The Palestine Laboratory - A Conversation with Antony Lowenstein

[@josephodonoghue3581]

Brilliant book, just finished! Incredible investigative journalism. From a proud Aussie.

[@stephanieking4444]

I'm certainly going to read Antony Loewenstein's book. I agree with his take on the ideological closeness between Netanyahu and Modi, and between them and other far right minded leaders or groups in the world. This planet is at a very scary turning point.

[@ezzeldien5692]

Very useful and interesting conversation, thank you

[@askemilskovgaard160]

350 views and 16 likes after 2 month.. Says something about the strate of the world, and algorithms I guess. I'm very happy to give you like no. 17 and thank you both for your dedication to truth.

[@eyedownload]

All that is required to spread the truth is a effortless press of the like button! So for those too selfish of spirit FO! AND we don't want to hear you whining about all the propaganda bullshit out there because you are not helping.

[@averayugen7802]

thank you!

[@michelleryan1861]

8:02 Israel has 14 million people, it's tiny, but it's a global force.

[@michelleryan1861]

43:34 In coming decade-ish if the current govt stays in place, I don't see massive amounts of pressure on Israel to change. Don't see it from EU which is close trade partner to Israel. There's is a growing sense that many investment firms are talking about in their own circles, Palestine will become a toxic issue as well. There's the hope that is a Achilles heel is the growing Jewish diaspora. It's going to be difficult for senior leadership to go for a full blown theocracy. Pressure from BDS the ICC may get off it's arse, we can only hope.

[@michelleryan1861]

Surveillance now happening to Israeli Jews as well. Mass surveillance is always going to come back to you. Israel has sold the most surveillance tech around the world. Mexico is addicted to it. It's the critics, the activists that get surveilled. end 32:06

[@damienflinter4585]

On order...listening now in mid February 2024 it seems even more on target than an earlier interview (not sure with what outlet, a wealth of information racing through the filters). The earlier interview prompted me to order the book. Northern Ireland (indeed the whole island over centuries) served the Brutish Vampire as lab for social control, as demonstrated against Scargill's kamikaze miners on the home ground under Maggot Hatcher, and further afield. With the current ripening to deep ethical rot across the Nato-affi£iat€d WA$P g£oba£i$€d £ife $upport-$y$tem for their Nazioni$t keystone offspring endorsing open sadistic viciousness it seems downright prophetic at times.

[@michelleryan1861]

Get those records out from 1948 Israel

[@michelleryan1861]

16:52 Israel sold arms to antisemitic tegimes, housing and helping Nazi war criminals. South African appartheid ended in 1994. There's was an ideological alignment between the two. Israel was a friend to Sth Africa to the end. Israel supported Myanma committed genocide, Hinduras, Guatemala. Israel was training their forces. This state described itself as moral, born in ahead of Holocaust, within ten or fifteen years of its birth was selling arms to regimes like these. It's remarkable how few whistle blowers there have been. US supported Pinochet, but still hard to get documents, Israel stone walling, whistle blowers stonewalled. Israel don't want to acknowledge the history, many documents from 1948 Israel refuses to release.

[@michelleryan1861]

40:13 Republicans in love with Israel

[@michelleryan1861]

Most family killed in the holocaust, those that got out in 39 spread around the world. In general, wilfull ignorance about the occupationm. Arafat considered to be Hitler, Palestinians seen as terrorists, it's how many people grew up. Lived in South Sudan 2015, Jerusam 2016 to 2020, Had a recent article in Sydney Morning Herald.

[@michelleryan1861]

34:24 India and Israel not particularly good friends traditionally. This accelerated in 2014 when Modi becomes PM. Modi deeply disturbing accusations of overseeing a massive pogrom. He is creating massive Hindu ethnostate. 1.45 billion population has overtaken China which has a low birthrate. Ideological alignment They both admire eachother, not fond of Muslims or Palestinians. It's similar, so much of the West had it's head on the sand about what's happening. Pograms against Muslims, backed by the Indian state. Growing playbook similar to Israeli Zionist handbook. There's a growing surge in ethnonationalist states.

[@michelleryan1861]

40:53 Abraham Accords was always an arms deal. Not just Israeli arms but American weapons. Morocco, Bahrain, buying huge amounts of repressive technology. The percentage of Arab states buying this will grow. Much of Arab populations don't like Israel.