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What is the connection between Sister Irene and The Conjuring's Lorraine Warren? I have the answer to that and the other mysteries of this character!
CONFESS YOUR SINS. Irene Palmer is the main protagonist of the Nun spin-off series, a part of the wider Conjuring franchise (The Conjurverse). When she was originally cast to Taissa Farmiga, real life sister of Vera Farmiga (who plays Lorraine Warren), speculation immediately began to swirl about who this character really is. Was this a younger version of Lorraine, a sister, or possibly another relative altogether?
The Nun and The Nun 2 contain little clues that we can use to piece together the history of Sister Irene and start to answer some of the questions of her backstory.
In this video I'll be going over the entire timeline of Irene, from her troubled childhood, to her adventure at the Abbey of St. Carta in Biertan, Romania, to her years as a nun and finally, her last known confrontation with Valak in Tarascon, France.
I'll also be analyzing her relationships to other characters like Frenchie, Father Burke, Cardinal Conroy and Father Ridley -- as well as the less friendly relations with the ancient evil demon: Valak, the defiler.
Finally, I'll be discussing where she fits into the horror genre and why I was disappointed with the further development of her character in The Nun 2 and how it could have been better by taking cues from the Insidious franchise. This is the ultimate guide to Sister Irene Palmer!
Chapters
0:00 The Birth of Irene Palmer
1:36 Intro
3:12 Teaching in London, England
6:11 The Cursed Abbey of St. Carta
8:51 The Meaning of "Saved by the Bell"
9:36 The Presence of Valak
13:51 A Nun's Vows
15:16 Sealing Valak (i)
18:24 The Next Four Years
19:30 Investigating Valak's Re-emergence
20:42 St Lucy Patron Saint of the Blind
21:30 Trouble at Hotel Tarascon
23:22 Retrieving the Eyes of St. Lucy
27:11 Irene's Vision Explained
29:52 Defeating Giga Valak
30:29 The Problem With Sister Irene's Story Arc
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[@shaivishastri5739]

I actually thought that sister irene was Lorraine's ancestor but seeing they both exist at the same time gives me hope that they would meet

[@AbeM.]

Turns out that being in Europe just makes it look like you live in the distant past

[@shaivishastri5739]

@@AbeM. Hahahaha really 🤣

[@wingerding]

They're cousins they've met many times.

[@shaivishastri5739]

@@wingerding when? In which movie would you say? I meant on screen btw

[@sempiternels]

it is rumoured they will meet in the conjuring: last rites

[@AdamIshak01]

So does no one feel bad for Frenchie? My man didn’t deserve all that. Even with valvak being destroyed twice he still had evil laying dormant in him.

[@babyvia6712]

I love Frenchie forever 😢

[@Darklovefly]

Honestly I love Frenchie and feel bad for him. He's such a sweetheart 😭

[@AdamIshak01]

@@Darklovefly I agree! I hate what happened to him :(

[@AJ-pu9jq]

When he was scratching his neck at the end of the first one My friend and I both were like nooooo😢

[@summerwintermelon]

Yeah I remember feeling like this as well when I watched Ringu: Birthday.😢

[@benmansell5457]

"Wait there were no survivers" " yes there were nun"

[@zombiepiecesgaming5018]

Nun puns 🤣

[@benmansell5457]

@@zombiepiecesgaming5018 it's a bad habbit

[@Toonwalla2010]

now now. We'll have nun of that here😜

[@crochet_constellations]

this needs more replies

[@benmansell5457]

@@crochet_constellations there should be less so there's nun

[@brianm3160]

The fact that Lorraine's actress as well as Sister Irene's actress are siblings

[@xiaoramyun]

No wonder they look alike so much that i thought that lorraine is the descendant of sister irene 😂😂😂

[@AlexDonahue-fv3oy]

Not sibling.. the actor playong Lorraine is the mother of the actor playig Irene

[@kooscherries]

​@AlexDonahue-fv3oy No they're sisters and it's literally said in the video 💀

[@jermainewilliams965]

Definitely sisters 🤣

[@Zeion97]

That bar scene over getting the key from her cold, dead hands was hilarious, lol. Perfect acting!

[@hannahdelvecchio7521]

Have you seen the sequel

[@neonicon8500]

Eh

[@crimsonffire]

The part with valak floating with the light behind him is like a reverse of the images of Saint Mary using floating and a light behind her, but instead valak is taking on that image but the dark version.

[@arjayaisis4928]

While watching the nun 2 i feel like watching an anime, with the flashbacks of sister irenes mom, while she was burning and valak had its own "domain", good thing they defeat that domain with loraine powering up sister irene 🎉

[@lindamarie8632]

“Imagine if you were dating a girl and then she decided to become a Nun.” As a Catholic girl who has heard many We broke up since they felt called to become a Priest/ Nun stories, I have only seen exs get salty if the person left before final vows and married someone else. 😒 We usually just say “God gets all the good ones” and take it in stride.😅

[@onuhrita5009]

Oh my goodness, I had this cute older family friend who decided to take his vows. So I was crying to my brother that " "why is God taking the pretty ones?!" My brother replied " do you want him to take the ugly ones?! "😅

[@honda-akari]

Sounds like great indoctrination.

[@eliqk3qt2rg5v]

Never understood the vowing to be celibate honestly.

[@onuhrita5009]

@@eliqk3qt2rg5v I feel it's more of a personal thing. Giving a something of pleasure to God.

[@projectjupiter5523]

​@@eliqk3qt2rg5v i'm not catholic or a nun/priest but i think it's a way to focus on one's religious duties and the community they feel called to serve. sorta like not wanting to date or have romantic relationships during an intensive academic year in university so you can focus more on schooling.

[@user-pg5yf4fj8c]

When she had one of the last visions in the movie and saw Lorraine's eyes i had chills

[@arjayaisis4928]

Straight up an anime with valaks on her domain 😂

[@soumilibose2464]

I screamed !! In that scene

[@jachanhe]

Hi there! Valak burns with the wine because according to catholic tradition, during a very specific part of the mass, transubstantiation takes place converting the wine into the “literal” blood of Christ; they very shallowly explain the same in the movie itself 👀👀 But great video, you really take your time to make them and it shows!!!! Kudos!!!❤❤

[@Darklovefly]

I figured since Valek comes back later he was using it as a chance to escape now that he had what he wanted. I was thinking why would he think that would work but your comment makes sense. Maybe a bit of both? Like it hurt him but not enough to stop him so he used it as a chance to end the fight and hide back in Frenchie.

[@projectjupiter5523]

​@@Darkloveflymaybe Valak saw Lorraine through Irene's visions and figured he'd head over to the States to knock out Lorraine then come back for Irene later?

[@s.r6331]

​@@Darkloveflynot even the blood of Christ stopped him. 😅

[@everythingislooped]

​​@@s.r6331it is because valak is also immortal. like the other demons

[@projectjupiter5523]

the josh hutcherson whistle edit 💀 ik this is a horror channel but i was not expecting such a big jumpscare! this video was not only super fascinating but also really funny. you're the best teacher ever, CZ!

[@LeNuggetz]

I noticed that the struggle that Sister Irene faces is Acceptance. It was a theme in the first movie with her acceptance into her faith and taking on her vows to become a Nun, and this film it was the acceptance of her past and what had happened to her mother. There is also the acceptance of revelation that she is of the descendants of Saint Lucy. Accepting her gifts of sight. It was only then that the flames couldn’t touch her. There was also the acceptance that she wouldn’t be the one to take down Valek.

[@addisonvaughan99]

10:24 I spat out my Pepsi, holy shit that was unexpected lol.

[@lilifilmftjisoo5736]

when sister irene was burning and saw lorraine in her visions, i interpreted it as sister irene seeing that she is not the one destined to take down valak, she knows that after her encounter with valak, valak would still be around as it would be Lorraine's job to destroy the demon, hence why she looked at frenchie somewhat disturbed and scared in the last scene.

[@FabulouslyFunny101]

I find it fascinating that I learn more from CZ than I do from my university professor 😂 Another amazing video, thank you!

[@3nim3nimabl3]

You're learning the made up history of a made up character😂

[@danielainger8666]

That says more about you than your university professor.

[@FabulouslyFunny101]

@@danielainger8666 Doesn’t say anything other than sometimes peoples hobbies/interests are going to seem more fascinating to them at times, than the career they’re studying for.

[@Likelyfairy]

i haven't seen a lot of the movies he speaks about lol, he just makes it so interesting

[@LadyyInsanee]

@@Likelyfairyyour beautiful asf

[@eyelinerpunket1]

Calling him Frenchie Valak make me think of Valak taking over Frenchie from the musical grease

[@j-rey-]

Cue mental image of Valak swooning over Frankie Avalon while he sings "Nunnery Dropout."

[@christiandupuis3261]

@@j-rey- Nun-nery Dropouuuutttt... Go take your Vows soooooooon

[@angelvasquez1592]

please do the Horror History Of Sidney Prescott

[@Jizzlebaby311]

He won’t do it unless she dies I think

[@Jizzlebaby311]

Or the sequel ends

[@rodan9773]

That would be brilliant.

[@Damballa_]

They should do the nun Vs Annabelle

[@hunteh78]

He's done it for characters that haven't died before. He just does an updated video later. He is probably waiting for more news on scream 7 so he can know if more Sidney is coming or not ​@Jizzlebaby311

[@gimpinainteasy]

perfect timing. Also, it would be weird calling them a murder of nuns.

[@m_d1905]

More a flock of penguins. 🐧 At least certain sects anyway.

[@LemonTree9280]

I know these movies got so-so reviews but I really enjoy the settings (esp part 2), atmosphere and set designs. I grew up in the late 80s early 90s as an altar boy in a 75 year old catholic church. We had free reign of the place and we loved scary ourselves silly exploring the bell tower and cavernous catacomb-like basement

[@Darklovefly]

Honestly I love both the Insidious and Conjuring universe movies so much. Gets a little confusing when I haven't seen them in a while and I talk about them because the actors but theyre both done so well with so much lore to them. One of my favorite monsters is the Crooked Man. I think they made him look so cool and I'd honestly love to see more of his character. And I want more of Elise, Specs, and Tuck too!! I also would rather both series have a proper ending and don't keep getting dragged out because at some point you can tell when sequels become soulless cash grabs but if they have ideas for the story and can build more lore then I hope they do.

[@Vor567tez]

I am not Christian and from Asia so lot of these Christian and cultural, regional details just go over my head. Hence, your video helps a lot to understand the story. The details are interesting and give more depth to stories. Thank you very much. Can you please make a video on the book Lesser Key of Solomon. It's seems to be great influence in horror pop culture of America. Explaining it's background and the content.

[@Slinky_Loki1967]

He did a horror history of the movie Hereditary, which used a lot of information from the Lesser Key of Soloman, and he reviews some of the information in the book from there.

[@Vor567tez]

@@Slinky_Loki1967 Yeah I saw that but I want a whole separate video on the book only.

[@brantortiz9327]

he doesn't really do videos about other stuff outside of movie lores.

[@christian.sunkudon]

Hi CZ. I think you must see the big easter egg in the credit scene, the part where the Tree of St. Lucy's descendant is shown, there's a glimpse of the bloodline in one of a branch. It says Georgiana Moran first and then Lorraine's name. (It's like a kind of blink-and you missed it). It seems to confirmed that Irene and Lorraine is related by St. Lucy bloodline

[@yourcarsextendedwarranty4453]

Thats really cool!

[@cosminandreimatei756]

This movie really had a few Easter eggs: 1. The corridor from The Warrens house and in the middle of it it was Valak, like what we got in the second Conjuring movie, from Judy's POV 2. The nun painting being animated. So, I guess that with St. Lucia eyes, Valak was capable to see in some sorts in the future, "her" (???) enemy relatives?

[@eliqk3qt2rg5v]

I think its possible that one of the reasons valak targeted and tormented Lorraine years later with visions of Ed Warren's death is because the demon must know or at least thinks theres a relation between irene and lorraine in-universe and thus is another descendant of st lucy

[@Obironnkenobi]

This movie will forever remind me of a friend of mine I watched it with. About 3/4 of the way through the movie he was like "Holy shit. I don't think she's taken her vows guys!" It was like 3 am, and the 5 of us watching had to pause it because 4 of us were dying from laughter for some reason.

[@Yumi-vz1ii]

Loool I want him to be my friend

[@rav3style]

Some contexts: catholic children are baptized shortly after birth. A rosary is not supposed to have symbols beyond the cross and it’s used to pray, each small bead represents a prayer cycle, the big ones are a different prayer, you do this for 5 “decades” it’s a means of meditation. And finally nuns are massive gossips and since they can be sent to different convents it becomes a game of telephone

[@AleXISSof-2884]

Baptism can happen at any stage of life, I was baptized at 2 years old and some people I know got baptized in their pre-teen years

[@rav3style]

@@AleXISSof-2884

[@rav3style]

@@AleXISSof-2884 The Code of Canon Law, the official “rulebook” of the Church, says, “Parents are obliged to take care that infants are baptized in the first few weeks” (No. 867). Un-baptized babies can’t get into heaven.

[@AleXISSof-2884]

@@rav3style I'm going to hell anyways

[@honda-akari]

​@@rav3styleDidn't the bible say that people should choose to be baptised instead of forced by their parents as infants?

[@Horror.Devotee]

I love how I’m never disappointed when I see that you post a new video of horror history

[@capcomfighter13]

NOT you narrating the fight between Sister Irene and Frenchie like its a Football game!! LMAO I CRIED! Why are you like this!????

[@rida-18]

My man CZ giving Josh Hutcherson a run for his money at 10:24 😙

[@brendondabney7746]

Another masterful lesson! Love the channel man!

[@sirodboris]

Sister Irene has to be my favorite character from the conjuring universe!!!

[@DELOMELANICON85]

The amount of work CZ puts in each video is simply amazing.A talented individual for sure.Keep up the good work.Greetings from Greece

[@TPG06]

yo bro I got 30 ads in the first 15 mins

[@xshadow_dem0nx]

Seeing Valak’s name spelt in the background in the magazine scene was so fulfilling for the moment as it was a slow but strong way of expressing that Valak was going to show themself once more

[@greyLeicester]

The Farmiga sisters have hypnotic eyes

[@Siderea]

I love and appreciate the work you put into your videos. Thank you very much for the quality you put out with each upload 😊❤ I'm a new fan!

[@mm277hb]

that reenactment with the beer has to be the best thing ever!!! still laughing!!

[@Fink-id6yg]

Prof, your always so humble. Seems like one of the few people in life id 1000% enjoy hanging out with. Your jokes have always been hilarious too.

[@TheTrueDGDgamer]

I have to say that watching your videos, you seem like someone I would have a conversation with. You give a great vibe of just being a great guy in your videos.

[@tessbrgns2977]

Always impressed with the high quality of the editing! Love your Videos!

[@theofficialqueenofthebling]

This was really good 👍🏽 😊Thank you CZ!

[@Realfreddyfresh]

Best horror channel on KZbin! Keep up the great work

[@BeastFanatic101]

Think you should do an update video for Valak

[@RXXGoldenVictory]

THATS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING

[@Bluemarblecomics]

Agreed please do

[@redhill3248]

He's doing it lol

[@kimatiny._.graphics]

Was having a hard time in school, glad you posted!🤍

[@Artbyhurricanyounot]

I finally figured out why I started getting recommendations for your videos and thought your account name looked familiar! You’re also a coaster enthusiast! I see you in Airtime Thrills and Coaster Studios comments sections often!

[@Gibbypastrami]

Have really loved seeing you come into your own as a content creator over the years my dude ❤

[@justposi]

Always a treat , thanks for your work CZ

[@_Beech]

Learned so much more about the franchise thank you C

[@traintrack3761]

Great video! Could you do a history of Elise from Insidious, pretty please?

[@maninedoow5895]

This was good and you did make some good points about Irene not having to really struggle. But it is good that she knows where she comes from.

[@practicalgamer4991]

oh this video is freshly done

[@rickycoe3058]

CZ…you just don’t miss. Thank You!

[@jorgiganteng7094]

STAHP GETTING ME OFF MY WORK! I CANT FOCUS CZ ❤

[@nerd26373]

We appreciate your insights. Keep working hard as always.

[@solarianvoid-pi9428]

So what I’m hearing is, we need a spin-off about the archival librarian Father Ridley 😂 Also lol @ “Nun 2 pleased” 30:56

[@imperseus24]

And finally the much awaited video from this channel.

[@shishirleyy]

Hey CZ, i just want you to know, i love your videos so much. I watch them everyday so thank you for putting up these videos. ❤

[@sophiepomerleau708]

I don’t watch horror movies ever but I really really like that kind of video ! Nice job

[@playpayola]

Your smiles are so genuine here! :)

[@johnny333X2]

Hell yeah, right as I'm about to clean my car and needed something to listen to. Keep Killin it bro, love your channel. Best in its genre, in my opinion. Much love and respect from Washington State 👊🏼💪🏼💀👹☠️

[@honeydwdwdw]

Thank you so much for this

[@whimsy0451]

Mr. Morris is a tour de force. Spectacular content.

[@PeterGreen700]

Sister Irene Palmer did not exist. She's a fictional character who was created for the franchise and it's confirmed online too.

[@Kynthiax]

didn't realise at 4:03 the seesaw says Valak..

[@scylenced1278]

I came down here to see if anybody had noticed

[@GlenviewNo1]

"Nun too pleased..." Ha ha ha! Another great video Zac! 👍

[@MiniProductionVids]

New CZ let's go!

[@Anistasia5]

The Nun II has one of the most creative moments for me in the magazine rack changing. Great idea, and worked so artistically.

[@emilybaillargeon7205]

Great video!

[@pothead060]

Keep em coming Zac

[@Subzero21572]

Love your content

[@whateveryoutht.alrdythinked]

Do a horror history on any character from the unholy because I haven’t watched the movie and I think it would be really cool if you did one on that

[@aaronarnall1]

Hey Zack love the vids bro I watched this one And it was great much love to you ❤

[@preciousjackson1197]

I don’t like horror movies but I absolutely love your channel

[@tatyanaboyd9373]

great day now that i saw a CZ post.

[@joanalorenzo6949]

Will you ever do anything with AHS. I would love to see a thorough series.of it.

[@kayyrosS1]

Yess omg ! We need this

[@I_AM.JaMarcus]

For real, though!

[@cani5761]

American horror stories?

[@josephr5556]

Loved the Dragonforce reference CZ

[@rodan9773]

Can you do The History of Jason Vorhees please. Respect and keep up the epic work.

[@trisaratops.]

the whistle edit killed me and finally got me to sub lol

[@cat_pb]

the Pub bit made me like your video!! HAHAHA you are hilarious!

[@aly061]

💀 Love your videos keep it up! 🙂

[@chriswaynegetinmoney]

Wow i just watched the nun 2 an hour ago. Dope that you nade this 2 weeks ago! Devine timing i must say!

[@alphamalesunite]

I like the way he has a little more fun in this video

[@witamoulitia5262]

Nice video. I never missed any update of your video. if I could request. can you make horror history about the shining (1980). I bet everyone will like it since it was the iconic horror movies of all the time. Thank you in advance.

[@MD-co4lu]

the light shining thing by the doctor in the scene-- it's one of the things you do in a hospital setting for "neuro checks" -- in this case, checking to see if pupils react to light equally and you do this every 1-4 hours to make sure the patient hasn't had brain injury that progressed

[@sweetznana]

It's funny that I don't watch horror movies unless I watch horror history videos as if preparing myself for the jump scares or air yeets 😂

[@kingemo7806]

I been writing poems and stories on all the conjuring monsters and demons and ghost since I found your channel years ago. Ima have to tag you in the some videos when I get a chance.

[@factorpac]

The whole thing about the nun, like prequels, sequels, spin offs, mentions (connected to the movies) comics, everything about the franchise, please. Thank you for all your work.

[@bellarose2706]

im ngl i snort laughed when the josh hutcherson whistle meme edit showed up

[@Ryo7_7]

Your videos are always awesome and hilarious lol. 👍

[@bryanTheOne00]

Czs never fails to deliver

[@MamaMOB]

9:08 It may not be the origins of saved by the bell but it is the origins of dead ringer!

[@SKIBIDI.TOLIET2014]

finally i’ve been waiting for a nun 2 video

[@Thegenrecrib]

I Have Been Waiting for this for months 😅😊😊

[@Rachael87254]

Titling the last section "Giga Valek" is hilarious!😂

[@The__Q]

cz is that one youtuber whom i watch when I want to feel like i'm in a nice wood cabin in the woods

[@fortuitousliterature]

I've waited for this one🎉

[@johncarlomandia3623]

I love how they keep making movies about Valak just showing how Sister Irene failed not just one but twice or maybe more to eliminate the demon

[@failuretostop]

I'd be "salty" too CZ @ 14:33 lol 🤣

[@micaolson4166]

I absolutely love this video you are hilarious😂

[@twistedfrannie9311]

It is where the term Graveyard shift came from however and why it refers to nightshift.

[@Dc-alpha]

I checked out of the Conjorverse pretty early. They just don't do it for me. I have happily watched the horror histories though, much more compelling. Thankx CZ.

[@wolfsritter8151]

"Don't you have anything better to do than simp?"..... have you seen Taissa Farmiga???

[@AjaAkata]

Vera and Taissa Farmiga have become two of my favorite actresses and scream queens.