The Orania Situation: Is it Racist?

[@jrr6947]

I spoke to a town councilman from there 2 years ago. He told me: "A White family in South Africa hires cheap Black labour to do the gardening and cleaning, while in Orania White people clean and garden themselves. So which is more racist? The family who claims not to be racist but pays cheap for Black labour or the family who wants their own space and cleans and gardens their own house?" The idea to live separately isn't racist, no matter if the founders had racial prejudice. And to do everything on their own, cutting all ties with cheap labour is remarkable considering the history behind it.

[@ratbatnufftime2861]

That argument was the very crux of apartheid, so it is indeed racist.

[@jrr6947]

@@ratbatnufftime2861 Except Apartheid was where Whites hired cheap Black labour...and here they are vehemently against it.

[@leewhitaker538]

@@ratbatnufftime2861 ~ Every racial group is allowed to do the same thing as Orania did. Not racist.

[@mildlydispleased3221]

​@@leewhitaker538Why must people remain separated by race?

[@tshidisomoraka8861]

@@leewhitaker538 But why do it in an African country i mean if you dont want to be around black then maybe moving away from their homeland would be ideal.

[@MKLeluma]

It's you, and some other people, that believe that Orania is racist. I don't belief so. Instead of us, blacks, moaning about Orania we should be taking a leaf out of their book. They started their own town from scratch while we perpetually live in a pity party street. We have arable land in the "homelands". We don't use it and expect grants from government. I have great respect for residents of Orania

[@edwardamosbrandwein3583]

@MKLeluma Congrats! My deepest respect for you!

[@malanpapenfus6667]

Thank you. I agree.

[@tokkieandrews9988]

My advice to you and the tribes of South Africa ,take back your homelands from the ANC because they are giving your homelands to the Chinese to mine for minerals .

[@paullombard00]

Thank you sir, you sound like someone who can be a leader for your own community! You can do it!

[@vadimkondratiev7214]

we have similar settlements in Paraguay by German-speaking mennonites. Very hardworking people who do not let outsiders buy land and settle. It is their right. It is not about the race, but the culture. If the general level of culture in the country hit the rock-bottom, the desire to self-segregate is absolutely normal.

[@billswisshelm1505]

Congratulations on your growth Orania. I hope villages all of South Africa, of every ethnicity and race, can learn and emulate your successes.

[@nedor64]

Best place to live in South Africa at the moment it is safe, crime-free, corruption-free, racism-free, not overpopulated, and has excellent facilities, etc.

[@beerstein7137]

Before you critisize Orania in any sense please show me any `diverse' town of similar size in South Africa that can compare with Orania at any level, except for being more diverse.

[@irresponsibleparent3]

Meh, it's not necessarily about being diverse but a group of people coming together for a common goal and sharing common values. They set up rules and standards that everyone must follow and everyone has to contribute to the town's self-sufficiency. Civil societies are based on laws and those who don't follow them are not tolerated. Good for them that they were able to build their own society and I wish them luck.

[@invisibleray6987]

It's a joke 😂

[@masterq2.033]

​@invisibleray6987 Go visit it with an open mind. I'm not a white Afrikaner. I went and had a look. What an eye opener. Modern , friendly, and humming with activity. Progressive development with conservative values.

[@longiusaescius2537]

@irresponsibleparent3 exactly

[@longiusaescius2537]

@masterq2.033 yeah

[@59Gretsch]

Every group is entitled to create it sound space and live at its own destiny.

[@imskar4990]

Its not about racist as everything today but self preservation of a culture. There is a lot of examples of this around the world, such as the Amish, American Indians in the reservations.

[@invisibleray6987]

Don't forget Eskimo's 😂

[@karinvn76]

🤣🤣Why is everyone so obsessed with Orania. We've got the same in Soweto, Lesotho, Nkandla? You don't see Orania people labelling them as racist. Just curious.

[@jorgefries]

I was curious but don't worry, the Soweto one is coming next month😉

[@karinvn76]

@@jorgefries does not answer the question. I'm living in Orania... NOT because I'm a racist. I chose to live among like minded people, safety, values, and God and yet I get labelled for something I'm not.

[@jorgefries]

And that's fine. I have no problem with you or anyone living there. What other people do is none of my concern. And like I said, yall are not a monolith. The initial idea was maar racist, maar ek weet nie hoe lewe julle daarso nie. En dit het niks met my te doene nie.

[@karinvn76]

@@jorgefries en dis presies die probleem. Niemand weet hoe ons lewe nie, maar die rasis plakker word geplak. So ons word skuldig bevind nog voor die verhoor. Lewe moet moeilik wees vir sulke mense.

[@jorgefries]

Hoe is lewe daar btw ? Vra manet uit nuuskierigheid. Ek glo julle is alright, die oorsprong was maar racist maar julle is seke alright.

[@nedor64]

It's strange how many videos you see nowadays of people going to Orania and then being totally surprised at what they see there 🤣Many of them think they will find a town with people living in squalor but instead, they find the only crime-free village in South Africa that is expanding and is safe with normal people living there. 🤣Orania will become a city in future and we are planning more Oranias to house our people so "adapt or die" The afrikaner are not interrested in taking resposiblity for other races or nations and they dont want other races to be reponsible for afrikaner future which I think is fair.

[@edwardamosbrandwein3583]

@nedor64 Right

[@royalnubian62]

What would be fair is your people, Dutch, french, German go back to said countries. Which are predominantly white.,( But word is that THEY don't want your RAC💪🏾st aces either. Well neither do we!!) Then the REAL SOUTH AFRICANS can get back Land that your nefarious ancestors stole from them. Then all would be cumbyya!! 🤷🏾🤷🏾🤷🏾✊🏿❤️✊🏽🖤😂💯💯💯💯

[@kamogelobigross707]

So afrikaners should not be allowed to govern in South Africa if that is the case since they strongly believe in segregation so much

[@nedor64]

​@@kamogelobigross707at the moment Afrikaners are not interested in governing SA because it is fu.. D. They want to govern themselves and they will do it.

[@gavinmillar7519]

I admire the people of Orania who are bucking the trend of South Africa. A town has no concept of race. People have their own opinions and they have every reason to be proud of their achievements. Their forefathers would be proud of them

[@peterconnor4193]

The crime figures speak for themselves

[@rere8219]

So you're saying only black people commit crimes

[@kamogelobigross707]

The only thing white South Africans are concerned about is crime rather than uplifting the disadvantaged black/colored and Indians in SA , they forget that poverty leads to crime also uplifting them ecomically will extremely reduce crime in the country since poverty is the major source of crime in SA

[@billyb7469]

Nothing wrong with living with your own culture

[@pierreterblanche541]

There is a lot wrong with it. The problem is that these places were build on masonic thoughts. Broederbonders etc. Their narrative was to build a community where their own privileges could be kept in tack. It is called narsism. I have black and colored friends. Highly educated. They are not allowed to live in places like Orania and Kleinfontein due to the color of their skin. I have a colored friend who is a Doctor. He doesn't even swear. He is the most wel behaved person I know. He is not even allowed there. Instead the Freemasonry gurus would rather allow white uneducated druck addicts entry to come work in their gardens. Then go to their Dopper church every Sunday, pad themselves on the back proclaiming how they help their fellow man. You dare you to try and rent a property in one of these places and ask them for work. You are nothing in their eyes. They will let you squatter somewhere and make you a garden boy. I dare you to try it

[@hyperquantum3020]

@@pierreterblanche541 Dude if you love blacks go live with them, dont tell others with who they should live

[@johnmars3868]

Viva Orania! Keep up the good work and may you guys continue to grow and grow your town!

[@rere8219]

You are messed up bro

[@dennykeaton9701]

👍👍👍

[@rhulanifurumele9728]

As a black young south African Orinia is doing good, service delivery, crime and fund's are well managed

[@martinsky3636]

Its not racist, its peoples choice, let them being

[@isrbillmeyer]

Every nation has the right to self determination and control over own area without being swamped by economic migrants. Something that Europe, Britain and USA is beginning to learn now and they don't seem to like it that much.

[@mossfairy3060]

No not at all. They want to live with their ppl. I don't blame them because living under the ANC IS DISASTROUS fokall works

[@jorgefries]

The video was more about why it was created and rn, I guess it's not, but the reason for it being created was very racist.

[@Mohale89]

What a nice way to justify racism

[@Seuntjie]

​​​@@jorgefries 100% but look at the state of our beautiful country at the moment. We've been in recession for years and are in cahoots with Dictatorships from across the world... I don't blame them for trying to survive... I mean fuck I'm leaving the country and hopefully never coming back.

[@mossfairy3060]

@@Mohale89 it's not racism.

[@pietervorster5690]

​@@jorgefriesIt's not racist to want to live with your own culture, it's completely natural

[@josephthompson3817]

If I was financially stable, I will move there whole heartedly

[@psylentrage]

Comparative to almost ANY town in SA, it's thriving and self funded and not a burden to the taxpayer. As for racist, I'm going to guess you've never been there and is judging from afar. You're conveniently letting out that the 20th century Afrikaner came from a genocide at the turn of the century by the ACTUAL colonizer, and is STILL one of the smallest MINORITIES in SOUTH-AFRICA. Since you start your "investigative" channel in such a way, I'm sure you'll do well. All the best

[@jorgefries]

Afrikaners are not a monolith and I understand what they went through. The video was about the reason for the town's creation. There might be nice anti-racist folk there and there might not be. I won't know. But what I do know is what's in the vid😉 But hey thanks.

[@psylentrage]

@jorgefries But that's just it, YOU MADE THE VIDEO. You ask a question and answer in the positive at the end, yet haven't been there nor interviewed one person from there, etc. Your ignorance and prejudice are what's on display, not theirs.

[@jorgefries]

Never said the people were racist, the idea that led to it was though.

[@nedor64]

@@jorgefries 🤔"Never said the people were racist, the idea that led to it was though" So if you follow the idea are you racist or not? Anyway how do a racist look like?

[@aultherizeduplessis1349]

Well, I personally had a racist experience in Oranje and this shit about them having there own money and making there own money...then why do they have petrol stations with convenient stores excepting our money, My money, COLOURED money????

[@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805]

If the zulus wanted to separate and preserve their culture, one one would say anything. the fact that people are calling for the deaths of boers tells me the afrikaners dont have to justify getting as far away from people who wish them and their children dead.

[@teddydavis2339]

Africans need to stand up and fight for there land. I don't see anything wrong with Orania if it's working for them. White people have always and will always look out for their own. Blacks all over the world should learn to work together or they will always be left behind. They have such towns in Brasil. They call them Quilombos and they are black people who want to preserve their culture.

[@mpirokajosephmgcokoca2355]

They chose to live with one another using their money, there's nothing wrong there. Let people have a choice to live the way they see fit for them.

[@rere8219]

So living racist is fine..

[@quinquiry]

@@rere8219 it definitely IS

[@DaveS859]

@@rere8219I have no problem with blacks buying their own land and living how they want without disturbing others. Does that make me racist?

[@leewhitaker538]

@@rere8219 ~ Yes.

[@ShaneWKenneth]

Yet Europeans wont leave Africa, Australia, Americas ect...

[@p3p3_Frog]

I honestly don’t mind Orania I mean, a rich whole family in the rest of South Africa would hire a poor black gardener/ builder/ cleaner to do the dirt work, but in Orania, they do it themselves I don’t see why black South Africans shouldn’t build a black only town

[@tokkieandrews9988]

You did have your own homelands ,till the ANC decided to take away your homelands ,and give it to their Chinese buddies to build mines to dig for minerals.

[@dennisthemenace57]

The most liveable town in SA

[@Thank_God3]

They are taking care of their own when the countries BEE does not allow for them to be taken care of

[@peterconnor4193]

If this was a black town it would be haild as a beacon of light

[@edwardamosbrandwein3583]

@peterconnor4193 Of course! Another sample of the Left's hypocrisy and double standards.

[@rere8219]

Typical white answer..

[@RoimondRussell]

Well done Orania keep up the good work.

[@ObelixBarbatus]

So, freedom of association is racist? People who have certain principles which they do not want to compromise. To be clear, I need a diverse society. But, I cannot deny those who find their monoculture attractive. Let them be!

[@arnoldmeiring7710]

Thank you for anwering the question - how do they survive without Treasury funding or subsidies?

[@nick-ht3cn]

Oh gosh plz just leave them alone they are not bothering anyone.

[@rere8219]

You're probably white

[@quinquiry]

they are bothering the PROGRESSIVE advocates of DIVERSITY ENRICHMENT

[@attieschutte7116]

I am going to retire there someday, cant wait and dont care 5 cents what other people think about that.

[@tokkieandrews9988]

Mr Verwoerd,was black listed as the apartheid master ,come on people apartheid comes from the British ,and the fact that the different tribes wanted their own homelands ,thats where apartheid really started each tribe wanted to be independent and rule over themselves,have their own cultures ,traditions and their own languages ,and the British " when SA was under the Commonwealth"in the late 1800's gave them their homelands to once and for all stop the tribal wars ,there was no wish to be amongst white people,if they cant even live together with other black tribes ,this continuous lies about the afrikaner must stop ,and lay the blame by the black people themselves ,only Verwoerd saw that the black people were not coping anymore and decided to help the homelands build infrastructure ,schools,clinics , hospitals,but it never materialized because he was murdered because of him wanting to put money into helping the homelands . It was the afrikaner that allowed people from the homelands to come and work here in the cities and even build them townships so the workers families can be with them ,that is the truth not these damn lies the ANC and the EFF is telling you.

[@ralphmumbeck5758]

The concept is practically the same as the Kibbutz.

[@philemonlekopa3400]

I enjoyed this one🔥🔥I didn't even know oranja was bought actually. Cool stuff man😌

[@jorgefries]

Glad you enjoyed bro. I also didn't know much about the place but I'm happy it was informative

[@edwardamosbrandwein3583]

@@jorgefries Thx for your video Greetings from a Rhodesian expat

[@rynominnaar4506]

How can buildings and infrastructure be racist.....people are racist ..making this video is just an excuse of having something to be racist about.

[@KeodutseSerurubele]

They are not racist They set an example of how render service to the community So we must learn good things from them

[@ΒαγγεληςΝοτης]

It's fine they have their community why is it racist?

[@bngmnh3583]

...it's clean and safe Let's not overlook that. Try the same with your community, it'll work

[@Henry4ever]

It can't be racist...NEVER ... because the SA Constitution provides for SELF DETERMINATION Section 235. Los Orania uit...hulle floreer sonder grants en corruption.

[@frank-steeve3425]

Very good idea👏👏👏 !! Black south African must should inspire from this to create their own "black only" country. So everybody is fine!

[@JuicyMan-s2k]

I think blak people are busy destroying each other even asians are triving in africa

[@dn822]

You missed the mark. Its not about black. It's about culture. Zoeloes building there own town will be no problem to me.

[@59Gretsch]

If this group of people, or any group of people want to start their own community, how does that hurt you or anyone else? Just because something is racist centered doesn’t mean it’s racist. In my country it’s very common for all types of fraternities, clubs, professional guilds to be centered around a racial membership such as a black policeman‘s association. I suspect some people have a problem with this town simply because it’s successful. We’ve seen many instances with different black tribes in South Africa Are quite violent and oppressive to each other but no one is concerned with that.

[@5801160052086]

Aah yes, you hit the nail tight on the head. They want to tear Orania down because it's successful. Why, even black people are emigrating to get away from the mess the ANC has made of South Africa.

[@youngphenom84]

I totally support it. If you don’t like it create your own.

[@rere8219]

No because many of us out here are non racists and believe in living diverse...then there's you...

[@karinvn76]

@@rere8219 I live in Orania... Does that make me a racist for living among my own? What about Nkandla, Soweto, Lesotho? Are they also racist? What a stupid argment the west has been playing. Or do you get the good racists and the bad racists?

[@hyperquantum3020]

@@rere8219 Go live with your diversity, we will live with our own race.

[@maureenjackson2041]

@@karinvn76 No it doesn't make you racist, but soweto was created by the former Afrikaner nationalists during apartheid.

[@karinvn76]

@maureenjackson2041 if they don't like it... they can change it. My goodness, Orania was basicly build out of stockvel money. Everybody is working together for the greater good. Everybody is responsible for him/herself. Don't look to others for change... BE the change.

[@mannyferrao1013]

Wow, wasn't shocked with your conclusion, a group of people were able to build their own comunity with no government funding and now you call them racist. Now that's a racist comment. It's their culture they want to preserve and we see today that any statue, building or event aimed at the afrikaaner has been disbanded by the current south africa leader ship. I don't need to tell you what I think of aparteid but I'm sure glad that it's been somewhat desolved to an extent but I have no problem with a nation upholding their traditions and beliefs. That's my take on it.

[@TheShacharZiv]

A question that I haven't found an answer to yet: If Afrikaners really see themselves as a nation, why did they not settle closer to each other, and try to be a majority anywhere in South Africa?

[@armandslabbert5493]

What was the point of the groot Trek - which enevitably ended in the 'Vrystaat' and 'Transvaal' The Trek was them sticking seriously close together, until they found an area they felt comfortable to live. This areas was away from the Brits, Xhosa, Zulu, etc. But there were still natives were they encroached. But this area, Transvaal and Vrystaat, was nothing close to the whole of south Africa. Was this whole process peaceful? Definitely not. But does this answer your original question? Yes, it does.

[@TheShacharZiv]

@@armandslabbert5493 It does, thanks.

[@KFM197]

No it's not racist

[@zoyailpatel3608]

Orania residents are South African that prefer to live independently,its their democratic right,they dont interfere or demand from others,i admire their choice and wish them the best,❤❤❤❤❤

[@johngmulhatton9794]

I have never been to Orania, but I can assure you that I would seriously consider moving there. I used to employ casual Black labour who were otherwise unemployed, and they showed me a lot of respect. With the unrest that now prevails, I no longer use anyone to assist with my garden as I do it myself. Yes I may be on the wrong side of 70 years of age, but work does not kill anyone, it keeps the body active. Those Whites are just as entitled as the Blacks to own a piece of land within the bounds of South Africa, to call it their own territory. {This because I never needed worry about "a minimum wage"; They enjoyed the exact same breakfast as we (wife and I), they were given tea during the morning; had a full lunch (meal); same as what we ate. At the end of their required working hours; normally about 2-3pm, they were driven back home in my personal vehicle, with enough food for at least two days.(mince/veggies/fruit and loaf of bread) Besides this they received at least twice the minimum wage in money. No taxi to pay for as I was grateful for what they had done.}

[@cgsather3309]

Thx for the video, well done. One suggestion please: using stock footage isn’t necessary, I know it’s a trend but in your case you have some nice original and historical footage and the stock footage clouds it and makes awkward transitions. Looking forward to more videos.

[@ZeraldGoliath]

My question about Orania is not whether or not it's based on an apartheid or racist ideology but whether it is indeed sustainable.

[@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805]

Jorge, words mean something. Racist literally means you hate someone based on their race. Wanting to get away from the crime and attempts on their lives _doesnt equal racism_Try this next time, think "if it were black/asians/etc... doing this; would i still be upset?" if the honest answer is no (and be honest with yourself) then stop being silly. Also, Orania was a ghost town when the bought it, the government didnt want it, it was in the middle of the desert. No one was living there. stop lying.

[@tebohotsoari9912]

If an octopus has money to build it's own place to live. It doesn't mean you should go and live there. My guess is you're not gonna like it.

[@paullombard00]

"They had to leave the town after is purchase". Yes, that's right. When someone buys a property, it is theirs to do with what they want. Why does this seem like such a difficult concept to understand. Same issue in the BoKaap. The BoKaapenaars voluntarily sell their property

[@peterng25]

Racism is currently defined (by 'woke' people) as discrimination plus power. Since Orania does not have power, then it's more subtle and delicate to define this town.Does a tribe that wants to be and remain a tribe fit the definition of 'racist'? How should they be judged (and should they be judged at all) as long as they are powerless?

[@mattnewman9566]

It is not Racist at all they just want to live amongst there own kind.

[@rere8219]

Why...why is it so hard for them to live with non whites

[@brmaila6]

It's not racist, there are many blacks-only, indians-only and coloured-only areas in South Africa. Orania is not racist.

[@danielspencer6174]

Soon if E.F.F will change name of country from South Africa to Azania real name when the Europeans came in the country what can you say about that?

[@PhansiKhongoloza]

The country never had a name prior to the White man naming it! Besides you totally overlook the fact the White man arrived in the region before the West African Bantu.

[@SimonSeekoei]

Strongs to the Orania people. I support communities creating their own communities. We can also build our own Oranias for Coloureds, Zulus, Xhosas, etc. if we want to. No problem.

[@davidjacobsen308]

Why can't Afrikarners choose just to be by themselves? Xhosas could do the same, no one would complain right? I'm not Afrikaans, I'm an English speaking white person and I don't have an issue with it. Personally, I would much rather lived in a mixed race area where everyone is just friendly.

[@Kidane-wd5wo]

So do not complain about EFF, we need to build our own economy and take back our heritages.

[@tokkieandrews9988]

No not at all ,its just they are more comfortable to being amongst their have their own culture and traditions thats why they respected black people wanting their own culture and traditions and to be independent thats why they had there own homelands .

[@godfreygatsi-pu2cc]

No matter how endearing it is as long as its premised on exclusion of other ' culture's' it is racist. If Oranians want to move away from their town and join mainstream South Africa they wouldn't face any hurdles but the fact that they are not as accomodating i believe they are just racists.

[@thestonemaster81]

Perhaps you can address how the small town survives with that government assistance and why it is successful is it IQ question of the people or is it financial literacy? I find it interesting to see Africa as a whole is high crime, high poverty, much corruption in this little town I never heard anything about before doing so well, but they’re racist?

[@johanndupisanie7600]

Most images used in this video is outside of Orania. You are letting people, who knows nothing of Orania, making some conclusions that you want them to believe which is not the truth about Orania

[@EHed-kv2wb]

Whats the issue with wanting to live with people similar to you? Of course apartheid was wrong but what issue is orania causing to black south africans? Preserving your culture as long as you are not hurting anyone is not a bad thing imo. Lots of cultures have been lost due to multiculturalism.

[@gysgijsbers4202]

No this video is completely one sided, amplifying & vilifying out of context the apartheid era. Seperate development was the idea that each main South African group could govern themselves...not to enrich the white baas smoking his pipe, it was for black people to self-govern & preserve their culture. The idea in a multi-cultural consumer driven modern world is dated, but it was nowhere near as brutal as the USSR for instance. Freedom of association, freedom to practice one's culture...ORANIA is the last place I want to live as an Afrikaner, I have never been there, but if the ANC or other radical parties in political power, make it impossible to survive in "normal" South Africa, one might be forced to move there. Out of over 3 million Afrikaners in South Africa, only a drop in the ocean of 3000 reside in ORANIA. Most suburbs in the cities have over 100 000 residents of ALL cultures, including Afrikaners.

[@arnoldmeiring7710]

Undeniable - hardworking for sure

[@garyyoung6125]

Mmm native ameticans , amish all do this way

[@ellytorty]

What is very sure in Orania IS SAFETY the kids are free to play adults live in harmony That is rare these days Could it be that in years gone by long ago the idea "" THOUGH"" perhaps in obscure ways done Was it to keep all safe? in the word apart heard before Apart. keep apart the bad from good in a sense keep peopleto walk freely without hassle and all did walk freely notice not free but freely... If that is what is needed towns to keep us safe again then so be it of course in a kind of all races living there the people who are in the middle of fedup in similar type Orania in new names areas we need safety in SA urgent soon in towns called safe here

[@etienne8382]

Thank you Jorge. Found the video very informative and well done. Looking forward to your next one.

[@arnoldmeiring7710]

Yes informative video - answer ? - sounds like a good place to live if there's no crime - no matter who lives there

[@rere8219]

@arnoldmeiring7710 racist. Why would you wanna live in a place that keeps blacks away and other cultures. Olaii crime rate so you're saying only black people commit crimes that's the reason for orania keeping them out...sounds racist because you are blaming a certain group of the population for being a disrupt in the community and therefore you choose to live without them. Racism at its finest.

[@5801160052086]

Orania is no more racist than BBBBBEEEE!!!

[@jamesmccann355]

Tell a Zulu they cannot have their own home land.

[@elsabadenhorst9746]

Oranje is 100% a culture town. Blacks must learn from the boer in Oranje and buld their own Oranje

[@laurenceskinnerton73]

Afrikaners have always considered themselves as different.

[@ganasgovender375]

Living among your own people it's nothing with that besides criminality is non extant

[@adrianosousamendes2948]

The only city in South Africa that is not a s* h* is ... Orania!?! Even Cape City is now a s* h*... What is going on in SA?

[@wynandgardiner]

Leave them alone they don't need anything from other people the only way people want their town is because they ANC and the rest of the other political parties can't get the rest of South Africa to work and there's nothing wrong if a certain group doesn't want to mix with the rest of groups that is not part of their culture

[@manuhernz2745]

The Hindus that are South Africans for a few generations now seem to be doing ok, I’ve never seen a video or article about them complaining about life in South Africa.

[@discussionwithunathi]

Now here is my question. So what its racist??? So what it was born from the minds of racist people??? At least its not chaotic and poorly maintained like the so called democratic larger South Africa.

[@albertnel6232]

There's more horror going on in RSA since 1994 as in apartheid......all South Africans must open their eyes and wakeup.Things will get worse....the sighs are there.....think.

[@evelynemugeni2369]

South Africa 🇿🇦 must mix peoples in orania atherwise they will get problems like what their ancestors got in the past

[@ratbatnufftime2861]

Do they call the South African police when crimes are committed in this community???

[@duckmansam5046]

The state gives no money what so ever to the town, they sustain and do everything themselves, including security

[@ratbatnufftime2861]

@@duckmansam5046 which is exactly why the crime rate is so low, they dispense their own justice, which means they cover up certain things, especially rapes and they report nothing to the state authorities.

[@PhansiKhongoloza]

In the more than 30 years since it's establishment the police have only ever been called once. And was for a domestic dispute. There is no police station in Orania.

[@charleneconnelly4321]

very informative❤

[@africanwarlord5877]

...you could buy a town for R1m💀

[@jorgefries]

Crazy right😂

[@nedor64]

WHY NOT?

[@user-hh8yc9eb2k]

It's not a town, it's private property, more like a big farm, but it was a completely empty desert before they bought it

[@ralphmumbeck5758]

The value of a Rand in 1989 and today is in no way camparable. Back then, a million Rand was a small fortune. Today, the average house mostly costs more.

[@dirkvanrooyen3051]

I think its a great idea! People who don't like Orania are jealous of what they achieved. So to the jealous ones and racist cryers. Look in the mirror and uplift your own towns which are falling apart. It is not racist to to preserve and be who you are. Look at all the nations still living in the previous homelands with their kings and culture intact. Stop the jealousy please.

[@RSA692]

Jorge Fries. That's Dutch right? The accent is African. I'm curios. Are you from Netherland? Any relation of Jan van Riebeeck?

[@LennoxNdingaye]

It's a pure racist.

[@rere8219]

Fully agree

[@symmachus898]

A bit of a one-sided documentary, but I suppose every SA has right of opinon on the town. Thanks.

[@invisibleray6987]

Silly little place will be wiped out when the revolution comes 😂

[@MensMovementMedia]

Great content! Keep em coming🙏

[@jorgefries]

Thank you, my Soweto and Townships one might be out soon❤

[@homemail9653]

had no issues with Orania until I learnt there were black families that were forced out. I am in no way associated with any political party but incidents like these make one understand the stance that Julius Malema takes.

[@PhansiKhongoloza]

You have no idea! Let's start here? Firstly it is private property. The blacks were squatting on this private property. So let's say you buy a house or a flat? Do the previous owners ( the sellers)or their Tennant's?have the right to remain living in that property after transfer of ownership? Must you now share the house/flat with the previous owner/tennant? Get real man!

[@Goosteam]

and the past is the past . it is now a thriving town

[@homemail9653]

@Phansikhongolza not everything is a fight. If the case is as you state, you don't have to convince me, but I was made to understand that these people lived there before the land was sold. But if they were squatting after the sale, then I am 100% in agreement.

[@lawrencestoke]

White people who's ancestors moved to Africa don't want to live anywhere near Black or Brown people. Ok maybe don't move to Africa?? Flights everyday from SA to wherever their forefathers came from.

[@gysgijsbers4202]

You talk about 1991, but use footage of 1950's & 1960's of a deeply segregated South Africa, the same as America at the time. Orania was empty, when it was bought, there were no black & coloured people living there, it had been a ghost town for several years.

[@Dmservices]

No its not , the black people have thousands of kasi's like this.

[@johanschoombie6824]

No same right that all enjoys.

[@aultherizeduplessis1349]

We had to stop in Oranje on our way to Richmond from Kimberley last year. My daughter needed to use the toilet, but wasn't let to use the "INSIDE toilet ", yet MY money was good enough to be spent INSIDE that convenient store..." We quickly realized that Oranje was only a drive thru. #proudlycoloredinSAALWAYS

[@mukeloncube]

Orania is the last Chapter of Apartness.

[@pietervorster5690]

No, it is the first chapter of Afrikaner freedom.

[@mukeloncube]

@@pietervorster5690 then you’re still under the influence of Apartness, many Afrikaners are free in this country, especially people my age, we were not involved in apartness and don’t involve us in your matters or force us, you old geezers must just forget about this racism and apartness shit( both races black or white) just stop, it’s not a great example to us the youth.

[@rere8219]

​@pietervorster5690 yah what an obvious white answer from an obvious white guy...mxm Pieter nee man ou...😂😂

[@darryllyle3528]

It is freedom from racist bee and sa government which is pitch black and running everything into the ground.

[@johanopperman1949]

No here in the anc is more racim

[@SimonHirschfeld-x2l]

THERE IS NO NEED FOR ORANIA, THE SETTLERS CAN JUST GO BACK TO THEIR TRUE HOMELAND, EUROPE

[@vadimkondratiev7214]

so can the zulus, move north!

[@tommywulfric9768]

...and the black minority in the U.K. and Europe can go back to their home...Africa.

[@dirkvanrooyen3051]

You are just jealous.

[@darryllyle3528]

Spoken like a true black racist. Enjoy poverty and load shedding.

[@rere8219]

They should leave if they can't live in peace with us non blacks

[@Anna-RitaMeier]

Amazing keep up the good work people also have rights and u guys are on the right tracks viva the boers

[@maralynbunting9471]

Wow Congratulations We need more of these communities