The Scranton Strangler Timeline

[@ToyInsanity]

Maybe it was Bob Vance, Vance Strangulation

[@gagedelong1620]

Toy Insanity underrated comment

[@Jzackey_Boi]

Toy Insanity YES

[@ericwalsh4881]

Aadi Sudan bob vance, bob strangulation

[@mrmister1657]

Toy Insanity bob is definitely a bad person even if he’s not the strangler

[@qwertyasdf4081]

Toy Insanity best comment to ever exist

[@PassMeDownJeans]

Creed isn't the Scranton strangler, he's just a killer

[@kelciecarroll1857]

yes!

[@sirisongbird]

Copycat strangler 🙄

[@agrigorian4818]

Its Michael Scotch u twat.

[@dunhillsupramk3]

killer is such an ugly word, i think Creed would prefer the label "murderer"...

[@lettuce3337]

SIRIUS SAM 6 why do you have to get cats involved in this

[@toxic1strike167]

Don’t forgot that Toby literally knows how to jump a fence in two seconds, like he did at the beginning of season four.

[@karlafuentes2432]

@@imanidiot1725yeah

[@princessfunnies9089]

He knew he could but he didn't want to seem suspicious so he didn't jump until he needed to escape that unforgettable moment

[@badreedinedjellali1328]

it's seems everything all the evidence point at creed because he acts very strange and he's strange person

[@chentitohut8066]

yk it’s a stunt double right

[@derekbos4404]

Strangling and jumping are basically the same thing 🤓

[@icecreamjunkie6790]

"Dwight seems like a law-abiding citizen." *shoots Stanley with three bull tranquilizers*

[@mortyexplains]

🤣🤣 very true

[@anaconda2371]

Andy DID say it was ok

[@maggielau9347]

Shoots actual gun in the office

[@Wynnlysm]

IceCreamJunkie don’t forget when he was acting manager “no one saw the bullet leave the gun”

[@nebulous8389]

It's not dwight hes a little insane but not the strangler

[@oliverolivers5080]

Maybe the real Scranton Strangler is the friends we made along the way

[@wakarangerYT]

By god you’ve cracked the case

[@Joshuaend]

of course. how could we not think at that perspective. you truly are a genius oliver.

[@treehuggerkyle]

Beautiful sentiment. That should be a bumper sticker.

[@mortyexplains]

That is beautiful !

[@ninjaindy3078]

is that a good place reference or not?

[@jacklewis3803]

2:07 Dwight may have been an exprerienced hunter, But Jan has experienced hunter.

[@zaingazdhar6757]

Ooooooooooooh

[@wayblu2799]

Underrated af

[@laurengugucachoo6213]

You took me by the hand, made me a man

[@sourcandy6469]

@@laurengugucachoo6213 THAT ONE NIGHT.. one night

[@wayblu2799]

@@sourcandy6469 you made everything alriiiight

[@marbleswan6664]

Watch it be the guy who sells pretzels in the lobby once a year.

[@Vivian-eu4np]

OMG LOL

[@MrEvanNoyes]

That’s some free pretzel day bub

[@phntyler]

Or the guy that gets pretzels yearly.

[@redacted9839]

Lope - Inactive oh my god

[@JenWalk13]

Technically it's panacakes

[@karuptedninja2000]

I think it was Moze because he is the one I most medium suspect

[@elijahcasey5216]

karuptedninja this comment wins

[@ieatglue8134]

Wait a second

[@sharpshades]

True detective

[@reyskyhopper8709]

But Dwight said he’s never seen him leave the house but what about when Dwight’s at work

[@consumingfilms]

You win. Well done.

[@mack5221]

I love how Toby is an actor and also is a directer on the show, so he gave himself the role of getting hated by everyone. This guy is awesome 👏🏼

[@SenhorKoringa]

Well actually most episodes with Toby, Liberstein didn’t write those

[@KB-nz6bv]

Lol he did it on purpose so he didn’t have to be on screen for too long and could go back to the writers room. Toby, Ryan and Kelley were all writers and that’s why they were all in the annex so they could spend the off screen time in the writers room.

[@michaelbittner7509]

@@cass.cassandra1685 He literally wrote the episode that is all about him.

[@signaltoground9159]

The reason Micheal hated toby is that when Steve Carell was in a writing room with paul lieberstein (steve carell was a perfectionist) and paul messed something up and steve carell said "my character will hate yours forever because of that" (from the office book and also I'm paraphrasing here)

[@Chuck8]

a lot of the people are, ryan was too

[@fireflyeclipse]

If it were Creed, it wouldn’t just leave them passed out. Creed knows how to finish someone off.

[@mooiioo8094]

Jen - Jen true...

[@handsoap3417]

you mean he? not it

[@mustafaali3333-q1m]

That what she said

[@Ayden.gn2s]

That's what she said

[@betterdenu999]

No that’s the biggest reason Dwight isn’t the strangler

[@sinkofps]

Phyllis once said “don’t make me bring bob into this” and then somebody asked what he would do and she replied “ I shouldn’t have said anything..” hmmmmm.....

[@richt3993]

Yeah but that's probably a nod to his movie Psychocop

[@RileyCH]

when he said he would kill michael he seemed like he genuinely meant it

[@petercameiro7784]

That somebody was JAMES HALPERT

[@agrigorian4818]

Bobs a big pussy Phyllis probably got bigger n hairier ballz than Bob Vance from Vance Refrigeration.

[@andrewmorales3580]

empty No she said this to Jim (who was co-manager at the time) because she was used to threatening Michael with Bob. Remember during the Valentines episode Phyllis mentions to Pam “Why don’t you and Jim join us for lunch? We’ll take all afternoon. Michael is terrified of Bob” 😂 At least that’s what I think haha

[@utkarshwalimbe1795]

Don’t forget the quote “Nostalgia is one of the biggest human weaknesses, second only to the neck”. - Dwight Schrute

[@MrComradebuttons]

you don’t gotta be a strangler to know that’s true haha

[@grievousart]

Creed killed people but he wasn’t the strangler

[@ghostopss111]

exactly i think it was just in his character to do criminal things, and it was just played off as comic relief, so that was weak

[@piss.pants.on.fire.8326]

he would kill in a more gruesome way

[@davidmaximus6709]

Exactly, and you can't judge him, lot's of people kill

[@omidnasser2532]

@@Krystal-Skull i doubt you could overpower creed bratton when he was in the office.

[@omidnasser2532]

@@Krystal-Skull k

[@yeetles]

creed: steals pancakes *thats it. He’s the Scranton strangler*

[@dinluke]

army

[@swisserty]

Panacakes**

[@yeetles]

swisserty what-

[@senaahasan5182]

@0ofadagoose In the video “pancakes” was written as “panacakes” lmao

[@jesseclark5815]

Pamcakes**

[@k.b.tidwell]

I have to say that the Sabre printer connection on "Dexter" is so freaking weirdly unexplainable. What kind of end game setup was that for????

[@melissafonteny5538]

Maybe we'll know soon with the Dexter coming back

[@carprout]

maybe it was juste a props that was reused

[@OGYouTubeEnjoyer]

Maybe it was just a shoutout?

[@miroslavputinovic6650]

Re-using props.

[@TheAurelianProject]

Probably just an Easter egg

[@chamindasingh9564]

There was a scene where Toby hurt Michael and he said “it felt good. I’m gonna chase that feeling” or something along those lines

[@nikolassmithers4870]

It was in the episode “casino night” where Toby won money at a game of poker I think and he said it felt good to take money from mike

[@danielboggan2479]

That was when he called his bluff at casino night

[@spaceloser3016]

SteelRain007 he did.

[@kvnprime]

I liked the plot hole video lol it's what led me to this video..fuck the haters lol most of those plot holes though I thought of over the last few years lol it was a good video though

[@galvatron0810]

He took his money not hurt him

[@sarcastictrash16]

"he steals pancakes" ah yes obvious killer

[@CavinCavintv]

Panacakes* lol

[@Joshuaend]

@@CavinCavintv ?

[@CavinCavintv]

If you look closely at the descriptions for Creed, he misspelled pancakes. I was just trying to be funny

[@kirstenb2359]

If he’s evil enough to steal pancakes, then he’s evil enough to be a serial strangler

[@awesomestevie27]

obvious killer ? yes, obvious strangler ? no

[@MuhammadKilany]

Angela: "$7,000" Creed: "For a cat? I could get you a kid for that."

[@Hex4prezz]

NOW HOLD ON GUYS!! We are leaving out a key suspect! P R I S O N M I K E He's been to jail before plus he hates Toby!

[@mortyexplains]

And he ain't never got caught neither!

[@Captain_Neckbeard]

Prison Mike is some of the funniest shit ever.

[@PhilosophyForDummies00]

My icon is prison Mike what a coincidence

[@liamherlihy9638]

@@mortyexplains underated comment

[@ImJdnn]

Hector Garcia yup it’s prison mike

[@midnightevening3140]

You forgot to mention that toby was afraid to enter the church during jim and pams christening

[@dabesaroundnstuff920]

Aaaaannnd soo much more..

[@ryann4365]

He didn't forget since he put a clip of it, I guess he just didn't think it was worth mentioning

[@mortyexplains]

Yeah I wrote "guilty conscience". He also has that dropping out of seminary story line. I should have emphasized that scene tho

[@Augwa]

That's because he use to be a priest but left it for a women who then left him so he's stuck in HR now. Poor Toby.

[@jvdn2167]

That was mainly because he left the missionary for a woman, but then she left him, so basically he betrayed God for a female.

[@joemurray2293]

Creed asking jim how long he can hold his breathe and how long his arms were for a "job" was a big moment i think

[@BingBongGaming]

When did that happen??

[@mn7263q]

I can tell you the scrnd

[@JamesCarter26293]

@@BingBongGaming idk if you found out, but it was when jim met his commission cap and was trying to find something to do

[@PrivateBooth]

If they made a movie about Toby being the strangler, this is how I’d want it to be: Flenderson Robert Dunder and Robert Mifflin met in a Cmpus in 1949 and decide to start a company that sold brackets for construction. It eventually grows to be a paper product company. Tobias Flenderson, born on February 22 1967. He grows up to be a Father at his local church but abandons his life to be with Kathy Becker. They have a daughter who they name Sasha. Years later they divorce when Toby finds Kathy cheating on him with his old friend George Howard Skub. This leads Toby to have an undying rage for him. In 1972, Mifflin kills himself with a gun due to depression. Michael Scott is hired as Salesman for the Scranton branch in 1993 by Ed Truck The company owners try to get rid of the older managers until Ed Truck threatens a lawsuit so they drop it. Ed Truck retires in 2001 for unexplained reasons when Tom Peets threatens to snitch on him for not listening for depression complaints and not caring for the company. Michaels Scott becomes Manager in 2001 replacing Ed’s position. In 2001, Micheal Scott set up a recommendation box where his Employees could tell him anything. Tom puts in a slip of paper that says that Depression should be helped. Michael never opened the box until a later year. Tom Peets kills himself in 2004. Opening the position for Ryan Howard, the temp. Tom was Toby Flenderson’s best and only friend in the Office. So his loss caused a huge downfall for Toby. Tim’s suicide leads the PBS Camera Crew to record the office to see how they deal with the loss of a former employee in 2005. The office apparently didn’t show any remorse so the PBS people decide to switch gears and just record their lives. (The Office series happens) Toby grows a crush for Pamela Beesly, but after she starts dating Jim Halpert, Toby tries to tell her that he likes her. He unfortunately does this awkwardly and runs off to retire in Costa Rica. A few months later, Toby injures his neck and suddenly SNAPS. Toby goes on a killing-spree and strangles a ton of people and takes on the name “The Scranton Strangler.” His first target being Meredith Palmer’s neighbor, he chose her neighbor to go first because he was George Howard Skub’s brother. He is unfortunately caught by Creed Bratton who doesn’t snitch but holds it over his head. Sabre buys Dunder Mifflin Toby Flenderson gets caught during one of his stranglings and goes on a chase with the Police. He stops at an apartment complex. The entire office watches the News as this unfolds. Toby decides to call his desk to confess to everyone about the killings, his crush on Pam, everything. But Kelly Kapoor hangs up. Toby chose this location for a reason, his wife’s boyfriend who she cheated with lived there. George Howard Skub. He pounds on his door and drags him out in a mask as he somehow gets him arrested and charged. Toby attends the Jury on the case of George Howard Skub who is proven guilty for Toby’s crimes. A few seasons later, he tells Nellie Bertram the whole story. He doesn’t mention that he is the strangler however. He just says that he believes George is not guilty. Toby then goes to the prison where George is held to confront him. He tells George that he was the Strangler and that he framed him, probably adding onto how he took his children away and this was a sort of karma . George snaps and attacks Toby by strangling him. This only makes him seem more like the strangler and is executed at the end of the year.

[@petercameiro7784]

This is the most underrated comment I’ve ever seen. You deserve 35+K likes for this

[@davidervin4853]

Tl;dr

[@thedarkknight9153]

Your knowledge of The Office is fantastic, good sir. Have a like. I wish I had 10,000 to give you.

[@henryvasquez3312]

W o w, this sounds like a million dollar idea. This is so underrated 😭

[@Virilla]

Beautiful

[@curiousme6410]

I MET TOBY AND ASKED HIM IF HE WAS THE SCRANTON STRANGLER. He said “I cannot confirm nor deny this.”

[@exy8423]

Curious Me that still doesn’t change anything

[@CptMcWaffles]

Black Bear

[@coltonhiggins663]

I fucking knew it was him

[@adaptedeye1775]

this is probably false

[@hugowijk3676]

Eyy I just realised I'm gonna watch a comedy show by Creed Bratton in september, if I get the chance I have to ask him who the strangler is

[@randallthescandall7029]

Creed is probably the zodiac killer

[@SirMicahBroch]

Creed is 1000 years old and is probably Jack the Ripper.

[@randallthescandall7029]

Micah Broch he’s probably every serial killer who was never caught

[@sunnymoondog]

Hahaha

[@sethvandeberg6121]

i find the fact that the strangler didnt kill anyone hiliarious

[@sahnwhee]

Wait how do we know that? Does it ever say he doesn't kill anyone? :o

[@sahnwhee]

Ah shit wait forget what I said, I had read your comment and responded to it before watching that part of the vid lol

[@ValensBellator]

Such a Scranton thing, even their serial killers don’t do it right lol

[@ImogeneOctavio]

hes just angry mayn

[@louisharleyaguilar6453]

That crosses out creed

[@joshdodge6482]

I think Creed is more likely a different serial killer so good he hasn’t been caught

[@nineonezeroonethree8188]

Josh Dodge he did mention being caught in a clip in the video and. In the last episode

[@synysterkilljoy2857]

he got arrested in the last episode tho didnt he?

[@bowszr]

And he has been to prison

[@jalyssacaldwell5857]

He did a real life interview and explains it where I think you would be able to know who it is

[@Hiikaa69]

Josh Dodge He got caught twice. He was in jail and stole an identity and he went back to jail at the end.

[@zackhatcher6264]

You missed a fact. In season 8 episode 9, Toby says he always carries his passport for adventure. This is also an easy way for Toby to flee the country if needed

[@mortyexplains]

Great insight!

[@amayathomas4281]

When Creeds list started scrolling I died💀

[@mattslupek7988]

OMG, yes!!

[@RishikavsAnnie]

You became another one of his victims

[@mattslupek7988]

It’s a tight race between him and Mose as my favorite character.

[@lizz5523]

‘steals pancakes’ rad me rolling on the floor 😭😭🤚

[@iamapokerface8992]

stfu

[@kirstenb2359]

Gabe being from Florida is a sole explanation for him being suspecting of serial strangulations to be truthfully

[@cat-mh2wp]

But he was with them when the strangler was on tv

[@mortyexplains]

Florida is where the crazy goes 😂

[@Ry22futbol]

Gabe is truly “Florida man”

[@nikolassmithers4870]

james gilbert west or east coast do you live

[@k9dark10]

and Florida man is the craziest man of them all

[@BWeb]

“My neighbor was murdered” “The strangler doesn’t strangle to death”

[@BloodnightStudios]

I caught this as well

[@erinmalone2669]

I guess it was a different killer for that one. She said “murdered” and not “strangled to death.

[@caitlynmooty5913]

The “you’ll see” line from Toby I feel, is taken out of context. He says there’s asbestos and stuff in the building and it’s a silent killer. Maybe he’s saying “you’ll see” because when they’re older and if they have cancer, maybe they’ll wish they had gutted the building.

[@crystalwolcott4744]

This is also where the "silent killer" line comes from. I know you know, but it's weird that they were both taken out of context.

[@hittingyouoverthehead]

Right, but why look at the camera menacingly for a second before saying those words?

[@WhiteNegative]

@@hittingyouoverthehead if thats menacing to you im sorry but you could be bullied by a toddler

[@xXBarracudaXx]

Yeah it’s out of context. Toby says “We have radon coming below, we have asbestos in the celling. These are silent killers”

[@metallicmaiden409]

@@WhiteNegative ikr! >Toby >Menacing Something doesn't add up

[@yuanxin9264]

Creed’s list is so long that it’s hilarious.

[@Biggases777]

I believe that since the strangler’s car was at Dunder Mifflin at one time, it was George Howard Scub going to meet Toby because he decided to become toby’s accomplice in strangling. But Toby was only using Scub to frame him as the strangler, maybe getting George to take up a strangling job when he knew that authorities were near by looking for the strangler, or Toby could have told the police himself that he saw the stranger (George) near where they found him. Also if creed is too scared or worried to blackmail Toby then that means something.

[@graceblamphin]

aright everybody lets think of ways to think Creed is the Scranton Strangler *he steals pancakes*

[@mortyexplains]

Yeah, well, you steal a thousand pancakes at 50 cents a piece, and, you know, you've made a profit... margin

[@gagewaterhouse4323]

**PanAcakes**

[@MsSnifter]

They’re PAINcakes

[@sharpshades]

If the strangler doesnt kill then the time Meredith talks about the murder wasnt him

[@hylobateslar4151]

His MO might have been developing.

[@camejko]

It could have been accidental death or they didnt recover after passing out

[@juandelrio497]

Maybe he felt guilty after killing his first victim and stopped doing it

[@tyburrows2522]

When you strangle people, pipes in their neck could break leading to death

[@ravenpaw7665]

He doesn't directly kill just more leaves then to die if no one helps them

[@carinabauerdorf290]

"I've stopped caring a long time ago". My all time favorite Creed quote😂😂

[@randalwindex2475]

"the murder is always the person you most middle suspect" -Dwight, on the episode they play the murder mystery game

[@miniman7103]

Gabe

[@AF-gj3cj]

@@miniman7103 or bob vance

[@melissafonteny5538]

so it's Phyllis... Or Bob... Or both !!

[@sherwingonsalves8821]

Cindy from benihana chirstmas?

[@diogomarques9228]

​@@miniman7103 Gabe its perfect its not the Number One suspect but its not the Last suspect

[@haileyhochstetter5361]

It’s not Dwight because he would have strangled Jim at the beginning And if it was Gabe Andy would have been killed

[@TD-ng3bx]

Hailey Hochstetter maybe it’s Trevor?

[@epic9256]

Yep 90% Toby

[@radha4731]

Toby would've strangled Michael, so it's not him. So.. Creed is the Scranton Strangler.

[@gianluca6773]

@@radha4731 creed has the longest criminal record but is the farthest from being the scranton strangler. He is definently a murderer tho.

[@nickclifford806]

no dwight wouldn’t have strangled jim. they are frenemies

[@ZeldaMaster285]

I love that William Charles Schneider is Creed Bratton's actual birth name. He literally transfers his debt to himself

[@toddjohnsoneveningnews8870]

Toby can’t finish things, perhaps why the strangulations never went to death. But I’ve still got a sneaking suspicion that Gabe is the Strangler. But lets not unlearn our lessons from the movie Scream... killers don’t always work alone.

[@dabesaroundnstuff920]

Watch season 6-7 Its 100% toby Waaaay to many hints at it

[@dasher607]

Toby definitely has the most evidence against him but I’ve always liked Gabe as the strangler. He’s just such a creep. I really like the idea that Gabe was too weak to actually strangle someone to death. That’s really funny.

[@KalEl7802]

The strangulations stop after Michael left the office

[@ravenpaw7665]

I believe Toby is as the huge amount of evidence just screams Toby and I think the biggest pieces of evidence for this is the whispers. Toby shares the creep element of Gabe just in a different way. Gabe is very openly creepy and fits the role too and I feel Gabe would be more of a copy cat killer than the one who inspires others. Toby fits the role of the quite white kid perfectly and the video the office KZbin channel also just adds more and more evidence to the overwhelming pile of evidence

[@KalEl7802]

@@ravenpaw7665 It obvious that the show writer is using Toby as the red herring for the real scranton strangler. The real scranton strangler is probably Michael as he was always tormenting people in the show. Another possibility is that Kevin might be the Scranton strangler as he had a low IQ and always making inapprorite comments at the wrong time.

[@noddle045]

That bit from dexter was mind blowing.

[@avyaya6439]

The official office channel released a video about this called 'Making a strangler' and clearly, Toby was focused the most on it. So much that he even made it to the thumbnail.

[@camejko]

My top suspect is toby. Creed is to obvious a choice, a red herring,... Gabe is creepy but doesnt seem to have the motive like toby

[@treehuggerkyle]

nbalive2408 So you’re saying your guess is Toby, because he’s the one you most medium suspect?

[@camejko]

@@treehuggerkyle lol yes

[@bencooper7724]

It’s not Gabe, he is a weirdo for sure but he cries over Erin he’s not exactly a stone cold killer

[@jammy3662]

@Ben Cooper What you’re thinking of is a straight psychopath. A lot of killers have emotions, and cry over things just like the rest of us. Usually it is their sadness and pain that drives them to harm others, so Gabe crying doesn’t necessarily rule him out.

[@jammy3662]

“Creed is to obvious a choice, a red herring,...” What if they were pulling a classic “hide in plain sight” stunt? What if the show’s writers knew we would think Creed was a red herring, and he really was the strangler?

[@gomezfan53]

Why is this only just seconds old and into my video recommendations?

[@hitstickrikk3669]

Literally what happened to me just now and I am very confused

[@giovanniweede1094]

People also complain about old videos in their recommendations WHAT DO YALL WANT?

[@FrightNFight]

Industry plant?

[@gomezfan53]

@@giovanniweede1094 I'm not complaining at all and also I love when KZbin puts old videos into my recommendations

[@jackashmore]

KZbin got it right finally, now go enjoy a video of a frog named mr.pickles that was uploaded 7 years ago

[@thomaslemeliner2491]

A small detail to keep in mind: Tobi likes/want to get some attention (last episodes, at the conference, he clearly say his life will be "meaningless" without the cameras), I think this is a thing we hear a lot when talking about serial killers

[@jimhalpert9728]

u spelled toby wrong lol

[@JosephFlores-yn4yi]

Or maybe he just has a boring life?

[@sagenight3]

One thing about the "strangler doesnt kill" is that it was never mentioned in the show but also why would he be on death row. And this would also mean meredith's neighborhood's murder could not be the stangler

[@JotaC]

Multiple attempt murders can also send someone to death row, specially if it is an Heinous Crime

[@ravenpaw7665]

I believe the strangler likes the idea of making them suffer and dragging out the deaths. If he were to Stab his victims he would tie their legs together and pin them to the wall with knives in their hands. He wouldn't be the one to add the final hit, he would let nature run its course and let them suffer. Strangulation allows him to not only fulfill his creepish pleasures but also either wound them for life or be the indirect cause of their death. The man convicted for the murder could have been the one calling Toby wanting to insult him and threaten him for framing him. I believe Toby would be the type to have lots of dirt on people and so he was blackmailing scub and when scub didn't follow through with something Toby wanted, well, we see that. If Scub was the real strangler then we wouldn't have Toby in the condition he was in during the finale, we either wouldn't have him or we would have a Toby unable to move his neck.

[@menoguchi]

While the comments above make total sense (nice theories!), I just find hilarious that he doesn't kill. I think there wasn't a real reasoning as to why he got a death row - it was convenient for the plot, and it's a sitcom. Rules don't apply. In fact, it makes the whole situation ten times funnier.

[@10n0]

I'm by no means a lawyer, but I would imagine 3 or 4 cases of attempted murder could land you the death penalty in the right state

[@longdong3972]

search "Bamamaman" on YT and enjoy Not In Pennsylvania though, they have the death penalty but never execute, and rarely send people to death row.

[@beatqueenofcrud]

When listing Dwight's qualities, you forgot to mention that time in Season 8, who after Toby states " strangling people is not a violation of the code of conduct", Says "Oh, I could have strangled so many people to death by now"

[@mortyexplains]

Ah man great call !

[@cheersen]

In the episode “conflict resolution” Toby had to check the handbook for all sorts of problems to dispute. It seems strange that he immediately knew that strangling wasn’t a violation of the code of conduct. To know that something is not in a certain book (like there is no rule about strangling) he’d have to know the handbook inside out. And he didn’t. The conclusion being that he just knew (or focused on) an awful lot about strangling.

[@manuelfiuza6440]

@@cheersen I see that just as something that wasn't recorded well, Dwight knowing the code is something that could be part of his character

[@cheersen]

@@manuelfiuza6440 my bad, I was talking about toby

[@matthewdevilliers871]

You know what I always found weird...is that when the police came to the office when Michael put the "drugs" in Toby desk to frame him he was very defensive around the policeman like he didn't want them near his desk and for someone who's always abiding to the rules it was out of character

[@HoodieSardine]

I mean realistically, Toby is in HR, knowing the laws of employees he knows that the cops can’t search without probable cause, he didn’t know the probable cause and so he got defensive. But disregard everything I said, I bet the show writers wanted him to be the Scranton strangler

[@antiChinazi]

he could have hentai pictures like Stanley in the drawers😂 there could be many reasons one doesn’t others to look into their drawers

[@pastaboi9756]

M:Scranton O:strangler S: E:

[@chada4806]

Shit, you right

[@ouroboros5793]

It's always the person you most MEDIUM suspect............

[@Captain_Neckbeard]

Truth. I mean most serial killers turned out to be people no one expected.

[@benjamind.4790]

True. It’s obviously Robert or Creed, so definitely not them. Certainly not Gabe or Dwight, so they’re out. That leaves us with Toby, the one we most medium suspect. Maybe the show was giving us a clue through that quote.

[@spaceloser3016]

So, Phyllis then?

[@amqstu]

The Toby theory is actually so believable 😂

[@Lubbock112]

I feel like we’re forgetting about George Howard Scub

[@FleetwoodDevelopments]

"That's a devil name"

[@incognitoguy63626]

The official office channel posted a video called “making a strangler” and there’s a picture of Toby in the thumbnail and the entire video is just clips of Toby and the mentioning of the Scranton Strangler.

[@anniehuang6321]

Natsuki I thought it wasn’t official but the people in charge of the official Office just granted rights to the person in charge of that channel? Edit: yeah, I checked and they aren’t the official official channel but the dude just has the rights to make clips of the show and wasn’t in charge of the production of the show. Also, Toby isn’t the strangler for sure. They said so in an interview. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYPVooN5nL6kabM

[@charbert5692]

if it were toby he would have strangeled micheal

[@cockandballtorture9433]

@@charbert5692 nah that would be too obvious

[@YCt37689]

Some other notable moments are when Toby climbed over the gate when everyone got locked in the office (after putting his hand on Pam's leg) and when, during Pam's wedding, he confessed to feeling guilty in church. Shortly afterwards he talks about doing anything to feel good and that he would "chase that feeling". So let's say the Scranton strangler started earlier than season 6, around the time Jim and Pam got together (which notably Toby was in denial about for a while) and then really took off after they got married and then had Cece. All of this would point to Toby finding a way to take out his emotions about Pam.

[@bobbobert9379]

Yes. It's Toby trying to release his emotions over his rage at how his life hasn't gone his way. His divorce, working for a man who hates him, his unrequited love for Pam and subsequent embarrassment, his attempt to flee it all stiffled by a neck injury, and punctuate by Pam marrying Jim and having a baby with him. Strangulation is a crime of passion. Toby is full of passion and emotion but must keep it inside because he's the hr rep. Strangulation is how he lets it out.

[@thisisEHAM]

I never considered how it could be Gabe.

[@dabesaroundnstuff920]

But its not... not even close

[@Benthepigg]

"Only reason i pay for netflix" Uh oh

[@mortyexplains]

😬

[@Sleepygarr]

@@mortyexplains just by a box set

[@cadennitcher3191]

If this was true you’d think the video would be a little better. There’s a few flaws in his reasons on each...

[@danny_racho]

@@wbwbc89 You kiddin??? It's literally 0:03

[@sketchypunch8802]

U missed one: Danny Courdrey Think about it he was in a movie with Steve Carell where he was a killer. Meredith says “did u see the drawings he looks goodddd” and danny courdrey was the guy who everyone thought looked handsome. He also showed up in the right time line and he’s a traveling salesman so no one would no. That would also explain the car in the parking lot.

[@alittlebitofeverything2050]

This is a good theory never thought of him

[@zacherymahoney12]

Pam said toby looked cute. And he’s really not a bad looking guy and maredith hits on anyone. Her standards cant be trusted. Love the scanton strangler theories. Never heard the gabe one. I think its obviously toby. People just dont want it to be that simple.

[@richl9810]

it's 100% Ryan, the only true psychopath on the show

[@02baby_]

Let’s not forget about Jan now

[@user-fz9vk4js5l]

Isaac Rico Michael definitely isn’t a sociopath, I’m not psychologist but he does seem narcissistic to me

[@tay-sw5wh]

Pray for Liverpool agreed def not sociopathy but yes to narcissistic personality disorder

[@GiltleyRage]

@@tay-sw5wh The thing is The Office characters are so overcomplicated and over the top for the sake of comedy, it's really hard to label them in any way. Most of the time Michael is acting like a textbook narcissist, but sometimes he's this sweet selfless guy with pure empathy, genuine care, and kindness. He is mostly a moron without any clue, but occasionally a self-aware genius. Dwight is another example. You may think he suffers from some wariaty of autism, as he seems not to understand basic social conventions, but then again when he wants, he can get very subtle social cues and communicate just fine. It's hard not to analyze them this way, but I think the writers wanted us to think of them as just weirdos, who chose to be the way they are, rather than mentally ill or disordered individuals.

[@jesseclark5815]

Creed isn’t a psychopath?

[@aidansage5377]

Why is this video 9 minutes long... all you had do to was say Gabe is from Florida.

[@vndrew784]

I'd like to add one man into the equation and take another out. I can't see any way that Dwight was the strangler. He is so protective of his co-workers and I can't think of why Dwight would kill anyone anyway. Bob Vance on the other hand? Very possible. There was the scene when Phyllis said she'd get Bob involved and then said "I've said too much". Bob is also known for beating up guys in bars, and I wouldn't be shocked if his refrigeration company is actually a front for something else. What if people found out about Bob's shady business, Bob found out they knew so he strangled them. However, I find it very hard to believe a man that paid $1,000 at an auction for a hug from his wife could possibly be a serial killer. There's no denying that Robert California was a very strange man. That being said, while I wouldn't be shocked if he turned out he was a criminal, I don't think he would be a murderer. Although the comment about liking choking during sex does raise suspicion. Creed - like many other people in the comments, I agree that he has probably killed someone, but he's not the strangler. Definitely committed a lot of other crimes though. And now we get on to the two most likely suspects - Gabe & Toby. Toby's obsession with the case and believing he'd put away an innocent man directs suspicion to him. His sudden obsession with crime novels in the later seasons also sets off alarm bells. Toby also comes across as detached from life and very depressed. However, the biggest piece of evidence for Toby being the strangler is the fact that during the chase for the strangler, everyone was in the office except Toby, and the car was the same model as the one he drives. However, the guy in the car got caught, and it wasn't Toby who got caught. He also seems too nice a guy to be a serial killer - he cares about his Daughter a lot and wants things done right in Dunder Mifflin. So all things considered, I don't think it was Toby - but if we ever did find out that it actually was him, there's enough evidence that I wouldn't be shocked. This leaves only Gabe - the man I am convinced is the Scranton strangler. The strangler only starts being heard about when Gabe shows up. Gabe comes across as very creepy, insecure and just... off. He is mocked by the rest of the staff and strongly disliked by the majority of them. I'm not actually convinced Erin ever liked him I just think she was so nice she didn't want to upset him, until eventually she was honest with him. Gabe is also into a lot of gore and violence and has an obsession with samurai swords and other weapons. He shows completely that he is a bit of a psychopath after Erin and Andy get together. He just generally seems a bit unstable. You could argue that Gabe wasn't physically strong enough to kill someone - but like Paul said, the strangler didn't kill anyone there and then, they just died once the strangler left. There's one other issue - while Gabe was in the office when the police chase was going on, he was also trying to get everyone to get back to their work and stay away from the case. So it's close between Toby and Gabe, but Gabe just edges it for me. So yeah, in my opinion, the Scranton strangler was Gabe.

[@justjossgk3438]

I did see one comment said something about George Howard scrub being a apprentice to toby

[@allisonjaye13]

i know it’s not Creed because the strangler doesn’t actually kill people. Creed would follow through, he knows what he’s doing

[@tavadaardendrian319]

Yeah, but I feel like you wouldn’t get on death row only for attempted murder. I’m no legal expert, so who knows

[@aurumarma5711]

No questions left unanswered. But have all the answers been questioned?

[@chapsticker]

astute

[@saltyoceanart2528]

I think it’s Roy! He’s aggressive and has a dui

[@treehuggerkyle]

And what is a “question” anyway? 🤔🤷‍♂️

[@evilwizardz]

when this guy says toby saying "you will see" as evidence is pretty dumb because toby was referring to the radon which is a "silent killer"

[@jadedesy4234]

Im sorry I just have to say the amount of work and effort that was put into this is just amazing I can't believe how amazing this is I rly enjoyed watching this it was mind blowing thanks for making this

[@lajjiggyjarjardoodurdurdur9607]

Season 8 Episode 10) Toby says something about how you can plant false fingerprints with a severed hand

[@evajeannine4674]

La Jjiggy Jar Jar Doo Dur Dur Dur Dee Dur : George Howard Skub would have needed both hands to strangle Toby

[@mortyexplains]

You just wanted to type out that username, right?

[@kinsleycow148]

La Jjiggy Jar Jar Doo Dur Dur Dur Dee Dur, god that's a funny thing to imagine: using severed hands to strangled someone.

[@uriisten2166]

Just watched your video of miscoceptions yesterday and I'm glad ya put out this one.

[@futuristicpogi6654]

Uriisten same here, very interesting...🤔

[@swatteam93]

futuristic pogi 3rd 😂

[@ThePsh07]

0:03 That aged poorly. RIP The Office on Netflix.

[@justjoannak]

Agreed 😢

[@SierrasCoolChannel]

The long ass list for how creepy Creed is 😂😂

[@mattslupek7988]

YES!! That’s the best part of the video...by far!!

[@timeismichael]

I just searched this up, and here's your video made 12 minutes ago

[@spencersmith7263]

timeismichael I feel like this happened to an abnormal amount of people. Did we all really have the same thought within the same hour or so

[@reilly8561]

Spencer Smith yeah and I only saw his 7 month old office video yesterday

[@gc0644]

mhm

[@JohnDoe-nj8vr]

Beefalo Boy same here saw the 8 month old video today then this came out just a lil ago

[@BigMoneyLiz]

I did this before it existed today and now here it is!

[@jordanschoenenberger4397]

Why are we ignoring Ryan, he's a huge sociopath, he's one of the two people absent during the police chase, and he's the first one to know, but not out right say what case toby is talking about.

[@iamapokerface8992]

why huge sociopath

[@MasterAssasin1000]

Ryan just feels like the generic podcast guy trying to sell "Become millionaire" class/book, and very bad bussines ideas. He is a huge sociopath, but the worst thing he could do it's a very bad organizated Ponzi/Piramidal scam, not even getting started due to his lack of charisma.

[@mortyexplains]

I am in awe of how much you all know about The Office and it is a pleasure to interact with so many Office super fans, thank you so much for watching and for your feedback! EDIT: dang it, just realized I wrote "panacakes" 😝

[@Christian-mi5cl]

chadnisha what happened

[@sharkeyswrld]

Nahhhh I swear he’s talked ab earlier

[@Am_Ende]

Where do you got the 3D-office roomplan from?

[@mortyexplains]

@@Am_Ende I put the link in the description, it's so cool!

[@Am_Ende]

@@mortyexplains thank you very much

[@syrialeticia51]

the dexter reference gave me a headache only by thinking about how much research you had to make just for this video

[@lycandemon6167]

"To my chickens I'm the Scranton Strangler" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@everettburgin9958]

bruh why does ur mic sound different every time u go to a new sentence

[@mortyexplains]

Sorry about that!

[@hose982]

Just remember that Dwight shot his deceased aunt with a shotgun in "The Farm" without hesitation and didn't even flinch, that's killer attitude

[@mortyexplains]

That's a great point, missed that one

[@beam8572]

ya but the strangler did'nt kill anyone, just strangled them

[@manifestedevile1835]

I mean they do that to make sure their family is already dead. Seeing as it's a long been family tradition for his family, none of them seemed to have been bothered by it.

[@sirisongbird]

Nawww that's just Shrute tradition

[@tylerlashway2892]

The strangler doesn’t kill though.

[@Sasha-sk5ke]

Remember that episode from the office were Jim and Michael were co/-managing the branch and they knew that there was going to be downsizing so Michael made the office play a game to take their minds off of it. That games goal was to find out who the murderer is and Dwight got it right. He said that the murderer is never someone you most expect, it’s also never the one you least expect. It’s always the one you middle expect. I couldn’t agree more

[@paolasoto9261]

In that case is Gabe lol

[@Sasha-sk5ke]

@@paolasoto9261 no offense to gabe, but that man couldn't hurt a fly, even of he wanted to. lol

[@vincentistria5495]

I just watched The Office for the first time (I know, late to this party). The weird thing is that I already knew about the "Toby is the strangler" theory, so I was really looking out for clues. Now, I don't know anymore ! For instance, the first time we hear about Toby's writing is when Jo checks his computer to find out if he's the maul. She confronts him about it, and he immediatly confesses that he writes crime novels. It's only after that that he starts referring to his books on a regular basis. But the thing is... He looks worried (I know, he always kinda does) when Jo talks about this text on his computer. What if it was actually his journal ? We know the prose is about a nobleman who falls in love with a "simple maid". What if this is how he sees himself and Pam ? After all, even if he has a crush on Pam, he never admired her, and this writing could be his outlet. If he confesses his crimes in it, he would need to make up a cover story on the spot, in front of Joe. Then, getting caught in his own lie (which is a classic The Office situation), he kept writing more crime-fiction. Even though he had no intent to in the first place. Another thing to corroborate the fact that Toby didn't actually care that much for crime fiction in the beginning : in an episode, Michael tried to lure Toby out of the office by putting a few good crime novels in Toby's way to work. But that doesn't work at all : Toby shows up immediatly after that. He couldn't care less about the books. So I guess he did frame the guy who enventually got judged as the strangler. But I don't think this guy was completly innocent either : maybe he strangled someone, for unrelated reasons, and Toby saw an opportunity to frame him. Afterwards, he realised that he tricked someone a bit like him, another strangler... And that's why he felt guilty. When he goes to see him in prison, he says that he hopes to finally find a "real friend" (is that the exact words he used ? Can't remember). But when he told this guy that he was the real strangler, it went south. Then, Creed certainly is shady... What if it was a bit of both ? Maybe Toby was investigating the case. Creed realising his coworker was onto him, he framed someone else. If you look at the evidences against Toby, you realize they all could be explained by Toby investigating the Strangler case, without him having to be guilty himself.

[@miltonkennedy8013]

Sò Corsi And remember the “travel” to Costa Rica pretty rare destiny for someone like Toby. Maybe this could be a Clue Oh! And Toby really knows how to jump a high fence, remember when he touched pam’s leg Coincide? I do not know thing so?

[@BaconPeach]

I haven't really watched The Office thoroughly, but I wonder if it's supposed to be like 'Bad Luck Brian' for Toby. He is just a nice and compassionate guy who tries to personally reach out to the suspect, but Toby is met with the misfortune of the inmate really being the Strangler (cause that's just how Toby's luck runs! He could be the sweetest guy around and the world just takes a massive dump on him). To my limited knowledge, I think it fits the theme of Toby's character better that way. He's just a normal guy who can't catch a break. But I could be wrong. On a side note, how Michael treats him makes me cringe and I genuinely feel bad for Toby a lot (like pushing the lunch tray off the table when Toby was actually trying to comfort Michael. Though I will admit the 'Noooo!' is funny).

[@jimhalpert9728]

WTF? How long did this take you?

[@BeerCityBandit]

Whooooooa! Crazy good eye with the Dexter tie in. Like how perfect is that? Lol.

[@jessegilbert9568]

My guess is he read it somewhere else on the internet and isn't giving credit as if he just happened to notice that the printer in dexter is a Sabre printer seeing as in the guys own video the image is so fucking terrible it could just be a logo of Ted Cruz fucking himself in the ass with an actual sabre. Also, the Creed stuff is just a bunch of bullshit that this guy added because he thought it helped his case, but it's mostly from deleted scenes which means it isn't cannon and therefore doesn't count.

[@dabesaroundnstuff920]

Sabre has nothing to do with this case. So either way. Idc

[@jaredjones8114]

Jesse Gilbert actually you can look this up, the show runners and writers said that in there mind all deleted scenes happened and are “canon”

[@345Jared]

Jesse Gilbert he doesn’t have to give credit to someone for stating that Sabre was on the printer. It’s virtually impossible to give someone credit for that. It’s not like he claimed he was the first person who found it anyway, literally your entire paragraph was wrong and bs

[@belagatcomb1893]

I'm genuinely curious about what kind of criminal Creed would be labeled as and I wonder how much jailtime someone would face for all of that

[@BranDoesThings]

The Scranton Strangler is Dennis Reynolds. It’s the only logical conclusion.

[@ericl9738]

Instead of the long list of evidence for Creed, you could’ve just said “he’s Creed” 😂 But for real, nice video!

[@ghostopss111]

hmm whilst it could be in creeds character i think most of it was just for comic relief plus as he is elderly it would be easier to defend yourself against someone like creed who is "75+ division" than a toby who is maybe in the mid 40s during the show

[@arieson7715]

@@ghostopss111 DUMBASS, HE'S 30

[@barackobama6715]

I was expecting Mose, given his obvious insanity and also (presumably) physical capability to do so.

[@benjamingonzalez5282]

Creed couldn’t have done it if he had blood on him. The Scranton strangler doesn’t spill blood

[@simonster-9094]

Perhaps not in his strangling business, but during other "casualties"

[@WinterFrost-wf8ym]

What If the guy fought back that Creed had to do something else other than strangling

[@AssociationAdmirer]

@@simonster-9094 Also, if he started strangling someone who was sick, they might have coughed up blood all over him.

[@kaileegirl1785]

If the strangler wasn't a killer, why would he be on death row? Didn't Toby mention that he felt guilty about sending a possibly innocent man to his death?

[@bencooper7724]

Kailee Girl “A man is being put to death and I’m not so sure he’s guilty” -Toby at the Dundies

[@Vitoria-ji6tq]

maybe because there were many victims, I don't know

[@AReineyMay]

Multiple attempted murders?

[@ChimneyMan27]

Don't forget when Toby comes back from Costa Rica, Michael mentions something about Scream 2 and that's the episode where Toby says "You'll be Sorry."

[@gucci_meme4250]

I never realized how dark creeds character was

[@neptunesubliminals532]

gucci_meme same

[@lemonycatapult7300]

How did you not notice, it’s literally his entire character

[@justsomeguy2743]

Lemony Catapult most people think he’s just lost his mind and don’t think too much into to it untill it’s show to them

[@arvy7765]

@@gucci_meme4250 What the fuck is wrong with you

[@cadenmighty7018]

it’s funny cause i just watched your plot hole video and saw that you hadn’t posted this video yet and now you have lol

[@kateheinzen9093]

caden mighty me to!

[@rachelhill2335]

This video was posted as I was watching the other one that came out 8 months ago so I was very weirded out lol

[@RetroGamerTy]

Same! Is this not crazy 😜

[@goinggaga4ladygaga]

Same, I was searching for this video last night. Thinking it had already been posted. Do do dodo, do do dodo twilight zone

[@staircaseofkneecaps783]

Same. How weird is that

[@jennyli9012]

I think there's multiple serial killers in Dunder Mifflin, but the Strangler is definitely Toby.

[@streetfood7568]

I think Toby went to the prison and strangled himself in order to strengthen the frame job. Sure, it would have hurt, but he’s an experienced strangler, so he’s definitely be able to do it.

[@mortyexplains]

Oh wow I like this theory !

[@ceylonicus6821]

LOL !

[@alittlebitofeverything2050]

Exactly! I was thinking this ngl. Like how in the hell was the strangler able to get a hold of him? Hes a criminal known for attacking he would have been handcuffed to the table or restrained in some way. Especially for visitors and such it's usually between a glass.

[@jimhalpert9728]

no because there was guards there and they would have seen it.

[@QuestionmarkGuru]

Just watched your plot hole video today and now you upload another one... What are the odds lol. Good stuff man I do like your vids

[@sophiapiper4978]

THE FIRST PIECE OF EVIDENCE FOR CREED IS "STEALS PANCAKES" IM CRYING

[@patrickoneill2455]

I love that office animation at the end. I've always wanted to get a good layout of the office, but never could. Now I have one. Thanks!

[@mortyexplains]

So welcome !

[@PrivateSuddz]

Strangler couldn't have been in season 5 if he didn't actually kill anyone according to the clip at 3:39

[@lei23to79]

Ohhhh cuz merideth said that her neighbor got murderdin season 5

[@presleytheward]

Dwight also states whenever Toby mentions that there is no rule about strangling in the employee handbook that he could’ve strangled many people by now

[@anthonynasti1783]

I think Andy should be considered as well. He's shown to be manipulative and prone to irrational clinical anger, plus in season 9 he's just a flat out sociopath.

[@whiteNnerdyINC]

keep truckin’ 💀⚡️

[@rickmorty2171]

and he goes away on his boat for months... maybe to flee? never though about andy

[@addison4597]

But he’s there for Cece’s birth

[@AssociationAdmirer]

@@rickmorty2171 How could that have been fleeing? He told people where he was going.

[@coolkidfrank123]

You forgot to mention how toby can't even walk into a church cause of some demons he's fighting

[@NathanWhite22]

no... Toby can’t enter the church because he left the seminary just so he could have sex with his ex wife (before they were married). He feels guilty because of that. He is also divorced. He also feels as if god has dealt him an unfair hand in life. Weak point.

[@coolkidfrank123]

@@NathanWhite22lmao I think it might have to do with how he's an alcoholic

[@para-yw9dn]

@@coolkidfrank123 no it was because he left the church for wife and feels bad like the other comment said

[@oliverpierce5118]

best ever he left seminary

[@dabesaroundnstuff920]

@@NathanWhite22 its more than that.. its sex. Toby was dedicated to that life, he can obviously conclude that sex with a woman he loved isnt whats bothering him dumbo. Watch the show attentively and youll realise has a allot of thoughts in that fucked up head

[@gardenlover9663]

The comments you showed were not mixed. 😆 I appreciate the work you put into this stuff. And I know you are having a good time. And that's all that matters.

[@trenchie06]

Mose is one of my favorite characters, the way he runs, looks, talks, is just hilarious

[@David-qf2ts]

He’s one of the writers of the office

[@jimhalpert9728]

his run though lol

[@bluecheese4560]

For me it’s Mose, Creed, Toby, Michel, Bob Vance Vance Refrigeration, and Meridith

[@melteague117]

Harvard graduate and writer on the show!

[@ClaraMercury]

That’s me with creed

[@UnclePalpy]

“I’m the fucking Lizard King.” My favourite quote from the show.

[@Springsdaisy]

I think your videos are very well made and entertaining. Thank you for sharing.

[@michaelcrippen9234]

My favorite quote of all time..."Bears, beets...Battlestar Galactica"