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[@hectorg362]

"Don't spend hours trying researching where to learn, just start learning" wish I would've done this.

[@Vivi-vj4zy]

Well why don't you? :D

[@James-kr8xm]

"Motivation comes when you take action" - Marisa Peer.

[@hectorg362]

@@Vivi-vj4zy Idk, tutorial hell lol

[@ozmobozo]

Drink 3 gallons of water Always trust yourself Believe in yourself I can bullshit like this all day 🙄

[@darlinsebastian.3229]

Yes, I agree with you. Usually we spend more time on searching what to learn that learning.

[@tan5366]

"Don't spending hours trying researching where to learn. Just start learning" Thanks, bro. This is the most important message I got today.

[@looweeez2952]

Same!

[@musferadzhymambetov8343]

and now I don't even need to watch the video

[@nicoleluo6692]

SO TRUE！

[@ericdavidheredia]

I did all of freecodecamp and got my first dev job a couple months after finishing it (about 5 months total), no prev exp, no college.

[@ubcroel4022]

Python or java?

[@igee1605]

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[@kasimsuli]

What exactly you learn ? Everything from beginning or just some languages?

[@THEREALCOURTIER]

😮😮😮😮wow!

[@newstation795]

@@kasimsuliit’s focused on html css JavaScript python : full stack web dev / dsa / ml

[@johnnycincocero]

I like that the Odin Project incorporates some of FreeCodeCamp's curriculum. Best of both worlds.

[@realrogers890]

Can you elaborate please? wdm

[@jovenvincentbravo6576]

@@realrogers890 simply they also suggest and redirect you to FCC's curriculum to understand more about the topic.

[@granand]

Hmm All I see Ruby and full stack .. Am I seeing something wrong ?

[@bellabear653]

Also odin has a great community built around it. Free code camp you don't really meet all the other people learning.

[@zoranjuras6777]

@@jovenvincentbravo6576 They who? Who are you talking about?

[@kazumakiryu8185]

In the artist's world, the feeling of being lost before an empty text editor, and not knowing where to start, is called the syndrom of the "blank page". Being a coder is part of that world, as being kind of a creator. Just remember that this process is natural, and you will overcome it. You are all artists

[@cizzlen07]

This is so accurate and inspiring

[@TheGoldgoat]

As a completely beginner I tried both. I tried FCC first and then TOP. I found TOP teaches fundamentals of everything you NEED to know to get started. So I would suggest TOP for a complete beginner

[@hey_avacado]

Same here.

[@soumiarouba2729]

same here i lost a year learn from fcc but i didnt feel like i have a good basic so i start from zero 34year with the odin project

[@ntbarone]

Got love for you brother. Keep on inspiring! This makes me wanna push through the shit to get to my ultimate target. Thanks!

[@TokyoXtreme]

High-energy motivation right here. Wow. You are an amazing presenter, and your audio is crystal clear.

[@luumaven]

Thanks for this video. I like how you mentioned to not get hung up on worrying about certificates because I was kinda driving myself crazy doing that, I now realize that the projects that I create has way more value than a certificate. You gave me a ton of motivation, I appreciate it.

[@ericalessandrini9174]

Dorian, everytime I doubt myself or I feel lost in this new world of programming I look at your videos to find confort and everytime works like a charm! Thank you so much!!

[@landrover827]

Your words offer encouragement as I sit and stare at my blank text editor, trying to make my first Ruby project. Thanks, I needed this.

[@leobardopineda102]

Thanks a lot! I had 5 other tabs open with more videos on how to start learning to code, but you're right, I just closed them all and logged in to start the odin project.

[@SNAKEx197]

I don’t know if you look at these old vids comments. I want to say thank you man, you get straight to the point and give pointers. I’ve started and listened to your “notes” video. I take so many notes. . . I’m going to not take notes this time, and keep trying to improve each day. Thank you :,)

[@kaizen5023]

Good stuff brother. This is the kaizen mindset right here. Always learning and improving!

[@ArielRomeroCortes]

Man, I really like your videos. Love the "no BS" take, it feels refreshing to have someone who talks from experience rather than talk from "what these people might want to hear"

[@dterrell6481]

All the info in the world is useless without taking action with what you have learned. Thanks for breaking this down in a really simple way! 🙏🏽

[@paulraven8236]

OMG didn't know about odin project until watch this video.

[@johnnycincocero]

I like that the Odin Project incorporates some of FreeCodeCamp's curriculum. Best of both worlds.

[@paulraven8236]

If someday I finish FCC lessons for sure I will continue on odin project. next decade maybe hahha lol

[@johnnycincocero]

@@paulraven8236 ha... I know the what you mean. Procrastination and lack of motivation impede progress.

[@tahataufeeq1839]

This man literally guides us as a big brother

[@loiwai487]

I definitely will start with Odin Project... Thanks very much for the heads up.

[@ShafDoesSharjah]

Just started learning coding from zero experience and really needed to hear this.

[@alexmrsh]

I'm an absolute beginner and there isn't a day that I don't feel lost Thank you for the motivation !

[@tubadurantdoda]

This was much needed. Thanks for the video!

[@jsoulcool]

Thank you so much for all of the information and encouragement you've been giving. I am 41 and essentially starting my life over again after quitting my job and moving to a new country. I've always loved games and tech but didn't think I had the mind for code. I have tried a couple of times but it never stuck. But now, I am determined to make things happen and your channel has been a part of that determination.

[@maxim0697]

Its never too late man, god bless you!

[@mrinalb3972]

@@maxim0697 except that-

[@cordialement4383]

Same age. Starting something new too. Good luck bro 😊

[@adaumus]

You're not alone. Hope you're doing well!

[@edwarddavidson7693]

I'm 42 and planning my escape from the construction industry, good to know there's others my age doing this, learning code every free second I've got! 💪

[@Lord_Mau_]

Thanks for the advice. It was right on time. Much appreciated.

[@stockiqinvest9143]

brilliant advice mate, respect to you and your family. One love and give thanks

[@andypower5245]

From all self-taught Coder KZbinrs 😉 You are the most honest and on point. Thumbs up!

[@echopng.8685]

the conclusion part got me, thanks man!

[@AtomLabX]

Thanks 🙏🏾 really appreciate the key points!

[@july9566]

Getting my laptop on Sunday, gonna start asap , just do ! Great stuff .

[@zepe279]

Hey Dorian just discovered ur channel. I was a biology student and took up computer science in grad school. People r just so discouraging when I say I'm not on becoming a doctor or something in medical field. Your videos r very encouraging. Thank you!

[@TheEdge92]

Nice! You gotta put that pressure behind you so it pushes you. As a booster hack you could read Scott Youngs Ultralearning. Check it out it will blow your mind. Your success will blow your critics away. Keep on track!

[@wf645]

That's because those others are afraid of you getting ahead of them ! As an example, AWS has a healthcare and life science division ! This is where your hybrid knowledge will come into play. Put those detractors behind you and power on !

[@Marian-zw2ff]

Thanks for the pep talk. I really need it. Thanks for this

[@sandk75]

Great video, love the motivation and help! I have never heard of the Odin's Project but I will add that to my learning path, cheers man!

[@ruffhouse9760]

super helpful Dorian, earned yourself a new sub!!! thanks for the info!

[@stardust7970]

man love your videos!! thanks for the encouragement!

[@techstack124]

finally got some good advice to work on thanks Dorian appreciated...

[@sommelierdavida]

I'm learning with both! Glad to see this comparison,

[@majamoore6209]

Thanks for sharing this information with us! Not only was it very informative, but also extremely helpful. Great tips on how to focus your training.

[@luyandomuunga2077]

thank you so much i was blank at some point, this information is so helpful.

[@atyt22]

Hey I remember we mentioned this on your recent livestream! FCC def helped me as a complete noob. I'm moving more towards the intermediate stage now. I'm chipping away at TOP's Javascript course (to learn NodeJS & React) while building other JS projects through KZbin.

[@DorianDevelops]

I had started recording this video before that stream so a lot of what I talked about there is in this video. Sounds like you're crushing it. Keep it up! 👊

[@pira9850]

what is TOP's Javascript course?

[@amkren4158]

@@pira9850 the Odin project... TOP

[@Seekingtruth-mx3ur]

Did you get a job yet?

[@alena-mb]

Thank you so much for your video, your words are so inspiring and encouraging!

[@bunkrz3]

Very helpful, informative and encouraging video, thank you!!

[@geekatari4391]

I've burnt out in tutorial hell. I did learn a few things, I did never finish the courses that were more important like Javascript, for some reason I couldn't get into it. I am going to try the freecodecamp approach and check the Odin project. I am a computer geek and I thought I could learn to program to escalate to other realms of computer stuff. I thought "if I can build it, I can program it!" It hasn't been easy, but I want to try again. Thank you for your encouragement.

[@timothygreer2400]

Got an update?

[@geekatari4391]

@@timothygreer2400 Nah, I am still super procrastinating :p

[@copaceticobserver]

@@geekatari4391 Hi there

[@Jason06245]

I did FCC first then I headed into TOP. I think FCC is super helpful when it comes to reinforcing the concepts,. it's similar to before you read a book, the chapters help you to understand what the book is gonna be like. It's the TOP where you write the actual stuff. So I personally think there's no comparison because both are great. Just serve differently.

[@lapatria100]

@@geekatari4391 How about now?

[@santiagocorrales6585]

Thanks you so much for the advisement and the motivation!

[@nothings786]

Your method of explaining is really really good Thanks a lot

[@maple2161]

"Build more, learn less" was beautiful, thank you!

[@channingseymour2204]

Refreshing and great direction. Thanks for sharing this.

[@mightyt946]

Thank you Dorian!! Day 1 for me. Lets get this!!!!

[@kloyster]

Thank you for new perspective on the matter of beginner learning.

[@joelchrono]

I was already quite familiar with git, linux and general development for a while, so I am glad I decided to start with Odin and refine the details I already knew and develop even further

[@himanshneekhra3787]

Very nice and informative video. 💕 I really like your mindset 👍.

[@AbhiAdventure]

Just love the motivation you are giving.

[@gabrielcruvinel9722]

Thank you mister Careca (a little compliment in portuguese). Your words gave me a clear path to follow. You are the man!

[@davidnelson4960]

Love the honesty. Don't have clue about this field, but the guy seems to be spitting honestly so he gets my subscription.

[@arvinheleraentertainment4601]

Thank you for the information about the product!

[@peteglews6601]

This was helpful... thank you, liked and subscribed 😁

[@rickypartridge230]

Just the video I needed cheers mate

[@sciuresci1403]

As a senior engineering student trying to make a career shift, I found most tutorials a bit too slow. Which is completely fine because most people don't go through STEM education. I love how the odin project is more demanding and in return more rewarding. So my advice to people who learn fast is to not listen to people telling them they need to spend weeks on subjects they find simple. There's always more to learn in tech.

[@atlasatlantis8447]

ill be speed running free code camp, than jumping to odin. Than ill do the Harvard python course as the icing on the cake.

[@youness8288]

I learn so fast the problem is that i should find a way to remember thing easy

[@overPowerPenguin]

​@@youness8288You don't remember because you don't practice by doing above what you consider current level project from start to finish. Looking at code syntaxes and documentation is completely fine, as a normal human can't remember that much information. After few months you will forget things you didn't used at least weekly, but you will find them easier to understand and use when you re-learn them, some of them by just a fast looking at documentation.

[@phantomthoughts6421]

These videos man help a lot, its very Niche but yeah glad to hear not alone in a lot of these feelings when aspiring to be self taught

[@rimantasdanilevicius6754]

Never heard about The Odin Project. Thanks for sharing, good content!

[@SherriAI]

w3schools is also great for learning. it is not quite project based but it is a vast source of infortmation. i understood JavaScript much better through w3 vs fcc

[@CARTUNE.]

This was gold. Thanks brother.

[@caesarcastro9583]

Thanks a lot. Liked and suscribed!

[@Damo_LowEnd_or_NoEnd]

Your the best on KZbin right now💪🏾😎

[@claudioillanes5487]

Gracias Dorian por tus consejos, actualmente estoy haciendo cursos en Udemy y el plan de estudios de FreeCodeCamp, me interesa mas adelante ver el proyecto Odin.

[@klc101790]

Thank you! I started with Odin without any technical background. I think I’ll take your advice instead. Odin is too advanced for my totally beginners level, but I am willing to go back to Odin.

[@alanmurphy4754]

Any updates bro

[@nalendratroyard9950]

how's goin bro?

[@MrJustCallMeJames]

How far have you gotten bro?

[@omobolajiadex7447]

how's it going bro

[@RobertSpiller]

@@alanmurphy4754 It appears that he's mia. I just started with Udemy, next it's Python very everybody....lastly CS50...harvard's highly regarded python program and they also offer computer science.

[@paulvickers8059]

working through the course or projects with a partner I think would be useful, as later in interviews they ask that kind of stuff, if you have worked in a team to solves problems. If you have for some complexish projects, I think this can be a plus

[@daromacs]

Really nice video, thanks for sharing.

[@TennisComplete]

Hi Dorian, I subscribed and liked your videos lol thanks for doing this channel! You really inspire me and motivate me to keep pushing forward. Looking forward to seeing your channel grow and hope I can keep learning and get better at coding. I listen to your videos when I drive to work and go on my runs lol Thanks for all the tips! -Sam

[@DorianDevelops]

Thanks for subbing, hearing you say that made my night! I'm so happy that I can motivate you like that, it's really means a lot to me to hear someone say that. That motivates me to keep making these videos! Good luck on your journey, wishing you the best!

[@TennisComplete]

@@DorianDevelops absolutely! I’m doing both Freecodecamp and Orin project and a little Treehouse right now. Yes looking forward to more videos! Thank you!!

[@DorianDevelops]

@@TennisComplete Sounds like a solid plan! Those are all really good resources!

[@avagsargsyan404]

Thanks a lot for a really good advice !

[@netskater4454]

FCC is better to start for sure. Simply for the fact of how it creates a positive feedback loop. A lot of simple tasks are broken down into small chunks, which as you complete the task you feel rewarded little by little. Creating less resistance to learning code, and adds confidence to the user. The Odin Project although it simulates the real world developing much better than FCC, is filled with a lot of negative feedback loops that can discourage the user from continuing. Just setting up Linux and an environment to program already made me feel as though I was too inadequate to start the journey. I find myself always diving too deep into a certain subject due to all the suggested links and the end result I get too distracted from actually coding.

[@ShadaeMastersAstrology]

Thanks for sharing your insights.

[@amerikanpoliskamerasvideol6170]

virtual machine decided to not open up after i install linux i wish odinproject has option to contiune without linux

[@Jason06245]

bruh I don't even understand who do people find installing Ubuntu and an environment is difficult. It really isn't, and y'all making this seems difficult. Just create a section on your disk, install a ubuntu there and it's done. The environment is just installing vs code. Enlighten me what's so difficult about it please.

[@Jason06245]

@@amerikanpoliskamerasvideol6170 sure you can continue TOP without a Linux but in real life most of the jobs out there would literally require you to be familiar with Linux. TOP prepares you from the start. If something's wrong with virtualbox just google the error, and that's the most important skill of a programmer.

[@chadhardt6136]

@@Jason06245 if you are just ¨testing the water¨ to see if coding is your thing, wasting a few days to install a OS that you dont give a fuck about JUST to start the learning, its kinda a pain in the ass, and just because you know how to do it, it doesn't mean that everyone else does...

[@manuela.amafia]

Do you recommend to take all the courses in codecamp in order? I want to learn cyber security and selected "information security", but it looks like you have to start with the "responisve web design". I just started and dont know anything yet, so I would like advice on this. Thanks

[@jshackelford31]

Thanks for this video I would of never heard of the Odin Project. Going to do both. Another free resource for learning App Academy Open its Ruby based. Thanks again.

[@darren537]

Is it called academy open? Is it IOS only

[@andrelawrence3683]

This is the motivation I need.

[@CarlosGonzalez-ew1oz]

Hey Dorian! I've been binge watching all of your videos and I can't thank you enough for what you're doing. I wanted to ask you if you think I should learn web development first if my ultimate goal is to work in Machine Learning/Deep learning. I have a strong math background but I do not have a degree so I'm guessing it might not be possible to land my first software job in data science. With that said do you think it would serve me better to get a job in traditional web development and use that to propel a career in Data science? I am more passionate about ML/DL but certainly enjoy the little web development that I've learned so although it would be a longer path to data science I am willing to go that route. I just wanted your opinion if you think its worth focusing solely on data science, or focus on that after I get software engineering experience under my belt. Thank you for all the information you put out for us, it's appreciated!

[@DorianDevelops]

Absolutely not do not learn web development just to get a job! You will get stuck and eventually be miserable at a job you hate wishing that you followed ML/DL, and you'll probably burn out in the long run. Even if it takes you longer to get a job just focus on what you want to do, it will make learning a lot easier for you if you really enjoy it. Also college degrees are slowing becoming less and less of a thing in software development, I have a video where I talk about not needing a degree to get a job as a developer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4DHnql9bd50Y7M In that video I quoted Elon Musk where he said exactly this: "A PhD is definitely not required. All that matters is a deep understanding of AI & ability to implement NNs in a way that is actually useful (latter point is what’s truly hard). Don’t care if you even graduated high school." link to that tweet: twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1224089444963311616

[@tutorialheller5800]

@@DorianDevelops thanks bro, this person in the comment it's like me. I'm doing the FSO bootcamp while I'm learning Numpy but my goal is to be a data scientist mmm the university is ok, I've learned a lot of math because of it since I was 16. My university in Peru is the Latam hardest to enter But I'm gonna take your advice cuz your advices are the best on youtube I think, but I prefer to work only 3 months on a web dev job to another no IT job

[@lillithsleeps]

As a newbie using free code camp and the Odin Project I agree completely with this.

[@bavidlynx3409]

I was unsure about js and was doing development using django. But day before yesterday i jumped the gun and started odin project and i will complete it.

[@rebeccafleek864]

This video came at the perfect time in my journey!

[@NathanHedglin]

Great video. Learn then build your own stuff. You can't learn until you build something yourself from scratch. Certifications help in interviews as it shows initiative. I wouldn't drool over them though lol.

[@rafafilipek1560]

Thank you, perfect video that's what I need

[@michaelrascon3844]

You give me hope ! Thank you

[@Stevengdev]

Awesome review! Thanks!

[@jeandamasceneuwingeneye8822]

Nice video. Very insightful

[@stockiqinvest9143]

Can you make a Quick Video on how to take notes while you studying coding? How did you take notes while studying coding? Thanks.

[@javielucho06]

Great, video. Thanks a lot, dude.

[@TopGamesEntertainment]

I love the vid , you got a new sub thx man

[@pietrolopesdev4366]

I started trying to learn how to code by myself last week. And yesterday - when I finally (think) that I've finished writing down my personal study roadmap - I realized I had absolutelly no idea what I was doing now that I know that there are a lot of other things like github, relational and no relational databases, logic, algorythms, frameworks, librarys., etc. Hahaha. This video really made me a lot less anxious! Because "setting up my whole environment" is exactly what I've been doing for the past week, and until now I didn't really know if that was one of the good strategies to start coding. Learning the actual languages are just a small part of all the required knowlodge, right? I guess now I know enough to start the right way. Maybe I'me more of an Odin tipe of person =P

[@LAZYxDISASTER]

Hi. How is your journey going? Have you made much progress? I started learning from yt video’s not so long ago. Didn’t really know about the whole setting up until now :)

[@knw-seeker6836]

Thanks a lot man i did not know Odin Project

[@nue111]

Thanks so much! Your video helps me a lot and gives me motivation. I've learnt freecodecamp for weeks. I'd like to know how can i create website with HTML, thanks.

[@rockin4jesus8]

Back in 2010 I took a class on web and graphic design. Part of the course was manual coding. Would this type of coding be applicable to the coding you are talking about here and in other videos?

[@kevinparker2314]

Great advice i love it thanks 👍

[@annabelleellis8098]

Yes I agree with his advise. It's true I've tried both.

[@oscaralejandropazbalderas4288]

Great video...thank you so mucho for your advices...!!!

[@6ixsvp]

Thank you for the advice

[@Nullpointer404]

Thank you so much for this kind of video. That's what I needed

[@DorianDevelops]

Glad it was helpful!

[@nathanmoore9690]

Thank you for the good advice.

[@GNUzzi]

Great video, Johnny Sins. Thanks.

[@Jason06245]

I did FCC first then I headed into TOP. I think FCC is super helpful when it comes to reinforcing the concepts,. it's similar to before you read a book, the chapters help you to understand what the book is gonna be like. It's the TOP where you write the actual stuff. So I personally think there's no comparison because both are great. Just serve differently.

[@jarrellidk]

Honestly if you finished all of FCC then just moved to Odin project you wasted your time. You could have just built projects, looked up what you different remember, and got a job. What you did is how people get stuck in tutorial hell.

[@SumanthLazarus]

Start with fCC (beginner friendly), then introduce TOP into your learning plan. Note, you don't have to do them one after the other, slice & dice and build conceptual + practical expertise. Also, I highly use Anki flashcards to recall & help retain all atomic facts I learn along the way.

[@superscience4817]

@@SumanthLazarus what is Anki Flashcards?

[@Antody]

@@SumanthLazarus I was actually thinking about using Anki for learning how to code, similar how it's used in langage learning. Spaced repetition systems are quite helpful in this regard.

[@georgiostatakis7887]

Foundation Course of Odin Project Helped me a lot, teached me github and also freecodecamp.

[@Dj.Stevilgenius]

Thank you. Great vid.