The Not So Secret Lives Of Real "Mormon" Wives

[@justalittlebitmo]

Thanks for providing a nice balanced conversation about how devout Latter-day Saints are NOT like that reality show.

[@CwicShow]

You're welcome!

[@noahriding5780]

Probably very few if any of those actresses are actually real LDS. OR they aren't living it. This show as well as the handmaiden show are also Psyops to move the public into position to get the country to shut down the LDS religion in the future. OR to water it down to the point of being near so. And to cause mass rejection of the gospel through bad programming. The Heretic movie is also in a similar position. And it also comes down to... when the economy goes bad people look for someone to hit for it. They want a scapegoat. This is part of why people are going after certain s e m i t i c groups; the countries elites are in fear for all the embezzlement and theft they have done. So they are programming society to go after someone else instead of themselves. Its not a coincidence that all these shows and movies have similar themes. They are sabotage.

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

Ditto

[@RonDoty-i7z]

As a father of five daughters (all with college degrees and 2 in grad school, 3 served missions) all diverse and capable devout disciples of Christ who bless their neighbors, schools and communities this was so refreshing! Mormon Women are Amazing!

[@jnobodysbusiness5654]

Diverse? Why use Marxist ideological verbiage to describe your kids? The mormon church has been inundated with this nonsense to the point that is it not even a shadow of it's former self.

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

Love this comment, thank you!

[@establishingzion688]

"I do not know of one single persecution, of any magnitude, that brought trouble and general distress upon the people of God in this age, that was not brought about directly by means of those that went out from ourselves, who professed to be of us" Parley P. Pratt

[@lifetaketwo7662]

Cultiest quote I’ve read in a looooong time

[@dcarts5616]

@@bobicusrex Church is a hospital for sick people who desire to change (towards Christ) and be healed. I’m sorry you faced persecution from a sick person.

[@livinthedream4479]

Never persecuted from within. Maybe if more people shared what their beliefs were more people would understand us better. I always know LDS people around me but they including me do sometimes keep it quiet for fear of persecution from those who do t understand

[@Ruby_Villain]

@@lifetaketwo7662I wonder if you can comment on this channel without using the word “cult.”

[@Family___2023]

This is true. It’s exactly what the Book of Mormon highlights- dissenters from amongst once “active” church members and covenant makers. The infiltration is more dangerous from within our own congregations than anywhere else.

[@edwardsson777]

Hulu is owned by Disney. Remember that when shopping for items for your children.

[@dl1130]

@@edwardsson777 I discontinued my Hulu account about a month ago.

[@dl1130]

@edwardsson777 I discontinued my account about a month ago. Just have antenna T.V. and don't miss cable one bit!

[@Ruby_Villain]

I grew up going to Disneyland. My kids will never know the place. I’ll take them to Universal or LegoLand a hundred times before visiting the trashiest place on earth, ever again.

[@kolobkolobkolobkolob]

Yeah I don’t and or avoid Disney, they are not what they use to be and cannot believe at times they would be connected with such filth. I can imagine how disappointed the Osmonds are with this as well.

[@BrianWaller-qe7gr]

@@edwardsson777 can’t tell you how many lds women that I’ve come across that were Disney fans. Little do they know how woke Disney is

[@WyoCutlass71]

When I was a missionary I was walking with my companion and a person came up and sang, “Joseph Smith was a prophet.” And I sang back, “Dum dum dum dum dum,” while laughing. The guy was taken back that I could quote the South Park episode to him. We ended up having a great conversation on what we believe and the things South Park got right, and the things they got wrong. I’m not sure what came from it except that the guy was always nice to us when we saw him in the streets. The point is, that we can use all of these media depictions of us to the benefit of bringing others to Christ. A good sense of humor goes a long ways. I think the woman of the church are having their “Mormon Moment” right now and when Netflix releases “American Primeval” the men will get theirs

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

Amen to that!

[@noskalborg723]

Thank you. All of this needed to be said. Especially the part about misconceptions. There are people who still think that believing we can become as God is, is about bring praised like he is. But it's actually about uplifting others.

[@kolobkolobkolobkolob]

We can become as Father in Heaven is, born from a God and becoming a god possibly ourselves, but even so with that, to us eternally we are always His children first and He will always be our God, Our Father in Heaven and He will always be honored and be above us, yet we shall be like Him and can and have the potential to become just like He is, in time and in the eternities become perfect, have our own children as He does, for this is His work and His Glory to bring to pass the eternal life and happiness of men. What a wonderful plan, but soooo many do not understand and think we are teaching we will BECOME GOD, NO NO no that’s not what we understand but we can become like Him and yes potential to become a god, but Not God, He our Father in Heaven will always be God to us. Hope that kinda helps to understand better abt that. Blessings and great comment.

[@noskalborg723]

@kolobkolobkolobkolob I think I understand your distinction, and I think the Evang I was talking to did as well. But the problem is that he thinks we want that for the praise, rather than for the joy of helping others.

[@kolobkolobkolobkolob]

@@noskalborg723 yeah could be. I also like to think things in simple terms, I know we are far from being just like Heavenly Father, God, but since we are His Sons and Daughters it makes me reflect, how different can we be from Him, God in terms of being created in His image, we are likely not so different then Him, God, but just very much more imperfect. But like any Father I’m sure He wants us to be like Him, was thinking how Christ kept telling every one and teaching by example He would say things like, I always do the things that please my Father in Heaven, or Be perfect even as your Father in Heaven is Perfect or just like Christ. He, Christ of Course knew and explained I’m going to die for you so you can be redeemed and I can redeem you if you are willing to repent and, also keep working on becoming perfect even as Father is but not making excuses and sinning when ever we want thinking grace will save us in our open rebellion against Father, God. I know you know these things already but thought I’d just add more to the thread here for just couple minutes. Thank you for your kind reply and insight. Blessings

[@deborahjones8175]

Thanks so much for this content, Greg! I bought the book and cancelled our subscription to Hulu. The Hulu show is a disgusting parody of lies. Thanks also to all the women who contributed to the book.

[@christysatfield8302]

Way back when the Equal Rights Amendment was in the news, Sonja Johnson, a member of the Church, made a big fuss about the ERA; I felt upset because she wanted to make the Church look bad and expressed to my missionary- in-Netherlands friend my feelings. That dear missionary set me straight when she told me that Ms Johnson’s words and actions actually got missionaries in the door because some Dutch wanted to know what the Church’s position was about the ERA. As He always does, the Lord makes a way for … “the truth to go forth boldly until it has penetrated every clime” …. I learned something from my friend that day: get to work instead. Of getting upset because THE LORD WINS!!!

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

Thank you @christysatfield8302

[@PeggyWest1127]

I really wish someone would follow the women that are in general presidency callings around for a few months and do a documentary.

[@Ruby_Villain]

That is a great idea. So much better than the garbage of “real housewives of SLC”

[@DesertMouse298]

Yes, President Camille Johnson is the one to highlight as RS General President she came to speak at BYU Women's Conference. She shared how she was a lawyer, and worked the entire time she had small children because she needed to work to help support her family. I hope someone in the Church that can make this happen, does it. Sort of the like the movie they made called "Meet the Mormons" back during President Monson's time.

[@maryannstout7600]

That is an absolutely marvelous idea. I hope that happens.❤

[@dcarts5616]

@@DesertMouse298She *needed to work* is the key… needed. I would love for my wife to work and give us a HUGE boost in financial security, but I just can’t fathom having my kids come home to an empty house or be raised by people who didn’t birth them if it’s not necessary. I’ll never be rich, my wife and I won’t have three houses, fun cabins with snow mobiles and four wheelers, fancy cars or even a nice wardrobe nor will we be able to afford to go on trips to show people our cool pics of the trips. But I know who is raising our beautiful kids! US!!

[@DapperDan1492]

Would love to know more about the quiet, but spectacular backrounds that the general authorities have. The Primary and Relief Society especially.

[@justalittlebitmo]

The use of the word "real" sent the message to me that these stories are from women who actively embrace their membership in the Church, and are not just tangentially or historically "Mormon." So I think it was good use of the word 👏👏👏

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

I think the word was a great fit, can mean a lot of things. Creating content like @cwicmedia, thumbnails and titles are very important. You watch anything from MrBeast on how to make an impact online... and you will spend a lot of time on thumbnails and titles.

[@ladyjade6446]

Everything good is mocked these days and everything perverse is celebrated.

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

They call good evil and evil good... This is so true today!

[@My_planet_has_rings.]

Our real lives aren’t exciting enough for a TV show.

[@russellball1248]

Our real lives are in fact very exciting, but not for a TV show.

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

I think we could make a pretty good show out of it.

[@rebeccaknudsen6190]

The BOM play was later used by the church to advertise. They said you saw the play the book is better, read the book.

[@michelleb2497]

We went to several countries in Europe a few years ago and it was interesting to see how many cities had advertisements up promoting the play. I was stunned. I actually thought it was awesome because it could definitely be a conversation starter.

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

I love how the Church used this to their advantage.

[@bobettepage4440]

I am active LDS and have a Master’s Degree that I received at age 50 after my 4 children were raised. I have worked my whole life. I was a single mom.

[@lizlambert]

Many women both inside and outside the church raise their children and then pursue higher education. The difference is that women of the church do it because they understand family is first. Im a 4 year convert who got my higher education starting at 40 years old when my youngest child was around 3 How I wish I'd been a church member who could have enjoyed raising my 3 children without being torn in two Now a lawyer and still practicing at age 72

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

I think everyone has such an amazing story. We were told this book only covers successful women. The truth is, you can pick almost any women from the ward directory and get an amazing story for a book.

[@Family___2023]

Regardless of where members stand with their faith or interpretation of the religion, there is absolute doctrinal truth that needs shared and brought to light. People will always choose to live their religion how they want, but it doesn’t change the truths of how it should be lived, according to God’s laws. Good for these women for representing truth, regardless of backgrounds, life experiences, etc.

[@kolobkolobkolobkolob]

Very true indeed, the doctrines are true, but we all are in a class room here on earth learning them, then trying to live them, tripping here and there as we are all subjected to sin etc, all working towards becoming like Father in Heaven and having the potential of becoming like Him. Great comment. Blessings

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

Wow, thank you so much for the support!

[@sktmango]

I was sad when I heard about this show on Hulu. It is so wrong. I love the book that was written that shows how we really live. Keeping our covenants is so important.

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

Thank you for the support!

[@LDaw_96]

A “real” Woman that I know is the one that started the Families Mentoring Families non profit. She had sons serve in Africa and felt the call to do more. She and her family sold everything and moved to Africa to open literacy centers and job support centers with the goal to strengthen families and communities. As much as possible, these literacy centers are run by local leaders. I think they have over 50 centers now. They also welcome and support girls that are rescued from trafficking situations. This is such a huge problem where the reality is so far worse than imagined. It would be so great to continue this conversation by hearing from other woman trying to live their faith like Rebecca Rogers. Her story is so inspiring and show how much more we are really capable of.

[@jaromjones7087]

What is the name of her organization? Just families mentoring families correct?

[@LisaPFrampton]

*women

[@LisaPFrampton]

It sounds like an incredibly inspiring story

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

Love this story, thank you for sharing

[@gamayko]

Those ladies in the movie are NOT “Mormon” the church would excommunicate them for what they are doing. They know they don’t practice the religion and are doing this for money and fame. They can do what they want, it’s their life, but they are not really members even if they claim they are. And no, I am not saying that “sinners” are not members. We are all sinners!

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

Thanks for the comment!

[@stephanieargyle7328]

Loved this. I just ordered the book so thank you!

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

Thank you for your support!

[@tinacarvalhoBodyandHealth]

So very comfortable to be on media with these women. Thank you

[@scottmitts6870]

No unhallowed hand... all things shall be for thy good, and shall give thee experience.

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

One of my favorite D&C passages

[@wayneorr6748]

Such a great project it is important that we show that we women that have rich beautiful lives, that face the same problems as other women do. Love the added blessing of restored knowledge that has blessed me as a women, and mother

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

Dito, love this comment

[@m4oni]

Oh gosh, From the thumb nail, I thought "Oh COOL, it's LDSpreppergirl and Sister Condie!" I guess I spend a bit of time on social media. LOL

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

lol, @m4oni we need more people like you supporting (Like, Following) the content they want to see more of.

[@danielloveridge9379]

That was a brilliant idea to publish about regular women. These "Wives of ____" reality shows aren't very reality at all. I simply don't see very many women walking around dressed for a royal ball at all times, or ever. TV promotes exageration.

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

So true

[@barb8255]

Sharing the lived experience of a culture will always be extremely diverse. Just look at how many opposing stories you get of the lived American experience. I did get the feeling there I is a "right" way to be a "mormon" wife, which will always lead to judgemental behaviors. My lived experience as a mormon wife was not the same as the Hulu show or your guests today. I'm glad the conversation is out there and happening. More light on a subject usually leads to a better understanding of everyone involved.

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

I wrote my chapter in the book about my experience. What I have seen on the Hulu show and social media I don't relate to aswell. Thank you so much for your comment!

[@My_planet_has_rings.]

The Hulu show should be called “The Real Lives of Narcissistic Mormon Wives.”

[@tinacarvalhoBodyandHealth]

But would bro Mormon agree they behaving as God taught

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

😀🥰

[@godsoffspring4195]

From the little I've seen of that show, It should be renamed to: Falling Angels Of Confusion In Some Mormon Wives.

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

lol

[@EphraimFootball]

It’s totally ok to admit you’re offended by the Hulu show. I am!! (see minute 21). They are mocking and representing our faith wrongly. Satan is loving this move, and I am sickened and saddened that it’s out there and that people like it and watch it! Flee Babylon and don’t support these types of shows.

[@TheMormonSorceress]

Interesting what was meant to make fun or criticize us ends up turning to our advantage.

[@LatterDaisySaint]

The Saints always come out on top.

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

So true!

[@magitekarms60]

Stick of Joseph set represent!

[@Sword_of_Laban]

21:53 Love Kerry Owen! She is a force for great good in the world. We were in the same ward.

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

I had not meet her we wrote the book together with the other ladies. I can tell you, she is an instant friend, love her

[@tiffanycasquino2448]

I had the EXACT same questions about the Jewish Netflix series. Haven’t looked up the answers yet. Anyone have those answers?

[@shireecox122]

I love this ❤

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

Me to

[@incogneato790]

The entertainment industry can't comprehend what real faith is like so they portray people of faith as either ignorant, naïve, hypocrites or evil. That is what they can understand.

[@michellescott619]

Look at Greg getting snarky lol😅 34:48

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

Greg did a great job, love @cwicmedia

[@richardrobison]

Pretty much represents all the normal people that work out at the treehouse fitness club in draper

[@LatterDayWoman]

Good show however poor Shayla hardly was able to get a word in and would liked to have heard more from her.

[@sendlazarus430]

Thank you!!

[@Fear_Not_Believe]

Canceled my Hulu subscription when I found out about this show. Not interested in supporting people who hate us. Good thing I have shows like the Cwic show to watch instead.

[@confusedwhynot]

Dear Greg, I don't think we are run of the mill Latter Day Saint women. We are women who desire to follow Christ and care for others. We are all striving to be covenant keepers and disciples of Christ. That in my book is not run of the mill. Also I'm not sure the word normal defines us accurately. At least in my opinion!!

[@bloviax]

You ladies that are committed to the path are the GREATEST, please keep it up!!! Don't let this world get you down!!!

[@Kimberly.DowDell]

Thank you!

[@dl1130]

It is of my opinion that it is more of a member trigger than what the general population understands of the church membership. You can't change world opinion. You can only change how YOU view yourself in the mirror.

[@katesomossy4157]

It is inaccurate to say SLOMW doesn't represent church members and the cast are not "real" members. If you look at Jana Riess' research, the Hulu show does accurately represent many of the Millennial generation of members. But I get why GenX and older would say this is not us.

[@CwicShow]

This just isn't true. While some members of the church who are active or semi-active my have these lifestyles, it is a small percentage. And yes, I have read Jana's book.

[@katesomossy4157]

@@CwicShow 40% of active Millennial members drink coffee and 25% alcohol. 36% of endowed Millennials wear garments compared to 84% of Boomers. 57% Millennials "know" Christ was literally resurrected compared to 83% of Boomers.

[@celestiallymindedsaints]

I am a millennial, and I can't personally think of a single active Latter-day Saint woman of my generation who is accurately represented by these women and their lifestyles. I don't doubt there are some out there like them, but in my experience living in a densely Latter-day Saint populated area, they are not an accurate representation at all.

[@katesomossy4157]

@@celestiallymindedsaints I also personally don't know them either. But Jana Riess' surveys show of active Millennial members 40% drink coffee, 25% drink alcohol and only 36% wear garments.

[@celestiallymindedsaints]

@katesomossy4157 Do you know who she surveyed? Members themselves? Their bishops? I personally have never been asked to fill out a survey like that. Those numbers are very sad if they're accurate, but I'm not sure how accurate they are since I'm not sure every active millennial member has been accounted for.

[@misfyresalot]

Interesting

[@pinayme11]

There's no such thing as bad publicity 😊 #proudLDS

[@redr1150r]

Anything that fuels a bit of "Mockery" . It's the same ideas that brought about that series about the Amish.

[@jaylilburn391]

Thanks to good lds women. I have one nitpicky thing. I would love if everyone would stop with additive language. 'Lived experience' is just experience. I know i know. Just grates on my ears.

[@MattMorency]

All news is good news to them that love God and are open to unforeseen opportunities.

[@rodneyjamesmcguire]

I've learned that many times, but not always, rebutting the absurd lends a sense of legitimacy to what you're rebutting. The show in question is absurd and anyone who knows practicing Mormons, knows that. I don't engage in trying to rebut flat-earthers, but it sure is entertaining to watch their brain dead nonsense at times. Same with this, in my opinion.

[@brendamartin3444]

The tv show is the true experiences of members who are outliers The book is the true experiences of members who are not outliers Both experiences are true, both experiences matter…

[@dcarts5616]

… only one experience gets featured on a secular media network intended to promote the secular side of a non secular organization. Only one experience is an accurate depiction of the LDS faith. Only one is salacious enough to be broadcast, and it’s not the faithful covenant keeping experience. We’re not a monolith, but we’re not shallow and we’re not trying to distance ourselves from the doctrines held dear to us either.

[@dl1130]

@dcarts5616 I agree with everything but your last sentence. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has distanced itself from the doctrines of the restoration.

[@lifetaketwo7662]

Thank you for this comment!

[@SarahBoyden]

@@dcarts5616 it very much felt like she was trying to distance herself from the doctrine of polygamy. It is an eternal doctrine.

[@dcarts5616]

@@SarahBoyden Interesting.

[@bback4u]

There are plenty of stay at home moms that have chosen that lifestyle. I do not like the implicarion even here on CWIC. There is a tone here that those women are somehow less. Not so.

[@CwicShow]

Not true. Not even close. Both of these women are essentially stay at home moms as well.

[@dcarts5616]

Agreed.

[@Family___2023]

These women seemed more interested in promoting their book than standing for truth. To chock it up that it’s all about diversity in how we choose to live our religion, rather than stating what is right and true, seems somewhat cowardly to me. Stories are nice, conviction of living the Gospel as it is intended to be lived, is another.

[@TheMightyJor]

She frequently references the Church’s statement about the Hulu show. However, the statement was made before the show was released, meaning it was a response to the marketing rather than the content of the show itself. It’s not accurate to say the Church commented on the show itself, as it hadn’t seen the show before issuing its judgment.

[@MrMpettus]

And your point is? The leaders of the church stay on top of issues affecting the members and the church. They don't have to watch the whole show to start making a righteous judgement. They had the names of the show participants abd all they had to do was contact their stake presidents. Hello.

[@DifferentKindofMormon]

Watch Money lovers~

[@lifetaketwo7662]

The women on the series are sharing THEIR story, and it in no way has anything to do with all the other Mormon women who get ample representation in the media. The defensiveness of members of the church coupled with the chronic persecution complex gets old.

[@dcarts5616]

@@lifetaketwo7662 *YAWN*

[@bloviax]

Those women are the most ridiculous humans on earth. They clearly have no concept of the gifts they were handed and decided to chase the shiny and demean the saints by claiming to be of them. WINNING!

[@Ruby_Villain]

Your repetitive comments on this channel have gotten old long before anything else you claim

[@lifetaketwo7662]

@ I’m sure you’d love me to be silent. Hard pass.

[@harmonillustration]

What was that thing you said on a Ward Radio video about stalking again?

[@minchosuertudo3559]

The brunette needs to let others talk.

[@PapaKryptoss]

Bwahaha 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Have ever seen her on other podcasts?