THE PENGUIN Episode 8 Ending Explained

[@BrainPilot]

The sad reality is, I grew to trust Oz just like Vic did and my heart is now broken... what an ending! Let me know your thoughts on The Penguin finale in the comments

[@Granger-e6i]

Dum dum

[@OsirisEyeOpticalSociety]

Was right there, I was inested in his success after the speech Oz & Falcone had in the the first episode opening scene. It truly broke my heart as I had imagined him & Victor helping the forgotten people to build up some low end neighborhood respect & admiration to the point nobody would turn Oz in.... but then he was just a selfish POS.

[@metalmacabre9991]

Im getting a kick out of people calling him a hero, and Batman the villain. Lol he killed his brothers, he set-up his mom to get I'll by killing them, then kills the kid that saved his life.

[@anonamouse.p4115]

I was so traumatised by OZ choking the life out of VIC that despite his pleas drove me to MATT REEVES Instagram, which MATT REEVES probably does not even glance at, silly me. PENGUIN Season One has been nearly faultless. MATT REEVES' Oswald Cobb can still become THE PENGUIN of lore yet Still have VICTOR AQUILAR as the catalytic character he has been, onwards to Season Two.

[@danielgiovanniello7217]

Brother, were you watching the show? He's one of the slimiest pieces of sh*t in Gotham City!

[@johnthebomb6065]

Sofia wanted to be free. Oz locked her up. Francis wanted to die. Oz kept her alive. Victor wanted to live. Oz killed him.

[@CalixLuv]

He's really the devil 😭

[@amoghthorave3385]

The last two episodes really showed his true character

[@JohnnyJustice777]

It's not that Victor wanted to live, he wanted to be somebody. But Oz killed him and dropped his ID in a lake. So he effectively became nobody, just another lost soul that died in that city

[@Utilizador-gs3lx]

And he did all that and still tinks he's the one the right and the victim

[@buttermilk5364]

Well he still has his teeth so they will be able to identify him. /s ​@@JohnnyJustice777

[@factsworld-g9l]

I change my mind . Batman . Get his ass .

[@Batman-dx1cz]

FR 😂

[@degenratex4834]

I hope Batman beats the breaks off of his ass for what he did to Vic 😡

[@fxcknaesean]

Man fr I hope he beats his ass 😢rip the homie vic.

[@TayRich93]

Lmao

[@darrenkey207]

I never was fooled into liking him. And I hope Batman breaks his collarbone

[@trizzo343]

Damn, this last episode truly revealed just how awful person Oz is. He really doesnt give a shit about anyone other than himself. Killing Vic was just unforgivable and made me really hate the character. Cherry on top was him breaking the promise he made to his mother about helping her die once she's totally gone mentally, instead he keeps her alive, kind of like a prisoner, for his own selfish reasons. He is a true psychopath. Well done Colin Farrell, amazing performance

[@danielgiovanniello7217]

I really loved that about the final episode. It's the last nail in the coffin to show that the "promise" he'd made his mother as a child was really for himself. He didn't keep his promise to her at all.

[@SilverPlayer2002]

He’s getting nominated for an Emmy, that’s for sure

[@jonfreeman9682]

This is the moment Oz becomes 🐧 and is the perfect ending leading to Batman. Adding another season would diminish the greatness of Oz.

[@dirtyunclehubert]

hes a sociopath. hes still able to express and feel deep emotions, he has his tantrums and cries. psychopaths like anton chigurh just are moving from goal to goal without any remorse.

[@shepardice3775]

@@jonfreeman9682 This takes place after The Batman, not before. Penguin wasn't the full Penguin yet in the first movie

[@sunsin1592]

It is nice to see writers having the guts to make villains truly villainous and not just "misunderstood."

[@ryecatcher25]

Only female villains are allowed to be "misunderstood" hence movies like wicked and the 101 dalmations lady rise to being a fashion designer who is just "misunderstood" . Like this lady wants to kill puppies to make a coat. Compare that with semi sympathetic movies like joker where the media claims "THESE MOVIES ARE DANGEROUS".

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah true! They doubled down on it and it made great viewing

[@josemartinez-lk4vh]

Finally a show that remembers what a villain is. Hope Disney took notes because Loki, maleficient, boba fett etc.. definitely did not feel like villains

[@basicsimp8798]

​@@ryecatcher25You need to get out of your antisjws bubble. Men get that treatment all the time. Look at Thanos, Zemo, Ikaris from thr MCU alone. Zuko from TLA, Plastic Man in DC, and so many other. 😂

[@williambray5723]

@@basicsimp8798lol right?? Thanos was a perfect example 🤣

[@marcosm100]

Victor: "You're like family to me 😢" Oz remembering what he does with his family members 💀

[@walterswanson3867]

Oz probably seen family as a liability and didn't want any. He was almost killed by Sophia using his mother to get to him. Also we had just seen all the underlings kill their bosses to gain power. Victor was becoming stronger himself. Oz may have felt that one day Victor may become a threat himself and he'd get rid of that possibility now.

[@PityOnlyFools]

@@walterswanson3867 When Oz was recounting how Vic had seen everything, I knew it was the end for him. Vic knew too much. Classic mobster trope.

[@FreddieMercurytheSharkWrestler]

@@PityOnlyFools Yeah but when you have no one you can trust then there’s no one you can rely on. Then again, Penguin is a shitbag so this tracks. This show reminds you you’re watching one of the slimiest goons as the protagonist.

[@dabourashed]

I mean the city councilman revealed that they were gonna indict him

[@torriebrown9607]

Right

[@CorgiFanWoof]

I feel dumb because I really didn't expect him to kill Vic. Colin was right, Oz is impossible to like at the end of the series. It's like we all somehow forgot he's a supervillain for the first seven episodes.

[@torriebrown9607]

I didn't see it coming. SMDH

[@BrainPilot]

To think I was rooting for Oz at points throughout this as well. This show really messed with my head on how to feel about Oz!

[@jonfreeman9682]

That came out of nowhere. It was such a heartfelt moment having a drink together and telling 🐧 you're like family. You would think they would become partners in crime.

[@williammora88]

I still like him as a villain lol.

[@arcanewarrior863]

I think you just gotta look at the series objectively rather than his perspective that they try to portray. First ep he shoots someone for laughing at him. Second ep sides with both the falcones and maronis to double cross em both Third ep he sides with and betrays Sofia Fourth ep we learn that he sold Sofia out to get a promotion from driver Sixth ep he kills two people and laughs at it Seventh we literally see him indirectly kills his brothers as a child (this point I 100 per cent saw him as the villain of the series, more that Sofia or Sal) Eighth he can’t even bring himself to admit the truth about what he did as a child. I know vic wasn’t gonna survive in the slightest in the final scene, thought it would be by shooting though

[@robertobuenafe]

After rewatching that scene, I now realize why Penguin said "fuck" immediately after Vic mentioned family

[@arcanewarrior863]

I knew immediately that vic was a goner there

[@patb00y]

I noticed that too 🤦🏽‍♂

[@miklovv]

Never seen the show and I could tell he died right there.

[@DarkFactory]

"damn, now I have to kill you. it's a shame because you were very useful"

[@ombeth]

@@arcanewarrior863 I knew the moment he told Oz's mother her son went to go pay the electric bill and Oz snaps, "You're making it worse!" She was actually becoming happy until Oz responded. He didn't like Vic having his mother's approval and attention. Only he was allowed to do that. Same envy that killed his brothers killed Vic.

[@alexpatterson4286]

2011 - "Why did Gus kill Victor?" 2024 - "Why did Oz kill Victor?"

[@aymaanrashid2033]

lol that’s an interesting pattern

[@ayandey137]

Wow!

[@jaimeherber8353]

🤣🤣🤣💯👍

[@demontime777]

I just find it funny after all the events that happened they finally lit up the bat signal 😭

[@Randomaccount9470]

Like Bro, it's so dang late 💀🙆🏾‍♂️

[@27nubby]

Had to find a bulb !

[@joshbojos9371]

Bruce was on vacation after that whole riddler escapade 😂😂a man needs a break too

[@tamasposta6178]

I think it's more about that the events happened between gangs and Batman couldn't have done justice because everyone of them are gangsters. I think the Penguin just went too far, got hold of the Gotham gangs and this is why they're like "Yeah we need Batman now"

[@DevinGunning-kk8vs]

@@tamasposta6178too much thinking my dude

[@momo-yd1zm]

I know we asked for a dark Gotham but dam this is no joke. Rip ma boy Vic. We need more from Sofia

[@BrainPilot]

We went to levels of darkness that none of us expected!

[@thee_morpheus]

A rare girl boss that is likable and not cringy

[@anabolicchicken4115]

Man left his brothers for dead as a kid and you are all acting surprised when he kills a kid he met a few weeks ago.

[@the-ironclad]

It’s in character. When I was watching the episodes I’m like penguin would never have an apprentice, it’s so out of character but then at the end, he killed him and I’m like “oh there he is, there’s the penguin I know”

[@zzirfamo24]

The same kid who was helping his mom out and knew everything abt him?? The same kid that saved Oz like 3 times and if it wasn’t for that he’d be dead?? Yea kinda surprised lmfao

[@nobutur]

Yeah, you saw it coming 👌

[@anabolicchicken4115]

@@zzirfamo24 Sure, but I just can't get over the fact he let his brothers die. Imagine all of the memories they had together, years worth. He was a child sure, but he KNEW they were going to die, yet having his mother for himself was more important to him. His brothers also seemed to treat him nice and as an equal. That's peak psychopathy, at that point you're capable of ANYTHING.

[@nont18411]

@@zzirfamo24 Yeah, but for Oz, Vic was just “something in his way” to power

[@ericjefferson6249]

I was struck by how much Eve physically resembles a younger Frances, especially when she was dancing with Oz in his mom’s dress. She clearly understood the assignment, to feed his ego and his Oedipal complex. A moment which was just as disturbing to me as him unaliving Vic.

[@pinkaholicphebotz1253]

Exactly, I then remembered the clip where Sofia and Eve had a talk about what Eve does and her relationship with Oz. This is it then. She can get paid by role-playing ehehhee

[@marcellorodrigues7795]

Shows just how Sick Oz Trillion is. Chefs Kiss ending

[@marcellorodrigues7795]

*truly

[@kdathletics9092]

What’s crazy is that Francis never showed Oz attention. He just wanted his mother attention. However, he wanted it all to himself. This made him sick where he hires a woman to role play his mother -God dam! Sick supervillain

[@MuscleBound_withDre]

Of mice and men. He killed his friend. The friend who was “special.” Man I cried. Vic and Lennie deserved better

[@Denzel_Washington]

I really thought Vic would become Victor Zsaz… who knows maybe he comes back he survives.

[@JacobM.S]

@@Denzel_Washington bro died

[@danielgiovanniello7217]

@@Denzel_Washington That would be a really silly twist tbh. I'm glad they didn't do that.

[@samlagos2192]

@@Denzel_Washingtonbad level of writing if they have him come back. Would be kinda lame

[@JohnnyJustice777]

​@@samlagos2192exactly why i hate the Lazarus pit.

[@KevinMcLaughlin-r6o]

I think what everyone is forgetting is the Penguin character has only ever been in it for himself and himself only. With his mother now dead he has been left unburdened by emotional attachments. You could tell he was real torn up that he had to kill Victor but in his mind it was shedding himself of weakness and so Victor couldn't be used against him by his enemies. Oz is in it for Oz, anything or anyone else are just a means to an end.

[@walterswanson3867]

Also after all the underlings killed their bosses to gain power, Oz may have worried Vic could someday do that to him so he'd get rid of that possibility now.

[@the-ironclad]

Yeah and he is known to play the long game and act like he is friends with you only to snake them afterwards. Thats exactly how he rose to power. In the beginning, I was thinking there’s no way he would have an apprentice but then it all made sense at the end, he was just a pawn.

[@KevinMcLaughlin-r6o]

@the-ironclad well said man. Someone clearly has done their homework.

[@Xmaster-bh8wb]

Trust me, we wish his mother was dead already, but someone just couldn’t keep their promise and she’s currently suffering internally as she could do nothing but wait motionless for her body to give out and put her out of her misery.

[@KevinMcLaughlin-r6o]

@@Xmaster-bh8wb really turning Oz into Norman Bates. 🤣

[@void1464]

I thought Walter White was bad in Breaking Bad but damn Oz is on another level of psychopathy

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah Oz really is next level!

[@void1464]

@@BrainPilot ( Big Breaking Bad spoilers here). Walt offered his fortune to save Hank and was devastated when he died,Oz would have killed Hank at the first opportunity

[@pedroj3432]

Bro what? 😂 Jesus man, Walt is a super chill guy that gets dragged deeper and deeper into more bs because of other people's incompetence, mainly Pinkman. Please don't compare them lol

[@axelfransson751]

Walter is nowhere near Oz lol they're not even comparable in evilness

[@the-ironclad]

Walter White went from a neutered guy deprived of all masculinity to a sadistic egomaniac but oz was always bad. He is way too close and obsessed with his mother, some weird incest kink. Even killed his own brothers so he can get all the attention. That was his motivation to snake and kill his way to the top

[@ryano6094]

It’s so sad cause Vic initially was loyal cause he was a prisoner. Then Vic decided against leaving with his girlfriend and saved Oz’s life 😢

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah he had a way out at one point!

[@JacianGonzalez]

Vic deserved better my boy didn’t have to go out like that😢😢

[@BrainPilot]

It was heartbreaking!

[@chrislaurent1137]

Sadly, that’s how the Life usually turns out.

[@trentonmalone6058]

He definitely not dead

[@testval]

@@chrislaurent1137 🤣🤣 relax bro, you are probably living in the suburbs chilling with chicken nuggies in the air fryer

[@jacobclay2826]

@@trentonmalone6058 facts haha!! I think hes a unique zsasz take Hell be back for sure my man didnt die from a 15 second air loss.

[@6ixtoshoots816]

As soon as i saw them sitting overlooking water, of mice and men came to mind and i knew Vic’s fate was sealed.

[@BrainPilot]

That's a good comparison!

[@Ab-vb4in]

Man oz really couldn’t have just told vic to just leave town or something😢

[@nuneza1987]

Towards the end Vic became too much like oz, he would never leave the game willfully.

[@joevines3428]

No lol 😂​@@nuneza1987

[@torriebrown9607]

Agree

[@Daudge]

He knew too much and penguin wanted to get clean and start over doing things alone without anyone knowing his crimes.

[@NoName-bk3su]

I think he took notes from bosses in the episode that got whacked by their number 2, and didnt want that to happen to him.

[@79darrinsmith]

The Penguin always planned to kill Vic. He literally tells him in episode one. “It’s might be useful to keep you around…. FOR NOW.”

[@BrainPilot]

Good spot!

[@79darrinsmith]

@@BrainPilot we can see Penguin has a history of using people like pawns in his game of chess. Then once they’ve served their purpose he gets rid of them. I’m sure he genuinely liked Vic as well from spending time with him. But the Penguin stayed the course with his original plan of killing him to begin with.

[@DialloMoore503]

I don’t think so. He literally let Vic go to the bus station to leave with his girlfriend. “You think I’m holding you hostage?” But Vic came back.

[@Gos1234567]

@@DialloMoore503yea I think it was the line from his mother about how she hated him that caused him to kill Bic when he said “you’re family to Me “…… families are just trouble in his eyes now

[@r3dr4te963]

@@DialloMoore503 THEN he realize Vic become liability for him.

[@tuffgong2568]

"One cannot be betrayed if one has no people." "Kobayahsi."

[@BOZ_11]

"One cannot build anything of splendour, without the collaboration of many" - Me

[@NazThReman]

I don't think Oz was gonna kill Vic initially but when Vic said he viewed him as family Oz realized Vic was weak. Penguin didn't need a brother he needed a soldier or a general. Vic didn't have traits that Oz needed to move forward in ruling Gotham. If you notice before he threw Vic's driver's license in the water he stared at it for a couple of seconds, he cared about Vic, he wanted to remember Vic's name the kid who helped him get to power.

[@ОлесяКвасова-м8в]

Vic wasn't weak. He risked his live, saved and helped Oz when he was at the bottom, it isn't something weak person will do. I think in the future Vic would be ready to defend Oz from Batman or any other enemy, because of his loyalty to him. Vic's mistake was to believe in the wrong person.

[@marcosm100]

Those comparisons that HBO made between the Penguin and Tony Soprano and Vic and Christopher were not for nothing. Vic, like Chris, has the chance to leave with his girlfriend and at the last minute changes his mind Both are suffocated to death by the men who swore loyalty

[@kitb9504]

I was just gonna say this scene screamed Tony killing Chrissy vibes.

[@DillsyYourDaddy67]

Chris gave up his soul for Tony, gave up on all his hopes and dreams and even the love of his life for Tony. The same way Vic gave up the chance at a new life and being with the girl he loved, for a chance at being a gangster with Penguin. Very good mirror.

[@robtothejuice]

“I’ll never pass a drug test Oz”

[@anabolicchicken4115]

Oz is arguably even worse. Christopher was a legit psychopath too, and he gives Tony a load of reasons to kill him beforehand. Not justifying Tony but Christopher dies in a few months if anyone but Tony is the boss. Vic literally saved Oz's life, TWICE.

[@marcosm100]

@@anabolicchicken4115 I agree, Chris was also a crazy psychopath who killed innocent people, my comparison with Vic is due to the fact that both ended up trusting fat, bald and selfish people too much. Although even Toni shows some lapses of humanity

[@yanaazvolinsky738]

I knew the second Oz told Vic that he couldn’t have done this without him and that he’s seen him at his most vulnerable that he was a goner 😢 The “family” line was what prompted Oz to strangle him, but it was just a part of the equation IMO. Vic’s death has been foreshadowed so much this season, especially when you consider the parallels between Oz betraying Sophia while he was her driver, and Vic being Oz’s driver. Oz wants to be at the top, just him - Vic knows too much and we all know how Oz hates anyone seeing him in a “weak” or “vulnerable” state. Vic was a liability and Oz wasn’t about to share the top with anyone, especially not after seeing how Vic rallied the second lieutenants to get rid of their bosses. It didn’t make the scene any less heartbreaking though - RIP Vic ❤ I’m also so happy that Sophia didn’t die - going back to Arkham is a worse punishment than death for her, but a team up with her and Selena Kyle? CANNOT WAIT! It definitely makes sense she’d reach out to her after Eve let the working girls know she’s not the hangman, just the fall guy for Carmines m-rders. And the Batman symbol in that final shot….chefs kiss. If The Penguin isn’t drowning in emmys after this I will scream 🤣

[@effers6854]

I don't think that Oz is keeping his mother alive because he truly loves her, instead it's a punishment. She is in an empty room sealed away in a tower.

[@BrainPilot]

Do you think punishment? If so, that makes Oz even more sinister!

[@effers6854]

I do! Because it fits the pattern of Oz's behavior whenever someone says something verbally cutting to him. In fact locking away problems seems to be a pattern for Oz. We learn that he did it to Sophia by snitching and not telling the entire truth about the situation- Sophia had actually slapped the reporter and said to stay away from her family. Then he lies and pins his crimes on her. We see how Eve is locked into service at the end trapped in the facade of Oz's mother while knowing that Oz hid the killer of her girls from her while making the same promises of success. Lastly, Oz lied to his Mom regarding his brothers, he lied about her existing and hid her out of the city and finally, now she's hid in an empty barren room of a penthouse. Oh! He also hid Vic's identity from being found because he chucked his id in the river 😭😭😭

[@davecrowson448]

Maybe, but he could be hoping she comes out of it someday and tells him what he needs to hear. Selfish reason to keep her alive. Even had his girlfriend dressed like her and telling him how proud she was of him. Sick, man

[@bintangun8347]

The room is empty because they just bought it lol, you can see many items are still covered in white cloth

[@amoghthorave3385]

​@@bintangun8347She made him promise to kill her if she gets some sorta disability and isn't able to sustain herself. Oz is taking his revenge on her.

[@katierose9641]

It is truly rare to find a loyal, gold hearted person like Vic. The actor did a wonderful job. Im a lot like Vic and I can honestly say I've never met anyone worthy of the loyalty he showed Oz. I was so disappointed in the ending. It's okay to be a good person. The underground world punishes good people. Remember that.

[@thaistomp]

@@katierose9641 Fax. Victor’s character represents the good, and he would’ve never turned on Oz because he saw him as a father figure. That’s why his story is so tragic.

[@psazani]

They couldn't have Vic in Batman 2 so they killed him off. He left Sofia alive because she's in the Batman 2.

[@coryt93]

He didn’t have to die to not be in Batman 2. There was more to it than just that.

[@jdtreharne]

​@@coryt93(I think he was joking)

[@travelinlight1141]

For me this series writing ranks right up there with the Wire, True Detective S1, and Shogun.

[@BrainPilot]

100%. Top shelf television

[@Bettypeter-gm8ny]

It’s really good but no way near as good as the wire or breaking bad

[@cole2669]

@@Bettypeter-gm8nyfamily guy reference?

[@robtothejuice]

Watch Chernobyl as well. Flawless limited series imo.

[@Slinky82]

Nothing on The Wire. Absolutely nothing at all.

[@sebastianstirring6544]

Instantly lost all for Oswald, Batman bout to beat the shit outta you😂

[@nialllappin4159]

Made me like him more no loose ends

[@cosmasrealestateconsultant]

​@nialllappin4159 what Oz is a psychopath he only kept his mother around because it makes him think he cares

[@fabiofernandes9122]

glad that they actually portrayed penguin has an actual villain. compared to the other garbage villain movies where they portrayed them has a antiheroes or straight up superheroes.

[@danielgiovanniello7217]

Before this, I feel Oswald was kind of a nothing member of Batman's rogues gallery. Like, he was meant to represent Bruce Wayne's immense wealth, but he's always just kind of been there. He's iconic sure, but he's always lacked substance. Two-Face has the constant struggle between his two halves, Mr. Freeze is very sympathetic and ultimately tries to do as little harm as possible, The Joker (as burnt out as I've gotten of him in the comics) is the ultimate antithesis of The Bat, Clayface makes for one of the most interesting tragic villains in the Batman Mythos... but then there's Oswald. He's just a funny rich guy who looks like a Penguin. This show managed to make him stand on his own as the single most vile member of the Rogue's Gallery. Sure, Zsasz and Pyg are more disturbing on a surface level, but there's something so sinister about Oz.

[@Misanthrope4Israel]

what movie have done that?

[@DialloMoore503]

@@danielgiovanniello7217 Catwoman is also a villain. Don’t forget.

[@fabiofernandes9122]

@@Misanthrope4Israel venom, kraven the hunter, black adam etc.

[@danielgiovanniello7217]

@@DialloMoore503 I mean yeah, but she steals from museums and rich people. I'm not exactly losing sleep over that.

[@mrbushido56]

Oz, now theres nothing to stand in my way. Batman" im back bitches"

[@HenzoW-cf3mh]

The only way to describe this series: “It was perfect… perfect. Everything down to the last minuet detail”. I loved every character in this series and every single person on set came in and did their jobs immaculately. The writers, actors, camera people, and everyone in between all deserve raises. I assumed Vic would die, but the amount of false confidence I had after seeing them win made me so unprepared for what was to come.

[@kaisermob5753]

its amazing how this show gives you a 50-50 feeling about siding with oz and at the same time making you forget its MF PENGUIN himself, THERES NO ANTI HERO HERE ONLY A VILLAIN also vic slowly becoming the newbie penguin and right hand man of a mob leader, and the little spoiler with the uprising of right hand man killing their boss gives you an idea of the end of victor aguilar, and just like what francis said "HES ALWAYS TWO STEPS AHEAD" oz dont want to get FALCONED so he killed vic

[@Randomaccount9470]

Bruh when they lit up the bat signal after all that's happened I was like "really NXGGA!? Y'all only thought of this now? 💀"

[@societiii]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@societiii]

I thought damn so the explosion in East Gotham wasnt good enough 😂😂

[@thitran1362]

Maybe they lit it multiple times lol. Batman didnt pick up the phones lol. Probably overslept on the injuries lmao.

[@Unbound_Soul7]

I think it was to show us the beginning of season 2, cuz I was thinking the same like why now…

[@CaptPicard81]

They telegraphed Victor’s fate throughout the series with all of Oz’s backstabbing. His defining feature is that he uses other people, they are just a means to an end. If Victor became inconvenient to Oz his days were numbered

[@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi]

Vic sealed his fate the moment he didnt go to California with his girlfriend. His greed, ambition and need to "Be somebody" was his undoing. He willingly chose to be loyal to a psychopath and he paid the price. Hard to feel sorry for someone who dug their own grave. The one I feel sorry for is Janice. She knew Oz was evil but couldn't let him die cause he was all she had left. Now she has to spend the rest of her days a prisoner of Oz's in that "penthouse in the sky". Tragic

[@Ab-vb4in]

Fr man I feel so bad for ozs mom. Oz never fulfilled the promise he made to her

[@deathmetalinyourface]

What you seem to forget is Oz manipulated Vic from the start. He got in his head. Made him think he could be a somebody. Oz took advantage of Vic's nature and made him loyal to him, and when Oz didn't need Vic anymore, he got tossed aside.

[@daveagard1884]

@@deathmetalinyourface”if I’m looking for loyalty, I look for guys who need a father”

[@sugah_redd]

I don’t think Vic would have gotten away from Oz that easily. I think deep down Vic knew that too

[@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi]

@sugah_redd Oz wasnt gonna chase him down in Cali. He was at the bus station and had his chance and he blew it. His fault

[@Adnan_Atzo]

I understand why he killed Vic...but dayuuum....we all loved that kiddo. Vengeance for Vic

[@000TQ000]

I can't get over it... I suspected from the start but vic was such a loyal friend I hoped he wouldn't kill him . Great character 😢😅

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah it was such a surprise!

[@rodneynoriel1528]

Oz was Sofia’s driver. It was the way he climbed his way to the top. He cannot risk Vic doing the same to him.

[@nm5612]

My wife was screaming during that final scene like begging the penguin to stop. That’s when you know the series has done a good job and you’re invested into the characters

[@john.f.remedy.237]

After they showed what Oz did to his bros I thought it, but as soon as Vic said they were like family I knew he wasn’t gonna make it out of that spot…

[@BrainPilot]

It was such a sad moment!

[@redt8311]

On one hand I feel like after all the stuff Vic did for Oz he should’ve at least given him 1 chance to live. Give Vic enough money to go start a new life somewhere else far away & tell him to leave Gotham never come back. If Vic is found to still be hanging around Gotham longer than few days after being told to leave well…. But on the other hand, Vic knows too much not in the sense that he’s a loudmouth issue, I think he could keep his mouth shut and live quietly. But more the fact that all the info Vic does know if someone determined enough wanted to hunt him down & torture that info out of him that could very well lead to severely hurting or destroyed Oz’s new empire.

[@ziggy8253]

The frog agrees, but the scorpion stings the frog halfway across the river. When the frog asks why, the scorpion says, "I am sorry, but I couldn't help myself. It's my character"

[@BadF16Boy]

Oz was always selfish and crazy from the beginning, but we ignored to see it because we didn't know the whole story. But holy shit after seeing him dance with Eve at the end and Calling her Mom and asking her to say she's proud of him!! the penguin should be where Sofia ended up lol, He's a lunatic.

[@NukeSonyz]

I honestly was expecting him to push her through the window lol

[@BornToBeFamed]

Explains why he kept her around, she was nothing but a paid fantasy.,

[@michaelcunnigham787]

Vic's reminded me about the Marco Polo series, when the naming protagonist, question's Kublai Khan "Am I a guest or a prisoner (hostage)?"

[@nothere9587]

I literally couldn't move for 5 minutes when it ended...I was in shock, disgusted and slightly traumatised. What did I just watch? I didn't know they still made shows like this anymore. Honestly, hands down the best opening season of a show since Game of Thrones season 1. I am not okay, 😅. Cristin Milioti, Colin Farrell....Sir, Mam...take a bow 👏👏👏

[@David-l6c3w]

Many people in Gotham are damaged or traumatized early in life, and the drama that unfolds is how they respond to this trauma as adults. Many respond to this trauma by becoming the villain (e.g., Penguin, Two-Face, Freeze), but a few respond by becoming the hero (e.g., Batman). For a brief moment it seemed that Oz could become that hero of the forgotten people, but then he falls further into darkness and villainy when he kills Vic. It's probably the most common theme in comics, where a traumatized character follows the path to becoming the hero, or the path to becoming the villain.

[@danielgiovanniello7217]

I don't think there was ever a real chance of him becoming a hero tbh. Oz was as vile as they come, and they make sure to show us as often as possible that there is no redemption. He's a great representation of a psychopath.

[@arcanewarrior863]

Penguin didn’t really have a “tragic” backstory though. Sure he had no dad and was born poor and disabled, but he was also incredibly loved by his mum and brothers, I think a lot of penguins talking about his tragic backstory is his own narcissism, he was just born an attention seeking psychopath

[@Sueta_Suet0]

He choked Vic like Tony choked Christopher damn that gaved me flashback....

[@Lucky28PT]

Not really Different reasons, different ways

[@amoghthorave3385]

I know right!!! Both scenes are soo similar. The dynamic and all.

[@axieactionava1922]

This type of villain is the most dangerous type of villain to mess with.

[@BrainPilot]

Definitely is!

[@rpc717]

He could have told Victor, "let's go get a big fat juicy steak to celebrate" and just put a bullet in the back of his head. Instead, he killed Victor with his bare hands, slowly, as Victor pleaded for his life. Victor had become close and he had become smart. Oz wasn't looking to share his glory now and fight off a potential threat later.

[@FeudalRecordz]

Just like how Sofia said Oz is a master manipulator not only did he manipulate Victor into thinking he was safe around him only to kill him, he also manipulated us, the viewers, the audience, into thinking he was the good guy of the show and that he wouldn't do such terrible things to such a beloved character of the show.

[@BrainPilot]

Very true!

[@lawsonbrady2586]

i knew as soon as he said family the look in his eye

[@tcgremedy]

Oz betrays everyone he comes in contact with, the Triad, Gigantes, his brothers, his mother, Vic and now the audience.

[@NoName-bk3su]

Him taking money from Vics wallet is the type of shit Paulie Gualtieri would do😂

[@The_Zilli]

it was to make it look like a robbery

[@MolagBallz]

@@The_Zillithat doesn’t make sense, how would detectives know if he had money or not autopsy would show he was killed by suffocating and he had no ID after it was thrown in the water lmao

[@JJ-kz7ep]

the penguin keeping his mother alive in the vegetative state that she so desperately said she did not want for herself. Proves that he has always only cared about himself and his needs rather than the needs of anyone around him. It just proves his narcissistic idealism.

[@Losesome-weight]

I can't get over how many people overlooked this part too. His mom broke down crying and made him promise her not to let her live like that. He kept her alive and told himself the tear rolling down her cheek was her happiness, not that she was trapped in her own prison. I think it was more evil than Vik to be honest. He was going to let Sophia take his mom's pinky off, I knew everyone "he cared about" wasn't safe around him after that.

[@domyates9546]

What he did to vic really did just cement to me how evil oz is and how there are no redeemable qualities about him. Amazing writing and performances can’t wait for The Batman 2 🔥👏🏾

[@Djgotskillz3x3]

We all were Vic, trusting Oz. And the funny part is, throughout the season, the writers kept showing us that Oz actually was Heartless, narcissistic, liar, backstabber ,but then we naively would get sweet talked by Oz again, and again.

[@krishnar1182]

The fact that Oz handled Vic’s mistakes and failings as well as he did indicated to me from the beginning that Oz only pretended to value Vic.

[@alexman378]

How so?

[@TheReelMcCoySC]

I called it from the first episode they wanted us to like and sympathize with victor way too much. And after each episode my friends would say “see look how many times oz saved him” 😂😂 he who laughs last laughs the loudest”

[@michelb8432]

I believed Victor wasn’t gonna make it especially since he knew too much, but damn. His death hurt me, hard.

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah it caught me off guard!

[@1skintyte]

Colin Farrell is 1 of my favorite actors. He did an incredible job w the character👍🏽👊🏽

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah he smashed this role!

[@theboweryking]

If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention... -This is the line that played in my head after oz killed victor. -Victor telling Oz, he is like family. -We, the audience know Oz killed his family (his brothers). -Victor did not. -Perfect setup.

[@prasand5314]

Him killing Vic, was just him embracing his inner monster. His inner Penguin

[@JohnnyJustice777]

I havent watched this video yet. My theory is that, its a mixture of emotions. He feels jealous because Victor got something which he never got: acknowledgement. What Oz really wanted was acknowledgement from his mother. He told Vic that he did a good job and Victor said that he considers him family. So Victor managed to get acknowledgement from a person he considered family( what gravitated Penguin towards Victor was his speech impediment. So he relates to Victor on that front). So he got jealous and angry. Then there is that "family makes you weak" sentiment. Then there is the fear that Victor may overtake Oz in the future

[@Raytheking6]

You forget the number 1 rule: Don't trust anyone

[@Losesome-weight]

Nah, plain and simple he killed Vic because his political career was too important to him and Vik was a liability. Vik could be used against him.

[@DKclips84]

Victors fate was just not too surprising for me. He had a chance to get out, but chose to stay. Developing trust/liking someone like Oz is just so foolish. The show presented many times how Oz would just use people for his own personal gain, then toss them to the side like a piece of garbage. Yet Vic was blind to that.

[@judgedeath8354]

Theres a reason they’re villains .. tired of all the watering down and making villains sympathetic nowadays … refreshing and absolutely a great series 🏆 RIP Vic , he was a good kid

[@sskengineering8474]

Collin's portrayal of penguin might even eclipse joker from dark knight!

[@BrainPilot]

Bold statement!

[@thaistomp]

It does. Colin Farrel is probably the best actor of this generation 💯

[@_first_touch_]

Oz is a master manipulator, he manipulated us into believing that he deserves redemption

[@BaileyHale-x2r]

Remember when victor was dancing with Oz mother and the mother showing affection toward Victor. Oz was jealous then. I knew victors days were numbered

[@namesake7139]

Oz is a true villain. No redeeming quality... It's not like he was abused as a kid like Wilson Fisk, he was treacherous from the start. I thought Victor would evolve into Victor Zaz and i thought it was also an origin story for that... It's Gotham, anything can happen.

[@dredgen7715]

Cant wait for sofia to find Lazarus pitt and bring Vic back! S2 LETS GOO!!

[@svdagoat7972]

While I was heart broken over Oz killing Vic I understood it because he had a soft spot for him and eventually he was going to want the top spot the same way he had all those under bosses he herded wanted the top spot and killed their own boss still crazy how he kept his mistress around though when she was the one who gave up his mothers hiding spot to Sophia Falcone

[@Djgotskillz3x3]

Basically anyone that trusts Oz, life ends up the literal opposite of what they wanted

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah it's true

[@bobo8778]

I don't think Victor's dead. If the writers wanted him dead dead the penguin would've put bullets into him. Hell return to help Sofia come after him. Victor will then realize he has a 2nd chance at life and this time go the good man route and look up to Batman.

[@complexgrafix]

U wish

[@noahcockroft6859]

Hmmm I think you're right, it was kind of sloppy.

[@Steynkasegwe]

What the heck was that, man? Honestly, I felt that struggle too, and I feel sorry for Vic. This is the true definition of 'when God wins, you win too, but when the devil wins, he wins alone'

[@ParkerCS2]

Had Vic not mentioned Oz was like family he probably would’ve had a better chance of surviving. Saying that was a death sentence. He couldn’t just kept quiet during Oz’s drowning of his sorrows. Vic made a critical mistake that you could make being in that line of work. He therefore was never meant to be a part of the criminal underworld. The weak don’t last long, and Vic was weak by not being more intellectual. And bad choice of words is an example.

[@jonfreeman9682]

But was that the moment Oz spontaneously decides to kill Vic or did Oz plan it all along.

[@hollywoodhispanic4549]

@@jonfreeman9682pretty sure he was still gonna whack him

[@ParkerCS2]

@ we honestly don’t know for sure.

[@ryecatcher25]

@@ParkerCS2 agree. But even without the family aspect.....vic knew too much. Penquinn wantes a clean start, not have someone around who had seen him vulnerable and who really wasnt strong enough to survive the criminal underworld.

[@ParkerCS2]

@ Penguin’s men also know everything. What makes Vic any different? Other than knowing his more emotional side?

[@Specter5053]

The ending especially, but the last episode in general, gave me the feeling like Oz wasn't just self-centered, opertunistic, and cruel. He was all those things, but it seemed at first like he did them to get ahead, just stuff you gotta do to make it. The last episode made it clear that those actions were pathological. He genuinely didn't seem to compute his fault in killing his brothers. And then killing Vic was just next level. That has got to be the #1 betrayal I've ever seen in a show. Because it is so clear how greatfull Vic is to Oz for everything, how he would support and help Oz whatever it might be, and Oz kills him so brutally. Loyalty means nothing to him. So ya. The Penguin is a great villain, is what im saying.

[@rogerskitt1542]

I knew right when Oz said fuuuuuu**k with a deep breathe vic was done

[@maeannengo4908]

Ever since Oz started training Victor, I knew Victor is gonna die, but I never thought Oz would be his murderer

[@nerdbomber]

Dude I almost teared up from Vic’s death

[@WaxP357]

I think it’s interesting that Francis also told Victor that she loved him and thanked him for being a sweet boy… Victor gained the love Os’s mom.. and like his beothers’s Victor is now dead

[@HenzoW-cf3mh]

It took me a while to get all the Batman references that they saved for the finale. I didn’t know who wrote that letter for Sofia but I’m glad that you clued me in on that being Catwoman, which is really interesting. I would love to see them introduce Robin so him and Batman can have a sort of mirrored relationship to Oz and Vic. Vic made Gotham feel like a real place and that’s part of what made his character one of my favourites. I do feel like maybe we could’ve gotten Commissioner Gordon for a cameo but regardless it was nothing short of amazing. I do kind of want to see other villains like Joker and Bane etc but I want them to give Penguin their flowers for once before we jump over to them. From seeing this, it’s clear that Batman doesn’t have a lot of control of this city even post-the Riddler.

[@Vagrant-Hex]

Well, yeah, it’s because he’s just starting out as Batman. In the movie he had only been in it a year. Still way too early for Robin for that reason too.

[@mysimplechannell]

I was ready to watch a separate series with Vic, considering that the actor did very good job. And look what they are doing. Thanks for saving Sofia character at least

[@FernoPen]

As soon as The Penguin put his arm around Vic I knew something was going to happen. It seemed odd.

[@amoghthorave3385]

It did seem odd but I couldn't predict what happens later😂

[@sarikamishra1897]

This is how you create a perfect villain whom we despise and love at same time!

[@A_r78]

Vic didn’t have the makings of a Varsity family member

[@UserSC87]

When I saw the Bat symbol, I said to my Mrs "Batman is going to get yo ass!" lol

[@vegam8700]

Makes no fuckn sense! He left Sophia, the person who knows his secrets, stay alive yet he kills the one who’d die an kill for him. Even Tex told his mom that there were two kinds of ppl that are useful, an Vic had both traits! Such a waste!!

[@michaellanre898]

Probably because no one would take a Hangman seriously..a "Psycho"

[@vegam8700]

still makes no sense! Only thing that makes sense to me is that he’s a complete psychopath an always intended to kill Vic, it would be why he overlooked any of the mistakes Vic made cause vic still proved useful but was still constantly placed in those same dangerous situations. Penguin didn’t get overly upset cause he wasn’t goin to put the effort in, even when it came to him leaving. The heartfelt talks he had were just tools in his belt. He knew Vic through an through, an it had nothing to do with family making you weak shit, he killed Vic cause it was always the plan, he justified himself with that mindset yet his narcissistic nature figured Vic would eventually see through it was fearful of it, especially when it came to being elevated, everyone else knew what penguin was about. Vic would listen to penguins speeches so often that he could almost recite them himself an although he would have probably followed penguin to hell an back, penguin’s insecurities got the upper hand of him. That “family” comment that Vic made triggered him, but not in the way ppl think. It was upsetting and Vic would be unintentionally a constant reminder of penguins ugliness.

[@vegam8700]

Also!! He probably left Sophia alive cause he’s got more plans

[@zackthejuggalo9358]

The lady who played the younger version of his mom killed it she’s an all star and underrated and been on a tone of shows on hbo since

[@is_5013]

Great video, thank you!

[@fob1xxl]

EMMYS, PLEASE ! ALL MAJOR CAST ! BRILLIANT PERFORMANCES ! I WILL MISS THIS SERIES !💔THE "BATMAN" SIGNAL AT THE END SAYS IT ALL !

[@AnxMa]

Could you consider a Kevin Conroy tribute? Yesterday marked 2nd anniversary of his death. He was the best voice of Batman. I made a tribute to him using the classic 90's toys with footage from Burton, Nolan, Arkham and Injustice but I don't got ur reach, and he deserves much bigger tribute.

[@MrGriff305-d3u]

Crazy how we rooted for him. But he was always evil. Brilliant show

[@BrainPilot]

Yeah they really played with our emotions!

[@olivergarrick1175]

I honestly wouldn't mind victor coming back as zsasz this was just his origin has brain damage then turn crazy kind of a stretch but it would be cool great thing about gotham city is that the dead can come back to life.

[@daryljohnson255]

I think you might be on to something

[@hansnoor9637]

This is the best portrayal of a comic villain ever made on screen in the last 10 years. It's narcissistic, sadistic, and deceptive until the very end

[@olivergarrick1175]

This series just put the penguin at the top of my list of favourite batman villains what a great origin story reveal oz true evil nature bravo to Dc and matt reeves didre o connell cristin milloti and collen definitely deserved a emmy nomination for their amazing performances all season i be rooting for series to nominated as best dramas im gonna miss seeing this show congrats to the entire creative team🐧🌂.

[@thornburymatthew]

When I saw the signal at the end of the episode, I teared up for some reason. I love this version of Batman. LET'S GOOOOO!!!!!

[@OhtaniHeaven]

My least favorite actor character in Penguin is Julien Rush Annoying as F

[@BrainPilot]

He needs to reevaluate his position as a professional in Arkham!

[@Randomaccount9470]

Also a boring Simp

[@bluem30man81]

He got to hit Sofia though

[@ulomaogbonna3674]

I couldn't figure him out and I'm not sure that's a bad thing. Every other character had a clear motive except him. Does he love Sofia or is he just using her? There is something extremely unsettling about him and his "special set of skills". What's his story and what does this mofo want🤔🤨🤯?!

[@munchiekins]

his vibe about Gia in this episode was sinister... ​@@ulomaogbonna3674

[@Chelseadram]

Amazing video!!! ❤ ugh, it was sooo hard to watch Vic go lifeless like that 😭

[@BrainPilot]

Glad you enjoyed the video!