The Oldest KATA in KARATE History (セーサン)

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Jesse Enkamp (KARATEbyJesse)

Jesse Enkamp (KARATEbyJesse)

Күн бұрын

Learn the oldest kata from Okinawa - the birthplace of Karate.
This form actually originates in China, from a kung-fu style called Incense Shop boxing. This was the style practiced at the Southern Shaolin temple, which later developed into White Crane, and heavily influenced the roots of Karate.
(Or "Tode" as the martial art was called before its modernization in mainland Japan.)
This kata exists in every traditional style, and is even featured in Bubishi - the bible of Karate.
In this video you'll learn its original form as taught by master Lin in Fuzhou, Fujian.
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@KARATEbyJesse
@KARATEbyJesse 4 жыл бұрын
What do you wanna learn? 👊
@thomasda3482
@thomasda3482 4 жыл бұрын
maybe street fight tactic and stratigy
@dswynne
@dswynne 4 жыл бұрын
How to be a better version of myself.
@jethrox827
@jethrox827 4 жыл бұрын
Karate foot sweep into punch on the ground for street fighting
@sanakabana
@sanakabana 4 жыл бұрын
Morote Koken Uke bunkai?
@ljosca1788
@ljosca1788 4 жыл бұрын
I would really like you to speak about the "Atifa" in Okinawan karate, what is called "fah jing" in chinese martial arts. Thank you
@MZH47
@MZH47 4 жыл бұрын
Apart from what everyone has already mentioned, I really love how the Chinese teacher is so eager to pass on his knowledge. Without people like him, so many of us would be left in the dark. It's also thanks to you Jesse for going and bringing that knowledge out to us. It looked like he really liked having you. I hope you are able to go back and train more with him.
@francoiswilliams
@francoiswilliams 3 жыл бұрын
I had great experiences since 1990 training in Taiwan, HK, China, even Philippines...most masters are eager to share...
@seancarville1888
@seancarville1888 3 жыл бұрын
It was beautiful to watch him move so effortlessly.
@cassiuslives4807
@cassiuslives4807 2 жыл бұрын
it's sad that Master Lin might be one of the last. I hope that videoing him will save things for posterity. I hope Jesse has more time to visit him, learn more and collect more footage!
@myeramimclerie7869
@myeramimclerie7869 2 жыл бұрын
I liked how he spoke high Chinese in the beginning of explaining the Kata but later on changed into his lokal dialect because he's like f** it, the foreigner doesn't understand anything anyways, I might as well talk comfortably then 😂
@MZH47
@MZH47 2 жыл бұрын
@@myeramimclerie7869 Had no idea. That's funny!
@FedericoMalagutti
@FedericoMalagutti 4 жыл бұрын
The passion you express while explaining is so contagious that I feel it through the bones. Cool video as always, thanks for sharing it.
@KARATEbyJesse
@KARATEbyJesse 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Just doing what I love 😄
@darrylwalls4162
@darrylwalls4162 Жыл бұрын
What is the original name of seisan they use in China ?
@leesfunkaratechannel7296
@leesfunkaratechannel7296 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy that this version is being preserved - It would be great for him to go through all of his Kata with 4 cameras around him, just so people can reference back to it at a later date. Thank-you very much for posting this!
@bevinmodrak4997
@bevinmodrak4997 3 жыл бұрын
100% agree
@mrhecto7147
@mrhecto7147 3 жыл бұрын
What's the name of the form in chinese?
@shadow5870
@shadow5870 3 жыл бұрын
Up
@donedeal725
@donedeal725 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrhecto7147 Sumfin-nu
@SenseiSeth
@SenseiSeth 4 жыл бұрын
We do Seisan! We’re Kempo though, so a bit newer than most styles.. but still! How cool
@KARATEbyJesse
@KARATEbyJesse 4 жыл бұрын
Old is gold 🌮🌮🌮
@miguelrigor959
@miguelrigor959 4 жыл бұрын
Hello
@Cyclonus5
@Cyclonus5 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah my Kempo teacher said the roots of our system go back to the meiji era but everything traceable is only to like the 40's when it got blended with Karate in Taiwan. A lot of Kempo seems to have Karate links.
@petersalvucci6939
@petersalvucci6939 3 жыл бұрын
.. loved the video, was wondering if you show the complete original Chinese form ?
@joshuabrowne101
@joshuabrowne101 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think that Seisan maybe the seed that Karate grew from and can it be used to find when and where and between who this art started?
@MajesticBlueFalcon
@MajesticBlueFalcon 4 жыл бұрын
Sensei Jesse, you are doing the world a great service by archiving this knowledge in video form. Please keep it up!
@chompooser
@chompooser 3 жыл бұрын
I live in Hawaii. I am Uchinanchu, but was born and raised here. I am proud of my "Okinawan" heritage. I have learned Karate in my youth. I transitioned to Chinese martial arts, soon after learning of the connection with China. Your videos have taught me not only about martial arts, but also culture...my own in particular. I thank you for your videos and the in depth research that must have gone into it. Your an awesome practitioner and seem to be an even more awesome man. Thanks again for your videos and please keep 'em coming my friend. Mahalo!! (Thank you in Hawaiian)
@varanid9
@varanid9 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a Part 2 to this video demonstrating the last part of the Chinese version that had the more complex movements missing in the Okinawan version?
@dphill96
@dphill96 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@danieldubaj4776
@danieldubaj4776 3 жыл бұрын
Me too, but seems it sadly won't happen.
@TheVictorsCircle
@TheVictorsCircle 3 жыл бұрын
My thougts exactly!
@Eleuthan
@Eleuthan 2 жыл бұрын
@@danieldubaj4776 :(
@obiwanquixote8423
@obiwanquixote8423 3 жыл бұрын
This is honestly one of your best videos. A funny thing I noticed is that the instructor speaks to you in Mandarin and his students local dialect. Because, you know, Mandarin is what you'll understand. I love how animated and excited he is telling you about the form. The passion shows through
@larrytse9003
@larrytse9003 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for you, bring back the old martial arts information, useful for me in training.
@jimmagwojo2718
@jimmagwojo2718 4 жыл бұрын
I like that you framed this as both a demonstration and a disussion - good to discuss and learn with Kata - thats one of the best things i enjoy doing with my Sensei trying to to understand the how, what, when, where, & why
@valeriacasavola8874
@valeriacasavola8874 2 жыл бұрын
Jesse I just saw your trip to China and was inspiring! You are doing a super important work here on passing down knowledge and keeping traditions alive. I would love to see the other 3 katas, you should definitely go back! Thank you for making us leave this dream trip!
@fRikimaru1974
@fRikimaru1974 3 жыл бұрын
2:08 That was just beautiful.
@martialartsnerd3253
@martialartsnerd3253 4 жыл бұрын
Tucking the tailbone is also important for many Chinese martial arts. While I was practicing Tai Chi (both Wu- and Yang-style) I noticed how important it is and how much it changes the "kata". Great work on this video as always!
@jacobymt
@jacobymt 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding work here Jesse. Thanks for passing along this knowledge to help us understand, not only application, but history. Thank you.
@SalvadorTrakal
@SalvadorTrakal 3 жыл бұрын
I love this! I've been practicing traditional Northern Shaolin for 14 years now and I love history and Okinawan Karate, specially the connection with White Crane which I know a little bit. I hope to find an Okinawan Karate school where I live to practice some day! Thank you for sharing what you know and all the best to you!
@onlyhuman7420
@onlyhuman7420 4 жыл бұрын
I love this kind of videos where Jesse explores ancient roots of Karate.You are great presenter.Thank you.
@mgunfighter
@mgunfighter 4 жыл бұрын
if it's possible, perhaps jesse can work with naka sensei in kuro-obi world? cheers
@han-hun
@han-hun 4 жыл бұрын
It's amazing. What you show at 10:30 can be found in a lot of our traditional Pencak Silat styles here in Indonesia. Great video!
@jethrox827
@jethrox827 4 жыл бұрын
Missed your vids mate, great to see you back
@KARATEbyJesse
@KARATEbyJesse 4 жыл бұрын
Never left! 😄
@luvlife2786
@luvlife2786 4 жыл бұрын
I love the way you bring so much information to your videos. It's amazing how a kata can have so many variations. I was taught shoto-kan katas by an ex special ops instructor. He followed the Book by Shojiro Sugiyama.I always look forward to your videos.
@carlosensei1
@carlosensei1 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jesse, I can’t tell you how much I appreciate your videos. I’ve practiced a variety of arts in the past 30 some odd years, isshinryu, shotokan, northern preying mantis, wing chun, under qualified instructors, and a few others as a result of a curiosity to just compare different styles. It is so fantastic what you’ve done in finding the source of it all, not to mention the father of “ The oldest known Kata”! WOW! Tremedous!
@reivhal9057
@reivhal9057 4 жыл бұрын
6:06 "You kind of connect your glutes to your abs and you get this super strong posture" *I Have no Abs* ಥ_ಥ
@jeffainsworth362
@jeffainsworth362 3 жыл бұрын
Wow Jesse , you’re inspiring me to get back into karate.
@soonerkickboxing1
@soonerkickboxing1 3 жыл бұрын
An amazing video Jesse....!!! we are so happy for your work , keep it on..... salutes from Atlanta, GA....
@FilipAlexiusJoos
@FilipAlexiusJoos 4 жыл бұрын
This is a brilliant comparison Jesse. Thank you for that!
@cskok2097
@cskok2097 4 жыл бұрын
Yay!! the full Intro Theme song is back
@KARATEbyJesse
@KARATEbyJesse 4 жыл бұрын
Haha glad you like it! 🙏
@cskok2097
@cskok2097 4 жыл бұрын
@@KARATEbyJesse sensei, this is kata so beautiful!! and graceful!! (and towards the end of the video, the master started to speak Fuchow hahahaha) appreciate you went all the way to China to get all of us this valuable piece of information (and during Covid outbreak!!) appreciates
@theaveragenewbie2465
@theaveragenewbie2465 4 жыл бұрын
Damn Jesse, I really freaking love these kinds of videos of yours!!! I come from Taekwondo, but recognise so many moves / techniques and since all martial arts are related it makes sense and I love it 💪 I'm not sure, if you are allowed to film the full kata and upload it, but I would really love to see you perform the oldest Kata in full length 🥋🔥😇🔥🥋
@KARATEbyJesse
@KARATEbyJesse 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Hopefully I’ll be able to perform it. It’s harder than it looks!
@pgong
@pgong 4 жыл бұрын
So cool. I really enjoy learning the roots of my karate training. This is a perfect addendum to your China series. Thank you!
@christophercurtis2893
@christophercurtis2893 3 жыл бұрын
You are so excited about what you've learnt your breathing is unmeasured Jesse! Must have been fantastic discovering - and being taught this.
@terrycapewell1717
@terrycapewell1717 4 жыл бұрын
Good to see where it came from, I got my Dan grade when I was 60 three years ago, in our association Seishan is used to grade to 3rd Dan. It is very intricate and is a challenge to get right !
@Carlos-lv5fx
@Carlos-lv5fx 8 ай бұрын
Best Martial Arts Video ever. It's great to see the connections amongst styles (not only of Karate) coming down to a simple set of movements with specific breathing techniques
@karate357
@karate357 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jesse for posting, sharing, and Explaining what was shared and imparted to you. I hope you share the second part of the kata that you referenced earlier in this video. Grateful.
@hamishcoyne4685
@hamishcoyne4685 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Senseii! Love your work
@KARATEbyJesse
@KARATEbyJesse 4 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@LimerickShojinkai
@LimerickShojinkai 4 жыл бұрын
Make his knuckles bleed!
@rcs386
@rcs386 4 жыл бұрын
YES, SENSEI!
@seadawg93
@seadawg93 4 жыл бұрын
Seisan! 😮😄 I learned it as a kid, awesome! If I remember correctly we learned it as the first actual kata at yellow belt, with the understanding that it was one of the most important, and that we learned it early so that after years when we got advanced we’d be able to do it correctly. EDIT: just watched a video of the Isshin Ryu version; it’s been close to 30 years but I remembered about 2/3 Ed’s of it, maybe I should get back into karate!
@popcornzbd
@popcornzbd 4 жыл бұрын
Never let karate go completely. Even if you just move thru stance and punch. Pick 1 or 2 katas. Sounded like you let your karate go. It's not about fighting. There's so much more to it as I think you know.
@berkahiyeito3457
@berkahiyeito3457 4 жыл бұрын
I am very appreciative and happy with your efforts to find out about KATA from the original martial arts BECAUSE now KATA in karate is just a movement without content in the sense that many people do it without knowing the essence of the movement! hopefully you will share more of these things with us
@TheGuitarChief
@TheGuitarChief 3 жыл бұрын
So cool!! Thanks for posting this! Always love learning about the origins of karate and katas!!
@LimerickShojinkai
@LimerickShojinkai 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of Hangetsu in my training recently. A personal favourite. Lovely to see the Chinese version. Osu.
@paulr.8365
@paulr.8365 4 жыл бұрын
Are you gonna perform for us at one point the entire kata ? Great work K-nerd! 🔥
@KARATEbyJesse
@KARATEbyJesse 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t feel qualified, it’s so difficult! 😫 The same goes for the other original Kung-Fu kata I learned in China... It really makes sense why the Okinawans simplified the forms 👍
@paulr.8365
@paulr.8365 4 жыл бұрын
@@KARATEbyJesse I don't blame you man. Nobody with bit of intelligence would judge you for trying but the Net is the Net! Take care
@HeyouCrow
@HeyouCrow 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulr.8365 AppreCiate, yoUr *hint* (☸️🔐)., Believe it was too ☯️ *subtle* tho. 🤷🏻‍♂️🙏
@tjbjjtkd
@tjbjjtkd 4 жыл бұрын
It is actually one of my favorite kata to look at! So much history and connection from China to Okinawa.
@markhotson9703
@markhotson9703 3 жыл бұрын
I have been fascinated by martial arts for over 40 years since being a child. I remember reading Terry O'Neil's magazine Fighting Arts International with it's beautifully written articles many of which centered on Karateka visiting Japan but also with well written pieces on a variety of martial arts. Your channel is one of the VERY few internet channels that represents taht quality of martial arts journalism / history, keeping out of politics and therefore staying relevant throughout the passage of time by representing quality.
@apatheticsquid5658
@apatheticsquid5658 4 жыл бұрын
7:20 the move is almost identical to the way a lot of goju ryu practioners perform their osai-uke, particularly those who've trained under the jundokan such as myself. A prime example would be before the last punch in saifa kata or after the sets renzoku punches in sesan
@KO-us9dg
@KO-us9dg 4 жыл бұрын
How long since you have trained at the Jundokan? I'm planning on going asap
@user-vb9km7hn1p
@user-vb9km7hn1p 4 жыл бұрын
Oldest version looks like southern kung fu. For sure it comes from the shaolin.
@davidmartinez9804
@davidmartinez9804 3 жыл бұрын
Yea Karate is based off Shaolin.
@pierre-lucmorrissette6928
@pierre-lucmorrissette6928 3 жыл бұрын
Im teaching wing chun kung fu, and lots of the movement in there are in our style.
@feminico2613
@feminico2613 3 жыл бұрын
I think karate was based off of kungfu
@arbogast4950
@arbogast4950 3 жыл бұрын
Shaolin was a martial arts hub. Not necessarily a place of invention. A lot of the Shaolin forms you learn used to be complete styles.
@gbormann71
@gbormann71 3 жыл бұрын
He explains it in his China Trip videos. It's called Incense Shop Boxing. Jesse first visited a White Crane master but it felt not close enough. Then he had a disappointing experience at the Southern Shaolin site. They were wandering about until they bumped into two student with whom they exchanged ideas, to then be kicked out by staff; off that received some intel that one of the 'original' styles is now known as Incense Shop. The story is that when the fighting monks got kicked out by the CCP, some of them regrouped and secretly practised behind an Incense Shop. That guy is one of the few left that still knows about the style. Given the circumstances over the years, it was difficult to gather a large enough group of students to keep the style alive. They might but but I think this footage will become a historic document for future karate history researchers! (By the way, there were a few other encounters with different Southern style practitioners but they seemed tangential to the main thrust of the story. Don't skip them, though! The form applications they show are real eye-openers. Lots of trapping going on that is not evident from the form moves, moves that have a lot in common with moves in katas.)
@evol1349
@evol1349 3 жыл бұрын
Love the passion and the vids you post. I took Chaun Fa as a child for 3 years. My instructor in the Air Force and was taught while stationed in the mid-1960s in Okinawa. We also learned the first 4 katas from Goju-Ryu. Thanks for the vids. info and love of the arts.
@jameschant2740
@jameschant2740 3 жыл бұрын
It's very interesting how Seisan Kata became the seed of karate by laying the framework from which all forms of karate share. Fundamentals like wide stances, circular blocks, and short range strikes make it a must know for any practitioner of the art. Had the joy to learn the Uechi-Ryu version many years ago. Excellent overview on it, Jesse.
@ShinSuperSaiyajin
@ShinSuperSaiyajin 4 жыл бұрын
finally!!!! hope you eventually go back to china and learn some more Incense Shop Boxing!
@christineb1464
@christineb1464 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, it's cool to see how similar the moves I learned in Isshin Ryu are to the originals.
@philipouma3867
@philipouma3867 4 жыл бұрын
I did isshin ryu too! What is you lineage
@anime-nut2626
@anime-nut2626 3 жыл бұрын
I’m under Nagle/Lizotte. I think it’s interesting seeing how we still do the semi block like traditional Kung Fu.
@josefernandomartinez5702
@josefernandomartinez5702 4 жыл бұрын
Good effort, great conection. THe archeological job is amazing. I thank you to share it with everybody. Congratulations.
@alfredochavezv
@alfredochavezv 3 жыл бұрын
I generally like most of your videos alright, but this one I really loved. It turns out I'm very interested in the history, the roots and the evolution of all, eastern, western and new world martial arts. Thank you for a really marvelous video!
@01MeuCanal
@01MeuCanal 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool but this also show that Karate Masters were really modernizing Kung Fu. Could you show the complete today's Seisan bunkai?
@mateiistrate5961
@mateiistrate5961 4 жыл бұрын
That's amazing
@KARATEbyJesse
@KARATEbyJesse 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you 👊
@juanitakapp4250
@juanitakapp4250 4 жыл бұрын
Loved it! Always great to learn how to do a new kata and what the moves mean. Thank you!
@jimducroiset1628
@jimducroiset1628 4 жыл бұрын
Just awesome! Thank you Sensei. I know the goju ryu version but love the variation! One of my favorite kata. Thank you for really keeping this stuff alive
@iamdjsluggo
@iamdjsluggo 4 жыл бұрын
Wow. You are a great Sensei. Even showing the Bunki Thank you for the history lesson. I have not been in a Dojo in over ten years. You have made me want to return. Arigatou gozaimasu
@mykulpierce
@mykulpierce 4 жыл бұрын
This is getting very interesting! For military practice I expect to see more arm breaks in martial arts. We see them in the European manuscripts. Even though we haven't kept up on that as being a continuous art we have The manuals of fiore, tollhoffer, and others that demonstrate the necessity of grappling with swordplay. What is often referred to as winden und binden ( winding and binding) which is this sort of circular motion has during contact with your enemy in order to change your position to gain mechanical advantage. Fiore in his manual promotes his techniques with the idea of how often he's broken people's arms. But you'll see no groundwork at all in the manual. all of these holds and breaks are done from standing positions. A single arm wrap followed by a strike very similar to what we're seeing here. He goes to show the universality of combat arms and the military practice of martial arts. It's roots in military practice rather than self-defense.
@KARATEbyJesse
@KARATEbyJesse 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting! Thanks for sharing 😄👍
@mykulpierce
@mykulpierce 3 жыл бұрын
@@JosephKerr27 I'm not familiar with Matt but would be interested in additional standing breaks
@francoiswilliams
@francoiswilliams 3 жыл бұрын
Cool, you in EU now?
@LTBrink
@LTBrink 3 жыл бұрын
Michael Pierce He is referring to Matt Easton, a Historical European Martial Arts instructor from Britain. “ context” is one of his key catch phrases.
@FlorisGerber
@FlorisGerber 3 жыл бұрын
dude, your sentence is somewhat confusing: Winden und Binden has very little to do with ringen and arm breaks. That is not to say that winding and binding is not important, or is not the art of getting a mechanical advantage; nor is it to say that Wrestling is not important in Swordplay, because especcially arm entrapments and jolting "breaks" are really important. ( I have some vid's on my channel highlighting wrestling, especially arm wrestling techniques) It's just to say that your sentence makes it look as if these two concepts were intertwined, which they are only peripherally.
@wesbrown3831
@wesbrown3831 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely one of the best linking videos I have seen in a while.
@pstamaria
@pstamaria 4 жыл бұрын
As usual ..... Brilliant! Thx Jesse Sensei! Who would have thought?!
@ReviveHF
@ReviveHF 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like Wing Chun, White Crane and Hung Kuen forms, perhaps there's missing link?
@KARATEbyJesse
@KARATEbyJesse 4 жыл бұрын
You should check out my webseries ”Karate Nerd in China” kzbin.info/aero/PLnepTzrhzuB-6k93Klo0L5GDwiMym3Y9a
@rockerdrake
@rockerdrake 3 жыл бұрын
It's five ancestors 五祖拳
@neonknight5857
@neonknight5857 4 жыл бұрын
That old man swings his arms in the strangest way. It's like they're abnormally flexible or something. He looks like he's trying to snap his arms like whips.
@unclesuave
@unclesuave 3 жыл бұрын
It would be exactly that. That loose whipping force is common in many Kung Fu systems. Water flowing around a solid object and then crashing. The Iron Ball and Chain instead of an Iron Bar as Bruce Lee described it.
@bladesxf
@bladesxf 3 жыл бұрын
To see more whipping forms, you can look up another Chinese kungfu style called Piguaquan/Piguazhang (or "Pi Kua Chuan/Chang" 劈挂拳、劈挂掌、披挂拳) which, in the variant names, literally translates to "Chopping/Cleaving/Unrolling" + "Hanging" + "Fist/Palm". The older (and my preferred) 披 name primarily describes the action of unrolling something (e.g. a carpet) or throwing on something (e.g. a covering) but can also mean to scatter/spread apart (typically solid, non-granulated) objects or used in context of opening something. The younger and current 劈 name is much more aggressive and means chopping/cleaving/hacking as with an axe. Interestingly, the Chinese characters reflect this ideological change from a "hand" radical to a "blade/knife" radical.
@neonknight5857
@neonknight5857 3 жыл бұрын
@@bladesxf hey thanks for the suggestion
@alexhenke1979
@alexhenke1979 9 күн бұрын
Phantastic video! Thanks Jesse
@javejoshuablock4828
@javejoshuablock4828 4 жыл бұрын
There is no diggin with Jesse. He just gives you the gold right away, but its so much knowledge way to heavy to carry right away... so you always get remembered there is always more room to grow and learn...learning and preserving what was and what will be...thank u for sharing and for your amazing work 🙏
@jayvardhannaruka5953
@jayvardhannaruka5953 4 жыл бұрын
Love from india
@giovannip.1433
@giovannip.1433 4 жыл бұрын
Cool. I would have thought 4 directional punching would be the oldest kata because of its simplicity?
@KARATEbyJesse
@KARATEbyJesse 4 жыл бұрын
That’s not really a ”kata”
@julianbroughton
@julianbroughton 3 жыл бұрын
I don't even practice any martial arts but I love your enthusiasm so much! I love hearing you explain the history behind different movements.
@carlosaugustodasilva5123
@carlosaugustodasilva5123 4 жыл бұрын
Great lesson, Jesse San! The beauty of martial arts is just to study to always improve ourselves.
@oldbutbold
@oldbutbold 3 жыл бұрын
I really thought the Chinese master demonstrated Karate. Wow.
@toast2300
@toast2300 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being early and having nothing to say...
@KARATEbyJesse
@KARATEbyJesse 4 жыл бұрын
Story of my life 🤪
@VectorCrafty
@VectorCrafty 3 жыл бұрын
I typed up all of the movements of the first Incense Shop Boxing form in detail the best I could following the video, and then your video answered all of my questions! Thank you for your help. -Shaolin disciple & karateka
@reinaldomendeslopes3433
@reinaldomendeslopes3433 3 жыл бұрын
I love to learn about karate with Sensei Jesse. A lot of usefull information that it's provided through personal research.
@mariushillestad6723
@mariushillestad6723 4 жыл бұрын
its disturbing my peace, that someone disliked this (?)
@toanthony
@toanthony 4 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing because they disagree that seisan is the oldest kata. Eg Hanshi Patrick McCarthy’s research suggests Bushi Matsumura version is the oldest, yet there were a number of kata in Okinawa long before he was even born
@supaida_man
@supaida_man 4 жыл бұрын
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@mattsrentzhog4688
@mattsrentzhog4688 4 жыл бұрын
Taikiken?
@samuvahakangas4895
@samuvahakangas4895 4 жыл бұрын
That's not even close to being all.
@Meymeygwis
@Meymeygwis 3 жыл бұрын
Such a wealth of information born from years training, devotion and diligent study. Thank you for sharing the fruits of your journey.
@leandrobarrientos8868
@leandrobarrientos8868 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 35 years old and always wanted to start karate .. watching your videos was the push i needed to overcome the shame and signed for shorin ryu . Thanks Jesse ... Keep up the good work. Big hug from an argentinian.
@supaida_man
@supaida_man 4 жыл бұрын
All Chinese martial arts Eight methods boxing Eight overturning boxing Eight trigrams palm White eyebrow boxing White crane boxing Tibetan white crane system Eight ultimate boxing Leopard boxing Northern shaolin Family boxing Cai,li, and fo boxing Long boxing Zha shangyi's boxing Penetrating feet system Dog boxing Short boxing Emei-mountain box in Overturning boxing Buddhist boxing Black tiger boxing Hong and Buddhist boxing Hong society boxing Monkey boxing Cai mao's Hua mountain boxing Tiger boxing Jingwu system Kunlun-mountain boxing Lama system Li xiaki's family boxing Li tong's system Six harmonies eight methods. Also known as water boxing Dragon boxing Arhat boxing Plum blossom boxing Cotton boxing Lost track boxing Mo dashi's family boxing Southern system mantis boxing Southern boxing Cannon boxing Chopping and hanging boxing Flexible skill system Shaolin-temple boxing Snake boxing Wrestling Tai chi ch'uan Emperor taizu's boxing Mantis boxing Linqing-city pong leg Flicking/Springing leg Through-the-back boxing Wudang-mountain boxing Primordial chaos one chi palm Five animals boxing Five ancestors boxing Xia family boxing Shape and intention boxing Eagle claw system Intention boxing Wing chun General Yue Fei's family boxing Zhou family boxing Natural system Lee style of hand of the wind boxing Jeet kune do-The way of intercepting fist Liu seong kuntao Tian mountain system Sanshou
@Hy-jg8ow
@Hy-jg8ow 4 жыл бұрын
Choy le fut Wudang snake fist (and other snake fist systems) Splashing hands Hung Gar... Bagua I guess there are others too...
@Ronin-101
@Ronin-101 4 жыл бұрын
Man seriously, i appreciate the time u took to type these..
@supaida_man
@supaida_man 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hy-jg8ow yeah some of it i translate it to English
@BZY-bu9wr
@BZY-bu9wr 3 жыл бұрын
This is a pretty good list! I'm sure there's more but this is a pretty good start.
@caronnecheung9051
@caronnecheung9051 3 жыл бұрын
Ba gua quan and yang family spears system
@kshitijhsharma3628
@kshitijhsharma3628 4 жыл бұрын
did you know the first martial arts created was in Indian martial arts kalaripayattu later on an indian went to china to spread buddhism and created kung fu
@adamgrimsley6455
@adamgrimsley6455 7 ай бұрын
Probably wasn't the first bro
@phantom_mist1726
@phantom_mist1726 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for the info! Karate is such a mystery. It's cool to see where it all started.
@mathieujolliff951
@mathieujolliff951 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Explains a lot. You’ve answered certain questions I’ve had over the years as to why the variations yet similarities in katas were for
@pahandulanga1039
@pahandulanga1039 4 жыл бұрын
Third comment
@NightKnight252
@NightKnight252 4 жыл бұрын
first comment of your third comment
@PauloAbreu
@PauloAbreu 4 жыл бұрын
This video resonated so much with me! My Sensei taught me this kata and kind of “insisted” that it should be my “preferred kata”. I’ve trained it a lot and your video enriched me with this “hidden” knowledge. Thank you, Jesse-san 🙏
@techandnerdy8280
@techandnerdy8280 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the wonderful look at this kata. Seisan has been my very favorite kata for over 20 years. My Sensei told me to learn the kata for competition when I was a green belt and ever since then I've been hooked.
@stevepanda1716
@stevepanda1716 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. This is pretty much the way I learned the original and it’s evolution in Okinawa karate. A lot of people don’t seem to get it that the Okinawan masters often adjusted Chinese forms to conform to Okinawan karate kihon, which makes them look a little different, as you show so clearly. Fun to watch.
@c.y.997
@c.y.997 Ай бұрын
Really informative and interesting video!
@randallpetroelje3913
@randallpetroelje3913 3 жыл бұрын
Love ya!!! Always good teaching and info. Thanks 🙏 again for your show. The bubishi is a classical text every martial artist should study.
@liamwandi
@liamwandi 4 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated video. Thanks Jesse.
@VIVEKKUMAR-tj5ir
@VIVEKKUMAR-tj5ir 4 жыл бұрын
You are best. Your explanation of Technics is very easy to understand. Great deep knowledge received from your side. Domo aregeito.
@JazzBear
@JazzBear 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing! I love your videos! It’s so nice to see all of this history explained.
@erichedgecoth229
@erichedgecoth229 3 жыл бұрын
It’s was great to see this! I study Isshin ryu here in the U.S. My sensei has been modifying our Sei-San kata over many years, with some opposition from the masters, to very similar techniques that’s you have displayed in this video. We follow Master Tatsuo Shimabuku teaching. I’ve watch the few videos that are available, and his teaching of Sei San is very similar to what the master was showing you. I just love the history of our art. Keep up the great work!
@tylerrea2529
@tylerrea2529 3 жыл бұрын
Your Video is a most generous gift, highlighting the vital details of this remarkable form and it's Martial DNA. Deepest Thanks and Best success in your training.
@toniomendoza736
@toniomendoza736 4 жыл бұрын
I was watching the very well done demonstration on this video posting (good stuff by the way) marveling how many of the movements were internal hidden in the the external movements. When I originally learned the form (Shuri- ryu) it took me years to realize where they were (and there are abundant variations to work from as well). The point, the art is much more than what is seen and the teaching / learning is only the beginning. Best to you and yours.
@TheThinkersBible
@TheThinkersBible Жыл бұрын
It's so amazing to see these old grandmasters at work. So humbling and inspirational. Great detective work on this project, thank you!
@KARATEbyJesse
@KARATEbyJesse Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@RichardBejtlich
@RichardBejtlich 4 жыл бұрын
I commend you for your research method and the clear way you show the origin and applications of this kata. I enjoyed every video in your series on visiting China, and I plan to watch Will's videos too.
@senseigoshinjitsu6201
@senseigoshinjitsu6201 3 ай бұрын
I always enjoy your videos. keep up the good work.
@TheRenegadeMonk
@TheRenegadeMonk 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Of everything you have shown in your videos this kata is the one thing I most want to learn.
@abdullahimran8930
@abdullahimran8930 4 жыл бұрын
AYYY JESSE, Ur baaaack, Lets gooooooo, Ur my fav youtuber in Karate mate, Again, AMAZING content
@luisschwrz9488
@luisschwrz9488 4 жыл бұрын
Very good video as always, very well explained and interesting, keep it up. 👍
@rockerdrake
@rockerdrake 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my God!!! This is the very source. Can't be more greatful for this content
@arlenehueholt5661
@arlenehueholt5661 4 жыл бұрын
Absoletly fasanating! The finer details you mention are so important, and get lost over time. I appreciate your scholarly endeavor to understand and preserve this knowledge that is vanishing. Thank you!
@KARATEbyJesse
@KARATEbyJesse 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! The smallest details can make the biggest difference 👊
@isechico
@isechico 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jesse, I was discussing this with my student awhile back for many years I thought Shotokan had borrowed it from Goju, but that is not the case, you have delivered us with a gem of knowledge! Thanks!
@aoshi3000
@aoshi3000 4 жыл бұрын
YOU BLOW MY MIND, YOUR MOST INTERESTING VIDEO SO FAR , THANKS A LOT
@jeldavos
@jeldavos 4 жыл бұрын
Profound👏🏼 I Never Practiced Karate Kata But This Truly Peaked My Interest In The Seisan Kata👍🏼
@luiscarlosts10
@luiscarlosts10 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the excellent information, Master Jesse! Martial arts are also part of my life! They bring us enormous physical and mental benefits!
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