The Old Heads Were JUNK… We Replaced Them With TRICK FLOW CNC Heads!

[@JAMSIONLINE]

Huge shoutout to Trick Flow Specialties for helping us out on this build! Be sure to check out everything they have to offer here: www.trickflow.com Also a huge thanks to @enginerehab for taking the time to come and join the discussion!

[@Cookie-Dough-Dynamo]

Those of you that aren't machinists have no idea how bad ass that hand deburr was. To do that without the cutter getting hung up, AT THAT SPEED, is insane.

[@Dave5843-d9m]

For the de-burr guy to get that good , the company must be selling A LOT of heads.

[@rc-daily]

Dude has probably done thousands of heads

[@robertwest3093]

I AM a machinist and it very much impressed me 😮

[@gmcman355crazy]

Cnc machinist by day and I'll second this . That deburing was absolutely insane and learned from making many many many heads in his career

[@broheim23]

I'm not a professional machinist ('lectrician by trade), but I do have a few manual machines (I have enough experience to consider myself an entry-level hobby machinist), and I was absolutely floored at how quick (and accurate, I assume) the tech was with that die grinder!!! Talk about skill!!! 👍

[@ScannerDanner]

I wait in anticipation like the rest of you! I have no idea what was done. Really looking forward to this one!

[@Sunspot-19]

Mhmmm!! Anticipation, there's a reason Jim has the Heinz bottle in the shop. A bloody teaser for folks like you, patiently (impatiently) anticipating that first drive with this unique 383!!

[@ScannerDanner]

@@Sunspot-19 I promise to bring it to you guys!

[@tdotw77]

WOW Scanner Danner you got the hook up going on here! I'm guessing by your multiple(8 -10) comments on this video alone that you're pretty damn happy & excited with the progress coming along well. Can't wait to see this back in the Ramcharger flying down the road - or standing still spinning the tires off the rims! 👍🏻👌🏻⚡💥💨💨🚚🚛🚦🛢️⛽🛑🚧

[@JeffKopis]

Your wallet shall be empty, but your truck shall be fast!

[@haasknuckles6795]

I actually worked for Rottler Mfg and designed cylinder head clamping attachments for the Rottler SG10XY for Trickflow to accomodate about 10 different Trickflow cylinder heads.

[@ScannerDanner]

This episode was so good! My favorite so far, in part because we are seeing it come together and also all the nerdy stuff just speaks to me. 😂 Nic, you were so wise to bring Josh in! What a wealth of information he is, well spoken, easy to follow and clearly knows his s***. Thank you both so much for taking such good care of me. This whole project is the coolest thing ever. I feel blessed.

[@codo7]

This is so interesting for me. I see JAMSI, Scanner Danner and Trick Flow come together before my eyes as entertainment and science lesson both. At that, their businesses complement each other. The relationship of KZbin viewers to this event is valuable to all three parties. This sort of affair can never have come about when I was a youth. This internet is a fantastic affair! I hope that cut out in the cylinder bore for the valves is OK.

[@ScannerDanner]

I agree and I really didn't see how truly awesome this was going to be going into this. Blessed to be the recipient of this soon to be bad ass engine too! Glad you're here and following along!

[@Robalo-2660]

I spent 3 grand on a set of ZL1 heads back in 1972 . Got the whole 9 yards, but these heads you had built put mine to shame. That was a lot of money back then. Trick flow heads are a steal, I wish they were available when I was running.

[@olduhfguy]

NIce presentation by TF and JAMS. Nice when 2 machinists are happy with the other's work.

[@ScannerDanner]

100%

[@sc5015]

Gotta give you credit for the production quality you have now achieved, you have come a long way from your first videos!

[@ab2230]

Dropped into comments to upvote what I knew would be here -- I just watched 45 min without skipping or 2x and honestly was in that video space as if this was lord of the rings or something.

[@ScannerDanner]

@@ab2230 haha me too! But it is mine, so I did have to wipe my mouth a bit from the drool

[@yarrdayarrdayarrda]

Just recently we had a 494 BBM on the dyno that made decent numbers for a street pump gas engine 600+ torque/500+ HP but after our requisite post dyno compression test I had some variances I didn't like. I did a leakdown test and had 3 cylinders that had about 30% sealing (yikes!!) with most of the leakage going to the exhaust. This was a typical "offshore" aluminum head. We pulled the heads and recut the seats and the seat runout was horrible on several of the valve seats. Upon reinstallation it picked up 12 to 15 numbers across the board. That was a big financial hit on something that is sold to the public as a "bolt on" item. Enraging that shops have to spend money on "quality control" that can't be billed to the customer. We've used a couple of sets of the TFS BBM heads, and they are very nice.

[@ScannerDanner]

that is good info to share, knowing what not to buy for others, thanks!

[@DavidBall-v5i]

Thanks Trick Flow!!! Enjoyed the content. You guys Rock!!!🇺🇲👍

[@ScannerDanner]

32:17 impressive Josh, for real, that's pretty bad ass that you just visualized .030 and were right!

[@sirmister4411]

No mention of the Harland Sharp rockers. Good rockers been using them since the 80s. A great in depth video. Great info on spring and retainer application and weight savings benefits Thanks

[@ScannerDanner]

34:13 I'm definitely excited!! This is way more than I could have ever asked for.

[@LarryBunch-q7j]

This build is very cool! Hope we get to see this Engine run on a stand when done!

[@robertoruiz7069]

Watching your video was a pleasure.It's always nice to see when people care about the quality of thier WORKMANSHIP. Accuracy as in size and fit,and close tolerances.Also cleanliness of parts and work-space.It's like watching a batch of milk,when you can see the cream rise to the top of the tank.thanks guys.

[@rona1144]

This was an exceptionally interesting video. I recently bought a set of trickflow heads for my future replacement motor. I knew they were really good, after these explanations I appreciate them even more. This was a great collaboration, thanks.

[@larrywarner9314]

I bought a set of Brodix track ll heads and paid a pretty penny for them and I always put water with food coloring mixed together and dump into the exhaust and intake ports and they leaked rite out of the box , for $2800 I was a very pissed off customer I called them 20 plus times just to get them on the phone and the guy I talked to told me that's what I get for $2800 so I'll never buy that brand again, I took them to a race shop to have them fixed and changed the valves they told me they should have never been boxed up and shipped !!

[@stephenpoe2037]

Excellent follow up video ! I am a Mopar guy but the cost has forced me to go to the poor mans brand ! So Chevrolet it is ! Never should have sold my Hemi Barracuda ! Thanks for sharing !

[@jacobkarns2025]

I'm really enjoying this build, especially all the details you're explaining.

[@tonkinvideo8186]

Shoutout the Adam! Makes it look easy, expert for sure

[@paulcooper9011]

Nice video. About the short turn on the original heads, mentioned around 22:50. I recall a Toyota discovery that having an angled intake port caused a lot of air swirl in the cylinder and massively increased efficiency. Looking at the original heads those intake ports seem to have quite an angle to them and maybe that's why they made good power despite the short turn.

[@tdotw77]

Preet cool video today with TrickFlow! I just watched @Daves Auto video about heads & how hes fixing up brand new aftermarket manufacturerd 6.4L powerstroke heads and how they need to be checked & 'fixedç right out of the box. Now im on your video wathing a much higher end manufacturer billet aluminum full CNC machine heads being put together! Must be 'head day' on the channels today! Anyways lookin good & @SD is getting excited along with all of us along for the ride. Lets see this thing breath some air, & come to life shooting fire!👍🏻👌🏻⚡💥💨💨⛽🛢️🚦🚛🚚🚧🛑🤔

[@tdotw77]

16:42 It's funny that you mention how bad the diesel heads are... that's the same thing Dave had said in that last video I just watched. I guess it is in fact a common issue with the aftermarket diesel head\machine work.

[@tdotw77]

32:22 @CEE used a real yellow 'banana' micrometer in their last video on Friday too. What's going on with the banana 🍌📏 measurements these days? 🤔🍌📏🍌📏🤦🏻‍♂️

[@ScannerDanner]

❤

[@Mothermopar426]

Love this. I can't wait to see a 426 hemi build 😈

[@JAMSIONLINE]

Maybe someday! lol

[@bcbloc02]

Those trick flows sure are nice!

[@aerialrescuesolutions3277]

This video was full of great info. I do love a high-quality product. Thank you both. I love the teaser at the end too,

[@ScannerDanner]

me too! Thought it was blood for a second lol. It's now a TV show I want to set reminders for.

[@JimmyMakingitwork]

Paul (ScannerDanner) is gonna be in the same boat I'm in, which is can the transmission handle the new power plant. Haha Gonna be awesome!

[@EngineRehab]

It wont.

[@ScannerDanner]

​@@EngineRehabit should be okay 😅 it's a manual 4 speed (NP435) that is supposed to be bullet proof. Guess we will see

[@EngineRehab]

@@ScannerDannerhaha I wouldn’t actually know.

[@JC-gw3yo]

Incredible.. Seems to me it would be silly to use the factory heads on the big block Dodge. What a major update and improvement

[@stephencooper5040]

This was excellent, definitely love the nerd stuff. Well done brother.

[@oligoon]

8v heads are so old skool - but love the attention to detail on these - beautiful piece of engineering

[@nextechsolutions5955]

Dream Team, can see y’all building custom engines for top-shelf restomods far into the future.

[@gregsidel3557]

I want to thank you and your dad and specially Josh for this video it's been very very educating and enlightening on what person needs to know when there is interested as I am thank you so much for this video and again get the dino the other tool.

[@MyWillypilly]

The finish on those look top notch.

[@jeffhopper3526]

Budget, not satisfied with boxed Holleys, is how Barry Grant got started. He modified the heck out of Holleys trying to improve them. All started with a big block Chevelle in his one car garage. Eventually he quit his day job.

[@ScannerDanner]

24:10 awesome story of how you got into this Josh! Love this

[@EngineRehab]

It’s so much more interesting but I’m sure it’s the same way many other people got involved.

[@jcnpresser]

Hope y’all fire this engine up and put it on a dyno, you have to!

[@ScannerDanner]

agree!

[@tuberNunya]

EXCELLENT! Thank you very much. I was hearing about this stuff years ago and it all sounded very arcane but I could grasp the benefit of flow, so now I have been enlightened.

[@JAMSIONLINE]

Glad it was helpful!

[@dalewier9735]

Men, i don't know that much about proformance engines but heads like this for $3,000 with profomance springs, and valves installed so that it bolts right on (without additional modification to fit) the block of choice seems like a hell of a price.

[@Torquemonster440]

Jaime is Definitely a ... BLACK SABBATH fan !! 🤘🤘 .. close guess on the Beatles. ... Also, really looking forward to the progress on this build. Very cool. 👍

[@Carl_Jr]

Thank you. If someone else didn't already say it I was going to. 😂

[@Torquemonster440]

@@Carl_Jr .. yep, my music snob ocd kicked into overdrive.. 😂

[@Panhead49EL]

Ha, same. Before his time. Or ingenious engagement tactic.

[@Carl_Jr]

@@Panhead49EL Hey. At least he knows who the Beatles are, though. Just not what they look like. 🤣

[@maestromecanico597]

Excellent! And nice to see the Cleaning Guy make a cameo at the end there.

[@docholliday6635]

Cant wait to see y'all fire it up...gonna be insane...

[@JAMSIONLINE]

Me neither...

[@ScannerDanner]

@@JAMSIONLINE are we planning dyno runs?

[@dougdecker1261]

@EngineRehab jamsi is my neighbor and when I watch you on here, I'm impressed. Bring this professionalism to your channel.

[@EngineRehab]

After many years of having to put on my professional face every day, I’m happy that I’m in a position where I can choose to be silly and nonchalant.

[@dougdecker1261]

@EngineRehab silly and nonchalant is fine. I'd watch this version of you all day. 🤝

[@EngineRehab]

@@dougdecker1261 get you someone who can do both!

[@logancarter2134]

Wow, crazy amount of information in this episode. Interesting! Thanks!

[@ScannerDanner]

right? I felt like I was in class!

[@Dave-gf3kd]

What an awesome video! Fascinating and Educational!!!! Thnx!

[@mikebrown4429]

Super informative in every way. I’m building a AMC 360 for my 77 hornet amx . I did some port cleanup and port matching on the iron heads. .045 piston quench, roller cam and other mods. I’m only looking for 400 hp . I call this the practice motor as it is my first build.

[@alimechs]

Good update keep it up the good work 👍👍

[@JAMSIONLINE]

Thanks 👍

[@teamgrizzly2859]

They have came a long ways! Nice to see a single point cutter for the valve seal now! They used to use a rottler and I have a few sets that were absolutely terrible on seat profile and seat run out

[@flyonbyya]

This channel will soon hit 1M subs

[@codo7]

Looking forward to this.

[@GrandPitoVic]

Plenty of clearance Clarence!!!! ROFLMFAO!!!!

[@a427rracer]

I love Mopar RB big blocks. I have one in my Cuda punched out to 496. Thing screams. And scares the crap outta me.

[@JAMSIONLINE]

That’s the goal 😎

[@bobqzzi]

Nice video Stock Mopar big block heads are notorious for bad airflow compared to Fords and Chevys. These heads are a great alternative Nice quality. Can't really wrap my head around an 11/32" valves, but I guess they know best

[@Dave5843-d9m]

11/32” is 8.73mm.

[@bobqzzi]

@@Dave5843-d9m Yup. I would be inlined to just use an 8mm stem.

[@joemuncie9187]

In the middle of this video I researched their SBC Twisted Wedge heads. I was considering them for my last build, 20 years ago. They were not available. I now know why. Keep up the good work.

[@JeffKopis]

Twisted Wedge heads were designed for the 85-up Mustang 5.0 engine. They changed the valve angles to allow for bigger cams without having to flycut the pistons.

[@White.Elemant]

This was a great vid, lots of wisdom spread around 🙏

[@MichaelKollmorgen-j2t]

You people do such interesting Machine Shop Work, I'd love to work for you. I would love to learn more about machining Automotive parts. I am a Manual Machinist, now retired, and the work you guys do is in the Manual Style of machining skills. I sort of imagine that the bulk of your shop work is Customized due to the various Engine makers and the jobs that need to be performed on them.

[@dbejmar]

Wow! Really good quality of content and production 👍👍 always impressed at your talents. Sincerely Sweden

[@Carcrafter7165]

Awesome video very informative and in depth.

[@dougankrum3328]

Another really great video, plenty of helpful info, even if you already know it all....!

[@raj-u6t1m]

Scanner Danner is a class act. I love that you guys are putting in the effort on this build. This beast will make him soil his drawers.

[@ScannerDanner]

I'll bring wipes on my first test drive 😂 Thank you my friend

[@25vrd48]

Thanks for the lessons . Great video .

[@ScannerDanner]

10:05 Truth Josh! 🤩

[@Airman..]

Let it rip Danner

[@ScannerDanner]

@@Airman.. 🤘

[@skydogg33]

4:50. They use butter on their valves instead of ketchup!

[@seancollins9745]

Trickflow makes really really nice stuff. that RA isn't just due to the machine process, it is also the quality of the casting. you need a really rigid casting, with good material and properly heat treated for a good RA. Be nice if we could get heads made out of hard aluminums like 7075, man it is super easy to get a good finish on 7075. IIRC trick flow uses heat treated 356 T6, machines nice, hold shape well, fairly hard.

[@busterbriley2119]

I always learn from watching your videos but I really learned a lot on this one.

[@JAMSIONLINE]

Glad to hear it! Josh brings a lot of knowledge and experience to the build!

[@DrFiero]

I usually work on V8's, and other larger engines. Ended up working on this really small engine that had dropped a couple valves and wrecked the chambers. So, had to replace it as it wasn't machinable. I called around to all the local wreckers, but after asking them how much they'd charge for a little head - they all hung up on me! :D

[@b4d0n10n]

Also, didn't see him use ketchup to drop the valves in, Jim...

[@Dave5843-d9m]

David Vizard (the original flow bench guy) says a turn within a port as series of 15 degree steps flows the same as a continuous curve.

[@ramanshah7627]

"what really matters when it comes to product quality is, do the guys who are working on it actually care?" Words to live by, in virtually all fields of endeavor 😊

[@98integraGSR]

This is an awesome video! My dream has always been to use my GI Bill to go somewhere like SAM and then get a job at AFR/ Trickflow/ CFD

[@larrybeussink7737]

Thanks for the great learning experience.

[@davidstuck2866]

I would be a LOT MORE EXCITED if this was being built for ME! But this is still very interesting getting to see what is possible from a 413 block. IMO, aftermarket heads are the way to go IF you can afford them. you can grind in those stock heads for weeks and NEVER even come close to what can be achieved with heads MADE for performance, rather than pushing a 5000 pound brick down the road.

[@rickyfulks889]

Excellent video fella's thank u very much

[@frazeysburgelites]

That intro felt like the show “how it’s made”

[@mrphiscal]

This one is going to be amazing

[@miceinoz1181]

I am very surprised you do not use beehive valve springs. They are very efficient I am told. A very informative video.

[@judd_s5643]

I always thought that the ports were polished to mirror like finish. These look very rough. Perhaps it a golf ball dimple effect that improves a laminar flow.

[@fredmitchel1236]

A great finish... We had a Italian Berco surface grinder...wet, them dress them stones... Back in 1980... It put a better finish than 18 micro inches Ra.. With our SJ-210 now which wasn't available then... The Berco does like less than 10 micro inches Ra... With another grind stone....almost mirror finish... So long ago. I hope they still make the Berco. I hope so. I could turn it on...dial 0.004..let it grind..while I go grind seats with the Sioux Yeah we had that other head tool.. Float table...form tool WC three angles... And I never played that 1 degree offset game like some factory grind... Isn't it amazing...exhaust guide clearance like 0.035"..for say a 2" valve the worn engine can put out great power What up with that ? Anyway it was nice to see the folks care and so do you about the head machining... How about better material for the valve guide..? Isn't it shame....this engine is going to throw a rod... Or be just a little lean...or have some ridiculous valve lift...few cam lobe will break down...and there goes that coarse polish powder thru the whole engine. All to make the KZbin audience have to see a big dyno number. Sure- I love the power. Can it match my good ol 7.3 IHC? 463K miles so far. I do change the oil. I am thinking she might ready for a new set of valve springs...just a loaf along engine. 300 hp down low...good enough for me. Oh yes back to the racer...yap pour on the nitrous Boom...suck that exhaust valve. Poor Trick Flow Head I like a set. Oh too bad...not for my tractor motor..

[@Six4691]

Great info, thanks for sharing!

[@dbrandon4528]

I’m nerding out here thanks

[@JAMSIONLINE]

Thanks for watching!

[@billsmith8739]

Looking good!!

[@ScannerDanner]

@22:00 the new head looks significantly wider on the intake side. Talk to me about this Nic or Josh and how is the intake manifold going to fit? OR I'll wait for the next episode!

[@EngineRehab]

That’s one of the reasons I went down there!

[@SeanJoseph-s2s]

Great content and thanks 👍🔧

[@ianfiddes9871]

Cracking video, good info, hand de-bur wow, respect 👌

[@CraigLYoung]

Thanks for sharing 👍

[@glennbattersby7447]

Fascinating!

[@SmittyAccess]

I had a set on mustang. I loved them.

[@picturemetrollin2093]

They should do any filing or deburring with the surface tilted down so any material removed falls away and not down into the valves.

[@keithkamps77]

Wouldn't you want a stronger valve spring to reduce the risk of Valve float??????? OMG this stuff is beyond me and thank you sooooo much for this video as it gave me a better understanding of a custom build and especially the flow characteristics of cylinder heads.

[@hotpuppy1]

Those ARE stronger springs, but lighter.

[@ScannerDanner]

@@hotpuppy1 yep, he mentioned like 60lbs or something like that?

[@dugwthree]

That ws very educational.

[@johndavies8608]

Hi guys. From melbourne Australia. Love your channel.. Any chance you can explain/ demonstrate how a flow bench works for dialling in heads?

[@adamwillick6878]

This is unrelated to this video but you made a video in the past about cleaning engine parts. My question is, does cleaning in a similar manner to your process, ie. baking, blasting, washing, and the steelabrator do any damage to valve seats ? I was told this was a possibility by a local shop. I’m rebuilding a set of 390 Cadillac heads somewhat on the cheap and I need them cleaned well, but the seats and valves are all in good and reusable shape in my opinion and I don’t want to have new seats installed.

[@billtimmann338]

Have you looked at the golfball dimple pistons yet????

[@timcanterbury9738]

Suggest a poster version of the valve to cylinder wall clearance shot at full open.

[@vernonslone8627]

Probably the best factory wedge head for Mopar's was the Max Wedge or the 300J heads....

[@davidshay4773]

Awesome guys 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@beekeeper6109]

Great video

[@Ryninger100]

show us clips of your efforts running!

[@Stevesbe]

My first set of aluminum heads were sbc EdelBrock rpm back in 1990 when they first came out i think they $825 from RHS

[@RandomAuto12]

Years ago did a full top end build for a guy with some trick flow heads and omg the quality of those things was too good for the body but race car things right.

[@MichaelRadelet]

In your opinion, is there such a thing as too smooth of a gasket surface?