all still be playing donkey Kong in arcades because nobody else is legally aloud to make video games that have: "objects represented by pixels" besides them.

[@TheAllSeeingEye2468]

This is stupid on Nintendo's part. They even atack the poor artists

[@return_h3669]

That patent was made *ON MAY OF THIS YEAR* . Literallly they register the patent *ON MAY 2024* . And they said they would probably lawsuit *ON FEBRUARY* . They just lost it.

[@Mr.JesseR]

The patent was granted, but in japan it was done back in 2021. So the patent already existed in 2021, before palworld

[@elihodsdon2276]

I think they have shown the "patent", it (and I'm not making this up) is throwing something at someone and having something happen. I hope you didn't like throwing things at people.

[@Inquisitorsteve2]

Guess we doing Metal Gear strategy now

[@DrrZed]

Clown Executive Occifer: "Alright people, there is this game that kinda copies ours but also seems more popular! We need to sue them, but we can't find anything to pick on!" Boared manager 1: "Let's make a patent!" Boared manager 2: "And sue them for patent infringement!" Guy with actual good ideas: "Maybe we should actually innovate in our games?" Clown Executive Occifer: >:C {throws the Guy with actual good ideas out of the window like an anti-gravity chocolate}

[@mido3332]

Then PUBG should Sued Fortnite because it's a Battle Royale

[@JDReC100]

Funny thing They did, and failed

[@looney332]

Now we wait until someone patents walking in games