The ONLY Device you ever need for the NEC PC Engine /TurboGrafx16 - Super SD System 3 Review | MVG

[@ModernVintageGamer]

Note: this device DOES work with a TurboGrafx16

[@yorgle]

How? they have different formfactors i thought...

[@6581punk]

I guess you remove the unit from the case and insert it into the back of the TG16.

[@sylver5244]

Note : this device DOESN'T work on PC Engine DUO

[@petermidani4506]

so you can play your TurboGraphx16 games on this system? I love ninja spirit

[@frankynakamoto2308]

Modern Vintage Gamer Why didn't they make the adapter with the console in it? They can also add GameBoy and GameBoy advance slots to play them. With all the Roms integrated, all they need to do is use a USB inside.

[@EmanuelFrias]

I'm not sure if it's just me but I've noticed that you actually sound at a pretty good volume, which makes me believe you take the time to master your sound, something many channels do not do and can sometimes sound not as loud as they could. Awesome! :)

[@MrMario2011]

Really don't know too much about the PC Engine but decided to give this a watch, this thing is awesome. Definitely jam packed with features that set it beyond it simply being another flashcart. Great review, dude!

[@Bewefau]

ha ha Mr mario. You should show us how to put ps3 motherboard in a PC case. With a xbox 360 all in one case working with PC power supply :)

[@mduke2k]

Does this work and fit on the North American Turbografx 16 expansion slot without modifying the plastic cosole casing? I have a complete in box TG-16 and I play it. I want to keep everything stock for collection purposes.

[@mduke2k]

It is also important to get true RGB out. All of the research I've done says you have to internally mod the system's RGB and SYNC signals. But on the other hand this product and others like the db-Electronics grafx booster claim to produce true RGB video without internal mods. I have the skills and willingness to do the internal mod, just not to my stock, in box TG-16. I'd sooner buy the PCE if I can't have my cake and eat it too!

[@tarstarkusz]

Make sure you check out Rainbow Islands CD version. Easily the best home version of the game ever made and has the right music. I do think this is terribly overpriced though. Not having to buy the CDs is just pirating, you aren't actually saving any money. The original CDs are not copyprotected anyway and so you can simply BURN them!

[@MiiMaker]

Gen 4? Duh. Gen 5 - 6 (DC, PS2, GCN) is the best gaming era for those who born in 1999 and other gen Z.

[@Kimomaru]

Picking up a PC Engine in Tokyo next week. No idea how you do it, you're reading my mind.

[@ModernVintageGamer]

have a good trip man! let me know what goodies you bring back ;)

[@Kimomaru]

Will do. Keep the videos coming, will be checking in from Tokyo/Osaka/Kyoto.

[@godofmediocrity7582]

What goodies did you bring back?

[@Kimomaru]

@@godofmediocrity7582 None. Believe it or not, you can pick up hardware a LOT cheaper from Tokyo on Ebay. Wasn't worth the effort to bring back on a flight.

[@silentfanatic]

Got one of these last year and I've been tremendously pleased with it. Everyone who's even remotely interested in the PCE needs to buy one of these babies stat!

[@Vriess123]

Yeah it's fantastic to have the full library available. I wish I could get Svideo out of this thing though damn

[@MsMadLemon]

Great review! I'm always impressed each time I see the PC Engine in action.

[@LambdaCalculus379]

MsMadLemon I just wish that the PC Engine wasn't so blasted expensive nowadays on the aftermarket! I would still like to add one to my collection!

[@RustyX2010]

LambdaCalculus379 back in 2002-2005 they were about $20-30!

[@BlownMacTruck]

0:29 "It failed to compete with Sony and Nintendo…" I think you mean Sega? Unless you mean those hilariously bad Sony Imagesoft games, lol.

[@nikolas_schreck]

It kicked ass in Japan

[@nicolasdoucet32]

Cool video! (loved the Phenomena Demo music you thew in there).

[@armstrong1990]

It threw me off when I heard you say the PC Engine was released in 1997, lol -- a simple error but it made me do a double take on wiki to make sure my mind wasn't going! Still one of my fav consoles to date! I'm hoping TerraOnion makes a shell for the US model!

[@JhoferGamer]

its 1987 in japan for anyone wondering

[@rodneyabrett]

Beautiful design, that original Japanese version of the PC-Engine CD rom combo was so much sexier than the U.S. TurboGrapx one with its akward T shape.

[@oldhunterraziel5327]

Works with SuperGrafx system and supports SuperGrax games as well. I have just placed an order due to your amazing review so thank you so much!! I can retire my component modded DUO-RX now and avoid the region swapping of hucard games.

Nice vid, as for Enigma -Phenomena, ADORE that groundbreaking demo and toon!!!

[@bepowerification]

I love it when I find a youtube creator and after binge watching him/her whatever he/she makes a video about I enjoy watching it. thank you sir! like Techmoan's kitchen stuff reviews.. or everything the 8bitguy creates. or you

[@RitzyBusiness]

This system didn't even catch me eye since it wasn't one I grew up with. But seeing the kinds of games on it... I really want one now. Looks like a blast to play with~

[@RetroGameStream]

I really enjoy the composition of your videos. All the videos I've seen are clear, concise and flow really well. You seem to not mind speaking your mind either, a really good resource for info on the products you review. Thanks!

[@WestSide1207]

The people who think this item is too expensive are simply nuts... It would cost more to just buy a PC Engine Duo system, or one of the myriad number of CD games that hundreds of dollars. So with this item, all you need is a PC Engine console (base, Core Grafx I or II, TG16) and now you can play: 1. Every single HuCard game 2. Every single CD game 3. Every single Super Grafx game (if you have the console) 4. All arcade CD games PLUS: RGB and component video support without modding your console. If you can't afford the price, that's understandable. But don't say the item is overpriced, because it provides a stunning amount of content and features for the price. Yes, I may have a couple complaints, but they are overall quite negligible and can be addressed with a future firmware patch. This has been one of the best additions to my videogame collection, and now I have unlocked the full potential of my PC Engine and it is quickly becoming one of my favorite consoles of all time.

[@nororengo286]

You will spend about the same or more if you dont have the PC-engine/Tg-16 system. might be cheaper to get a PC-Engine Duo-R already RGB modded and Recapped. no copy protection, so you can Burn games. and get an everdrive for $75. out of all the CD based games, maybe 30 are even worth playing. This thing is awesome dont get me wrong, you are right about people complaining about price.

[@WestSide1207]

Hello kyle, You are right about a number of things, but one more aspect I forgot to mention is the convenience factor. Since you can get the BIOs for all the system cards (and the arcade card is built in already) that is one thing that makes it easier, plus having all your CD bin/cue files on a single microSD card instead of hundreds of CDs. There is also the reliability factor, many Duo-R's have failing CD drives at this point, and while fixable, it is not always a cheap process. So there is much less of a headache with just getting an SSDS3.

[@nickwallette6201]

Standard ridiculous complaint on every accessories video. Basically, "it costs money, and I don't have any, thus it's overpriced."

[@timg555]

It's overpriced because emulation is a thing which is basically all this unit is doing.

[@joe_schmoe_420]

@@timg555 I guess everdrive and all those flash carts are just emulating too Not like physical hardware ever made a difference in performance of a game... /s

[@argedismun2]

I always wanted something similar for the Sega genesis, an sd card reader add-on that can let you play Sega CD and Sega 32x games without the extra hardware attachments

[@ModernVintageGamer]

i think an ODE for SegaCD would be awesome. hopefully we will see it one day!

[@gudenau]

You'd need two devices for that I'm pretty sure. I'm guessing the 32X would be really hard to replicate. Would need a couple CPUs/CPU cores on a FPGA. Same sort of thing for the Sega CD.

[@khhnator]

unfortunadely, unlike the pc engine the sega cd is not just a disc drive, it has its own processor and gpu

[@SonofSethoitae]

One just came out for the Sega CD, and I believe they're working on one for the 32X

[@LVNeptune]

@@SonofSethoitae 32x is required but it does play 32x roms if it's attached.

[@LambdaCalculus379]

Awesome review, MVG! This is definitely going to be a must-have if I manage to ever land myself a PC Engine!

[@retroforce6919]

I remember back in the day my friend had a PC engine I was blown away by the graphics.

[@NintenPizza]

I remember catching the TurboGraFx at my local Mall's game shop somewhere around late 89 - 90'. There were a couple of Kiosks, where i got to play Bonk's Adventure, while Keith Courage was on display in the stores main showcase with all of the Turbo Accessories. I remember seeing Samurai 'mode' Keith roaming around on a CRT and my jaw almost hit the floor. The colors and visuals for Bonk were defnitely impressive after being so accustomed to the NES too. 89, was amazing time to be alive! :D Yet, the lack of a 2nd controller port, no Composite/AV port(They made us fork over more money for adapters which was pure BS) poor CD case Box Art, lame UCard logo-only sticker art, and poor commercial adverts. The controller looked cool, but the NA console design was a bit of a mixed bag. Plus there didn't seem to be an real support from some of the key players like Capcom or Konami. They completely butchered the TurboGraFx in NA. lol Anyways, thinking about getting a PC Engine(White) + PC Engine CD paired with the Interface Unit. Looks awesome aesthetically, plus you get composite cable support.

[@turbolenza35]

For the price, they could have added HDMI

[@TotallyGoodatGames]

That would have risen the already steep price even further. Especially if they had used a quality upscaler that properly upscales such a low resolution.

[@RobertSzasz]

Totally Good at Games it looks like they are using an fpga for ease of development, HDMI out would be fairly straightforward.

[@afropowa1598]

I feel the same!

[@AngryChkn]

HDMI is not something a lot of retro console enthusiasts want. Maybe an add-on option? toggle switch? I could get into that

[@Grishanof]

For the price you get a NUC-tier hardware and emulate the hell out of it

[@redbeardnj]

Great video,,,,such an underated system. Would love to see a tech analysis of it and learn more about whats under the hood!

[@joveaaron-real]

2:12 Yeeeeeeeeeeees! A Final Hyperbase finally!

[@8KilgoreTrout4]

Your input just matters to me! Great work

[@alex76gr]

Excellent video! I think "Shadow Of The Beast" has an absolutely fantastic CD audio track on this system.

[@PadPoet]

Mmmmm, dat closet! Great review mate, as always!

[@IoriYagamiX98]

I love this stuff. I got one and Im in love with it. Now theres a new one that also allowes you using the SuperGrafx games, the 12 of them, has a NES builtin emulator and provides HDMI

[@Sun-ut9gr]

Reverse polarity is a class 1, 2, and 3 defect per IPC, so you were right to point that out. Granted those are tantalum caps and don't pop like electrolytic caps, but a defect is a defect and that'll still kill the cap. IDK why I watched this though. I don't even have a PC engine, but now I kinda want one 😂

[@rgm4646]

I used to use an emulator called Magic Engine to play games to reduce the use of my original pce cards and CDs. Show Blazing Lazers or Legendary Axe 1 and 2, Silent Debuggers, there are soo many ;) Great old school video BTW! I have a LOT of memories with that console.

[@lucius1976]

By brother had one,. I only owned computers, but played all consoles my brother had. He had Sega Master, Mega Drive, SNES, but PC Engine i remembered to be far ahead of its time. He got it after the Master System and it was such a great step ahead.

[@seekertosecrets]

I played that system once last year. I had soooooo much fun with it!

[@johnnyjohannesson8533]

thanks for the tip! i see alot of people complain about price.. but i had planed to buy a duo-r or RX system from japan to play both cards and cds and that would cost pretty much the same and wouldnt have all the games.. so buying this will actually save me alot of money compared to buying all the original hardware and games ive had my eyes on.. so im buying one!

[@gonorrheabreath3774]

I had the TurboGrafx 16 handheld system with color TV. It's crazy how people are revisiting the games... that was my reality as a kid and it was top of the market gaming system, lol.

[@canadiansaabfreak6530]

Great vid ModernVintangeGamer, back at it again with the Commodore monitor

[@rgm4646]

My Favorite system! I have a TG16 with CD and a TurboDUO.

[@ericochoa4034]

300 seems like alot but think of the savings of not having to purchase original games that can cost as much as the system alone! Rgb output plus access to the entire pc engine library! I think its worth it!

[@HitBit_Gaming]

Nice to know some history about this machine. But personally I rather stick with emulation for older consoles with Retropie on a Raspberry Pi 3. Not only for the huge difference in pricing but also because the lack of space for every console ever released on my shelves. I will agree that playing games on the original vintage hardware with even a old television gives the best experience but emulation gives a great experience as well. I do always try to look for USB replica's of the controllers to get as close to the original experience as possible with only one computer for emulation.

[@snugglyjeff214]

yeah that was my first thought....why go through all this to do almost the same thing with emulation using filters? Just seems like a giant waste of space and money. I mean they are emulating some games on the original hardware....seems pretty dumb.

[@vasileios6301]

+ Snuggly Jeff They arent emulating games on original hardware but converting them,the differece is big. Ofcourse I am into emulators also because they get the job done almost perfect,I dont support original hardware-software,I would only if I was rich.

[@snugglyjeff214]

Vasileios bullshit. Explain these huge differences.

[@vasileios6301]

+Snuggly Jeff The difference between convert and emulate is really big,2 different things. I wont do the teacher here explaining technical stuff but you have to make a better research

[@snugglyjeff214]

Vasileios basically you have no idea what you're talking about...got it

[@otopico]

I wish there was something this well thought out for my US TurboGrafx Duo.

[@TheXev]

The TG16 did poorly in the US because they simply did not advertise outside of large markets (the same strategy they used in Japan). I had no idea the TG16 existed when growing up until one day randomly going into Toy's R Us. This was around the time Sonic 2 had just been released and I remember playing Air Zonk and never EVER forgetting that game. If I bought a TG16, Air Zonk would be the first game I'd buy.

[@DJ239]

wow very cool! I was just glad when I got my PC engine recently that street fighter 2 was still cheap!

[@Spoticus]

Your absence was noted. Great video as always.

[@AlanPope]

Oh man. I used to lust after the PC Engine as a kid. I remember at school pouring over games magazines, looking at the lovely colourful sprites. I wanted one so bad and they were stupidly expensive (for a schoolkid). Now I have the disposable income, the price has gone back up again :D. One day :)

[@NightWolve75]

I retracted my Like on this video. As some know TerraOnion's Alex harasses competitors and as krikzz's country was being bombed/invaded by Russia, he chose to troll him, imply he was a cowardly draft-dodger for trying to get himself/his family out of Ukraine, also accused him of being a tax cheat to keep prices low (so Alex can justify his own higher prices to customers). Long story short, I'd never buy a TO product, and luckily will instead choose the Analogue Duo over this solution!

[@andrij.demianczuk]

I'm fairly certain that reversed capacitor only affects the composite video decoder. The RGB decoder doesn't on the other hand so by using either a SCART or Jp-21 cable you effectively bypass that module. Good info for anyone with older revs that don't want to muck about with soldering.

[@maurice482390]

thanks for the vid I was always interested in the PC engine

This is actually something I'd be interested in. Time to start savin' mah sheckles. :D

[@wojiaobill]

so, I was really psyched about this thing and decided to go look at ordering one. ... 240 euros @_@ good lord no thanks! ill keep using my PC to emulate the games! lol

[@ryanstory1642]

yeah I'm not getting the point of this when you can emulate. The only reason for having the console would be for collectors, but this method still doesn't have you collecting the games... It's just $300 emulation...

[@crowsinthenose]

Ryan Story Emulation is great and all, but for nostalgia, original hardware does add to the experience. I got an Amiga 1200/30 with whdload. No fussing about with floppies, but still close enough to what I grew up with to tickle the nostalgia bone in all the right places.

[@noop9k]

30 bucks Raspberry Pi is sufficient, and you also get to play Aldynes.

[@vitoferrante1]

noop9k there is that.

[@moomah5929]

That why I got a Mega Drive again (the games I still had). Emulation simply doesn't give me the same vibe. Now I'm only missing a CRT. I'm still wondering if I should get a Mega CD but I never owned one so it might be enough to emulate it with my laptop and connecting a CRT Monitor via VGA plus getting a Mega Drive style USB controller. I always liked the look of the TurboDuo and would prefer to get one of them. And a Sharp X68000 in black... And a Wondermega model 1... *dream* The Amiga would be also interesting as I only played a friend's Amiga 500 and went from C64 directly to PC (not counting consoles). I don't miss the C64's floppy flipping though as playing Ultima 6 was a pain.

[@retrogamingegypt2308]

This vid is a thing of beauty ❤️

[@Retro2futuregaming]

This device is awsome mate, thanks for sharing.

[@ericochoa4034]

Great Review! The hd retrovision sega genesis 2 component cable works as well!

[@chinarut]

this looks fantastic on RGB! @10:21 had no idea there was a R-Type complete CD!!

[@jefersonrodrigues6983]

Very good because Prince is up!

[@RetroSalesAustralia]

Nice review!

[@ToddsNerdCave]

Awesome video brotha!

[@johneygd]

An absolute incredible device.

[@melaningamer_]

Enjoyable video sir.

[@marcianzero_yt]

Also i wonder whether the "Hyperbased - Firefox & Tip" was influenced by "Cream of the Earth" from Romeo Knight. :)

[@DJAlexUnderBase]

great review

[@allan.n.7227]

amazing in game soundtracks... !

[@GoLion]

I love my SD System 3. I haven't had the audio buzz issue fixed yet, but it's really not that big of a deal to me. My only complaint is the clunky menu system. It's a bit weird.

[@sdmods619]

I recognize that xm or mod audio playing in the video background. Nice!

[@Riz2336]

That things pretty cool man, really unlocks everything capable on the system. Price is a little steep though

[@KarLKoX]

Again, an excellent and interesting video ! For me too, the PC Engine take a special place in my heart : i was one of the first to buy one here, in France, in late 80s (and i began to code an emulator ^_^ ) However, the price for this device is too high for me, perhaps around 200$, i would think about it :)

[@tubeMonger]

2:55 mod.hyperbased by Firefox (and Tip)!

[@RoyOP1407]

wow its cool to see things like this,my dad actually owns a turbographx 16 andd from time to time he pulls it out and we usuually end up playing r type and some game where your a ninja or a samurai,i cant really remeber the name right now lol but seeing this reminds me of my childhood :)

[@erikhecht4352]

Ninja Spirit. 😎

[@mspenrice]

Are those all video captures from the device itself? They look clean enough that I thought they were screencapped out of an emulator... Also does the machine optionally produce 31khz video, or have you managed to somehow get hold of an SXGA Dell monitor that accepts 15khz?! (...and SCART?!)

[@arigato7788]

Oh shit I'm definitely considering getting a PC-Engine now

[@goodstuffohhyeah]

0:29 "It failed to compete with SONY and Nintendo". Sony wasn't in the game yet son

[@DavideNastri]

Sega, I'd say.

[@MichaelBennett1]

Time for a PC-Engine mini.

[@RedHairdo]

@NTSCollector-J Plus, like all the other "minis", it would be simply an emulator, and a sucky one at that.

[@ShelfWarmer]

yes, it is, isnt it? lol

[@KYBlueJedi]

2020 says hi and your welcome.

[@JakeSweeper]

Have you checked to see if it'll work with that genesis hdmi plug? That'd be a good way to bring it to new TVs

[@CommodoreFan64]

I was thinking this might be cool till I heard the $300 price tag, I think I'll just stick to emulation when it comes to the PC Engine/TG-16 at these prices, as even a decent modern Android phone can emulate the PCE/TG-16 with little issue.

[@msjb1976]

Thanks for the video! I never owned a PC Engine, but was super keen. I’m a little confused which machine version to buy (e.g. like the original machine, core 2, SuperGrafx..) Which machine version do I need to be able to play up to SuperGrafx roms and CD’s with the nifty add on..?

[@quiksr20]

So being you confirmed its an "FPGA" is it wise to think it will be as accurate as the Analogue - Super Nt in time? If so this is awesome cause outside of the SNES i loved the TG16 growing up.

[@nextlevelgamez9243]

Liked and subscribed and hit up the notification Bell. Great video.

[@TheZorch]

I used to have a TurboGrafx-CD, I miss those days.

[@_zoinks2554]

So no western version for my TG16? Also, it is quite a difficult process putting the CD rom files together. The chip games are easy to rip however.

[@craiganderson7085]

Awesome review video! Back in the early 90s in High School I used to read EGM and was always fascinated with the PC-Engine and the Super CD Rom2 System. I wanted to play these games so much, but what was the youtube or the internet in 93? I appreciate this inside look alot and will definitely be getting one.

[@bENOFFICIALMASSIVE]

U can get one on Ebay from Japan for $200 atm. I'm thinking of investing. The games are more expensive than 2nd hand other retro games but brand new ps4 or Switch games are around the same price.

[@ryanwakebradtelle8682]

If the transparent gray accessories that I forgot the name of has display out and SD card support then wouldn't it just be cheaper to have a cable go to USB and the program on your computer, I mean if I had a collection of consoles in my living room all set up I would probably have a media PC there as well. I'm not saying it's easier just said it's cheaper, and they're wondering what the benefits are for emulation, I mean you are already running an SD card so it's not really that big of a lead.

[@RunningRiotRich]

Bonk, bomberman, splatter house.. those were my jams

[@mutkaheki]

Is the unit you have Rev. B? Also how is the new firmware update working, from December 2020?

[@CanuckGod]

Love your content and keep up the good work. Teeny nitpick, but it's Grafx as opposed to Graphx. Either way, it was a neat system, and though I never purchased one, they used to demo them at Radio Shack [RIP :( ] and I wasted my time (and the store clerks' patience) on Bonk more than I care to admit.

[@MrPotteeMouf]

STFU STUPID ASSHOLE

[@Rupert1213]

Amazing channel, subscribed. I love the PC Engine, but it's so expensive. Definitely waiting for this to get reverse engineered by the Chinamen!

[@xtofpixinn]

Does the video signal still goes out from the original composite output? Or only from the "new" RGB one on the rear?

[@ThirdSpectrum]

$300 for something that looks like a game shark knock off.

[@MegaManNeo]

Out of my price range sadly (especially with a PCE added) but still a cool device. I just wonder, since you said it's a FPGA device couldn't they just make it work on its own?

[@ProtomanBlues87]

I don't have a PC Engine, but Im glad you said it works on Turbo Grafx 16. Probably gonna end up with one of these. Also, I dont see why not, but can you load roms with translation patches onto it?

[@PlayerOneStart]

Really cool. I’ve been wanting to play more on my Pc Engine but price has prohibited me from doing so.

[@Gorilla_Jones]

Turbo Grafx16 was a great machine.

[@GadgetUK164]

Excellent review =D

[@GlensRetroShow]

GadgetUK164 - Retro Gaming Repairs & Mods no less excellent then yours sir

[@thomasschmidt6424]

#Modern Vintage Gamer So this uses the console's original hardware to play ROMs? How is it doing that without the CD drive? Does the CD games not really need the drive?

[@kevpowful]

Great vid, thank you. Since you have an original pce cd system ... Does the brief case unit play burned cd backups?

[@ModernVintageGamer]

it does, theres no copy protection but burned cd's can be really bad for the laser

[@XbandTv]

0:30 Wait, what?? Excuse me? Failed to compete with "Sony" and Nintendo?? Sony was not a player at this time! They were as relevant in gaming as Panasonic, Magnavox, Sanyo, and Radioshack at this time. I think you meant to say they could not compete with Sega and Nintendo.

[@nilswegner2881]

Didn't he say that?

[@fifaworldcup1994]

Errors happen man. I didn't even noticed it the first time.

[@epiclolguy4136]

Out of curiosity, why aren't your videos 4k anymore? I was just wondering because that was one of the reasons that made you unique; well besides the fact you go in depth with underrated consoles and explain reasons how to modify them to such intriguing capabilities.

[@ModernVintageGamer]

when i am capturing gameplay, i prefer to render at 60fps, otherwise my videos will be 4k as usual

[@ryanshoemaker9153]

This is a great addon idea! But I must wonder if it's really worth the money at this point? I mean now you're just loading roms onto the console. So why not just go all the way and use an emulator? At that point you would get the lovely upscaling a framemiester can do and don't need to buy a console or addons if you choose not to. I have been pondering this as of late with several of my own consoles in my collection breaking down.

[@lordmuaddib]

dayum, i love my pc-engine duo-r but this device is something else..! i wonder if supergrafx games support can be added great review

[@w4lsh]

It supports the SuperGrafx games, if you're using it with a SuperGrafx.

[@lordmuaddib]

after checking things a little more deeper the sgx seems to have something more than a ram expansion from stock pce (in the video department). still, since there are working sgx fpga cores around already, it might be possible to make 'em work. unless it's something impossible to manage from the pce expansion bay bus, that is

[@Codeman785]

Really like your videos dude, just found your channel, and plan to keep watching.

[@Teremei]

I just found out about this and I agree. I just got a sega MG and terraonion sega cd fpg card. This PC Engine card is my next purchase.

[@Fahrenheit38]

How about a update to cover if the few firmware issues were ironed out or not

[@2kBofFun]

A regular RGB EXT-bus amp combined with a SD-HuCard will do, combined under 100 bucks.

[@brpadington]

Is it still way cheaper to get a Pc engine than a Turbographix16? I love how small the PCengine is and wanting to go that route.