The One Moment We All HATED Katara | Avatar: The Last Airbender

[@mertensiam3384]

"And Suki's taste in men" Lol I wasn't expecting that xd

[@VenhedisKaffas]

Don't we all love Suki's taste in men?

[@LM-ix7pk]

Chayenne Oosterveld well, we only see her with Sokka, so... yes?

[@cv1042]

Didn’t she dated foaming mouth guy?

[@xdsmile5359]

Sukis way with sokka is just so crazy

[@menkirdennis6686]

Caught me by surprise

[@mardy3732]

First time I questioned Katara's character was in "Jet", she has to treat my man Sokka better.

[@jamescadet4450]

dw we can agree that everyone needs a Sokka in there group of friends, he’s one of the best.

[@nicolevarela7567]

dw Fr though, they literally killed him off in LOK as if he were nothing

[@rzum81]

Ugh Jet was the worst lol. I always laughed in the Ember Island Players when he got covered with the fake rock and had to tuck himself underneath it.

[@PinkyGreen_Tea]

Fr always giving him the short end of the stick

[@RoronoaZoro-co9uj]

I agree I agree I agree

[@cobaltprime9467]

Look, I get it, she didn’t just lose her mom, her mom died because of her. She protected her, giving up her own life. So I get why she’s always hung up on her, even more than Sokka was. But she was way out of line saying Sokka didn’t lover their mother.

[@rachelmcdonald7296]

But remember she didn't know her mother died for her until this episode when she confronts that man.

[@arizz8457]

yeah nobody is saying she wasn’t, but the entire episode’s purpose was for her to grow from it. and she did. she was just a kid anyway, she’s expected to lash out like that

[@RecoveringChristian]

She said he didnt love her the way she did which is factually true.

[@juanmanuelmoramontes3883]

@@rachelmcdonald7296 Before that she felt it harder because she was the last of them to see her mother alive.

[@crystalella8765]

​@@RecoveringChristian That doesn't change the fact that it would be really hurtful and rude. Not to mention, we never saw an onscreen apology for that line... or anything else really. 😅

[@luvvsushi6581]

She also said “I knew you wouldn’t understand” to aang after he tells her to not get revenge on the fire nation because they killed her mom. like dude *he lost his whole nation and that’s including his parents*

[@rinowatson]

Aang forgives easy and hates revenge not hard to understand

[@shewannabanghim7809]

Why bring up his parents? Didn't he not know them? Also the air nomads tried to pull some shit with aang by separating from someone he loved(not romantically u sickos) and it caused him to run away and be incased in ice

[@shewannabanghim7809]

@@rinowatson so we gonna forget the scene when he got revenge on the sand benders who stole appa???

[@rinowatson]

Shewanna Banghim that was the avatar state talking

[@shewannabanghim7809]

@@rinowatson wasn't it triggered by extreme anger?

[@jgolden1309_]

Katara: You would never understand. The Fire Nation took my mother away. Zuko: *has an abusive dad and lost his mom* Aang: *lost his whole nation to the Fire Nation* Sokka: *has the same mom as Katara* Edit: Thx sm for 1K likes I’d never thought I’d get this many! :)

[@brke4296]

You think your life is hard I wear size 10 *mens*

[@rinowatson]

Wouldn’t understand revenge Aang is super forging

[@rinowatson]

Forgiving*

[@no-xm7nk]

“My first girlfriend turned into the moon” “That’s rough buddy”

[@caleidozkopie8344]

Dude just called Appa a „damn buffalo“ wtf

[@OverlordGezora]

Aang: “I love you Katar-“ Katara: *”mY mOtHeR uSeD tO lOvE mE”* Aang: . . .

[@theminebloxcraft5779]

@@ijimenez1951 it’s called a joke 🙄. It’s a joke on how she says her mom did the same thing all the time.

[@Anonymous-rw8rx]

Did she really tho?

[@theminebloxcraft5779]

@@Anonymous-rw8rx NO BECAUSE ITS A JOKE THATS THE POINT OF THE JOKE TO MAE FUN OF HER GOING “my mother used to” THING AAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@Anonymous-rw8rx]

@@theminebloxcraft5779 no I meant, did her mother actually love her. I got the joke fam

[@theminebloxcraft5779]

@@Anonymous-rw8rx oh ok👍👍

[@tescorice759]

Zuko: Hey Katar- Katara: *touches necklace* My mother used to call me Katrara

[@anab902]

Omg😂😂😂

[@AJ-lg2sg]

@WasabiLover Yeaahh, poor Katartarr

[@sparkyspark5933]

@@AJ-lg2sg I feel bad for katatrarara

[@julissanunez7847]

At least she still has a dad, the fire nation killed aangs parents and people, he was THE LAST AIRBENDER I felt more bad for aang

[@veronicablack2533]

*starts tearbending*

[@vetarlittorf1807]

I never hated Katara even after this episode. Because this episode is very much in line with her character. It's just that this episode emphasizes more on her character flaws than any other episode.

[@ToonStarterz]

Oddly enough, I think this moment actually enhanced Katara's character. She may have been wrong, but it never felt out of left field. She remained in-character, and that's a difficult thing to pull off.

[@firemiracle]

Same here. But i do admit that the way how katara yelled at sokka by saying "then you didn't love her the way i did!!" That was just messed up in her part, her mother was also's sokka's mother! He feels the same pain she feels and yet she thinks that he never loved their mom??? But at the same time i do understand why katara was behaving like that. Her mother got murdered by a cruel fire nation soldier who showed no mercy. I really loved this episode for two reasons, this ep showed zuko finally proving his loyalty by helping katara find the man who killed her mom, and most importantly is aang saying a powerful message about forgiveness.

[@nimonarocksbby]

What's the episode name?

[@BRG1807]

Iroh:I never hated you I was just sad you had lost your way

[@potatolegion619]

@@jojoyayathereal Iroh.

[@just_a_mollusk]

Katara: You would never understand, the fire nations took my mother. Zuko: Same. Katara: You don't understand, she did it to save me! Zuko: *Same* Katara: YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND! SHE WAS A GOOD PERSON WHO DIDN'T DESERVE IT! Zuko: SAME- Oh forget it.

[@lonebattledroid4474]

Katara: Well at least my mother had a happy marriage and I was able to get through it thanks to my sibling, father, and grandparent. Zuko: ........

[@lvnarv3]

@@lonebattledroid4474 dang

[@valerijajovanovic2020]

@@lonebattledroid4474 how did we turn from "my life is harder" to "well my life is better"? lol

[@MistressFearless]

@@valerijajovanovic2020 You're right. But were they wrong though?

[@Ladysoulkeeper]

Idk if you watched Naruto but Sasuke does this verbatim to Kakashi, and kakashi was like “boy I been an orphan before it was cool” lol it’s just what ppl who experience trauma often do so I just think it’s good writting. Most of those people (from ATLA) didn’t have their loved ones violently murdered directly in front of them, so while they can relate to the loss of a loved one they cannot relate to that level of trauma but as this video mentions there’s always a reason doesn’t mean it’s an excuse. Katara needs help with coming to terms, processing her emotions and becoming at peace with the murder of her mother and at that time that peace she so desperately craved she believed would come from murdering that old man. She just needed help understanding and finding a healthier way of doing so, but they were all children and she needed a delicate voice to not trigger and tbh none of them not even Sokka was equipped for that.

[@malak-ij4lf]

You know sokka is REALLY hurt when he says nothing

[@ijimenez1951]

I kinda wish the cretors focus more in their sibling relationship

[@ijimenez1951]

@@ShriekingShadow ???

[@buppster3053]

@@ijimenez1951 bro what??

[@ijimenez1951]

@@buppster3053 I don't get what you don't understand guys 😂

[@ijimenez1951]

@Inhale I changed it to relationship

[@schecidnavarrete3036]

I get it when people say that Katara was right because she did love her mother more but Sokka looked like he was about to cry like no one has ever seen Sokka so upset before I honestly wanted to like tell her off

[@JavaughnCarr1]

Bruh katara is wrong in all ways. Honestly saying her brother doesnt love their dead mom enough is just bad even in the moment.

[@JavaughnCarr1]

Plus sokka has learned to handle the pain but katara is gonna say sokka doesnt love their mom because he is mature enough to keep the pain to himself.

[@schecidnavarrete3036]

Sokka is more mature just like he said. At first I was like what? Then I heard his point and it makes so much scene. Katara has to stop mourning for the death of her mother and go on with her life

[@siyulater6447]

WhyIsLossyGaming? I don’t know, I honestly think the loss of her mother affected Katara more because she felt guilty. She was the last person to see her mother and felt hopeless because she was too young and scared to do anything.

[@voiceacticon667]

@@schecidnavarrete3036 Back in the southern raiders episode, back in 2008, I never understood why everyone was surprised and startled by Katara’s revenge intention. Why should Katara being full of rage surprise us? Why, because throughout the show we are shown how loving she is? I didn’t think anything of that crap because no matter who you are, everyone has a dark side; even the nicest of people; shouldn’t all of us know that? Everyone is complex. Back when I was 7, I had a reading tutor who would hit me with a hammer anytime I got a question wrong, at 14 in 2008, I was punched in the jaw by my aunt for something I didn’t do, and when I came back home from school to complain about the bullying I was experiencing, my aunts and grandparents did absolutely nothing, I suffered in silence of no one wanting to hear me out and you know what my principal told me? How is it after everything you went through, you remain respectful to all the elders and teachers at my school and never get into trouble at school and never showed any abusive behavior towards women? Back then I remember thinking what kind of stupid question that because my problems has nothing to do with others and it’s not right to be mad at others for my problems because they aren’t the center or cause of it. People are complex, I am complex and you don’t know what goes on people. Katara’s quest for revenge is nothing to be surprised about; we all have a duality. This should be expected.

[@avadrause5576]

The reason that she annoys me is because she undermines everyone else’s issues and puts her own above them. For example Zuko very rarely brings up how it wasn’t his fault what his dad did or how much he lost during the war but accepts the hatred he gets just for his blood and you do not see him lashing out at other people for things they can’t control. But when Katara does it she places her issue above all others.

[@avadrause5576]

Also i’m not trying to defend Zuko because he did do bad things that can’t just be forgotten, but I am saying he was physically and mentally abused by his own father just so his father could gain power and constantly watched him praise Azula when is just another form of mental abuse yet he never uses this as an excuse during the show even when it would be valid just as how Katara wouldn’t annoy me as much is she didn’t use it as an excuse for hate and anger and made others issues insignificant compared to hers which in itself is mentally abusive if you truly think about it but to a lesser scale. Imagine your mother dies and then your sister tells you that your feelings aren’t valid because you don’t want to act in revenge and anger and that you don’t deserve an opinion in the matter because you couldn’t have loved her if you felt any other way besides her own. That’s messed up and though the show doesn’t show it in real life that would leave a lasting effect no matter how mature you are because it makes you question your own feelings all because of her need for revenge.

[@folacantube]

You're speaking nothing but FACTS!!!

[@houseofmatrix6174]

Did you forget Zuko hunted Aang?

[@RecoveringChristian]

Um Zuko lashes out all he time in unbridled fury flying into fits of rage, that was his character arc, what are you talking about?

[@beelainn]

@@houseofmatrix6174 did you forget to read it

[@stqrseed]

honestly i didn’t hate katara when she said that but it did broke my heart :( she loved her mom so muh(ofc sokka did too)

[@flamedab]

Jojo yaya WHYYYY!!!!!?!?!????

[@albertaadadevoh4088]

And I'm pretty sure she felt responsible for her death cut her mom took a dive to save her

[@danielmunoz1275]

She didn't said that she loved her more than Soka, just that he didn't loved her like she did. She's out of control in this episode, because she finally has a way to take out that anger and pain. Katara being in the wrong for saying that is kind of the point. (Personally I think is right in a way. For example: My brother and I love our mother a lot, but both have different ways to show it and interact with her).

[@siyulater6447]

Alberta Adadevoh yeah that’s the feeling I got too, she felt guilty because she didn’t do anything to save her and by the time she got to her dad, her mother was already gone.

[@albertaadadevoh4088]

@@siyulater6447 yeaaa and pretty sure she saw the corpse too...

[@kagami2691]

what I hated was when she told aang "you wouldn't understand" after aang literally had his whole culture wiped out

[@ijimenez1951]

Also Katara later: "I knew you would understand"

[@torbjorn630]

Katara: My mother was killed by firebenders. You wouldn't understand! Aang: Whole culture wiped out by firebenders

[@gibberishtrash3985]

@@torbjorn630 he wasnt there to witness the murders like she was thats the angle shes coming from

[@SCENEIT69]

Aang ran away from his people. Katara's mom died to save her life. How are these two the same?

[@jeffreychen1045]

@@SCENEIT69 I would rather have a parent die than, yknow, have to save the world or your race dies out. If aang had hair it would be white by the ripe old age of 14

[@gabrielaarons6102]

Aang: *lost his entire Nation, his parents and his best friend/father figure to the Fire Nation* Iroh: *lost his one and only son in a war* Toph: *has overprotective parents that never supported her* Zuko: *has an insane sister, an abusive father, and lost his mother when he was 10* Sokka: *litterally has the same mom* Appa and Momo: *are probably the last of their kind* Azula: *has a father that made her belive that her mom loves Zuko more than her* Mai: *has parents that forced her to be obidient* Ty Lee: *has 6 sisters that look exactly like her, and was never thought to be unique* Katara: "yOu Will *nEvEr* uNdErsTanD hOw i FeEl!!"

[@ijimenez1951]

She was talcking about her revenge journey not pain

[@gabrielaarons6102]

@TatzRules Yay Still though. She was a real butt to Sokka who litterally has the same mom as Katara.

[@gabrielaarons6102]

@@ijimenez1951 Aang could have destroyed the Fire Nation, but he decided not to. While Katara just wants revenge.

[@ijimenez1951]

@@gabrielaarons6102 Was Sozin who kill his people not Ozai and you are talcking like Katara kill that man, she learn her lesson

[@gabrielaarons6102]

@@ijimenez1951 As a wise monk once said: "Violence is not the answer. It never is". You have to admit Katara was a real butt for yelling at Sokka for not loving their mom like she did.

[@lspellslogic877]

I honestly never hated Katara, I just think that sometimes her actions are stupid and annoying. Toph is definitely best girl for me.

[@purprr8208]

yass same

[@genix2686]

Hanako-Kun same

[@RobynFrost]

You can't go wrong with Toph

[@mediummunchkin8891]

same

[@ohshitwadup5145]

Bro toph and ti lee (idk how to spell it)

[@djordjecalosevic2571]

When she said to Aang he wouldn't understand, it was really hurtfull for him.

[@anavillanueva1474]

I know and when she asks like if Aang wasn't Stuck in the ice Burg for 100 years and like if he didn't loose his hole civilization and culture and everyone he loved.

[@rinowatson]

@@anavillanueva1474 he wouldn’t understand revenge and he doesn’t it’s about pain. Idk why yal don’t understand

[@yaradeheer3402]

@@rinowatson what he does understand revenge

[@rinowatson]

@@yaradeheer3402 he doesn’t understand killing for revenge he wanted her to forgive right away and katara still couldn’t after not killing him. Any more for me?

[@catherunrose2289]

@@rinowatson That's because of how he was raised. The air nomads were a peaceful race. He did get revenge, but in a different way.

[@idunnn.h.3792]

As someone who lost a parent as a teenager, I definitely can relate to Katara's trait of crying about her mother every episode. I do that all the time, and I'm in my mid-twenties now. But the explosion onto Sokka was a bit harsh. But honestly? It makes sense to me in so many ways. Just like you said: understandable, but not excusable.

[@mysticfire5850]

Okay but would you say that to your own damn sibling? I'll say alot to mine but I'd never say that shir

[@LaptapGamer]

@@mysticfire5850 we just explained how it was understandable but not excusable, why are you still trying to make Katara seem like a villian?

[@Yukipoong]

@@LaptapGamer agree like he act like katara is a bad person 🙄

[@animalfinatic9366]

Right! So realistic!!

[@Seoyeaji921]

@@animalfinatic9366 yup!

[@iggyscott1387]

Katara is definitely a well written character, and a realistic one. But it felt undeserved for Katara who up until this point was that caring mom-friend, to automatically just get forgiven. Sokka was older he knew their mom longer, he had a close relationship with their mom. And Katara just shut that down, and then when she gets her feelings sorted out. She doesn’t even apologize. Not once. The once caring and mom friend and close sister doesn’t apologize. Zuko changes, everyone changes. Except her, why?

[@Zakariye-xu4ps]

Zuko said sorry because he did a lot of fucked shit. Katara said a couple of fucked up things in the heat of the moment. So it’s really not the same thing but yes katara still should’ve apologized. Also Zuko changed because he was “evil” but katara was good throughout the entire series. she just said some bullshit to Sokka and Aang once so you can’t compare the two. Sorry for my bad English

[@mimik6414]

I'm pretty sure she apologized to Sokka. Even though it's not shown, we know what kind of person Katara is to conclude it did happen "off screen".

[@iggyscott1387]

Yes No I was just saying on how they fucked up arguably one of the nicest characters. And yet the little troll demon Zuko gets a conclusion for his messed up stuff. Katara is a good character which makes it more sad to not see a good conclusion to her.

[@kerrychristensen7204]

@@mimik6414 That's logical, but if it's not IN the story then it's just fanon. I *wish* it was canon.

[@arianawatson8]

Yes No I don’t agree. Throughout the whole series Katara is completely insensitive and oblivious to everyone else’s trauma just because of her own. I also don’t like how she treats Toph in the beginning. Although Toph started off rocky Katara should’ve understood that Toph hasn’t really ever worked in a team before. She should also understand that Toph just got away from her clingy parents and isn’t looking for a new mom. I believe Katara let’s her feelings get in the way of the mission which she agreed to help with. She constantly goes off on her own missions because of her “need to help” and just distracts everyone from the main goal. I was furious in the pirate episode when she stole the scroll for “Anng” . I am also mad that she gets mad at Anng for learning water bending to quickly. She also masters water bending and blood bending way too quickly for it to just be skill. It was the writers who quickly made her OP for the sake of the plot. Going back to my point earlier, Katara acts like she has it the worst of all the characters because her mom died. She invalidates everyone else’s trauma and talks about her own way too much in my opinion. Zhukov definitely had the most trauma when it comes to family but you don’t see him using it as an excuse to act out. In the end he changes for the better and helps team avatar. Katara doesn’t change at all in the series and just holds everyone back. I don’t like her as a character and prefer Toph much more because she doesn’t baby the avatar and gets what need to be done, done without a whole story. In the end I believe Katara blames a lot of her shenanigans on her mother’s death which is just one of the things that bothers me the most about her.

[@cheesestickhathreturned6875]

*aang the kid who’s race got exterminated* Katara: “YoU dOn’t uNdErStAnD mE”

[@goddessrick8734]

Aang grew up without a family as a monk who denounced worldly attachment. It's why he was fine despite the loss because he already established far closer ties with his new family. He really doesn't understand.

[@cannonballjenkins2757]

@@goddessrick8734 I mean, losing all your friends, seeing what happend to people when you were away, needing to find masters of each element to train you, needing to fight the most powerful person in the world(at the time), being the last one of your culture/race/nation. It might not be like Kataras, but if Aang has hair, it would've been *white* from the stress. Plus, haven't you seen the way he felt when he found the skeleton of Gyatso at the sky temple? He went into the Avatar State, the thing he had alot of trouble getting in and out of in the beginning of the series. Katara might've lost a mom, and it messed with her greatly, but Aang lost so many people he cared about, and the stress he was carrying was too much someone at his age could handle without help. Now let's not forget this is considered a kids show, and all I said probobly wont happen because of that.

[@cel9225]

@@goddessrick8734 Losing your entire family and friends is mich heavier than losing one, if Aang can mature from that and NOT use that against people at 12 years old she can do the same at 14 years old.

[@lovlipatton8896]

she was talking about how he wouldn’t understand her need for revenge because he was never taught that by the monks

[@goddessrick8734]

@@cannonballjenkins2757 No. Beyond Gyatso Aang has expressed little grief for the Air Nomads. The Air Nomads completely rejected familial structures to persue inner peace and detachment. Aang being able to remain so light hearted throughout the series indicates that the bond he developed with his friends was far stronger and valued way more. Also Aangs hair was *black* bc despite his age he was still a master who had Air Nomads culture ingrained heavily in him. He truely cannot relate to that kind of relationship. It's why even in the finale he's still adement about not taking life.

[@Quandick]

In my opinion, things like this make characters even more realistic, even if it’s wrong. No one is perfect and will always make mistakes/ have flaws. She was in the heat of the moment and made an outburst, which does happen.

[@confidential1306]

Yea but she still should have apologized for what she said and if she did apologize I wish it was shown on screen cause that’s messed up

[@crystalella8765]

Yeah, I agree. As the quote says, it can be understandable, but I don't think it's right to excuse Katara for that action. It was out of line and rude.

[@Quandick]

Yeah

[@ImTitan16]

Realistic doesn't always mean good, although I agree with you. This moment did help me understand kataras love for her mother.

[@royalheadquarters8449]

@@ImTitan16 hmm.. critics will most of the time put realistics over preferences. The more historically / socially accurate it is, the better the quality of the storyline will get. What the audience thinks of it is a secondairy thing though. Some people like this kind of realism and some prefer "always perfect people". You can never satisfy everyone.

[@karenhafeitzdayan6722]

Katara:you will never understand the pain i felt when my mother died Sokka:we have the same mother Zuko:my father burned and banished me and my mother dissapeared Aang: my entire culture died and i didnt even knew my parents

[@matthewkalasky2891]

They've all been through some tough sh!t.

[@astrorii]

THANK YOU

[@vianjelos]

You forgot Toph, her parents never acknolwedge her existance. Imagine knowing your parents kept you secret from the world(even if for good intentions).

[@pn2294]

Aang doesn’t count Family structures in the Air Nomads are different

[@ItsRemmyy]

@@pn2294 His entire nation was still wiped out so it still counts.

[@thicchamster7878]

I love Katara but she’s my least favorite member of team avatar, it’s not because she’s a bad character, I just really love everybody else more.

[@s.l.p.c8116]

me too

[@kathrynann5000]

me too lmao

[@iriszapata6349]

@RandomGuy But Toph type of character is more comun at least Katara is well written

[@rjd061]

I think the reason why Katara is so "extra" in the situation is that she blames herself on how her mother was killed. Her mom sacrifices herself for Katara by saying that she is the last water bender.

[@93King]

Yeah but she didn't know that. She only found out when she went to take revenge on her mother's killer. Her mom told her to leave and go find her father and when she came back they were both gone.

[@ImTitan16]

She didn't know that at the time

[@Shrektopuz]

@@93King She knew by the episode with Hama. So by this one, she already knew it was her fault.

[@tkyng2885]

@@Shrektopuz But technically it wasn’t her fault if a certain crazy lady didn’t escape then they would continue to capture water bender. (Looked it up a couple of times)

[@nikialee9676]

@@tkyng2885 oh my god 😨

[@reganclark559]

Idk katara acting like she’s the only one who ever knows what it’s like to lose someone when Sokka lost the same mother, and Aang lost his whole community

[@sabonnzm7193]

And all of his friends except for Bumi and Appa

[@OrigamiMaster06]

Exactly! Especially when Aang, the avatar, lost his whole race by genocide. It's even worse for him because he probably blamed himself for years afterwards. I love Katara but she acts like no one can understand her whenever that person's opinion disagrees with her own.

[@gloriabuggy8280]

And zuko lost his mother, was scarred permanently by his own father, aND was repeatedly manipulated and emotionally abused by his sister/father. And tophs own parents treated her as if she was helpless and hid her away from the world because they were ASHAMED of her. Sure Katara faced trauma, but so did everyone else in the gaang. :(

[@ijimenez1951]

She don't act like that wtf

[@themudkip5295]

@@ijimenez1951 katara literally saying “you wouldn’t understand”

[@morning8599]

I’m not hardcore Katara fan but I didn’t hate her in that moment. Her hatred was understandable, her actions and words were wrong but also understandable.

[@lasernikixcex]

She said it probably because she was angry

[@stelloluno2795]

Jojo yaya Thats the same thing isn’t it lmao

[@thejaycrewsshow9827]

I don't know she was frustrated and sokka kept acting like she was over reacting but to her this meant everything catching him yea I think she went too far but she was hurt I was more annoyed by anng

[@adrenalinehunters4894]

Agreed

[@Nalon.1242]

OK but imagine a whole flicking race or culture being wiped out that includes his mom and dad i suppose he didn't know them but still 1 v thousands she picked the wrong fight

[@rollsafe1280]

Personally, I think Katara says that because in 'The Runaway' Sokka admits to Toph that he cannot remember what their mother looks like, and unbeknownst to Sokka and Toph, Katara overhears this. Almost everything you see in this show finds a way to be tied back in later and becomes more significant than you originally think it is. Another example of this is in 'The Chase' when Toph (rightfully) blames Appa's shedding for Azula being able to follow them so easily, and then in 'The Desert' Aang irrationally explodes at Toph for not saving Appa and even saying "You never liked Appa! You Just wanted him gone!". Whenever there is conflict between the main characters, it never just comes out of nowhere; a small seed is planted, and later on it begins to sprout and we see the consequences. The writing of this show is absolutely genius, nothing is wasted and everything we see almost always has some purpose.

[@chuuyaism1653]

Yes I get that but its still way out of line and its been made kinda clear that Katara was closer to their mom anyways so honestly I don't think that it excuses that-

[@johndavies7669]

It doesn't matter tho. Whether or not she was closer to their mum. Some things are better unsaid

[@lonebattledroid4474]

Well Sokka knew but yes

[@happilyevernever4289]

@@chuuyaism1653 nobody is saying Katara wasn't in the wrong for that statement. But it doesn't make her a bad person for it. She clearly didn't mean to be intentionally hurtful. She was just hurt herself. And she realized this later on in that episode and let it go.

[@michellejohnson9177]

I always thought this as well. If you don’t remember your mother’s face you do kinda love your mom not the same. I feel what Katara said wasn’t right but she was right in some way

[@Realrat2]

Somebody: breathes Katara: “my mother used to breathe too”

[@typicalman3216]

Lol

[@andrewwilliams29]

Stolen from the comment right above you

[@raydiioactive]

Someone stole this comment and got more famous than u

[@Realrat2]

@@raydiioactive :(

[@raydiioactive]

@@Realrat2 ónò

[@valerijajovanovic2020]

Toph was born blind and her paretns were treating her as a weak child in need of protection that can't do anything on it's own, hiding her the world from her. Zuko's dad wanted to kill him to become the Fire lord and left a permanent scar on his face, as a reminder of his pain and embarassment, that he will wear for the rest od his life, also banishing him from his own country. Aang's whole nation have been killed by the fire nation. Not a single person the same as him. Not a single airbender. All the people he has been in contact with are gone. Everything he knew 100 years ago is no longer the same, expect Bumi who is close to death. Members of the Gaans has it worse than Katara, but never have I heard Aang telling people he has met "Yea...my whole nation has been killed". Kataras whole emotional range is based on her mother's death. And than Soka. Older brother in a close relationship with his family. The fact that he was older at that time must make him feel guilty for not being able to protect his mother. He is not bragging about it like Katara cause he doesn't want to bring back the memories. Just like he said "it is not the day he likes to remember". While Katara boosts her emotinal power and rage by remembering it constantly. And saying that his maturity and the fact that he is not thirsty for ravenge is cause by "not loving his mother enough" is just.. disgusting.

[@PinkyGreen_Tea]

I agree a 100%

[@raine___]

Chile its just a cartoon..JESUS CHRIST 😐

[@sleepybug5166]

For a child, knowing your mother died for you is pretty scarring. Zuko, Toph, and Aang all went through a lot of messed up stuff that was terrible, but their experiences don’t take away from the fact that Katara felt like she was the reason her mother died. What she said to Sokka was super messed up but she’s just a 14 year old girl. Trauma effects everyone differently and just saying that “they had it worse and they didn’t react like that” erases a) characters personalities: of course they react differently! They’re not the same people. And B) that fact that she went through anything at all. Her father was absent for a lot of her life and she lived in a secluded village in the South Pole. While she was definitely in the wrong in that situation, it’s plain wrong to wash away the stuff she went through by saying other people went through worse. IMO, she’s a well-rounded character and there had to be some moment where she lost her cool a little too much because we saw that buildup throughout the series. Just my opinion, though, and I think your perspective is fair too :)

[@kaleb9135]

@@raine___ Bro this is why avatar is so well written because it gives people the chance to share their conspiracies and analysis. Idk about you but I honestly love reading these because they're so well thought out.

[@goddessrick8734]

She's 14 and actually the most empathic character in the show. Sokka admitted that Katara essentially replaced their mother for him and she didn't die for him so there actually was less of a connection there. Also he did want to let a village die. Aang was born as a monk with a culture that prioritized inner peace and detachment with no family. He had a stronger bond with people he had only known for a few weeks. Toph still had her parents. Zuko was actively trying to capture or literally kill them nearly the entire show.

[@deadsoon]

Not @ y'all forgetting she's a kid in the show that never dealt with her trauma properly and had to become a caretaker and head of the family since a young age, never having guidance as to how to heal those emotional wounds along with being a teen makes you, you guessed it, emotionally stunted and immature. She can't go to therapy and learn how to process the death of her mother and abandonment from her father and loss of her childhood in the middle of the war, can she.

[@hodzal5258]

It’s a double standard a lot of these comments have

[@Marvel.Dcunited101]

That’s because she never tried to deal with her trauma instead she chose to wine and complain their are hate she doesn’t deserve but doesn’t change the fact that when she gets emotional she lashes out at her friends and they take the abuse from her but when they wrong her they apologise 😅

[@malikpierre-louis3343]

That's because she didn't apoligise.

[@coolbeans3752]

SHE NEVER APOLOGIZED!

[@malikpierre-louis3343]

@@coolbeans3752 She probably did but the problem is that it was offscreen.

[@random_name_was_already_taken]

“Stars are beautiful tonight. Too bad you can’t see them, Toph”. Heeeesh

[@craigpeoples9883]

The blind jokes never end

[@genix2686]

GIORDANO LUCENTI It was kinda insensitive for katara to make fun of Toph’s blindness though

[@telescopia4020]

Valegenic everyone did tho-

[@sharpitar6674]

@@telescopia4020 they just forgot toph was blind but never used that in an insulting way against her

[@telescopia4020]

Sharpitar okay that's great but they all pretty much did- you can't just come after katara here

[@mobii3733]

Katara: U dont know wats its like to lose someone u love Aang: I had my whole clan murdered Katara: 👁️👄👁️

[@kitanaedenian2575]

It's completely different. She saw her mother die in a terrible atack. Aang ran away and discovered the tragedy after a 100 years. Their feelings and interactions with the event are totaly different

[@kitanaedenian2575]

@@stayblessed2 But Katara was there in the atack she was searching for her fathrr so she could save her mother. Aang was the Avatar, the most powerfull being on the planet. He should protect people but he ran away and saw the consequences of it 100 years later. Guilty consumed him more tham anything in both scenarios. The both suffered but their pain is very different

[@mobii3733]

i come back a week later and see like 5 argument essasy🤣

[@karenhafeitzdayan6722]

Katara litterally dosent care

[@rinowatson]

@@karenhafeitzdayan6722 lmao she never said that it’s about revenge.

[@Machmaker37]

Isn’t this just a testament to how human all of these characters really are? Like, this just proves how powerful the writing actually is.

[@spacemilk4010]

Katara telling Aang he wouldn’t understand when she literally had calm him down so he wouldn’t kill all of them inside the air temple was the cherry for me on the cake for all of Katara’s outbursts.

[@margarethmichelina5146]

The same thing happened when Aang went rampage to Sand People who stole Appa. It was Katara who calmed him down.

[@ijimenez1951]

Also Katara: i knew you would understand

[@beetlesarecool]

@@ijimenez1951 can you stop?? we’re just discussing problems we had with katara which we are allowed to be because she very obviously pissed off a lot of us we get it you love katara and want to defend her stop replying to every comment pointing out one of her mistakes ://

[@ijimenez1951]

@@beetlesarecool i not telling you are not allowed but i am allowed too.

[@RecoveringChristian]

@spacemilk Air nomads give up their children to be untethered to earthly attachments. Aang never knew or was attached or loved his mom. He never really had one, outside of the biological one who gave birth to him. So, no, he doesn't understand what losing a parent is like. In the same way katara can only understand what losing all the southern water benders is like vs Aang losing all his people. Dude he literally had to give up his attachment to Katara to become effective as the avatar.

[@nathanielegan7547]

Someone: *breathes* Katara: MY MOTHER USED TO BREATHE

[@Katoified]

Nathaniel Egan BRUH LMAO

[@demijones7537]

😂😂😂😂

[@virsacei]

LMFAOOOO

[@strwbrrytskki1054]

you forgot the part where she touches her necklace

[@Gravitti85]

🤣🤣🤣

[@prcs420]

people in the comments are completely ignoring that katara is a 14 year old girl 🙄 a CHILD who lost her mother

[@ijimenez1951]

they didn't get the point of the episode

[@prcs420]

@@LuisRamirez-dl6zw okay 1) she absolutely does not always bring up her mother all the time like i see people say over and over again everywhere. and when she does, it's in an attempt to empathise, connect with, and support others who are going through the same thing. like she did with haru. 2) so what if they're all similar ages? they're different characters. do you expect them to all act identical because they happen to be similar in age? one of the coldest, worst takes i've seen in a while. once again, this is a child you're talking about. she's literally only 14, and also feels directly responsible for her mother's death because she died protecting her. not only that, when she says that hurtful thing to sokka, she's lashing out because there are these things called character flaws, because she's a hormonal teenager, and because she literally heard him saying he doesn't even remember what their mother looks like and admitting he forced katara into a motherly position despite katara being younger than him. she shouldn't have said that, but i understand why she did-especially with the context of such a high emotion, angry situation. sorry you find her deep rooted trauma so annoying though 🙄

[@prcs420]

@@LuisRamirez-dl6zw bruh that's long as hell you don't have to read all that lmaoooo

[@queenrisaisyourenemy9169]

That doesn’t mean that she has to mention it all of the time, it’s annoying.

[@prcs420]

@@queenrisaisyourenemy9169 read my reply before saying dumb shit 🙄🙄

[@potatolegion619]

People who think she's a bad character because of this scene dont know what a character flaw is.

[@kitanaedenian2575]

@@dwzenix7954 naw , Korra is a bad character lol

[@booperdooper9762]

What also upset me is when she made fun of Toph being blind for an argument. I have a little sister with down syndrome and I would never use her disability to bring her down in an argument. While Toph's blindness was a running joke in the series that behavior from Katara was disrespectful

[@sophieberger687]

It's not just that. The many times she just wanted to get just what SHE wanted or couldn't be bothered to trust her own brother... I don't like her. She's bad news

[@Not_J._B]

Sophie Berger when did she use it to get what she wanted?

[@Not_J._B]

@Alenka Chan you forget he switched up in them last time they thought she was okay, and helped Azula kill Aang! Also after chasing them for majority of the show , of course she’ll find it hard to believe that he just randomly wants to help them, Also she made the mistake of trusting jet(who she liked) and almost got a whole village killed , she wasn’t about to make that mistake again

[@drvrdraws]

4:52 - People actually thought katara was more mature??? like sakka was always the voice of reason: but no its a tv show run into a fight with no idea whats going on, hey maybe dont trust the guy who's been trying to kill you

[@eija4487]

I mean personally I do believe Katara is the mature sibling. Especially given her age and the circumstances, even from the first episode we know/learn that Katara has been the one who has not only taken care of her older brother but the whole camp. I feel like his sexist, oblivious, and inconsiderate nature holds him back from being more mature than Katara.

[@Dinnos100]

Katara and Sokka are simply different. Katara is a very emotional person which at times makes her very stubborn. However, she also is very caring and will not turn her back to people in need. Sokka is a misogynistic douche at the beginning of the show but grows out of that and starts to consider everyone's opinions. He transforms from a boy who wants to play leader to an actual leader, stepping out of his father's shadow.

[@VenhedisKaffas]

I think both are just mature for their age. No matter how stupid Sokka can appear, there's no doubt he's one of the smartest people on the show. He single-handedly attempted to protect their village after the older men of the village left and there are moments in the show where it's very clear that he's actually the oldest person of the gaang (besides Zuko and Suki eventually). Katara, on the other hand, is younger but was, like Sokka, forced to grow up quickly. She became a mother-figure out of necessity after the death of their mother. Both of them grew up quicker than others their age. I think this is also why the age difference between Katara, Aang and Toph seems so obvious before they all mature more. Aang matures a lot throughout the show but before he was frozen in ice Gyatso tried to make sure Aang could still be a kid and Toph didn't need to grow up quickly because of how she was raised.

[@Promethazin3]

Neo Redux After the first few episodes he wasn’t any of those things you said he was

[@ng7756]

I've always thought Sokka was the mature one..Most times Katara does act mature, but in some serious times when you look at it, it was really Sokka.

[@khalogqubule5412]

I'm not a Katara stan and this moment was one of the reasons why. Katara's personality is something I can happily accept - hell, I was a Katara simp growing up with this show. My issue, upon rewatch, is that she didn't apologise for her really shitty moments. say what you want, I can understand her being pissed at Aang for being better than her because from experience I was in a lot of situations, and rewatching the series, I could see why Katara got pissed off. What I'm referring to is the blind joke and this mom moment because it killed the mom friend trope for me. Like sure, a lotta people say bad shit when their emotions are boiling over, but fam, you apologise afterwards when you overstep your boundaries. While I respect your decision to assume it was off-screen, I don't like things implied in series. You need to SHOW me stuff like that because that's where character moments come from and where development builds. That and she had no business being in the Agni Kai XP

[@cartooncottage2024]

I always felt like Sokka was the more mature, responsible sibling myself. Katara really lets her emotions guide her actions sometimes and on occasions it just gets so off-putting.

[@ijimenez1951]

Sokka is very underrated imo, i don't think Katara's role was being mature i think her role was being the responsable, caring and sometimes annoying mom. I have heard some people say that he is useless and its just there for the jokes but he is the BRAIN behind Team Avatar.

[@Paulina-yi7xn]

well obviously, sokka's the older sibling lmao.

[@adoresessy101]

I disagree. He was sexist af in the beginning and undermined just how important of a motherly role Katara had to take at a young age. I love Sokka but he was also a very flawed character.

[@6ixlxrd]

@@ijimenez1951 Katara was honestly less responsible than Sokka, objectively speaking. Her strong point was her empathy, which is why everyone places her in the "mother" role: she connects with a character's pain and understands them (she's basically like Naruto but with a necklace instead of a swing). Meanwhile Sokka has priorities, duties, responsibilities to their goals, diligence, persistence, and is overall thoroughly pragmatic with a taste for plans, schedules, and punctuality. He's a comic relief character so his depth is downplayed for comedy, but he's always the most realistic one out of the group, ironically feeling like the only adult one there (I call it the "Squidward Effect"; I used to think Squidward was boring asf and mean when I was little, but now I vibe with everything he says). Whenever they wanted to stop and have fun Sokka was always reminding them how they didn't have time for fun because of what was at stake, essentially stopping them from being "kids". Whenever they trusted people too easily he was always suspicious, got turned on by Aang and/or Katara multiple times, then was ultimately proven right every time (like with Jet: Aang trusted him *immediately* and Katara was head-over-heels in the first 3 seconds). He was the one responsible for risking his life to find out what day the eclipse would take place on, as well as the one who wanted to get the Earth King's help when everyone else wanted to leave, as well as the one who came up with battle plans for "The Day of Black Sun". As you said, he's the brain behind Team Avatar.

[@ijimenez1951]

@@6ixlxrd Katara follows her heart and Sokka follows his head, i think thats the best way to describe them.

[@Netherwolf6100]

It did surprise me, but I hated that while it was about her accepting's Aang's ideology, and accepting Zuko's friendship, she didn't apologize to Sokka for what she said and that's what made me hate her. Her lashing out in anger is fine, I get it, but not owning up to it and just brushing it under the table after we've seen how being separated from their parents affected both of them really bothered me.

[@pepito2847]

People say Katara always shuts down others pain but she doesn’t she talks about losing her mother with people as a way of relating to their pain like with Haru Hama Jet and Aang when he found out the fire nation killed his people. People also don’t like that she didn’t apologize for what she said here but it’s not like it is the first time a character said something harsh to another What about when Zuko called Ty Lee a circus freak and mocked her?!

[@lilianimarah7372]

​@@pepito2847 the diffrence is katara insulted someome in the same siyuation as her and accused them of not loving someone like her zuko only insulted suki and they were in two very diffrent situations

[@pepito2847]

@@lilianimarah7372 But it still hurt Ty Lee and made her breakdown in tears. Ty Lee is more sensitive than Sokka.

[@fraudless1846]

@@lilianimarah7372 They aren't in the same situation mentally though. Since Katara felt directly responsible for her mothers death since she was the one that was being protected whilst Sokka only found out afterwords. It almost seemed like she was suffering from something like survivors guilt and thats why she feels that Sokka is different despite not realising that its for a different reason than just "not loving her as much" due to her anger.

[@RecoveringChristian]

@Netherwolf6100 he was LITERALLY apathetic about justice/vengeance for his mother. He felt nothing. Oh the pos who took my mother away is alive? Meh. Anyway, come here Suki, let's smash. That doesn't make you furious, but an unwarranted apology does.

[@katiemillspaugh7591]

i feel like what a lot of people overlook is that sokka himself talks about how the loss was different for him. he says that katara sort of took over the role of mom in sokka's eyes so his grief was very different from katara this (i'm not necessarily referring to any scene in the video and trying to argue that, just putting my opinion on the general discussion about katara and sokka and the loss of their mother)

[@KaizenKitty]

Yes. That is how i took this scene too. Also it's quite obvious from the show that Sokka has always been closer to their dad Hakoda (who is still very much alive and well), while Katara was closer to their mom. They simply had different bonds with their parents.

[@catzee655]

Yup. She's just a teenager but she had to take over the role of a mother since she's the only female in the family. That's rough

[@Seoyeaji921]

@@catzee655 yup exactly

[@megfleming5706]

I would absolutely be FINE with Katara talking about her mom a lot if it weren't for one thing, and one thing only. Aang only brings up the fact that the airbenders were all killed like twice in the series. I'm sorry but he's a 12 year old child with the weight of the world on his shoulders and he barely talks about the fact that almost everyone he ever knew is dead? I don't believe that. So if they had only had Aang talk about it a few more times, I would be fine with Katara bringing up her mom every other episode. But it's the contrast between them that bothers me.

[@burmiester1]

Zuko's father burned off his face and banished him, his sister tries to kill him at every opportunity and he thought his mother (who by the way he was FAR CLOSER TO than Katara was to her mother) was dead for like a decade. When the hell did Zuko bring up HIS mother? Hardly ever.

[@Verxxsace]

burmiester1 his mom isn’t dead

[@burmiester1]

@@Verxxsace I know. That's why I said "he thought his mother was dead for like a decade" and I was careful to phrase it that way. When Ozai told him she was alive he cried. For years he assumed that she was dead.

[@PredatorH2O]

A kid won't get stuck in thoughts of death and suffering. Soon enough it'll look for the next fun thing to do.

[@mochka9635]

@@burmiester1 this is a good point, but we need to understand kids deal with trauma differently, the gaang all had difficult moments in their life, but we all know katara expressed her anger the most. I think katara has never gotten through the emotional damage of walking in to see her mother dead, she's never been sorted out, she was like 6. zuko has always been in emotional turmoil but was deadass unaware of it for the first 2 seasons, and sokka doesn't want to relive his mom's death, and neither does aang, whom has so much rage he can activate the avatar state when thinking about the genocide

[@jaeD7552]

You forgot the most annoying moment when she disrespected Sakka when he said jet was bad news

[@2lucky53]

Sokka*

[@urmom-cs9nb]

Well in all fairness sokka also said Aang was bad news

[@jaeD7552]

@@urmom-cs9nb because at that time Ang was practically a stranger

[@dango9024]

slow Jaelyn jet was also a stranger though

[@PredatorH2O]

@@urmom-cs9nb But with Aang it was obvious he was just guessing. He actually knew Jet was lying and Katara just believed Jet and not him.

[@ariadne4648]

I never hated Katara for this moment just like i don't hate Aang for yelling at Toph after losing Appa. It's irrational but understandable that she's affected by it more than Sokka was. If anything it seemed in character for her to lash out.

[@sparkyblue7016]

Yeah frr, she didnt do anything bad for people to hate her. Infact she grew out of that mindset and became a better person after her trip. A character can have flaws as long as they get redeemed, if her flaw was never corrected id understand why people hold it against her, But no she grew up!!

[@maldon3659]

What's worse is that Katara used blood bending on that fire nation general and she doesn't even have the same kind of breakdown she had at the end of The Puppetmaster

[@ola-hn4ok]

katara hated blood bending and the fact that she used it on that fire nation general shows how much she absolutely hated her mother’s killer and I believe this act itself says a lot more than any words could ever possibly describe

[@mynameisddotcalm1008]

Well she got used to it.

[@RoyaltoonzHD]

You say that like it's a bad thing, theres this thing called getting used to it and maturing

[@musa8693]

101, I liked, ruined the 100.

[@ItsRemmyy]

@@ola-hn4ok The fact that she would use blood bending on what she thought was the general but not azula who posed a far more serious threat also speak volumes.

[@caitlyn2910]

Sokka is my favourite character along with Azula so when Katara said that I was totally like wtf. Katara stans will hate me for this but Katara is the one in the group that I like the least. I don't think there's anything wrong or bad about her but she's not my cup of tea. I always love the smartest characters over the strongest characters which is part of the reason why I like Sokka and Azula the best. I also love how Sokka is always focused on the main goal in season three. He knew what needed to be done to fix the larger issue and was completely on his side in the painted lady episode. He was sort of like the Gale Hawthorne of that episode.

[@jennybe4766]

I wholeheartedly agree with you and I understand when people say katara's their fav but for me, idk, i really don't care for her as much as the others.

[@imlivinginyourbasement6157]

Yea, I can see why people like Katara, but I just can't help it, I like other team members better

[@jennybe4766]

@Me E gotta disagree, yes, he's the comic relief but he's also the strategist of the group. he planned the invasion and helped plan the attack with sozin's comet. he also constantly reminds everyone of their tight sheduldes. he also broke out of the "inescapeable" prison. he basically plans everything for the gaang and in season 1 he was quite ignorant but he got a lot better throughout the seasons.

[@jennybe4766]

@Me E i mean i believe he is the most intelligent but at the same time the most idiotic character out of the group. but ig let's agree to disagree

[@caitlyn2910]

@Me E have to heavily disagree. Sokka was the one that kept them on schedule when everyone was busy having fun and could see through Jet's plan to destroy the village and Azula's plan in the invasion. He came up with the idea for the submarines and planned the entire invasion as well as coming up with the plan to destroy all those airships in the finale.

[@ijimenez1951]

Gotta say that out of all the fictional characters that influenced me as a little kid, Katara is pretty high on the list. When I first watched ATLA (as a seven year old girl, a few years after the series ended) there weren't a ton of great female characters in child-friendly media. The female Marvel heroes weren't really fleshed out yet, and Disney had only just started making their princesses into actual developed characters. Most female characters were either tagged with Stupid, Morally Righteous, Nerdy, Mean, or Physically Strong, with no further layers. Katara had more depth to her. She wasn't always likeable (she could be pretty intense), but she also had a more fun, gentler side. She was very smart and a fantastic bender, not because of innate ability, but because she developed those qualities. Her leadership skills were great, and she didn't hesitate to call people out when they were wrong, but she also knew when to be more tactful. Growing up, I generally saw the idea that flawless female characters were "good," while troubled ones were "bad." She had some great qualities, as well as some deep flaws, and was therefore one of the first realistic female fictional role models that I saw. Honestly, that was some really fabulous character design, and while rewatching the show as a teenager, I can really see how she influenced my ideas of how to be a "strong female character" in real life

[@ijimenez1951]

OMG thanks for the heart

[@LaptapGamer]

This is legit touching, bc your story is so nice, and all I see is Katara hate, or ppl being passive aggressive towards her.

[@autophagyyuu]

I never liked her honestly. Not that I hated her, just didn't feel anything.

[@waterisok4853]

Kalmiaä I never liked katara either

[@jennybe4766]

same here idk why maybe bc i've never liked the mom friend in friend groups.. i don't hate her and i do appreciate what she's done for the gaang but i am really kinda indifferent about her

[@autophagyyuu]

@@jennybe4766 same same

[@whocares1814]

It was neutral for me too but MAN was she making it difficult to not get annoyed by her in book 3.

[@autophagyyuu]

@@whocares1814 agreed

[@EChacon]

Very interesting take and video analysis on Katara Toonstartez. The moment when Katara got angry at Sokka about their mother really made Sokka physically and internally hurt. Big props to your content.👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@rowanjoy419]

They remember the moment in the episode "the storm" where Aang is sincere and says that he feels guilt for what happened to his people. Remember it was KATARA who helped Aang feel better. Well Katara in the entire show, she never had someone that do the same for her. She did it herself, by not killing the one who killed her mother. I keep saying that she is a good character, very realistic.

[@KaizenKitty]

agreed.

[@fargo1234]

But did Aang say something so mean to anyone? Katara said means words to all of the group without apologizing for it.

[@iiloveboba4497]

ik its hard losing someone you love but come on she doesn't have to bring it up every second it so annoying as well as Katara lost her mother like 5 years ago she needs to move on as well as losing some or feeling hurt isn't an excuse for being a bitch of a sister she need to know how to control her emotions and she acts like no one else lost someone before she was to aang like he was being dramatic for losing his entire race, friends, and parents (i don't mean actually parents i mean people were his parent like figures like the monks) and she lost her mother ONE person and again i get it i lost my grandfather who was so close to me but you don't see me always bringing it up and acting like katara and i also lost him not even 2 years ago yet im not still over here crying and she lost her mother like 5 years ago and her BROTHER even said that she was in the wrong but she said those harsh words and NEVER apologized losing someone isn't an excuse for being a bitch.

[@valerijajovanovic2020]

Katara is amazingly written but this moment still sucks

[@sodacan1090]

@@fargo1234 aang in the desert ep tho💀

[@zacharyvangrack5424]

Ok but like she was literally 14. I could definitely see someone of that age with undeveloped emotional maturity to say what she said. I like Katara because she seems like a real human being to me. Her flaws, her strengths and her growth are all believable. I like imperfect characters who also sometimes have moments of being downright unlikeable. We all have those moments.

[@falkyraizu3063]

literally the entire gang had it harder than katara (the only arguable one as an exception is sokka); they all handled it well; I don't see why defend katara

[@Not_J._B]

Falkyraizu how did toph have it harder?

[@Not_J._B]

ZealousProp actually when she Talks about her mother she uses it as a way to sympathize with others, Aang, jet, her master etc

[@martimking1craft]

@@zazi5305 everyone's have his own way to deal with grief and pain

[@Not_J._B]

@@zazi5305 what actions ?

[@VenhedisKaffas]

I think I don't hate Katara there but she was definitely a bitch at that moment. Katara really crosses the line when she's angry and it's understandable but it doesn't make those occurrences okay. I do hope she apologizes every time she upsets someone. I think Kya's death just affected Katara more obviously than Sokka because 1) Sokka and Katara just have different ways of dealing with that loss 2) It got way more up close and personal for Katara. She saw the one who murdered her mother up close before they took her mother and Katara was also the person they were looking for in the first place and she knows that her mother sacrificed herself for her daughter. I do very much like Katara as a character. She has some very obvious flaws built on trauma but also just general personality traits. But she's also just a good person. I did really want to give Sokka a hug in this scene though. He deserved none of that. Can we have a Sokka appreciation club?

[@ftgihf467]

Yes

[@karma5043]

Toph is my favorite I just love her "i give 0 shits" attitude so much 😂❤

[@Xaizomaiii]

It's her parents fault that she turned out like that kids that are spoiled or had traumatising bad child hood most of the time turn out to have anger issues or bad attitude

[@zazi5094]

SAMME!

[@cynicalbutterscotch6581]

@@Xaizomaiii well also she’s very connected to the element earth- which ties into her personality. She’s, strong and stubborn like a rock.

[@RaWasabi]

I didn’t hate Katara. She felt powerless since she couldn’t do anything when her mother died trying to protect her. Years later she has the chance to “even the score” (even though she was wrong) and everyone she loves and cares about is telling her that she should forgive and basically do nothing, AGAIN. Katara needed to let all that frustration out to grow, to grieve and to heal.

[@ijimenez1951]

@@SoRa-re1yd Didn't Sokka was also about to steal Appa and Sokka himself can't remember his mom so...

[@ijimenez1951]

@@SoRa-re1yd he say he only see Katara as the one who always take care of him...

[@ijimenez1951]

@@SoRa-re1yd he himself said it

[@blueghost4769]

@@SoRa-re1yd i watched the show very recently, and i remember Sokka telling Toph how he doesn't really remember their mother and he always pictures Katara when trying to think of her

[@jakeystarsuper]

Why should katara need to let her frustration out and grow? I bet you don’t tell the same for the other characters

[@whosasking8593]

Katara: “my mom died, it’s so sad” Aang, whose entire nation of people died: (* - *) Guys chill it’s a joke

[@eciripsujiro6191]

Zuko: My mother left me & father burned my face & exiled me from the nation

[@lunalucy7908]

Who's asking Katara* not katana- sorry- I had to-

[@whosasking8593]

Luna Lucy autocorrect is the bane of my existence

[@parabellum2o999]

Because of him*

[@trishahernz7809]

Katara: I knew you don’t understand.

[@pavahinynagalingam127]

This scene made me so mad at her, even though she's one of my favourite characters. But let's not forget the scene where she is trying to learn the water whip and yells at Aang when he was trying to help. I understand you're frustrated Katara, BUT WHY MAKE THE SMOL BOI CRY?

[@gumballwatterson5037]

aang didn't cry

[@allthingslexi6046]

@@gumballwatterson5037 he was about to

[@drfifteenmd7561]

@Rokenrol Bro 2019 so she could teach aang, the lack of braincells is astonishing. aang would've forgave her too if he actually did cry. aang actually forgave her for yelling at him

[@Yukipoong]

She reality say sorry they are kids bro kidssss

[@alliescool1959]

katara: complaining and crying about losing her mom every episode aang: was literally like only sad one episode after learning about his whole freaking race being wiped out.

[@ngumlovered7566]

I don’t think he was only sad one episode he just wasn’t vocal about it bc he found a new family with Sokka and katara.

[@alliescool1959]

@@ngumlovered7566 maybe, but he only expressed it.

[@4k_chase576]

Katara probably brought her mom up 3 times

[@karenhafeitzdayan6722]

I hate that episode

[@andikairwansyah5047]

You forgot when the sand benders took Appa

[@iguesswellneverknow6350]

I think some of y’all are missing the pointe of “ actions can be understandable, but never excusable” I personally didn’t HATE her in this moment, because it was understandable. But you all seem to forget about the second half of the quote🤷🏼‍♀️

[@valerijajovanovic2020]

They excuse it by "she was young". But they were all young. Toph was even younger than her. And you don't see her saying how they don't understand what it's like to have a hard life. Hell, I am near her age. And I would have definitly got judjed for saying anything simular. The fact that she is 14 (correct me if I am wrong) doesn't make words less harmful.

[@LaptapGamer]

@@valerijajovanovic2020 Toph robbed people and almost got the Gang killed by her robbery Zuko killed people and tried to kill aang and the rest of the gang Aang almost killed people when he got upset Sokka Robbed Wan SHi Tang and almost kill everybody in the library Katara hurt her brothers feelings unjustly Your example of Toph is BS bc she did bad stuff too, they are all young and had trauma. They all did bad stuff, but you ONLY look at Katara bc shes not your favorite character. Like stop beng a hippocrit pleaseee.

[@Falinks31]

@@LaptapGamer you're clearly in the wrong if you cannot even spell hypocrite correctly lol. 😂

[@LaptapGamer]

@@Falinks31 You're clearly in the wrong if your only defense is saying I spelled something wrong XD

[@purbasapanigrahi3389]

@@valerijajovanovic2020 toph not talking about her trauma is a part of her personality And all of them did bad stuff... Did you forget when aang blamed toph for appa being stolen Also people remind everyone she is 14 cause everyone excuses aang's hypocrisy with his peace ideology because of his age... They are also fine with azula being a border line sociopath because of her age so whats wrong with katara getting the same treatment

[@avatarfan5002]

That whole problrm could be solved if katara simply said "sorry" to sokka and aang at the end when she forgave zuko

[@djordjecalosevic2571]

Aang: "How do you think I felt about sandbenders when they stole Appa? How angry I was when I found what fire nation did to my people?"

[@162benjamin]

I feel like most people did not GET the motivation behind Katara's actions in the Southern Raiders ep that's why I see a lot camping here showing their hatred which is childish and questionable. The episode was blunt to throw the message that Katara's behavior was wrong and she herself knew this. But Katara saying "Now that I know he's out there, now that I know we could find him, I feel like I have no choice." speaks volumes on how long she waited for this moment. Kya died for Katara, her mother died for HER. Of course, you can't imagine the grief and GUILT she had to carry growing up while also taking care of Sokka, Gran Gran in her old age, basically her whole family because Hakoda is also away. She hated her father so much for leaving them at the worst time in their young lives yet she understood perfectly why he had to. That's why she broke down in tears after confronting him. Katara has this motherly traits because that's all she's ever had to force herself to build while growing up. She's been holding everyone together since they all met but she messes up for a moment and suddenly she's annoying. For instance, she was on Toph's business at first because Toph wasn't cooperating. Granted, that she left a nice life just to teach Aang was a valid reason but she did not want to get into the dynamics of the team she CHOSE to go with. Of course, Katara would be mad, it's like taking care of a teenager with a mature mindset but doesn't want to act like it. You were all in her business for reprimanding Toph but didn't even compliment her for advicing the earthbender master to try a positive reinforcement teaching method that led to Aang standing his ground and finally earthbending. And the other situation where she held the whole team together in the desert when Appa was taken; Aang was too heartbroken to be rational, Sokka was high, Toph couldn't anything BUT KATARA PULLED THEM THROUGH. Even when Aang was yelling at her, she's composed because she sympthatized with him, she felt him. That's why she wasn't shocked and scared that Aang subconsciously entered the avatar state after confronting the sandbenders. She's always trying to see the world in her team's perspective while weighing it with her own. She misunderstands them time to time but at the end of the day, she's always self-reflecting and chooses to take the high-ground by reconciling with them. I am saying this because Katara completely being taken over with the idea of getting revenge on her mother's killer and undermining her morality for a while was, in fact, UNDERSTANDABLE for her character. She's wrong, but that's a given. She's so morally composed that she had to HAVE a FLAW. She's difficult to win over after being wronged because she put her TRUST on people that even endangered her life. She did not trust Zuko right away because he helped Azula and his decision ultimately led to Aang's death. How is that difficult to digest? It should've been given that she'd make it difficult for him BUT she had all the right to do so. Her deciding to go on a travel alone with a man she didn't trust SHOULD have given you ideas how MUCH she wanted that day to come. She got an opportunity and anything in the way to get that would be put on the spot by her. Sokka did not deserve the words Katara said to him but that statement was an emotional outburst because she thought Sokka would agree with her but he did not. Although they're both her children, it's obvious that their GRIEF WAS DIFFERENT. Sokka achieved his closure long ago and started seeing Katara in their mother's place but Katara had to be in this position where her morals were questioned after finding out that the reason for her inner grievances and struggle was out there and she had to take this journey and face him to finally realize that the version of herself facing him now is someone who is too strong to NOT take the life of someone who ruined her. At the end of the day, she learned to forgive and not forgive, Zuko and Yon Rha. This is why it's the ending of her arc.

[@dyzieklalune5536]

Amen.

[@MrFlyfly111]

You said everything that needed to be said. The amount of people still getting mad at her and making fun of her really irks me. And saying they like Toph better because she's "tough girl" makes her seems better the Katara (from what I gather in the comments) since she doesn't "complain" she's a better character then Katara. When really Toph also let's her emotions and immaturity get to her too. She avoided the team's warnings about Zuko and got her feet burned. Even if that was an accident she did it without informing the team and could've been in a even worse position if Katara wasn't there to heal her. I love all the characters and a the mistakes they go through and learn from. Characters don't ALWAYS have to be good or in the right to still be compelling and likable. I can still like Sokka even though he use to be a sexist asshole. I can still like Aang even though his anger towards the gang and his reactions to enemies when Appa was stolen was extreme. I can still like Zuko even tho he is in fact a colonizer and contributed to the genocide and tyranny of the fire nation. And I can still like and even understand Katara because during that episode she's holding back her extreme anger at the guy who tried (and almost succeeded) in killing Aang, he invaded her home and destroyed villages and who knows what else during his conquest (and his family conquests) And his betrayal that really crippled her trust. She's allowed to be angry, shes allowed to be emotionally angry (and I dont see ANY of yall complaining about zukos betrayal and Aangs almost murderous behavior in the desert).

[@dyzieklalune5536]

We need to remember that Katara is younger then Sokka. The younger kids need their mother more than older, especially when Sokka had his father as a warrior idol for him, so his mother wasn't that important. Sokka said that when he try to remember his mother he sees Katara face, becouse she took her role. But who was a mother for Katara? With that it is true that Katara love and miss her mother more than Sokka.

[@ftgihf467]

Thank you!!!

[@silentaria3241]

Yes! Thank you! One of the reasons Katara and Zuko are my favorite characters is because their characters are so complex. I feel most ppl watching this show forget that these are children who grew with war and rage. But Zuko was also a character who had immense flaws, I remember when he would always blow up on Uncle Iroh, even though he knew he loved and cared for him. So why is it that the one moment where Katara is also pushed to an emotional edge any different? Katara is just a very emotional person, and that has its good and bad sides, which makes her a GOOD character. You don’t have to have her as your favorite, but I hate when ppl try to argue she’s poorly written or “too much”.

[@Libtardo123]

I wonder how many guys team Avatar actually killed instead of knocking out/injuring. Aang stated he can never kill before facing the fire lord, but he sank numerous ships, destroyed buildings, blew people away hundreds of yards.

[@thedelordhimselfgokublack]

Don’t forget the guys he buried under a snow avalanche while dropping them from a mountain 😂😂

[@mizraimbautista1546]

Alright u guys might hate me for this but I really hated katara in this episode because she really said that they wouldn’t get it because her mom died.Alright first zuko’s dad wanted to kill him to become fire lord if it weren’t for his mom and then his dad left him a permanent scar that would stay with him for the rest of his life,2nd katara and sokka have the same mom and the only reason sokka doesn’t show or talk about his mom is because he never wanted to relive that moment and for katara to say he didn’t love his mom enough that’s a whole other level of wrong like who would say that especially if it’s their mom,3rd Aang had it the hardest 1st he never met his biological parents and he never will because they died also his whole nation was wiped out and the only thing he has left of his nation is momo and appa and all his old friends he has to think about his old life is bumi who is close to death so comparing katara tragedy to the rest of team aavatar it’s not even close as bad as the rest

[@mj2208]

let’s not compare trauma... trauma is in the eyes of the beholder. the severity of it is a completely personal thing, and not something for outsiders to judge as “not as bad.” What she said was wrong but try to have empathy for her situation. She lost her mother at a young age because her mother sacrificed herself for katara. Katara knew this and most definitely had some survivors guilt. she didn’t know the exact reason why her mom sacrificed herself until later but still. She was forced to become a mother to Sokka’s at age 8. Her childhood was robbed from her. Yes sokka went through the same loss but it’s important to understand that everyone deals with loss and grieves differently. Her grief made her feel isolated and angry whereas sokka put all his energy into being a warrior. They both never had time to process their grief and trauma and because of kataras grieving processes, that left her with a lot of nasty emotions thus causing her to say those things. Hating her isn’t the right response to what she did.

[@slowedscenario1678]

Your right aang had it the hardest because he lost all the people he loved and knew but katara saw her mother die with her own 2 eyes and her mother sacrificed herself for her so she feels like Sokka doesn’t understand

[@lexietither6626]

@Adanna Enyaosa Technically Katara didn’t see her mom die, she saw her when she was alive and ran out of the tent to get help from her father. When they came back, she was gone.

[@cv1042]

Lexie Tither I think when she said she was gone, she meant her mom was dead, meaning she saw her dead body.

[@dawnrosewood7060]

Honestly did get me so mad. She was so selfish in this episode and acted as if she had the worst life possible and tried to make sure they knew that, as if they hadnt suffered before. 🤦

[@tintedpalette653]

I think “that” line is meant to show just how tunneled Katara’s vision gets when she thinks of revenge. Her saying that Sokka wouldn’t relate to her pain is such a baffling moment, because with even a split second of thought the entire statement falls apart. Same thing with Aang, since he is the last survivor of a mass genocide. Factually, she is wrong on all levels and crossed a line she shouldn’t have. So, why did she say it? She is normally a very empathetic person, so it is almost out of character for her. But the thing is, we are seeing her at her lowest mental point so far in the series. We are seeing what she has kept inside her all these years and it’s surging out all at once. Katara acts cruelly to Sokka and Aang because for so many years, she internalized her hatred as the way she grieves for her mother. She wrongfully concludes that Sokka didn’t love their mother as much as she did since he didn’t seem to have the same internal hatred as her. That’s why it’s such a huge deal when she lets her anger out all at once during the rain scene, because once she does she is able to see clearly again. She was able to see that killing would not do anything, and even if she didn’t forgive the killer she kept her integrity till the end. As much as “that” line makes me cringe because of how awful it is to say to someone, it does a great way to establish how aggressive and vindictive she can be at her worst. It isn’t until she releases her anger was she able to act as her true self, rather than a vessel for her revenge. My biggest gripe is that Katara 100% should have apologized to Aang and Sokka for belittling their hardships. Even if it was as simple as a hug, or a “I’m sorry,” it would have been better than nothing. I don’t know if they ran out of time because Katara had to reconcile with Zuko or what, but it is a little strange that such a heavy moment early in the episode is left hanging indefinitely.

[@lukedeakin7124]

She also had alot more guilt because she was the last one to see her mother alive

[@pn2294]

Katara reconciling with Aang and Sokka would be fluff Even if she did it’s not important to the episode

[@blackrull1981]

@@lukedeakin7124 Not only that, her mother died to protect her as she is the only waterbender left.

[@lukedeakin7124]

@@blackrull1981 at least in the southern water tribe

[@silvereyes242]

At what point did Katara belittle Aang or Sokka’s hardships in that conversation? All she said to Aang is that “he wouldn’t understand” and to an extent she is correct. Aang never grew up with a mother or a father, and whilst his people were indeed killed, he wasn’t present for that traumatising event. Katara actually saw her mother’s killer and what was left of her mother after she had been killed. Not to mention that Kya died to protect Katara, not Sokka. After Kya’s death is was Katara who took on all her responsibilities like the cooking, cleaning, sewing and even town midwifery. She even helped Sokka hunt as well. Comparitively, the loss of their mother had a much more profound effect on Katara’s life than Sokka, since she had to be strong and mature for him in that situation. Of course I’m sure Sokka loves their mother just as much, however I do see Katara’s point. Not to mention that it’s rich of Aang to get all high and mighty with Katara about “not seeking revenge”. Which is what she knew would happen and why she said “I knew you wouldn’t understand” because she knew Aang wouldn’t be understanding of her need to face the man who killed her mother. Which is ironic when he got to have his revenge on the sandbenders after kidnapping Appa, and also blew Katara and Sokka off the mountainside after discovering what happened to Gyatso.

[@okamikashikoi4738]

It honestly didnt shock me when i first watched it. Mind you, i was 14/15 when i first watched the show. I had been forced to take the maternal role for my two sisters when i was 12, and no one seemed to care about them or their safety except me. So when she blew up at sokka for not loving their mother THE SAME WAY she did (not that he didnt, just that it wasnt the same), i related to that. My mother would constantly complain to other people that she did everything and we were lazy when in reality i was raising my sisters, taking care of our mother, and trying to keep them from killing eachother because one of my sisters and our mother were bat-shit psychotic. Katara was forced to step up and act like a mom to sokka. In an earlier episode, he even admits he cant remember their mother. That when he tries, all he sees is katara. Dispite being the younger sibling, maybe even because of it, she held onto the vision of their mother with a tighter grip than he did. Listen to her again. "You didnt love mom THE WAY i did." Not accusing him of NOT loving their mother. Just stating a fact that, while yes was hurtful, was still a fact. And we could argue that the only reason hes the more mature of the two is because katara gave up learning to be an adult to make sure he got all of the life lessons. Being forced to be the parent, she ignored what she needed to be mature to make sure he had he opportunity to get what he needed. This is the one time she breaks. The one time she needs something, and they try to tell her no. Ang didnt even ask if she was wanting revenge, he immediately assumed that just because she felt like she wanted to kill this man that she would follow through without question. Undermining her and her true character.

Katara: You would never understand The fire nation took my mother away. Zuko: had an abusive dad who BURNT his face and lost his mother Aang: Lost his whole culture to fire nation Sokka: Lost Yue AND his mother Iroh: Lost his son Toph: Born blind and her parents treat her like a weak baby who needs protection 24/7 Azula: Her father never really loved her, used her a war machine and her mom loves Zuko more, her friends betrayed her. Lost her sanity Appa and Momo: The last species of their kind. Sure, Katara 😑👍 P.S BEFORE Y'ALL COME AT ME I LOVE KATARA SHE'S AWESOME. I'm trying to say most of the atla characters are broken and hurt in some way or the other and Katara acts like she's the only one who had a damaging past. I'm not invalidating katara's trauma in any way. Just saying she could be more understanding.

[@nepptuness]

comparing other people’s trauma is not ok to do, just because other people have experienced more pain and deaths in their life than the other person does not mean they don’t have the right to still be traumatized. everyone handles situations/traumas differently, that’s why katara and sokka had completely different affects. this makes her characters actually pretty realistic. i mean yeah, what she did say to sokka wasn’t right and was completely uncalled for, but ever since her mom died she had to take on the motherly figure without a choice and no one could tell her what she was doing right or wrong. she didn’t even grieve properly as hakoda had to leave after her mother’s death which made her angry.

[@ryandbec]

I thought this was kinda funny 😅

@@ryandbec THANK YOU :)

[@Ka5mir]

@@nepptuness u right but to say that none of them understand how it felt and to tell her own brother that he didn’t love her the way she did is not ok at all but I understand where u coming from

[@nkhs1903]

@@Ka5mir when she told Aang u won’t understand and told his brother that they killed his mother, Katara legitimately sawwww her mother burn to ashes in front of her, her mother died trying to protect them, anndddd by wut she meant to Aanggg was u won’t undertsand wut it feels like to want revenge so badly.

[@ashebennett7726]

Honestly, Katara is suppose to be one of the most compassionate characters on this show but I didnt see that until later in book 3. I can understand her feelings, but that seems to be that's mostly what it's about: HER feelings. She can feel some sympathy for others, but not empathy. She mainly understands people's feelings based off of her misfortune, but not understand their pain as if she were having them herself. Like, how Aang was actually understanding Katara's feelings as if he were experiencing her feelings himself, while she accused Aang of all people for not understanding hers. You mean the boy who lost not just a whole clan, but a whole race!? WTF Katara!? Aang tried to coax Katara about dealing with her issues and she tried to make him feel better about killing someone and got frustrated when he walked off. And that was after her confrontation with her mother's killer. She couldn't bring herself to kill that man either. Aang is a child who lost a whole entire race, and was forcfully dragged into fighting a war and was expected to abandon all morality to commit homicide and she tells him he doesn't understand HER pain and gets frustrated with him when he was experiencing anxiety and stormed off. Screw Sokka's feelings, screw her dad's feelings (and he had to go to war not too long after his wife's death), and screw Aang's feelings and everyone else's feelings, because if she's feeling bad, well then you don't want her to feel bad. I don't want to trash on a tragic character for their trauma and who didn't learn to cope with it in a healthy manner, that's not what I'm trying to do. Though trauma is an explanation, not an excuse. It isn't excusable for horrid behavior towards people who basically experienced trauma as well and are trying to cope with the pain themselves, not just her. Her trauma gives reasons for her actions, but those reasons are still ultimately selfish. I don't like how she is constantly excused for her behavior. Even towards those who did her no wrong. Sometimes it feels like she ignores other people's problem and would rather focus on her own personal issues. Now don't get me wrong, I love characters that aren't perfect. I love characters with flaws, but most of all, I love characters who acknowledge these flaws. I did start appreciating her more after this episode and I'm happy for her when she was given closure after facing her mom's killer. Especially the part where she coaxed Zuko to talk to his uncle for the first time in a long time and put Azula in her place.

[@ashebennett7726]

@Elio yeah. It's like a person with a small splinter in their finger tells a man with a cluster of swords in his back, "you don't understand my pain", but the man with the cluster of swords in his back actually shows empathy towards them since, wouldn't you know it, they actually experienced that pain tenfold. The person with the splinter would just rather feel sorry for themselves. I know this was a weird example but I'm a wierd person. Lol.

[@ashebennett7726]

@Elio thank you. And same here.

[@XiaoFury]

After the Southern Raiders episode, I really didn't like Katara as much as I once did...pretty much for all you said. I don't like how she treated her dad in the first episode of Season 3 either. She was giving her dad sharp answers and being rude to him, and when Aang asked if she was angry with her dad, she was oblivious to her own behavior! She made up and explained her anger, but sheesh...the directors sometimes made Katara act awfully selfish whenever her feelings were hurt.

[@ashebennett7726]

@@XiaoFury yeah, I pretty much rolled my eyes during that episode. He didn't want to leave but he had to and after losing the love of his life not too long ago. Like I said, she only understand pain based off of her own misfortune, not others pain as if she feels them herself even though she knows what it's like.

[@p1p1pupu]

Exactly. Trauma is different for everybody. People have different lives and situations. Comparing trauma is the most toxic thing someone could do. Comparing and coping are two completely different things. It helps no party involved.

[@hartsneed2701]

The first part makes me really happy because my personality is literally a 98% match with hers and I feel very understood and happy.

[@Miss_Jackson251]

Sokka: I miss my mom... Katara: _my mom_

[@hiitsarts_6376]

Yall simps say you feel bad for her. Like SHE CANT JUST SAY THAT! if sokka said that to katara, yall would never forgive him. Either thats sexist or simps. I like karatra but that moment was bad.

[@ijimenez1951]

I also like Karatra 😅

[@nkhs1903]

I understand u like Karatra but we kinda talking bout Katara here😅😅😅

[@doofusdog2663]

this video is literally about katara oh my god

[@tomnorton4277]

Katara's my second favourite character in the series after Azula but she was a total bitch for several episodes in Season 3. Most of her bitchiness was aimed at Zuko but what she said to Sokka was inexcusable. They should have shown her apologising because that was a terrible thing to say and could have permanently damaged her relationship with her brother.

[@cv-2954]

@@tomnorton4277 Okay, I agree that what she said to Sokka was totally wrong, but you’re really going to tell me her anger at Zuko isn’t justifiable?

[@ijimenez1951]

Katara's haters need to stop... In recent years with the new generation of avatar viewers, an alarming amount of unnecessary hatred towards Katara has grown, at first I did not give it a mind as they only made fun of Katara mentioning her mother a lot similar to how some people made fun of of Zuko's honor, but then they began to spawn comments about how Katara was annoying everywhere for no reason, they just left that there and left, and in these times a genuine hatred for Katara has arisen (whose reasons are very pathetic and can quickly contradict) the first reason for hatred is that according to some she is very annoying. And really, how can you be sensitive enough to be bothered by a character whose personality doesn't revolve around being annoying like Sakura from Naruto?. The second reason (the most pathetic of all) is that according to some it bothers them how she mentions her mother all the time, those who say this have not seen the series because Katara only mentioned her mother FIVE TIMES in the entire series and According to some what bothers them is that she mentions her mother as if it were only hers, which could not be further from the truth, because the few times that Katara mentioned her mother she always said Sokka and I or our mother, but we continue. The third reason is that according to some their powers grow too much because of the plot, and it really is as if after 15 years they had not seen the series. Katara was a prodigy in her own right, she alone without training discovered the basic principle of waterbending which is "push and pull" or like when she discovered healing innately that as Jeong Jeong said is a sign of being a great bender, without Telling that she had a lot of raw power as a result of her emotions in a few days with professional training she managed to be in line with some of the most powerful benders and even after her training she only managed to defeat Zuko under the full moon, she was defeated by that earthbender general, and she only managed to be at the level of Azula at night (probably full moon), and if so many are concerned about the plot because they do not question Aang dominating all the elements innately even earth, in short they should be grateful that they have a character female as good as Katara unlike other franchises.

[@cnecamp]

People forget the entire series takes place in a little over a year. The first season alone is only a few months at the end of which she is considered enough of a master to continue teaching the AVATAR water. I seriously cannot believe the amount of hate she has been getting in recent years. I stopped following so many ATLA accounts because it was so frustrating.

[@ijimenez1951]

@@queenrisaisyourenemy9169 criticism have to be based on arguments and people here are just saying slander jokes and pues.

[@Swirlss321]

Alot has to do with sexism as well. The general public like to always pin the female as the bad one. Whereas Zuko has literally killed people, torn down villages, stolen, and hurt people ( Mai, Ty lee ) throughout the series, yet he gets a free pass. Katara has one flaw and immediately everyone hates her. Double standards smh.

[@sadbread3797]

@@Swirlss321 Finally someone said it!And yeah I mean,Zuko had character development and I love Iroh but people act like they hadn't done anything wrong,the new generation of avatar fans should stop hating Katara and think she mentions her mother 24/7,

[@fleeting188]

how funny katara and sakura are both ESFJs and i hate them both haha

[@leowang8961]

aang: my whole culture, family, friends, mentors, were all wiped out katara: but my mom still died don't get me wrong I do like katara and can empathise with her on this issue but, yea

[@kitanaedenian2575]

Aang ran away and discovered that after a 100 years had passed. It doesn't compare

[@leowang8961]

@@kitanaedenian2575 still

[@wavyysunde1956]

Kitana Edenian ur acting like he was there those 100 years, for him he discovered it like a week or two after running away

[@soccer4207]

6:40 "Katara kisses Zuko." Hahaha well played. Though I wonder how exactly Katara apologizing to her brother leads to her kissing Zuko. It sounds weird.

[@sofvpgn]

Soccer! 𝚕𝚘𝚕

[@lexietither6626]

Ok but in general I don’t like Zutara. The creators themselfs said it will never happen and their relationship was supposed to be “ Enemies Can become friends.”

[@rookc.8875]

@@lexietither6626 I can respect that. I really don't care about ships that much so I like people who's just chill like you lmao.

[@teodoraslozoraitis7409]

i never hated katara even in this moment. It simply showed that she was grieving and traumatised over the loss od her parent, something she personally witnessed, and it also showed that despite her kind, nurturing motherly, side, she had a darker side. Yes, what she said to sokka was hurtful, but given her situation it was definetely understable. I say this because i can relate to her in this moment. Iwon I have personally said something very hurtful to my father, last summer ( while i was 22)all because i was insensitive and selfish. And that was nothing compared to the giref over losing one's parent. the viewers shoudn't hate katara, point out that she did wrong, yes. but hating her is way out of line.

[@mj2208]

that moment didn’t make me hate her, it actually broke my heart. like yeah it was wrong of her to say those things and they were hurtful to both sokka and aang but to me it showed just how isolated her grief and trauma made her feel. it’s truly a tragic moment. when it comes to katara too many people lack empathy. acknowledging what she said was wrong while also recognizing, understanding, and validating her pain are two things that can and SHOULD coexist.

[@SurenBhandari32]

Yes I completely agree. She was isolated in her suffering and grief over the mother's last moments not Sokka. Sokka definitely felt the loss on equal terms but it's different with her because the grief that Katara carried throughout her life seems to be not shared by Sokka who didn't see his mother in a state of terror. On top of that he responds to the possible confrontation with the murder as something he doesn't care much about, and this is what caused her to be so baffled by Sokka's apparent lack of strong feelings.

[@mj2208]

Vibecheck Exactly!!!

[@Nimbus3690]

Yea that's all dandy, we can get to that after she apologizes properly to sokka

[@SurenBhandari32]

@@Nimbus3690 Has Sokka's character ever shown apologizing to Katara for being sexist? I thought so.

[@Nimbus3690]

@@SurenBhandari32 The sexist teasing was more a sibling squabble, not relationship-scarring stuff like the hurtful thing Katara said. You are comparing Katara's mild irritation to Sokka's heartbreak. Clearly, you took more offense to his childish sexist teasing than Katara herself.

[@aragorniielessar1894]

Speak for yourself i never hated Katara. or any of the other characters in the show.

[@ThatGuyLegend]

Not even ozai?

[@LM-ix7pk]

N0st4lg14 l3g3nd Ozai can burn in hell along with Sozin

[@ThatGuyLegend]

@@LM-ix7pk luckily he's a fire bender

[@burmiester1]

@@LM-ix7pk Same with Zhao, Azulon, Long Feng and Azula. Horrible people who deserved their fates.

[@ThatGuyLegend]

@@burmiester1 idk about azula, she was manipulated by ozai and atleast azula is redeemable

[@ricardozelaya4742]

Honestly, I never hated her when she said it I understand why Katara said it she was never able to fully heal from that tragic event in her life. Her brother was able to because he had Katara to act like the mom in the family but no one did that for her. Katara always put her feelings and pain aside for others. It does not excuse her what she said to her brother and friend but at least I understand what she’s coming from, and those who cannot understand she instead take a step back and look at her story from the beginning before, hating on this poor, broken young woman..❤

[@angelb8317]

Hearing Sokka’s shock after Katara says this makes me so sad

[@skyrogue1977]

The whole vengeance thing also makes Katara a hypocrite, which is always annoying.

[@ijimenez1951]

Is not hypocrite wtf

[@AUG_Glow]

@@ijimenez1951 it is wtf

[@ijimenez1951]

@@AUG_Glow Why?

[@Ka5mir]

@@ijimenez1951 aang was about hurt the sandbenders for trading appa she stops him but when he try’s to stop her she lashes out at him also u don’t have to defend katara in every comment it’s annoying

[@ijimenez1951]

@@Ka5mir and who was there for Aang? Yes Katara is the same thing now

[@rootru6631]

"Because they hate realistically written characters or whatever." LmAo preach!

[@TheKingOfSpooks]

I think some people are assholes, does that mean I hate realistic acting people?

[@craigpeoples9883]

@@TheKingOfSpooksFacts even though I hate the Katara hate

[@k.d3983]

@@TheKingOfSpooks are they an asshole for the sake of being an asshole,or do you see them as being an asshole when they were doing something out of line in the heat of the moment?

[@TheKingOfSpooks]

@@k.d3983 This wasn't a reference to just this specific clip, just Katara overall as a character because people do not dislike her for "being realistic or whatever". I don't like her, I don't like Vanya from umbrella Academy either but it has nothing to do with me disliking realistic characters! And same with most people, you don't have to suck a character d*ck just because their realistic. Not all people like all people they meet. For example I know I girl, she's a snarky shit, I find her to be an asshole but some people I know like her because she's funny and does not come off the same way to them as to me. People have the right to hate a character you love and have their own personal reasons and you have the right to love them. Most people dislike Katara for meny other things then just this one instance of losing it but no one, either the Katara lover or haters seem to see any colours beyond black and white when it comes to her.

[@JacobsonCinema]

Didn't Sokka say at one point that he forgot what his mother's face looked like?

[@beckyhartley9502]

He did and that he was glad he had his sister play a maternal role for him and that he's lucky to have her look out for him.

[@imlivinginyourbasement6157]

So that's how you excuse her words? Damn

[@JacobsonCinema]

@@imlivinginyourbasement6157 XD "evily"

[@Not_J._B]

Lm mL her words were out of anger everyone says something they don’t mean when they’re angry

[@dragonballzgirl297]

Thegamehead Jmb I don’t 😂

[@doop6460]

Ok but really Aang didn’t talk about, you know, HIS ENTIRE CULTURE GETTING WILED OUT every other episode. I pretty much hated her that entire episode

[@emilyweiss1765]

yeah legit Aang basically never mentioned his trauma throughout the show :(

[@ijimenez1951]

Aang is so weird

[@oarlo7551]

Aang: had his whole nation wiped out, doesn’t know his biological parents, is 100 years late to a devastating war, and the added stress of beating the firelord before the commit comes Katara: *i kNew yOu woUlnDnt uNdeRstaNd*

[@nkhs1903]

You wouldn’t understand how bad it feels seeing your mother die trying to protect you and how much I want revenge on them, how much grief I have everyday for knowing my mom died bc of me

[@RecoveringChristian]

@oAria Aang never knew, never loved, never was attached to his parents, just as his parents were never attached to him. Unlike Katara who was. So no, Aang can never understand what losing a mother you love is like. Period.

[@oarlo7551]

@@RecoveringChristian but he felt the grief of losing monk gyatso who was a parent figure to him and when he saw his skeleton he was in so much pain and grief he went into the avatar state, and when he was with the guru and he asked to let go of grief, we saw all the air bending masters shatter/vanish

[@Wildtooth-mg9sl]

@@nkhs1903 My fucking Parents died infront of me in a car crash I watched them bleed out And I don’t ever say oh my parents this oh my parents that JUST GET OVER IT

[@Hana-gc9wc]

I wasn't mad at Katara for this and here's why: Everybody handles trauma differently. Take Sokka for example, he didn't mention his mothers death a lot. It affected him, of course, but he handled it differently than Katara did and I think that's s u p e r realistic. I think if the writers made them both have the same reaction it would ruin it, but that's just me. Yeah, Zuko's father tried to kill him and ended up leaving a permanent scar to his face and Aang's entire family and nation wiped out. But one thing to not do, is compare other people's trauma. Katara took hers and Sokka's mothers death in a different way and I'm honestly glad they did that. It added more to the storyline. Anyways thanks for coming to my TED Talk. :') ♡♡

[@milic5749]

This is what I was thinking the whole time scrolling through these comments and seeing all the snarky comparisons to the trauma that Sokka, Aang, and Zuko went through. Just because they all had the same or "worse" things happen to them doesn't mean Katara shouldn't be allowed to be upset about and talk about her mom. I see those kinds of comparisons on the internet all the time with real people, and it's annoying then too. Yes, there are people starving and caught in the middle of wars out there in the world today. Your social media friend is still allowed to complain and cry about a bad day at work.

[@TheKingsTrueWitness777]

@@milic5749 That doesn't make her outburst ok though

[@AvExCams7]

"Yeah, Zuko's father tried to kill him and ended up leaving a permanent scar to his face and Aang's entire family and nation wiped out. But" LMFAO

[@milic5749]

@@TheKingsTrueWitness777 I agree that it wasn't ok, but all the characters have handled their problems in ways that are not ok, and that's good, because it would be a totally different and boring show with hardly any plot otherwise. So the singling out of this one while making fun of Katara for it because "lol her problems aren't even that bad compared to everyone else's" is what's annoying about the reaction to it.

[@bakugousbear3903]

I never liked Katara, she always annoyed me. Mostly because she always complained about her mom even though everyone around her was going through the same thing yet she still acted like she was special. This episode just proved me right🤷‍♀️

[@ijimenez1951]

she mention her mother six times in the show so ....

[@ActuallyOnesie]

DEKU!!! Everyone: I don't see deku here yet DEKU!!!

[@theoptimisticpessimist5227]

She didn’t. She onl ever brought up her mother to comfort and relate to other characters when they were talking about a loss. She didn’t just bring her mom up randomly. Her mom was a huge motivator to help aang and even pursue water bending. Zuko brings up his honor twenty times more than katara brings you her mother. She doesn’t think she’s special but she’s gone through trauma and she’s not afraid to share that. It’s actually healthy to talk about it instead of keeping it in

[@nkhs1903]

First of all, Katara saw her mother burn to ashes which Sukko didn’t, her mother burnt to ashes in front of her damn eyes trying to protect her so it’s a huge grief knowing your mother died bc of u Second, She legit mentioned her mother 6 times in the whole show Third, Katara has been like a mother since their parents died, she was like a damn mother at the young age of 12, us 12 hr old can’t even handle our you her siblings and she took care of them everyday and took the place of a mother, sukko cant remember his mother, when he thinks of mother all he can think of is Katara Lmaooooo

[@ActuallyOnesie]

@@nkhs1903 but katara didn't actually watch her mom die. But she was there

[@sharxx112]

Katara: nobody knows how it feels to lose a mother Sokka: I literally lost the same mother- Katara: Shut up Sokka

[@michellejohnson9177]

Well Katara remembers their mother’s face too sooo…

[@braylonbeier2232]

You should have at least 1 mil subs bro, YOU ARE QUALITY

[@ToonStarterz]

Lol thanks! It's a work in progress.

[@cam-pt7xz]

am i the only one who just HATED katara through the last season

[@morrishafeitz4524]

No. i hate her so much not kidding

[@seleneasteria6603]

Why do you hate her though? just asking

[@shinobireign11]

Rishav Roy actually she was justified to hate zuko since she was the one who first TrUsTeD him again and he betrayed that trust you know how hard it is to forgive? That’s not a valid reason. Also she’s the motherly figure of the group and you should expect her to act as such. She was actually one of my fav characters that season

[@seleneasteria6603]

@@shinobireign11 That's what I've noticed too, Katara was loathed for acting like a mom in the group but Zuko as a father figure was praised a lot. Katara isn't perfect and has flaws like any realistic person would. She is driven by emotions which that makes her stronger.

[@shinobireign11]

ur mom in my opinion her growth is underrated as a bender as well as a character

[@sladeclegane9709]

Technically, she’s not wrong. Sokka told Toph (and Katara overheard) that he doesn’t remember what his mom looked like and he pictures Katara as his mom. Katara doesn’t just think Sokka didn’t love their mom as much as she did, she has evidence. Still pretty rude, though.

[@anushkaalt102]

Of course Sokka loved his mother, that was just plain cold of her to say

[@jakeystarsuper]

Dude katara never said that Saka didn’t love his mother just not the way that she did. There’s a difference.

[@jasonlang9074]

I didn’t hate her in the moment because I understand how she felt. She didn’t mean it but not everyone has it together 100% of the time. She was still a kid

[@kaylarizz]

Sokka: we lost our mother to the fire- Katara: *my* mother.

[@LshowKnows]

I like seeing some one point out the obvious twist in Katara and Sokka´s relationship, that other people seem to forget. When they are doing GAang things, Katara is always the mom-responsible figure and Sokka´s the class clown, but just like you said, Katara has a hot temper and has a lot of childish behaviours (well she´s a child after all) but in those moments, Sokka´s the one who shows how mature he really is. A common thing I noticed is that Katara doesn´t know how to speak with adults, she tens to lash out and even talk back escalating a lot of situations, unlike Sokka who can always have conversations with said adults and change their opinions

[@SurenBhandari32]

I just think it's funny how Katara gets bashed for her selfish moments as if she can't be human, yet Zuko is so easily forgiven, admired, and babied because he "redeemed" himself, as if his atrocious moments of betrayal and evil aren't somehow 10 fold worse than Katara's smaller moments of selfishness. Zuko-the-little-sasuke-wannabe b*tch isn't bad because he helped the Gaang all the way at the end of the war but Katara is bad and annoying because even though she was a critical factor in saving the avatar and helping the Gaang from day one, she had moments where she was emotional. Right.

[@ub8dullr676]

I think why I find katara annoying sometimes is because of her place in the show Everyone in team avatar is imperfect in ways but she seems like she has the most moments of imperfection and just straight up rudeness and no one is there to tell her When someone is wrong and needs to overcome their flaw katara will be the first person to lash out at the (physically with water) or slap them or something but no one is there to do that to katara It makes me want to jump in the screen and tell her herself when she fucks up like this because no one does so E. G. When katara wanted to help that town in book 3 she is in the wrong here no doubt - they risk their mission for a town they can save among all others by defeating the fire lord - it only worked by like But why was the portrayal that katara is a sweet angel and sokka is selfish and not as caring 'Sokka you really do have a heart' Like I don't hate her but she is just unnecessarily bitchy sometimes and no one puts her in her place and if the show just had sokka tell her off a few times too she would be much more better

[@PinkyGreen_Tea]

Thank you Thank you Thank you I’m so glad I’m not the only one who remembered all this stuff

[@sadiqiant2820]

How come u blame katara for helping poor village but not aang for playing and dancing with fire nation kids?

[@ub8dullr676]

@@sadiqiant2820 tru aang is fault for that but aang was never my focus here lmao

[@ijimenez1951]

@@ub8dullr676 You guys make such a big deal out of nothing, first of all Sokka was being selfish leaving all that poor people, was Katara the one who save them and they finish spending more time after this episode so theres no argument to hate Katara on this episode.

[@ub8dullr676]

@@ijimenez1951 well that episode really isn't the focal point of why I find her annoying but on that topic - the only reason why saving that village worked out is because of katara kindness plot armour Sokka wasn't bieng selfish he was bieng sensible and realistic - they will SAVE every village when they defeat the fire lord so risking their cover to help one isn't worth - it just happend to work And now see sokka looks like a selfish idiot for suggesting they shouldn't when he is the only one who thinks with his head and not his heart

[@nafsi8519]

I hate that she never apologized.

[@tracieburch2996]

True

[@hasogon]

The stars are nice tonight TOO BAD YOU CAN'T SEE THEM TOPH

[@yankee1147]

Me as a kid: She's so mean and annoying. I hate her Me as a teen who can actually think and process things now: I take back everything I ever said about her. I love and is one of my favorites

[@hadassah4480]

I hated katara (no offense) every single time she met someone she immediately trusted them and put her friends in danger. She brings up her mom in arguments like other people didn’t go through tough times. She was veryyyyy annoying. And for her to blame Zuko for her moms death he was not even off age at the time how was he responsible.

[@karenhafeitzdayan6722]

Anyone:breathes Katara:my mother used to breathe