The Oxford Tragedy Was Blamed On Video Games

The Oxford High School tragedy is already being blamed on violent video games.
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[@ConnorPugs]

The media is scummy for this one

[@aperson4721]

Fr

[@ponikoTV]

I know This is actually awful

[@lukereyes6266]

Agreed

[@ComposedSage75]

Always have been Connor

[@bloodmoonangel8925]

The media is always scummy lol, you just noticing now?

[@TailsIsDisappointed]

-School knew the student was troubled -School ignored the many signs -Parents were careless -Both did neither to prevent this "Why would video games do this?"

[@edwardrobinson5470]

Weak cop out that's why.

[@kaobiugwu435]

Why even have kids if you're not going to monitor what they do?

[@ponikoTV]

This people be like: I can't believe Mario killed my dog ​​😢

[@sovietsnake4726]

tails is disappointed with their recent decisions

[@notafurry6618]

@Soviet Snake I was gonna say that

[@demetriusadams1903]

The school is somehow worse -knew the kid was troubled -Had kids who are aware of his threats to social media -had drew guns -Publically said the thoughts in his head -and was even caught searching up ammunition on his phone The school: Nothing.

[@coolkagethe4th]

Apparently the school called the parents in for a meeting and basically said you need to get the kid help before he can return but ultimately let him go back to class because "there was no present threat at the time." The school official who let him back to class should be charged as well if the parents are being charged since they could have stopped it.

[@dream6562]

Country: mental health is an issue in this day and age People: what are you gonna do about it Country: absolutely nothing and use video games as a scapegoat

[@alexzanderroberts995]

Yes yes A misguided child was broken, beaten, and neglected by the very people that were supposed to protect and grown him. Yet it is video game's fault. Great job people Great job

[@rigleyrigley4000]

Thank you thank you for clearing it up

[@deonambrose]

Exactly! Video games had nothing to do with what happened.

[@AoiBlu4]

**insert fake clapping meme**

[@TeenWithACarrotIDK]

“We did it boys, we stopped gun violence.” “WAIT, THERE IS MORE!”

[@dumbass5818]

This is right thank u

[@j.0790]

How about we blame it on how the school was aware of the threats yet did nothing. I love how schools only get involved with things they want to. I remember yelling at someone in the hallway when I was in high school because they were getting on my nerves, and I was given 1 week of in school suspension...for yelling at someone! A kid brought a lighter to my school and was lighting it at random people in the hallway, the school knew about it, did nothing. I kid you not, someone allegedly brought a gun onto my school campus, the administration tried to downplay it, and count people absent who chose not to attend school the following day. The school administrators are just as sick as the active shooters in my opinion.

[@idontmakecontent4870]

Schools only care about money

[@gav1485]

A kid made a bomb threat at a school near me and still goes to the school, he said he had a list of people that he wanted to take out.

[@mikecampbell7950]

Reminds me of my high school, a kid said he WAS going to stab his bully, the staff and students knew and told the principal, and after the stabbing SHE DEFENDED HIM by saying it was self defense when it was obviously premeditated

[@chiviak8234]

Blame the parents!

[@goldenwolf_gamingYT]

Agreed one of my friends brought a gun to my school nd dropped it outta his bookbag causing a lockdown and a large group of police appeared in my school

[@DouggieDaDucker]

The sad thing is that they only mentioned the Christmas Parade massacre in Wisconsin once or twice when it was found that the media was responsible for the driver's intention. It hurts even more by calling it an "accident" or "car crash" saying the driver was fleeing from police when there was eyewitnesses saying the driver was idle in his car then revved up and drove in... Man I'm just sick of how the media portrays these situations to get blood of these hands...

[@DonutIgnoramus]

The person responsible for the parade massacre was not a white male. Therefore does not fit media narrative.

[@Aeric98]

GTA caused it …. Surprised media didn’t go with that.

[@userdata9511]

“Little Timmy was just a normal kid playing Basketball with his buddies.” “He was such a normal person.” Yea, so was Kira Yoshikage.

[@salt8044]

Nah, Kira was always messed up My name is Yoshikage Kira. I’m 33 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don’t smoke, but I occasionally drink. I’m in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I’m trying to explain that I’m a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn’t lose to anyone.

[@ComposedSage75]

Ah yes the age old classic of: “It’s video games fault for this” and not the fact it was choice in it’s entirety. Plus his parents were just as guilty for their role in this horrific event.

[@kaobiugwu435]

Classic for people blaming something like video games and not owning up to their own faults.

[@ComposedSage75]

@@kaobiugwu435 it’s what those who don’t believe in accountability do

[@enzo2711]

@@ComposedSage75 yeah this world just sucks

[@ComposedSage75]

@@enzo2711 the world doesn’t. The ppl in it do

[@Babywill124]

Classic blame the video games and not the parents for not knowing what they’re kids do or what they’re up to 🤧

[@traingamer2037]

Turns out even when something horrible happens that has nothing to do with videogames it'll somehow get worked to be blamed on videogames.

[@limitedperson]

True, the media is just so ridiculous on blaming this on the video games. Like bruh, it doesn't even have an effect on people.

[@silashurd3597]

It’s annoying and sad on how people have developed this dumb obsession of blaming video games for bad things

[@giohollowchannel]

Bruh. Why haven't any parent sit with their child when the kid is what game are he/she playing? But what the parent do? They dont sit by them. When kids hide their parents they dont want to show them what they playing. Then someday, A kid behavior will change their live. One day this is ever happen and you hear the news type of shooting of kids or teens? Then who is responsible for this to happen. Dont blame the games? Blame the kid and the parents.

[@the_canadianreaper]

And I thought my country was full of soft snowflakes.

[@Finalizor]

@@the_canadianreaper i thought you guys were normal friendly people

[@melatonin1371]

'Playing Fifa Doesn't make me a Soccer Star, Playing Assassin Creed doesn't make me an assassin , so playing Gta doesn't make me a criminal'

[@jaco8822]

Knowing them. They'd say playing Asassin's Creed *does* make you a real assasin.

[@thetexancrus2036]

It's good seeing the parents get held accountable for their negligence.

[@lukereyes6266]

Of course it was🤦‍♂️ it's never bullying or mental issues, or even something else, it's always about videogames🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@shrektheogre5755]

The lord is not happy

[@duantae]

I hate the media

[@lukereyes6266]

@@duantae same here

[@nnickplays9713]

@@lukereyes6266 You know I always thought it was a meme anf laughed when he 1st said it But the more I watch the news the more I actually do agree they are the enemy of the people

[@LordMegatron-qk2gz]

Lets be real, the real reason people and the media always blame video games is because they're upset that video games took over and are spreading propaganda and subliminal messages like this

[@duoblade332]

Lets play everyones favorite game! “Its the video games fault!” “Not my bad parenting!”

[@A.GAMING1]

It’s as iconic as cookies and milk

[@ComposedSage75]

It’s as iconic as PB & J

[@tjrex9458]

It's as iconic as sleeping in your uncle's home and not being able to walk properly the next day

[@Is_kitten]

The return of a great series!

[@morisco56]

Guns being legal is also one of the main causes

[@eugenics_gone_wrong1939]

To take the quote: "I am become death, destroyer of worlds" and say that this is from a video game just shows how intelligent "journalists" have become

[@cfgeneric7677]

They are smart but when they want stuff that goes along with them they are going to purposely mess it up

[@iiiiii7680]

I would like to say this, 100s of mass shootings per year. Most are gang violence because the definition of a mass shooting is 3+ victims and most are gang violence. When an actual mass shooting does happen though the media makes it seem like it’s an everyday thing that happens everywhere you walk. Most of the time shooting do happen there are things that are posted beforehand and they could be prevented.

[@Syvulpiee]

They might as well blame Saints Row for it.

[@JustaLuni]

Person: says the voices wont stop School: does nothing Parents: does nothing Politians: does nothing Video Games: are blamed for violence

[@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070]

politicians have nothing to do with it tho

[@randomrants148]

@@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070 They fund the school and why not hire people like a school cop.

[@lordstonks9561]

That's what I was thinking

[@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070]

@@randomrants148 how old are you

[@randomrants148]

@@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070 I that's a strange question to ask 21 soon to be 22.

[@acemarvel1564]

Once again, some “parents” lack the backbone to take any responsibility

[@TheLilbigBlack]

This is more accurate than you know. The parents literally had to take him home that day and this wouldve never happened.

[@acemarvel1564]

@@TheLilbigBlack I rest my case

[@thedude4840]

Some people should never have kids

[@alexie832]

Exactly. These parents are such cowards that they even abandoned him at the mercy of the justice system.

[@aaron.6923]

The phones take care of the responsibility

[@SilosEdits]

As someone who lives right next to Oxford. We were heavily affected by what happened and we still are, a lot more rules have been put in place and it just really sucks. I knew people who went to that school.. key word knew..

[@Glitchhusky9304]

*hugs*

[@SilosEdits]

@@Glitchhusky9304 Ty:)

[@vamp4732]

Ah yes, Nick Valentine, the most violent and evil of game characters.

[@AoiBlu4]

That dude from Fallout 4?

[@vamp4732]

@@AoiBlu4 Yes

[@davidedod195]

If you blame everything on video games and not on ur bad parenting or the surroundings of the kid, then you’re not ready to be a parent

[@indepth9930]

The parents who blame it on video game’s are probably just insecure because of their lack of responsibility for taking care of a child.

[@nonyabusiness2032]

Thank you

[@burningghidorah7294]

quote of the year goes to this bloke

[@lashon424]

These people don't seem to know that like, a whole billion people play video games. And Grand Theft Auto is probably one of the most popular franchises. If violent games caused violence, society would've collapsed by now.

[@Mr_GamerYT]

what concerns me is that u spelled "u" you, and spelled "your" ur.

[@fireboltchamploo7620]

I like how they want to blame video games for the issues at hand. Like how back in the day, it was rock and roll music. At another point, hip hop culture. Even comic books and anime, society seems to always have a scapegoat on speed dial to prevent people from blaming education, parents, or authorities.

[@MrGiygas1]

Back then, gangster movies were blamed for violent crimes. This was like back in the 50’s or before. If you go further back, people blamed witches and witchcraft for bad things happening.

[@alastroz4837]

I guess we didn't really evolve with time...

[@fireboltchamploo7620]

@@alastroz4837 "It's evolving, just backwards." -PewDiePie

[@MissJackietheLakester]

Because people hate accountability.

[@Jay_Bready]

Most of society hates being held accountable, this shouldn’t be a surprise to everyone at this point, can’t wait for the media and politicians blaming VR on societal issues

[@Raptor-fq4iq]

I like how people always blame stuff on video games But never blame it on very poor security

[@jacobhernandez5054]

It's 100% the parents' fault, I've been playing violent video games since I was a kid, but every single time without fail my mother would tell me time and time again; "Remember, it's just a game and not real life, it's not ok to hurt people in real life." I've never once had violent urges let alone acted out.

[@justvibingthroughlife917]

I burst out laughing when I saw the clip of them saying "Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds" was first in a video game. Robert oppenheimer said that after witnessing the first test detonation of the atomic bomb and realising what an incredibly dangerous weapon he had created.

[@M0b1us_118]

And Oppenheimer took that from the Bhagavad Gita, which is a religious text from India.

[@justvibingthroughlife917]

@@M0b1us_118 true

[@randomduck8679]

Wait until they learn that video games weren't invented until after World War 2.

[@kmerc4526]

Where did this happen?

[@justvibingthroughlife917]

@@kmerc4526 Oppenheimer said this just after witnessing the detonation of the first nuclear bomb.

[@gipsydangeramericasmonster9632]

Video games can never catch a break, huh? Convenient scapegoat for people who don’t wanna actually look at the core problem and solve it.

[@AitoJaOikeaNippeliFaktaa]

Exactly.

[@SpaceMonkeyBoi]

That's because the core problem is making money

[@stephonmanny7555]

Every time

[@averageinternettroll]

@@SpaceMonkeyBoi actually in this scenario its avoiding accountability to maintain their reputation

[@SpaceMonkeyBoi]

@@averageinternettroll of course, but I'm talking about the media's clickbait content

[@superpie64]

i love how whenever something tragic happens its like the media sees it as just another opportunity to downplay video games and nothing more than that

[@robertdeffenbaugh9004]

“Not taking care of their weapon properly” They literally bought their Son a gun as an early Christmas Present.

[@honu2980]

dude i play A LOT of violent video games and i have never had the urge to be more violent than throwing a pillow around the room. Who ever blammed it on video games are morons. Also the mom is an incredible enabler and should be punished just as much.

[@seriousserialcereal5388]

The only time I ever had violent thoughts was in middle school. And it was just edginess for the sake of edginess.

[@turtle2554]

Exactly. The parents must be made an example of

[@Bluewoofz]

Exactly, ill go run over some people in gta cause why not, but would i run over people in real life? Absolutely not

[@kuma-boom3223]

Video Games are not a morons

[@turtle2554]

@@Bluewoofz because the consequences are significantly different. We are aware about the laws and we have a conscience that tells us it's not right. Unlike in GTA you might get 1 star from the Police. Like it's so simple I don't have to explain it. Like who are the boomers that continue to spin this nonsense.

[@Aerospaced]

Yet again, people failing to raise their kids and now companies have to suffer for it

[@thepurpleemu]

Facts

[@AlexWinExperiments]

they won't suffer anything. they all just yell at the video games then stuff goes radio silent until the next tragic event. and if it would ever come to actually do something about those companies they'd get too scared to sue them in a class-action lawsuit because they're guaranteed to lose.

[@yugioh5222]

And it is bullying fault as wall what hear he was bully as will I think that f his head up do something like this

[@GameHunter4529]

Protesting need to be started for this shinanigens.

[@ceoofducks3725]

Every child deserves a parent Not every parent deserves a child

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

Violence only started when "Pong" was invented. before video games, humanity lived in complete harmony with nature and each other.

[@kaotic763]

“All kids deserve parents, but not all parents deserve kids”

[@nanomachines9872]

All games deserve kids, not all kids deserve games

[@EVT.]

In things like this, it hurts when the parents KNEW red flags then don’t actually help them, and some parents shouldn’t give some of their kids games, at least teach them human decency, teach them respect, make sure they’re ok, make sure they’re happy, cuz taking care of your child well is the most important thing for a child’s life, but no, it’s the video games cuz the parents failed to support their child properly and give love and care.

[@OmnipotentSaiyan]

@@nanomachines9872 Exactly, I knew a kid who liked Mortal Kombat so much he re-enacted the fatalities. He watched the compilation of all fatalities everyday and a acted them all out movement and all. Until one day he hurt his arm doing them and his parents took the game console and all devices, because he was using KZbin to search the game deaths again. It’s the parents that’s in charge of making sure their kid is in control of themselves enough to play the game safely. Now he is safely playing Mortal Kombat and Fnaf with no issues of re-enacting the fatalities or jumpscares. When he does, he is punished by an adult confiscating his devices and guess what? he stops doing it and apologizes. That kid is my nephew for those wondering how I have so much details about the situation.

[@nanomachines9872]

I used to be that kid, but thank penguinz0 it's wasn't that long of a phase

[@jazzratoon]

@@nanomachines9872 young kids shouldn't be playing games made for mature people. We have a rating system for reason.

[@andy.jehoshaphat]

I'd like to understand why public officials like to default to blaming video games on tragedies such as this that occur when reseach show that video games don't increase violent behaviors.

[@noodleman4555]

Because most of them simply don't video games, and therefore, don't care about the negative consequences it has on the gaming industry. That it they're old and dislike it because it's different

[@snoop05]

Politicians need votes

[@smokedout7129]

If it helps out the public then they hate it.

[@crystalwings4520]

@@snoop05 More like boomers.

[@realtimberstalker]

Its a scapegoat. Nobody wants to blame themselves for tragedies, so the look for other things. Since some video games are “violent” it’s easy to point the blame.

[@TheMythicalAura]

Thanks to driving lessons, I committed vehicular manslaughter

[@SoMuchKreamy]

I play cyberpunk constantly, I don’t recall myself clipping thru buildings on my way to work

[@raptalos9412]

Similar to how CoD was randomly brought up in the Rittenhouse trial

[@EpicNoob99]

I honestly got upset when I heard the prosecutor reaching like that

[@randomsupra5113]

Wait what?

[@wendyokoopa7048]

@@randomsupra5113 at one point in the proceedings of Kyle's trial the prosecutor had the cahones to bring up Kyle playing cod with his friend Dylan. Kyle was like "what does that have to do with anything.?"

[@randomsupra5113]

@@wendyokoopa7048 Bruh tf does that have to do with the trial!

[@wendyokoopa7048]

@@randomsupra5113 well you did ask

[@aydensutton]

My friend goes to oxford and she was one of the sweetest people I know and she’s ruined by this it’s really sad.

[@ronin2387]

That's tragic

[@milagrovelazquez9852]

@UCotpeXIvS23J5oCv0pRmEjg Why are you thinking of this? It's a serious video..

[@jackxson6109]

My friend had a really good friend there as well, and she was one of the people that died

[@aydensutton]

@@jackxson6109 I’m so sorry for your loss this is one of the most difficult things that has happened to our community and our country in a long time and seeing so many people hurt by it is heartbreaking I hope you can find some sort of peace in all this

[@jackxson6109]

@@aydensutton same to you.

[@bruhman2089]

the mother of the kid, didn't do anything about him searching for ammunition, didn't even ground him, BUT TOLD him to not get caught. BRuh

[@T3nch1]

The school was aware of the bullying(as reported by the other kids) and chose to deny it. The school was aware of the behaviors that cause concern and to ignore it. The school was aware of the threats and chose to ignore it. If the parents are to be charged for involuntary manslaughter for buying the weapon used, then the school *must also be charged* for facilitating an environment that creates kids like this. Even the nicest most normal kid can become a monster if you're pushed hard enough. Bullying is an infinitely bigger issue then the video games.

[@ViperPain141]

But action won't be taken because people don't take responsibility for their actions but instead blame something else, but why not blame something else that's popular because it gives entertainment

[@lxrdvader2021]

If the kid was really schizophrenic that would just add to it

[@r011ing_thunder6]

Even bullies have their own issues usually coming from their relationships with their parents.

[@goat1596]

@@r011ing_thunder6 yea technically that as well but if the person is a bully for no reason then they are held accountable for that but yea I agree

[@r011ing_thunder6]

@@goat1596 indeed. Only way to explain some people is that they’re evil. I don’t wanna sound like I’m siding with bullies tho btw lol bullies are bad mkay

[@Breone]

This happened 40 mins away from my high school and I believe this is not about games, this is more about how parents just can’t care for their children and keep an eye on their children smfh

[@indepth9930]

It’s irresponsibility that’s to blame for this tragedy, if the parents and administrators had been responsible, none of this would have happened.

[@commentcopbadge6665]

You "believe this is not about games"? It's a fact it's not about the video games.

[@Justanotherlemon]

Apparently the parents fled afterwards.

[@adampkalb]

It is always very troubling when Optimus is angry enough at the kid who committed a mass-shooting at his school, but he is also extra angry at the news story that misses the point of what it should say about him, by blaming the violence on video games or showing how nice he used to be just to get us all worried if our kids will turn into mass-shooters without pointing out the root cause of the problem, or just telling us how bad he really is and what punishment he deserves to get.

[@malcolmlloydandrileyproduc6451]

Ethan is a good shot

[@grey6545]

1:36 if you truly wish that then you'll get more tragedies from this same person or even others similar cases. How can you not wish them to find peace when they're clearly disturbed in their head, and this same issue is what caused them to act like this.

[@yokuutsu9097]

True..

[@kobban63]

Yeah

[@justclickontheheads9523]

"I have become death destroyer of worlds" was quoted from Oppenheimer after the first atomic bomb was dropped and was placed in the voicelines of fallout 4, but no instead of giving the true source it was the videogame that made up the quote. So true.

[@decarus834]

Yep cause the man that basically invented WMD's doesn't exist too these Drones/NPC's and i cant help but laugh at this idiocy.

[@justclickontheheads9523]

@@decarus834 ikr

[@M8tallicJi8ngshi]

@@decarus834 how tf do anyone not know who Oppenheimer is..

[@goat1596]

@@M8tallicJi8ngshi he's the dude who has to make atomic bomb right?

[@yungsquitch9802]

And that quote was taken from a hindu scripture

[@SwaggyG_2102]

People need to stop using video games as scapegoats for mass shootings. This isn't 1999. This is 2021. We should know better than this.

[@indepth9930]

That’s the thing, these newscasters aren’t any different than they were back then, they still are desperate to pin everything on video games.

[@unreal4good367]

That was the reason my parents never bought me videogames. My very first video game console is my switch lite that I have to hide from my parents. Whenever there was a video game ad of any kind. Even some super Mario ad or something my parents would drag me away from the TV afraid it would "make me violent".

[@Is_kitten]

@@unreal4good367 please move out

[@wilfridekoue1405]

@@unreal4good367 trust me just moved out and get a laptop to play emulation and/or play fan games

[@unreal4good367]

@@Is_kitten that whole dragging me away thing happened when I was about 7, it's a blurry memory

[@whoasked4588]

The reason that school shootings only happen in America is because the American school system is extremely bad and stressful which makes kids want to do this.

[@Liv1nMohawk]

Not really South Korea schools are more stressful. The problem it's easy to get guns and the need for better mental health programs or awareness

[@jaydajuvenile2631]

Most people make America look bad and make others see as if it's nothing but fast food, guns, ect.

[@spaceghost8886]

“I am become Death, destroyer of Worlds.” Is a direct quote from the Bhagavad Gita, it was later used by Oppenheimer in reference to the atomic bomb.

[@josueveguilla9069]

This is a mental health issue. Not a g word issue or a video game issue.

[@pooppoop5717]

Yeah but nobody going to take it serious yeah I agree with you but" they going to blame the video games, entertainment shows for their stupidity political ideas pretending to care about American citizens lives.

[@kuma-boom3223]

ITS PEOPLE FAULT

[@bootyclap69k]

What’s the g word?

[@kuma-boom3223]

NO MORE ITS TIME TO STOP BLAMING FOR SIT

[@jishthefish9716]

@@bootyclap69k pretty sure the g word is gun.

[@prjct_eon]

This whole thing is awkwardly surreal. It's also frustrating to hear how far News Outlets go to in order to avoid the failures of society. Case in point; Nick Valentine

[@RevampReborn]

True

[@sharne1577]

Dude when I saw that I couldn’t believe it

[@Dr.Dumptruck__YT]

This is horrible. Btw nice fallout 4

[@ThatOneDude1509]

“I am become death, destroyer of worlds” didn’t even originate from a video game, it’s a quote from J. Robert Oppenheimer.

[@Murderofbaralles5841]

This is why it’s so hard to watch the news nowadays. It’s hard to find a source that has a neutral point of view. Or that isn’t exaggerating or changing the story to milk more Content out of viewers. I can’t wait for Oppy world to go up online and fulfill your goals. Especially the one where you’re going to add lots of credible news sources.

[@akarbit3r111]

Asking the MSM to actually do research and present the ACTUAL findings is asking for WAY too much, God forbid they do that little thing called "journalism". To them, it is always the fault of everyone except the actual people responsible

[@cliffbot638]

I played GTA 5 when I was 14. I'm 22 now and I can confidently say I have never tried to car jack people or have a shootout with the police.

[@nonyabusiness2032]

This in itself is evidence. Enough to argue it in court. The more likes this gets, the more you prove them wrong. It's common sense.

[@belendomar964]

I played grand theft auto 5 when I was a 3 years old and I never in my entire lifetime have I ever tried to car jack people or commit police genocides like I did in gta.

[@turnerflorence9658]

Them saying Oppenheimers quote came from fallout made me choke on my water. 🤦‍♂️

[@Downgrade87]

I never like blaming kids for horrible actions like these. The real fault are the parents who failed to take them to therapy, parents who just let this all brew and do nothing and eventually turn into this. They failed their child.

[@danielmorgan5362]

Thank you for not naming the shooter. It’s so common for news outlets and social media accounts to place so much attention on the shooter but this is actually a really bad thing. Not only does it give the shooter the attention he probably craves but it also emboldens other potential shooters to commit a similar crime after seeing how much attention they can receive from it. I appreciate that you’re being responsible about this.

[@Mich-jk2ze]

“Videos games caused him to do it” so why are the other millions of children not doing the same?

[@West_Coast_Mainline]

4:09 that quote is from a Hindu book, it’s like the Hindu bible, forgot it’s name, BUT when the first nuclear bomb was debated in New Mexico in 1945 Oppenheimer said it

[@West_Coast_Mainline]

Also my mother’s teacher knew him

[@caroljoseph7165]

As a guy who plays tactical shooter with realistic situations like an active shooter mission, i have never thought of buying a gun and using it in a public space

[@realotiswashington]

The "I am become death" quote was made by J Robert Oppenheimer in response to the creation and testing of the nuclear bomb. How do these pencil pushers not know simple history?

[@gipsydangeramericasmonster9632]

They wanna push a narrative, not tell the whole story. So they’ll ignore history to suit their narrative.

[@seriousserialcereal5388]

Because videogame=bad Whatever suits the story better I guess.

[@r011ing_thunder6]

Is that where the kid got it from though?

[@gipsydangeramericasmonster9632]

@@r011ing_thunder6 it’s a 50/50, but It’s very probable. Considering the kid was in high school, it is likely he was learning or did learn about WW2 and oppenheimer

[@johnh.mcsaxx3637]

And before that, the quote came from the Hindu god Vishnu in a religious text. But yes, the media does not know simple history at all. They are rudderless and inept.

[@DustyTerrarion]

It's appalling indeed, this whole situation: 1 - They exploit a tragedy, juicing it for views til it goes dry. 2 - They make the shooter, the very person who took several lives and thraumatized even more kids (probably even adults), seem like a figure who's been pushed into this, almost to the point of portraying him as heroic and sane, as if being bullied justified putting bullets in people's heads. 3 - They blatantly skip over the fact every figure (except the school) didn't see anything wrong with a kid searching for ammo, especially mid-class. 4 - They refuse to blame the people who are to blame, recurring for the billionth time to publicly blame videogames, when literally any article that isn't to give traction to disproven ideas clarifies how (at most) a child can feel temporarily distressed over contents unfit for their age. Ofc, most people believe that and in turn go as far as oppressing gamers, especially children (I know too well how parents have gone as far as entirely prohibiting videogames due to these flawed beliefs, and this happens in european countries where there isn't nearly as much school violence, too, and even adults have been pestered quite often because they play videogames). TLDR: The news beat around the bushes, don't address the issue, refuse to put the blame on people, organisms, or laws that don't work, and encourage dumping the mess on what many of us young people have grown up with and currently enjoy as a hobby (videogames), causing everyone who doesn't understand videogames don't cause violence to actively interfere with that hobby, especially if you're under 18. P.S.: They also miss on the fact videogames are age rated for a good reason, which is so parents buy games fit for their children! I mean, I've seen how ESRB (which I believe still functions in the US iirc) rates games, and their work is great at the rating games recieve, being pretty concise and all. I don't know if content pictograms (such as Fear, Discrimination, or Substance usage) are used like PEGI does, but the age pictograms are very well done, to the point even a drooling imbecile should tell which game is fit for which age. These problems could have all been wiped off the board over a decade ago, but parents still seem unable to learn you don't buy an M/AO game to a ten year old if you feel concerned about their mental health. Oh, and no offence, but I tried to reason with these people all throughout my life, doing many different approaches, and they cling to their argument as if it was a lifeline, bet they wouldn't drop it even if it was a red-hot iron bar cause they're some really stubborn knuckleheads, even with their children. TLDR 2: Electric Derpaloo: If you see an inappropiate age rating for your kid, don't buy the game and don't whine if you do and it looks too violent.

[@Allustar]

Even then the school administrators are still at fault because they didn’t suspend him or anything. They didn’t address the threats and hire more security. They literally didn’t even do the bare minimum!

[@krustykrew106]

You know tldr is supposed to be short right? not longer than your orignal main message.

[@igorkopacynski8906]

Mark Foster, the front man of Foster the People, said something really good about this issue when talking about their song, Pumped Up Kicks. This is taken from the Wikipedia page for the song: "Foster said in a statement to CNN Entertainment, 'I wrote 'Pumped Up Kicks' when I began to read about the growing trend in teenage mental illness. I wanted to understand the psychology behind it because it was foreign to me. It was terrifying how mental illness among youth had skyrocketed in the last decade. I was scared to see where the pattern was headed if we didn't start changing the way we were bringing up the next generation.' In writing the song, Foster wanted to 'get inside the head of an isolated, psychotic kid' and 'bring awareness' to the issue of gun violence among youth, which he feels is an epidemic perpetuated by 'lack of family, lack of love, and isolation.' " My respect towards him skyrocketed when I heard this.

[@lihzzahrdspeed6631]

@@krustykrew106 I don’t think the last part is part of the TLDR

[@slapshotjack9806]

Problem is you need to have an id for m rated games you’re parents could just go in and buy it for their kids with no mention of having kids

[@Syvulpiee]

Next up: News Media blames Kerbal Space Program for the Space Station crashing into Earth.

[@MucepheisBustyBust]

My brother in-law when I was in my early to mid teen playing his rated M games: “just because you do something in a virtual world doesnt mean it makes you a bad person in real life. Everything you do in these games is nothing compared to what you do in real life if you harm anyone” and basically guided me. My parents where chill about me and little sis playing rated M games because they knew we wouldnt do anything to hurt anyone

[@Mr-Chick]

When will these people learn that Video Games don't automatically make you an insane person. There have been school shooters and their favorite video game was dance dance revolution!

[@excaliburknives3572]

I’m gonna suggest something crazy. Maybe instead of video games, maybe it’s the parents incompetence.

[@lightmodesupremacy7321]

woah man that's a very far stretch

[@haroldtheherald6637]

"Seize this man! He's gone insane!"

[@jaco8822]

STOP SAYING FACTUAL STATEMENTS!!!!

[@AmBuSH_Cracker]

Someone got shot in a movie theater parking lot yesterday in my community, I was in the same parking lot 2 hours before the incident.

[@apyrthegreat6708]

It seems something about him changed a lot. Like all the "normal kid" footage is recorded like 4 years prior to his crime. I think there is something else here that the media should investigate.

[@bruce9830]

Sometimes when shootings happen at schools, I think to myself: why did this happen? What was the person’s motives? How can this be prevented in our society?

[@Eshawn3108]

The society: Reason why: Video games Motive: video games Prevention: No video games

[@zred3879]

Giant signs pointing that he was dangerous Multiple social media posts Parents completely ignore his signs Media: *Must be the video games*

[@zerbutterftw]

@@mandanruger9930 no

[@_xero7584]

Honestly why did the parents even let their child BUY these "violent" video games, they go "video game bad" and proceed to still buy the newest COD game or something.

[@siroverswing6115]

As a violent video game player myself, I don't understand how people link video games to violence. I guarantee the parents watch violent movies, listen to suggestive music, etc. but we don't blame that on crime rates. I've literally been shooting aliens since 2 years old and I'm just a laxed blob 💀 Call it for what it is smh

[@VerbalVantage]

People will blame these tragedies on anything. Video Games, guns, etc. What we should really ask is why did that kid decide to do that horrible act. Obviously not video games, because then every kid these days would be doing these kinds of things. That's why we as people need to look out for each other, and parents need to check on their kids.

[@SirTravis-vn6yp]

Exactly

[@chiviak8234]

Everyone is blaming everyone else but the gun

[@crystalwings4520]

@@chiviak8234 *gun control It's no surprise to see how they could get away with that. Like, I knew guns are used to protect yourself, but they shouldn't be sold freely and misused it to do horrible things. Parents should take a responsibility for their kid's action, and I don't understand why boomers and medias always blaming it on anything else. They never learn, ya know, they never learn.

[@rileygshep7606]

@@chiviak8234 it’s the parent’s fault

[@sovietakm6869]

The parents got the gun like two days before the shooting. Imagine losing track of your brand new gun after two days.

[@DMAGAEscober]

A teacher caught the kid buying ammunition on his phone and didn’t notify the authorities? I mean that is the biggest red flag you can get regarding potential school shooters and they ignored it.

[@a-drewg1716]

I mean purchasing ammunition is not a red flag. Making constant threats about causing violence (while also browsing for ammunition) is a red flag.

[@_DMNO_]

^

[@bobbylasley2612]

Nice pfp

[@CathuluGaming]

I used to stay up late to watch my parents play COD: Black Ops: Zombies, the only thing that came out of it was a few nightmares.

[@koencagurangan3256]

Gotta love how they mention the "I am become death quote" and use Fallout 4 as the sole reference, conveniently ignoring the fact that this was said by J Robert Oppenheimer over 80 years ago during the first nuclear detonation, and over centuries ago in a religious (buddhist? Ot hindu?) Text

[@overdriveoutershaxson1837]

We might as well blame Zootopia on zoo related deaths

[@enzo2711]

That's true 😂

[@indepth9930]

It wouldn’t even surprise me if they did that, because society has done much lower.

[@cjroallos2994]

we might ban hot wheels for endorsing car crashes

[@hasanmuttaqin464]

blame the furry

[@IcyCrystalStar]

I literally wrote an APA research paper about this whole blaming video games for teen violence recently.

[@duskflames]

I've written so many papers on this topic, even my 9th grade final essay was on this topic and I argued that they didn't cause violence even though the sources that we were given stated the opposite.

[@awsomegirlpower476]

I have as well and literally the studies I looked at couldn't find a correlation between video games and violence 😭 Like I would understand (not agree!) if they said a certain genre of music or person's music since some artists (usually rappers) do glorify/brag about killing people and all that, but even they chicken out and change their tune if they go to court for it 😂

[@GhosteStoryTimes]

I love how they say he’s a normal kid for playing outside with other kids when nowadays most kids are playing games and playing with there friends via online.

[@lodle2919]

Honestly, I don't know how they got J Robert Oppenheimer's quote attributed to someone else, it's a fairly famous quote. It's like saying that "We shall fight on the beaches" is a quote from COD Vanguard and not Winston Churchill.

[@harrydifelice7693]

Makes me cringe so hard that the news cast talks about the perpetrator’s love of video games as one of the reasons he did that school shooting and completely ignores his mental state or upbringing.

[@Technocratic_Crow]

Here we go again, It's always the video game's fault

[@comfortzoneking8785]

This but unironically

[@mememachine2586]

Optimus: "we have a dark and sinister topic at hand" Also Optimus: *chill lofi music playing in the background*

[@6ixlxrd]

Funny. One of the FIRST things I learned playing GTA as a child was that committing crimes gave me stars, which eventually got me wasted.

[@jackxson6109]

I live really close to that school, so we had school cancelled on Thursday and Friday, as well as on Monday. It’s really sad. My friend had a really good friend that went there, and she was one of the people that were shot.

[@wendyokoopa7048]

Hugs big hasmat enclosed hugs.

[@russiansaltmachine8471]

Is that friend dead? She was shot, but was she shot dead?

[@jackxson6109]

@@russiansaltmachine8471 yes, she was shot dead

[@daltonlilledahl3663]

@@jackxson6109 im so sorry for your loss

[@goldensaiyan4]

@@jackxson6109 Sorry for your loss

[@rath4848]

I like how they choose to ignore the facts that he was probably going insane and instead just blame it on video games when most kids these days play them so it's easy to point it at video games

[@indepth9930]

It’s the news, they can pin anything on anything, it’s so scummy.

[@kuma-boom3223]

It's Not VIDEO GAME FAULT

[@TopShaggaTre]

Moral of the story dont bully people in school especially since its been proven they are at the most emotionally unstable stage in life

[@ultrasparc302]

Man I f@$king hate that they always Try to blame the games that we all at some point play

[@65firered]

Let's not blame the parents here or you know THE KID WHO KILLED PEOPLE, let's blame the games he played, which were also played by the people he shot...

[@a-drewg1716]

The classis has always been lets blame video games, bullying, and guns..

[@kuma-boom3223]

ITS PEOPLE FAULT

[@65firered]

@@a-drewg1716 At least I get the bullying point to an extent. Perhaps we shouldn't go as far as blame them for getting murdered, though.

[@aydensutton]

Thanks for covering this and bring attention to this it hit really close to home to me because I live close to oxford and have friends that go to oxford it’s really upsetting but thanks for bringing more awareness to this

[@wendyokoopa7048]

My heart and hugs go out to you and your friends. In wake of the current global pandemic all hugs are taking place in a hazmat suit. They are by no means still not sent straight from the heart.

[@indepth9930]

We’re any of the people who lost their lives friends of yours?

[@stevenojeda8097]

The people who deserve to be punished. The kid: started a school shooting. The parents: for not doing anything to stop or help there child. And school and principal for not taking matters into there own hands.

[@SilentButDudley]

The main issue is Mental Health. Countries like Japan have even worse Mental Health epidemics that lead to suicide. In the US we have a chain of Mass shootings because it’s become the trend, and the thing to do for infamy.

[@Breone]

Copy cat threats have been causing fear at my high school because of the shooting and we are 40 mins away from Oxford and half of my school has been showing up to school now, it’s horrible

[@R_trigger1344]

More people have been showing up?

[@seriousserialcereal5388]

When I was in high school, we had so many shooting in bomb threats. Combined, probably about 11 throughout 4 years. I genuinely surprised and glad it never happened. Not even the teachers were taken care of properly. As a loner through most of high school, I’d say I turned out pretty good. Unfortunately, bad things just happen. This whole Oxford thing could’ve and should’ve been prevented.

[@savagebear4374]

I called BS on that Inside Edition story the second I heard it. Ok here we go: 1.)This was a (possibly) disturbed and (possibly) bullied individual who did not get the help he needed. 2.)His parents should have seen the signs and got him the help he needed. 3.) His parents bought their 15 YEAR OLD SON a gun. Listen very closely: VIDEO GAMES DO NOT CAUSE VIOLENCE.

[@sethgrubb926]

I could understand buying like a 16 year old kid a rifle for hunting, but it would need to be locked away and such. A handgun isn’t for hunting so why did they get him it

[@_DMNO_]

@@sethgrubb926 It actually was locked away. He broke into his father's room to get it. I believe they got it only so that he could have some basic firearm experience, but he wanted it for much more sinister reasons than they thought.

[@badreedinedjellali1328]

pretty sure video games dose more like the opposite of teaching you violence

[@euplexia8674]

Schools and parents always say they are there for you But deny everything you go through It's just a phase Boys will be boys You'll be fine And yet blame it on video games

[@matrixpictures7799]

i love how optimus doesn't describe the shooter like the official "news" does. on tv these shooters are treated like celebrities when it comes to info

[@MrXemrox]

Oh yeah, let's ignore bullying by faculty, staff and fellow students who are beating the person down emotionally, physically and mentally, harassing them for superficial reasons, because the bullies buys into collective punishment for said reasons, maybe bullying for political reasons and condemning for them, some are complacent of the bullying. There's no excuse for what the person did, but the motivation behind it were anything besides video games... should look at other things prior to what happened other than gaming, like bullying and harassment, and others doing nothing behind it, again, no excuse, but there were ways to intervene prior. If it was video games, then the world would had destroy it long before now with nearly billions of gamers there are. I'm sure there were tragic events like this before games that were blamed on movies. Edit: let's not forget bad parenting.

[@Squeaktoymk2]

Any member of faculty or staff should be fired and banned from work in education if they helped facilitate the bullies or participated, because they clearly are not suited for teaching anyone. Failing to provide support for victims of bullying is probably one of the leading causes of horrific events like this and it could have been prevented if the kid got the help he so desperately needed. But I guess shifting the blame to Call of Duty and GTA seems more convenient than putting in work to make sure these things don't happen as often as they do.

[@NATOSUPREMACIST]

I love that your teammate in the rocket league match was named “Amyschumerisapig”

[@rathasaface]

As someone who lives in the area this affected, other schools were closed and other people were scared. My school and some others in the district received fake threats from a man in Kentucky. Video games are not the reason. I play video games a lot and I personally don't see the problem. Its just news media trying to cover something that is false just for the sake of covering it.

[@lyovadova128]

Senior at a school in the area. Praying for Oxford, hope it gets better for you guys 🙏

[@metalmythology6282]

This stuff is the biggest slap in the face to mental health instead of watching out for their children they decide to find false things to blame instead of working toward a solution