THE PENGUIN team talks that finale death | TV Insider

[@LikeAGentlemanPlease]

They finally made a REAL villain. I went from liking him to pure resentment. Finally, someone to compete with Heath ledger’s Joker. And don’t act like he’s not on that level because you forget that it’s Colin Farrell. Thank you DC for actually making a villain that I hate.

[@nickkern4109]

That wasn't Colin Farrell. That was the Penguin.

[@Jumpman16]

@@nickkern4109I think they mean that the fact that it’s Collin Farrell as penguin that he can compete with joker who was acted by heath ledge. Giving praise to how good Collin Farrell’s is

[@JustinShrader]

Easily the best live action dc villain since Heath. This is what acting is all about.

[@themadtitan7603]

@@Jumpman16 I think they know too. They're just saying he embodied the character so much that wasn't Collin anymore, it was The Penguin as praise.

[@jzhen001]

I like him better than the joker

[@TrazLounge]

He made Vic drink the rest of the bottle, took his money and threw his ID in the lake. The sleazy smile was disgusting to watch. Vic begging for his life was heartbreaking. He deserved better after saving his life so many times.

[@Thunda1986]

Yeah my thoughts of him taking his money showed he still hasn't changed he's still a bottom feeder

[@doublep1980]

He took the money & threw the ID away, so that the police will put Vic's death as a mugging/ murder of a John Doe in the files. Stuff like this happens in Gotham all the time and the cops don't put much work into solving these crimes. I mean who cares about another dead street kid in East Point, amirite? It shows what a cold blooded & calculating sociopath, Oz is.

[@redbrickhustla86]

@@Thunda1986 it was to make it look like a mugging killing why he threw id in water

[@TaterTotsNFanta]

And the strangling too. No doubt another body for the hangman

[@s.daniel9224]

Every time I watch an episode, I see something new. I’ve watched the last episode 3 times and still learned something.

[@mojaindustries4185]

that bat signal going up at the end was the most satisfying part of the finale

[@MasDouc]

Especially after the line "Nothing is in your way now, Gotham is yours" cut to the bat signal, aka a batman with the unofficial theme of "something in the way"

[@jacksonperez5615]

Such a casual take

[@CaptainLuckyLuke]

This show really made Henchmen of us all. For years it’s been a mystery how such villains attracted people to work for them and here we are justifying Oz or Sophia in some foolish belief that, for all their violence, they’re capable of actual loyalty. Ultimately Vic is all of us. We should’ve known better…but we didn’t.

[@Thunda1986]

Only way Oz can get henchmen is he pays him well

[@sadtr0mb0ne8]

Yes, everybody should take that to heart, because there are a lot of Oz´es out there. The Gaslighting, the manipulation, lying, watch out for it people.

[@NHCS25]

Wow that's a deep take. Thanks

[@eyespy3001]

Thats why narcissists make good villains. As the audience, we’re empathetic to the characters on screen, and a narcissist preys on empaths. They’ll love bomb you and make you feel special, only to abuse and, eventually, discard you like yesterday’s garbage in the end.

[@budgiecat9039]

​@@eyespy3001😭

[@Tac0maAr0ma]

Shoulda hopped on that bus, Vic!

[@warrior2279able]

Agreed, he had a chance to leave.

[@Laoriginal718]

Facts. That’s what made me so mad. He had a way out and threw it all away and look where it got him 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@Ent.4321]

Penguin would be dead if Vic did that lol

[@Ent.4321]

Vic saved him so many times just to get killed by him in the end.

[@warrior2279able]

@@Tac0maAr0ma I feel like I don't wanna believe vic is dead and still might be zaz at some point 🤔

[@nayeebG]

I love how Matt Reeves slams the MCU's "homework routine". Not everything needs a cliffhanger for the next product. Each content should be its own thing, start to finish. This show was GOLD.

[@thedukeofchutney468]

Technically this show did end with a cliffhanger.

[@Urizen777]

@@thedukeofchutney468 I wouldn't exactly call neither the letter to Sofia from Selina nor the Batman signal a cliffhanger. The first one serves more to give some sort of relief to a homicidal and crazy, but certainly tragic character, who was betrayed by her family and has lost the only member of that family who actually cared about her (Alberto), by finding out she has a sister (whose mother was also killed by her father like Sofia's). The latter, I find to be more a reminder that Batman is still out there and in some ways it presents a looming threat over the Penguin's victory, as it was throughout the entire show, as whenever he thought he was on top, something would come to bite him in the ass. That's my take on both of these moments, unless you meant something else, I've forgot about?

[@budgiecat9039]

​@@Urizen777I wonder if Oz is gonna run for mayor in a few years

[@Urizen777]

@@budgiecat9039 The expression he made when seeing Bela Reale on the stairs gives that impression or even hints at him planning to assassinate her. I do hope she won't be replaced nor killed by Batman 2, but it does seem to be where Oz's intentions lie now.

[@budgiecat9039]

@Urizen777 Yeah but how's that work? Say she dies, would they run another primary?

[@darkgoddarkseid2824]

This show was masterpiece. Can’t wait for Batman 2!

[@allanm2064]

101

[@droboyjr]

Meh it was iiight…..

[@dwaynewade3711]

@@droboyjr0/10 ragebait

[@rtcql9982]

@@droboyjr learn how to form a proper ragebait

[@warrior2279able]

Masterpiece for sure. Hope they keep it up and do more characters in this telling of Gotham. And Batman 2 should be 🔥. They just can't put these things out fast enough, haha.

[@Torus202]

One of the best shows in years. Awards for the entire cast, writers, crew, music. Everything about this show deserves praise. It raised the bar for entertainment again.

[@volumedealer2716]

Great hyperbolic comment

[@azwanisabdosamad908]

Been some time where everyone working on the project is worthy for a praise. I don't see that so much in this "modern" age.

[@SenexClaus]

On par with a top-tier gangster series and the Daredevil atmosphere of Netflix (we still haven't seen the Disney Daredevil, though..

[@BatChad]

100%

[@EFV369]

Vic's death was necessary for the Penguin I know to become what he's supposed to be, if not him, I suspected it'd be his mom, but the fate they gave her was even more diabolical and unexpected. Amazing writing. Amazing acting. Amazing show.

[@AGD_27]

Same, going into episode 8 I was convinced that he was going to kill his mom in front of Sofia to show how he will truely do anything to win, I thought Vic might be safe because he's useful.

[@sometimesidontunderstand0029]

I think he was the penguin before hand this was just to encapsulate the irredeemable nature he’s had since from the beginning.

[@hubie4x4]

I see a better ending than that. Vic was a good guy. I didn't like what happen to him. And for Sofia too. I see a better ending. It's more thrilling and exciting. And long term.

[@TBA_777]

@@hubie4x4I was so busy grieving Vic’s death that I forgot about Sofia suffering in that prison! I can’t wait for 2026 to see Batman II.

[@vanessaprado4013]

I think he was always a psycho, after all he killed his brothers with such cold blood (let's not talk about the mommy issues, at first it just looked like the usual love for his mom... at the end it was the standard psychopath stuff 😱), but it's fantastic how the show revealed all the psycho stuff about him. Let's not forget how he excuses himself because "being an underdog, sniff, sniff 😭", over and over, like the usual psycho would. Then it peaked in the last episode. 😱💕

[@cliffykus]

What Lauren did with this show made me a huge fan of her. I'm in awe and I'm heartbroken by that last scene with Vic. Amazing director/writer. The cast was soo good! And Oz's makeup was next level.

[@Cipher_556]

Me too, as an aspiring writer I'm impressed by what she could achieve with only 8 episodes. Everytime an episode comes up, the show gets better and better and nothing feels like filler, everything is complete and content, every flashbacks feel like a revelation and she used those like a trump card, every plot-twists feel earned, and this is just the tip of what I can say about The Penguin, it's a masterpiece.

[@andywellsglobaldomination]

I didn't know the showrunner was female. And I don't care... A great showrunner is a great showrunner, period. It's sexist to pretend it's special when a woman succeeds as an equal to men. The whole point of equality is, no, neither men nor women are special, except as individuals.

[@Cipher_556]

@@andywellsglobaldomination Yeah, relax... no one's accusing eachother of being sexist here, we're all just showing our appreciation to the writer. No need to get your guns out for nobody.

[@Nikcadem]

​@andywellsglobaldomination you're the one bringing gender into the equation, you should check our own biases' before attempting to comment on others

[@snowgirl3522]

@@andywellsglobaldomination who are you talking to?

[@cirocobama9574]

I know Batman better beat THE BREAKS outta Oz in The Batman 2 😂😂

[@HaiasiYenk]

Seriously such great acting from Collin to the point where I was yelling in the season finale “ WHERES BATMANNN?!!😭😭😭😭@

[@nicobenji0248]

Penguin is a side character in The Batman 2. It's either Hush or Court of Owls as the main antagonist. But he better mess him up regardless 😅

[@LuigiGamesful]

​@@nicobenji0248 With the corruption angle it's either gonna be Court of Owls or Clayface

[@laporteestouverte]

​@@LuigiGamesful Clayface would be awesome, and very original.

[@dimancor2925]

He will destroy his eye 👁️

[@FullFaiteres]

You did good, kid 😢

[@Karl_Drogo55]

You're a good guy VIc..

[@houstonerm6707]

“You oined it kid” proceeds to delete him

[@ShmuckOnWheels]

@@houstonerm6707 It's called killing. You dont have to be scared to type it.

[@The.MidnightMission]

It wasn't for nothing

[@vasvas8914]

You have a good heart

[@perseusshrestha7503]

Rest in peace vic. We are going to miss you. Penguin killing him like that was so heartbreaking.😢

[@Ima.Unicorn]

That scene broke me.😭

[@AlphaQHard]

I knew from the very beginning that its gonna happen, but it still shocked me when it did.

[@paulapaulapaul9644]

I don't believe he's dead. Vic has been left for dead before and always came back.

[@logirex]

I don't think he is actually dead but will turn into Victor Zsasz.

[@ShemarChilds]

@@logirex🎯

[@notjunx]

1:43 lore accurate stutter

[@gregordrizzlewing7339]

The way he was talking about him was like Oz was in the room 😂

[@FoodFillin]

😂

[@ccnemo]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@thedarkknight2221]

There’s no competition, this is the most terrifying, formidable, devious, and ABSOLUTELY DESPICABLE version of The Penguin that has ever been made! Please give us The Batman 2 already so we can get more of Colin Farrell as Oz Cobb, and please have Batman beat him so fucking badly that he winds up somehow even MORE disfigured. For Victor!

[@cngotham4111]

Tbh i think this revolustionize penguin as a villian. I think hes going to be in alot of peoples top 10 villians list while before he wasnt.

[@vasvas8914]

I dunno man, DeVito's penguin wanted to murder infants...

[@randomuser6175]

@@vasvas8914 DeVito's penguin was a fucking joke. Not even comparable

[@madcyborg1822]

@@randomuser6175 I always thought his Penguin was more of your stereotypical comic book goofy villain. This TV show from HBO has a much more realistic vibe. Tim Burton's DC universe was more of an over the top fantasy.

[@noahcockroft6859]

It's the most realistic version - all the rest are too campy and cartoonish Oz Cobb is much more human and therefore so much more terrible

[@earthtosam1982]

I think what Sophia said in the final episode is most true about Oz. He does care for people (his mother, the underdog, Victor) but not enough to put them before him. Oz will always put himself first no matter what.

[@budgiecat9039]

Ironically Oz told Sophia she'll never be happy but he was also talking about himself

[@cngotham4111]

Amd most of all that he was a monster. Penguin showed his true colors that he never changed when he was a kid

[@EduardSLVRU]

If Oz put others before him and he dies. Then how would he know that’s happened to others. That’s the thing. He rather to everyone around dying than he dies not knowing what will be with them if he dies first. This is a normal thinking for every day life.

[@adawgpullup]

he only cares about what people can give him (praise, loyalty, etc) not the people themselves

[@budgiecat9039]

@@adawgpullup yeah it's like Eric Frankenstein on Creature Commandos who killed the blind elderly woman who saved his life and buried him back to health after the Bride has almost killed him yet he still simps after her.

[@marioarias1899]

Lauren is a tremendous show-runner, understands the psychology of the characters from the comics, understood the essence of the Penguin character. He's a child that wants to impress his mother, a freudian character with flawed relationships with women. A kid with no friends, bullied for his deformities, laughed at. And this is why he wants power, as a way to get back to a life he deems unfair. What a show, thank you to everyone involved for making this masterpiece.

[@matthewminelli]

Watching when he had his mom looking out the window, and seeing him dance with his lady friend and pretend that it's his mom, really reminded me of Norman BATES.

[@JoeRiver444]

That death stuck with me and broke my heart. I will always remember that death in a series. I feel that Victor will return to haunt Penguin. We love you Victor😢!

[@Olivver_2019]

This! I was so heartbroken, I literally stopped watching for a moment. My daughter always comments to me, mom it’s a show. I was like but NOT VICTOR! 😭

[@Thunda1986]

OZ has no conscious, he doesn't even love his mother

[@EnterpriseGeek]

i was crying out loud😭😭

[@cyanicxl00]

@@Thunda1986 I agree, I doubt Penguin will even acknowledge Victor in future movies. He drowned his brothers and didn't feel a thing.

[@troillandford7679]

That would be corny. Penguin is such a good liar, he lies to himself

[@Adastra14]

Right after ep8 I went to watch The Batman again. The fact that the film felt EVEN MORE ALIVE is a statement of something beautiful being created.

[@budgiecat9039]

I did that too but...ugh I really wish they hadn't cast John Tuturro as Carmine Falconi in The Batman in hindsight. What an absolute douche nozzle with his fake ass virtue signaling bs outside the movie and the actor they got to replace him was so much better anyway

[@Adastra14]

​@@budgiecat9039 Mark Strong was a better and much more intimidating Falcone, true!

[@clumsyninja925]

​​@@budgiecat9039 I preferred John Tuturro

[@osheroth]

​@@Adastra14 To be fair, Mark Strong is amazing in every role he's in and very few actors can get to that standard; even more so in this case where we got to see his version of a character that was played by a different actor before

[@MasDouc]

The Batman is the greatest Batman movie ever made and probably one of the most accurate recreations of a superhero from comic to screen ever.

[@RICOFRITO]

Wow I low key rooted for Penguin in the beginning, but as the series progressed I was taken aback, and appalled by him. I always thought of Penguin as a buffoonish character, but after this that changed my mind! What Oz did to Victor was straight up monstrous! Fantastic Series!!

[@hightolerance8728]

Spot on

[@MoreInDepthSW]

At first, I started liking penguin, but then as the show went on, I saw that as well seeing the penguins true colors the penguin not alerting his workers that the bomb was going to go off is truly pure evil

[@WilliamJames48]

It must be wild knowing that your character's death took the show from great to masterpiece.

[@danieljoyce4015]

Can’t believe it. My guy Victor

[@Kanoog]

Why are people rooting for Victor? He was accomplice to a horrible human aka the Penguin, also a damn murderer.

[@George-n5t]

@@Kanoogwhat a terrible view on it victor was a kid who was manipulated into a life of crime and then murdered by someone he trusted

[@Remix-pr4xd]

@@KanoogVictor was a kid who lost his family and was manipulated into helping Oz.

[@qianaroyal1096]

@@Kanoogif you peep the scene with Ozs mom talking to the gangster, the gangster described exactly what happened to Victor. A man willing to be loyal to the point of their own detriment just to look for a father figure

[@epictubegamer]

@@Kanoogwhat a weird/dense way of looking at that character lol

[@emanuel81111]

9:40 Matt you are a genius and a good person , a director/producer that doesnt try to blue balls his audience in the pursuit of money, thats a gift

[@Cipher_556]

I really like Matt Reeves, he reminds me of Vince Gilligan.

[@HOTD108_]

​@@Cipher_556Bravo

[@budgiecat9039]

At the same time ....how did they manage to fuck up Batman Caped Crusader then? 😭🤌

[@Cipher_556]

@@budgiecat9039 J.J. Abrams was in the team, even Reeves couldn't carry it 😂

[@budgiecat9039]

@@wallflower1999 Batman Caped Crusader. That new animated Batman show Reeves produced that aired on Amazon of all places. It was dog shit! 🙄🤌🐩💩

[@liquidjackson7172]

This is what makes Batman’s rogues gallery amongst the most elite in all of fiction: Each one of them can make you root for them, relate to them, and also hate them for what they do. Joker, Bane, Rhea’s, Penguin are all character studies. It’s cool to see Penguin finally get his due. Fabulous job.

[@Migzter05]

Colin Farrell completely disappears in this role. Dude is a shoo-in for an emmy already!

[@Loki.Lyesmyth]

I think he was better than the fake Joker.

[@pdcdesign9632]

Colin Farrell CARRIED THE ENTIRE SHOW. Give him the trophy already .

[@budgiecat9039]

​​@@pdcdesign9632Sophia actress for best female actress. Francis actress for best supporting

[@SpFlash1523]

​@@Loki.Lyesmyth No question about that.

[@ottomattix86]

The writers understood the assignment and nailed it. Imo.

[@BlackSaiyan24]

This was truly one of the best shows, period. Any genre, any time. You know a show is good when it gets your feelings flamed.

[@budgiecat9039]

When Penguin said what a big man you are I feel that was paying homage to Pacino from Glengarry Glenross 😂

[@Doughboy14145]

Facts! 💯🍃

[@franzmayet5838]

I hope to see Sofia and Selina interact that would be such interesting storytelling

[@reelstellar]

PLEASE give us anything and everything from the minds of these creators in this Batman universe. It’s so damn good, I feel so lucky to have a Batman universe this good

[@budgiecat9039]

They better get Joker right

[@jimmydishkawnt]

When oz and vic were alone talking on the bench, and that eerie bgm started... we all knew vic's gonna swim with the fishes 😢

[@kingmonde]

Gotham took him.

[@themadtitan7603]

What's a bgm?

[@themadtitan7603]

@@kingmonde Perfectly apt reference imo. He not only killed him like his brothers, but also made Vic seem like another victim of Gotham by mugging.

[@finetttt]

@@themadtitan7603background music

[@finetttt]

@@themadtitan7603 background music

[@cendo3195]

Oz did vic dirty. Batman kick his ass for us

[@AY-qy4jn]

Oz is king of gotham

[@jimmythumbtack]

This kid would be a great Miles Morales

[@budgiecat9039]

He actually talked about it. He said "he looks like me" Problem I have though is by the time Disney or Sony get around too it, he'd be too old for the part. I mean he already looks a bit too old

[@aleksandarradovanovic8496]

He literally is M.M.

[@matiasdevaglia4541]

He would've been a perfect Miles Morales, but he's already 27 years old. They need someone younger to introduce the character.

[@fofao681]

​@@budgiecat9039not every superhero movie has to be when he gets his powers you know specially for popular characters in comics .cmon how many more times do we need to see a spiderman lose his uncle and get the whole with great power speech?we all know 😂😂😂that ,lets move passed that .

[@budgiecat9039]

@@fofao681 but this is live action Miles debut plus his whole point of existence in regards to his story is to be a younger version of Spider-Man who originally look up to Peter who is older, since Peter Parker has been fully grown in the comic for decades now.

[@sweatshirtmusik]

Fuck it I’ll say it, this is the best dc comics show that is non animated. Just pure storytelling and enough chaos. A solid 9/10 imo

[@neil6349]

Not complicated most of them are lame

[@kjswhathappened1837]

All of these people were Incredible! Thank you!

[@Luke101]

Colin has shown Mike Marino SO much love ever since The Batman. Always name dropping him and crediting him with the incredible makeup work. Seeing him doing an interview with Colin now is just amazing

[@budgiecat9039]

Colin could use some Botox injections on his forehead with a forehead lift and he needs to lose the hairband and mustache don't judge me just saiyan

[@blackoffee]

Why? ​@@budgiecat9039

[@dragoon1090]

​@@budgiecat9039bruh stop.

[@budgiecat9039]

@@dragoon1090 Hammer Time

[@Luke101]

@@budgiecat9039 bro he’s a man in his 50s that’s called aging. Still has a great hairline, he’s fine

[@Maximos-GX]

Good job Rhenzy, looking forward to seeing you in many more shows and movies in future.

[@designsbysell]

Please let this team do this style show with all Batmans villains. Absolute masterpiece

[@ghxst1999]

I don’t know what’s next for this kid but he has a bright future in films such good acting can’t wait to see his next project

[@budgiecat9039]

Static Shock please (too old to play Miles)

[@osheroth]

​@@budgiecat9039that would be so cool, and Static got integrated into DC Comics

[@Super-wk6jx]

everybody on that show did an outstanding job. No lecture. Just developing each character and also talking bold steps story wise ending with an absolute chokehold... literally. Its so good that HBO still has the finger feeling to put out series like this.

[@KingSlayerJoyBoy]

havent had a shock in media like what happened to Vic, in a while. RIP for sure.

[@davidhurtado2725]

As soon as he put his arm around Vic's shoulder I just knew.

[@kasiapetruk6730]

I knew when Vic mentioned being like family. You don't say that word expecting positive results to someone who killed his own brothers (not that Vic knew but in my mind hearing “family” would definitely trigger 🐧)

[@davidhurtado2725]

@kasiapetruk6730 Colin Farrell better get ALL the awards

[@ronsetorie]

It's some awards that need to be passed out to these 3 actors...awesome performances all around...Also I love how this show would get comparisons to "The Sopranos" thinking we are watching Tony Soprano but we were watching Norman Bates the whole time...wild stuff

[@prajwaljayaraj5887]

Exactly!!! Thanks for putting my thoughts into words

[@Zoofa188_Qe]

Really loved Rhenzy Feliz as Victor! Really hope to see him in many more roles in the future

[@MRLONG758]

5:08 Describing the way Vic meets Oz as a meetcute is hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂

[@mateeullahafridi1847]

Colin Farrell sitting next to the artist Mike Marino is his way of acknowledging his artistic finesse in bringing the character of Oswald Cobb The Penguin to screens. The bodysuit, the acting, the writing everything worked. What an incredible show. The Emmys will be proud if the show bags it.

[@karimbelhocine9170]

The people behind this series are humble downto earth creators. They love their jobs. Respect the caracters and thats why we ended up with an amazing show

[@thaistomp]

Yup, that’s probably why it turned out to the best series of the year. All of the cast and creators are humble 💯🐧

[@lourencothomaz981]

Matt hit the nail in the head with his point about the connectivity of the Reeves universe

[@colinbradley390]

The finale is when a great show transformed into a phenomenal show. Can’t wait for more.

[@bluecollarmenproductions]

Dude who played victor was perfect at getting our emotions

[@imranrefai4045]

Flowers to everyone involved in this pure masterpiece ..the writers , directors ,actors , cinematographers etc. chefs kiss

[@NEWDOR1A]

We, the audience have been tricked just like Vic. We believed, deep down the Penguin was a misunderstood good guy and we wanted him to win. He fooled us like he fooled everyone else. This is his super power. This is why he's the kingpin in Gotham.

[@ConernicusRex]

We didn't though. And we weren't supposed to. From the opening scene of the show you're beaten over the head with the fact that this is an absolutely irredeemable person without a single noble quality. It takes the kind of brainless "my favorite crime movie is Scarface," kind of mouthbreather to root for Oz, even in the first few episodes.

[@thequestion2859]

​​​@@ConernicusRex I don't think you meant it but that was sort of a shitty thing to respond to his comment with. Avoid the phrase mouth breather and brainless when critiquing and arguing with someone else's opinion. Words hurt, even online even when you don't think about or see how you made the other person feel by personally attacking them for just expressing their own thoughts and feelings.

[@ConernicusRex]

@ this made me laugh at you very hard. Words do not hurt. It’s the first lesson in teaching children how to overcome adversity.

[@thequestion2859]

@@ConernicusRex Whatever. Be a dick then. Double down on it and have too much pride instead of being a man and apologizing when you've done someone else wrong. See where it gets you in life

[@happyvult7853]

@@ConernicusRex like a fly I’m still rooting for Oz, that repulsive shit is compelling to me

[@thatokolagano2582]

I think us the audience was Victor and we experience his manipulation, lies and betrayal first hand

[@budgiecat9039]

Mannnn..... I would a BEEN on that bus to Cali then with my gf The hell with Oz that's a literal dead end and we all knew it No honor among thieves you know that

[@coreydraper6661]

We know Batman probably finds Vic's body. And probably knows who killed him too. It's crazy how good this series was. Can't believe ign gave this a 5/10. What were they watching???

[@judson8441]

Makes 0 sense, Vic was only important to us, to Gotham its just another low life death

[@Randomaccount9470]

​@@judson8441Batman learned that Gotham has a story to tell nobody notices Last movie That was his arc

[@judson8441]

@@Randomaccount9470 this is a stand alone series. Vic clutched up so many times but it’s oz story. Sorry yall love Vic but he will never be mentioned again. Another absolute nobody dead by the river. No traceable ties to oz. Come back to me when Batman 2 is out. He will have to deal with many others including oz, Vic has no reason to be on his radar, only oz

[@jasminmujezinovic324]

IGN called "She Hulk" a masterpiece, so I wouldn't care about what they have to say about anything tbh...

[@callmepsycho3132]

@@Randomaccount9470I’m ngl to you bro, Vic was my favorite character but it makes literally zero sense 😭

[@existenceispain6849]

Man the showrunner Lauren LOVES Oz as a character. When you give people who love the world and characters the reins, you end up making something special.

[@codyhoskins1319]

I really thought Vic would have survived as the most sympathetic character on the show in the same vein of Jesse Pinkman being the reluctant younger partner to Walter White and then escaping when it all came crashing down. Now that Oz has his blood and that of his own brothers and the pain of his mother on his hands, he'll get whatever he deserves if Batman, the law, or Sofia teach him.

[@svdagoat7972]

I got chills when the Bat signal popped up in the end this whole series was a master class had to even go rewatch The Batman as a refresher course

[@notme3422]

that ending completely traumatized me

[@MiguelMartinez-bo5gj]

Thanks to Lauren for being so smart to make Penguin a real Villain.

[@Joseph-oo5tb]

2:10 The way he said "he killed me" felt real

[@iPenzel]

The whole time I felt that type of Game Of Thrones vibe where I got anxiety, heart raising not knowing wtf is gonna happen after each episode. It's so rare we get those type of feelings and vibes with TV shows now a days. It was just well done, truly.

[@budgiecat9039]

That's why you know it's good television Not that milktoast shit on the CW or Disney plus

[@leviuzumaki3903]

You can tell everyone involved in this project and in this series truly truly loved working on it and truly loved every aspect of it and everything about it and loved the direction it went and how it was going to end. Thats what truly makes a good movie or series! I loved everything about this show they did an amazing job on it.

[@eduardoalvarez1921]

Crazy finale. Great show and can't handle another season emotionally. Killed me what he does to Vic. I hope for some chance Vic survived to come after him. Broke my heart and thanks for such a great show.

[@smiffyoh7894]

Top tier casting throughout the series, Rhenzy Feliz especially. He was the 'Jesse' to Farrell's 'Walt'. Brutal. Great writing and direction too. Seriously bravo, exceeded my expectations.

[@plantemor]

This show is not only successful because it was well written, filmed, edited and acted. It was also successful because it was made by people who respect their audiences and care about creating a good experience for them. The rest of hollywood should take notes from you guys if they want to win their audiences back sometime soon. Might be too late for a few of them, but The Penguin completely won me over to The Batman franchise and I am excited to see what come next. Thank you for The Penguin. What an enjoyable and refreshing experience! Love from Denmark.

[@liquidjackson7172]

❤❤❤

[@vasvas8914]

Rhenzy is awesome. Intellegent and very likeable. Would like to see his next projects.

[@SteelyyDan]

She is such a great writer unreal stuff

[@XaviSupremo]

I have never hated penguin so much in my life…how could he.VICCCCCC 😩

[@NavasGonzalo]

Colin Farrell has allways being a genious actor. I think much more people just will know now.

[@stormproaudio.]

Award winning show this year..truly amazing epic

[@joziejozieterranova5977]

Sofia hands down the best female Antagonist type character in t.v perfectly and tragically written

[@Gio-ym4uj]

She's a great writer.

[@glennbridges3062]

Victor looked out for Oz so many times, literally saved his life. But Oz does that

[@gabrielharward4189]

At 8:30 I think that is the most refreshing thing to hear about the series and about the direction of the art is making complete stories but not teasing everything or trying to sell something else. That's not even including the refreshing amount of good story telling, characters, etc. I'm loving the confidence and style that everyone is putting into this art form

[@chrvtiannn2609]

Matt reeves geez dude true poetry 😭

[@EnterpriseGeek]

I was crying out loud...it was terrible! Amazing show!

[@olivergarrick1175]

What an excellent series best comic book show of the year give everyone involved all the awards bravo to matt reeves for being a good storyteller and bring his vision to lifes 👏🏽👏🏽.

[@David-xy2ly]

When actual monster is made, totally fantastic show with actors and storylines truly brilliant. Best show I’ve seen in a long time

[@Tsutsu5]

Everyone should go back and watch the first and last episode. It was literally a repetition of what happened in the first 6 minutes of the show, Oz makes it seem like he’s your friend and he puts a mask on. And when he lets that go you can see the change in his face. The evilest grin a man could have razors his face. Shows you he truly enjoys what he does and feels no regret because his justification is “I had to do it”

[@pershonperkins1992]

Love this tv series so much everyone on here deserves a award and more movie roles

[@lagaum]

Best show of the year for sure. Colling Farrell gave us the best Penguin EVER. Cristin made an amazing Sofia-WHAT A CHARACTER! Rhenzy acted perfectly with Farrel. The speech he gave Penguin in the hospital was the best character growth moment in the show. And with all that said, Deirdre O`Connell gave a breathtaking act playing Penguin`s mom. Wow, she was such an amazing and interesting character. And she reavealing she knew what Penguin did all along? HOLY COW! It was an 11 out of 10 show for sure!!

[@budgiecat9039]

I understand why they can't use Batman (it's actually because of some bs legal copyright reasons which..... actually involves Disney), but I would have liked to see James Gordon show up to arrest Sophia at least instead of just chief Mackenzie

[@dannf3736]

The writing of this series is OUTSTANDING 👏🏽👏🏽💯

[@julienossola]

I cant believe Colin Farell is the Penguin. WTF? I just cant. The looks, the accent, everything. It makes absolutely no sense. He is one of the best actors I have ever seen.

[@FrancoCarlesimoArt]

Really well written and overall great show. Congrats to all the team. and THANK YOU!

[@rcsskier]

Matt Reeves throwing MASSIVE shade on Marvel’s formula. 🎉😂

[@dekenn3]

Phenomenal show! Please give us more seasons and fast!!!

[@zahone001]

Lauren LeFranc should be the main writer for The Batman 2. She's truly the master behind all of this 🔥

[@MASTERWAYNE_718]

BATMAN 2 IS GOING TO BREAK RECORDS...

[@BatChad]

It's gonna be big

[@aleksandarradovanovic8496]

The Penguin certainly helps but the problem is it's gonna be a long time before next Batman movie... and people will starting to forget about this show.

[@MasDouc]

Man I hope so, I feel like after the success The Penguin, The Batman is finally getting the recognition it always deserved. I feel like people are finally starting to see what Matt Reeves is creating here.

[@hectormartinez805]

Show was great but I can’t believe no ones talking bout we may have found our miles moreles

[@wesleysmith9959]

That’s a fact, he would be a great Miles

[@alexism9656]

He did play a marvel character I believe. That nerdy kid from The Runaways

[@SoulHorizon1313]

Dude he would be an incredible Miles wow

[@JP-1990]

​@@alexism9656OH SHIT YOU'RE RIGHT!

[@Ostanovka]

Too old

[@JR-pp3ed]

Batman better beat Oswald like a cherokee drum!

[@stradag21]

Amazing writing and character development!!! That victor death scene was a tough watch! 10/10! Cant wait for the Batman 2!!!

[@ChopGod23]

Collin is so good in this show. Everytime I see him on one of these videos for a split second I’m like “who does he play again???”

[@ClarkeBar2424]

Oz is willing to do anything to save himself..... from himself. I find the most compelling thing for me that stood out, was Oz's relationship with Rex. At the start of the show, the story about the gangster in his hometown that was a hero, almost a father figure to him, is the same person that was going to murder him/ use him for his, "talent." Its the same person that Oz wants to be when he grows up, not for the reasons he mentions, but to have that power and to use it and manipulate those same people he helps out. Oz learned how to be someone like Rex from himself, from his own jealously of his brothers, not for a means of survival of being born into slums like I assume Rex was. Rex had an ends to a means, Oz was born with that drive. I love that its a call back to the first scene we see Oz being vulnerable with Alberto. I think thats one of the only times in the show we see Oz being 100% himself and thats why he has the spring reaction of killing him- he thinks he's made it to the big leagues with the Falcones with being cool with Alberto he can relax for a second, but then his ego gets checked and he cant handle it.

[@2ambaby198]

God damn it penguin team give us a season 2 PLEASE!!! I haven't watched Batman since middle school and i could care less about Batman but this show HOLY MOLY best crime show i have seen in a long time

[@skyhunter2816]

We're not getting a season 2. We're getting THE BATMAN 2.

[@niclane3477]

Cristin Milotti, amazing writing! Loved the show, writing, acting, sound design, all incredible!

[@IdocarebutIdont]

W Showrunner.

[@budgiecat9039]

Imagine if she has been the showrunner for CW DC shows back in the day instead of Greg Berlanti or that insane woman that did Batwoman

[@kevz2474]

One of the best shows I've seen in AWHILE

[@ArpitGangwal]

Dear Matt Reeves and Lauren, we would love to watch a series completely based on Sofia and Selina Kyle's. Thanks for making this!

[@SlickRicWhite]

This video was awesome. I love the vision that Matt and the team have. LONG FORM EXPRESSION, BABY

[@JamaicaliveboyOnelove]

Did anyone check to see if this kid is still alive.

[@RuaidhríRyan]

Nice wishful thinking

[@joshuaxavier0523]

Yeah I went there last night, he's still dead, just laying there

[@DavidCoperfield-vq1zr]

It’s real hard to choose who’s better, that was insane acting.