The Office - plot holes & inconsistencies

[@florentiue]

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[@capti_edits951]

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[@benholland9386]

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[@jollyvenom5134]

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[@NosferatuFromtheLates]

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[@liranmarco8177]

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[@humpythehippo1240]

I drew the conclusion that the characters started to speak out more and appear to change a lot because they are becoming more comfortable with being filmed for a documentary

[@62atbest40]

Agreed. Being filmed like that would be hella awkward at first

[@yisussb]

I hadnt thought about that and its basically the most logical explanation to the obvious fladerization

[@_mchrll]

And in the last episode, Meredith and Oscar talks about specific details about themselves which the film crew completely nerfs (e.g. origami)

[@jameshinton4794]

Ye its just character arches

[@imdumbbut8915]

@@theodorelasso7466 it's a mockumentary

[@maddieh7927]

Honestly, Michael probably had no idea Meredith wasn’t an accountant.

[@errorwater922]

that's something Michael would forget or not care about

[@mortyexplains]

He had no idea Toby has been rehired for weeks too 😂

[@chloediscipio6714]

Maddie Hassell Jim also called her an accountant

[@mortyexplains]

Yeah on her birthday card right? Glad the writers changed her job though, she made no sense as an accountant and supplier relations led into some of her more scandalous storylines

[@dylanschofield8067]

Jim wrote this joke, not Michael

[@gyz9599]

kevin not wanting to wash his hands but wanting others to do it is the MOST KEVIN thing ever lmao

[@anaflaviarg]

its kinda sounds like he just learned why he has to wash his hands

[@ferrari158]

Lmao and remember that episode when he said “ I have no patience for stupidity “ how ironic

[@jacksonhenry5588]

Its stupid how he included this because he cant criticize them for being inconsistent when it was a deleted scene

[@jamo9008]

Ana Gambale yeah. This.

[@JamesDoesItAll]

@@jacksonhenry5588 a lot of the "inconsistencies" on this list are just character development or things that pertain to real life. Kevin is a little bit anti-social and weird. I like to think that when someone else told him to wash his hands in earlier episodes, it became apparent to him that that is something that he should do, so he tells others to do it. So rather than being an "inconsistency" it becomes "consistent" with his character development.

[@PorkShark]

"Apparently there are rules for drinking in the office" *There's like 50 rules in a normal office that Michael breaks in just the first season.*

[@fredericchopin5993]

its just weird that nobody mentions it

[@haileymarie5649]

I believe the "plot holes" about Kelly's and Oscars character development are just them being more minor characters in the pilot season then growing more in later seasons.

[@justinblakeney3466]

Oscar acting less gentle over time definitely makes sense. These people have put him through a lot.

[@TheNiceCreamMan]

He prefaced all the character development with a screen that said “character development”

[@hannahyucha503]

Hailey Marie oh I thought of it as them getting more comfortable with the camera crew being there

[@ChrisCypher]

I think it's more that the writers changed over time and what started as a semi-realistic show about awkward office cultural got super wacky over time to where most of the characters originally written as "normal people" became caricatures. But yeah, some characters' "evolution" seemed more natural than others.

[@mattslupek7988]

Also, bear in mind that Season 1 was basically a carbon copy of the British version. British humor is more dark and American humor is more lighthearted, so when they made the show a little different and made it their own. First season, Michael was a d*ck, but Season 2, he was more of a likable idiot. Pam gained confidence after the art exhibition when Oscar and Gil were talking about her artwork. Lots of stuff like that.

[@burify]

they actually made michael scott’s hair like that in season 1 to make him unlikeable but later changed it since the show stars him

[@idkmanwhyigottaputmyname1804]

burify I think they made his hair like that to better match the boss' hair from The Office UK, but then the US version took off and they then did whatever they wanted with the show basically

[@mattseifert]

Idk man Why I gotta put my name? For sure. If you listen to Jenna Fischer and Angela kinsleys podcast they talk about how Ricky gervais actually was the one who told them to change Michael because Americans wouldn’t relate to a boss like the UK one.

[@siddhant...]

@John Barber actually between season 1 and 2 there's no such thing as transplant. I have light hair so I know that when you gel up the hair, and style them pulled backwards it will maximize the balding look, on the contrary dried up side parted rested hair would be the opposite. So it's just that, but definitely Steve carell still has hair, so he definitely underwent some procedure in last decade.

[@brandonmcqueen9565]

burify Facts.

[@gypsytricia]

I assumed that when the show was re-upped for the second season, they made Steve get hair plugs.

[@justinblakeney3466]

I like to think Andy's real parents wouldn't show up so he hired impostors on Craigslist.

[@Kallah_DaughterOfYAHUAH]

Justin Blakeney knowing andy’s character this makes SOOO much sense. especially since it was early on. they only showed up after he become the boss

[@iane7474]

You know they had to do it to em

[@michaelramsey1299]

It even explains the name change he resents having his name changed from the one he shared with his dad so when he hires imposters he changes his Dads name to match his.

[@elyselandry5454]

Justin Blakeney that’s exactly what happened

[@anormous6903]

nice job stealing this comment... A Random Person 4 months ago Maybe Andy invited different people because his parents didn't want to. by A random person (that is there KZbin name btw)

[@brandonsmith9512]

If you continue the scene where Michael talks about college parties, he goes on to describe his fantastically delusional ideas of what college parties are like (inviting the professors, etc.). I think that was just another way of him trying to pretend he went to college, and very clearly not a plot hole. It's very fitting for Michael to pretend he went to college (consider that time Darryl rhetorically asks him what college he went to) and this is another instance of that.

[@popperpoppler4569]

Yeah I think it was pretty obvious that the few instances of Michael talking about going to college are either him trying to fit in unsuccessfully or meant to be clunky segues into what he actually wants to talk about, like the scene where he says the things he misses most are the parties but really he’s just trying to get Jim to invite him to the party he knows he’s already having.

[@vide0radio]

Same thing with Angela saying she's a "professional woman"- it's written as hypocrisy because she ACTS like she is, while she's sleeping with employees and really just a conniving person

[@JasonThomasLionHeart]

i am pretty sure he just got like an associates from a community college but never had the "college experience" that he fantasizes about

[@brandonsmith9512]

@@JasonThomasLionHeart why are you pretty sure about that?

[@Will_Rules]

​@@brandonsmith9512Wouldnt you need a college degree to work at a place like dunder mifflin and be considered to be manager

[@Matt-sk6hi]

Most of these just seam to assume that the characters are being honest all the time. Everyone lies to everyone in an office setting, it's just how much of human relations work.

[@phillyhippie]

I hate that we missed Michael's wedding him becoming a father 😭 so many missed opportunities

[@HalfNHalf.]

phillyhippie right?!?!! Like he just moved with holly and then no sight of him until dwights wedding. Huge missed opportunities

[@Dio_Csom]

Thats what she said?

[@hollyjoy2150]

They definitely should have had a wedding on the show for him

[@San4311]

@@hollyjoy2150 I mean, Michael leaving the office wasn't part of the plot. Steve left because they didn't offer him an extended contract, so Michael left. They just fit in the story that he married Holly and got kids etc. Him appearing in the finale was more luck than anything, because at the time he wasn't shooting anything else.

[@lexsunsh1ne]

@@San4311 such a shame it was a short appearance too tho

[@nmisa]

The cleaning lady people vs the Russian workers change came after Dwight bought the building

[@dashman8499]

Noah Suptho Dwight doesn’t own the building at that time

[@ghostopss111]

@@dashman8499 still not impossible for the cleaning staff to change so thats deffo not an inconsistency

[@Ryan-wx8of]

@@ghostopss111 Also that music didn't sound Russian

[@seanpariser7300]

@@Ryan-wx8of Plus, though it would be a weird explanation, both crews were different shifts. It's possible one crew is filled with people that speak Spanish and the other was filled with Russians. One seemed not long after they closed. So around 6:00 or 7:00. The other was late at night or even after midnight.

[@TheNoiseySpectator]

Yes, there is nothing unusual about Changing cleaning contractors. And, Russians listen to all different kinds of music.

[@tahaghassemi2381]

There is a big difference between taking a different job in the same city (same building, as it turned out) when you are engaged with no kids and taking a job in a different city when you are married with 2 young kids.

[@calmdandy3964]

right that pissed me off

[@Fetidaf]

There is… but she also left to go to New York and he was very supportive of her following her dream, even if it probably wasn’t going to work out. Yet she wasn’t able to do the same. I’m not one of those “omg, Pam is the worst person imaginable” types but there is some hypocrisy there. And she wasn’t exactly shown in the best light in later seasons.

[@andylmp]

⁠@@Fetidafdid you not read a single thing from the original comment? The difference is that they had kids when Jim went off to take the risk

[@Fetidaf]

@@andylmp I’ve watched the show many times and yes, I read the original comment. I realize they had kids at the time, I don’t think there’s as much of a difference as people would like to think. If the roles were reversed I have no doubt that Jim would want Pam to pursue her dream, even if it made his life a bit harder.

[@KansasCityKitty420]

​@@FetidafJim would have been just as upset if Pam did it in the same way as Jim did, by not asking before deciding such a big thing.

[@joelsampson67]

Someone should make a mix of all the times Jim told a customer, "Can I call you right back?"

[@mattslupek7988]

Or hung up Pam’s phone when she was talking to a customer to show her something.

[@hannah_mck3810]

yesss i was thinking about how much he did that yesterday

[@sjrussell91]

‘Hold on one second...’

[@SherriffJ.Anderson]

Yes!!!!

[@tortibian2630]

I found it after searching around kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYC5q5aEq9dlfKs

[@ericaboisvert]

I'm pretty sure Meredith WAS an accountant but the "supplier relations" thing came from the fact that she was in fact having relations with the suppliers for better deals and gift cards.

[@dequanthompson7093]

Good Catch !

[@gabeputthoff2236]

She used to be an accountant

[@blairc.620]

That sounds right

[@marioskbar]

And anybody that's ever had a job before knows that people often apply internally for different positions, or are promoted within the company. So her having a different job from one season to the next is pretty common. But I guess if you've never worked before you can't possibly understand how somebody could work in accounting one day, and supplier relations the next.

[@wboro9844]

Toby loses weight. Woah... what were they thinking

[@thekanyast3564]

Michael Scott’s hair was slicked back in the first season to pay tribute to David Brent of the Office UK. Just like how the Pilot episode is almost word for word exactly the same as the Pilot of the Office UK, and how Michael also did not wear a suit coat just like David Brent.

[@steveverdugo8106]

It was also to make Michael less likeable

[@JakeYolk]

I don’t really think so. A tribute in the first season? I’m pretty sure that was just the hairstyle back then.

[@thekanyast3564]

Yolky well, the first episode is exactly the same as the UK first episode, almost word for word, so I think they also wanted Michael to look like David Brent with the slicked back hair and no suit coat. So they just kept it the rest of the season

[@plumbussmith]

Steve Carell got hair plugs when he started making that office money.

[@cheesecake134]

It was also styled that way to really make him look like he was going bald. They later realized Michael read as more sad/pathetic than they intended, so he became more conventionally handsome by the second season.

[@dibassarkar2898]

The greatest plothole was the "State" senator had a son when he met Angela the first time in that haystack fair and then the son disappears in the later episodes

[@alex-8736]

Pam does mention his son when they discover he's gay tho

[@Real...MADRID-o4q]

​@@alex-8736That's the Senators and Angela's son she mentioned. Either way it could've been the Senators nephew in the haystack

[@gagpentingnjing3196]

I think he mentioned that her wife passed away in that episode explaining the kid and i think that they never brought up this fact again

[@nordmark16]

8:20 Maybe within 4 years, a change of ownership in the building, and a change of ownership of the company they got a new cleaning crew at some point

[@lebrown5075]

The cleaning crew where I work changes like every couple months for some reason

[@sadia64210]

Adam Nordmark same explanation for the alcohol policy

[@rivetgg6882]

Adam Nordmark true

[@eddiebarrett4633]

Is that actually Dwight's house?

[@spockskynet]

@@sadia64210 I assumed that was just everyone ignoring Toby since they got away with it that first time.

[@macys.parade5846]

I don’t think this guy’s ever heard of character development But there are a lot of surprising points otherwise!

[@Travelbug71]

John Krasinski has explained a lot of this. They got to know their characters and developed them accordingly.

[@bobbobbins4877]

Character progression can be good or bad. It has to be believable. In The Office some characters basically evolve into caricatures of themselves. That's not good writing, that's something that happens when a show has jumped the shark.

[@Flowerz__]

@@bobbobbins4877 well this happens in a lot of shows. Look at the sopranos season 1. But also always sunny kind of parodies this as well as the characters in that show just become more and more ridiculous as the show goes on.

[@Flowerz__]

@@Travelbug71 yeah, it still creates plot holes tho, like explained in the video

[@lukelogs6570]

Honestly a lot of these aren’t even real plothiles

[@girlitsbrooke]

no one talks about how Andy’s good character went shit

[@flannelpillowcase6475]

actually i just watched a video recently where everyone did nothing but complain about how Andy's good character went to shit, both in the video and in the comments.

[@Alice-zy6gj]

I completely disagree it went the other way around

[@amberdeegan1253]

The writers were mad at Ed Helms for filming another show and missing filming the office so they added some bad character changes. You can tell throughout the ninth season they realized they made a mistake and changed his character back to the Andy Bernard we knew. We all go through personality changes in life and this was a wave of Andy’s changes. All of the characters changed. Something that is rarely brought up is how it was scripted for Jim to cheat on Pam and then put into deleted scenes. Edit: Thanks so much for the likes 🙂

[@aerialviper5891]

Alice Wright no, just no

[@Alice-zy6gj]

Savage Sea Monkey yes, just yes At first he was annoying and self obsessed now he is likable and slightly competent

[@cwatt05]

0:27 she never said she was bad or never played

[@rachelle_banks]

Exactly

[@llamabobama]

Yes!! I know a number of people that were good at a certain sport but would make excuses to get out of it for whatever reason. Normal high schooler thing

[@yourname7254]

Was intrigued about this video and the first "inconsistency" was a faulty one lmao

[@Jack_Purc]

Can we just agree that plot holes don’t matter in this show

[@sammayor937]

Smitten Duck it doesn’t but it’s fun to find them

[@tattoochef425]

It doesn’t matter on any show really. The reality is almost all shows start out different than they end up, and while consistency would be nice, it’s almost impossible considering how many exposures they have to write. In the end, it’s all about making 20 episodes a season being funny, and consistency gets thrown out the window.

[@abuubaidah1174]

Ikr, it's a comedy ffs

[@CocoTaveras8975]

Sam Mayor YES! I totally agree with that! 👍👍

[@jsngallery]

yes we can, but id still like to know the holes so i dont fall in

[@plamoretti673]

I thought Toby’s brother was just Toby with CGI’d features

[@thisiscavehood]

B O same lol

[@7ratsinasoup317]

Same

[@Anna-hk1xw]

The actor was also married to Angela for 10 years.

[@lucyadams630]

Anna you just blew my mind

[@Andoryuuu]

The fact Erin's name was also Kelly, but her name just gets changed to Erin, and everyone (including her parents, adoptive or otherwise) call her Erin. Her brother calls her Erin, everyone calls her Erin.

[@kayem8418]

nah, erin was clearly her preferred name forever. when she overheard that the boss was calling her and kelly by their last names, it was her opportunity to be called her preferred middle name by everyone rather than her legal first name happens to me everytime I get a new job

[@Andoryuuu]

@@kayem8418 while I understand what you're saying, my point is that the writers, her brother, AND her birth mother (who wouldn't have known this preference, as, the first time she ever meets her is at the end) all call her Erin, because the writers forgot the whole Kelly joke as soon as they made it.

[@lexide7854]

@@Andoryuuu her birth parents gave her up as a baby, chances are they weren’t the ones who named her. When you think about it, if her birth parents actually did name her, than she would’ve been able to find them a lot sooner by last name. They call her Erin at the end because they found her through the documentary, and for 95% of it, she’s known as Erin. Also, Reed is her foster brother, so he would know her as the name she prefers.

[@bbstudios5008]

Right before Dwight shot the gun near Andy, Andy said guns made him uncomfortable, yet he and Dwight went on a hunting trip in an earlier episode

[@jgeorge4919]

Well I’m one of those weird “goes by middle name” people. However when asked like at school or work what my name is I’ll say my real name, later asking to be called by my middle. So, I would have said my name is Kelly, then asked to be called Erin if I could and then all of my friends and family would call me Erin. If you go by your middle name, it’s a hot mess and you’ll answer to anything.

[@JLG629]

Honestly Daryl’s change makes sense. He went from a confident, no nonsense warehouse worker to goofy and comedic, not unlike many working in the office.

[@ColtyWolty68]

he turned into an upstairs person lol

[@Will_Rules]

​@@ColtyWolty68He was an honorary office worker

[@johnb2127]

@@Will_Rules he had his own fucking office for the last 3 or 4 seasons. Hardly fucking honorary.

[@carter9693]

kelly's change is me when i first meet someone and me when ive known them forever.

[@mortyexplains]

🤣🤣🤣 this is amazing

[@sadia64210]

chadnisha Can we talk about how they only call her Erin even though her real name is kelly bc there’s another kelly in the office. But then everyone keeps calling her erin even though they dont work at the office (example her foster brother) or kelly kapoor doesnt work there anymore probably bc the writers forgot their own writing

[@elianayvonne7386]

Sadia Choudhury EXACTLY!!? I’ve been thinking this for so long

[@mortyexplains]

@@sadia64210 brilliant, Sadia, missed that one but will include it for round 2 !

[@sierrafitzgerald8671]

@@sadia64210 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 LMAO yesssssss!!!!! I always forget her name isn't even Erin!!!! Like bitch she does not look like a Kelly 🤣🤣🤣

[@ishanidutta]

This actually shows how Ryan made Kelly's life go down the drains and brought out the worst in her. It's a real character development and not a plot hole or inconsistency as such.

[@ShaunHensley]

‘Made her’

[@tagaway6173]

Watch the show again.

[@pikapi7429]

I hated the way they turned Ryan's personality so much

[@nintendohub64]

Kelly was crazy and the actor is irl cough* cough* Velma

[@yusukeelric]

Not really, acording to how the series evolved. Kelly was always like that. It0s just that her character wasn't yet stablished in season 1

[@smruthigarlapati680]

Also did y’all notice how Jim’s office just appears when he becomes co manager?

[@Thebsiciehebrbfifhrnwlduhdnrk]

Smruthi Garlapati ikr

[@austingilman4100]

yesssssss. i was so confused ab that

[@Zachula619]

Crazy how building things works

[@tslamp]

they mention they built one and even if they didnt it really isnt that hard to build an office like that one

[@kavalogue]

If a company assumed a new co manager. And they took their job seriously in real life, you know kinda how jimmdoes his job, then a new office would be erected practically over night for them.

[@sambillings2254]

You didn't mention the worst one(the only one that actually made me confused on how they missed it). In Season 8 Dwight had an emergency appendix removal during their 3-week trip to Tallahassee, directly after surgery Dwight leaves the hospital and is seen at Sabre showing off his wound. The very next episode in Jim's hotel room we see Dwight take his shirt completely off and there is no wound or scar or anything to signify that he just had surgery the day or two prior. And then the next episode Dwight mentions his post-OP appointment while saying he will cancel that appointment in order to stay and work to get the VP job.

[@mortyexplains]

That's a great one that I missed !

[@jaykobanstaett1183]

Or it could be the episodes are not all broadcasted in filming order.

[@ayy_lmao]

Character development = plot hole? 🤔🤔🤔

[@mortyexplains]

Maybe an... inconsistency?

[@AyushArvind]

@@mortyexplains nope

[@norawestol8247]

angela wasn’t a wreck bc the senator her cats were taken

[@itscodyman2075]

that & depression is also a real thing lol, people go manic like that I've seen it before

[@samanthachevez1693]

Didnt she also have to take care of her kid?

[@thefisherman6627]

she basically lost everything at that point so there’s multiple reasons really

[@danehugh9580]

She was a wreck when she still had her cats in the apartment.

[@danehugh9580]

@Strawberrymilk nope your wrong the scene where she's at the apartment all her cats are everywhere even in the play pen with philup, she's already a wreck. Then cats get taking away then she loses apartment all to get her. Her gradual decline was important to make her the likable Angela that everyone loved at the end.

[@atcdude067]

College for Michael Scott - it's obviously the character lying to fit in when he says he went... I never got the impression he actually went to college...

[@c.harlotte]

atcdude067 yeah same

[@TDPlayz]

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@ballaking1000]

There's a scene where Scott said "That kids not going to college" or along the lines of that and Darryl replied "Hey uh what college did you go to Michael?" sarcastically and there was an awkward silence before they went off.. Sorry I'm foggy on the scene and what se/ep it was but I'm sure those who watched know what scene I'm referring to. Sooo anyway yeah something isn't adding up lol

[@DCT-tt8ib]

Not only that, but in "The Fire" Michael talks about how we worked up the business chain, starting out as a lowly, minimum wage waiter at a restaurant, heavily implying he never attended college the whole time. Also, in another episode (I forgot which one), Michael talks about how he lost all of his tuition money in an elaborate pyramid scheme.

[@gemstealers8282]

yeah he just lied. the video maker doesnt know what hes talking abt

[@Paginaaa]

I think the whole Angela being close with her sister again thing was meant to show how much she’d grown as a person and how much happier she was not that she was with Dwight, that it encouraged her to reach out to her sister and rekindle their relationship- but idrk

[@irkenjim]

Erin gave andy the computer because she liked him

[@Landon-z1r]

The hardwood floor one was because they were high off caffeine

[@cigcastro1156]

Also he says "I always knew it was here, I just never thought I'd actually get to see it."

[@jenm1]

He’s seen it before tho

[@TinnieTa21]

You can watch over 240 movies and never watch Pretty Woman. I am also one of those people. But, I am nothing like Dwight lol. Or am I?

[@shawnd9714]

TinnieTa21 I’ve never watched Pretty Women either

[@Seurnn]

tut tut tut.

[@bipolarewok]

There are more than 240 movies better than pretty woman, and you can live your whole life without watching it. I've seen it a lot because I was born in the 80s and I had like 50 movies in vhs growing up. Some I watched once a month, like star wars or back to the future, others never, like fried green tomatoes, and others once in a while, like pretty woman or four weddings and a funeral. Unlike the latter, which I learn to love more as an adult than ever before, I haven't seen pretty woman since then. It's a nice little story about prostitutes being people too and that's about it. If you like julia roberts but hate whores this is a good movie for you to learn not to be such as douchebag to them, cause they're just like you, and me, and julia. But if you are a normal person who already knows that you can't treat prostitutes like shit, whether they look like julia roberts or not, then you don't need to watch this movie. At this point in 2019 the only reason to watch this movie is just to avoid somebody saying "You never seen pretty woman?!", and then having to listen to that person talk about it like you've been wasting your entire life. But no. I'm pretty sure there were even 240 movies better than that one in 1990 alone.

[@victorymansions]

I just imagine you looked at the camera like Dwight when you said 'or am I' 😂

[@sabsays4091]

This is how I feel about having not watched the movie “Mean Girls”, “Pulp Fiction”, “Breakfast Club” and some other claimed movie classics Now watch this comment thread turn on me in 3 . . . 2 . . .

[@jmcmahoney]

Kelly's change was because the crew allowed Mindy Kaling to take over the character writing for her. That was Mindy's plan for Kelly at the beginning, but she was just a supporting cast at the time!

[@jkjr5395]

When you first meet the state senator, he has a son, and then he disappears?

[@derekbos4404]

I have wondered about that one. Also what was a state senator doing at Hay Place?

[@samjohnson4766]

@@derekbos4404 also why did a state senator just abandon his wife and kid to live in a tiny apartment or tent. he thought that lil phil was his right?

[@farneti9604]

@@samjohnson4766 he didn't bc he actually had no sex with Angela, at least that's what I first thought

[@z-axis4508]

No he did have sex with angela, probably reluctantly

[@mattslupek7988]

What I always wondered is if Angela was married to the state senator, why was she in Scranton and not Harrisburg?

[@open_window5705]

Also: A character from Glee appears in an episode as a pizza delivery boy. And later in the series the whole office watches an episode of Glee at a party

[@meneertje25]

Yes he plays a dude in a wheelchair but then Michael mentions that the kid in the wheelchair is his favourite character as a nod to the actor

[@open_window5705]

@@meneertje25 Ohhhhhh. I didn't notice that!

[@tommohan273]

Bradley cooper is mentioned which implies e existence of the hangover in the office universe

[@samiam8472]

This happens in a lot of shows like DC legends. They mention that Supernatural is a show when 5 characters from their show play in that show

[@elixorvideos]

Shit I knew he looked familiar, but I haven't watched Glee since... 2012?

[@spacecest.slimes9944]

Also to add, Tobys mentioned that "hr is a joke" meaning nobody takes him seriously, so he probubly just gave up telling them no alcohol.

[@joshcaladia]

"erin, hr is a joke. i can't do anything about anything." poor toby

[@tylerbeaton8439]

Also the company change

[@EKJavi]

This was a massive time gap though

[@JD.ONLINE]

I used to think the volleyball thing was an inconsistency but from being on the lacrosse team and friends with players on the soccer team many players still willingly join the team and are good at the sport but practice is always more boring than the games and players get tired going to 2 hour practices everyday, even the best players would be happy when practice was cancelled one day so it isn’t far fetched that pam tried to get out of it sometimes especially if she had to play it during pe and school AND after school

[@saihajmangat2995]

especially considering it's gym and it may be too easy/boring. I don't usually choose to play sports or exercise in my free time, but I am usually a natural and compete well without much effort on my part. Most people who know me get surprised when I can lift heavy things, run pretty fast, or have a mean serve in the case I rarely chose to or have to. It could simply be that

[@tigerlord9302]

Easy explanation is Pam grew out of faking BMS, and when she noticed the camera crew was confused because of her earlier statement she said all that to recover. Especially after the junior high statement which seems awkward for her.

[@fiahoward8186]

In reference to the hardwood flooring, Oscar says something like"I always knew it was under here. I just never thought I'd see it." He knew it was there. Not a plot hole

[@Ellis-p8i]

The thing that annoyed me the most was that Dwight lied about going to the dentist when he was going behind Michael’s back, but later acted like he had no idea adults could go to the dentist.

[@pagesofspilledink]

He believed only kids go to the dentist for teeth cleaning I believe, and not adults, but then again, when he said he was going to the dentist, he claimed it was for an emergency crown, so I think he would go to the dentist if it was absolutely necessary.

[@HeyThatWeirdGuy]

Well it's a very common reason to come into work late. Whether or not he believes in adults going to a dentist. It creates a valid and believable excuse .

[@vitormartins3773]

also, dwight lied about going to the dentist but freaked out when Jim lied about doing jury work

[@VanquishedAgain]

​@vitormartins3773 I mean. Dwight just looking to get fired for anything lol. But Jim took a whole week off where Dwight took a morning to do business related things

[@okok-fw1vl]

The first one isnt really a mistake tho? Maybe she meant she skipped a FEW classes of it but still, she played in junior high and college so that would still make sense as to why shes so good.

[@nataliezhou6752]

Also, Pam looks to be serving a jump serve in volleyball, which is different from a standing serve. The tutorial this person used as reference was for a standing serve. Her form looks to be okay.

[@erikpohjanmaa9478]

Yeah just like me. I play football and have played for 10 years, but I don't like it in school cus my class is wild and they don't know how to play

[@MrMikekydd]

Agreed. You can skip a couple " go through the motions" JHS practices and still be good. Lol

[@frogger6478]

Also gym volleyball is different than sporting volleyball lol

[@jabariwiththebois5765]

I did that with basketball a lot too. I dont get this guy's point...

[@vlim5601]

4 minutes of inconsistencies, 12 minutes of comparing moments of a character that developed over the run of the show

[@tylerv1221]

About half of these are inconsistencies and about half are just things that happened and character developement.

[@21centuryhippie61]

Did you read the video title?

[@tylerv1221]

RubberBoy II I’m saying that about half of these are with the title and the others aren’t

[@mortyexplains]

I'm happy if even half were worth anyone's time ! Will try harder next time to get the other half right 😆

[@matthewperez1057]

chadnisha Im sorry that so many people can’t accept that one of their favorite shows have errors in it. I love The Office and have watched every episode a minimum of 3 times. I really enjoyed this video and thought you did a great job.

[@mortyexplains]

@@matthewperez1057 such kind words thank you so much I really appreciate it !

[@ricketycricket4361]

9:59 that's clearly the exact same house just with the shrubs and flowers landscaped better in the second shot...

[@MaxLascombe]

was looking for this comment! how did he think the houses were different?

[@tay1683]

thank you!! my girlfriend and i were comparing them and they’re definitely the same

[@autumnrogers2933]

We used to have 2 different doors; one that was more “insulated” for the winter and one for spring, summer, and fall.

[@nevadie133]

This guy included a ton of iffy "inconsistencies"

[@A_Goat]

Good call mate. That is the same house. It looks different because in this episode Jim gets the home for Pam and him to live in but the house wasn't in great condition and had some strange things like a picture of a clown not only hung on the wall but nailed in place. A, "fixer-upper", for sure. However Pam was happy because it was something to build upon. The second photo is the outcome of their restoration and shows good attention to detail. Not an inconsistency at all.

[@xXSkittlezXx0]

I played volleyball in highschool and her pose is quite normal for a serve jumping while serving makes it a more powerful serve lol

[@user-tu1yb8rx6z]

Linizzle ohmygod thissssss. I was hoping someone said something about that.

[@newaccount90356]

Linizzle ikr! this guy is kinda dumb lmao

[@carolinapuig217]

Some people just have their own type of jump serve this dude obviously hasn't seen high school volleyball lol😂😂

[@mattdeaver6850]

It wasnt a perfect jump serve, but that's definitely not a plothole.

[@mortyexplains]

It was definitely the jump serve of an actress who was forced into trying one with no training

[@Rich-qs6kn]

The real reason for character personality changes is because at the start they were going with something closer to the British version of the office, but the comedy was changed over time to suit the American palette

[@MattrickBT]

That and characters are supposed to grow.

[@VanquishedAgain]

Yea they started and every character was unlikable and then they realized nobody would watch that for 10 years lol

[@obamadrip4021]

When Michael said that he missed the college parties, he was trying to fit in as part of the group

[@GunnLeonn]

Or he went to them but didnt attend college

[@samjohnson4766]

@@GunnLeonn its micheal. he probably wasn't invited to any so he would throw his own parties and eat dangerous amount of guac when nobody showed up

[@jakelauer2599]

100%

[@iciinq6305]

exactly i would have commented this

[@darkwoods1954]

The person who made this video doesn't seem to really ''get'' a lot of the jokes and character quirks and instead thinks they're plot holes.

[@bongo1392]

9:27 In the episode where Dwight tricks Angela into getting married to him, he mentions that Angela has “sisters” (plural)

[@oliviabrewer08]

she probably doesn't talk about them because maybe they're "whorish" or not religious enough like Angela.

[@nochannelmusician769]

Olivia there’s a running theory that Angela grew up in an extremely religious home of cultish proportions, so her family might be more crazy and conservative in their ways than she is. It might explain her extreme hypocrisy (calling people whores and sleeping with multiple people without remorse, being rude, lying). It would also explain why she might be estranged from her sister

[@patstaysuckafreeboss8006]

Just watched the episode and couldn't find that quote. He didnt mention her "sisters"

[@bongo1392]

@@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 Season 5 Episode 10 "The Surplus" 10:33 seconds left in the episode he says to Angela "After all the readings from your sisters" with sisters in plural, meaning multiple sisters.

[@M3l155a]

Of course Erin would give Andy her computer. She liked him....

[@TheNoiseySpectator]

Exactly! She gave it to him because she was in love with him! And besides, even if Erin _thinks_ she is a badass who grew up all tough and mean, we know she is really a Sweetheart's Sweetheart! 💞👼

[@xNO123x]

Freyja Cooper How is she a whore?

[@paprika8334]

Freyja Cooper Wtf? She is literally the sweetest

[@freyjacooper9082]

@@paprika8334 Ice hated her ever since she played with Andy the way she did. So she dates him, then dumps him and dates Gabe, then dumps Gabe and tries to get back with Andy, but he has a new girlfriend, and she runs away. Andy realises he likes her and goes to get her back, breaking up with the other girlfriend. Then he goes on his boat trip, and she no longer likes him. She pretty much cheats on him with Pete, and starts treating Andy poorly. She calls him juvenile when she's the most immature person there. So then she breaks up with him and dates Pete. I know Andy wasn't the best in the end, but still. I've hated her since Pete

[@paprika8334]

Freyja Cooper People break up. Every relationship isn’t going to be all sunshine and rainbows. In reality some people date multiple people before actually falling in love/ finding the right person. She was never head over heels in love with Gabe, she found him quite revolting actually and that’s why she broke up with him. She wasn’t happy with him and he could be quite possessive. Now Andy and Erin were just adorable. Once they started to date they were just perfect, but people change and that’s exactly what Andy did. He messed up and left her for months (never told her when he was coming back + didn’t even invite her) He rarely communicated with her over the few months he was on vacation (i think he sent her only one email while he was away) Over these few months she reevaluated her relationship and grew to dislike Andy which was justified because who leaves for months without communicating. She felt as if he forgot about her. Over this time period she met her other half but did not want to believe that he could actually be *that special person* and wanted to stay Devoted to Andy even though he was an ass. But the heart wants what it wants and it didn’t want Andy. She was hesitant to breaking up with him but she put on her Brave face and did it. I don’t think that ^ is the definition of Thot, my dude.

[@howdareyouexist]

dwight saying there was a bathroom under the porch happened in season 2, the outhouse was in season 4. therefore he built an outhouse sometime between the two episodes

[@montecristo7527]

1:45 I think Meredith doesn't like Jim because he didn't reciprocate her feelings for him

[@mortyexplains]

Yeah though she never seemed spiteful towards Michael despite him rejecting and being openly repulsed by her

[@Aj-vm3hy]

I think it was just a joke

[@montecristo7527]

@@Aj-vm3hy did u pay attention to their interactions

[@daweirdghostTV]

6:24 I'm not 100% sure, but knowing Michael it's very possible that on the 4th date he attempted to propose, and the 9th date he did it again. 8:26 Its very much possible that there are multiple different cleaning groups, especially since the building is semi big. It's possible to groups come every night, or switch off

[@ligiabonfanti3493]

Carol may also say just any random number meaning that he proposed to her very early on. It wouldn't make sense for her to remember the exact number of dates years later.

[@stinkylee306]

Also They could have hired a new crew.

[@ZombiZohm]

@@stinkylee306 contract renewals are often yearly and they could have easily gone with a different company that put in a lower bid.

[@slimeb0y_]

9:40 actually, that makes sense to me. Before, she was bragging about her pride stopping her relationship with her sister. But then around the time Andy tried to quit, Angela was hitting rock bottom and tried to tell him to not let pride ruin his life. So it'd make sense that she may have reached out to her sister to make amends, just in time for her wedding with Dwight

[@EM-wo6wf]

Yes I agree I don’t think that’s a plot hole I always thought that she eventually reached out to her sister and then made up

[@VesperVampiric]

In a deleted scene, Meredith trips over the face hole, so assuming that that deleted scene is still part of lore, we can assume that the face hole was removed shortly after

[@hannahdurnal292]

It’s almost like it’s a tv show...

[@alchemistsindica]

It should still be somewhat realistic especially if that’s what they’re going for.

[@hannahdurnal292]

Coleman Cinema this show is based primarily off of stereotypes so I don’t think they’re trying to be too realistic. They just write whatever drives the plot forward.

[@bigman5823]

Hannah Durnal if it has a plot then it has to have a consistent continuity

[@hannahdurnal292]

Joe mama yeah but after a while the writers change and they’re destined to miss small details

[@bigman5823]

Hannah Durnal oh ok, that’s fair enough

[@Websterm]

In the Benihana episode, the bringing the different asian waitresses back was intentional to show Michael couldn't tell the difference between the girls.

[@KDotO79]

Where u read this? Cuz they still pointed that out with the second pair of Asian girls when Michael marked her... Why would they need to change them when they literally made a point of it ... That makes no sense.... Its either a stereo type belief in casting or it was a split filming/reshoot and the original girls couldn't come back for it... Makes no sense to go to that extent to make a point... Gonna have to see some articles that indicates this

[@EM-wo6wf]

@@KDotO79 It’s literally obvious

[@KDotO79]

@@EM-wo6wfI looked this up and no it's not obvious at you say... in fact it wasn't like what she wrote at all? Atleast from what the actress, producers and writers all indicate. It is said that in the first storyline... they were supposed to be different waitresses, uglier ones indicating Michael and Andy failed at picking them up and had to settle for less . During filming they realize that the new asian waitresses was to pretty to play the role they intended for in the storyline so they made them out to be the same ones instead and continue with the storyline of Micheal confusing the two.... This is directly from the creator mouth and one of the Asian actress. This is an excerpt from in an article - The episode was shot in a real Benihana restaurant. According to the show's prop master, different actresses were used because Andy and Michael failed to pick up the original waitresses, and settled for "less attractive ones". At Paley Fest 2007, Greg Daniels admitted that the joke failed due to poor casting. The waitresses that comes to the office were supposed to be unattractive. Daniels stated that the actresses they hired for the role were "too good-looking"... So yeah how bout we find out the facts and not use the obvious when sometimes the most obvious is not the correct answer. So instead of coming in this thread and telling me it's obvious next time look that shit up before you comment bud. Google is your friend. Use it instead of looking like a dumb ass.

[@kendras1005]

Also, when Andy first gets transferred he’s the director of sales (something like that) but later in the show he’s a terrible salesman??

[@mortyexplains]

Great point ! Thanks for sharing !

[@D4VID9724]

yeah and they also said that he outsells phyllis, but in the later seasons he almost does as bad as Pam???? nani

[@TamTam-qe1hr]

That's actually not a plot hole. It's called an inconsistency. But yeah, I noticed that too.

[@ce7.0]

someone getting promoted for something they're not good at is not unrealistic in the slightest; have you ever seen a manager in real life?

[@tommypaddack]

@@ce7.0 Exactly. And he was a big suck up to Josh in Stamford, who allowed Call of Duty in their Office and had Andy on his team. Totally plausible.

[@PotatoPizza420]

this show and the breaking bad universe could genuinely coexist. Besides Badger being Dwight's cousin, the Jesse Pinkman skit of him giving meth to Creed and then Saul Goodman being a manager after taking that offer to live a new life really makes me wish it were canon

[@medevialpuppet3695]

As someone who loves both shows I hate the idea of them coexisting

[@selmabahy9027]

Also, Andy's name was originally Walter Jr..

[@latriciaglitter5829]

Anybody else notice that the senator had a kid when he was first introduced?

[@freyjacooper9082]

I'm pretty sure when they were discussing whether he's gay the kid was mentioned, but idk after that.

[@latriciaglitter5829]

Freyja Cooper you possibly know what episode that is?

[@freyjacooper9082]

@@latriciaglitter5829 Not sure what episode it is, but here's the clip: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/an_IlJiCeNaepcU

[@mortyexplains]

It's when he first meets Angela at Hay Place

[@savannahdaras]

Yes and his “kid” was Dwight’s nephew that comes later lol

[@GabrielNsmt]

what about cathy? she went to tallahasee with the crew and stayed there w/o any explanation

[@mortyexplains]

I never considered that, great call out !

[@kelvinmeng4299]

cathy either leaves dunder mifflin or stays in florida- she’s pams replacement and pam came back from maternity leave therefore not being needed anymore

[@Mokke-Are-Innocent]

@@kelvinmeng4299 I never thought of that.

[@kelvinmeng4299]

juhoudew yes, she came back one day after she just gave birth- she probably told them in advance and dunder mifflin wouldn’t need a replacement for someone whos gone for 1 day

[@leafybry7996]

Not to mention how Danny also just randomly left

[@jessejames2486]

If you did any actual “research”, some of these are ridiculous 😂😂😂 “In season 1, Jim drank water but in season 7, he drank a soda......”

[@elliotmell3185]

Jesse James wtf does that even mean... he doesn’t even say that

[@bastiandaniels]

@@elliotmell3185 he's giving a sarcastic example to prove a point idiot

[@jessejames2486]

Sebastian Daniels thank you haha

[@elliotmell3185]

Sebastian Daniels that’s a little rude 😔

[@PtylerBeats]

The_Amazing_MELLon it’s a little true

[@bjocelyn6]

No no no no no. I can’t even watch this long enough to find out if they have all my inconsistencies, because they started out with the volleyball thing which just adds to the plot, for me. Meredith saying she’s creeped out by Jim after he rejects her would make sense. And yeah, reusing actors or switching them up does not count at all. I was here for things like Meredith alternately having one or two kids, Dwight’s parents existing at the beginning but not later, stuff like that. I’m not even gonna make it that far because I’m annoyed by the non points.

[@peterdeprado6625]

when pam left DM to work for the MSPC, she and jim didnt have kids yet and werent married + her new job didnt require her moving to a different city. jim's decision to not tell pam was completely different.

[@craigweaver6049]

This comment was definitely written by a woman...

[@peterdeprado6625]

@@craigweaver6049 your point?

[@zoegordon1403]

Craig Weaver literally what does that have to do with anything

[@mollymann4115]

Craig Weaver 🙃

[@edgylettuce1873]

😂

[@sarahhedrick9471]

Also pretty sure steve carrell got hair plugs after season one, and the benihana waitress switch was obviously intentional.

[@cnejknaten]

They were actually going a different way with the character and made Steve Carrell look bad intentionally in the first season before they decided to make him a more likable character. The hair plug thing was a rumor.

[@cody9766]

I heard he didn't get hair plugs they just started putting make up in his hair to make it look more full

[@newaccount90356]

Kevin Natenstedt yes you’re spot on. the first season was kinda a grungy, grey, dull looking show. im not saying the show was dull, it was hilarious, it just looked dull, on purpose. i think they were trying to make it look like the uk office. but later on they took a different approach, they made the show more colorful, they made michael have a nice full head of hair (he always did, i think they shaved it back for season 1) they made michael wear full suits instead of just a shirt and a tie, they changed jims hairdue to look nicer, just everything got more colorful and nicer and brighter looking, and one of the changes made was michaels hair.

[@newaccount90356]

Kevin Natenstedt you can see images from before the office season one and after near the end of the office, and hes always had the same hair, but in season 1 it looked different implying that they cut his hair for the show, not that he got hair plugs or a transplant or anything

[@TheLoLface1337]

All "waitresses" look alike

[@beyshore_]

I'm not insightful enough to be a movie critic. Maybe I could be a KZbin video critic. "This video is bad."

[@speedweed4728]

lol, I hope everyone gets the joke

[@matt-ph5ii]

Is it bad that I could hear Andy saying this in my head?

[@Shockwave99999]

That painting is bad

[@Shockwave99999]

@@matt-ph5ii it would be weird if u didn't

[@guitar_hiro]

Roo doo doot doot dadoo!

[@helloworld-fx6og]

A small mistake you missed is that Erin tried some expresso when Michael made the disco café and liked it, then a few seasons later said she had never tried expresso before. Pretty minor tv mistake but I still thought it was funny

[@iwantmykidssusan4941]

Well Erin is supposed to be dumb, it’s possible she just didn’t remember. Did Michael actually call it espresso or did he say “black happy drink”.

[@gracefulbarbie]

the "who started first" one with Jim and Pam was so crazy

[@katalinventilla1915]

To me it was obvious that Pam started first and she had known Michael for ages. Also, she had been engaged to Roy for 3 yrs in the beginning of the series and they must have met in the Office. Jim was just starting out at that point.

[@alia.1041]

@@katalinventilla1915 I though Roy and Pam had been dating since highschool

[@thethreestooges6420]

mhm just mhm m i’m hmmm kkk

[@oga_washington]

@@alia.1041 yes but the engagement is 3 years old

[@thebrideofghostface]

About the Angela sister thing, I'd like to think that they started talking again and smoothed things over. It's very possible since Angela becomes a much better person over the course of the show, and likely less petty. They're probs referring to how close they've been since their whole 16 year thing.

[@mattslupek7988]

Angela had two sisters, so the “Maybe it’s a different sister.” thing works.

[@PinkCottonCandy88]

I always thought she had more than 1 sister. That makes more sense to me

[@KatieSteedArt1]

She definitely has more than one sister. In the surplus during the 'fake' wedding with Andy, Dwight mentions Angela's SISTERS. She has more than one.

[@tigerlord9302]

@@mattslupek7988Except for the fact the finale addresses the fact she invited the same sister to the wedding, since they used to be “best friends”.

[@tigerlord9302]

They did as the sister was in the finale.

[@theworstmaid]

"I know everything about film. I've seen over 240 of them." Yes, he hasn't seen every movie. I didn't even know pretty woman existed before this show.

[@sasamochi21]

yes, and pretty woman doesn't seem like the type of film dwight would like anyways

[@mortyexplains]

He didn't have to have seen it, but he had never heard of it while claiming he knows everything about film.

[@sasamochi21]

@@mortyexplains it's supposed to be a joke. he obviously wouldn't care that much about movies outside his favourite genres and pretty woman doesn't seem to be a movie he'd watch

[@sasamochi21]

@@mortyexplains by the way, i'm not trying to be rude i know a lot of work has been put into this video and i'm sorry about the backlash you're getting this could've been a cool video if you'd change the name to 'how the characters from the office evolved as people plus minor plot holes you might've missed' or something

[@mortyexplains]

I know it's a joke and it's a good one too. And I agree Pretty Woman is a movie Dwight would never watch

[@amarissss8990]

my favorite inconsistency in the show is the timeline of andy’s parents’ relationship. in secretary’s day he states that if it weren’t for secretaries he wouldn’t have a stepmom. but then in a later season he states that his dad ran off with another woman, leaving the family with no money. however i feel like most of the ones talked about in the video are easily explained if you know the show well enough, have a logical explanation, or are deliberate as part of a joke. ://

[@saihajmangat2995]

if andy's dad ran off (leaving no money for the family) and remarried, then andy would have a stepmom "bcs of" secretaries tho right?

[@9_cosmo_997]

the woman his dad ran off with was probably the secretary?

[@yoong___]

Y'all clearly have no knowledge of volleyball. The jump serve is the best way to serve but also the hardest

[@rockingirl1025]

Brit Gilpin exactly!

[@ElectricBureau]

her form was still iffy but yea I jump float all the time and I was the best server on the team my Junior and Senior years

[@lime8823]

Her form is complete trash

[@mariahyohannes]

Mathew Murdock that’s probably because she’s an ACTOR playing in a fictional show and didn’t play volleyball in real life but in the show

[@lime8823]

Mariah J. Well I gotta take what Happens In the show as fact

[@LYPNO3]

Many... many... many of these are not plot holes

[@richbreath_]

The title says plot holes and inconsistencies

[@MichaelParktheFirst]

@@richbreath_ many of his points are character developments. For example he mentions Angela's breakdown after being dumped by the senator as a plot hole from before where she was prim and proper. This is obviously a character development, since in the show she literally lost everything when the senator left her.

[@richbreath_]

@@MichaelParktheFirst I have seen many comments criticizing the term plot hole. Even though the title also mentions inconsistencies. In regards to character development that would be under the umbrella of inconsistencies. Whether or not you agree with the assertions are a different issue.

[@oneasterisk4703]

@@richbreath_ Im pretty sure you would not call character development an inconsistency. It is not inconsistent that someone's character would develop especially on a TV show

[@richbreath_]

@@oneasterisk4703 I'm not calling it that the KZbinr is.

[@Mia.S13]

But Pam didn’t move away, she was still in Scranton and living in the same house 7 days a week. Unlike Jim who was spending a lot of time in Philly!

[@kayleecrane4855]

plus, they had kids when Jim when to philly, and he was having fun slacking off the first visit when he constantly said he was busy.

[@kenziej3740]

@@kayleecrane4855 you terry have to bring a home uûuuuuuuu

[@laurenmiller8084]

Exactly. When Pam did it, she didn't lie / stretch the truth about her involvement, Jim didn't have to move anywhere else or change his lifestyle much (other than not seeing Pam at work for a few days), they weren't married and they didn't have kids. It's not the same at all.

[@Wayneeeeeeeeee]

Yes! Also that was just at the start of Jim and pams relationship when they were still getting things worked out. They were still able to take risks. Jim went to philly for half of the week while he had 2 children!!

[@DancingMangoTV]

He also did it behind her back, she did not

[@danikoob]

I've just noticed than on "Secretary Day" Andy says "If it wasn’t for secretaries I wouldn’t have a stepmom" but their parents are still married, they split on season 9 when Andy goes on that 3 month boat trip

[@emilykira7025]

When Pam wanted to help Michael start his own paper company, she wasn't uprooting their family to a different city.

[@mortyexplains]

But she was also taking an unpaid "job"

[@alrivera27]

chadnisha but him knew pam was doing the job and Jim hid the secret from Pam for weeks

[@mortyexplains]

@@alrivera27 no she didn't, she just stood up all of a sudden and walked out without talking to him

[@alrivera27]

chadnisha Jim found out like 10 minutes after pan took the job and Jim told Pam after weeks

[@mortyexplains]

@@alrivera27 not 10 minutes, in the moment without her giving a second thought. At least Jim brought her into the picture before he quit his job, moved, and invested any money in it.

[@ethanflippinarnold6935]

5:15 oscar was just nervous around the other guy because he liked him.

[@idkjustchangingmyname7343]

Yeah that was super obvious to me. Or he was intentionally trying to get the guy he liked to “help” him learn.

[@Travelbug71]

Right. I thought it was cute.

[@idsavo]

*THANK YOU* Stress is an amazing factor and it explains a lot of "plot holes" mentioned in the video.

[@samlikeshams]

The reason why Pam's painting was gone was because in a deleted scene Erin tries to clean Pam's painting and ruins Pam's painting

[@emmagrace4351]

Wait what episode was that?

[@samlikeshams]

It's deleted Scenes

[@emmagrace4351]

@@samlikeshams wait but what episode was pams painting gone?

[@samlikeshams]

@@emmagrace4351 I not sure but it's past when Michael gets told by Andy and Dwight that he talked to a mafia person

[@emmagrace4351]

@@samlikeshams oh ok thanks

[@3nzo.568]

"Toby's face is a plot hole and inconsistency" - Michael Scott probably

[@pvzmaster5063]

“The Office Ladies.” Is a podcast by the way Jenna Fischer(Pam) and Angelea Kinsey (Angelea) it really goes into all these plot holes.

[@stretchscreamers]

*Angela

[@gznoodle]

where can i listen? is it available on spotify?

[@stretchscreamers]

christine idk

[@tbxsm]

christine It’s on the default podcast app on iPhones

[@elenabenavides4146]

@@gznoodle it is available on Spotify. That's how I listen to it

[@anthonycampagna7000]

Agreed with below. Many are a part of the characters.. Micheal fabricates things often and doesn't remember things he doesn't value.

[@MsAJ224]

The only thing that really bugs me for some reason is that they couldn't be consistent with who started working there first between Pam and Jim. It messes up the timeline lol

[@wiskyr6510]

Damnit Barry...

[@single-cellshark6013]

It was Pam. She introduced him to Dwight

[@mamatorinq5678]

Nusrat Rayhan It is also implied in the first episode that Jim has been at Dunder Mifflin for 7 years. The problem is that Michael is the one who hired Jim, but he’s been manager for 4 years.

[@chrissioufi925]

@@mamatorinq5678 I've hired people whom I don't manage...yet 😉

[@asterisk911]

@@mamatorinq5678 IN another episode Michael says he's been there something like 14 or 15 years (it's the one where he wears a woman's suit and negotiates for a raise).

[@syl59281]

When Pam went to join the Michael Scott paper company, yeah she doesn't talk it through with Jim first, but he's clearly aware of it and soon as she's decided. Not really the same situation

[@willbaker6532]

12:00 that's not a plot hole is it. That's a continuation of the joke of michael assuming Stanley has diabetes

[@lmellor3679]

no, later in the show stanley says 'ive already taken a shot of insulin' when demanding he wants cake, and ryan or someone says he should have an apple - maybe he developed diabetes?

[@iciinq6305]

@@lmellor3679 yep

[@ElrealMariopwns]

Even if he has diabetes it’s not a plot hole to be upset that someone you don’t like is constantly bringing it up, and even if I have diabetes if I’ve never told anyone and someone assumes I did because I was fat I would still be upset regardless or whether or not I actually have it

[@FishyFox]

Also when Nellie tells people to pick a charity, Stanley picks a diabetes related one and Angela says he's selfish for choosing one that benefits him

[@thehe2748]

Around season 8 or 9 he mentions he does have diabetes

[@lizziecoens3951]

i think angela changes the most over the series. in the beginning she’s rude and snappy but in the end she’s joyful and relaxed

[@ThePrettyFLMan]

I think that happens when she finally ends up with Dwight

[@thedavidjscott_]

That happens to people, lol.

[@nochannelmusician769]

She’s rude and snappy literally the entire series. She’s just in a good mood after getting engaged to Dwight.

[@DrewsterRooster37]

Maybe Andy invited different people because his parents didn't want to.

[@mordecaiwatson2308]

Or his Mum divorced

[@hamzairfan5550]

I think that was his brother maybe, since he was named Walter but then that name was given to his brother.

[@vlvchii]

Andy's dad ran off with another woman in season 8 didn't he? Or was the scene shown from a previous season. I honestly dont even remember.

[@sofapop653]

Someone else pointed out it looks a bit like the guy who plays Sweeney Todd, which would make it make sense that he’s a paid actor... but then the whole “he was just a plumber” thing wouldn’t have worked.

[@noahnunez7808]

I've heard with andy's first parent were paid actors so that everyone can think that they were proud of him and the second time was his actual parents

[@heysfb]

I totally believe Toby's show brother is the actor's real brother, they were so hilariously similar. There are many little inconsistencies - another being Stanley secretly happily using the stairs while everyone is losing weight and later freaking out during Stairmageddon, threatening to quit and refusing to take the stairs to the point Dwight has to drug him and physically drag him - but I don't really think those are the same as "plot holes".

[@smalltownlivin]

He is his real brother, he is or was married to Angela in real life

[@mechengr1731]

The Stanley one is believable. During the weight loss episodes, hes motivated to lose weight, but then he gave up on the diet at some point and maybe felt too old to have to take the stairs. A sad truth with dieting.

[@21LeonidasZ]

The unbelievable thing actually is that the documentary crew didn't interfere. I mean where is the red line for the crew to interfere, when Pam is sad or when Dwight tries to put the office on fire and Stanley is literally dragged by using drugs, with the possibility of injury as well?

[@elliewuzzup7689]

@@21LeonidasZ I mean they did say the boom guy got fired for intervening

[@AnnJo-gq8gu]

@@elliewuzzup7689 and the boom guy obviously had a crush on Pam

[@nordmark16]

8:31 They could've replaced the cement since there was a face sized divet in it. Also they never show that cement again and didnt have any real reason to so how do you know it's not there

[@SumoLucas]

Adam Nordmark i’m fairly sure they said in the episode they had to replace the cement because it was basically a big pothole

[@nthgth]

@@SumoLucas Do you remember the line where they said that?

[@disphit5350]

Bryan Liguori I’m pretty sure he is right

[@nordmark16]

@@SumoLucas Did they? They usually don't call back to cold opens in the ensuing episode

[@SumoLucas]

Adam Nordmark i believe it was the same episode and part of the joke? I seem to remember it that way. If someone can point out which episode it is i’ll go rewatch it.

[@reesegalvas2101]

You forgot that in stress relief, Toby tries to sell Girl Scout cookies to Dwight, but in season 8, he claims it’s his daughter’s first year as a scout.

[@kavalogue]

Use a bit of common sense. The cookies first time around were not his daughters. Jesus Christ this show has some stupid people as fans

[@RINNECODA]

I feel like this might have just been a ploy to get them to buy cookies

[@reesegalvas2101]

@@kavalogue he literally says it’s his daughters cookies in both episodes.

[@patstaysuckafreeboss8006]

@@reesegalvas2101 I've watched the show a million times and never heard that. What are the episodes?

[@reesegalvas2101]

@@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 season 5 episode 15 and season 8 episode 18.

[@summonedskull3216]

In season 8 episode 15 titled “Tallahassee” after the group (including Stanley) leave for Florida. After realizing it’s too quiet in the office. Pam noticed that Erin set the phone to voicemail and changes it. Shortly after the phone starts to ring. Pam and Andy fight over who should answer it. Everyone in the office starts yelling at them it answer the phone and you can hear Stanley say “answer the damn phone”. Around 5:20 into the episode

[@joereddington4070]

No, Stanley said that when Jim was trying to train Kevin to transfer the call. After that scene, they cut to Andy's talking head where he said his maid was dead.

[@kermitsewerside]

though a lot of these can be simply attributed to character development and plot progression, this video was still very interesting to watch and i loved hearing about little details i didn’t think of before. some of these comments are much harsher than necessary lol

[@elliotmell3185]

kermit sewerside dude the people on here are so mean. Loosen up a little, it’s just a video explaining stuff HE didn’t understand

[@staircaseofkneecaps783]

I think you mentioned like one or maybe two plotholes in this entire video. The rest is just you misunderstanding jokes or missing the point of character/plot developments. There are so many plot holes you never even brought up. This video just confuses me.

[@nolongerher]

pam’s form was weird bc it was a jump serve 😂 jump serves always look different

[@mortyexplains]

Ok a weird jump serve !

[@Alwaysbusking]

Confirmation bias and self-deception.

[@spideyhunter20]

Olivia Dolcezza her form is horrible.

[@ollierankin1485]

Her form isn’t weird it’s how u do a jumping surve

[@DJ_Cub]

It’s incredibly clear to anyone who has ever played volleyball or even just an athlete in general that Pam has never before or since hit a volleyball. It definitely is not a jump serve later in the episode either. The actor is just clearly not an athlete. Sorry

[@stkjuice]

The strangler was confirmed to be the guy that was convicted. Toby had his doubts so when he went to visit the convict he got strangled in the same way

[@jakebasnight501]

Pam moving Rooms in a building is different than Jim moving all the way to Philly

[@izz0B]

@The Loveland Toad Pam never said that money was the issue it was him being so far away while she was overwhelmed with work now that they had children to look after

[@domhnallgleeson171]

but she also moved to New York earlier in the show

[@Jabootylolz]

Situations are Situational. Dating vs Married with Kids.

[@domhnallgleeson171]

@@Jabootylolz no one asked child

[@Jabootylolz]

@@domhnallgleeson171 At least I’m not insecure enough about my manhood to call somebody else a child just because they proved me wrong. Enjoy your happy life pal.

[@jasonbucy]

This video just makes me appreciate how constant and thoughtful the writing was.

[@xXLanyuzAnlunXx]

These are not plot holes.

[@mortyexplains]

What about inconsistencies?

[@zurzakne-etra7069]

@@mortyexplains fuck you... this video was stupid and pointless... get a life...

[@64siskat96]

@@mortyexplains nerd

[@ris1269]

With your logic, I’m surprised there aren’t more “plot holes” in the video

[@mortyexplains]

Ha I guess I have kind of contrived my own definition 😆

[@thebigragu9952]

chadnisha trying to play it off makes it worse

[@Diortelon]

16:57 They call Michael "Jim".