The Nintendo DS/3DS Iceberg

In this video I break down the Nintendo DS/3DS Iceberg, created by Mari on icebergcharts.com. You can find it here: icebergcharts.com/i/The_Ultim...
| Chapters |
00:00 - Intro
00:39 - Tier One
07:52 - Tier Two
16:14 - Tier Three
24:43 - Tier Four
33:28 - Tier Five
42:04 - Tier Six
44:30 - Outro
| Additional Information |
1. tcrf.net/Proto:Nintendo_DSi | Nintendo DSi Prototypes
2. / the_mii_universe_theory | Mii Universe Theory
3. • The Super Mario 64 Ice... | The Super Mario 64 Iceberg
4. • The Portal Iceberg: Ex... | The Portal Iceberg: Explained

[@BB-eq7hb]

Im surprised you didnt mention how various games would also use the blowing into the microphone feature as a game mechanic

[@greenbean501]

i still have ptsd from the train in bowser's inside story

[@tails183]

Ah, yes, the one singular time you have to yell in Phantom Hourglass.

[@thetetrisking]

the one battle in the world ends with you where you have to blow into the mic and can’t attack otherwise

[@benamisai-kham5892]

I would cheat the Mario (can't remember which DS game had it) mini game with balloon blowing by using my box fan as a kid because I couldn't keep a constant flow for the microphone to pick up 😭

[@Septixcake]

@@benamisai-kham5892 That was in Mario Kart :D

[@18thMattinc.]

The DS and 3DS is the best handheld of all time imo

[@GlaceTheAce2222]

This isn’t even an imo this is just straight facts

[@vhateg]

Nah, both are kinda shit (but good in their own way). I own a DS, 3DS and used to have a PS Vita. All modded by me, ofc. The only reason why the DS and 3DS are "better" is the expansive game libraries. Almost all Vita games you can also find on PC and you can easily emulate all PSP games without having to think about the double displays. After getting the Steam Deck, having a Vita or a PSP makes zero sense. I still enjoy my 3DS XL a lot, but calling it "the best handheld" is a stretch. If you ever held a Vita in your hands, you will be astonished by the quality and relative performance.

[@FTChomp9980]

You got that right!

[@Josuh]

@@vhateg i've heard good things about the vita sticks

[@koolaid33]

@@vhateg Talk to me when the Vita has more than 5 games that interest me. I already have a PSP, & a whole lot more games then I'd ever want to play on a Vita, so I just don't think it's worth it much.

[@mps64]

This is such a great video. Some corrections though: Spotpass was just used to send info to the player while they were in sleep mode and connected to the internet. Streetpass Relay points were also used at Nintendo Zones, which used Spotpass to give you the streetpasses of the last few people that visited there. Minecraft DS could also refer to the various homebrew ports of Minecraft. Somewhat disappointed that you never mentioned them, but it's fine lol I'm just a nerd. Good video regardless

[@TheSpikedSpaghetti]

Correction videos are usually par for the course when it comes to iceberg videos, so I'll definitely consider making one a little bit further down the line. Glad you enjoyed the video!

[@Flashcardsinfo]

I think that Minecraft DS stands for the many "proof of concept" fakes that were floating around because Minecraft was said to be impossible on DS. But then DSCraft was made which is pretty much a homebrew version of minecraft for the DS (but with no bedrock/mobs etc).

[@scramblebingus]

you saying the pokémon spin-offs are nothing interesting when mystery dungeon and ranger are right there is astounding

[@akiradkcn]

I was pretty mad

[@aikou2886]

Pokemon Conquest says hi.

[@Biological_Jessie]

DS actually stands for Down Silly

[@LemonNote1]

Downright sugoi

[@stooglesgoogles7246]

Down stinky

[@shaungreer3350]

Dinosaur spaghetti

[@Coldysnapdragon]

​@@shaungreer3350 no of course its "Donut Sea"

[@krisuh11]

Down Syndrome

[@Faze.Holo.]

The reason why New Super Mario Bros Walkthrough Part 2 has so many views is simply because it went crazy in the KZbin algorithim around 2009 along with the fact that it featured gameplay from World 7 which most kids couldn't get to because it required taking a canon into World 5 which most kids couldn't figure out how to do.

[@destroyerkitty9434]

I’m honestly surprised there’s no The World Ends With You entry here. It’s one of the few RPGs I’ve seen that NEEDS the DS because it’s built with it in mind and uses all of its strengths like it’s touch screen and the dual screens. It’s one of the first games I associate with the console. But anyways, fantastic video. I learned a lot and awakened some old DS memories.

[@aikou2886]

Solatorobo as well. I loved that game!

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

7:38 Just a little correction, you can play as Luigi from the very beginning, you just need to do the control combination and that's all

[@thawmas]

I like icebergs when the creator doesn't have an irritating voice 👍 I'll be watching all of this

[@MarioDSLife]

Midnight Krick and NEScRetro are great, check them out!

[@oprazebb]

Noticed a mistake in the first fact. Miis were not only in Japan exclusive DS games. They were also used in Personal Trainer: Walking, which released on DS in Japan, Europe, and The Americas

[@little_finger]

swapnote goes much deeper than your simple explanation. There was alleged predators using the app and targeting children.

[@necturion9610]

I think MKDS credits screen made me cry as a kid. But also Gary running away made me cry as a kid

[@isagf4804]

I don't trust anyone who didn't cry with that episode

[@GingerTyPerior]

I remember seeing an ad for 999 in a Nintendo Power magazine. The creepy figure in a gas mask gave me nightmares for MONTHS. I really want to play it now...

[@MusicComet]

It's a decent game, all the games are available on steam, too! It's definitely a visual novel but they tried to lessen the amount of text on the Steam version, however that really leaves a lot of holes in the plot worsening the experience along the way. The game can get repetitive with its core idea but they let you skip enough parts to be acceptable.

[@magentasky234]

It's a really good game!

[@caitilines]

really great video! there is definitely a lot more obscure stuff not covered in the iceberg, but it was a good comprehensive look at the iceberg. really glad 999 got mentioned, it's one of my fav games/series ever :')

[@Cellatu]

greatly unappreciated imo

[@aikou2886]

Nanashi no game and Dementium are my favorites!

[@NPGLAMB]

I love my 3DS. I wanted my own DS my whole childhood but I lived with a mom who didn’t allow video games. Somehow I got my grandma to buy me a 3DS with games 😂😂😂😂 my mom was mad but I still have it years later.

[@Darkblaze129]

Ok, you just unlocked a memory. I kinda got hypnotized by the Mario Kart DS Credit Scene when I was 10. Watched it on repeat because it made me feel highly sad and melancholic and I got addicted. I don't know if it was just me.

[@Zinkolo]

There's definitely nothing repetitive about phantom hourglass.. I can't imagine anybody complaining about the Ocean King Temple since it was my favorite part. It gave the game very good pacing and allowed you to take shortcuts with the new items you acquired from various temples. It has not aged badly in my opinion. I'm serious there's nothing wrong with it I really like it as a concept and the way it works

[@MusicComet]

I think it's fine too, but I can see why it can get repetitive. You aren't able to teleport any further than floor B5 I think? So the next three floors are actually repetitive and those are one of the longest ones to complete, and doing those twice is enough to get annoying. I replayed the game recently so the memory is fresh.

[@UnderTheSkin13]

The DS "Birthday greeting" is a damn fine way of making you think your speakers are going to die when you try to play a videogame on your birthday.

[@smalljellybean20]

ngl i cried when i turned it on because i thought i fucked the speakers somehow 😭

[@iancamilosanchez]

Nice video. Some other relevant topics not covered by the iceberg include: Cubic Ninja, Flash Games for the 3DS browser, Nintendo Show 3D and downloadable trailers, Walk with Mii, Touch Generations, the DS Nintendo Channel Demos, rainbow colors for Pictochat in DSi and the DSi Settings Music changing based on remaining memory. BTW, what's the name of the song you use at the beginning and end?

[@TheSpikedSpaghetti]

The intro/outro song I used is "Magic Scout - Cottages" by Kevin Macleod. Here is a link to it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJaXnpWsZ7OjrZY

[@AmethystLeslie]

Might I include PDI Check? It was a 3DS eShop oddity.

[@queendiamond770]

I remember DSi's Pictochat having rainbow colors, my cousin was the only one in our friends group to have it, we were so jealous of him! Lol, simple times

[@CRACKBONE7317]

The 3DS is like the most durable thing known to man. My friend has had his for nearly 8 years, and it’s still going strong. He’s been using it regularly the entire time, and has done all manner of things to it. It’s a trooper.

[@CTangeloe]

this was such a fun watch!!! your Mic presence is genuinely impressive, so much so i was surprised to see the 55 subs. I was expecting at least 55k lol keep up the good work

[@mrqwerty567]

It's now 826

[@TheDario64]

AMAZING VIDEO! Genuinely surprised by the quality considering it's your first, super excited to see what's to come!

[@PeytonKarting]

Glad i found this now, this video and your explanations are great!

[@karmatem]

outstanding video! so much nostalgia from all of this aah

[@quarterpastbedtime]

Great video mate, can see you grow a big audience in the future uf you keep up with bangers like these.

[@Leaf-xu4mr]

Nice, keep up the good work!

[@sirsamgrace]

super underrated video and channel. i can see you getting to 100k one day. good job!

[@somechilldude1215]

This vid rocks! I just know this is gonna blow up soon. I’ll be on the lookout for new uploads!

[@atilamachado7379]

Nice video, keep the good work and your channel will grow faster than you think.

[@ReshiramR52]

I subscribed recently. Looking forward to more interesting videos like this one. Good luck!

[@Michael-ep7fp]

As a kid I was going down the stairs with my original DS open, tripped and fell and the top screen snapped off. But before it fully fell off I managed to get into settings and switched the GBA screen to the bottom and it fully functioned as a GBA long after. Didn't break anymore we just got rid of it

[@Salvo_0019]

42 subs, I thought this guy had 1000x more. Jeez, keep up the work man!

[@supertavio2]

Your channel is pretty cool, thank you for this video!

[@jumentoqueanima]

Awesome idea and execution!

[@giggymuun]

i really used to blow into the microphone and watch the icons spin

[@fafniroatormentador]

man, so good video, hope to see more of that! keep on the good work ;)

[@slamlux]

dude this is crazy good for first video I will definitely check out future vids!!!

[@juicebocx4217]

Bro this video is fire, I’ve been binging ds videos to see if I can find a certain game, I can’t quite remember much about it but it was a boat game and in the ending there was a secret where a disgruntled employee would ramble on and talk about wanting to end it all

[@jamesdoesthings1096]

This is a really really well done first video. Like I’m shook I genuinely really enjoyed reflecting back on the DS/3DS days and seeing how much I actually knew. You got something going for this style of video for sure!

[@cadez8386]

Very good video. Was shocked after watching to find you only have 400 subs

[@punkloser1465]

Your narration was pretty good!

[@smalljellybean20]

holy cow you only have 850 subs? good job on the vid bro!

[@rashhvender]

just commenting to sya i was your 500th subscriber. keep up the good work, love it.

[@atiniz]

awesome video bro! very entertaining! 😊

[@SillyLilFella]

Outstanding video, king

[@Kzar5678]

8:23 Since nobody else has said it I will. I enjoyed going through the Temple of the Ocean King multiple times. I speedran it trying to get the timer as close to 0 when I got to the end by using all the shortcuts and extra time pots. I even found a couple unintended shortcuts all on my own while experimenting. This was LONG before I even knew what speedrunning was too

[@GLC48]

I'm really curious as to what the logic was behind initially wanting the GBA and DS to coexist as two separate pillars, despite both being handhelds. I guess maybe Nintendo saw the GameBoy as a product for kids and hardcore gamers, while the DS was meant for adults and casual gamers (games like Cooking Mama, BrainAge, and Nintendogs come to mind). But if that's the case, why go through all the trouble to add GBA support to the DS? Honestly, I think Nintendo probably intended all along for the DS to replace the GBA, but they didn't want to lose any goodwill from people with GBAs, so they supported it for a little while longer until most people transitioned over. It's pretty much the same thing we see nowadays, with PS4 and Xbox One games still being made, despite their successors being over 2 years old now.

[@TheSpikedSpaghetti]

Yeah, that makes the most sense to me. I also failed to mention that the GBA also had connectivity with the GameCube, which might've been important to mention there, but oopsie-daisy.

[@redspiderlilys6]

They were probably scared the DS might fail, so they initially kept support for the GBA just in case the DS was a huge failure

[@ilmiraculousdibill3686]

That's your first video?!? You are really talented!

[@jasperfox6821]

Ah, i remember that birthday message as a kid, i used to playing my ds alot. Also with mario 64 ds, i remember feeling this odd feeling, like something was following me, the game felt eerie despite it being bright and colourful.... its the same feeling people got with the n64 version really.

[@officialjygaming]

Photo Dojo is actually one of my favorite DS Ware games, it needs a sequel

[@gxnshin]

Great video, keep up the good work!

[@ChrisLeeW00]

The korg dsn-12 was great, I even made a website to explore synthesis techniques for it when people kept asking how to do things. Korg made a a few other similar offerings like the DS-10 for original DS and the M01D for 3DS (download only and no longer officially available)

[@twinklemommyyyy]

Hey, you got a link to that website? I love the korg games and would love to check it out.

[@shrekalmighty3059]

Awesome video!!

[@HorseTranquiIizer]

and this is your first video? you only have 400 subs? wth, i would've thought you had more, love the video

[@Ballman404]

Cheeseburger and balls

[@sammieegoldwand]

New Super Mario Bros 2 was my first game on the 3ds and it holds an infinite amount of nostalgia for me even tho i couldnt beat the game because the Boo level where you had to keep looking back was too hard for little 5 year old me Edit: This is really good for being your first video, keep up the good work!

[@earth-turtle]

Might have been because I was 10, but the Ocean Temple in Phantom Hourglass wasn't too much of an annoyance for me

[@LegendaryHedgieMii]

I'm glad I'm not one of the only ones who enjoy Super Mario 64 DS.

[@ThePsychicCellPhones]

Mario Motors sounded like a really cool game I would've liked as a kid :,)

[@queendiamond770]

Have you ever tried Kerbal Space Program? It's the exact same concept :)

[@Axos_Abode]

7:39 correction: completing the game is only necessary in NSMB 2, you can do it the moment you start in the original.

[@thunderdash4547]

So, the "bye-bye" thing is actually in new super mario bros. as well, along with a few of the transformers games I want to say, when you close and open the lid it will make the "transformers noise" the sfx that is played when they change from robot to vehicle and vis versa. Trying to think if there are any more, but ye, it's a feature in a few games on the ds.

[@queendiamond770]

I'm not even halfway throught the video but omg I loved Brain Age! I remember playing with my parents and the game gave both my mom and me 89😭 I cried so much. My dad was the only one that could get a somewhat decent score of 60 or smth and I was so surprised since he was (and still is) a total geek

[@DaSchantinga]

43:15 Omg yeah I felt the same way when I finished the game at age 6

[@ventilo334]

19:46 It was not free because, in addition to this stand-alone controller app, it was part of Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS. So, if you weren't able to use a credit card on the eShop, you had to buy a prepaid eShop card (at the time, the lowest price available was 15€ in Europe and 10$ in North America) or to buy Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS. Nintendo wanted as many people as possible to buy the game on Wii U *and* on 3DS.

[@leanneland]

I’m pretty sure it was Nintendo Zone I used to collect street passes. You could spoof your location by changing the MAC address on your router to collect the street passes. The ‘zones’ were placed in high traffic locations and would fill up in a second. I also had the ambassador certificate and I still have my original 3DS. It was such a great handheld console, I wish Nintendo would release another one.

[@Oretal]

I used to love looking at the Nintendo zone app back then whenever I would go to McDonald’s. I also loved Nintendo Video, it was really nice back then since I didn’t use KZbin back then. I love flipnote btw, my favorite Nintendo product!

[@SASTSimon]

28:46 seeing scotts face there was hilarious

[@arlwiss5110]

the MKDS credits are one of my fav game credits

[@lesinge8868]

Yes I remember feeling terrible as a little monke watching the Mario Kart DS end credits. Back then I thought it was the bad ending because I didn't get A times.

[@jellyfssh]

being there when ray mona dropped the mean girls ds rom was such an exciting time

[@Funtendo99]

Nice video subscribed

[@chimaeraarts]

The ds lite has some pen pressure capabilities and one ds homebrew made use of this called Colors!

[@trollzore95]

YOOO i had that guitar hero ds it was grey and black with a sick GH sticker on it, It also came with a guitar pick stylus! it was my first ds i wish i still had it ):

[@LightFire84]

29:51 the only reason I know them is because there are 2 spirits in Super Smash Bros Ultimate named, Rusty Slugger and Inuji Daremuski or something like that.

[@mrmicsmiley2178]

Who really became a busta that day... and who came BACK

[@TheNeXTGUI]

2:55 that's not true the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon games had a very unique concept of playing as the pokemon themselves instead of a trainer in addition to procedurally generated levels and a turn based overworld. The Pokemon ranger games also had fun action sequences and a different take on capturing pokemon.

[@guydude439]

I remember doing a project at school for the Intelligent Systems Development Kits (cause I'm a fire emblem weeb), and I remember they had like development kits for several consoles because Nintendo could never be bothered to make their own development kits. It's funny tho, because at the time Intelligent Systems was already struggling financially until FE: Awakening hit the 3DS Oh, and I guess Wario Ware existed too

[@SkyfoxDartner]

Do you perhaps know a bit more about the galaxy ds project or where I could learn more about it? Thanks and awesome video!

[@TheSpikedSpaghetti]

Sure! Here's a link to both an article about the project as well as a short video showcase. Glad you enjoyed the video. 1. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYnChGdmltOoj5Y | Showcase Video 2. www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/04/random-another-look-at-the-super-mario-galaxy-ds-fan-project | Article

[@SkyfoxDartner]

@@TheSpikedSpaghetti Thanks again!

[@inktendo]

At 36:17 over the footage of the LovePlus marriage, "soh as bonita pode entrar nisso". That's Portuguese and it means "only the good-looking ones are allowed to enter it" lol

[@zilikslider]

I love the DS/3DS, though Pokémon was the main game franchise I played I believe there were a bunch of great games on those systems

[@Scratch64]

Gary Coleman eats all the ham and leaves NONE for anyone else

[@XDGamerMusic]

ok

[@AliciaInNevada]

Ok

[@Marchingvenusaur]

Pokemon Conquest was my first spinoff game after I played Black and White in 2012. Pokemon spinoffs were just built different 10-20 years ago

[@emperorrayquaza]

My original DS broke at the hinge everytime i dropped it but the DSI XL and 3DS were sure sturdy!

[@simonkorica9467]

This was a game, this is when it was released, repeat.

[@skotiaH2O]

Not giving a mention to the Mystery Dungeon games while talking about Pokémon spinoffs was a real low blow

[@jellyfssh]

you are a very well spoken man

[@maniczzz]

My poor 3ds got completely broken, top and bottom screens completely broken from each other aside from hanging on by one little wire. I was still fully functional and I was able to play games like that for a couple years before it finally stopped functioning. (No, I didn’t get it repaired, I was a small child I didn’t know better 😭)

[@defrostmcfrost1758]

we went from something so wholesome in Beyonce having a good time playing Rhythm Heaven to "Your dog can die in Nintendogs" bro what happened?

[@erbrown1157]

That’s not actually a picture of the nitro system at 30:24 that’s actually what alpha dream used to showcase early builds of Mario and Luigi partners in time to Nintendo before there was an solid prototype or dev kit to use

[@papayacat]

On the iceberg there's another entry at the bottom "The DS/3DS can see you" and I can't seem to find anything about it? What's up with that?

[@octovore_shobon]

37:12 damn it's THAT obscure? People are missing out

[@hauntedsocks7346]

The “Bye-Bye” that mario says can also be heard in New super Mario bros DS upon closing the DS, and the MCDP dump was released to the public by a KZbinr named Nick Robinson.

[@gamertails6347]

The music for the fourth part, the body, sounds very creepy

[@Chris-bz2rf]

Nintendo zone was thet one app that you would open and then it said it's not supported anymore, and dang i remember dinosaur office and the flip note videos

[@tylerbivins9807]

I'm glad to say I'm your 470 subscriber

[@Anonymous-bi5pv]

Pls do a deep dive explaining the mii universe lore

[@TheSpikedSpaghetti]

I've been considering this for a future video, perhaps!

[@mr.potatomanversionsix]

I'm sure someone probably already said this but you don't actually need to complete NSMB to play as Luigi. I'm pretty sure people only believe that because it's required on NSMB2 and because you're told how to play as him at the end of NSMB.

[@akiradkcn]

You are 3 months late lol, look at the new vidro

[@rin11963]

Will you be making more videos? I liked this video very much Subscribed

[@TheSpikedSpaghetti]

Yes, I will hopefully have a shorter follow-up to this video releasing sometime this month. Glad you enjoyed!

[@rin11963]

That's nice👍 Thanks for answering

[@kyokari4]

Funny thing about that smash wiiu controller app is that it WAS free. I randomly had the urge to get it one day and I guess someone put a price on it some day at nintendo

[@Megamean09]

It took 32 minutes for me to hear something new. Some iceberg, this chart is miles above the surface of the water.