THE PERFECT BIKE FIT | 5 Ways To Feel Faster

Season 3 Episode 24 SUBSCRIBE: bit.ly/2gMWc1t
#bikefit #bikefitness #cyclingcoach
We are always told more comfortable is faster, but like anything there is a balance between speed and comfort. Let Dan take us through 5 key factors to feeling faster on the bike.
1. Saddle Height
2. Cleat Position
3. Shoulder Angle
4. Movement Snacks
5. Load Management
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[@dskordo]

Keep up the great work, Chris!!!

[@mmowolf4658]

Really helpful video, answered lots of questions.

[@derekcravenPT]

Well done, the clearest bike fit explanation I have heard.

[@cronoukie]

Thanks buddy because of you I ended up downloading an Angulus program to capture geometry. Appreciate your work.

[@HAMPT0N]

Really good way to show a bike fit and help people understand a bit better. Excellent work

[@danielvdl7555]

Thanks Hampton

[@abedfo88]

the exercise @8:10 is the one the physio hammered into me, definitely helped my back issues massively.

[@stevestewart-sturges2159]

Straight ahead common sense information, Thank you!

[@mikexhotmail]

Thank you very much

[@thewanderer673]

The best channel ever

[@PInk77W1]

I bought a used SEVEN compact frame off eBay. The ad said 41cm seat tube. Good for rider up to 5’6”. I’m 5’9”. Perfection. LoL.

[@saracen888]

Hi Chris, bit of a throwback to this video but you look awesome one that bike. May I ask your height and the size Oltre you went for? Many thanks

[@andrewverdon9718]

More movement snacks please Dan!

[@danielvdl7555]

Haha or even better get in the gym and get strong. Hard to convince some cyclists to do that though.

[@DMalek]

I have a Bianchi Infinito CV 2013 that I would love to get a professional Bike Fit for. I live in Barcelona. Any contacts you can recommend?

[@ariellevin3008]

What app are you using for the bike fitting. It seems more exact then the one I use.

[@changomeister]

best fitting advise video!

[@davideah]

Hi guys! Is it possible to tilt a little bit up the handlebar? Thank you!

[@souloftheage]

I fnd it interesting that crank length is talked about extensively. But rarely does one hear about "Q"(distance between knees and/or hips). I have rather wide hips. I am a wide man. I use a 48cm handlebar. I use spindle extenders on my bike to widen the diatance between the pedals. When I did this my back pain disappeared. My back muscles were no longer "reaching around" to stabilize my pelvis. My vastus medialis grew immensely and I no longer felt I had stress and pain in my vastus lateralos and tensor fascia latae. My cadence quickened and I felt more "open" and not so cramped on the bike.

[@lynnebarkas6906]

I take it before all this is done, his stem length and crank lengths are best options for this rider. ?

[@jorgelucascouto]

Very nice video

[@attybong]

what app is that on your phone?

[@paulgabatan5089]

May i know what stem degree angle and length that you are using?

[@antoniosanto2617]

Good video, I have a question about handlebar position (brake levers included) what is the best position of the handlebar and its brake levers?

[@sAmiZZle82]

You want them positioned so your elbows have a relaxed bend and aren't locked out. You don't want rounding of the shoulders or shoulders hitched up. So if you have them positioned so your shoulder angle is around 90° that's where you want them

[@robertrepka1372]

Hello, what is that app the fitter is using? Thank you

[@muchirigateri]

that bell!! well.. I'm awake now! (A+content though)

[@nathaneveritt489]

What app is the angle measuring angle?

[@keepingtherubberdown5715]

What is that app you are using on the phone

[@ucdcrush]

I thought we all have a comfortable foot angle. Never thought about trying to change it. When you know your happy foot angle, it's a good sign that your knee has extended out of it's comfortable range.

[@hernandodaza1428]

Which is the app that you used?

[@_crow8887]

How did you stop flexing your ankle so much , video said you used to flex your ankle alot , seems now you don't so they moved your seat further down?

[@duannedigap5569]

What app are you using?

[@jnj3254]

What is the name of the app

[@dv2344]

what app he is using

[@Maluras13]

Hey Chris! Any advice on how you managed to improve your ankle angle? That’s something I’ve been struggling with

[@danielvdl7555]

Firstly we moved the seat down because he was reaching too much for it. Then we worked on some on the bike drills and a couple of off the bike things to try and improve it. I am hesitant to say exactly what as different things work for different people so it is about finding what works for you. I can try 5 or 6 things before finding what works for some people. For Chris the cue that ended up working best for him was driving the thigh back on the downstroke. This helped for both glut and ankle.

[@ChrisMillerCycling]

Like Dan mentioned, we tried a few different things, but in the end it was merely the cue of concentrating on driving the thigh that did the trick. I can remember the first few weeks after making the change ( I think he dropped me like 2cm...maybe even more, that first time) and it felt so weird. But what it did is help me concentrate on the pedal stroke.

[@souloftheage]

BEST way to do a bike fit is to use a watt meter. That way one can adjust all the parameters for the individual cyclist and see what works best FOR THEM. How much power one puts out is the ultimate parameter.

[@kokonanana1]

!!!!!

[@leftymadrid]

Chris, your fit body screams out "I AM A CYCLIST" lol Yes a good bike fit is sooo important. Also found that the correct gearing for terrain is a back saver...

[@ChrisMillerCycling]

HAHA! It's amazing what a good Filter will do mate :). As for the fit mate, it certainly is important, but nothing beats actually riding your bike for making your position feel comfortable. Like Dan said, our bodies can adapt over time, so never let a mm here or there in your saddle heigh stop you from getting out there and having fun

[@concernpinoy9228]

​@@ChrisMillerCycling❤❤❤❤🎉

[@refcastro1406]

What about foot to cycling shoes correction? Insoles, cants and shims?

[@danielvdl7555]

There will be another vlog about this. Works for some doesn't work for others.

[@aaron___6014]

Damn, my frame might be too big based on the shoulder angle.

[@dimetracooper4183]

What is the name is the app

[@joselarrarte6964]

I have fitted my bike several times. However, I jave not been able to get rid of the chafing between my inner thighs. Any advise?

[@kokonanana1]

Get a more narrow saddle. Or lose some weight. Or both.

[@johnduddy2359]

The point from which you hold your phone to measure those angles will influence the result you get, especially the ankle in this case because you are looking down at it. Good info though

[@danielvdl7555]

This is true we try and be a bit further away to minimize parallax error. You can generally see if it is the right sort of angle. I do a couple more checks but it is too complicated for the vlog.

[@valerijov]

What is the name of the app?

[@benjammin365]

The app is Hudl technique

[@abhisheksa6635]

which app was that to get a virtual angle, I won't be buyin a ginometer then, but u used both

[@R0b3ert]

Angulus good and free

[@rupephoto7615]

Oh whats that app

[@azispradana2726]

May I know what apps in your smartphone to calculate the angle straight from recorded video? Thanks!

[@chickenleg123]

Hudl

[@abhisheksa6635]

@@chickenleg123 Guess a team can only register in there, it's not for personal use.

[@hermanvansch4939]

Changing cleatposition doesn't change knee over axle distance, saddle position does

[@danielvdl7555]

Hey Herman, That is mostly an editing thing. The cleat position is more for making them even side to side. And knee over pedal spindle is done to a large degree with saddle moving forwards and backwards. In saying that cleats have a fairly big impact in knee over pedal spindle in how far forward or backwards they are. Chris had 2 different shoes with what he throught was the same cleat position but they were almost a centimetre different fore-aft which has a significant impact in his knee over pedal spindle.

[@Blankishful]

I’ve been riding road bikes for 2 years n there’s so many measurements plus pro and cons advice. I’m going back to mountain biking, simple n just bash those trails! But still good advice though

[@alannkevin]

That’s a very aggressive position 😮

[@DevelopingNL]

App name for angles?

[@R0b3ert]

Angulus good and free

[@martinazevedo3747]

Did they give the name of the App already?

[@R0b3ert]

Angulus

[@TboneTenEighties]

Comfort is speed people

[@lenfaict5600]

What is the app to make the Angle ?

[@R0b3ert]

Angulus

[@luketoms6110]

What was the app he was using or was it just his phone.

[@luketoms6110]

@@dannyroberts-clarkenerocoa5605 cheers.

[@dabostic]

What app do you use to measure the knee angles?

[@chainsherlock6268]

Was wondering the same

[@chickenleg123]

Hudl

[@andreamok5804]

Hey Chris, may I know how tall are you?

[@ChrisMillerCycling]

175cm

[@mtbgo7860]

What is the app you use to draw the red line and get the angle?

[@ChrisMillerCycling]

hey man, it's called Hudl

[@abhisheksa6635]

@@ChrisMillerCycling Can we use it in Android phone, and can we register there for personal use, it says that a coach needs to add the email address in the roster and then only we can login, I have no coach and I am just keen in getting those angles w/o a Goniometer.

[@seandavchrsn]

Nice work team. Kudos for the parallex reference, good job!

[@kyriakossach3000]

Hello my friend please say to what size bike oltre xr4 i take i am 1.67cm my leg is 73 cm and my hand is 68 cm!

[@ChrisMillerCycling]

I would suggest a 50cm

[@kyriakossach3000]

@@ChrisMillerCycling thank you very much!!

[@Lolimaster]

The perfect bike fit is the one you do it yourself for yourself. A "pro" expensive bike fit it's basically the best position to obtain results which can be extremely painful in a 10Km+ ride.

[@cptbrncls7050]

lol

[@souloftheage]

Agreed.

[@lukewalker1051]

If I tried to ride in Chris's position, I would be crippled pretty quickly as an older rider. The fitter spoke nothing of saddle to handlebar drop and therefore weight balance of saddle to hands. Chris can ride his position without pain but the average recreational cyclist can't. Its why you almost never see an 80 year old on a road bike. The less fit you are, the more weight you need on the saddle and more upright the fit or you would see more 70 years running 5 inches of saddle to handlebar drop. The greatest cyclist of the modern era Lance Armstrong rode 1 bike size up from his body proportions and less saddle to bar drop than any of his contemporaries.

[@cokicoki88]

Whats that tnb meaning on your hat

[@ChrisMillerCycling]

Team Nero Bianchi. It is the team name

[@Alllivesmatterloveeverone]

whats the name of that app please and thank you

[@sourabhspandirkar5186]

Hudl

[@R0b3ert]

Angulus good and free

[@ozziebiker1975]

What bike fit app is that? Looks really interesting

[@DP-PhD]

Might be bike Fast Fit - available on iTunes or Android

[@danielvdl7555]

Hey Kieron, The app I use is hudl technique it's not perfect but it does the job.

[@mcclausky]

@@DP-PhD Only iOS unfortunately. Hope they develop one for Android soon.

[@andresfeliperamosromero3060]

I’m enjoying the bike so far kzbin.infoUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA My only real complaints are the brakes and the pedals. I feel like a bike designed for bigger people should have much larger pedals and more heavy duty brakes. I’ve only gotten two really good rides out of it, minimal downhill action, and the brakes feel like they’re already going out. A larger person has more momentum, so I think this wasn’t thought through very well. Also, I wear size 13-14 wide shoes. My feet cramp up on these pedals that are clearly made for smaller feet. Since I’m not a pro rider (and I don’t think many are who purchase this bike) I don’t think that the straps on the pedal are necessary at all. None of this takes away from the enjoyment I get from riding, however. I’ll just head to a bike shop to improve on a few things.

[@broerie]

There's some good stuff in this video, thank you for that! Lessons learned from this video: 1: Never wear a polo under a sweater.

[@melbournecyclingsegments7510]

Looks like Richo

[@kierenkd]

what are you fitting for? What is the goal?

[@kierenkd]

Oh never mind - comfort - caught at beginning. Different fits for different goals : comfort / aero / power. So a compromised fit rather than perfect ;-)

[@danielvdl7555]

@@kierenkd nailed it kieren not all fits are quite the same. Chris needs to be comfortable for the longer races for sure but still needs to be aero as he is racing a lot. So it is a decently aggressive position that he is in especially on the drops.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Yes the bike fitting app please

[@danielvdl7555]

Hudl technique

[@danielvdl7555]

It's not a bike fitting app just movement analysis

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Thank you for your prompt reply! How were you able to draw the angles on your phone if it’s not an app?

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Daniel Van Der Laan go it! I’ve been a fitter for 15 years and still learn something every day. Thank You for a video that short, concise but loaded with information

[@danielvdl7555]

Sorry George is is an app just not a bike fitting app but a movement analysis app. Glad you found the video helpful

[@dion96]

Why should you use this ankling technique? Is there any scientific proof or does it just feels good to you? Oh and this video is very helpful!

[@danielvdl7555]

Hey Dion, great question. No there isn't any firm scientific proof. I would love to see a study on it. It is more about using your foot as a lever. There is the chance it may not work at all but to me it makes sense.

[@taichihead42]

Hi. I am 5 foot 6 inches. Which Bianchi bike size is right for me. I am looking at the Aria. I want my saddle up high like in the video. My inside leg is 29 inches.

[@kierenkd]

Probably 50cm but your torso length also factors. Thats why some have a bike fit before getting a bike.

[@taichihead42]

@@kierenkd Thx so much. My local bike shop is saying 53cm which I think is wrong.

[@asteriobagunas7237]

5 ^6 looks same to me, but.for my Share or Experience better size bike small for you cause my bike extra emall im planning to buy small only the results when i try stand climb for mountain theres a hit to front . Steampost but its ok i can manage for climb position that's my advice

[@willshaughnessy8515]

what app is that?

[@ChrisMillerCycling]

HI Liam, it's called Hudl technique

[@willshaughnessy8515]

Chris Miller Cycling awesome app Will give it a go Tnx mate

[@boydwhite2237]

@@ChrisMillerCycling do you have to set up some sort of account? Thanks. Great content as usual!

[@danielvdl7555]

@@boydwhite2237 there is free and paid versions of it. The paid isn't necessary

[@briansetal493]

Good job but one thing though can I talk to you 1 on 1

[@jeffwhimpey]

why is nobody saying anything about his collar?

[@ChrisMillerCycling]

Haha!!! I did 😄😄

[@kokonanana1]

3 cm IN FRONT of the pedal spindle?

[@kokonanana1]

Have NEVER seen that recommended for a road bike!!!

[@billyt9921]

That hat tho......

[@nabeelkubba]

Isn't higher less efficient? Wtf

[@physiozest8115]

That hop in the tyre is annoying....

[@ChrisMillerCycling]

Glueing tubulars has never been my strong point :)

[@physiozest8115]

@@ChrisMillerCycling Haha. Good stuff mate. Keep em coming.

[@death2pc]

Fame's too small. Too short laterally. Too far forward. Oh, well.............

[@phumeoli]

I thought so. That's why he is in such aggressive position.

[@GrouEEf]

Hm, there is a lot of very outdated information here...

[@frankmoore993]

So, we all have symmetrical leg lengths? Pro Runners gait? Yeah right. You're way better off getting a non athletic person with the worse gait and fit problems and show EVERYTHING a bike fitter can do.

[@freddiefuckenflintstone2623]

First comment 👌

[@flyingdutchmancycling7874]

KOPS? So 1980! There is no scientific proof that support this theory. Besides, you should do cleat setup before setting saddle height otherwise you mess up your height.

[@souloftheage]

He looks far too forward and far too high. Usually have to adjust riders 5mm DOWN. This allows one to increase one's cadence and br more aerobic. Chris Froome is the perfect example.

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Does anybody care about feeling faster?? I want to be faster, not feel like it.