The Patriarch Of Khaine - 40K Theories

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@zerograv185
@zerograv185 4 жыл бұрын
"And then the genestealer turned himself into an Avatar of Khaine. Funniest shit I've ever seen."
@noahyoung9651
@noahyoung9651 4 жыл бұрын
“Look, Eldrad! I turned myself into an avatar of Khaine! I’m Avatar of Khaine RIIIIIIIICK!”
@samblackstone3400
@samblackstone3400 4 жыл бұрын
Turned myself into an avatar! I'm avatar niiiiid!
@nicholasfallbrook9810
@nicholasfallbrook9810 4 жыл бұрын
Adepta Sororitas: *Zealous Imperial Purging* Eldar: Look at those foolish humans, so tactless, so easily ruled by zealotry and emotion. Patriarch of Khaine: Hi. Eldar: *Zealous Aeldari Purging*
@mannysong1752
@mannysong1752 4 жыл бұрын
U just sum up the eldar in one sentence😂
@KitKatHexe
@KitKatHexe 4 жыл бұрын
@@mannysong1752 that was more than one sentence, that was a dialogue.
@Big_E_Soul_Fragment
@Big_E_Soul_Fragment 4 жыл бұрын
By the Golden Throne, a genestealer x Avatar of Khaine hybrid honestly sounds horrifying
@nidnoms3622
@nidnoms3622 4 жыл бұрын
More like badass!
@animedude34
@animedude34 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine a Warboss of Khaine!
@lamb_link
@lamb_link 4 жыл бұрын
Genestealer x avatar of khaine? Now that’s a fanfic I’d read! Sounds kinda hot.
@poodlescone9700
@poodlescone9700 4 жыл бұрын
Man Emperor of Mankind: Kitten, I want one!
@tobyharrison4702
@tobyharrison4702 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a match made in hell. And then thrown into the warp for good measure.
@lemonnomel9416
@lemonnomel9416 4 жыл бұрын
Man those Eldars sure get up to some weird stuff
@GumshoeClassic
@GumshoeClassic 4 жыл бұрын
An' datz how we got da pink Slaneschy boiz....girlz.... ya can't tell sumtimes.
@thatfrog05
@thatfrog05 3 жыл бұрын
Second weirdest thing the eldar have ever done
@Doomseer
@Doomseer 2 жыл бұрын
Well they're filthy xenos so of course they do..
@Le-cp9tr
@Le-cp9tr 4 жыл бұрын
I want Chaos Genestealer cults to make a come back. Considering there’s untold numbers of warp-tainted worlds with biomass and daemons everywhere, it’s bound to happen eventually.
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
They're still a thing in lore. One example is in the Genestealer Cults codex with the 'Tenebrae Cult' which fell to the worship of Nurgle.
@dinocha0s
@dinocha0s 4 жыл бұрын
Corrupted by 2 seperate entities....oohhh this gonna be good, wonder which faction they are going to be on or will they make a new faction
@Loosecannon16
@Loosecannon16 4 жыл бұрын
Genestealer cult of Malal, that would be a thing
@Le-cp9tr
@Le-cp9tr 4 жыл бұрын
Loosecannon16 As someone who plays Sons of Malice, I approve
@legiohysterius4624
@legiohysterius4624 4 жыл бұрын
@@40KTheories i got a question/ theory. Vulcan has become an orc god of friendship In if the emporer has a text to speech device. Now it seems crazy at first I mean really but I got thinking Vulcan is a sort of half work thingy mabober right? Well if if so that orc ability "where the red on goes fasta" if they believe it, might apply to Vulcan. I mean that's why the concept of intelegent orcs are terrifying. More over both orcs and Vulcan are notoriously hard to kill. together however (shutters in terror) Thirdly vulcan was exposed to waaaahhhhgggh energy in his fight with the beast which Is basically orc psycic power. Note how elf lust created slaanesh basically that. Now vulcan is probably the biggest proponent of the power of friendship in the galaxy. And his belief in friendship applies like the orc belief power. So vulcan is a partly orc primarch who can change reality is unkillable and has potential psycic powers please make a video or give me your thoughts plz thx
@adriannaranjo4397
@adriannaranjo4397 4 жыл бұрын
"The contents of this cup was heavily implied to be that of the Patriach's own genetic material" *C o n s u m e t h e c u m c h a l i c e*
@weldonwin
@weldonwin 4 жыл бұрын
They're Eldar, of course they would, they spawned Slaanesh after all, the literal God/Goddess/THING of chugging sexual fluids
@theVulcanGuy
@theVulcanGuy 4 жыл бұрын
So you're saying that this craftworld is in fact Japan?
@Astavyastataa
@Astavyastataa 4 жыл бұрын
Hol up 40k yanderedev?
@mikealpha4169
@mikealpha4169 4 жыл бұрын
Its called a semen goblet? Get it right
@LuigianoMariano
@LuigianoMariano 4 жыл бұрын
For anyone here that doesn't get the joke: www.deviantart.com/ganjababy123456789/art/consume-the-cum-chalice-828693880
@dans40khobby49
@dans40khobby49 4 жыл бұрын
As a genestealer cults player that is also building a craftworlds army, I loved this video. Keep up the good work dude.
@TheSeanoops
@TheSeanoops 4 жыл бұрын
An inquisitor has been dispatched and is on their way to your location.
@Le-cp9tr
@Le-cp9tr 4 жыл бұрын
Even the Drukhari find this abomination depraved...
@loltwest9423
@loltwest9423 4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, the Imperium is laughing its ass off while shouting "Yeah! That's how it feels! That's what it's like to get infested by genestealers!"
@poodlescone9700
@poodlescone9700 4 жыл бұрын
Drukari: I want one for the gladiatorial pits!
@Will91289
@Will91289 4 жыл бұрын
We are talking about the same race that Letterston grafted genestealer limbs into themselves, with ... Predictable results
@majordakka5743
@majordakka5743 4 жыл бұрын
So you're telling me Tyrannids put together an Eldar harem before the Emprah could?
@atsukunisumeragi1967
@atsukunisumeragi1967 4 жыл бұрын
LOL !
@Astavyastataa
@Astavyastataa 4 жыл бұрын
HERESY! …they must be purged for this insult to our Lord and Master.
@updfdrakkell143
@updfdrakkell143 4 жыл бұрын
to bad big E cant give them his flaming sword
@samblackstone3400
@samblackstone3400 4 жыл бұрын
The hivemind gets shit done
@almasyelesbayev736
@almasyelesbayev736 4 жыл бұрын
"A God named Khaine, a God of murder and death and bloodshed, only the wilfully blind could not see that this is none other than the Blood Lord himself, cloaked in one of his many guises to beguile and trick those who might otherwise repel him." -Liber Chaotic Perhaps, Khaine does not care what vessel to use. As long as blood flows.
@johnevans5706
@johnevans5706 4 жыл бұрын
I've always thought Khaine was a demigod of Khorne his helmet is a similar style to Khorne worshippers and the rune of Khaine looks like Khornes rune with an Eldar twist
@spectralimages8961
@spectralimages8961 4 жыл бұрын
It is interesting that the only 4 existing / living Eldar gods are the beings that represent the 4 chaos powers - remember each has a "postitive" aspect if you can call it that, and they all align perfectly Slaanesh - pleasure, excess, death of the eldar Khaine - War, Murder, Martial Prowess, honour - Khorne Isha - life, healing, growth, fertility "captured" by Nurgle - she is part of nurgle so to speak or vice versa Cegorach - Trickster god, changer of fates, wearer of masks - Tzeentch Some of this has been hinted it, more strongly so in the Old warhammer Old world lore before they redid the lore into more physical literal interpretations more akin to the Greek and Roman mythos. Which I kind of dislike, I felt it was done in a tone deaf awkward manner.
@leatherjacket9
@leatherjacket9 4 жыл бұрын
I dont think Khorne is the only god of war. There are many gods of war. Khorne is merely the god of war amongst the ruinous powers pantheon.
@MrJedimedic
@MrJedimedic 4 жыл бұрын
“Blood for the Blood God! Pointy Ears for the Pointy Ear...umm... Ottoman!”
@NueThunderKing
@NueThunderKing 4 жыл бұрын
The big 4 are just the most basic negative feelings/beliefs of all sentient races. Khaine is a specific part of the Eldar psyche, molded by their beliefs on war, Khorne on the other hand is the reality of war and violence, not molded by one single species view in the subject, but the very essence of the act itself. Same as the other 3, they are the raw essence of excess, entropy and change without checks, they are indeed chaos.
@dawall3732
@dawall3732 4 жыл бұрын
There's another possibility. The pointy ears God of War could simply be in "A-Hole" and accepted the alien because it was a bit more bloodthirsty than its normal worshippers.
@herpicusmc.derpington2878
@herpicusmc.derpington2878 4 жыл бұрын
I had the same thought. What if similarly to how genestealers can fall to Chaos, they chose to worship Khaine and simply proved worthy to the god? Alternatively Khaine could be desperate enough to anoint such a creature due to his dwindling presence in the physical realm
@steinarbergstl5799
@steinarbergstl5799 4 жыл бұрын
Well, let's be fair here. There's no "could simply be an A-hole" when it comes to Kaela Mensha Khaine. Big Daddy K _is_ a grade A class A-hole and has always been so. All lore about him specifies that, yes, this god is a complete and utter bastard, even by godly standards, and the Eldar would probably be the first to agree and even point this out. I mean, he did at one point want to murder all Eldar in existence. One tale of why he killed the ancient eldar hero Eldanesh was because he so enjoyed the killing in the War in Heaven and when Eldanesh didn't want to help him kill anymore after the war was over he got all insulted and murdered him. So basically Khaine is a not a nice god, and him accepting someone other than an eldar because they're more bloodthirsty and murderous really is entirely in character.
@Le-cp9tr
@Le-cp9tr 4 жыл бұрын
There’s always the possibility that the Patriarch in question is what’s known as an Oracle, or a Genestealer Patriarch devoted to a specific god of the warp.
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
Potentially yes, as Oracles are indeed often possessed by Daemons.
@themrfives
@themrfives 8 ай бұрын
Makes you wonder if it's really a patriarch of khaine or khorne. Though if the latter is true, the cult probably just thinks it's khaine because khorne doesn't give a shit about being subtle. And as long as these guys are killing shit, he's content to let their delusions persist.
@RecoveringLoLAddict
@RecoveringLoLAddict 4 жыл бұрын
Aren't Eldar supposed to be high level telepaths and all that mind link stuff? The fact this infestation happened makes me think they were into it.
@captainmurphy4948
@captainmurphy4948 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. It's basically said in the book that they agreed to it as they viewed it as better than their souls going off to feed Slaanesh. It was questioned by the Ynnari how they survived without an infinity circuit.
@NexionSE
@NexionSE 4 жыл бұрын
seeking protection behind the greath devourer might be alright if you are desperate.
@Astavyastataa
@Astavyastataa 4 жыл бұрын
Okay that is actually kind of understandable.
@masongalioth4110
@masongalioth4110 4 жыл бұрын
Captain Murphy wow, if your serious, that’s pretty disappointing that GW would write that into a book.
@bluestormpony
@bluestormpony 4 жыл бұрын
The eldar allowed the infestation to occur willingly
@PelinalWhitestrake36
@PelinalWhitestrake36 4 жыл бұрын
>Using Blank biomass to create anti-daemon poison Now you’re thinking with portals
@NueThunderKing
@NueThunderKing 4 жыл бұрын
Pelinal Whitestrake what the nids needed, an horde of Culexus grade tyranids that would put to shame the numbers of the Officio Assesinorium and the Silent Sisters.
@spacewolfforlife1034
@spacewolfforlife1034 4 жыл бұрын
Love the video watching ur channel is what got me into warhammer it's been about half a year now
@yubyubyub1960
@yubyubyub1960 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes to beat a crazy sex demon you gotta get a little freaky yourself.
@EungsuLee
@EungsuLee 4 жыл бұрын
"No, Eldars, I am the Jeanstealer." - Khaela Mensha Futhamukkin' Khaine, probably.
@lewisirwin5363
@lewisirwin5363 4 жыл бұрын
_"DJINN-STEALER!!!!!_ [BAZINGA]" - 'That Fucking Clown' Cegorach, most likely.
@weldonwin
@weldonwin 4 жыл бұрын
*(ATTACK SCREAM!!!)* - Drunken Inquisitor Lady
@Taistelukalkkuna
@Taistelukalkkuna 4 жыл бұрын
@@weldonwin - Inquisitor Adrianne Qvist, Ordo Xeno - *HICC*
@weldonwin
@weldonwin 4 жыл бұрын
@@Taistelukalkkuna "Broood Loooord Kuuuuuun..."
@EungsuLee
@EungsuLee 4 жыл бұрын
@@weldonwin *"DEEAAAARUGH"* - Swarm Lord-kun, really.
@WASDLeftClick
@WASDLeftClick 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Nobody at all: Not a soul: The Dark Mechanicus: mAkE pEnIs InTo RoBoT!!!
@julianpourdanesh3339
@julianpourdanesh3339 4 жыл бұрын
Love the work you got me into 40k and I got to experience TTS which I am thankful for
@Severin1111
@Severin1111 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 40K Theories-theory: Remleis explains his theories in the video from an in-universe perspective, yet ends them with comments and "thanks for watching" indicating that he is well aware that this is a youtube video. This indicates that Remleis transcends universes. Indeed. We do know of one type of entity that is able to do such a thing: The Chaos gods. If Remleis were to be a fifth Chaos god, he would need Sustainance in order to survive and maintain his strength. However, how could he a mere Inquisitor gain the vast number of emotions a chaos god needs to exist. Indeed, this seems especially unlikely since he would have to compete with the other four chaos gods for it. The final possibility is that Remleis utilizes a medium unknown to the other Chaos gods: A net, if you will, that links multiple consciousnesses. If he then was to utilize this internal net or internet to pose questions without a clear answer, he could easily generate vast amounts of curiosity. It appears then, that we are, indeed, a chaos cult.
@Duppyman695
@Duppyman695 4 жыл бұрын
Death to the False Emperor, all hail the God of theories !
@roguepsykerhaaker4813
@roguepsykerhaaker4813 3 жыл бұрын
Questions for the theory god. Queries for the theories. What is burning the galaxy?
@lilytheditto986
@lilytheditto986 4 жыл бұрын
Love your work Remleiz!
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@gabrielm.942
@gabrielm.942 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, genestealers didn’t realize that the Avatar of Khaine is basically the red shirts of the 40k universe. Made itself so much easier to kill.
@JimMcCray
@JimMcCray 4 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who thinks Stephanie Swan Quills' narration was much improved in this video? I sometimes obsess on strange things, one of them being how most of her prior reads dropped off in a particular and very consistent way at the end of seemingly every sentence. It got under my skin in an OCD way, and this video was a great breath of relief for me. Truly not meant backhandedly- it was really very good!
@michaelhawes1989
@michaelhawes1989 4 жыл бұрын
Videos are incredible man, I'm extremely jealous of you, I thought I'd covered pretty much every piece of lore available and you still find stuff I've never heard of, keep it going!!! :)
@nidnoms3622
@nidnoms3622 4 жыл бұрын
So essentially the Hive Mind created its own deamon/warp based entity, not only is that AWSOME AS FUCKING HELL!!! It also can imply a small theory among nids players that the Hive Mind is trying to reach a form of godlike state, i would love to see more of eldar based Genestealers. I’ll even read that book to get a better understanding myself
@PharosofLight
@PharosofLight 4 жыл бұрын
This whole story has never sat right with me since I first heard about it. Genestealer cults take over human worlds slowly, over the course of several generations which for humans might be... 200 years? Do Aeldari even reproduce that much? I know the genestealers make the person aggressively eager to procreate, but also wouldn't that just stand out like a sore thumb in a craftworld society that dulls their desires and emotions because of, y'know, Slaanesh? And no Farseers saw this coming? Also, I think it was on this channel you talked about how Aeldari procreation is... different... and actually takes like multiple encounters for some reason? There's more and I could go on but I'm ranting. It just feels like this story was conceived around the rule of cool sounding "Genestealers infest a craftworld!" without any thought as to how that really happened.
@captainmurphy4948
@captainmurphy4948 4 жыл бұрын
It is explained somewhat though. In the book they say that they fought off a large demon invasion and then the genestealers offered them a chance to join their souls to the genestealer hive rather than lose them to the warp. The craftworld was presumed lost in deep space before it mysteriously reappeared calling for help, and it was lost before soulstones and infinity circuits were cooked up. So the aeldari in their fear agreed to become a genestealer cult.
@seanread5556
@seanread5556 4 жыл бұрын
theres also the significant issue of how genestealers, that infect and manipulate a victim's genetic structure, managed to infect a giant, flaming statue...... the statue has no genetics to corrupt and even if a genestealer tried to somehow 'fuse' genetically with the statue, said statue sets on fire and has magma for blood, which im gonna guess would not do much good for the flammable genetic material. the whole thing reeks too much of deamon shenanigans, which tyranids are not despite how badly the recent nid lore seems to want them to be. i get that every codex needs traditionally to worf an avatar and blow up a craftworld, but this shit makes zero sense
@ashbannana6286
@ashbannana6286 4 жыл бұрын
We could also speculate that the Avatar of Khaine is susceptible to integrating new abilities into itself. The bloody hand of the Eldar god is the result of Khaine taking on the aspect of the reaper after its fight with the C'tan Nightbringer. Could we see possible future incarnations of an Eldar controled Avatar with a bloody rending claw hand?
@michaelhowell2326
@michaelhowell2326 4 жыл бұрын
So this makes me wonder if an infestation consumes some Chaos Cults, could one of the Hybrids/Patriarch become a demon prince, or at least demon-possesed of one of the 4 main gods?
@adeptuscole4675
@adeptuscole4675 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love these . it's always fun to go what if with the lore and it always gets you thinking .
@hughgedney3393
@hughgedney3393 2 жыл бұрын
A very extremely awesome video as always 40k Theories.
@RainbowWaffles
@RainbowWaffles 4 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video. Fine work!
@Likynis
@Likynis 4 жыл бұрын
And still won't be strong enough to avoid being papa Calgar's personal pleasure object.
@Astavyastataa
@Astavyastataa 4 жыл бұрын
“*I* , CATO SICARIUS…”
@napdragon7324
@napdragon7324 4 жыл бұрын
And now we just need a swarmlord of khaine, and then we will officially have a match for one lone, mortally wounded, and half asleep Primaris intercessor. [Sobs in Xenos]
@cadis4257
@cadis4257 4 жыл бұрын
Now when you say "Mighty Beings" you mean a complete punching bag of lava and metal right?
@angeloparavella3017
@angeloparavella3017 4 жыл бұрын
is that text to speech dark mechanicus? HOW HERETICAL!
@chrisdupuis2523
@chrisdupuis2523 4 жыл бұрын
Khaine: gets shattered into pieces Eldar: So guys we have all these pieces of the war god Kaine should we put them all back together and resurrect the only god we have that can stand toe to toe with Slaanesh and possibly even safeguard our souls? Also Eldar: Nah we'll split them up and scatter them across the galaxy occasionally summoning them into much easier to destroy fragments of Khaine that we'll call avatars...
@Matt-md5yt
@Matt-md5yt 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you covered this one again
@jakecarroll9500
@jakecarroll9500 4 жыл бұрын
Probably a dumb theory, but could it be possible for Khaine to be, "remade", by combining multiple Avatars together? And even if this was even slightly possible, could this patriarch prevent Khaine being, "reborn", or could an Eldar become the Young King to, effectively, purge the genestealer taint from the avatar? Confusing theory over 😅
@OmegaLittleBob
@OmegaLittleBob 4 жыл бұрын
The Tyranids themselves are initially hard to hate, you just see them as animals, eating, procreating etc. But damn, the more you learn about the Genestealers, the more you think, geeeeeeze maybe the Tyrandis are the biggest most insidious assholes in the universe.
@poodlescone9700
@poodlescone9700 4 жыл бұрын
According to the greatest repository of Imperial information, 1d4chan, the Aeldari on that craftworld outside the Milky Way chose Genestealer infestation over having Slanesh nom nom their souls due to not having an Infinity Circuit. That is one hell of a shitty choice.
@dragonswrath1890
@dragonswrath1890 4 жыл бұрын
7:13 most likely what happened is that the patriarch used some sort of imitation or outright produced a small shadow in the warp that would allow it to overpower the shard and keep its personality
@wikipediaintellectual7088
@wikipediaintellectual7088 4 жыл бұрын
If still baffles me that Zaisuthra wasn't able to catch on to the fact that they had a genestealer infestation when they almost NEVER have sex.
@darkranger116
@darkranger116 4 жыл бұрын
I think its a very good idea for a theory video thats for sure. It makes me think of the backstory i've written for a certain "genestealer" cult of my own. One where notable members of the infested planet regain consciousness of self, and have to work in complete secrecy to kill the Patriarch and bring down the mother ship in orbit that is sending out the signal. After destroying the ship, a large majority of the infected people died from the psychic snap. Those who survived, became the new faction. A tale of losing faith from coming to know the truth, and choosing the path of pain and torment if it means regaining control and sovereignty over your own life and flesh. Basically just describes why i run a "counts as genestealers" army with a low model count. Added in some different unit types to make up for it, they still evolve into new forms, but its now highly varied and based on the re-awakened personality of the individual. I really like the idea of running an army filled with weird looking mutants.
@jonathanredacted3245
@jonathanredacted3245 4 жыл бұрын
Real talk, that craftworld must have been extremely insecure for the infected Eldar to copulate enough times to reproduce
@TK199999
@TK199999 4 жыл бұрын
I would like it stated that the situation of Zaisuthra is some what unique. In that it left the Milky Way before Soul Stones and Infinity circuits were discovered by the Eldar. So it was the desperation of Zaisuthra to escape she who thirsts to perhaps embrace the Tyranids as acceptable alternative.
@rebeccaschroder3000
@rebeccaschroder3000 4 жыл бұрын
Now I will kitbash genestealer Eldar because of this!
@E.K939
@E.K939 4 жыл бұрын
Hey were you in the Emperor text to speech? It looks and sounded like the avatar you made for you channel or are the mecanicus tech priests just so similar looking?
@Duppyman695
@Duppyman695 4 жыл бұрын
Cyber Dongs!
@ThaviusAU
@ThaviusAU 4 жыл бұрын
I'd suggest reading Overfiend it answer most of this.
@sebastiankitts1149
@sebastiankitts1149 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think you could do a video explaining space battles. How it differs between races and ect. Love your vids BTW.
@PsychopathUltimate
@PsychopathUltimate 4 жыл бұрын
At this point, the only way the avatar of Khaine couldn't get its ass kicked is if it were an Ork.
@M.W.Zastrow
@M.W.Zastrow 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, I don't know if you've ever answered this, but when you talk about blanks, I thought the drones from hivemind are blanks or do they have a soul? And if they are will they not generated a negativ wap pressend ?
@Ajehy
@Ajehy 4 жыл бұрын
While the souls question is debatable, they certainly aren’t Blanks. Blanks aren’t just soulless, they’re black holes for psychic energy, immune to psychic powers and disrupting psykers by their very presence. Tyranid drones simply don’t have that ability... unless we get into the Shadow in the Warp, a can of worms I’m not prepared to open RN.
@cnlbenmc
@cnlbenmc 4 жыл бұрын
The idea of Geanstealers possibly being able to corrupt warp entities is horrifying.
@CyrodiilCome
@CyrodiilCome 4 жыл бұрын
Could Yvraine fix Khaine?
@andreasmuller4172
@andreasmuller4172 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe with enough warp glue.
@steinarbergstl5799
@steinarbergstl5799 4 жыл бұрын
@@andreasmuller4172 Gonna be difficult. Putting together the avatar shards is kinda like putting together the old metal Eldar Warwalkers. You think you've glued it all up good, but then a light breeze blows and it all falls to pieces instantly. :)
@halomov1
@halomov1 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing a regiment of Basilisk cant handle. ;)
@emersonwright972
@emersonwright972 4 жыл бұрын
Is this a reupload? I swear I saw this nearly a year ago
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
A remaster to correct a couple of minor mistakes and to generally expand on information (as stated in the video description :) )
@Gitskreig
@Gitskreig 4 жыл бұрын
Given how Avatars are warp entities, and warp entities are formed and influenced by thought, most likely is that the mixing of Eldar visualisation of their divinities mixed with the way genestealers impose their image upon the beliefs of their host races, creating a very literal manifestation. As those seers and the infected young king invoked the ritual, the thing that came forth was exactly what they believed it would be. As an example, many human genestealer cults worship altered images of the emperor, and I wouldn't be surprised if cults that infect chaos-worshipping populations have their own genestolen versions of the chaos gods and daemons. Were they to summon such things, the sheer pervasive nature of genestealer infection would likely have an effect as the cult's psychic influence is imposed upon the warp being at it's most vulnerable moment. Now, I'd imagine most daemons would feel that something was super wrong with this summoning and refuse to answer, but all it takes it one reckless, foolish or arrogant enough to try anyway, and bang, daemon genestealer. What would be more interesting to find would be if such infection would only last for the current incarnation, or if it would follow it back to the warp. Would that daemon be permanently altered, trying to spread it's infection across the immaterium? Would such an infection keep broadcasting to the overall swarm, leading it to dive into warp rifts in order to feast upon this endless source of psychic nourishment?
@Glaaki13
@Glaaki13 4 жыл бұрын
I once did run a Short Genestealer Dark Heresy campaign (the players where broods) and I stayed far away form demon/Genestealer hybrids :D
@spiritvdc5109
@spiritvdc5109 4 жыл бұрын
That moment when you realize that what the Aeldari did to their gods by creating Slaanesh was the metaphysical equivalent of gestating a xenomorph that then burst out, killing its host and butchered everyone around it... eugh
@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370
@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 4 жыл бұрын
Just another day for an Avatar of Khaine.
@russhurst6730
@russhurst6730 4 жыл бұрын
Being a completely new to the 40k universe fan I find myself entirely incapable of understanding nearly every comment I have read here in a sense that it may as well be me attempting to mathematically represent the process of gravity resulting in the moon's orbit of earth when I was in the 3rd grade. It all sounds interesting though. It is obvious that the Warhammer universe has some dedicated fans. The vast amount of knowledge and detail out there is really overwhelming for a newcomer.
@unbreakablelag
@unbreakablelag 4 жыл бұрын
I thought Eldar had a gene correction thing that made it impossible for genestealers to work their virus into them?
@meatybtz
@meatybtz 4 жыл бұрын
There was a book about an abandoned Eldar World where the Avatar of that world was calling out to the ORKS in a nearby system. That Avatar had been so long dormant that it's features had flowed and smoothed and lost all semblance of it being Eldar based. It is arguable that said Avatar would have become Orkoid if the Orks had succeeded and the Warlord had merged with the Avatar. It was implied that if the Orks had reached the Avatar they could and would have awakened it.
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know which book this was specifically?
@meatybtz
@meatybtz 4 жыл бұрын
@@40KTheories I need to go through my library and see. Will post here when I find it.
@meatybtz
@meatybtz 4 жыл бұрын
@@40KTheories Ok, took a while. Overfiend, third book. I had the audio drama and the ebook but I couldn't find the ebook. I remember the cool ork Land Train in the series. Anyways the Eldar talks about the fragment of Khain on the world and how the ork warlord is trying to reach it and if he did he would bond to it and become invincible.
@gregconen
@gregconen 4 жыл бұрын
Was the Avatar just reaching out to any sentient being, or is there some sort of cross-compatibility given Eldar and Orks are both creations of the Old Ones? If so, does the cross-compatibility go the other way? Could a sufficiently desperate Eldar save their soul from Slaanesh by worshiping Gork and/or Mork?
@spectolder8536
@spectolder8536 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, poor Slaanesh. Just imagine taking the widest breath your lungs can hold at birth and then living the rest of your life through laborious asthmatic gasps because your oxygen tank is caving in. No wonder she tries to make the most of every captured Eldar soul with endless torture.
@lordsolaire6202
@lordsolaire6202 4 жыл бұрын
Uh oh, look out ! Next time, even the Tau will have an Avatar of Khaine that has a weakness to plot armor !
@derekdrake8706
@derekdrake8706 4 жыл бұрын
If Khaine fought against Sslaanesh the way he fought in Dawn of War then no wonder he got owned lol.
@bluestormpony
@bluestormpony 4 жыл бұрын
Or how he fights in any story with an avatar og khaine
@seanpeacock4290
@seanpeacock4290 4 жыл бұрын
The Broodlord got hungry and ate the shard of Khaine and thus two became one.
@lp3255
@lp3255 4 жыл бұрын
And this is why Cyrus stated that the Tyranids are the most dangerous foe in the galaxy.
@connorgolden4
@connorgolden4 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what would happen khaine was stitched back together again. That would certainly be a major boost to the eldar.
@B_Cojones
@B_Cojones 4 жыл бұрын
I'm under the impression the avatar is resummonable. No idea how long the cult was operating on Zaisuthra before the primarch 9000 popped up. But could they not have just been summoning it with hybrids over and over till it took the genestealer?
@davidlister7590
@davidlister7590 4 жыл бұрын
I do not know much about the Eldar lore wise but if the shard has a physical forum it could be as simple as the GS eating the shard.
@TheMalkavianmadman
@TheMalkavianmadman 4 жыл бұрын
I would be curious as to what you think the Eldar gods where.
@nonebusiness7723
@nonebusiness7723 4 жыл бұрын
Could you clarify?
@lordalpharius5928
@lordalpharius5928 4 жыл бұрын
Both the Ordo Xenos and malleus want to know too? How does a Tyranid spawn become an Aeldari Daemon?
@jaqdraco
@jaqdraco 4 жыл бұрын
The patriarch simply showed the avatar how large the 'nid fleet was, and the avatar went "you know what these eldari don't respect me they just keep me locked up until a bully comes along they need to smack.... I wanna be on the winning side this time
@Chag69420
@Chag69420 4 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on Arch Warhammer?
@fenrir4446
@fenrir4446 4 жыл бұрын
Dont bring remileiz into this idiotic fake drama over some of context jokes in discord server made by a reddit group that have a hate boner for arch
@Maxibon2007
@Maxibon2007 4 жыл бұрын
Well “Arch” has been caught making outright racist comments on his videos, has openly worked with self described Alt Right Activists like Sargon of Arkaad etc and has a sub channel devoted to right wing politics , it’s way past claims it’s just Ironic sh*t posts or a conspiracy against him. P.S. Rem’ definitely isn’t friendly with Arch’ , plus nor are The other channels who are friends with 40k Theories , a good rule of thumb is everyone everyone on TTS, Snip & Wibb, Occilus’, AlfaBusa et all have always been quite vocal against him years even NornQueenAlexis who in 2016 did a joint video with him has denounced him and deleted her videos, before the alleged artificial hype this year. Just see their own Twitter feeds, etc.
@Astavyastataa
@Astavyastataa 4 жыл бұрын
Steve Porter oh really? Neat. Sargon’s lame, but arch sounds like a right lad. Guess ill keep up to date with him more.
@Maxibon2007
@Maxibon2007 4 жыл бұрын
Astavyastataa …and your will not be missed from this channel, bye
@Astavyastataa
@Astavyastataa 4 жыл бұрын
Steve Porter uh what lmao. When did I ever say I’m gonna stop watching these vids?
@spectreknight1352
@spectreknight1352 4 жыл бұрын
I literally read the video as "The Primarch of Khaine" lol.
@lacarthcinclair5401
@lacarthcinclair5401 4 жыл бұрын
Christ almighty. That would, in theory, be fifty kinds of metal. In practice, it would probably be a wimp.
@hanswurst3788
@hanswurst3788 4 жыл бұрын
Seems Khaine doesn't have much to say in the creation process of his Avatars... poor guy.. BtW: Is it possible that Khaine comes back sometime in the future? I mean, he is the God of War for the Aeldari and we all know: There is only War ... in 40k.
@rommdan2716
@rommdan2716 4 жыл бұрын
The Aeldari must fuse with the Mighty Tyranids, the Ultimate Life form.
@leatherjacket9
@leatherjacket9 4 жыл бұрын
Or the writer was in such a rush to write a 1/2 baked Ynnari story, that he or she didn't take into account the full depth and lore of how genestealers and daemonic creatures truly work in 40k lore. Thus, warp drive ramming a star ship into a star destroyer. Just a theory though. 🤭😁
@mattkennedy9308
@mattkennedy9308 4 жыл бұрын
Fair point but Gav Thorpe is one of the most sensible writers.
@CyrodiilCome
@CyrodiilCome 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think Old One eye is? And how is their a genestealer cult that worships him like a god?
@nidnoms3622
@nidnoms3622 4 жыл бұрын
More like a saint, Old One Eyes just a badass Carnifex that has somehow gotten off calth
@OliveR-sz3zz
@OliveR-sz3zz 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the tyranids and so genestealers have been created by rogue eldars from their own DNA. This could made them "compatible" with eldars ways...
@davidhalstead402
@davidhalstead402 4 жыл бұрын
So both Kaine and the Ctan were beoken into shards. Could this be a sign that perhaps the Ctan originated from the warp and were originally a pantheon for an ancient race? Maybe for the Old Ones or something even older?
@christophernylander6728
@christophernylander6728 4 жыл бұрын
A good theory.
@jaqdraco
@jaqdraco 4 жыл бұрын
I suppose it would take time to fully takeover the craft world, meaning some hybrids would need to hide in plain sight. Meaning they would do stuff like worship the eldar god's like the regular eldar to fit in. We all know the warp god's are created and defined by belief. So what if this avatar just got corrupted slowly over time by the mixed "belief" flowing to it As 'nids take over more and more of our galaxy, I wonder if they will evolve to a point where their race will spawn its own warp god
@MrJedimedic
@MrJedimedic 4 жыл бұрын
I really wish GW had left the genestealers separate from the tyranids. Just separate Alien-like race.
@jamesf.9079
@jamesf.9079 4 жыл бұрын
So like are craftworld eldar the Mormons of the pre slannesh eldar?
@madtrapper1312
@madtrapper1312 4 жыл бұрын
* bashed head on extermanatus button with head vigorously*
@robertlamborn7518
@robertlamborn7518 4 жыл бұрын
I have alway though that Eldar Craftworlds had bio-scanner to detect by thing like an Genestealer-infected Eldar.
@bluestormpony
@bluestormpony 4 жыл бұрын
They do. The eldar of this craftworld infected thenselves intentionally
@robertlamborn7518
@robertlamborn7518 4 жыл бұрын
@@bluestormpony Why?
@rommdan2716
@rommdan2716 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertlamborn7518 Why not? Tyranids are cute
@mattkennedy9308
@mattkennedy9308 4 жыл бұрын
@@robertlamborn7518 There was no Spirit Stones to protect their souls from Slannesh so they most likely picked Genestealers over She who Thirsts.
@jackiesantos2121
@jackiesantos2121 4 жыл бұрын
Tyranids cable up to infect warp entity interesting
@connorcmsmith4302
@connorcmsmith4302 4 жыл бұрын
well thats bloody terrifying, thats all we need a tyrannid god
@samueldoran7712
@samueldoran7712 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't you do this video a couple years ago????
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
It's a remaster to correct a couple of errors (as stated in the video description)
@StealthNinja4577
@StealthNinja4577 4 жыл бұрын
Dunno sounds to me like a cute thing to put in a book not really trying to rationalize it at the time of writing. I would think the avatar has a greater psychic presence since the hive mind in the cults isn't connected to the main one until a fleet shows up. I thought the unusual psychic signals and the farseers would prevent a cult from forming and completely taking hold of a craft world what with the future peeking and psychically super sensitive eldar.
@MagusBunnyMom
@MagusBunnyMom 4 жыл бұрын
The Eldar of Zaisuthra did not have soulstones or the Dark Eldar methods way of resisiting Slaanesh. I believe their ship disappeared and was isolated during the early stages of the empire's collapse. In their desperateness they willingly excepted the Genestealer Infestation. For the Broodmind would protect their souls.
@umbrellacorpinc1475
@umbrellacorpinc1475 4 жыл бұрын
what kind of creature could the Tyranids create if they would get their claws on the genetic material of the emperor?
@mobiusZero2
@mobiusZero2 4 жыл бұрын
Why they resemble to the cartoon show Evolution also base on the movie Evolution?
@TheTb2364
@TheTb2364 4 жыл бұрын
The idea about tyranids reverse engineering blanks is nonsense. If they could produce substances that carried pariah qualities in large quantity then why wouldn't it disrupt their own warp communication.
@mrgamerguy9104
@mrgamerguy9104 4 жыл бұрын
Did the video get deleted or what?
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
It's a remaster and updated version (correcting a couple of minor errors and generally expanding on information etc)
@EbeeDeeby
@EbeeDeeby 4 жыл бұрын
What is the origin of the Elder gods?
@ClarkesonTheMarksman
@ClarkesonTheMarksman 4 жыл бұрын
Author - Gav Thorpe. Book - Ghost Warrior.
@overlordcacius
@overlordcacius 4 жыл бұрын
Bout time tyranids got a “deamon Primarch”
@patrykpatoleta8156
@patrykpatoleta8156 4 жыл бұрын
This by far The most ridiculus part of The lore. It would be inpossible for any of this to happen due to how Eldar comunicate.
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
If you want ridiculous, how about the fact that within the Imperium load-bearing walls are considered heretical?
@lucasstr5653
@lucasstr5653 4 жыл бұрын
technicallly,, the flesh of demons is still flesh. still organic. yet, I do not think Khaine manifest himself organically, since it's skin is replaced by metal
@Knights_Oath
@Knights_Oath 3 жыл бұрын
I though part the reason the Eldar are a dying race is how difficult it is for them to reproduce. Does genestesler taint increase fertility? Also wouldn't hyper sexual behavior be a huge red flag for Craftworlders?
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