The ONLY 4 Language Learning Apps That Work | Delete the rest!

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Olly Richards

Olly Richards

Күн бұрын

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@storylearning
@storylearning 3 жыл бұрын
Remember to find out about the App Villain after watching: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qoKwp4mlf9hgm6s
@AdamDylanMajor
@AdamDylanMajor 3 жыл бұрын
Is reading the book of Genesis in your target language a good strategy for learning? It seems to me that the kind of vocabulary in Genesis is very diverse and suited for narrating one's own stories
@udornyc
@udornyc 3 жыл бұрын
So, Olly! I watched a lot of your videos now, and went to buy the Spanish course for $97. I did a few upgrades and want to finalize the purchase. *HOWEVER* the button leads me straight to your Funnel system, which I do not have the slightest interest to try it out and it seems that there is no way to check out the Spanish material unless I try that Funnel system for 2 weeks. I've scrolled up and down and was looking for a way to get out of that loop. I have to say, although I really enjoyed and want to buy your system, the fact that I am apparently forced to accept that Funnel trial before I can buy the Spanish course, leaves a bitter taste in my mouth! If I am doing something wrong, let me know, I hope that this is a glitch!
@jackiepapers3143
@jackiepapers3143 2 жыл бұрын
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@clisaa6974
@clisaa6974 3 жыл бұрын
1.Content Apps-newspapers ,blogs, LingQ, kindle,podcast. 2.Language Exchange-HelloTalk,Tandem. 3.Flashcard Apps-anki,quizlet,Flashcard deluxe with spaced repetition. 4. Script learning apps- Skritter
@sorenrl3089
@sorenrl3089 3 жыл бұрын
Came looking for this. Thank you.
@tonythegreat4275
@tonythegreat4275 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@FledgedPhoenix
@FledgedPhoenix 3 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@emcquesten
@emcquesten 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. He took a long time to get to the point.
@vali69
@vali69 3 жыл бұрын
Technically we can also add dictionaries right?
@sandydegener6436
@sandydegener6436 3 жыл бұрын
The title should have read: "The only 4 KINDS OF language Learning Apps That Work."
@zamiaramirez1390
@zamiaramirez1390 3 жыл бұрын
You dont need to put kinds of. The sentence reads fine as is
@user-nk8zx1yw8s
@user-nk8zx1yw8s 3 жыл бұрын
@@zamiaramirez1390 it doesn’t
@thechloromancer3310
@thechloromancer3310 3 жыл бұрын
@@zamiaramirez1390 Nah, I came in expecting actual ap names. Was wondering if he had any specific insight into how effective each ap was, and whether mine made the cut. As he did not do this, the video is essentially not useful for me.
@lieutenantkettch
@lieutenantkettch 3 жыл бұрын
Without "kinds of" the title is ambiguous, it can refer to types of apps, or it refer to SPECIFIC apps.
@eashimi
@eashimi 3 жыл бұрын
Click bait title... i automatically down vote videos that do this.
@AmbiCahira
@AmbiCahira 3 жыл бұрын
I would argue that especially for language learning beginners it is equally beneficial to have any app you actually find fun and motivating even if it may not be the most efficient per minute. If you cram and cram and cram efficiency before you've grown a passion for it you will just burn out so finding less efficient but more playful and fun can be crucial success wise. Guilty pleasures ftw. ^^
@silenceb4thunder
@silenceb4thunder 3 жыл бұрын
So true
@KN-ul5xe
@KN-ul5xe 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. It help tremendously to have something you LIKE doing.
@SillyOmega
@SillyOmega 2 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@duskdawn8054
@duskdawn8054 2 жыл бұрын
Any suggestions? I want to learn French and I’ve been dabbling in it for a while but I always, as you said, burn out eventually. I’m ready to try again now that I have a better overall discipline and I think a fun app that makes learning into a game will help on those low motivation games. Any ideas are greatly appreciated 😊
@AmbiCahira
@AmbiCahira 2 жыл бұрын
@@duskdawn8054 You can find French youtubers/tiktokers/streamers etc that you become motivated to understand one day and practice listening, you can find books, games, music etc in French too to up the motivation/fun and as for apps try whatever you get your hands on and see if it's any sort of fun. I have some word puzzle game apps installed for my target language and it doesn't actively teach me new words but it practices word recognition and reading especially if I try to beat a high score. Webtoons is another guilty pleasure option that might not be all that crammy but can give visual aid while getting into reading and a lot of webtoons are pretty dialogue based so some slice of life ones while being more boring can give really good vocab. Finding fun content is like being a scavenger, you try a little this and that and see what is fun spending time on. I like wasting some time on drops mornings and evenings personally because it's pretty gameified but can get my mind into the language mindset in the morning or relax unwind in the evening. Try whatever you can find and see what happens!
@juancpgo
@juancpgo 3 жыл бұрын
1. Content apps (e.g. Le Monde, Medium, LingQ, Kindle, Podcast) 2. Language exchange apps (e.g. Tandem, HelloTalk) 3. Flashcard apps with spaced repetition (e.g. Flashcard Deluxe, Anki, Quizlet) 4. Language script apps (e.g. Skritter)
@olivewash8419
@olivewash8419 2 жыл бұрын
Ty!
@Hellenicheavymetal
@Hellenicheavymetal 2 жыл бұрын
Youre awesome
@mtnmikemusic
@mtnmikemusic 2 жыл бұрын
CLisaa beat you to it by two months. ;-)
@jasoncollins865
@jasoncollins865 2 жыл бұрын
HelloTalk used to be good until they became extremist in their censorship
@amanuelzeryihun5082
@amanuelzeryihun5082 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to do 1 & 3 effectively check out "Omelette News & Language Learning" Chrome extension. Phenomenal tool. My French is skyrocketing. I can read nearly fluently now.
@peternolan4107
@peternolan4107 3 жыл бұрын
It would really help if you have the names of these apps appear on screen, rather than just saying the names quickly. Thanks.
@Humanoidfrenzzy
@Humanoidfrenzzy 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, or at the very least list them off in the description so we can get an overview of the recommended apps and search them up easier, the video was quite rambly..
@jrkjalique
@jrkjalique 3 жыл бұрын
Agree...
@williambarnes3021
@williambarnes3021 3 жыл бұрын
Its a tactic to make you watch the entire video vs skipping to the end or scrubbing the video looking for the titles
@Humanoidfrenzzy
@Humanoidfrenzzy 3 жыл бұрын
@@williambarnes3021 If you upload a video about learning languages that will reach a diverse audience with various levels of English comprehension, communicating information in an inclusive and effective manner should be the main focus. Not someone's vanity about view time.
@williambarnes3021
@williambarnes3021 3 жыл бұрын
@@Humanoidfrenzzy vanity has nothing to do with it. Many who upload [free] videos to this public platform do it as a source of income. If a video gets more Watch Time, then it is more likely to rank higher in search and discovery. I would venture to guess this video was recommended to you by KZbin? I have a solid guess why.
@henriquelaydner4080
@henriquelaydner4080 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely it’s an extreme statement. I’ve been studying Italian on Duolingo and it’s been proving itself quite helpful. Maybe being a native Portuguese speaker that has a considerably solid knowledge of Spanish and French have helped me, since all these languages share a lot in common, but still the app is far away from being useless.
@skydragon5555
@skydragon5555 2 жыл бұрын
Duolingo is a game, not a language learning app
@JonnySelProductions
@JonnySelProductions 2 жыл бұрын
@@skydragon5555 And that's exactly what I like about it. Learning languages has been much easier for me when gamified. I especially really appreciate how Duolingo started including stories (granted in certain langauges) which really helped learn some extra words and seeing how the languages are used in story form.
@niccolopaganini1782
@niccolopaganini1782 2 жыл бұрын
@@skydragon5555 it works if used properly
@justanotherguy4283
@justanotherguy4283 2 жыл бұрын
@@skydragon5555 it’s a language learning app. paired with other input based methods it’s extremely productive. Helped me a ton before going to Central America. Im almost half way through the Spanish tree.
@skydragon5555
@skydragon5555 2 жыл бұрын
@@justanotherguy4283 y cómo de bien hablas realmente español, ya por curiosidad.
@alethearia
@alethearia 3 жыл бұрын
So, about 1.5 years ago I started playing a hidden objects game and, on a whim, decided to change the language to German. I was learning it. I figured what the heck, might as well. So far it's functioned as both a content (cuz there's a pretty in depth story) and a flash card app. So, think outside the box with these! Pick apps you'll engage in.
@abigaillemonade1497
@abigaillemonade1497 2 жыл бұрын
What game is it?
@smorrow
@smorrow 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, what game?
@PierreMiniggio
@PierreMiniggio 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know what's the name of that game
@sherrymerrill6317
@sherrymerrill6317 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a brilliant idea!
@fravs22
@fravs22 2 жыл бұрын
June's Journey?
@Impatient_Ape
@Impatient_Ape 3 жыл бұрын
Never underestimate the value of writing stuff down that you will never read again. I always remember stuff better if I take notes by hand. I forget it really easily if it's just temporary on a screen.
@DavidB.Rockin
@DavidB.Rockin 10 ай бұрын
True It definitely helps
@RodericSpode
@RodericSpode 3 жыл бұрын
A good one for content is good old Wikipedia. It is available in a bunch of different languages, and the articles reflect the culture of the language that the content is written in.
@sonjah.6209
@sonjah.6209 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to add something: If you want to benefit from spaced repetition, you don't necessarily need an app. Personally I prefer paper flashcards, and I use a little cardboard box called a "Leitner Box", which in Germany is sold under the name "Lernbox". It helps to revise vocabulary (or other bits of information) at growing intervals through little compartments that get bigger. It's easier to use then to explain it, and I recommend it for all those who are fans of paper and pen.
@mattreichmann8118
@mattreichmann8118 3 жыл бұрын
Anki is basically the app equivalent of a Leitner Box, it just does all of the repetition part through a carefully built algorithm rather than an arbitrary number of days/weeks
@tobisbeste
@tobisbeste 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. I 'am much more efficient if I create handwritten flashcards.
@joebutler9850
@joebutler9850 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'll get one of those to understand how it works. I was talking to some Germans about Anki about 2 years ago, and they said "Oh yeah, like a Leitner box. We all learned that when we were kids." And I was like "F*ck, you learned that as a kid! That would have been some damn useful information when I was a kid. This idea has been around 100+ years, why haven't we been using it? Anyway, I'm happy to have learned about it now. But it's an interesting cultural contrast. Germans found more efficient ways to learn. And Americans (my perception as an 80's kid) emphasizes brute force learning and sometimes mindless hard work.
@angelamorales7757
@angelamorales7757 3 жыл бұрын
@@mattreichmann8118 I’m sure they know, but some people just enjoy the process of making the flash cards since writing the information down can help with retention
@xazimir4266
@xazimir4266 3 жыл бұрын
Same here....fan of paper and pen..for me it’s the best...
@yourfirstsecondlanguage4782
@yourfirstsecondlanguage4782 3 жыл бұрын
I thought you were literally going to name 4 actual apps and recommend culling the rest! Great insight though as always I wish I’d known it years ago
@storylearning
@storylearning 3 жыл бұрын
Next time!
@yourfirstsecondlanguage4782
@yourfirstsecondlanguage4782 3 жыл бұрын
@@storylearning to be fair I'm struggling to think of more than 4 bespoke language apps which are really worthwhile!
@lewessays
@lewessays 3 жыл бұрын
@@yourfirstsecondlanguage4782 How about Speachling and clozemaster...??
@yourfirstsecondlanguage4782
@yourfirstsecondlanguage4782 3 жыл бұрын
Leul Mamo I’ll be honest I haven’t used either, would you recommend?
@jonathansgarden9128
@jonathansgarden9128 2 жыл бұрын
Duolingo made me a B2 in Spanish and now also in French. Everything else you mention in this video will help me get further
@jonathansgarden9128
@jonathansgarden9128 2 жыл бұрын
@@Crashawsome It did according to the test i paid to get, and the ability to talk to people in detail in Spanish about various things sure seems like evidence too
@jonathansgarden9128
@jonathansgarden9128 2 жыл бұрын
@@Crashawsome I have a very poor working memory due to brain damage, and i'm also incredibly unorganized, but that rings a bell. I don't have the ability to prove it so, just you know, keep believing i didn't do it i don't really care. I know that i'm not the only one. Duolingo gets people to a rather high level, but even moreso with immersion obviously
@jonathansgarden9128
@jonathansgarden9128 2 жыл бұрын
@@Crashawsome One or two sentences? The questionnaire had upwards of 150 different scenarios. I definitely got a lot wrong, but enough for it to say B2. I'll have to find the link for you stand by
@CareraDrift
@CareraDrift 2 жыл бұрын
@@Crashawsome why are you so pressed ? why you need to be so negative
@CareraDrift
@CareraDrift 2 жыл бұрын
@@Crashawsome it seems like you are very frustrated with your own life and have to make other feel bad to make yourself feel better. And those B2 b! ratings dont say much tbh thtas just another business to make money
@jtparryheb
@jtparryheb Жыл бұрын
I have a PhD in second language acquisition, and telling people to only focus on certain techniques and ignore others is irresponsible. The best advice is to have people find what works for them and that they enjoy to the point of sticking with it. I personally find what makes me love each language and culture, and then I really want to pick up that language. It's also a good idea to be well-rounded in what tools you use, and keep in mind that everyone's goals and motivators are different (wanting to read classic texts, live in a country, pick up a language for work, etc.)
@macvena
@macvena Жыл бұрын
Blah, blah, blah. The king does not approve. Jeez!
@rickynoodles2816
@rickynoodles2816 Жыл бұрын
​@@macvena bruh?
@autonomousindividual7780
@autonomousindividual7780 Жыл бұрын
What's a PhD??
@ecoconatus8089
@ecoconatus8089 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!❤
@mariacarmelaminney6641
@mariacarmelaminney6641 Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right! I am a language teacher and the most important thing to learn anything is motivation, which is not the same for everybody.
@baronperez8200
@baronperez8200 3 жыл бұрын
My favorites in each category: 1.Content - Beelinguapp 2.Language transfer - italki 3.Flash card - Lingvist, Clozemaster 4.Script - Each language that uses a script has its own best apps. Currently I’m learning Japanese, Best script apps for Japanese: Kana,Benkyō
@amanuelzeryihun5082
@amanuelzeryihun5082 2 жыл бұрын
For 1. & 3. I use "Omelette News & Language Learning" Google Chrome extension. My French has skyrocketed and I can read almost fluently now.
@malcido
@malcido 3 жыл бұрын
I am learning French and I feel like the stories section in duolingo is helpful. Am I fooling myself? I also like the Duolingo podcast for french, but I wish it were just in french with the transcript. I still feel like I'm getting good input and cultural content there. Thanks for the great video.
@peterk.6093
@peterk.6093 3 жыл бұрын
Try RFI. Lots of spoken French content with transcriptions. I used to love their Journal en francais facile, just listening to it a lot in order to get used to decrypting the sounds. Today I love France Culture.
@DengueBurger
@DengueBurger 3 жыл бұрын
DL can be useful for latin languages, but Anki is more efficient
@steveharris1740
@steveharris1740 3 жыл бұрын
@@annamariereverie2920 I have found Memrise to be really helpful in learning how natives actually speak in real life.
@Αλέξανδρος56
@Αλέξανδρος56 3 жыл бұрын
Si c'est efficace, peut-être comprendrez vous cette phrase ;)
@jamiejones8508
@jamiejones8508 3 жыл бұрын
@@cisium1184 that’s such a good point!
@AlessandroBottoni
@AlessandroBottoni 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I do have a fifth type of apps to signal: voice input apps like Google Voice Assistant or Amazon Alexa. I use them to put my pronunciation on a test: if Google Voice Assistant can understand my German, most likely a *living* German native speaker will do, as well. Anyway, this is one of the best and most useful videos regarding this topic that I have ever seen. Kudos!
@jevinliu4658
@jevinliu4658 3 жыл бұрын
The converse is not true though; a native speaker understanding will not necessarily mean that the app would understand, as they also track accent. Even native speakers of a language like English, which has a large variety of accents, could fail this test.
@MrAdryan1603
@MrAdryan1603 3 жыл бұрын
@@jevinliu4658 That's the problem I was going to mention. Cheers!
@compphysgeek
@compphysgeek 2 жыл бұрын
I as a native German speaker will probably be able to understand you well way sooner than the app will
@yurikimura4994
@yurikimura4994 2 жыл бұрын
As an Uruguayan and Spanish native speaker, Google/Siri/Alexa do not play well with Rioplatense (I know Argentinean and Uruguayan accents are not the same but for the sake of simplicity) accent. I need to "tone it down" a lot for it to work :(
@joaopcasarotto
@joaopcasarotto 3 жыл бұрын
Whatever you find useful to you to learn a language is valid... there is no thing as "throw this away", people learn in different ways...
@douglasallan1591
@douglasallan1591 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I agree 100%. 👍
@thefluffyaj4119
@thefluffyaj4119 2 жыл бұрын
yea, I use duolingo and have found it great for understanding the basics if I just started reading a dutch book and saw "nu eten ik een maaltijd" I would be very confused, because word for word thats "now eat I a meal". but duolingo explained to me that the verb always goes in the second position in a statement now I don't think anyone's gonna get fluent with duolingo, but it's a very good starting point. it helps you learn the very basics of a language, explaining the rules and giving you some vocabulary. and it's also designed very well, with a very game like setup that makes it fun to learn, introducing you to a language in a fun and engaging way before you more on to stuff like reading newspapers
@littlepeverell
@littlepeverell 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for saying this. For me, it is a big help to have structured French lessons with Babbel. Of course you shouldn't only use that, but it helps me. Once I have some more basic understanding of French, I can start watching French videos, write something myself in French, whatever - but if you have no idea how this language works, you are pretty lost with just the apps named in the video.The apps named in the video are good recommendations for apps that help, but there's nothing wrong with getting help from another app that suits your way to learn.
@smoothieblack
@smoothieblack 3 жыл бұрын
I still like to write the things I'm learning, even if I don't go back to study them again, writing and organizing the new knowledge helps me retain it
@MysticHeather
@MysticHeather 3 жыл бұрын
The act of writing it alone helps to cement it in your brain so you’re def still learning from writing it 👍🏻👍🏻
@Armistice023
@Armistice023 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been learning Spanish recently (2wks). For the past week, I’ve been writing down stuff and have 8 pages, front and back, with numbers 1-100, months and days, and a number of conjugated verbs I want to do at least one side of paper a day of those basics along with DuoLingo (which I do the normal learning as well as the short reading conversations and the audio lessons) Once I get more vocab, I can do more reading :)
@kugmath520
@kugmath520 2 жыл бұрын
Organizing the new knowledge -- amazingly powerful. I only learned this very recently from Justin Sung.
@cisium1184
@cisium1184 3 жыл бұрын
This is going to sound incredibly old-fashioned, but I still do Pimsleur tapes every morning to keep sharp on the basic grammatical "guts" of a language. It's been 11 or 12 years now, though I've since upgraded to CDs, then converted those to MP4s. I read and use apps to learn new vocab and less frequent grammar, but Pimsleur for me is like a basketball player practicing short jumpers or a pianist practicing scales. You're never going to forget that material entirely, but you can get very sloppy or less fluent if you don't drill in the basics regularly - at least, I can. It's especially helpful as I learn more languages, because one language never goes completely "cold" while I'm learning another.
@mkuti-childress3625
@mkuti-childress3625 3 жыл бұрын
Pimsleur was actually the only program that ever actually worked for me!
@Wonderkid44
@Wonderkid44 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, pimsleur brigade here!
@NicolayGiraldo
@NicolayGiraldo 2 жыл бұрын
Pimsleur are not old-fashioned, they are the best resource to learn how to speak a language with a good, if not great accent, IMO. The problem is, they refuse to add Bulgarian, I asked them.
@ciaradoyle5431
@ciaradoyle5431 2 жыл бұрын
Pimsleur was definitely a game changer for me. After years in school failing to learn another language I knew that the only way I was going to have a hope was from being forced to speak it from the offset, rather than just reading and memorizing.
@Zzyzzyx
@Zzyzzyx 2 жыл бұрын
I love Pimsleur. After only four weeks of studying Spanish 30 minutes a day, I could have real conversations with people, and I got compliments on my accent.
@keagaming9837
@keagaming9837 2 жыл бұрын
Duolingo is a great app for starting to learn a language. When I started using Duolingo I was failing Spanish, now I have a B in it. There is a point where Duolingo becomes less useful once you get the conjugations and the word order down, but still it is very useful! When learning words and their conjugations, Quizlet is good for that. I found google translate to be useful for certain phrases and to test if what I wrote in Spanish translated correctly into English. Spanish AR lists and SpanishDict great for more compel conjugations and understanding the irregular verbs.
@storzbickel4328
@storzbickel4328 3 жыл бұрын
problem with language exchange is that its part of your language study time, and when your spending an hour of that speaking your native language so someone else can learn their target language. that's an hour out of your language learning time that you didn't learn any of your target language. if you can afford to pay italki teacher, this is much better route than language exchange. it only makes sense if you're completely broke and can't afford italkie tutor or if you just view that hour you're speaking to that person in your native language as socializing time.
@norabalogh5910
@norabalogh5910 3 жыл бұрын
Seconded! And you also have to add the time to message various people and try to get together with them...Usually they don't answer and if they do, it's usually limited to one meeting...if they even turn up at the arranged time! In my experience, it's exceeding rare that it actually works out that the relationship becomes an on-going one!!!!
@storzbickel4328
@storzbickel4328 3 жыл бұрын
@@norabalogh5910 damn man, it's been a couple years since I tried language exchange and this was exactly my experience. Totally forgot about that aspect of it. I only ended up having some exchanges with one person, and they contacted me. Couldn't get anyone else to respond or follow up. Not a worthy endeavor in my experience.
@PierreMiniggio
@PierreMiniggio 2 жыл бұрын
i think language exchange apps are good when you're at a point where you can both chat/talk in your own native language and the other will understand most of it, so when the person on the other side says a word you don't know, you're at a point where you're already able to hear it, figure out how it's probably spelled, and look up the word yourself. So bascially you use the other person as content, and so the other person does towards you. Before you get to that point, you're prob more efficient grinding vocabulary and exposing yourself to content adapted to your level.
@hanstone2662
@hanstone2662 2 жыл бұрын
Besides maybe the flash cards though, none of these are an actually good starting point. Like if I just start listening to Spanish podcasts, my brain is just going to wander elsewhere because I don’t understand anything they are saying. I need a base knowledge of some words and grammar to benefit from immersion. Playing a game app that will teach me basic stuff, while also trying to push my immersion with stuff like Dreaming Spanish and then eventually listening to podcasts and reading articles makes more sense to me. It’s like giving a child “war and peace” instead of “run dog run”
@isabelberg3171
@isabelberg3171 3 жыл бұрын
My father and I are both learning Norweigan. I started learning it first, yet now he's better at it than me. He helps me with learning new things, and I help him with revewing matirial that he already learned.
@snicksim
@snicksim 3 жыл бұрын
That's gotta sting a little hehe. Any idea what you did different?
@ClassicHawk115
@ClassicHawk115 3 жыл бұрын
Lykke til!
@isabelberg3171
@isabelberg3171 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. He just has a better memory.
@isabelberg3171
@isabelberg3171 3 жыл бұрын
Tusen takk!
@Humanoidfrenzzy
@Humanoidfrenzzy 3 жыл бұрын
Lykke til, ikke gi deg, stå på! 🤗👍🇧🇻
@Sakura-zu4rz
@Sakura-zu4rz 3 жыл бұрын
I have a frustrating experience. Not knowing where to begin or hitting a plateau can feel demoralizing and make it hard to hit the books and study like you know you should…Having friends from other cultures makes me more creative. In fresh ways about space and how people create their own world and environment. It is best way to connect between creative thinking and cross-cultural relationships
@debs-101
@debs-101 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard stats that people learn language faster if they begin dating someone w/ a first-language different from their own. I considered using dating apps just so i can learn languages
@Sakura-zu4rz
@Sakura-zu4rz 3 жыл бұрын
@@debs-101 ❤️
@lasagnacreamcone
@lasagnacreamcone 2 жыл бұрын
I would say Duolingo can be quite useful, depends on what language you're studying and how you're using it. It's great if it's paired with actual real lessons. Some of the least popular languages don't have a voice generator, so you actually hear native speakers say the sentences. And for the most popular languages, the community can be of massive help. I'm studying japanese right now at university, and I would not recommand Duolingo only, but the comments under the exercices have helped me a lot. As someone with crippling adhd, I think people are shitting way too much on Duolingo. Like, Anki is great, but it's also boring and you need to manage your platform by yourself, which can be very overwhelming. Not everybody has the capacity to put that much concentration into learning a language. Duolingo gives a lot of content for free and they have really cool languages, like French creole.
@benja_mint
@benja_mint 2 жыл бұрын
ive thought about this quite a few times, i reckon duolingo is only overhyped in how it sells itself as a full language learning platform ( in that respect it delivers disapointing results) but if you consider it in the category of gamified flashcards with extra features and... suddenly its pretty awesome and over-delivers ;) i.e. just have the right expectations and its not so bad. nobody would expect to completely learn a language from only looking at flash cards
@eonsprite6109
@eonsprite6109 2 жыл бұрын
Duo is good for vocab, or for just doing a quick lesson/refresher. But I have never met a single person who soley uses duo. I think the problem is that it doesn't bring back old vocab. After a lesson, you never hear the word again unless it's an important on like "the" or something.
@GorgieClarissa
@GorgieClarissa Жыл бұрын
@@benja_mint I think it goes without saying that no one expects to learn a language only using one resource. That might be the mindset of a complete beginner, but even once they get going, the excitement to watch movies or even speak or read books takes over. I know, I've been using duolingo for years - primarily as a ''fun'' flashcard app. It's really just a vocab factory mill without boring flashcards. But I watch movies, tv, italki, read books - even olly's books. Language would be extremely boring with just one resource. I don't know why people jump on those that use duolingo as it being ''their only resource''
@RareInTheHistory
@RareInTheHistory Жыл бұрын
I agree. I'm learning Gaeilge (Irish), and few apps offer it. Until recently, all the audio were native speakers mostly using Connacht dialect, but they're unfortunately seeming to replace them. It helps me remember to practice at least a little every day.
@riaconradt2554
@riaconradt2554 Жыл бұрын
Duolingo is good tool for introducing new vocabulary and new grammar points. When I encounter new grammar points, I check KZbin or use google to learn it. Or just wait till comes up during my formal language lessons, but at least I’ve already encountered the grammar point.
@lorenzgluck5144
@lorenzgluck5144 3 жыл бұрын
Dictionary apps are great too. Way quicker than a physical dictionaries
@storylearning
@storylearning 3 жыл бұрын
Yes true!
@seanmillanejr1796
@seanmillanejr1796 3 жыл бұрын
Has anyone else used Pimselur? Although it doesn't give you a lot of vocabulary I found it super beneficial to get me really speaking German and become familiar with the sentence structure. It took 6 months to complete all the levels but the space repetition system it uses seemed to work because so far what I learned with it has stuck. I would listen and repeat back as I drove my half hour commute to work everyday and it honestly just made me more confident and eager as a learner. Well worth the 20$ a month subscription.
@AdNoctemMedia
@AdNoctemMedia 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not great in the language that I used Pimsleur for (Russian) but man did I find it incredible for getting me speaking and understanding Russian words and especially the pronunciation. It really helped me break down the nuance of how words are pronounced. Obviously the downside is it's very conversational and I had to learn the alphabet separately. For a long time there were words I could understand but not identify in written form.
@SUPER_JAVI
@SUPER_JAVI 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, its good, I'm currently learning Farsi
@Michael-iw3ek
@Michael-iw3ek 2 жыл бұрын
I found Pimsleur incredibly, unbelievably boring but whatever I learned from it stayed with me forever.
@marshamiddleton5910
@marshamiddleton5910 2 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@nathaniel-fh4wr
@nathaniel-fh4wr Жыл бұрын
I'm using pimselur for Dutch, I think it's great. It's definitely been the best course so far for me personally , while normally I'm a visual learner, speaking a language in day to day situations is for the most part not a visual thing. So with visual based learning I find myself subconsciously relying on the image, then when I'm in a real life scenario and there's no image at hand my mind goes completely blank.
@jeremyallen8942
@jeremyallen8942 2 жыл бұрын
From an avid anki user (studied chinese in china for a bit over a year), great vid! I would also add: 1. Dictionary apps. Maybe this is a bit obvious, but I'm not sure if they technically fit in any of your categories. 2. Conjugation apps, though I guess you could try somehow to fit this into script learning apps. I find these helpful because its about repeatedly recalling patterns, as opposed to just vocabulary. In Spanish it would be a bit ridiculous to have 40+ flashcards for every verb, especially since so many verbs follow regular patterns. However consistently getting those patterns down requires a lot of repetition.
@jamjunctionfm
@jamjunctionfm 3 жыл бұрын
Mango Languages I absolutely love! I highly recommend it! A year subscription is so cheap!
@AZ-ty7ub
@AZ-ty7ub 3 жыл бұрын
Also potentially free if you can get it through your library :)
@jamjunctionfm
@jamjunctionfm 3 жыл бұрын
@@AZ-ty7ub indeed that is very true definitely see if it's there in your local library first, if not get it!
@WykkydSoul
@WykkydSoul 3 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@thomascorey2676
@thomascorey2676 3 жыл бұрын
If wishes were . . . I started learning languages before personal computers certainly before KZbin and all these other apps. Happy to have them now. I do not believe writing vocabulary down is a waste though, doing so helps me greatly. I discovered in university that just by wring copious notes in all of my classes (I rarely went back through them, even for exam preparation), I did much better than when I did not write notes during lecture.
@英語わかりません
@英語わかりません 3 жыл бұрын
Wanikani and anki is a must when dealing with japanese. Couldn't imagine doing it any other way. SRS almost feels like magic.
@LadyPelikan
@LadyPelikan 3 жыл бұрын
I can't find Wanikani on the Google store. Maybe it doesn't exist for Android? Or not in the EU?
@furricoat6739
@furricoat6739 3 жыл бұрын
Wanikani is a website, not an app
@LadyPelikan
@LadyPelikan 3 жыл бұрын
@@furricoat6739 Well that does explain it! Thanks for taking the time to answer. :-)
@charityneverfaileth22
@charityneverfaileth22 2 жыл бұрын
I think starting with Language Transfer or Paul Noble or Michel Thomas helps when you are a complete beginner. I feel like it gives you a gentle start so that content becomes more comprehensible, and makes it not feel so foreign.
@schtreg9140
@schtreg9140 2 жыл бұрын
My girlfriend is Mexican-American and I'm Austrian. We're both bilingual. Her other language is Spanish, mine's German. We've been using Duolingo in order to get exposure to each other's language and it's been a very fun and relaxed experience. Granted, we have the benefit of having each other as native speakers to learn from. But I don't quite understand why so many people are against Duolingo. Especially for absolute beginners who maybe even have a bit of school related language studying trauma, it's incredibly helpful and gives you an easy way to fall into the language and pick up basic but essential vocabulary.
@StillAliveAndKicking_
@StillAliveAndKicking_ 2 жыл бұрын
Duolongo is okay as a way to repeat phrases and hear them spoken, But it teaches vocabulary slowly, and the grammar is not explained. In the French course the English is of a very poor standard, I worry about the French.
@darianrichardson3629
@darianrichardson3629 2 жыл бұрын
@@StillAliveAndKicking_ In my experience the grammar is almost always explained but that might be a new feature.
@StillAliveAndKicking_
@StillAliveAndKicking_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@darianrichardson3629 I’ve worked through the French course from level three, and I’m about to start level nine, and the iPad app rarely explains the grammar. I’ve also noticed that it is fussy about translations. So I cannot fall asleep is okay, but I cannot get to sleep is not okay. Noone says the first form. This is such a common issue. For la gérante you must write manager, not manageress! I could write pages like this. However, it has one strength, namely repetition of basic phrases. I know of no app that does that as well as Duo. I still hate it.
@Gabu_Dono
@Gabu_Dono Жыл бұрын
As a teacher and language learner I think you should work with what motivates you, even if it’s Duolingo. However, I often have students at the lower and intermediate level come to me to ask about things they don’t understand in Duolingo- usually because Duolingo is wrong. Sentences like, “I eat an apple, that really don’t make sense in English without context. There are also several ways to say something and I was always annoyed in the past when only one variation of, say, a German to English translation was considered correct. Duolingo has serious issues and needs to be overhauled, but the basic idea is good.
@Anty2004
@Anty2004 3 жыл бұрын
For Japanese script, I highly recommend Kanji Study, it's by a small developer and it gives you the alphabets and first 80 Kanji free, after that you can choose to upgrade to everything (and I mean everything) for around £20-30. This app helped me learn to write 550 kanji in around 3 months and I recommend it to support a flashcard reading app (for Japanese again, I recommend wanikani for this).
@simpsimps553
@simpsimps553 2 жыл бұрын
Hes a scammer
@weirdshrimpnumber9755
@weirdshrimpnumber9755 2 жыл бұрын
@@simpsimps553 Can you explain ?
@simpsimps553
@simpsimps553 2 жыл бұрын
@@weirdshrimpnumber9755 tons of apps that do everything said totally free. Gotta be pretty thick to pay 30 euros for 500 kanji characters in 2022
@amj.composer
@amj.composer Жыл бұрын
@@weirdshrimpnumber9755 That guy knows literally nothing. I have been using Kanji Study for close to 5 years at this point. Learnt about 1200 kanji and I still use it to this day. It's an absolutely terrific app
@Trynottoblink
@Trynottoblink Жыл бұрын
Been using WaniKani for a few months and it’s a godsend. I like that the kanji and vocabulary are all organized in a logical order that builds on what you’ve already learned, that there are mnemonics for every entry where the reading isn’t obvious, and that there are male and female audio recordings for all the vocab. Only possible thing that could make the app better I think is including the pitch accent pattern for each vocab word, but other than that is basically a perfect app.
@melbutterworth7976
@melbutterworth7976 3 жыл бұрын
the best app is the settings app, just add whatever language you're learning as a second language and it'll appear all over the place
@oakstrong1
@oakstrong1 3 жыл бұрын
My friend started learning Finnish more than 30 years ago but he wasn't motivated enough to plough through a book and the language course on CDs my dad gave him wasn't for true beginners. Since he downloaded Duo Lingo his Finnish has improved and now that he is nearing the end of the course, he can speak simple sentences. He has a basic understanding of grammar (the hardest thing of Finnish language) so he isn't stuck on only those phrases taught in the course. I started learning Chinese, Vietnamese, Thai, Khmer, Tagalog and a couple of languages close to English with apps. Although I find Vietnamese disheartening and always leave it till last because I always lose my lives, I still end up practicing it more often than Tagalog, Thai and Khmer (and Chinese) I would really benefit knowing. That's because Duo Lingo doesn't offer those apps: they don't put so much pressure and although I do like the content, they are not as gamified. One app I played a lot in the past is Keng Thai. It is an app for leaning the alphabet and associated words (that has the sound). The paid version also has some writing exercises. I believe the app was a designed for children but I got the impression that it was mostly used by immigrants and foreign workers.
@NiaJustNia
@NiaJustNia 2 жыл бұрын
Drops is really good as a flashcard app. I'm using it for Icelandic, and I've found I'm retaining more words than with Duolingo
@eddie-roo
@eddie-roo 3 жыл бұрын
Blue bird is pretty good. They have a great selection of languages and you get access to unlimited daily lessons full of different audio-flashcards, tests and pronunciation checks.
@evanserickson
@evanserickson 2 жыл бұрын
The content language app that helped me was Pimsleur. 100% audio. Brought me to mid level B1 or B2 in whichever language I choose. Then I use Tandem or Hello Talk to improve and practice. Also I use a few of your short stories to improve comprehension
@c-bass9968
@c-bass9968 3 жыл бұрын
This is great advise as a bilingual Spanish and English Speaker. Although I’m an L1 Spanish speaker I lived in the US for a long time as a kid and “forgot” some Spanish. These tips 100% are what I did to re learn and be able to come back to Puerto Rico speaking “fluent” Spanish. Only problem is I’m learning Latin now
@AlfistaWayne
@AlfistaWayne Жыл бұрын
Hi, Mr. Richards. I have eight of your books and like them very much. The longer I use them, the more I have come to appreciate them. It’s also great that you offer Audible versions to go with so many of them. Great work !
@TheTreborMedia
@TheTreborMedia 3 жыл бұрын
Thank Olly for this. I agree with your opinion almost fully. However, the best way of learning/study language I've know is " organic/natural way: reading tradidional books, writing on paper by hand nad so on. Our brain works same than 50 years ago and does't need some digital devices to learning language. Take a look at children. My 7 year old doughter is fluent with her mother toongue. She did gets it without support a new tech.
@storylearning
@storylearning 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree! If I were to expand on this video, I'd make the point that probably
@TheTreborMedia
@TheTreborMedia 3 жыл бұрын
@@storylearning Thanks for your extra explanation. But you know that most of the peoples take all app as some magic power which assists to grab more language skills immediately. I've done my challenge with memorise app; 1000 English words per month per 60 min each day. Only of a few of those remained in my head.
@jackiew6598
@jackiew6598 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love reading paper books in my target language. But for listening practice KZbin is fantastic.
@DANGJOS
@DANGJOS 3 жыл бұрын
I have no intention of deleting my other apps because I find them useful. However, I do hope to invest more time in the categories you mentioned. Thank you for the video.
@mdleweight
@mdleweight 2 жыл бұрын
50 years ago I used flash cards to learn Spanish in combination with immersion. Every new word, verb conjugation, idiom, or grammar rule went on a flash card. I carried the physical cards with me and created them on the spot. I still have that collection of flash cards and will use it prior to traveling to a Spanish speaking country or Miami.
@Itransformit
@Itransformit 2 жыл бұрын
Content apps and apps with native speakers still require that you have knowledge of the language, right? I don't see how I can learn French by reading a French newspaper if I don't know a single word of French.
@jamesgartelos5484
@jamesgartelos5484 2 жыл бұрын
Is this guy really explaining to us what the internet is?
@pwelford968
@pwelford968 2 жыл бұрын
I used Duo to learn the Arabic script and to learn a lot of Arabic words. It was a good starter. My big problem with it is what to do next and this video was a handy reminder of other resources
@nikkijubilant
@nikkijubilant Жыл бұрын
I already speak French. So for me Duolingo has a great long French course which they have regularly gutted, ripped apart and significantly improved. For us who already speak French from years ago, and I mean speak French, like B1s and B2s, but we lost it from lack of use, Duolingo really helps to regain it. For new students of French, Duolingo is great if it is used in tandem with the 4 tools this vlogger suggests. The 4 tools should be 80-90% of your learning. Duolingo was only ever to be used in conjunction with these 4 tools suggested here. Do NOT only use Duolingo, you will not advance fast in vocabulary, speaking practice, sufficient pronunciation and enough idiomatic expressions. And the reason I speak French well is I study French every single day for hours for decades, my family are French, and I am super driven, super ambitious and really insist on learning French with the goal of living in French. Just studying French from a distance, part-time when in the mood will only generate what I call elevator talking, the "bonjour, comment ça va" spiel that is a closed loop, an unnatural pronunciation, very poor amount of stilted bookish contrived laboratory French.
@joanae5857
@joanae5857 Жыл бұрын
Great video :) I am learning English, German, Swedish and Japanese.
@davidbenner2289
@davidbenner2289 3 жыл бұрын
I was born and raised abroad. We moved every few years from one culture and language family to a different culture and language family. My mother encouraged we siblings to learn all we could, languages included. I received one of the best educations in the World by this. I learn best by immersion. It's a "use it or lose it" with me.
@annarboriter
@annarboriter 3 жыл бұрын
Abroad is a such a lovely country. It's the dream of almost all of my students to visit there one day in the future
@davidbenner2289
@davidbenner2289 3 жыл бұрын
@@annarboriter it's overseas. That's all that counts.
@annarboriter
@annarboriter 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidbenner2289 Relatively we are all living overseas
@linguaphile9415
@linguaphile9415 2 жыл бұрын
@@annarboriter 😂
@libertyfirst4083
@libertyfirst4083 3 жыл бұрын
My problem with language learning has always been listening comprehension. I am fairly adept at learning grammar, but it's recognizing the spoken word that has been my downfall and discouragement.
@rachelharris708
@rachelharris708 3 жыл бұрын
Been there, done. That, especially for Frenc and even Italian. What I would do(if you can), is take lessons with a. Tutor and record them. Listen back in your free time. The more you an get used to the. Sound of one personn’s speaking patterns, the easier iit’ll become to get used to others.
@POLSKAdoBOJU
@POLSKAdoBOJU 3 жыл бұрын
You can find tons of free video from native speakers in your target language here on KZbin that allow you to practice your listening.
@storylearning
@storylearning 3 жыл бұрын
Reading and listening at the same time will fix that.
@EFoxVN
@EFoxVN 3 жыл бұрын
The LingQ app that he mentioned is great for listening and reading. One of the key features is that you can import KZbin videos with subtitles, and then you can study the sound track as well as save any new words.
@annamariereverie2920
@annamariereverie2920 3 жыл бұрын
You can listen to videos in your target language on KZbin, listen to podcasts in the language you want to learn, and watch TV in that language as well. You don't have to understand at first. Just listen for 30 minutes to an hour a day. Eventually, you'll be able to pick up the words.
@TMoonCat23
@TMoonCat23 3 жыл бұрын
Spaced repetition when using flashcards is great, but also recommended is using pictures on the cards, instead of your native language. Target language on one side, like "el gato" if you're learning Spanish, and a picture of a cat on the other. Supposed to help fast track you into thinking in the target language, rather than mentally translating from one word to another all the time. I don't know how easy some of these flashcard apps are to add photos to. Anyone else have experience using photos on the Flashcard Deluxe, Quizlet or Anki apps?
@turntablestudios
@turntablestudios 3 жыл бұрын
I used to use Anki. With a little practice, yes, you can easily add things like images and audio to the cards. I think there's even a plugin that automatically pulls images from google when you make a vocabulary card.
@ravenmusic932
@ravenmusic932 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with your statement, if you have a certain skill on the language in question. But as a beginner you definitely want to use apps like duolingo or pimsleur to build a foundation. It's kind of pointless reading a Chinese newspaper or listening to a Russian podcasts, if you have been learning the language for only 3 days.
@JohnVKaravitis
@JohnVKaravitis 3 жыл бұрын
Content apps Language Exchange apps Flashcard apps Script apps
@georgesklias8611
@georgesklias8611 3 жыл бұрын
Σ' ευχαριστούμε.
@arcticfoxvikingseaking2206
@arcticfoxvikingseaking2206 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree. Reviewing vocabulary is important. My most effective language learning was a college course and they would repeat thing over and over and it stuck. Also it is scientifically proven that writing does help you to remember information.
@kinjoko
@kinjoko 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but different people learn with different ways. Some prefer audio, others reading and others writing. As for myself, I prefer reading/writing.
@whybother987
@whybother987 2 жыл бұрын
Reviewing vocabulary is important and most people don't know why. It's the way human memory works - the information is getting "stuck in the head" so to speak, by recalling it and not so much by taking in. You would remember a word which you tried to recall and managed it much better than a word which you have seen or heard a dozen times.
@pseudotonal
@pseudotonal 3 жыл бұрын
That's fine for major languages. I have to learn Waray Waray -- the 5th most spoken language in the Philippines. 4.2 million people speak it natively. There are no learning materials. It is not taught in schools. There is no literature or dictionaries. There are a few dialects. It is spoken and written inconsistently, with a lot of abbreviations and shortcuts.
@nottechytutorials
@nottechytutorials 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking with native speakers in a shared interest is very educational. Like a lot of online gamers speak spanish, so one time in Among Us I got placed in a spanish server and I got to learn quite a bit of that language. It was fun bc I got to learn the colour names, and simple phrases everyone often repeated (like "no mi" to defend your innocence). The atmosphere also felt different, I saw more emoticons and laughs from everyone than I would see in an english server, so that was interesting.
@DanielAlvarez-mz7yc
@DanielAlvarez-mz7yc 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! Do you want to exchange languages? I speak Spanish and I would like to learn English
@nottechytutorials
@nottechytutorials 2 жыл бұрын
@@DanielAlvarez-mz7yc Sure my man. What kind of Spanish do you speak? I speak Canadian myself 🇨🇦
@sabrinastratton1991
@sabrinastratton1991 11 ай бұрын
Duolingo is pretty nice cause 1. Its free 2. The games make it engaging 3. Its great for beginners but not for more advanced learners. Im so far into Duo with French and Spanish I can read both ok at this point. The repetition is also nice.
@ChristiaanCorthier
@ChristiaanCorthier 3 жыл бұрын
Busuu, Lingvist, spanish tv, and reading
@joebutler9850
@joebutler9850 3 жыл бұрын
Great way to look at it! Personally I would add dictionary apps. I have a chinese dictionary (Pleko) and a Thai dictionary, and they help me sometimes with better definitions. And I used them in some places with bad internet and had no other options. So I wouldn't delete those. And what about grammar? I used SpanishDict to help learn the verb conjugations in Spanish, and I think that made learning Spanish a lot easier for me. But of course now I'm bringing it up to 6 categories, which is starting to get overwhelming. Maybe the 4th category could be "special feature" apps - that basically help with any special features of your target language that don't exist in your 1st language. It could be script or character apps like Olly mentions. But it also could be apps that teach different grammatical features, like the verb conjugations in Spanish. Or it could be new sounds and tones you need to learn for your new language. When I was learning Mandarin, I found an app by an American who learned Mandarin very well. And he made an app taught me how to pronounce sounds in Mandarin that we don't have in English. As a bonus, it helped me practice the tones as well. And I think that helped improve my spoken Mandarin immensely. And I copied that method when I started learning Thai, which also helped quite a bit. In any case, this video made me think about language apps in a new way. Nice work.
@itsnatemate7697
@itsnatemate7697 3 жыл бұрын
What was that app that you used for Mandarin that you mentioned that was from an American
@joebutler9850
@joebutler9850 3 жыл бұрын
@@itsnatemate7697 I had it on my old android phone, and now I have an iphone. I've searched the app store, but unfortunately I can't find it. Sorry. But I bet there are some other apps and KZbin videos out there to help learn the new sounds.
@juanoquendo
@juanoquendo 3 жыл бұрын
I started learning French with the original Michel Thomas tapes. Outstanding instruction, incredible absorption.
@missmayflower
@missmayflower 3 жыл бұрын
He’s the best!
@felicity7841
@felicity7841 2 жыл бұрын
Language exchange apps could be really amazing, the only downside about that is that they usually don’t want to practice your target language with you, people are usually only interested in practicing English. I really don’t mind doing that, but then when they don’t practice your target language at all with you it can be very frustrating especially if you really want to be immersed in the language.
@livedandletdie
@livedandletdie 3 жыл бұрын
KZbin is a good app for language learning. Depending on how you use it. MMOs and interactive games are also really good. I can't speak portuguese And I can't really understand any single word, however I met a lot of portuguese brazil speakers in Runescape, when that was still popular. The same goes for dutch... I can read it and understand it, however I can't speak either. If I had actually tried to learn then I would have had the perfect environment for communication back in 2007. However languages were uninteresting for me back then. I only cared about finishing school.
@linguaphile9415
@linguaphile9415 2 жыл бұрын
I like reading on my kindle. It has the advantage that I only need to hover my finger over an unknown word and, if it's a fairly common language, it opens a dictionary entry, normally even leads you to its dictionary form (but this can have its weaknesses). Furthermore all the words I look up when reading are saved in the vocabulary builder. There I get a list in the order in which I looked them up. It also has the option of turning the items on the list into flashcards with the word (as found in reading) on the one side and the dictionary entry on the other. You can also have the device show you the sentence in which it occurred (I wouldn't say, however, that this is superior to flashcard apps). But there is another thing that I maybe like even more. When I find an unknown word and I wonder how it is different in meaning or construction from others I encountered (sometimes the devil is in the details), instead of googling my way to an explanation I like to make it a little more engaging, like a riddle. I can let my kindle show me all occurrences if the word in the book or my whole library. By comparison of the constructions and the contexts I can usually determine their difference.
@RachelB.BookReferences
@RachelB.BookReferences 2 жыл бұрын
I'm getting a kindle soon, and I'm excited to try out these ideas! 🙂
@californianorma876
@californianorma876 Жыл бұрын
100% agree with the shout out to Flashcards Deluxe. I am learning my native language. There is no documentation, nothing to study at all. We're making it up as we go along. I found that app and it's very much helping me.
@juanoquendo
@juanoquendo 3 жыл бұрын
I've noticed that no one has mentioned Rosetta Stone. It's immersive, flash card based, checks your pronunciation, uses spaced repetition and promotes conversational proficiency. It was the only program that I used to learn both French and Portuguese.
@AA-vr8ve
@AA-vr8ve 3 жыл бұрын
I'd only ever heard of rosetta stone up until 2016ish! It's really weird to me, no one talks about it anymore
@terriv9002
@terriv9002 3 жыл бұрын
Too expensive.
@juanoquendo
@juanoquendo 3 жыл бұрын
@@terriv9002 $150 for a whole year. I think that's reasonable given the quality of the app.
@catrinick
@catrinick 3 жыл бұрын
If you’re looking for some language exchange partner for portuguese i’m here ^-^
@TheIronyste
@TheIronyste 3 жыл бұрын
Tout ce que tu dis me semble très pertinent. Merci pour cette vidéo
@Dr.Mironova
@Dr.Mironova Жыл бұрын
Duolingo(using voice input)+podasts/series in Spanish work just fine for me. B1 in a year. A few days ago I added Tandem.
@frankathl1
@frankathl1 Жыл бұрын
Title of video is clickbait as it leaves out “Types of”.
@parkercushingable
@parkercushingable 2 жыл бұрын
I really like your first point about the language wardrobe on the internet. These machines contain the entirety of humanities knowledge in our palm and we prefer to scroll tiktoks.
@willmcmill4
@willmcmill4 2 жыл бұрын
Memrise is a great one! Mix between lessons and flash cards, it’s a GREAT app (it has spaced repetition too). Duolingo, I think, will help with exposure to new vocabulary. I wouldn’t rely on it, though.
@jolonghthong
@jolonghthong Жыл бұрын
I have both. Memrise for vocabulary discovery and spaced repition, duo lingo for starting a language and really as a game to keep my mind sharp when chilling or at school
@norabalogh5910
@norabalogh5910 3 жыл бұрын
You do not need automated spaced repetition to use flashcards!!! Yes, vocabulary memorization is very useful, and yes, you definitely want to practice the words you don't know well often, and shuffle the ones you know well off to the side so they don't keep on coming up.... But in fact this can be much better done manually. I use a spreadsheet to gather new words to be studied, situating them in sentences, ideally in the context in which I originally found them if it's a good example. I also make sure that my examples"work" for both passive and active practise (i.e. for practising understanding of the new vocabulary element and for trying to come up with it yourself). The reason I use a spreadsheet at this initial stage is because spreadsheets are easily searchable in case I'm trying to ask myself in the future what exactly was that word "x" that I learned a while ago. And they are also very handy to edit. I then load the first worksheet of the spreadsheet into a set in a very simple flashcard application called Flashcard Machine. (I use electronic flashcards because I find that my card set is extremely dynamic and also, I correct the cards often, so paper flashcards would be a pain). I try to generally 30-60 new vocabulary elements at a time. As I test myself on the words, I shuffle flashcards I did not instantly get 100% right to the end of my deck so that they come up again...and I can repeat this as often as is necessary, so that certain flashcards might come up again and again and again! Some words are easily learned and others just simply don't stick and need lots of practising....and I like being in charge of exactly how much! If on the other hand I know the word extremely well, I flag it, and at the end of the session, I move all flagged cards into another "known" set...which I can try again in a few weeks to see if it's still known. If it's now extremely well known and obvious, it can get deleted. Otherwise, it might get moved back to the "actively being practised" set. I will go back to my "actively being practised" set every few days to run through it....or I might deliberately leave it for a week while I'm doing other things and then check out my knowledge of the vocab. I don't like automated spaced repetition because I know how much space I want to give to vocabulary drilling versus other language learning activities. I don't want software to tell me "it's time to pratise these words now!" I want to practice as often as I want to practice and for as long as I want to practice. My two cents worth anyway!
@norabalogh5910
@norabalogh5910 3 жыл бұрын
P.S. The other advantage of working with electronic flashcards as opposed to on paper is that I need online access to check out pronunciation. I always have a dictionary with sound as well as goggle translate, open at the same time, and I listen if there's the slightest doubt or I just need to hear it again.
@krisballard541
@krisballard541 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your advice.
@jennifer255
@jennifer255 Жыл бұрын
I can relate to how learning a language was like 25-30 years ago. The only foreign language media was a German TV program on PBS (local TV station) from a station based in Boston, and that was maybe 1 hour a week, and maybe 1 Spanish channel (Spanish Soap Operas where they spoke super fast!). When I took French (2 1/2 years) and Spanish (1/2 year), we just had cassette tapes in class (if we were lucky - my language classes in middle school didn't have any media), nor did the teachers even speak in the language, save for giving commands in that language. When I took Japanese in college (1999/2000), the world of the Internet started opening things up, and I had tons of material to immerse myself in, but no apps, or KZbin yet. Now, the amount of material and choices out there feels overwhelming! Granted, I'm still partial to good old fashioned hand-written flash cards, though (English word/example sentence(s) on one side, Target language and sentences on the other side - maybe a picture). I feel like the physical writing of the word, plus a sentence or two helps me to retain it better rather than just clicking an area on the screen.
@Daniel-ou4fb
@Daniel-ou4fb 2 жыл бұрын
Just like any exercise, the best course is the one you'll actually do.
@CoffeeScribe
@CoffeeScribe 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I LOVED the example you used with the wardrobe and ending up in the country that you want to learn the language from. THAT WAS BRILLIANT!!!!! Amazing!
@muttlanguages3912
@muttlanguages3912 3 жыл бұрын
You had better luck with language exchange apps. I had people searching for a sugar daddy.
@storylearning
@storylearning 3 жыл бұрын
You certainly have to filter with those apps!!
@DANGJOS
@DANGJOS 3 жыл бұрын
LOL!!
@Babylon2060
@Babylon2060 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit 😳 🤣
@itsnatemate7697
@itsnatemate7697 3 жыл бұрын
BAHAHAHA 🤣🤣
@ジョジョさま
@ジョジョさま 3 жыл бұрын
Language Transfer works. It taught me alot of insightful things about Spanish that nothing else has pointed out. It also taught sentence structure and conjugation pretty easily.
@rosetyler628
@rosetyler628 2 жыл бұрын
which app do you use
@hunatae
@hunatae 3 жыл бұрын
which flashcard app would be the best considering it would have to be a free version?
@manlybaker3098
@manlybaker3098 Жыл бұрын
I prefer hand-written flash cards. The action of writing the cards forces my mind to focus on what I am doing. As I review, I can quickly and easily sort the cards into those the I know and those that need more work ... no big fingers hitting the wrong button.
@jakiru8783
@jakiru8783 2 жыл бұрын
A newer app I've been intrigued by is NativShark (for Japanese) which I think would fit into the Flashcard category. It has spaced repetition built into it and you can even build and organize your own decks apart from the ones they create based on the 'units' (lessons) you go through. They try to teach relevant practical speech that builds upon itself and a lot of it even has actual male/female voice-work! Really seems to help streamline part of the learning process but I'll have to fully try it for myself!
@FFVison
@FFVison Жыл бұрын
My girlfriend learned French by using chat rooms in AOL. This was in the late 90s to early 2000s if I remember correctly. She did tell me though that she had difficulty interpreting French in speech though, so whatever you choose, make sure you learn all communication skills for that language.
@fabianogama39
@fabianogama39 2 жыл бұрын
I use Lingq a lot. Besides of being a content app it's also a flashcard app, because as you save words to review later the app automatically creates flashcards for you, so you can jump right into the review after you read the text.
@luthier78
@luthier78 2 жыл бұрын
I just found this channel, very interesting. I speak 7 languages fluently I would like to share one thing/trick I used in learning that I found very useful. After 1st year / first language - polish - on year 2 I used to learn two new languages, french and chinese, using 1st year language polish. and so on from year 3
@luthier78
@luthier78 2 жыл бұрын
@@Crashawsome I read chinese grammar books written in polish and my chinese teacher is a chinese woman who teach me her mother language in polish.
@ScottJB
@ScottJB 3 жыл бұрын
Learning the script (or rules for writing) applies to languages that use the Roman alphabet too. I used Pimselur for Danish and their thing is that seeing words written will allegedly make you pronounce it like you would in your native language, so they discourage it. I found that when I can learn the pronunciation and then see the word written it helps me remember better and actually see cognates with English I otherwise would miss because of pronunciation differences.
@SkpalTube
@SkpalTube 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Pimsleur is good. I have started learning Japanese.
@ScottJB
@ScottJB 2 жыл бұрын
@@SkpalTube I was kind of saying it's not my favorite
@SkpalTube
@SkpalTube 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScottJB Ok, but on the contrary I found that they focus first on making you learn the pronounciation (like a native Japanese would pronounce), and then give the actual words in Kanji, Hiragana or Katakana. The approach might be different for Japanese.
@NicolayGiraldo
@NicolayGiraldo 2 жыл бұрын
The opposite happens to me, I recognize a few cognates because of their sounds, as the written form gives fewer clues to me. Different languages, of course.
@d.-beck7205
@d.-beck7205 Жыл бұрын
How did you learn it instead? I have the same difficulties as you with the written Danish words. They do not make sense to me, compared with the pronunciation. I am at a point where I decided to pause learning because it was not fun anymore, but I would like to pick up again after the summer.
@MrEaster77
@MrEaster77 Жыл бұрын
Thi has helped me loads Thankyou 😊
@SoulTrainBro
@SoulTrainBro Жыл бұрын
Olly. do your courses use these 4 learning fundamentals? I'm interested in Spanish.
@uncocoloco6862
@uncocoloco6862 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, well, language exchange apps maybe work well if your native language is English or any other popular language. But my native language is Czech, not a popular one. And I'm learning Hebrew, which is not a very popular language either. I couldn't find any native Hebrew speakers learning Czech in the language exchange apps I tried.
@alwayslearning7672
@alwayslearning7672 3 жыл бұрын
I really wish you would put your short stories books with audio included rather than having to buy the two separately.I bought your short stories books then realised I had to buy the audio separately and it's really annoying.
@Kevflar
@Kevflar 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. Could you do a video on what is the best way to use a flashcard app? A word can mean so many things. So it's probably best to learn sentences. But there are probably more good tips!
@Kevflar
@Kevflar 3 жыл бұрын
Also: I can't help to think that all the time spend on creating decks is better used just getting more input in. Thoughts?
@storylearning
@storylearning 2 жыл бұрын
I agree completely!
@rainynight02
@rainynight02 2 жыл бұрын
For Japanese the app Human Japanese is wonderful! Only reason I never stuck with learning Japanese is because I didn't have anyone around to talk to in it. I'm looking into learning Spanish precisely because there are a lot of Spanish speakers in the area.
@Bagofnowt
@Bagofnowt 2 жыл бұрын
When you're just starting out in a language, do content apps help? I'm just starting learning Norwegian but if all I know is how to say 'I am a woman' 'the child drinks water', I don't know if a Norwegian newspaper will be accessible to be
@martawatermanfitnesscoach
@martawatermanfitnesscoach 3 жыл бұрын
Wow!! Thank you so much. I have been learning Mandarin mostly using Pinyin, but recently have started trying to learn to read and write the hanzi. This Scritter app is just what I need!! I am so thankful to have stumbled upon your video. Thank you.
@storylearning
@storylearning 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@SmallSpoonBrigade
@SmallSpoonBrigade 3 жыл бұрын
Skritter is good, but take a look at plecco and outlier linguistics, they've got a great set of resources for working with the characters.
@marta5sings
@marta5sings 3 жыл бұрын
@@SmallSpoonBrigade I tried pleico before but was so confused by it. I will try again.
@quochuynh184
@quochuynh184 3 жыл бұрын
@Marta Immersive Chinese is good too.
@BlankCanvas88
@BlankCanvas88 2 жыл бұрын
I'm having success learning Spanish with Lingopie. It teaches using TV show clips. I think this is great b/c I've heard so many times how someone learned English through watching TV shows. Plus, you get to hear how people ACTUALLY speak in the real world (for the most part).
@joelthomastr
@joelthomastr 3 жыл бұрын
1 and 2 are acquisition apps, 3 and 4 are learning apps
@raniaden
@raniaden 2 жыл бұрын
sorry, Olly, but Duolingo works for me. not deleting it. but thanks for the video! gave me much to think about. Obrigado!
@thestoicgreyhound
@thestoicgreyhound 3 жыл бұрын
What side of the card should you show first for flashcard apps? Your native language or target language? I used to go from my target language to my native and only recently switched it. I've found it much more difficult now
@heathersaxton8118
@heathersaxton8118 3 жыл бұрын
Do both
@thestoicgreyhound
@thestoicgreyhound 3 жыл бұрын
@@heathersaxton8118 Thanks!
@storylearning
@storylearning 3 жыл бұрын
More difficult = better! Flashcards are best used for training production, not training recognition (which you can get from simply reading). In other words: Display your native language first, and force yourself to recall the target language.
@thestoicgreyhound
@thestoicgreyhound 3 жыл бұрын
@@storylearning Awesome! I'll continue doing exactly that. Thank you for responding Olly :)
@kugmath520
@kugmath520 2 жыл бұрын
Cognitive load!
@TheMinnaKat
@TheMinnaKat 2 жыл бұрын
So, I had this video on my watch later list. The video is good, but the title is misleading. Happy learning in 2022, everyone!! :)
@skullbonefortnitefilms4156
@skullbonefortnitefilms4156 2 жыл бұрын
Olly, how can i use a content app as a beginner in French, as i don't know enough French to understand what is said or written? Thanks for taking the time to make these videos.
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