Reacting to claims made by Secret Lives of Mormon Wives

[@coleygyaluv]

I hope one day there is an actual show about ACTIVE LDS women and the reality and beauty of living the gospel

[@charlybucket2691]

Hear, hear!!! Don't think most of the world would watch it. They're all too busy filling their minds with trash.

[@playerb5202]

I'm an agnostic and I would love to watch this and learn more about your faith!

[@Anakin.Apologist]

No thanks! 🫢

[@adamslater7486]

That is boring and wouldn't sell well.

[@jessicaloveridge2759]

Me to except no one would watch it because it’s so chill

[@RyanMercer]

My wife and I shamelessly binged it when it went up. Hardly "mormon". Going to Vegas and proclaiming you've forgotten your garments when your current outfit wouldn't even cover them is role playing at best.

[@N8tron97]

Is that something that happened in the show?

[@RyanMercer]

@@N8tron97 yes. They go to Vegas to go to Chippendales and one starts freaking out she forgot her garments even though her outfit wouldn't begin to cover them.

[@RusselGeist]

We have a Distribution Center in the Deseret Book here in Las Vegas, so if one is truly troubled about forgetting your garments when traveling, there's an easy solution. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@RyanMercer]

@@RusselGeist they just needed drama

[@N8tron97]

Oi vey. I don’t doubt what you said about needing drama. Because…how does one forget to pack garments for a trip?

[@harmonillustration]

This looks less like “Mormon” wives and more like “affluent suburban influencer” wives. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@mrbrian87]

Nailed it!

[@zionmama150]

YUP

[@allenturner5832]

You forgot "narcissistic influencer wives looking for more attention"

[@aluci9395]

Stuff like this is so interesting to me because i’ve grown up in utah my whole life. i was born here, but my parents werent. theyre from latin america, so I’ve grown up going to spanish wards. The culture in spanish wards compared to english wards is also so different that a lot of things i learn about “utah culture” are things ive never even heard of.

[@Hi-jw7oq]

In other words, you think Spanish wards have a better culture even in Utah.

[@TheAlchemist1]

​@@Hi-jw7oqdifferent =! Better... Just let the man speak without stuffing words in his mouth

[@julieweight]

I live in Utah and can safely say that this stuff is not happening in my area. Calling it Utah culture is a stretch, I think it’s more of a few affluent areas in Utah. No one I know drinks soda like that or gets Botox and laughing gas is more like Valium it calms you it doesn’t make you high. We’ve had girls get pregnant out of wedlock and they were completely accepted and loved. Makes me grateful to be where I am. I do agree that people in the LDS faith should not judge and should love and accept everyone, so maybe there is something to digest in the show, although I won’t be watching.

[@msorensen1581]

Same here. Been a member my whole life, living in Utah my whole life and have never even heard of women in the church doing most of these things. The producers of this show carefully cherry-picked the people they casted.

[@kathealey]

Lived in Draper......definitely a lot of this going on. You are going to find whatever you are looking for good or bad with the members of the church. Focus on the gospel and Jesus Christ is important because the members are flawed just like everyone is.

[@Uncookednote]

This show is way more about Utah than it is about the church

[@coleygyaluv]

My thoughts exactly

[@naoden]

Utahn here. I would even narrow it down to Utah county...

[@brookebennett6006]

@@naodenUtah county wife here, it’s even more narrow than that lol. Never met anyone like these ladies especially in my own stake/ward.

[@jessicaloveridge2759]

Yes! When I first moved to Utah I had the hardest time. The culture here can be really messed up. That being said I have found that it helped me strengthen my testimony in the gospel rather than in the people.

[@kathealey]

LDS from Texas here. Yeah, this seems very Utah centric. And all walks of life in the church.

[@nicread2102]

This show's enduring value may be as a visual aid when teaching Seminary or Institute, to show how the Nephites looked each time they became entitled, proud and haughty.

[@kaitlynmartinez8574]

I’m sooooo glad you’re talking about this show. It’s craaazzyy!

[@ty16080]

Yeah the whole thing is hardly a good or accurate representation of LDS members or the LDS faith. While some will take more seriously than they should, I feel like the majority of people can easily see that this is a cash grab for Hulu and at it’s best is merely entertainment and nothing to be taken seriously.

[@junhonglim3062]

Hopefully, but I think they won't because of how much hate the members of the Church get

[@thenumber1stupifier]

Yeah most Mormons come across as normal church going folk

[@gracechurch1791]

Yes, Church is for the sinners, but it's also NOT a place for publicity stunts. If she invited them as her friends that's one thing, and no one bats an eye when less active members come to blessings. And I don't know how much backlash they actually got for coming or if it was imagined or expected, but yeah, I would be irritated if women from a show that made LDS women look silly, paraded into a baby blessing just for the show.

[@msorensen1581]

Exactly. A baby blessing is a sacred event, usually the first big spiritual event that happens to our precious children when we welcome them into this world. I wouldn’t want someone to possibly use it for anything related to a reality show. My faith and sacred family experiences are not for your entertainment. Now, if she wasn’t associated with this show, but still was preggo - and not even an active member, I’d invite. But because of the association with the show, I wouldn’t invite.

[@SaxSpy]

the laughing gas thing was definitely a thing pushed in editing. it seems like a one off joke that they go for the gas

[@charlenelundquist3512]

I first learned about 'dirty soda' at an A &W in 1973 in Palo Alto, California. I never lived in Utah and I'm a life long Saint.

[@toddjackson3136]

My wife has been getting botox injections for years as part of her migraine management. Never has she been offered laughing gas as part of it. I think its part of whatever shtick the spa does for their clients.

[@markstenquist2315]

If the line of reasoning was "you have cameras following you around and I don't want them in my home, and whatever drama show your doing isn't allowed either," then I'm good with not inviting them.

[@wwrk25]

My urologist calls soda drinks, "bladder irritants". Leave it to a Doctor to ruin my life!

[@dannyrocket77]

Before I joined the church I use to drink coffee and I had to pee every 30 mins...same with Soda. I'm glad I don't drink either now. ❤

[@cub3head]

The Utah-Soda hypothesis is completely false. Just do a quick search online and you can see many other states top the list as far as daily soda consumption. Yes, Utah might be the ring leaders of the trendy dirty soda shops but that doesn’t translate into consuming the most soda.

[@D-Flin]

100%. Lots of america has a soda addiction. I worked in a rural manufacturing plant. Those guys chugged energy drinks and sodas all day.

[@asianguru069]

I hope you guys review it some more with more context! Would I call these moms members? Yes since they are baptized and know the culture within Utah. Would I call them actively trying to follow Christ's example? Not at all, since most of the played up actions are either for more Momtok clout or dramatizing their lives. I think they give an interesting perspective on the opposite spectrum of members compared to the other version Hulu/other streaming services show in like Under the Banner of Heaven/Keep Sweet (I also understand those both went into extremely sects not related to LDS faith) but it's definitely not an accurate representation of average members trying to be good examples. Even the transition shots of churches weren't our buildings except for some outsides of temples which had me rolling.

[@ladybugmom10]

Agree. For some reason the lds is prime target for money makers. And not in a good way.

[@mekareed895]

I don't think the church allowed HULU to use actual shots of church buildings and temples and what not after the first promos came out so they had to use other religious buildings in the transition shots.

[@molliehoward3633]

I've been DYING to watch this saints unscripted video. Thank you for making it!!🎉

[@Aristotle33]

The reasons and rationale given by these Mormon gals is demonstrably false and in many cases absurd. This show should be extolled as examples of people who make decisions based upon poor reasoning and rationalization. They also seem to be saying that because members are imperfect in some areas, it’s okay for me to act out immorally - sexually so. I didn’t notice if the show called that out.

[@naoden]

Further evidence of a correlation between hot and stupid, no matter your faith.

[@karendinkel9040]

I think it’s all pretty much played up for drama so they can sell the shoe

[@incogneato790]

A baby blessing can be done by someone other than the father as long as they worthily hold the priesthood and the parents want it that way. When my youngest daughter was to be blessed my parents traveled quite a way for it. Just before sacrament meeting it dawned on me that my father never got to bless any of his children (he joined the church years after we were all born). I last minute asked my father to do the blessing. He later told me he had been praying he would get to do that since he never got to bless his own, but didn't feel it was right to ask.

[@freyast2213]

I’ve had Botox tons of times & it doesn’t hurt why would they be getting gas. Lip injections kill, so maybe they’re getting both done.

[@lbranson2690]

The things I've heard about TikTok are why I don't have TikTok ... That platform sounds terrifying 😨

[@BelleRose11000]

I've been a member of the church my whole life. I have never known a member of the church who has had Botox (though I'm not in Utah, I'm in Oregon; don't know if it's a Utah thing 🤷🏻‍♀) Not every member of the church is the same. Yes sadly there have been members of the church who have been judgmental. But most whom I have known have been non-judgmental and welcoming of those who strayed away. We're happy to welcome them back.

[@tarryp711]

Botox is actually a pretty big thing in that age group in Utah. I have 2 cousins whose wives got Botox/filler every month or so, right there with touching up their highlights and permanent makeup.

[@krazymomproductions4423]

I'm a member in Oregon too! Yeah, the Botox thing isn't really a thing here amongst members. I think there's quite a bit of cultural differences between Utah LDS and those living outside of Utah. But that could just also be a cultural difference between states in general. I feel like members here in the Pacific Northwest tend to go a little more natural with things like makeup, hair, and just how we dress in general.

[@BrianTerrill]

Single moms have challenges in life the church is better able to help them with. Yes, we know the law of chastity. we know they didn't keep it, but the welfare of the baby and mother take priority. Dating as a single mom is a different thing altogether. When I was single, I dated several single moms, and for me, it was the challenge that I felt I had to compete with an ex lover, and that made me nervous, others wouldn't care. Those are just realities.

[@mekareed895]

I didn't know people still thought like that outside of highschool. No shade. I mean it sincerely. I really didn't know.

[@BrianTerrill]

@mekareed895 Well, listening to a neighbor arguing with his stepdaughter about something he wasn't letting her do and finding out she was the stepdaughter by hearing her scream, "You're not my dad" Might have had an impact

[@mekareed895]

@@BrianTerrill yeah, the very few cases like that make the majority of the cases, which aren't like, that look bad.

[@jessicaloveridge2759]

On the baby blessing… with big families we don’t usually invite our entire friend group to a family blessing. My husbands family alone takes up 5 pews at church. Inviting everyone would be hard on the ward.

[@latter-dayfilmguy1382]

TikTok was getting insufferable for a while...

[@jessicaloveridge2759]

In my experience people will judge them less for what they did and their desire to come back and more for making a public mockery of our religion.

[@drakelordiscool]

22:01 most likely, they tried to get the cameras/production team to show up too... and the bishop was like, yeah that's a no go - but that's just a possibility

[@N8tron97]

Right. Hard to say without the context. I’d like to think most wards (even in Utah) to see someone less/inactive come to church. Baby blessing or no.

[@riskkerroo724]

When I was blessed as a baby it was in church and when the time came they asked those invited to come up and my moms dad who is not a member started walking up when he saw that all my dads family and even his own son went up and my dad sort of panicked cuz he didn’t want have to tell him to go sit back down. So instead they included him in the circle and said nothing but my dad changed the wording so instead of saying the priesthood “we” hold he said “I” hold. 😅 But I always thought that quick thinking and really special actually

[@jordanbraginton7640]

I don't think soda or coffee is a party drink...

[@brianstarkes1490]

I am sorry you even had to waste your time and energy on this topic... But glad you laid it straight for anyone really curious

[@playerb5202]

I'm so sorry if this has been asked a million times before. I'm just a little bit confused if alcohol and coffee are prohibited because they're bad for you and prevent you from "taking care of your body" how does soda not fall into that category? I know I'm not entitled to an answer but I would love to understand better. Much love and thanks!

[@charlenelundquist3512]

The Word of Wisdom says many things. It states hot drinks aren't good for your belly....that has been revealed to be coffee. Coffee is addictive and hot coffee isn't good for your throat. It states that Alcohol is good for medical uses, (I think). I haven't got my scriptures open in front of me. It states that tobacco is good for horses....it cleans them out. Further down in the Word of Wisdom it states that all things should be used sparingly for our health...(I'm paraphrasing). So, should we drink a 6 pack of soda a day? Of course not. Do some people drink a 6 pack a day? Yep. People are people.

[@712iamMe]

It's not necessarily about being bad for you. Alcohol impairs your decision making function. I also heard an interesting argument about herd immunity. Not everyone who drinks will become addicted to alcohol, but in a place where nobody drinks you are protecting the more suseptible. Coffee contains caffeine in higher amounts than a regular soda. Caffeine can also be highly addictive and cause withdrawal symptoms the same as other drugs. It's also why we don't drink tea. Can people still get addicted to caffeine in soda? Yes. I know people who have to drink coke every day. The Word of Wisdom is a product of it's day, 200 years ago. It addressed very specific health issues at the time, so by definition, it doesn't talk every single bad thing we should avoid today that weren't issues back in the day. You're supposed to adhere to it's teachings, but also use sound judgement on other matters of health. To me, any substance that can cause an addiction has three ability to rob me of my agency. The whole point of this life is to learn how to properly use our agency, thus anything that prevents me from exercising that gift from God should be avoided.

[@DesertPrimrose]

I watched two episodes. In all of my decades as a member of the church, having lived in three states and having attended an LDS college, I've thankfully never encountered such a vapid group of women 🤷‍♀️ And now I guess I need to repent for judging them...This is partly why I don't choose to live in Utah or the East Valley in Arizona which has been heavily influenced by Utah culture.

[@rutht2023]

You will know them by their fruits.... 😄

[@sama.scraps]

This is not Utah mormons...thanks for the judge, once again!

[@DesertPrimrose]

@@sama.scraps uh...you're welcome

[@rachelrasmussen1101]

I dont know what was being smeared on her face, but it wasnt for botox. I assume it was a chemical peel or facial. As for laughing gas for Botox? I can understand it if you have anxiety from needles. But its not completely benign. That said, your impairment is not the same either. However, why is impairment even the thing we are judging? Heber J Grant was clear he did not want the recreational use of habit forming substances. He also clarified dose matters. Getting botox 3-4 times a year is not likely going to lead to dependence. Your body is a temple, but its also a tool

[@macadameane]

It's EMLA cream. It's used to numb and reduce pain.

[@maritzajaquez7662]

They rest of the girls weren’t invited because the Father didn’t really know the rest of the girls or husbands. I would do the same thing and I’m not even Mormon! 😅 and the other reason was because one of the girl and her husband disrespected the rules about drinking while at the girls husband’s parents home. Totally disrespectful

[@dinocollins720]

Another fantastic video! Thank you!

[@jessicaloveridge2759]

I have the upmost respect and love for anyone of any religion going through their faith journey. But these women are profiting off of being “bad Mormons” and the lamenting about how unfairly they are treated.

[@mekareed895]

Thanks for making this video. I would have also liked to hear what the women thought about these specific clips too since they are women too.

[@SaintsUnscripted]

Absolutely! We originally had women scheduled to film this episode but they both fell sick so we pulled in some emergency subs :)

[@gwengold8154]

​@@SaintsUnscripted nice that Ron Howard and Alan Alda could make it on such short notice! 😊

[@blondandsmart1]

The person that was un-invited to the baby blessing is an ex-Mormon and she pregamed (drank some alcohol) before the event. The drama was around the fact that she was UN-invited to the baby blessing. The people that did the un-inviting didn't seem to trust that Jessi would come to the baby blessing not drunk or tipsy. Jessi was also the only one in the group who had openly left the church (she had a bad experience with her first husband who was an active member. She cheated on her first husband, and in other podcasts say that she never felt fully accepted by her first husbands family because they were all active members and were super self righteous and judgmental).

[@genasseeceline]

12:47 Exactly. It’s about what can we do and how can we *more fully * follow Jesus - not get as close as possible to the line 😏😂

[@Croaven]

2:53 vulnerability? She is on a television show talking about it. I don't think she is all that afraid of being judged about it. Maybe I'm just too cynical these days.

[@marenure3496]

Good job you guys 👏👏

[@charlybucket2691]

Babies who are blessed at home.....require a member of the bishopric or the EQP to be present. Whether its done during Sacrament Meeting or at home, all family, friends, neighbors, etc are welcome to attend.

[@The_Mister]

The show just looks incredibly boring. Who would be entertained by this?

[@SaintsUnscripted]

Millions 😅

[@blackRXrider]

There is a tv show on hulu or either Max that had a fictional Mormon in Japan. She goes AWOL and starts working at a club.

[@jacks5901]

lol. Utah Valley Pediatrics in Provo. My daughter noticed the same thing

[@cortpeterson8772]

Okay are we not going to talk about the shelf behind you is about to fall off?

[@SaintsUnscripted]

lol 😂 we just avoid touching it and hope for the best

[@michellevincil4535]

So much of this is just bizarre. Also, Utah culture very different from culture in "the mission field"

[@sama.scraps]

Not normal Utah culture. Maybe in the money areas...but probably not because my husband's family lived in those areas and the people were wonderful. It's fake!

[@Simple-ist]

I have definitely had my inactive and non-member family and friends invited to baby blessings and baptisms. It’s a family event. As long as they are respectful to the event they should be included. However I can say I was so disappointed by the nasty looks my bearded brother who smelled of cigarette smoke received when he came to support me at my graduation from a church school. People glared at him as though he shouldn’t be there. I was thrilled he came. People can be judgy unfortunately.

[@phalenkell8762]

They won’t because this is an extremely lazy segment with little to no research or context

[@andrewreed4216]

Body is a temple... that actually mean the inside and outside.. so botox etc is also a violation. We lds members outside of the USA are gravely saddened at those women and men trying to be like the world. Baby blessings should include the father.

[@coreymcleod2899]

9:00 Just FYI, anywhere in the world will have soda at parties (even if alcohol is there)🤣

[@williampaul7932]

She loves our faith. That's why she's on this deceptive show!🙄

[@genasseeceline]

Okay I love yall & this channel so much. BUT why are 2 men talking about the Mormon wives show 😂 get some female Latter Day Saints on here for this too please 🙏🏼🙏🏼😂😂 (I’m active LDS just fyi, not a hater 😂)

[@coleygyaluv]

I like soda but not that much, so much sugar and so bad for you

[@beckywheeler9372]

A couple of “Nerd Boys” weighing in….LOL…ridiculous! 😐

[@mleeb56]

Love you guys, but you've got to watch the "like"s. Very distracting.

[@thevideogamesrealm]

Wilson is so cute ngl

[@victoriagledhill5872]

Sorry you wasted your precious time watching that.

[@Tofflemire5]

who gets nitrous for botox lol...

[@ChristianAuditore14]

You should not get elective plastic surgery

[@howardkenneth5569]

IT REALLY BEGS THE QUESTION, does the mormon church tend to "sanitize" information that does cast a good image on Joseph Smith?

[@shireecox122]

Yip. I’m a popaholic.

[@sama.scraps]

Mt Dew....mmmm

[@marcustatari7318]

I prefer Diet Coke in the morning instead of Coffee, it's got the caffeine and minus the burn and stomach acid issue. Utah still has a 70 percent LDS population. Deseret Book Stores only Exist in Utah.

[@familythrailkill402]

There are Deseret bookstores in many states, Arizona, Idaho, California, Washington, many

[@foreignfilmfan]

They couldn’t find at least one woman to co-anchor this episode about mainly women?

[@SaintsUnscripted]

Hey! I appreciate your concern. This video was supposed to be filmed with 3 hosts (in which at least one female is present) but our female hosts were unavailable to film (in fact, these two hosts are subbing for the hosts that were actually scheduled to film 😅). But either way, I think it’s okay for these two to have opinions on the thoughts expressed in a show with the title of their faith community. ❤️