The Perfect Iron? Mizuno Pro 245 Hollow Body & 241 Blade

[@brianminnotte9688]

the sound is just incredible....you can hear the softness in each strike!

[@uNkLeRaRa4]

One benefit of stronger lofts that I never hear anyone mention is that you can play longer shots with shorter clubs. With shorter clubs being easier to hit than longer ones just by having a shorter shaft, you get the added benefit of easier timing too.

[@scottw9267]

True. I play 225s and get 185 carry with my "7 iron". But I built a bag treating each iron as one iron stronger. My 5 iron is really a 4, my pw is really a 9. I get to wedges and play a 48, 53, and 58. I can make more accurate shots at every distance having the shorter and more controllable shaft than I otherwise would.

[@erichemmings6534]

Just bought the 245's and in looking for a review I couldn't believe my luck in finding a fellow lefty. Thank you mate...exactly the review I was looking for and I don't think I've ever hit the subscribe button as quickly as I did here!!!

[@DylanS353]

Just got fit into these today absolutely loved how they felt over the rest of the clubs

[@lastlifegg35]

Thank you for posting this 🙏🏻 I just recently got fitted for irons after playing Titleist Ap2 for 13 years and fell in love with the 245. The sound and feel is incredible and listening to your strikes is satisfying while I wait for them to come in.

[@canyonaro]

I would LOVE to see a video of the 245 8-iron with +1/2" shaft vs the 241 7-iron. Same length, same loft. Would be awesome to compare the numbers of those two.

[@austinl5548]

Really solid, logical review. The 245 intrigues me the most, especially with the spin numbers you produced with the ball switch. I love remembering my days with the 690MB set in the bag. I just don’t want to relive the feeling in my hands on cold morning mishits with the 241s lol. Great video!

[@BrentoftheUTube]

same only reason i'm playing p790's with graphite shafts, cuz i don't want my fun game to hurt. Pretty sure i'm a better player with my Mp-33's with Rifle 6.0's but the pain sometimes is too much. My right elbow ain't in the best shape sometimes.

[@shakeyfly]

I was just fitted for the 245 with a weakened 1 degree loft. They were some of the best clubs I've ever hit.

[@markbaigent3751]

Matt, I'm loving the relaxed, conversational, yet informative approach to these reviews. I'm an 18-20ish handicap, playing MP18s just because I love the look and feel, and can get accurate feedback on my strikes from them. Never liked the look of more game improvement irons. These Pro 245s seem like they could be a fantastic middle ground where it's closer to the look of a beautiful Mizuno blade, but the game improvement that I *probably* need given my skill level. Next time I'm in Toronto, I will certainly be looking to book in with you!

[@kakimotoK20]

Don’t overlook other chunky clubs. I just went from 2014 ap2 to T200 full set. I did a lot of research, even got fit into t100 and they said if I wanted t200 I should blend but went full send on forgiveness. I’ve had zero issues with fliers or holding greens just all good things. The bad shots I’ve had were pull hooks and the outcome would have been the same had I been playing a blade. In the left woods. Also hit low toe, felt like I almost missed the ball and it made it close enough for an easy chip. My old clubs would have left me that awkward 50 yd pitch

[@jasonjohnson9447]

I had a fitting and these just stood out for me. Great feel and sound. Not the longest for me but the dispersion was the best. Also very forgiving.

[@CHuzz7777]

The 245 is fantastic. I don’t think there’s ever been a time when ordinary golfers have had such a choice of beautiful but reasonably forgiving irons.

[@jimgavin1726]

But not reasonably priced…

[@CHuzz7777]

@@jimgavin1726 Nice things cost a lot of money, always have, always will.

[@jannesthurner5074]

I just bought a full set of 245s. I‘m a five Handicap, but not a great ballstriker. They help me so much with mishits. I played the Titleist AP2 before i got the Mizunos and the Mizunos are just way softer, more forgiving and way easier to control. They’re just great

[@Drizlye]

as a lefty who started golf 3 year ago and is now an 8HC im super excited to try mizzy blades for the first time. I know they wont be the best irons to fit my game but its a mizuno blade... why not try it!

[@joshclayg]

Very easy to watch, no frills format, like it thanks.

[@AtillaTheJeff]

I have no business playing these clubs but they look and sound awesome!

[@Dav373]

That sound on impact is nice.

[@NadavFedida]

Easily the best looking swing on KZbin!! Just picked up a set of MP245. cant wait to shout FORE right while holding them.

[@jiml9062]

Great presentation Matt, sitting down with the club and explaining the concept. Less loft, 7 iron is a 6 iron etc, it is all about the descent angle, anything greater than 45° works as a 7 iron. Played blades all my life but getting old and I tried hard to like my JPX 921 Forged but I am going to trade them in for the 245, tried them and they are as close as it gets to a blade. Need to show the descent angle.

[@troyadams4563]

These 245 irons are unbelievably good. Just upgraded to them.

[@tonybytheway7543]

Great review Matt. Currently play the 225's and love them, interested to see and try the new ones.

[@Travis_James]

Glad KZbin's algorithm suggested your channel. Was wondering where "Matty boy" went. Looking forward to more of your content. Liked the video, and subscribed to the channel. Cheers!

[@brianupdegraff4558]

I'd love to see a test one day where you take the same length shot and play it with different kind of clubs. I think it is more interesting to see how different sets of clubs perform on the same shot (like an 185 yard tee shot on a par 3) then showing how they do at different distances. When you are on the course the shot distances with irons are typically fixed, so seeing how they do at the same distance is more what you should consider when deciding what to get. My guess is that it would show that this "loft jacking" really isn't a concern and when you are dealing with the same distance you'll wind up with shots of similar heights and maybe even similar spin numbers.

[@stuboy13]

Love the style you filmed these videos in. Great close ups also. If only the actual industry giants realised nobody wants stock photos eh.

[@valdezrl]

Love the review, informal was a nice approach. Excited to try the 245!

[@johnkraus5454]

Wanted the 225's from the prior release but wasn't offered in left hand. So glad Mizuno finally offered the 245's this time around!

[@william_hartman]

I just got a 5-GW set of 245 and got them bent 2* weak. The lofts now match the 243 and are just 2* stronger than the 241. The looks and feel are unmatched compared to any other club that offers this much forgiveness. Even bent I ended up going with an extra wedge, T22 59*, T22 55*, T22 52*, and then MP-245 GW at 50*. Even though there is only 2 degrees difference between the GW and 52* the carry distance is 10-15 yards longer because of the hollow body vs forged.

[@theCycleReport]

Whenever i get new irons I hope to get a combo set of their cavity back and the hollow body - like 245 for 4-7i and 243 for 8-pw

[@chrisfreitag2603]

Matt, superb and very professional review. Elite club and ball speeds. Well done.

[@darrennewton7319]

Man ! Matt this testing was impressive 👍🏾. The swing seemed on song with both bladed and hollow clubs, great review so glad you had these in lefty enjoyed it even more 🏌🏾‍♂️

[@Joe-tq8fr]

Great review! I appreciate your objective approach to equipment reviews. Keep ‘em coming.

[@frankkrieger7039]

Man, you are really good at what you do. This video was informative and really resonated. Thanks.

[@christopherxl]

Great content! Loving the reviews along with the other, more unique content you’re putting out. The combo is great

[@christopherxl]

One note: your ballstriking and the subsequent data you generate is a differentiator for you compared to nearly all other golftube reviewers. I know you prefer shorter, digestible content on this channel, but I think I speak for many when I say that, were you to produce longer content that tests multiple irons (4, P) and/or compare them with other well known models.. 1. Your audience would be thrilled 2. You could grow your channel even more!

[@markbrookes6915]

Muscle backs every day of the week for me I don't need them for distance got my woods for that , looking for precision dialled in . Still using MP 20 MB love them

[@frederickschranck893]

Do you have the ability to post the smash factor numbers with the other results displays? I think it provides some useful feedback. Thanks!

[@nickkotsify]

MP-20 HMB was nice, i think i'll try out the 245 this year

[@gregthomas2142]

Hi Matt- great content. Is it possible to mix a set 241’s & 245’s or are the lofts, ball speed too dissimilar? 10 handicap, LH golfer, decent iron player but not sure a full set of 241’s up to 5i would be realistic.

[@atxrich]

I was looking forward to this day. As much as I love my JPX 923 HMP's, the 245 looks soooo good.

[@mikesingleton174]

Love the video! Quick question..which ball did you switch to during the 245 testing?

[@GolfLiberty]

was either a PXG or a Prov1X can't remember

[@ramoose312]

What higher compression ball did you switch to with the 245? I was fitted today and loved them. Only concern is spin rate compared to the 241&243. Currently playing MP33.

[@christiane9191]

Great review. Would love to know your opinion on 245 vs. 225. I know the extra tungsten provides more forgiveness, but there’s a significant price difference now so curious how noticeable that is on those mishits.

[@tomotto1298]

Love it! Also a good thing to mention as a fitter/fitting, you predominantly hit a draw. I’ve seen some guys come in an out a 6 iron over 8k spin with 30+ degrees dynamic loft. The get so much out of a 235/790 type of spin killer.

[@jamestheproexpat]

I have a question. I’m a fast swinger and I’m training for LD. My swing speed with with 7 iron is 110mph but even when hit flush the ball speed / efficiency is a little lower. Is it because I’m playing blades?

[@fransjooste2331]

Hi Matt. Could you please do a comparison of the 245s vs T150, both as is and adjusted to the same loft? Airline recently loss my entire golf bag, so having to rebuild and keen to know how these compare. Thanks

[@wkndwarrior4733]

Did you see the Mizuno forging video they posted on KZbin? Awesome.

[@Chewyness]

I play a “blade” for the sole interaction and the little to no offset, I’ve tried a few different game improvement irons and I had the same issue with all of them and it’s always the thickness of the sole and the offset. I’m playing the new Mizuno JPX tour irons and man they’re good, remind me of the ping eye 2 beryllium copper set

[@fiadev4503]

Same, I'm playing Titleist 620MB at the moment. I actually went into the fitting hoping for a blend of 221 and 223, but Mizuno didn't supply those with my favourite shaft (have used it for years, can't see myself moving away from it). So as a result the 620MB outperformed the Mizuno blend in the fitting. I ended up going with them all the way to 4-iron. Don't regret it, I will accept the odd mishit, but I adore the shape, the lack of offset and the pre-worn leading edge - not to mention the feel.

[@TW92]

Nice review! What was the second higher spinning ball you tested? Thanks

[@arsalansyed3619]

The 245 look amazing

[@SlAAnsky]

Nice to see you again Matt !! Great review ! I wonder i it is possible to get the fujikura axiom shaft as an upgrade for these new Mizuno Irons. ? Keep up the good work !!

[@GolfLiberty]

in a custom build yes, but not directly from Mizuno (or any manufacturer actually, yet)

[@tomlawson5655]

Hi Matt. I'm a fellow leftie and considering new irons this year. I had narrowed my choice down to either T200s or P790s. This video added the 245s to my decision making process. I don't know if that's a good thing or not. I'm 68 years old and a 9 handicap. I'm also concerned about the companies that are producing a lot stronger lofts. Seems like I'll spend half the season just figuring out my new distances. Any thoughts? Also, are you a blade man or hollow body? Great channel. Keep up the good work.

[@GolfLiberty]

245 would definitely be one to test alongside P790 and T200, performance is very good, they look great at address and the sound/feel is soft for a hollow iron. Don't worry too much about the lofts, just make sure the fitter addresses peak height and landing angle with you. You can always weaken the lofts a bit if needed, and/or choose a ball with more spin

[@kurtdeklerk]

Hi Matt, great review . Interested to know what ball did you switch to and how would the 245 compare to TM p770. Thanks

[@GolfLiberty]

PXG ball, 245 is a bit of a larger club and stronger lofts than P770

[@jameslightfoot3530]

Matt, As always a great video with perfect explanation. Keep the great video's coming.

[@MrBraz33]

Gaming the 223s right now and love them but theses 245s might be interesting in the like 4 and 5 for me maybe even 6 with that launch. Ill have to check them out when possible useful vid Matt.

[@tgippp]

That first swing was sizzlayyy 😱🔥

[@gwphal]

Great video as always and your shoes look great! What brand are they?

[@GolfLiberty]

Adidas

[@KJ-wt6xc]

Hi there Matt. How are they compared to the hollow body Honma TW-X irons that you guys tested back in 2021. I remember that those irons impressed you both in TXG.

[@GolfLiberty]

TW-X are a great hollow iron also, they performed well but I'd have to hit side by side to see the differences

[@SeidinhoDE]

Man that sound of the 241s!!!

[@simonwong5310]

Hey Matt! love the channel and am debating these irons. I do have similar distance to yours, Im just curious what do you think your carry would be with about 2 degrees weaker loft in the 7 iron? Im currently in the 921 SEL version, however am looking for some forgiveness, love Mizuno.. but I was debating on getting these at 2 degrees weaker from 6 iron to 9 iron down, and then keeping my vokey 46-50-56-60. Do you think the gap would be too big with the hot face of these on the 9 iron (2 degees weak) to a 46 degree vokey pw?

[@GolfLiberty]

2º more loft would probably bring the carry back to around 196 or so. You might need to put your Vokey to 45º to have a functional gap

[@ejunsub]

I dont think the short irons have a hot face. They are partial hollow so they are basically muscle backs with some muscle taken off for higher flight.

[@dbeasleyphx]

Stinging hands was my experience with the MP20 HMBs mishits off the bottom groove. I traded them out for more forgiving PXGs.

[@brianschultz7320]

How do the Mizuno 245s compare to the Wilson Dynapower forged? I like how the Mizuno’s look but the Wilson’s are much cheaper and seem to offer stellar performance.

[@tomfinn2050]

Will the 245s be more forgiving and longer than the T150s? I know there's some subjectivity in my question, but I also know that the 245 should be longer. Matt, I would appreciate your opinions here. I own the T150s. I'm looking for a backup set. Want something sufficiently different but at the same time, an option I'm going to look forward to playing. I'm old.... if that matters... but a 5HC.

[@GolfLiberty]

Yes, 245 is more forgiving and stronger lofted than T150

[@MicahMade17]

Hey Matt, I’m gonna be gaming the pro 241’s in 6-P. Do you recommend a 4/5 iron in the 245? I can bend the lofts to blend better. Or should I grab the 243 in the set. I’m a decent ball striker but any help in the long irons is a plus. Thank you!

[@GolfLiberty]

243 would blend easier in terms of loft, but it depends how much additional forgiveness/ball speed you need

[@MicahMade17]

@@GolfLiberty thanks Matt, youre an inspiration!

[@TedInoue]

Really interesting to see the ball comparison! I wish more people would do that. Probably a lot of potential buyers are going to be more typical 80mph speed. It would be great to see how they perform for an "average" speed golfer.

[@SONOMA_VALLEY_TOM]

Generic question that applies to Mizuno 245 and other "soft feel" clubs: Are they more prone to denting and dinging resulting from bag clatter? I push a trolley on the course and try to be careful with the clubs, especially new ones. With some irons in the past have I experienced the club heels and / or the face getting small dents. If I want to have clubs that look newer and undamaged longer do I select chrome steel clubs only? I've been playing Titleist T200 for 6 months and they still look okay, no dents in the heels. Hope that you and others respond with their experience.

[@brentninedorf6617]

Can always use head covers to protect your irons if you view them as an investment that you want to maximize their looks.

[@SONOMA_VALLEY_TOM]

@@brentninedorf6617 Yes, can do that. I don't want to seem too precious about the condition of the irons. I don't drive a dinged up car and all my guitars are in excellent shape. I never think that vintage / relic worn out tools look good. Shows no pride of ownership.

[@brentninedorf6617]

@@SONOMA_VALLEY_TOM I hear you. I have to keep somewhat of a budget so I try to maintain my clubs with headcovers. I know some scoff at that, but I want them to last and my brain hurts looking down and seeing unnecessary dings. That is just me. Just didn’t want you to limit yourself if you really got on with those. I hear you about the difficulties of maintaining soft forgings. It is a battle sometimes. Cheers to you.

[@deepee1544]

Excellent video Matt, thank you!

[@joelane2845]

Hi again Matt!! Great video!! Great content! Great visual production!! I hope you are doing well !! I like your honest and upfront reviews!! Your videos are simple and to the point. Yet, easy going and relaxed. You focus on giving reviews of golf equipment, products and wellness are nice and refreshing versus some of the Golf Variety shows or Golf Action movies on KZbin! I don’t need to be entertained by a comedian or clown when I want to learn about golf equipment. You give your viewers your nice, intelligent, honest, sincere opinion and advice in a knowledgeable review of golf equipment with a little bit of friendly humor and fun. Congratulations on the success of your channel and the number of viewers seeking your golf and wellness advice! Two shots of Good bourbon for my friend and I please bartender. Cheers Matt!! Thank you, Joe Lane

[@GolfLiberty]

Thanks Joe!

[@FranTheMann]

Really good video, the lighting is great! I'd love for you to dig in a little more into shutting/opening the face in forgiving irons and seeing a more severe yardage distance variation as opposed to blades. Is there a middle ground there for the average golfer, or just take lessons to square that face?

[@daviddaniels8284]

You look great brother happy new year belated. Great review

[@ronlangfus4946]

Matt, another first class review. Are you using standard 61.5 degree lie in that 7iron?

[@GolfLiberty]

👍 I was yes

[@colbyk8601]

Great video. I desperately want the 245s and may get them in a couple of years when the price comes down a bit. $1,500 just not in the cards for me at the moment.

[@judd8750]

Great review Matt, gotta love the lefty options this year from Mizzy!

[@Riley-ns6bd]

Need the 243 too!

[@Waxhead75]

Matt can you review the 243? Are you really getting more forginevess with CB forged iron vs the 241? Good content! Keep it up.

[@Riley-ns6bd]

he can't because they aren't lefty but they should be!

[@BStrooo]

The sound of the 245 after the ball change.. oh boy!!

[@greguke]

I'm a left handed player. My handicap is high 14. I'm using the Callaway Mavrik club set. How would you rank the 245 against the Mavrik's?

[@GolfLiberty]

better feel

[@gbone2636]

Kinda wish I waited for the 245, got the jpx 923 hmp last year. Don't get me wrong, I like them, but these look special.

[@Bryan_Go1f.]

The GF Forged Sounds soooo nice

[@robhillstrom3283]

Would you say the 243 sits precisely in the middle of the 241 and 245 or does it lean closer to one of them?

[@SchwinnRichard]

Could you compare the 245 8-iron to the 241 7-iron, since they're the same loft?

[@paulwilsdon8322]

Great review Matt, intelligent, considered thanks

[@jackmunro7]

That 241 sounded damn satisfying. Even out of a phone speaker 👌

[@Riley-ns6bd]

@golfliberty don't you think the 243 should be lefty too?

[@freddym6643]

You said the 245 is the best feeling/sounding hollow iron you've tried. Are the titleist T100/T150 not hollow and/or are they not as nice to you?

[@GolfLiberty]

wouldn't consider those hollow construction designs, comparing more to P790, T200, etc.

[@bilbobaggins7095]

So I'm playing mp 54 which are same loft as 241. I'm not a good golfer but I do hit my 7 about 200 rollout. What would I do if I go to the forgiving but strong lofted 245 launch it 220? How do I gap my clubs at that point?

[@885wc]

Matt how would these compare to the Srixon ZX7s or 5s?

[@TG-821]

Why do you prefer this foresight program over fsx2020 or fsx play? Curious

[@Foregrlz]

How's this compared to a PXG 0311 P Head ? Any generation...

[@matthewhughes2335]

Can someone explain to me the ball part, a firmer golf ball will spin more? I thought soft compression exquated to more spin?

[@mfelep]

Sorry if I missed it, Matt - was the ball switch on the 245 to a pro v1x or the z-star diamond?

[@GolfLiberty]

was actually to the PXG ball, nice ball and it spins quite a bit

[@stickgs]

These 245s are good enough to convince Luke Donald to put them in his bag! I'm sure he's loving the extra distance!!

[@lesmoore7613]

awesome info... thanks Matty...

[@mikaelpyka7702]

Zunos are always good looking!

[@neilmckie2511]

They look awesome, might take a while to get me out of my i59s but these would be an option. Think the king of blades Luke Donald has gone to these to get some extra pop from his irons!

[@declansherlock9135]

What make of ball did you change to

[@NickOnPar]

Need to see this vs 225 ASAP MATTY!!!

[@3RPetrie]

Enjoyed this video - thank you

[@jpxst180s6]

What iron were you hitting there ? 6 iron ?

[@albincha9197]

Does anyone feels that the mizuno 241 is heavier on the toe of the club head comparing to 2023 t100/T150?

[@derekmcmath]

What was the ball that you switched too? I have trouble getting enough spin with my 225s

[@GolfLiberty]

PXG

[@derekmcmath]

@@GolfLiberty thank you. do you have any other ball recommendations? I’m looking for low driver spin but high spin with my mid and short irons

[@KG-hg3je]

P790 or 245?

[@emiliomadrigal4406]

245

[@Citizensofthecountry]

You should rename your channel Golf Logic. Level headed golf content/commentary with superb quality.

[@joevorachack3791]

these MP245 are for shallow golfers. they want all the game improvement but still look like a low handicap. guess, this is why I just ordered a set for myself. lol.