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@PhilosophyTube
@PhilosophyTube 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome! Every now and then Antifascists get some news coverage and this video gets a bunch more views! This is an educational resource that I made to help the public better understand these ideas. If you scroll down you'll see that I do my best to engage with people and have a general policy of not removing comments. The vast, vast majority of my replies, as you'll see, are to people who simply comment without watching the video. So again, I would urge you to actually watch it before commenting or you'll only make a fool of yourself! I've no doubt that a lot of people aren't really here to learn or discuss and just want to express their feelings of sympathy with fascism - I leave their comments up and reply to them anyway because I want everyone else to see, and for them to know themselves, that they can't pretend to be rational and sensible or expect to be taken seriously by people who want to use their brains and hearts to better themselves. I do remove comments that contain slurs, threats, fascist propaganda, or antisemitic conspiracy theories, as sadly all too many do.
@MrRollingEgo
@MrRollingEgo 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this, have you any idea of the legal impact?
@Vivivofi
@Vivivofi 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man.
@calebr7199
@calebr7199 4 жыл бұрын
@Luqman Osman Fascists don't want to listen. There's no point in engaging with conspiracy theories or racism veiled as science.
@monty1864
@monty1864 4 жыл бұрын
Philosophy Tube What The goatie is trying to tell those too young to understand is apparently nazis are everywhere , I do not pretend to know how bad things are in America but I’m sure the goat does , here in the UK however the “ far right “ is something constructed for an agenda the goat knows all too well , division is his message , be warned
@GrimoireM
@GrimoireM 4 жыл бұрын
My apologies if I went off inappropriately in some comments. I hope they were at least a good read. Tried to be helpful where it seemed prudent. Thank you for your video.
@Alfareon
@Alfareon 5 жыл бұрын
“We can disagree and still love each other unless your disagreement is rooted in my oppression and denial of my humanity and right to exist.” James Baldwin
@naikigutierrez4279
@naikigutierrez4279 5 жыл бұрын
Alexander Ikaros X=Doubt
@stylis666
@stylis666 5 жыл бұрын
Ah, but that begs the question! Are you human? Check all pictures with a bike in it :p
@MmmMulholland
@MmmMulholland 5 жыл бұрын
Except everyone thinks they’re oppressed. Calling into question someone’s supposed oppression is not oppressing, it is critique. Most people can’t handle it because victim status is very alluring. Take me, I’m a queer Arab woman. I have a lot I could complain about but I don’t like giving power over to others to control my destiny keeping me where I am. If I don’t like people or systems where I am, I will move. If I don’t like my life, I will change it. That quote is dumb, and limits any critique of the individual.
@smile-tl9in
@smile-tl9in 5 жыл бұрын
@@MmmMulholland if you don't like giving power over your life to others, this quote is perfect. This is about rights of people like you not being recognised. Remember that quote exists within a context No not everyone feel opressed. Only the actually opressed people do. Other just like to pretend equality is opression when it robs them of privilèges
@iUseDemFrapz
@iUseDemFrapz 5 жыл бұрын
@@smile-tl9in "No not everyone feel opressed. Only the actually opressed people do." So when the white nationalists claim to be oppressed they actually are? Or would this be inconvenient for your argument so it doesn't count? "They're only pretending to think they're oppressed when it's a group I disagree with!!!!!!"
@zoushaomenohu
@zoushaomenohu 6 жыл бұрын
It's like ContraPoints eloquently put it: "The queer quest is to survive. The fascist quest is to be the only survivor."
@ChrisMaxfieldActs
@ChrisMaxfieldActs 6 жыл бұрын
You poor deluded jackass.
@valkyrie5579
@valkyrie5579 6 жыл бұрын
@@nickmagrick7702 To be more succinct than my previous replies: It's cool, wording things correctly can be pretty challenging on the Internet, especially with how many people are determined to purposefully misrepresent your views. There are extremists of every standpoint, they don't represent the wider community. Making sure white people, or any majority, aren't privileged by law is not the same as "favouring minorities". Peoples right to love who they want and not feel judged is more important than reproduction, because those who want to reproduce still will, and if anything, we could do with a birth rate below replacement rates for a while. There are too many people as it is.
@valkyrie5579
@valkyrie5579 6 жыл бұрын
@@nickmagrick7702 Not from me at least. Personally, I don't believe insulting Internet strangers is all that productive. Neither side really gains anything from it. I may have a deep, profound disagreement with the views you stated, but that doesn't mean I should insult you as a person for them. Plus, if a person is trolling, I find polite conversation is often the best counter.
@herbertfeuerste1n120
@herbertfeuerste1n120 6 жыл бұрын
"everythings so serious now all the time." said the joker and pressed the button. but we dont need the jewish, christian, muslim batman. we need a secular police, not inquisition/shariah!!!
@luciferangelica
@luciferangelica 6 жыл бұрын
shit, man, i just started watching that channel. she's fn great!
@alinawithaface
@alinawithaface 4 жыл бұрын
"Anyone who wears a mask in public is bad" hits different in 2020
@UlshaRS
@UlshaRS 4 жыл бұрын
2017: People who wear masks at a protest are likely there to incite some public harm 2020: People who do not wear masks at a protest are likely there to incite some public harm
@smilinazzdoggy825
@smilinazzdoggy825 4 жыл бұрын
Good one👍😂
@sumsum3873
@sumsum3873 4 жыл бұрын
Oh how the turn-tables
@mateotrejo7048
@mateotrejo7048 4 жыл бұрын
Now BURKA is legal
@ise1441
@ise1441 4 жыл бұрын
@@mateotrejo7048 It was legal before, but good job being islamophobic.
@WillScura
@WillScura 2 жыл бұрын
Mrs. Thorn, I want to say, from the bottom of my heart, I am so thankful you've left this video up over the years. This information and framing is more important now than when it came out.
@leiasleeping1282
@leiasleeping1282 Жыл бұрын
Is she married??
@RealFemale69
@RealFemale69 Жыл бұрын
@@leiasleeping1282 bruh
@leiasleeping1282
@leiasleeping1282 Жыл бұрын
@@RealFemale69 I’m just confused about Mrs. Thorn...
@martaf3222
@martaf3222 Жыл бұрын
​@@leiasleeping1282i don't think so, that probably should have written Ms
@dysmissme7343
@dysmissme7343 Жыл бұрын
@@leiasleeping1282 😂😂😂😂 No, I don’t believe so Ms. Thorn 🙏
@lightningfirst689
@lightningfirst689 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you mentioned that liberals can sometimes be sympathetic to fascists. I think it's starting to stick in people's heads that liberal and leftist aren't the same thing.
@NaffiAxx
@NaffiAxx 4 жыл бұрын
That's because they aren't , the true liberals are on the right the left should be called Progressives.
@mylesgustave1844
@mylesgustave1844 3 жыл бұрын
Except for these Dumb fucks
@kristoffer3000
@kristoffer3000 3 жыл бұрын
@@VeryProPlayerYesSir1122 The progressivism understander has logged on.
@TheCrowDoctor
@TheCrowDoctor 3 жыл бұрын
@@NaffiAxx Bro your left is my right in my country. It's not progressive.
@SylkaChan
@SylkaChan 3 жыл бұрын
That would be me, but I only like them when i'm being forced to hate them.
@anfearaerach
@anfearaerach 6 жыл бұрын
I got downvoted on Reddit for questioning someone: aren't we all anti-fascists as a standard? No one is on a "meh idc" status on fascists, are they? Turns out. They do.
@TreeHairedGingerAle
@TreeHairedGingerAle 6 жыл бұрын
This is what disturbs me the most about humanity rn.
@thequester7634
@thequester7634 5 жыл бұрын
"Fascists have a right not to get punched just like anyone else" =/= "I don't care about Fascism."
@aphyda7428
@aphyda7428 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but that's like saying aren't we all feminists it has a connotation to people like big red and triggly puff radicals ruin it and I'm just the normal person you could say I'm an LGBT rights advocate but I only have a little extremer than the normal guy
@Roro-dv6le
@Roro-dv6le 5 жыл бұрын
Gray Chapman's Pipe what subreddit?
@RevolutionaryLoser
@RevolutionaryLoser 5 жыл бұрын
@@thequester7634 From the evidence I have, the antifascists who are ok with punching nazis without provocation are a minority.
@lilacrain3283
@lilacrain3283 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, you should break up this video with that new sections feature KZbin has since it keeps getting surges of new viewers :)
@Somefool669
@Somefool669 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like youtube finally caught up with the DVD
@genesisplus4325
@genesisplus4325 4 жыл бұрын
@@Somefool669 KZbin: -"we have made a groundbreaking discovery; 'SCENE SELECTION'!!"
@lilacrain3283
@lilacrain3283 3 жыл бұрын
@Cory Muro Beg your pardon?
@-xphobia
@-xphobia 3 жыл бұрын
@Cory MuroSir, this is a Wendy's.
@canadianboyd1848
@canadianboyd1848 Жыл бұрын
i’m inherently jealous of someone who looked this good then and still got a glow up lol. it feels so disorienting watching her old videos. we love you abby, thanks for years of amazing content :)
@sarahfunaki3884
@sarahfunaki3884 Жыл бұрын
I think you just want it to suck ur dick ay , please keep it focused on the theme being discussed
@phoney2627
@phoney2627 11 ай бұрын
Yeah very disorienting, I've been watching Abigail's videos for years before she transitioned and I clicked on this expecting her current self and had to do a double take when she started talking. I only then looked and saw that this video was 6 years old. You're right about the glow up though.
@REALdavidmiscarriage
@REALdavidmiscarriage 3 ай бұрын
Got a glow up? Hasn't he transed to female or something?
@megantron5331
@megantron5331 5 жыл бұрын
Pro state - 😠 Prostate - 😍
@MegaBanne
@MegaBanne 5 жыл бұрын
Pro-State cancer.
@prkp7248
@prkp7248 5 жыл бұрын
@@MegaBanne only state can make socialism possible, because only state is strong enough to remove capitalism.
@MegaBanne
@MegaBanne 5 жыл бұрын
@@prkp7248 You can't really think of capitalism and the state as separate entities. What we often call the state is a company. Maybe it is a company ran by the people, a small elite or somewhere in between. In a fully capitalist society the companies makes up the state, like in China. Anarchosyndicalists tries to achieve a "stateless" society while achieving socialism. What method works, works better/worse than other methods and which methods doesn't work I don't know. I guess marxism-leninism was quite the failure. But I am not educated in economy, social science and all that type of shit. So my words don't mean much in the grand scheme of things. I just think we should go forward scientifically and with an open mind. I also know where I want to go based on how I value the individual experience of every conscious being.
@MegaBanne
@MegaBanne 5 жыл бұрын
@@prkp7248 ... Oh and if you believe in Karl Marx then he thought that capitalism would fail eventually for as long as no force such as a government is acting as it's iron lung. This due to capitalism's supposed unstable nature. Maybe the problem is that the governments are backing up the capitalists in times of crises instead of letting them die off.
@Tespri
@Tespri 5 жыл бұрын
That's funny, especially since every socialist and communists are for big centralized government that will murder people in hundreds of millions.
@birchtree_6
@birchtree_6 4 жыл бұрын
Wait you’re telling me this was from two years ago? We suck jeez
@madeline7272
@madeline7272 4 жыл бұрын
Birch Tree what
@madeline7272
@madeline7272 4 жыл бұрын
Peanutbudda what groups. Also how have they been "cracking down"
@madeline7272
@madeline7272 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeff86ing No, I havent read about anything to do with facebook recently, although that sounds good.
@moralitysheriff8838
@moralitysheriff8838 4 жыл бұрын
Lol. Yeah, you really do. Glad you're smart enough to figure that out. That qualifies you for trial membership in the club of truth. We welcome all that welcome truth. This is a smart young man that needs to take a 50,000 ft view because he just said absolutely nothing. What fascism!?
@Shyhalu
@Shyhalu 4 жыл бұрын
@@jeff86ing All I've seen in the past 2 years in relation to violence and rioting would be antifa and BLM. They still have their twitter and facebook accounts. I've seen them burn down blk owned businesses, yell racial slurs at blk cops, and threaten r**** to female officers. I've yet to see anything remotely similar coming from the right. You want to know my last personal experience with Antifa? A couple years ago in CA I deleted 2 of them who were beating up an old blk lady, one with a piece of wood and the other with a pipe....her crime? "Holding a sign that said I love America, Love for everyone". YOU should be the one looking shit up.
@RonRuble
@RonRuble Жыл бұрын
This was one of the more disturbing videos I've ever seen. Thank you. The subject being covered, and the disturbing realities of contemporary fascism, are the reason for the discomfort. I've saved it in a playlist, and will watch it again. I need to think about what I am going to do with what you've taught me. Than you again, and please keep producing your videos for many years to come! ❤❤❤
@pckle
@pckle Жыл бұрын
Perfectly put. Watching this I had to pause many times; it's disheartening seeing how organised facists are, and how the general public (usually older people) are stuck on the fact that they're liberal because they want to keep using bigoted antiquated language.
@joseph19012
@joseph19012 10 ай бұрын
Contemporary fascism isn't Fascism it's why I agree with anti fascist protests and are still a fascist.
@Medowokha-bp5lq
@Medowokha-bp5lq 6 ай бұрын
@@pckle a state of having perpetual enemies and always both being surrounded and helpless and absolutely right and powerful is fascist speak. Antifascists are just fascist-lite and political ideology being reverend with religious fervor is a massive disgusting flaw in the human experience.
@bravetherainbow
@bravetherainbow 5 жыл бұрын
34:00 "In that case, black skin was a mark of criminality. And from that, it was assumed that a crime must have been committed" or, as Stefan Burnett from Death Grips puts it, "Born with a ski mask on my face"
@GonzoCiosain
@GonzoCiosain 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! That line is one of the most brutal analogies for American racism ever put in a song.
@bravetherainbow
@bravetherainbow 5 жыл бұрын
@@GonzoCiosain ayy glad you agree
@d3vitron779
@d3vitron779 5 жыл бұрын
YUH
@MegaJotie
@MegaJotie 5 жыл бұрын
- so eloquently put it
@ConvincingPeople
@ConvincingPeople 5 жыл бұрын
bravetherainbow It's delightful how Death Grips manage to work really sharp, sardonic political commentary into such abstract, confrontational songs.
@enzodnaesposito
@enzodnaesposito 5 жыл бұрын
"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate with that spectrum" Noam Chomsky.
@danielv5822
@danielv5822 4 жыл бұрын
Communism
@cosmojenkins3020
@cosmojenkins3020 4 жыл бұрын
Daniël V Nobody is saying authoritarian communism doesn’t do that. Lmao. It was very strict toward dissenting opinions. We’re typically always, in this community, anti-authoritarianism of all kinds.
@eryk4229
@eryk4229 4 жыл бұрын
The video draws a line between communist authoritarianism and fascist authoritarianism. The difference between the two is pointless semantics. Antifa = Fascists They use anti fascist rhetoric to spread their version of fascism.
@benjaminpark5460
@benjaminpark5460 4 жыл бұрын
Er Yk that is a very inaccurate take on the term “fascism”. Believe it or not it does have a definition and that definition is entirely incompatible with communism or the left entirely. Fascism is the end point of the spectrum for conservatism as communism is the end point of the spectrum for the liberalism. So to revise your statement: Fascism is authoritarian Communism is authoritarian Authoritarian = authoritarian. I don’t have the bandwidth to deal with individual sects of each group and how they may or may not meet authoritarianism or how politics is actually more of a square and not a line right now because frankly it is irrelevant.
@lemoncoolassociate8786
@lemoncoolassociate8786 4 жыл бұрын
@@meganaxelia I don't hate fascists, I think they're destructive morons that should be resisted in every way, but I do not hate them.
@ianwilliams2674
@ianwilliams2674 5 жыл бұрын
I always start your videos with a bias that what I'm about to hear is a left-wing, debunk-able opinion. Some videos I disliked in the first half, only to take it back by the end. Your videos always give me this mental pain as I realize that most left-wing political concepts have been straw-maned all of my life.
@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick
@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick 5 жыл бұрын
Ian Williams You’re feeling that pain for a reason. Because you’ve been misled all your life. Fascists aren’t your friend. And leftists aren’t fascists.
@elvellarambles9151
@elvellarambles9151 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, it's happened to a lot of us over here, myself included. Both Olly and Contrapoints have even talked about having this general kind of "anti-SJW" to "full-on leftist" journey themselves
@zmdumpbox2340
@zmdumpbox2340 5 жыл бұрын
tl;dr - Thanks for not getting triggered, thanks for being honest with your pain, thanks for reflecting on your beliefs no matter the direction they go, that's actually very healthy and pro-human behavior. From a cognitive behavioral point-of-view (thanks therapy) - emotional pain, like physical pain, is your body signalling to your psyche that something happening to you that goes against the worldview that allows you to be healthy *DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT SHIT NOW!!!* Generally speaking, a healthy mindset (read: a mindset that allows us to be relational to other humans, typically pro-human/pro-social thinking and behaviors) allows us to examine the outside event that is causing us emotional pain, how that event is causing us emotional pain (is it challenging our belief systems? going against our expectations?), and then coming up with a solution that not only resolves the event, but enlightens us as to how to deal with a similar occurrence in the future that will mitigate the intensity of emotional pain again, for ourselves and for second parties - this builds emotional resiliency. The more I ruminate on the things I learned in therapy, the more I begin to realize (way moreso with conservative/rightwing thinkers, but liberals/leftists can get into this too if they're not careful/thoughtful) that Outrage, Cancel Culture, Name-Calling, Morality Judgments, Cognitive Bias, Strawman arguments, etc. etc. etc. can reliably be chalked up to emotional dysregulation. Triggers (say, misgendering for trans folk, higher taxes for capitalists) are typically keywords or concepts that set off an emotional doomsday snowball-story in the triggered person's mind that makes them think that their very existence is under threat - this is what normally happens when debates/offenses get personal. Your mind tells you to fight (by obliterating the threat with name-calling or death threats, not just keeping it at arms' length), or to take flight (by shutting down the conversation via stonewalling), 'cuz if you don't, *YOU'RE GONNA DIE.* Which is ridiculous (unless you're a lawmaker, or being threatened by those wielding violent power, like cops or muggers), because words alone don't threaten the life of a human; it's these trigger words, these Big Red Panic Buttons in our minds, that set off a reactivity chain reaction in other people who don't have that emotional resiliency or aren't experienced in critical thinking. If you wish to continue holding beliefs that can be classified as "right-wing," I personally do not agree with your beliefs and I will vote against them in elections and debate, but I'm fine with the act of you merely having them, because at the stage of merely having them, they alone don't threaten my life as somebody slowly becoming anti-capitalist/pro-socialist. But I can only ask that you keep in mind that, when you hear a left-wing, debunk-able opinion, the deliverers of those ideas are trying to deliver them in good faith, only challenging your held beliefs, not trying to literally control your life or your identity against your will *at the point of discussion.* Because after all, whether you re-examine your beliefs or double down on them is completely up to you - you are the one who wields power over yourself.
@DIVAD291
@DIVAD291 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly when I watch these videos basically none of the statements made surprise me or don't fall in line with what I assumed the left stood for. And I say that as someone who attacks the left quite often. So my suggestion is that perhaps you are making the same assumptions about the attacks the right are making.
@kacperz.3343
@kacperz.3343 5 жыл бұрын
No, that’s called breaking away from polarized thought into alternative narratives. In a pursuit of hopefully individualism, free though and criticism. I thought and did the exact same way towards right winged channels. To which I’ve now changed. I’m open to the whole weltanschauung now. I don’t particularly think I have a political label other than ‘filthy centrist’😂
@lornenoland8098
@lornenoland8098 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve used this to some success when arguing ideology and policy: “In my world, you and I both get to live and be free. In your world, you get to, but I do not. And that alone proves you cannot be right.”
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS 2 жыл бұрын
Many on the left lack the self-reflection to realize their ideology is authoritarian.
@mo-s-
@mo-s- Жыл бұрын
Imma pirate your idea
@SafavidAfsharid3197
@SafavidAfsharid3197 10 ай бұрын
Stupid logic because this logic depend on your individual perception.
@endloesung_der_braunen_frage
@endloesung_der_braunen_frage 9 ай бұрын
​​@@SafavidAfsharid3197 is it just my subjective to believe that non white people cannot exist in a truly Nazi State? Beacause thats an objective statement of fact
@kittypeanut4102
@kittypeanut4102 8 ай бұрын
​@@SafavidAfsharid3197 does it?
@josephgraff8671
@josephgraff8671 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's particularly interesting how the "Oh, I understand ... it's Wednesday" moment was accompanied by the very British and very benign gesture of tapping one's nose to suggest understanding a thing that's been subtly said, when at the same time, drawing attention to a person's nose is a dog-whistly way of suggesting that they are Jewish. It's a layer of additional meaning that I'm not even sure was intended.
@koarta7324
@koarta7324 4 жыл бұрын
Wow I hadn't realized 0-0
@thmsnrth
@thmsnrth 3 жыл бұрын
"If I were to break into the House of Commons and make my views known very loudly with a lot of swearing, I would expect to be shut down." *side-eyes the American Capitol Building*
@cornuschristi1814
@cornuschristi1814 3 жыл бұрын
Aged like fine wine
@noabsolutelynot1665
@noabsolutelynot1665 3 жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY
@amrokas
@amrokas 3 жыл бұрын
but if you are in antifa's side you can set a courthouse on fire and it's still not considered as terrorism. And there I was thinking that attack on federal buildings is a terrorism. Silly me.
@wesleywyndam-pryce5305
@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 3 жыл бұрын
@@amrokas that is silly, thats not the definition at all.
@amrokas
@amrokas 3 жыл бұрын
@@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 really? Antifa exploded a pipe bomb at a court house in Portland this summer? Where's the outcome? Antifa set a courthouse on fire few weeks ago. Who is talking about antifa's acts of terror? CHOP was a terrorism because local residents were hold as hostages. Why is it only called terrorism when right does it?
@baltimore_runner3419
@baltimore_runner3419 4 жыл бұрын
"Also here's a completely unrelated picture of some riot police" killed me
@suericata
@suericata 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunate choice of the word "killed"
@john-henryrabb3357
@john-henryrabb3357 2 жыл бұрын
"and here's a Hindu group in Boston whom antifa labelled as Fascist for being pro-free-speech, at which antifa then attacked a Black woman." Antifa = anti-capitalist Strasserites, POSING as anti-fash. They even beat up two Latino Marines, whilst the ALL WHITE "antifa" gang called them "b*aners" and "sp*cs". Strasserites hate Hitlerites, but Strasserites are 100% as much a part of the ORIGINAL Nazi Party as Hitler was, and 1920's "progressives" welcomed Strasserites into America (as part of Operation Paperclip, and more), whereupon Soros and other Strasserites joined Dem Party and subverted it from within. Who was Margaret Sanger, what was her relationship with Hitler, and why does the "liberal, (supposedly) anti-racism" Dem Party still give tax dollars to her RACIAL EUGENICIST org today? What was George Bernard Shaw's relationship with Hitler, and was he left or right? Is he still accepted by leftist professors today? What was "progressive" president Woodrow Wilson's relationship with the KKK? PROGRESSIVES, more than any other Dem Party faction, combine racism and socialism, just as the original Strasserite Nazis did. They still do, trapping Blax into self-destruction, just as SANGER said she admired how Hitler used "Kapos" and "Judenratten" to trap Jews into self-destruction. ...Hillary "I'll only talk to WHITE people" Clinton then called Sanger her "hero".
@heatherrockwell9012
@heatherrockwell9012 2 жыл бұрын
That "I love you" comparison is incredibly useful! It's always been hard for me to articulate that.
@letzplay8869
@letzplay8869 4 жыл бұрын
Aaaaand this video is relevant once again
@AtomicBananaPress
@AtomicBananaPress 4 жыл бұрын
@Robert Allan and we are all the worse for it.
@victorialevett3221
@victorialevett3221 4 жыл бұрын
BAHAHAHA it’s a pleasure to be back
@MH-hv1gf
@MH-hv1gf 4 жыл бұрын
@Robert Allan uh oh the Nazis are fighting
@sudarshanramaswamy7529
@sudarshanramaswamy7529 4 жыл бұрын
Declaring "AntiFa" a terrorist organization = Declaring "Hitler" as the Father of United States of America
@ometta7
@ometta7 4 жыл бұрын
@@MH-hv1gf Does anyone have popcorn?
@reesesapphire267
@reesesapphire267 6 жыл бұрын
i think you just ruined the "it is wednesday, my dudes" meme for me
@rushyscoper1651
@rushyscoper1651 5 жыл бұрын
@@usrfriendly nice profile name. Linux rule.
@sebastianioanpop3895
@sebastianioanpop3895 5 жыл бұрын
Today is Thursday
@1414TTT
@1414TTT 4 жыл бұрын
Oh no, my world view, its widening.
@JesseP.Watson
@JesseP.Watson 4 жыл бұрын
How very presumptious of you.
@tora9915
@tora9915 4 жыл бұрын
The conservatives aren’t gonna like this one 😳
@Angenga
@Angenga 4 жыл бұрын
@Jonas Savimbe very brave of you to look for a brain in these comments
@anthonytom-duyquang3558
@anthonytom-duyquang3558 4 жыл бұрын
@Jonas Savimbe Pointing out where this video is misleading is a good start after you have watched the whole video of course.
@HorstEwald
@HorstEwald 4 жыл бұрын
@@anthonytom-duyquang3558 He said " Soros buck communist antifa" xD xD xD SUCH COOL WORDS. Totally destroyed us with that line.
@marnixebbelaar3152
@marnixebbelaar3152 Жыл бұрын
It's funny how I discovered this channel through it's new content and now I have to watch this old videos made by a completely different person, only to realize they are in fact, the same person. Absolute slay.
@samilentrau1324
@samilentrau1324 Жыл бұрын
I first thought this was a guest speaker....
@michaelbates4926
@michaelbates4926 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the "today is Wednesday" analogy, and how you used a high pitched noise when it popped on screen to represent a dog whistle, that was damn clever
@MultiBunnyhunter
@MultiBunnyhunter 3 жыл бұрын
doesn’t take much to impress you
@rusty3073
@rusty3073 3 жыл бұрын
@@MultiBunnyhunter Sometimes its the little things that a matter to us
@bobgrubbs892
@bobgrubbs892 3 жыл бұрын
I like when he says”I’ll teach you more about White Supremacy later.” I bet he says that a lot.
@Chloroxite
@Chloroxite 2 жыл бұрын
I personally hated it because of the high pitch noise.
@freeradical5535
@freeradical5535 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chloroxite I thought I had tinnitus.
@maiyenish8552
@maiyenish8552 4 жыл бұрын
18:35 The reason why the anarchists, communists, and others band together to be antifa is: Martin Niemoller long version poem is: First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me
@stellathomas5541
@stellathomas5541 4 жыл бұрын
We talked about this in my history class today in the context of imperialism.
@maiyenish8552
@maiyenish8552 4 жыл бұрын
@@stellathomas5541 Which University is spinning the above poem, which is about totalitarianism?
@alexanderd6793
@alexanderd6793 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, but why are they banding together to attack?
@Huntracony
@Huntracony 3 жыл бұрын
Although I agree with the cause, I am so unconvinced by these kinds of slippery slope arguments. Being opposed to communism, though it's very foolish, is a long shot away from wanting to yeet everyone to your political left, just like opposing fascism does not mean you want everyone to the political right of Sanders to be lynched. The reason all of those band together as antifa is because, for all of their differences, they all agree that fascism is bad.
@Majorbrownfinger
@Majorbrownfinger 3 жыл бұрын
Fascism is probably the most overused word ever.
@maybesomedayknown
@maybesomedayknown 4 жыл бұрын
"Anyone who wears a mask in public is bad...here's a completely unrelated picture of some riot police." 2020 in a nutshell.
@r32guy85
@r32guy85 4 жыл бұрын
@Kerosin Fuchs finally someone with a brain
@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei
@Kuhmuhnistische_Partei 4 жыл бұрын
@Kerosin Fuchs If you want a monoethnic country with a single skin tone, a single static culture, a single language, no refugees and no antifascists, anarchists, anti-patriotic socialists or SJW's and with a lot of nationalism, militarist parades and a big wall for you safety, you go to North Korea!
@lost1ns0und
@lost1ns0und 4 жыл бұрын
@Kerosin Fuchs as if North Korea is Communist lol
@liamnugent5886
@liamnugent5886 4 жыл бұрын
@@lost1ns0und lol yeah
@lost1ns0und
@lost1ns0und 4 жыл бұрын
@@liamnugent5886 hm?
@therainbowwillow4453
@therainbowwillow4453 3 жыл бұрын
38:27 Thank you for the critical mention of pacifism! I’m a pacifist anarchist (or an anarcho-pacifist) and it is extraordinarily important to bring up the fact that being passive and being pacifist are not the same. Assertive pacifism with direct, non-violent action through protest, education, and community aid is certainly not just sitting around and being passive. The state *is* violence and opposing it is peace. While I don’t believe that opposing state violence with violence is going to protect us from state violence, I also don’t believe we can simply sit by and let ourselves be hurt. Stand up, take action, and stay as peaceful as possible.
@christinaapplesauce2459
@christinaapplesauce2459 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently burning buildings is very anti fascist.
@miotyuori7331
@miotyuori7331 2 жыл бұрын
pacifist anarchist, whahahahahahahahaha looking at how soft your face is I bet you actually believe in this bullshit. I won't be doing anything to you, but I most certainly will grab my pop corn while i watch other people feed you to their dogs.
@therainbowwillow4453
@therainbowwillow4453 2 жыл бұрын
@@miotyuori7331 this comment has caused me to decide to shoot my boss. Ty.
@NukerOfFace
@NukerOfFace 5 жыл бұрын
Was watching this on my way to work, I work at a school in Japan and it happened to be a Wednesday, one of the teachers started to say “today is ....” then paused to remember the word, I helped and said “today is Wednesday” to which she responded “ohhh, today is Wednesday”. Now we are both facist.
@thatssofetch3481
@thatssofetch3481 4 жыл бұрын
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@skyclaw
@skyclaw 4 жыл бұрын
@@thatssofetch3481 Watch the video and all will be explained.
@xaagripha7326
@xaagripha7326 4 жыл бұрын
I think your just into nazi-chic its alittle bit different and no where as Innocent. In fact real facist have to attend Berkley university to be a real facist other wise your just one of thouse poor kids.
@oliviabrooks7861
@oliviabrooks7861 4 жыл бұрын
@@xaagripha7326 lmao
@DjNic11
@DjNic11 6 жыл бұрын
I'm okay with the Iraq war falling under the label of terrorism.
@Molotov49
@Molotov49 5 жыл бұрын
I'm more than okay with that.
@parker435
@parker435 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's accurate.
@Odinsday
@Odinsday 5 жыл бұрын
I mean... I thought it was a fact?
@emmathestonedspider8676
@emmathestonedspider8676 5 жыл бұрын
I'm fine with labeling the US military as terroristic
@1234q-q8x
@1234q-q8x 5 жыл бұрын
I'm also okay with calling police terrorists.
@Xidnaf
@Xidnaf 7 жыл бұрын
that dogwhistle effect around 55:00 was neat and all but ouch
@Jenny-zu6nm
@Jenny-zu6nm 7 жыл бұрын
oh shit, its Xidnaf! good to see our leftist indocrination reaching so many great youtubers
@slvsq
@slvsq 7 жыл бұрын
I LOVE YOU XIDNAF
@KManAbout
@KManAbout 7 жыл бұрын
Lol
@paperbackwriter1111
@paperbackwriter1111 7 жыл бұрын
K Man Why use the echoes? Like, it seems ironic here, but why?
@slvsq
@slvsq 7 жыл бұрын
it'd be /ourguy/ normally
@Nikigettingbetter
@Nikigettingbetter Жыл бұрын
As certain as I am that you will never read this comment, I just wanted to say that as a bearded lady myself, I can clearly see your femininity even in these older videos where you’re hiding it :) thank you for being a source of not only excellent entertainment, but also inspiration!
@Nikigettingbetter
@Nikigettingbetter Жыл бұрын
Here again at the end of the video, I wanted to add a note on the actual content, this video was very informative and well organized, but I couldn’t help but notice the lack of discussion on how facists marry religion and politics and what antifa does/can do about it. This is particularly an issue in present day USA, and was a core part of the rise of the Nazis.
@jacksonhoppis
@jacksonhoppis 4 жыл бұрын
'Not all anti-fashists wear masks' - Pre-2020 Olly
@shuheihisagi6689
@shuheihisagi6689 4 жыл бұрын
Not to ruin the joke but you misspelled facists
@theblandcharlie822
@theblandcharlie822 4 жыл бұрын
@Sundered Soul "They're face ists!!"
@coaxill4059
@coaxill4059 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, they're the only ones who have proven themselves resistant to Trump's propaganda, and of course the only reason for a person not to wear a mask during covid is if they're an always Trumper. (Certain medical issues are an exception here)
@Mish844
@Mish844 3 жыл бұрын
@@theblandcharlie822 facism is called facism cuse face is the place - it's really punchable ideology, as demonstrated by Richard S.
@coaxill4059
@coaxill4059 3 жыл бұрын
​@San Cambly I think that's the funniest thing thus far commented on this video! Thanks for that man, stay legendary.
@FieldMarshalFry
@FieldMarshalFry 6 жыл бұрын
"actually it's Police Service now, Police Force was deemed too aggressive" - Sgt. Nicholas Angel
@roryt9751
@roryt9751 6 жыл бұрын
Yarp!
@egirlSkeletor
@egirlSkeletor 6 жыл бұрын
Hot Fuzz is a superb critique of the police state and American glorification of police violence. The entire end setpiece is an action scene where the police don't kill a single person, then fill out paperwork and operate within due process. Angel leans towards de-escalation when possible. Every allusion to cop flicks is critical.
@dnys_7827
@dnys_7827 6 жыл бұрын
@@egirlSkeletor admittedly, i watched hot fuzz a couple years ago, before my political views began evolving and before being introduced to radical criticism of the police. from my half-remembered vandage point it seems like a half-critical, half-apologetic depiction: sure enough there's problems, but there's a way to fix them from within the existing system. I'm interested both in whether that was the intended meaning and in whether we could do an oppositional reading that reads hot fuzz as somehow more radical than it was meant to be, and what that might look like. not that I'm in prime position to do that without watching it again though haha. any thougths?
@tricky778
@tricky778 6 жыл бұрын
@@j.b.aw.6968 the death cult is a true reflection of the inner desires of the neighbourhood-watch class. Any crime including crimes against humanity are justified by such people to maintain a caricature living environment. For example, demanding that a mere civil tort even before judgement should be punished by literal life imprisonment with neither parole nor even ample space to walk and exercise.... I'm not even joking.
@Advent3546
@Advent3546 5 жыл бұрын
@@tricky778 well he murdered Bill Shakespeare
@violetsapphire952
@violetsapphire952 5 жыл бұрын
That "Free speech does not guarantee you freedom from consequences criticism or protest, because those are, in fact, forms of free speech." was a beautifully succinct summary and needs to be on posters all over the everywhere. (edited for summery -> summary)
@frankatwood3095
@frankatwood3095 5 жыл бұрын
*Government puts you in jail for political reasons* Leftist: "Free speech does not guarantee you freedom from consequences"
@violetsapphire952
@violetsapphire952 5 жыл бұрын
​@@frankatwood3095 Not what is meant. Neither you, nor I, support the idea that the government should be able to put you in prison for what you say... in fact, that's specifically what Freedom of Speech **IS** supposed to protect you from... that's the whole point. The "Consequences" that it doesn't protect you from is the things you say changing the way other people treat you. When someone says something that causes other people to be outraged and boycott that person or organisation, THAT'S consequences and not a violation of the human right to free speech. When someone says something that the state doesn't like and the state punishes/silences them for it, THAT is a violation of the human right to free speech.
@frankatwood3095
@frankatwood3095 5 жыл бұрын
@GOOGLE ACOUNT Free speech is in relation to society, it is not limited to the government.
@frankatwood3095
@frankatwood3095 5 жыл бұрын
@@violetsapphire952The government placing people in jail for speech is just a consequence though. You were still free to speak in the first place, just not free from the consequence.
@violetsapphire952
@violetsapphire952 5 жыл бұрын
@@frankatwood3095 Sure, if you want to think that way. I don't.
@TransSappho
@TransSappho Жыл бұрын
I always feel a bit guilty rewatching one of Abigail’s pre-transition videos, but I find this video in particular to be an especially useful pedagogical tool that I can’t help but keep sending it to people
@ElWarto93
@ElWarto93 Жыл бұрын
Why is that? Why would you judge the work of somebody differently based on their gender identity?
@TransSappho
@TransSappho Жыл бұрын
@@ElWarto93 I think you’re misunderstanding what I’m saying. Some trans women, myself included, feel uncomfortable with people seeing us pre-transition. I’m not sure whether she’s left this video up because she’s comfortable with that, or if she’s done so because she believes the video’s importance outweighs that discomfort. Since I’m not sure which is the case, I feel a tad guilty at the possibility that the latter is true and that I send this video to people often
@dysmissme7343
@dysmissme7343 Жыл бұрын
⁠@@TransSappho I deal with this by determining that if she left it up bc the important of the video outweighs her discomfort than it undoubtedly should do the same for me Like it’s a choice for her to make and she’s made it, we may as well make it ever more worthwhile by watching it and sharing it so that it’s impact is as great as it can be And this video IS important 💜
@ElWarto93
@ElWarto93 Жыл бұрын
I kinda get where you are coming from but I still think that you should not feel guilty for sharing this video. Like you said, she kept the video up, so apparently she is probably fine with people seeing her pre-transition. The message of this video is still valid, which is what counts, in my opinion. Then again, I (as a Cit-Het man) unfortunately don't know many trans people. So I am kinda curious: do trans people look at their work differently when they produced it in their pre-transition phase of their life? Or do you can distance yourself from the fact that you wrote something as a man and not a woman? Be sure, I don't want to offend you or any other trans person, I am genuinely curious. You don't have to answer if this is a touchy subject for you.
@ohey2847
@ohey2847 Жыл бұрын
​@@ElWarto93 hey man im not sure if you're still looking for a response but I appreciate you asking so politely. I think this varies among trans people. For me (trans man), looking at videos of myself pre-transition is kinda like how someone would look back at themselves after they grew out of their cringey teenager phase. Like "oh I used to do those things and dress that way but im a different person now" type deal. I used to make a lot of videos of myself singing, It feels weird thinking that back when i made those vids, i didnt have the same perspective on my gender as I do now. And looks wise, I've changed so much since coming out that it just feels weird seeing that I used to be a guy that wore dresses and had such a high voice. Ultimately I still see them as my videos that I made, but they were made in a phase of my life i have grown out of and no longer identify with.
@greenleafwater
@greenleafwater 5 жыл бұрын
"restoring past glory to make a glorious future" in other words... making their country great again??
@Wyrdangus
@Wyrdangus 5 жыл бұрын
@King of the Chair "Self hate and Marxist institutions" When making sweeping statements like that, one should be far more specific. When saying that someone's "premises are either inaccurate or suffer from Ivory Tower perspective", one should provide examples and reasoning behind the statement.
@MrElionor
@MrElionor 5 жыл бұрын
@King of the Chair I am not a racist so I don't hate myself
@ghostlip1
@ghostlip1 5 жыл бұрын
That's why he said it,
@BIONICLECLAYPOKEMON
@BIONICLECLAYPOKEMON 5 жыл бұрын
@King of the Chair Have you, perhaps, considered that _you_ are misinformed, instead? 🤔
@tonycampbell1424
@tonycampbell1424 5 жыл бұрын
@King of the Chair Even more wrong than before. Not sure I'd be proud of that one, my dude.
@emilyoswin3830
@emilyoswin3830 6 жыл бұрын
Like 90% sure most of these commenters read the title, watched about 10 seconds of the video and commented something the video debunked
@Mr8lacklp
@Mr8lacklp 6 жыл бұрын
ngc4594 well it isn't. While there maybe revolutionary communists that are also antifascist that is not a requirement and the goal of antifascism isn't revolution.
@kenabbott8585
@kenabbott8585 6 жыл бұрын
I washed more than 10 seconds, but it was clear from the start that the speaker was lying through his teeth. I don't have to watch all two hours of a flat-earth video or a Vitamin-C-Cures-Everything video to know I won't find any facts in them either--once they explain that I'm not really a Christian if I refuse to accept that the "Round-Earth Theory" is a Satanist plot, I can hit the pause button and go back to listening to music without any worries. And at least Flat-Earthers and Pauling's acolytes aren't advocating a system based on hatred and envy that caused more than 100 million deaths. (Amusingly, I have better debates with flat-earthers than with socialists. Sure, they occasionally delve into ad hominems or psycho-analyzing, and they'll often jump to hilariously wrong conclusions mixed with a stubborn refusal to understand metaphors--but they're also more likely to try to put together a logical argument (even though they fail) or try to cite science (even when they badly misquote it, like Michaelson-Morley), but they're far, far less likely to devolve into schoolyard name-calling, vicious personal attacks, absolute water-is-not-wet lies, or I--know-you-are-but-what-am-I trolling.)
@tristanneal9552
@tristanneal9552 6 жыл бұрын
@@kenabbott8585 I would argue that you _do_ need to watch all two hours of a flat earther's video if you want to be able to say that everything in the video is wrong or bullshit or a lie. Otherwise, you're just baselessly saying it is because the world view you held before you watched the video disagrees. You can argue against specific things when they're presented to you and you can voice that you disagree with someone's position based on what you know of the subject, but you can't criticize a specific argument if you haven't listened to the argument in full.
@kenabbott8585
@kenabbott8585 6 жыл бұрын
@@tristanneal9552 I would argue that you have a lot more free time than I do.
@DeoMachina
@DeoMachina 6 жыл бұрын
@@kenabbott8585 Alright, pick me one lie from the video. Your favourite.
@polymphus
@polymphus 5 жыл бұрын
Hey man, This video came up on my dash the other day, at almost exactly the same time that local fascists started a huge propaganda campaign: we're a uni town and there's stickers, flyers and posters all over the local campuses, just in time for the new crop of students to show up. I spent the day tearing them down, and getting the word out about it. It's been getting a real response, and other folks are going out there to help out. I'm not sure I would've done it without this video. I had this idea that Antifa meant black block throwing punches and I didn't know if that was something I had the courage for. Realising that it could be more low-key and domestic was super cool: I tore down posters, and I did some organising. It wasn't exciting or glamorous, but it felt like good praxis and maybe it'll stop some impressionable kid going down the wrong path. I did antifascism, and it's because of you. Thanks, Olly!
@thescopedogable
@thescopedogable 5 жыл бұрын
be careful when taking down there posters and stickers sometimes the fascist put razor blades behind the paper wear gloves
@thenorthowl2033
@thenorthowl2033 5 жыл бұрын
Yep tear down those posters, wouldn't want someone to do a wrongthink now would you.
@thenorthowl2033
@thenorthowl2033 5 жыл бұрын
@@thescopedogable That was an antifa false flag. The its okay to be white campaigns explicitly state not t o do anything illegal.
@slowburgundyy574
@slowburgundyy574 5 жыл бұрын
@@thenorthowl2033 lol fuck off Fascist
@gadrill4285
@gadrill4285 5 жыл бұрын
@@thenorthowl2033 Interesting that you bring that up, given fascism's history of actual censorship.
@cryo311
@cryo311 Ай бұрын
the big problem with people using the phrase “peaceful protest” to compare it to current protests is that it implies that the powerless should only have rights with the permission of the powerful, which is a pretty racist opinion
@strangejune
@strangejune Ай бұрын
Bingo! The line drawn on what counts as violence is a tool the government uses. Police killings aren't violent because the government did it. Antifa is violent because the government didn't do it.
@jwmcq
@jwmcq 3 жыл бұрын
"if I were to break into the house of commons and make my criticisms of the British government very loudly with a lot of swearing then I would expect to be shut down" ... This sentence has not aged well in 2021.
@globalhumanism
@globalhumanism 3 жыл бұрын
It's aged perfectly well, if you're referring to the murderous fascist riot at the US capitol. The fascists breaking in there should have expected to be shut down there, too. But somehow ... they weren't. But most people agree that they should have been ... at least before anyone died. As much as I'm appalled by it, I hope that at least it illustrated the intrinsically violent nature of fascism that the video discussed to a much wider audience.
@seansully5242
@seansully5242 3 жыл бұрын
@futo nara Pretty sure they chanted that due to Pence not trying to overturn the election for 'Daddy Trump'. Guess you don't pay much attention to things that go against your view.
@pascalsmit8739
@pascalsmit8739 6 жыл бұрын
Not just does Hitler criticize socialism in 'My War,' but he also openly admits to using the term to appeal to a certain section of the working class. Of course, those who cry 'but nazism is socialism' are just really really in love with Wednesday, may have actually read the book, and don't really care either way.
@shlockofgod
@shlockofgod 6 жыл бұрын
He was generally referring to communist socialism.
@simonskrasts3642
@simonskrasts3642 6 жыл бұрын
mein kampf means my fight, not my war
@emilyoswin3830
@emilyoswin3830 6 жыл бұрын
Simons Krasts I believe it’s “my struggle”
@Ixiah27
@Ixiah27 6 жыл бұрын
So scumbags pretend to be Socialists when all they want is to be in Power ? How is this different from the left today ?
@WindspriteM
@WindspriteM 6 жыл бұрын
@@emilyoswin3830 "Kampf" can mean either fight or struggle in German depending on Kontext, you could even extend it to "battle" in some cases, for example we use "Kämpfe" to describe smaller scale fighting in the civil war in Syria.
@bdwhardy9680
@bdwhardy9680 6 жыл бұрын
"That's right The Reagan administration."
@johnnyscifi
@johnnyscifi 5 жыл бұрын
B D W Hardy Around the time of the Raegan administration a political pundit said something along the lines of "This country has gone so far to the right that you wont even be able to recognise it anymore..."
@CDexie
@CDexie 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyscifi It's RIDICULOUS how far right( no, not that "far" right) the political discourse in America has gone.
@communisttrash8590
@communisttrash8590 5 жыл бұрын
I thought it was bush with the whole doing 911 thing
@oisinryan150
@oisinryan150 5 жыл бұрын
Would have been nice if he had actually backed that up, at all
@pianoaddict772
@pianoaddict772 5 жыл бұрын
@@oisinryan150 he did with the example of sending support to Guatamala to support their fascists. The Dollop podcast covered it in their episode about George Bush Sr.
@TreeHairedGingerAle
@TreeHairedGingerAle 3 жыл бұрын
This is still one of the best essays I've ever seen. Every time I watch, I get something different out of it.
@lemondrizzlecake7766
@lemondrizzlecake7766 6 жыл бұрын
This was a very interesting video. I wonder if you gave any thought to how the term "antifascism" itself has different connotations in different places? I ask this because I am Italian, and when I think of antifascism I immediately think of the National Liberation Committee, WW2 and its immediate aftermath, and our Constitution. Antifascism, in fact, is one of the founding values of the Italian constitution, which was written immediately after WW2 by the antifascists of the time, who had just freed Italy from over 20 years of fascist regime with the help of the Allied forces. I'm saying this because, while Italy right now is in the mist of the right-wing populist uprisal, and some of the same debates happening in the anglosaxon world are all too present, I think it would be difficult to "shift the blame" on antifascists in some of the ways you discussed in the video. No matter your poitical leaning, it is generally accepted in Italy that antifascism is a "good thing" and that without it we wouldn't be the country we are today. I'd be interested in knowing your thoughts on this :)
@andrea-md6cm
@andrea-md6cm 6 жыл бұрын
è perché il loro "antifascism" non si traduce propriamente antifascismo (come da noi) ma "antifa", o meglio "antifascist action". Alcuni gruppi italiani stanno iniziando a prendere la denominazione anglosassone tedesca ma in realtà l'equivalente italiano di "antifa" è traducibile nel linguaggio mediatico come un misto tra "black block", "antagonisti" e "centri sociali", che sono tutte delle definizioni spicciole, ma purtroppo questo ci concede la comunicazione mediatica in italia.
@lemondrizzlecake7766
@lemondrizzlecake7766 6 жыл бұрын
@@andrea-md6cm Ma in parte stiamo dicendo la stessa cosa, ovvero che antifascismo significa cose diverse in italiano e in inglese. Perché é vero quello che dici, ma é anche vero che non c'é un significato di "antifascism" che sia wquivalente all'accezione nostra (che io sappia). Quanto ai black block ecc, lí non sono d'accordo, perché quelli sono gruppi di protesta non necessariamente legati al fascismo in alcun modo. Se guardi la voce "Antifa" su Wikipedia, per esempio, lo dice chiaramente: "The ADL makes a point that the label "antifa" should be limited to "those who proactively seek physical confrontations with their perceived fascist adversaries," and not be misapplied to include all counter-protesters."
@OfftopicStuff
@OfftopicStuff 5 жыл бұрын
O_o this is not at all the case in germany. i just realised from your comment that "antifa" could default to be of positive connotation; it absolutely is not here. it think that boils down to a few reasons (that i can think of right now): 1. the term has never been used the way you describe, historically. our values are not stated in opposition of anything, our first constitutional right reads "Human dignity shall be inviolable.", not "The state shall oppose anything that threatens to violate human dignity". in general, opposition often just doesn't vibe too well in our culture (my experience, as all this is), and there are many more or less directly hostile terms to denote opposition. 2. the biggest leftist party in germany today is in the eyes of many a more or less direct descendant from the SED, the only party in the east side of seperated germany, who oversaw among other things stasi surveillance. it is hard to find somebody who would have sympathy for the sed, and even harder to find somebody to openly say so. by proxy, many disregard the lefyist party here, as they see some figures from the sed (less and less over time of course, but the image sticks). As antifa is generally regarded as a leftist movement here (and in a feedback loop, it is more and more, as others dissociate), and so antipathy against left political actors bleeds over. 3. our press love to misrepresent/smear antifa protest (inhowfar it is their fault that this kind of stuff sells is debateable). headlines are even more sensationalist than usual, and that is not unique to tabloids, renowned publishers are often no better, except for their phrasing. so the general negative public image is often reinforced by headlines about a burning car rather than a manhunt against a migrant (well, the car likely belonged to a white middleclass person, which *could as well have been me*, or a lowerclass person who really needed it and who can now be further instrumentalised to argue that antifa hurts the little 'man' and that "we are here to really help you"). and sadly, whether any of what i said here holds any water, heavily right-wing politicians as a matter of fact are much more widely accepted here right now than even moderately left-wing ideas (relative to our center of course, so universal healthcare i.e. wouldn't count as leftist here).
@UserJWR
@UserJWR 5 жыл бұрын
@Jim P Fascists are still very real. Look at the Charlottesville riots, look at right-wing parties that are rising all across Europe. As the video states, they don't call themselves fascists or Nazis (for obvious reasons), but they repeat similar or even the same talking points while often relativizing fascist regimes and their actions. Also, as the video explains quite thoroughly, fascism is not purely defined by its stance on authoritarianism, neither are most antifascist movements. There are quite a lot of classical communists and tankies in Antifa movements, so it would not make sense to them to frame supporters of state and totalitarianism as fascists, just based on these qualities. TBH, everything you say is featured and discussed in the video, so I am just going to assume that either you did not watch it, that you did not understand it, or that you just don't care.
@UserJWR
@UserJWR 5 жыл бұрын
@@OfftopicStuff Yes, unfortunately the general German public has a weird stance on antifascism, especially since the G20 summit in Hamburg. Luckily, the German law and constitution features some built in measures against fascism and has a rather large consensus in the public, so I am not that worried about fascism becoming a real threat here anytime soon (even though I admit, the AfD looks really scary). But it is my experience that the public has a very strong stance against fascism (in my hometown the counterprotest against an AfD assembly was the biggest protest the city saw in the last 70 years I think). Unfortunately, Germany has a rather poor history with both fascism and left wing ideology (DDR and RAF) and centrist opinions dominate the political sphere, which ultimately helps fascism more than leftism or antifascist movements.
@paul9284
@paul9284 5 жыл бұрын
There are very few KZbin videos I've watched multiple times...this is one of them. While you are preaching to the choir with me, it remains just as engrossing on repeat viewings. With that said, it's the "Today is Wednesday" part that always sends chills through me. The insidious simplicity of it all, is remarkable. There are some brilliant content creators on KZbin that manage to educate and entertain. You sir, are most definitely one of them.
@ibecomhaire8724
@ibecomhaire8724 5 жыл бұрын
@casual complaints does he?
@sarahfunaki3884
@sarahfunaki3884 Жыл бұрын
I watch certain videos multiple times when i need to get aroused so i can masturbate
@AnthonyChinaski
@AnthonyChinaski 3 жыл бұрын
There aren’t enough times I can watch this and be bored of it. “Theory and Praxis”. Thanks Abby!
@billyallen4228
@billyallen4228 2 жыл бұрын
@trannyhealthczar9291ok bud
@sentionaut6270
@sentionaut6270 Жыл бұрын
My favorite Fox News lie is when they said antifa meant "anti-first amendment". And referred to antifa protesters as Biden supporters.
@kayleawilson
@kayleawilson 5 жыл бұрын
You do a fantastic job of being blunt and straightforward. As someone who is new to these arguments, I greatly appreciate your calling out of specific fascistic actions and “appeasements” as it had me suddenly realizing my own wrongs and shaking in my boots.
@Yet.Another.Rapper.KiG.V2
@Yet.Another.Rapper.KiG.V2 5 жыл бұрын
It must be very hard to come to terms with that. I know what it's like to belatedly realize your behavior was completely wrong. Did you want to share some of your personal experience?
@tellmeemoar8357
@tellmeemoar8357 5 жыл бұрын
Recently as my miniature antifa act I've been trying to get nazi symbolism out of my school's walls and furniture. I always carry hand sanitizer to get rid of sharpie writings and I've been annoying school faculty to patch up walls where there have been swastikas carved in (it worked!!) So far there has been some improvement! really glad that this video exists. :))
@genessab
@genessab 5 жыл бұрын
tellmeemoar that’s great! Maybe try joining local antifa social media groups too and see if you can help any other ways. Maybe reading some anti fascist literature at your local library or something too, I’m glad you’re so enthusiastic!
@martinarmenta835
@martinarmenta835 5 жыл бұрын
I think most of those swatsikas draw on high school or middle settings are done with little cognitive awareness on what it really was and are just trying to be edgy. Out of high school is a different thing though
@genessab
@genessab 5 жыл бұрын
Martin Armenta sure some may be edgy kids but what about when those kids grow up used to talking seriously about Nazis? And how do you know what is edgy and what if genuine nazi imagery? Why does it even matter their intentions, they’re still hate symbols?
@martinarmenta835
@martinarmenta835 5 жыл бұрын
Genessa again I said once out of high school it is completely different matter, by then one should be well aware of the atrocity that is fascism.
@genessab
@genessab 5 жыл бұрын
Martin Armenta you give too little credit towards high school students.
@seahorsemafia
@seahorsemafia 4 жыл бұрын
God the high pitched “dogwhistle” sound gives me shivers every time. I fear if things keep going along their current track in America we will start hearing the phrases in this video unironically. The first time I do I swear I’m gonna hear that sound and get those chills.
@KenCunkle
@KenCunkle Жыл бұрын
This is several years old at this point, but--if you can bear the expletive--it is totally fucking brilliant. Thank you so much for having recorded it and for keeping it available!
@ZIEMOWITIUS
@ZIEMOWITIUS Жыл бұрын
There's nothing brilliant about a book that drops the ball right at the starting line by failing to give the correct definition of Fascism and justifying violence against political opponents based off of the twisted definition that it espouses.
@CdcAmangely
@CdcAmangely 5 жыл бұрын
That "Oh, I get it. Today's Wednesday" sent chills down my spine.
@lukethedukea380
@lukethedukea380 5 жыл бұрын
I am confused, is he talking about the frog meme?
@etherloc7109
@etherloc7109 5 жыл бұрын
It is Wednesday my dudes
@ArgueWithTheMajority
@ArgueWithTheMajority 5 жыл бұрын
@@lukethedukea380 He's talking about all fascist code / dog whistles. That would include pepe.
@ArgueWithTheMajority
@ArgueWithTheMajority 5 жыл бұрын
@Jim P Your comment demonstrates to me, that we have very different views of the world and trying to address every single difference would be quite time consuming and simultaneously, unlikely to change your mind on anything. So instead, I'd find it very helpful if you could specifically point out the ill constructed arguments that irritate you in this video. If you could be more specific with your criticism of the points made, a contructive discussion would be more likely.
@stevencleere4912
@stevencleere4912 5 жыл бұрын
"Great Replacement" "What about White History Month" "I'm just a race realist/gender critical/rational skeptic" "I'm just proud of my heritage" "All Lives Matter" "I don't want to become a minority in my own country" T O D A Y I S W E D N E S D A Y
@charlotte-hanson
@charlotte-hanson 5 жыл бұрын
That literal dog whistle in the section about rebranding was a solid touch
@monstermonty9074
@monstermonty9074 5 жыл бұрын
@bearjew its literally a dog whistle didn't you know. Like an actual dog whistle, that only dogs can hear. A physical whistle you hold. LIteRaLlY
@Uturuncu
@Uturuncu 4 жыл бұрын
I got unnerved because I thought my tinnitus was getting worse and then it stopped and I realized what was going on. Hah. Clever.
@Yal_Rathol
@Yal_Rathol 4 жыл бұрын
not a fan. that hurt, and generally, causing pain to your audience is a negative.
@johannesvonmalos7505
@johannesvonmalos7505 4 жыл бұрын
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@oliviabrooks7861
@oliviabrooks7861 4 жыл бұрын
timestamp? im dumb lol
@DaveWasley
@DaveWasley 6 жыл бұрын
Aside from this being a great video...I don’t know if this is appropriate, but...I’m American with ADHD. I’ve got to commend Oliver, he’s got the most articulate pronunciation of any English speaker I’ve ever heard. Normally, prose-style speech can be difficult to follow for me, especially if it’s prolix and filled with the “um’s,” “ah’s,” and stammers that go along with extemporaneous speaking (paradoxically, I don’t usually have a problem understanding people with stammers or other speech impediments, because the uniqueness of it enables me to have a much easier time following along). I’m aware it’s edited and he’s reading/reciting from a script, but having recorded and edited my own speech, I know how difficult that can be, or at least it’s a skill that isn’t easily mastered. Cheers!
@83croissant
@83croissant 5 жыл бұрын
Diamondback Manhunter chalk it up to his experience in theater
@21irises
@21irises 3 жыл бұрын
This helped me put some internal debates to rest. Thank you Abby!
@juliehay
@juliehay 4 жыл бұрын
Thankyou so very much for this video, (I am a 70 year old female), I found it to be one of the best informative videos I have seen on the subject of Fascism and anti fascism. I know this video was in particular explaining Antifa, but I found it very helpful indeed as it (you) explains very clearly about how governments use the police, and a thousand other things I learnt from this great video, unfortunately I am a struggling pensioner and cannot donate any funds to this channel, but I have subscribed and will tell others, thankyou.
@Jcewazhere
@Jcewazhere 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being awesome :D
@Octopop2010
@Octopop2010 4 жыл бұрын
HayJulie! Loved your comment
@brynjames3779
@brynjames3779 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful! You never stop learning. Take care!
@Haispawner
@Haispawner 4 жыл бұрын
Grandma getting real educated. Glad to see this video reaches out to even you and people like you.
@suikim9194
@suikim9194 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome sister!
@Takkiebos
@Takkiebos 4 жыл бұрын
I love that you have a considerable bibliography on this. That shit's important!
@someguythatlookslikeme8306
@someguythatlookslikeme8306 4 жыл бұрын
i gotta agree. i love a guy who speaks legitly with sources. keep itt up bro!
@sofiasarmiento3822
@sofiasarmiento3822 4 жыл бұрын
@Lt col George Armstrong Custer he quoted a rightwing, dipshit
@sofiasarmiento3822
@sofiasarmiento3822 4 жыл бұрын
@Lt col George Armstrong Custer you didn't watch the video did ya? and your best argument it's to insult the left... curious
@sofiasarmiento3822
@sofiasarmiento3822 4 жыл бұрын
@Lt col George Armstrong Custer do you enjoy jumping to conclusions or is just you can't help it?
@sofiasarmiento3822
@sofiasarmiento3822 4 жыл бұрын
@Lt col George Armstrong Custer I'm just asking, why don't you chill a bit and try to explain yourself?
@andpeggy9626
@andpeggy9626 4 жыл бұрын
Well, this aged like a fine wine.
@kikiopeoluwaajayi21
@kikiopeoluwaajayi21 4 жыл бұрын
Social Media Lich watch the video
@turbonerdo6838
@turbonerdo6838 4 жыл бұрын
@Social Media Lich How can antifa be classified as a "terrorist organisation" when there exists no organisation called antifa?
@thethoughtcriminal7374
@thethoughtcriminal7374 4 жыл бұрын
WAZZA TELEVISION I’m seeing the “did you watch the video” response numerous times throughout the comments. I have debunked the “they aren’t a terrorist group” argument numerous times. And yes I watched the video. Twice. I will gladly debunk it again if you wish.
@roadkill8377
@roadkill8377 4 жыл бұрын
@@thethoughtcriminal7374 do it
@squarephantom661
@squarephantom661 4 жыл бұрын
Sean Donovan I can give you the names of the leaders of Al Queada, ISIS, The KKK, and multiple different Neo Nazi groups. I can give you lists of real life terrorist attacks done on their behalf that have ended the lives of countless people. I could even give you the list of know members names and their collaborators. Name a singular one of those for Antifa and maybe you would have a point.
@TransHippie
@TransHippie Жыл бұрын
This was the first Philosophy Tube video I watched, fully expecting that I was the leftmost overeducated white person with a van dyke who found themselves ill suited to life in academia, having given up on transition years before. I watched it when it dropped, my impending homelessness inevitable at that point. Every PhilosophyTube drop since has been eagerly awaited. I'm giving it a watch while doing my nails, getting ready to shoot my first KZbin video, right after I finish typing this comment. FTR: I'm a GenX trans woman who first cross identified at 3, faced "corrective" treatment that left me with cPTSD which I am only now, over the last 18 months since starting HRT, able to overcome and tell my story. I qualify for the DAR through my Dad's side, and Mom was born in Norway in 1943, a result of a pregnancy subject to NSDAP racial hygiene laws. I desisted, for a time. I'm done desisting.
@kaasknabbelaar9659
@kaasknabbelaar9659 10 ай бұрын
you are one tough damn soldier, keep on marching!
@meltingmug
@meltingmug 4 ай бұрын
Any update on that video?
@vazzaroth
@vazzaroth 5 жыл бұрын
Turns out, one of the 'best' ways to get people to accept genocide... is to work a situation where you think you were genocided first. This tactic has been used for centuries, but with War instead of Genocide.
@NIN0ID
@NIN0ID 5 жыл бұрын
Also where you think you're *about* to be genocided
@무군
@무군 5 жыл бұрын
What if you are (hypothetically speaking) a member of a minority group that has historically (or recently) been the target of attempted genocide by a dominant group? Does your group have the right to advocate for violence (and in extreme cases genocide) against the dominant group on the grounds of self preservation?
@jimkirk9890
@jimkirk9890 5 жыл бұрын
it also has been used a century ago, for genocides
@doru4248
@doru4248 5 жыл бұрын
Or to be paid by Soros.
@doru4248
@doru4248 5 жыл бұрын
@@무군 No it doesn't. Legitimate defense is when you are attacked, not when you have been attacked sometimes in the history.
@tpspeed
@tpspeed 3 жыл бұрын
It's really surreal to jump back to her older videos. This vid has been recommended enough to me that i decided to watch it
@HyacinthMedium
@HyacinthMedium 3 жыл бұрын
@futo nara no, its her.
@safala
@safala 2 жыл бұрын
Right? I have been avoiding her older videos just because it doesn't feel right (if you get what I mean) but I really wanted to learn about Antifa and as you said, it does feel surreal.
@superdrwholock
@superdrwholock 2 жыл бұрын
@@safala Ikr, it feels like I'm doing something inherently wrong, like intruding on her privacy but her videos have always been very educational and helpful to me, even the old ones
@dysmissme7343
@dysmissme7343 Жыл бұрын
It’s a great video
@MxChloeB42
@MxChloeB42 6 жыл бұрын
I know I started to fall down that rabbit hole. Once people like Thunderf00t and The Amazing Atheist started talking about SJWs and Feminism, I quickly found myself agreeing because "Free Speech" and "but what about", the Drunken Peasants Podcast started having guests like Sargon and what not, and I started subscribing to them, and I was quickly falling down the rabbit hole with no return in sight. Then I started to see how they reacted to LGBT people, especially Trans people, and I started to feel squicky. Then there was a lot of "Hillary must not win", and I went, yeah, I mean, she's not great, but ehh.... and then it came to "Trump isn't that bad" and I finally realized, these people aren't what I thought they were. I think it was actually HBomberGuy that got me starting to really reevaluate things, I had already discovered him awhile back because of his Fallout 3 video, and started looking for other videos, and then he started videos about feminism and things like that. Then I discovered /r/traaaaaaaans which lead me to ContraPoints and /r/CompleteAnarchy, which lead me to Shaun, which led me to this channel and so on and so forth.
@JackgarPrime
@JackgarPrime 6 жыл бұрын
In regards to your first paragraph, there's a good reason why Richard Spencer considers someone like Sargon of Akkad an "entry point" into white nationalism, as much as Karl himself would try to deny it.
@catcat22851
@catcat22851 6 жыл бұрын
I had an extremely similar journey. Looking back I am very lucky that I’ve found Channels like HBomberguy and that my path diverged from the Sargons, Thunderf00ts etc.
@TheLongBallofTheLaw
@TheLongBallofTheLaw 6 жыл бұрын
I had a similar journey, though I'm embarrassed to admit I'm in my late 30's and that it took me so long to to turn away from the "rationals".
@katrinal353
@katrinal353 6 жыл бұрын
Ironically, neither thunderf00t nor the amazing atheist, have said anything negative about lgbt, or positive about Trump. I wouldn't put TAA anywhere near the Sargon-type circlejerk at all, and TF has mostly dealt with the Anita Sarkeesian meme. The real rabbit hole is Sargon, which is essentially, as I'd call it, "chaotically conservative". I do think a lot of youtubers on "that side" suffer from PR just because of their association, and their clickbait, though. Tim Pool for example, while still reasonable in his opinions, his controversial clickbait draws in the right-wing circlejerk, and he kinda does that on purpose. Sargon, also used to be very "rational" but has devolved to being the definition of the circlejerk, and his audience has degenerated to the bottom of the barrel and that includes his content. Chris Ray Gun, which shouldn't even be mentioned here, because of his association with some of them, went from being considered a meme commentary channel, to a political right-wing commentary, by many, which is not at all what it is. It's so dumb, because all of them are massively different in their opinions and their goals. As I see it, the problem with that perception, is network effects, combined with clickbait, and ideological immigration from reactionary audiences, making you feel like you're in a tight clique, even noticing the groupthink. That's because many of those KZbinrs don't tend to dedicate videos to criticizing right/alt-right/fascist things, because either they agree, but also because, ironically, it's _too obvious_ that there's no point in criticizing something _so obviously_ bad as fascists. And hence, since they don't _explicitly_ promote different ideas, and associate with each other more closely, the ideological "immigrants" find a clique they can call their own, even if they're not. I don't even know why I'm typing all this, but I do feel that the network dynamics here, are not to be underestimated, and I don't want to see KZbinrs thought of differently to what they are.
@Lexender
@Lexender 6 жыл бұрын
So you changed one rabbit hole for another?
@mithrandirearendur1282
@mithrandirearendur1282 2 ай бұрын
About a year after this video came out I got into an argument with someone where they stated that I had to claim to be Antifa or I was a Nazi (or at least a Nazi-sympathizer, and they did state those were equivalent in their eyes). At the time I was really just starting to understand leftism and anti-fascism and while I opposed fascism (of course) I didn't believe I "was Antifa" because I myself hadn't done anything specifically anti-fascist, and specifically because I had stated that I was a pacifist ( I was still working on how I view violence with politics, this video was part of that). Because of this, this person pointed me to this video (which I had actually already partially watched) and said that if after I watched it I didn't claim to be Antifa I really was a Nazi. I ,upon re-watch this 5 or so years later, cannot understand why they were so stuck on this, when in the first 5 minutes of this video, Abby's brother ;), explains that it is not something you are, but something you do, and that it is extreme anti-fascism, not all who oppose fascism are antifa. I've come to really appreciate this video, for helping me understand my own understandings, both the political and the interpersonal.
@gabrielblyde2176
@gabrielblyde2176 4 жыл бұрын
The ringing gave me a headache, but the "today is Wednesday" bit is very clever indeed. Very nice video. I should show this to my dad.
@gabrielblyde2176
@gabrielblyde2176 4 жыл бұрын
Finished the video, and I must say, you put your arguments very well. Now, I am quite biased because I already agree with anti fascist beliefs, but I really like the points you made and the citations of your sources that brought the video together. Lovely stuff.
@sharlharmakhis280
@sharlharmakhis280 4 жыл бұрын
The ringing got me like 'crap, is my tinnitus acting up?' and then I paused the video and could only hear the usual ringing in my ears
@oldreprobate2748
@oldreprobate2748 4 жыл бұрын
If dad is a veteran remind him that that was the purpose of his military service. At least supposedly.
@Sealdrop
@Sealdrop 4 жыл бұрын
2020 oof
@trumpwon20204
@trumpwon20204 4 жыл бұрын
Bunch of losers in their mothers basement blaming everyone but themselves. Fascism="antifa"
@emceeunderdogrising
@emceeunderdogrising 4 жыл бұрын
^Fascist apologist warning.^
@vyalantfitts341
@vyalantfitts341 4 жыл бұрын
Convenient fake intellectuals just feed the losers the tactics and propaganda then disavow the results.
@vojislavl6665
@vojislavl6665 4 жыл бұрын
@@trumpwon20204 you the type to comment without watching the video, hey??
@trumpwon20204
@trumpwon20204 4 жыл бұрын
@@vojislavl6665 anything justifying anitifa will make the viewer less intelligent, so no I do not need to watch the video. Just like I dont need to watch broke back mountain to know it's about gay cowboys.
@nevergreen4219
@nevergreen4219 4 жыл бұрын
Getting real relevant right now.
@rosestrohm7986
@rosestrohm7986 4 жыл бұрын
Our president saying Antifa is the enemy of the state
@jakesmithsonian388
@jakesmithsonian388 4 жыл бұрын
@@rosestrohm7986 they sure are
@sassafras_rl
@sassafras_rl 4 жыл бұрын
@@jakesmithsonian388 well what state are you living in bc it sure isn't the real enemy in mine. XD
@Illumirage
@Illumirage 4 жыл бұрын
@@skabbigkossa passing off his opinion as fact, smoothe.
@jakesmithsonian388
@jakesmithsonian388 4 жыл бұрын
@@sassafras_rl CA
@thelonecustodes4344
@thelonecustodes4344 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if Abigail mentions it in the video, I've only just started watching, but, before I forget, if you're interested in understanding how to identify fascism, I'd recommend reading Umberto Eco's "Ur-Fascism", written by a man who grew up under Mussolini's Italy
@pauledchampion
@pauledchampion 3 жыл бұрын
this is genuinely a masterpiece, abby. the part at the end where you lead us down to the intended plan of fascism is incredibly well done, and the tinnitus dogwhistle effect caused me pain in such a succinct way. congratulations :)
@bemotivated8443
@bemotivated8443 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I always thought people saying that antifa is just an ideal it’s so stupid if antifa is just an ideal so is white supremacy why was it just an ideal that put Andy Ngo in the hospital? And how is his book fascist it’s simply explains Antifa much better than this video does
@pauledchampion
@pauledchampion 3 жыл бұрын
@@bemotivated8443literally had a stroke reading that comment 👍 better luck next time!
@olivermorin3303
@olivermorin3303 3 жыл бұрын
@@pauledchampion I believe he was attempting to promote self-styled journalistic martyr Andy Ngo, who wrote a book complaining about how many people hate him and blaming it all on antifa instead of his own inflammatory views.
@user-go3jv8rw7i
@user-go3jv8rw7i 3 жыл бұрын
@@bemotivated8443 antifa is just an idea. the same way white nationalism is an idea. there are some organised antifa groups and there are some white nationalist groups. what are you talking about. and no, Andy Ngos book doesn’t explain antifa better then this video does, his book tells you what you want to hear
@VLQL
@VLQL 5 жыл бұрын
The « it is Wednesday my dudes » meme just took a whole new look
@katherinemorelle7115
@katherinemorelle7115 5 жыл бұрын
Are we wearing pink?
@Vaith
@Vaith 5 жыл бұрын
😳
@safruj5964
@safruj5964 4 жыл бұрын
Idk if it’s my tinnitus acting up but the dog whilstly sound you hear when you see “today is Wednesday “ is a nice touch
@LampjePockelé
@LampjePockelé 9 ай бұрын
27:45 this hit home for me. I'm disabled, trans, gay and in an interracial relationship. (I know i'm winning the opression olympics). Whenever someone pretends that my ideology is as much as a choice as a fascists or neonazi is, I feel so powerless because there is a fundamental misunderstanding. I may be able to hide my trans and/or gayness, i can't hide my disability, my partner can't hide his race. We have way less choices and none of them guarantee our safety.
@LampjePockelé
@LampjePockelé 9 ай бұрын
56:45 in Belgium this tactic is often used by not differentiating between different kinds of immigration. We have a huge influx of people from the Netherlands and France each year. It's because we have 3 official languages, of which 2 are widely used (french and dutch). You can also navigate our society quite easily if you only speak English. However, when a white dutch person immigrates to Belgian they are obviously still an immigrant and can be used in immigrant statistics. There was a widely spread headline that said 'more then 50% of babies born in a big city have at least one non-belgian parent'. This makes it sound like 50% of babies are biracial, while in fact the vast majority were white but just had a dutch, french, british or even german parent.
@osint_runner
@osint_runner 4 ай бұрын
“Oppression “
@niahpolitan
@niahpolitan 4 жыл бұрын
I remember reading in my Abnormal Psychology textbook that in the early 1900s, the mentally ill in the United States were forcefully sterilized to prevent them from "breeding" which made me take a step back and realize that I was never once taught this in school and I was only ever taught that the United States were (almost) always the good guys. Eugenics has a deep rooted history in America and it's terrifying.
@emdadahmed5592
@emdadahmed5592 4 жыл бұрын
@@fuckamericanidiot explains the zero IQ smooth brain that you have :-)
@topicalturtle8685
@topicalturtle8685 4 жыл бұрын
**literally one bad thing happens over 100 years ago** People like you: "OH MY GOD IT'S GOT A DEEP ROOTED HISTORY, IT'S EVERYWHERE YOU'RE JUST TOO BLIND TO SEE IT!" **puts on tinfoil hat** Not everything is a conspiracy, yes, bad things happened 100 years ago. That doesn't mean it happens now, does it
@SadistModeOn
@SadistModeOn 4 жыл бұрын
The OP was not just talking about not being taught a specific thing, but also the whole "flawless good guy America" narrative. If we want something dangerous I was specifically taught, I was taught the Civil War started as a fight over "states' rights". At least slavery was still mentioned as a bad thing.
@topicalturtle8685
@topicalturtle8685 4 жыл бұрын
@@SadistModeOn For sure, that's a bad thing to be taught, but it's not like the abolition of slavery was the only thing that sparked the civil war, it was more federalism vs confederalism, bear in mind that the states weren't united at this point, and yet Lincoln, who only won in some of the states, had the ability to exert control over all of the other territories that hadn't even become states yet, and couldn't actually vote to my knowledge. So it always seems pretty disingenous to suggest that it was a bunch of whites trying to keep slavery that triggered the civil war, it was really more just their percieved lack of democratic input that led to them to rebel
@anarchyintheusa4443
@anarchyintheusa4443 4 жыл бұрын
@@topicalturtle8685 wdym the states "weren't united" we had a literal constitution that created a centralized federal government. It was infact over the states rights to own slaves. The country had been compromising on the slavery issue for years at that point and southern states had threaten to leave if a Republican had been elected because of the Republican stance on slavery. This historical revisionist bullshit is exactly why there's rioting. White people want so bad to forget our past transgressions and the effects they have today.
@fullmetaltheorist
@fullmetaltheorist 4 жыл бұрын
Razor blades in posters? What kinda world do we live in?
@carrion1234
@carrion1234 4 жыл бұрын
hiding razorblades under nazi stickers has been a thing for decades. nothing new but indubitably screwed up. always use a scraper. ;)
@milomccollum7030
@milomccollum7030 4 жыл бұрын
a divided one :/
@sekritdokumint9326
@sekritdokumint9326 4 жыл бұрын
It's actually true.. after watching this video and some changing of my worldview from.. well.. facist to not facist.. i have strted doing antifacist work in my area and well.. he was right about these razor blades... watch out! And always use your keys!
@perchy22
@perchy22 4 жыл бұрын
@Guacamole Nigga Penis By itself it doesn't, but it is better than continuing fascist actions.
@milomccollum7030
@milomccollum7030 4 жыл бұрын
San Cambly luv did u even watch the video.
@ChristianDigginsIsAwesome
@ChristianDigginsIsAwesome 4 жыл бұрын
This has probably been said, but, a good depiction of the friend enemy distinction comes from Avatar: The Last Airbender S3E6 ~19m when Firelord Sozin comes to aid Avatar Roku in quelling a volcanic eruption, but ultimately Sozin ends up letting Roku die as that would further his politics
@pigeon1178
@pigeon1178 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! I never even thought of it like that. It really is perfect, because they were supposed to be childhood best friends too
@johannsebastianbach3411
@johannsebastianbach3411 4 жыл бұрын
The more I watch that show the more I realize how great it was. It covered so many topics in a way that a kid could understand them: war, corruption, imperialism, loyalty, poverty, trrsm, etc...
@johannsebastianbach3411
@johannsebastianbach3411 4 жыл бұрын
@Adolf Schinkler Yet LoK goes about it in a neoliberal way, which i didn't like :(
@johannsebastianbach3411
@johannsebastianbach3411 4 жыл бұрын
@Adolf Schinkler Adolf, bro, it has been a long time since I watched it :D So perhaps I am just projecting my lower levels of enjoyment for LoK due to all the ideological inconsistencies and the worse screenwriting quality compared to atla and jump to the conclusion that it wasn't as progressive as atla :P, I gotta watch the whole thing again to adequately answer your comment :D Also, I am a composer, I can't spend time watching atla and lok all day, I have cantatas to compose :D
@ChristianDigginsIsAwesome
@ChristianDigginsIsAwesome 4 жыл бұрын
Johann Sebastian Bach did you hear what recently hit netflix
@dlisetteb
@dlisetteb 2 жыл бұрын
Today is a special in my country, argentina, we call it "memory day for truth and justice", it conmemorates the military usurpation of the goverment and rememorates the victims of such a dark period, with the aim of never ever repeat such a tragic process. And the youtube algorithm comforts my heart with this recomendation of your videos
@sterd1149
@sterd1149 4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe how under educated I was regarding this subject. I ran into an Antifa cell at my local university a few years back, but never really put much thought into the decentralized nature of local recruitment. I guess I passed judgment based on a few perceived assholes. Thanks for this video! You're quickly becoming one of my current favorite KZbinrs to watch!
@hihiz432
@hihiz432 4 жыл бұрын
@SandboxArrow if the disabled man is a fascist then I can’t find it in me to care. Unless you mean mentally?
@panosfasoul699
@panosfasoul699 3 жыл бұрын
But I thought "you can't join antifa"
@hihiz432
@hihiz432 3 жыл бұрын
@@panosfasoul699 You can’t. There isn’t an official president or treasurer. It’s just an ideology.
@panosfasoul699
@panosfasoul699 3 жыл бұрын
@@hihiz432 anti fascism is. Antifa has groups and you can join them, there's just no central organization for the whole world
@hihiz432
@hihiz432 3 жыл бұрын
@@panosfasoul699 no, antifa is just a movement. Similar to BLM. There aren’t any groups lmao
@RamónCarenga
@RamónCarenga 4 жыл бұрын
True story: I live in Latinoamérica and most of my family in every country has dealt with fascism on one way or another. Many Primos, Tios, and Abuelos actually joined revolucionario groups like Tupamaros or Zapatistas. And many of them that joined are dead. I one day want to be added to our Great Wall of revolucionarios, there is much fascism here and it is killing us
@mateohyland4089
@mateohyland4089 4 жыл бұрын
ninguno de los grupos revolucionarios del pasado esta libre de mugre, no los deifiques.
@RamónCarenga
@RamónCarenga 4 жыл бұрын
Mateo Hyland tienes razón, ninguno de los grupos revolucionarios estaba libre de mugre, sin embargo, lucharon por causas nobles como liberar al país de un dictador despiadado
@xaagripha7326
@xaagripha7326 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a wall built of skulls cemented by idealistic bullshit
@WizoIstGott
@WizoIstGott 4 жыл бұрын
Could you guys explain the concept of Primos , tios and abuelos? I know its used to characterize familiary relations but I don´t know which would be the equivalent in english.
@RamónCarenga
@RamónCarenga 4 жыл бұрын
WizoIstGott primo is cousin tío is uncle abuelo is grandparent. Switch the “o” to an “a” for a women
@melly_97
@melly_97 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched this video a few times now (I think it was my first Philosophy Tube video!!) and it just gets better each time. Thank you for making such great content for free!
@martinrose2668
@martinrose2668 3 жыл бұрын
The high pitch noise at about 55 minutes was the best way to bring me back to the tab while I was listening lol Thanks for this, helpful. I had many misconceptions about antifa because of how I've seen it being discussed....
@esc8engn
@esc8engn 5 жыл бұрын
@0:45 "the wednesday question" absolute mind blow. that so succinctly explains something i've never heard expressed, but always felt was there. so many rl implications. i'm going to have to re-watch the entire video. you make the things i tried to study in college so much more interesting. bless your heart.
@nyaj.2787
@nyaj.2787 4 жыл бұрын
This video absolutely hits the spot on May 30th, 2020 *Chef kisses*
@ComradeLavender
@ComradeLavender 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah. I've shared it with SO many people.
@drycleanernick7603
@drycleanernick7603 4 жыл бұрын
Black neighborhoods absolutely destroyed by white fascist “antifa” wearing masks. Suburbs are lookin fine 👀
@SamuraiPope
@SamuraiPope 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone in this country needs to watch this video. Make sure you share it!
@GOCRAZY3
@GOCRAZY3 4 жыл бұрын
Dry cleaner nick “anyone that does a bad thing is antifa. Evidence: uh, just take my word for it, guy on the internet, who definitely doesn’t have an axe to grind”
@drycleanernick7603
@drycleanernick7603 4 жыл бұрын
GOCRAZY3 I never said that anyone who does anything bad is antifa. But when there’s multiple videos of antifa stoking the flames of hatred and stirring up chaos... yeah that’s some evidence of antifa being bad
@martinpfefferle2558
@martinpfefferle2558 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite part is the literal dog whistle during dog whistles.
@jen4k2
@jen4k2 3 жыл бұрын
That really hurt.
@decim161
@decim161 3 жыл бұрын
This genuinely gave me permanent tinitus...
@FreedomIII
@FreedomIII 3 жыл бұрын
Watched this a full year after initially watching it and forgot about that particular section. Ow, my ears.
@sasentaiko
@sasentaiko 3 жыл бұрын
Last year, this was the first philosophy tube video I’d ever seen. Gave me so much to think about, a little theory to go with my praxis. On this rewatch, I noticed/learned: -The practical advice about avoiding razor blades in fascists’ signs 😱 (missed it somehow before) -the liberalism video series is mentioned at least 3 times, to explain why liberals inevitably usher in fascism -that HUNDREDS of anti fascist protestors from Trump’s inauguration were charged with FELONIES for wearing black (and meanwhile the violent white supremacist fascists are often getting only misdemeanors for storming the capitol on Jan 6) Speaking of which, the chills I got when I first saw the videos of the militant fascists (PBs? 3%ers?) In the Jan6 Capitol riot chanting “F*** Antifa” 😡🙅🏽
@Luke-id8ql
@Luke-id8ql 2 жыл бұрын
hahahahah wtf?
@tonycampbell1424
@tonycampbell1424 5 жыл бұрын
It's funny how we just got a primer on how to recognize and disregard propaganda in the video, and it is ALL OVER the comments section.
@SteveDala
@SteveDala 5 жыл бұрын
It’s good practise :)
@elcruzer5514
@elcruzer5514 4 жыл бұрын
IKR
@Fenriswaffle
@Fenriswaffle 4 жыл бұрын
@300bpm For the sake of my curiosity, in what way would you say it is propaganda? Would be nice to have concrete example/citations.
@SorchaSublime
@SorchaSublime 4 жыл бұрын
@@Fenriswaffle I mean, technically any political media that argues for a particular view is propaganda to a certain extent. I would argue that breadtube at large is leftist propaganda in various ways, Thought Slime even admits it, openly calling himself a propagandist.
@soundslikeskrillex9799
@soundslikeskrillex9799 4 жыл бұрын
Sorley De Cesare Doesn’t mean propaganda inherently wrong, if we use propaganda in its original sense, then it would simply means information spread to promote a cause.
@KelciaMarie1
@KelciaMarie1 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the poster-razor blade tip.
@DerDrako
@DerDrako 5 жыл бұрын
Once I cut my Hand, cause of this shit. Some nazi shops even sell these razor-stickers prepared.
@hamishfatcat3385
@hamishfatcat3385 5 жыл бұрын
@Pepsi Walmart turkey turkey stop funding porky and we'll talk.
@asapbrooks743
@asapbrooks743 5 жыл бұрын
Pepsi Walmart Go fuck yourself
@aliasofgray2854
@aliasofgray2854 5 жыл бұрын
Chytry Gawron I second this!
@LisaBeergutHolst
@LisaBeergutHolst 5 жыл бұрын
@Pepsi Walmart They sure are taking their time about it 🤔
@g2theartist
@g2theartist 4 жыл бұрын
"Anyone who wears a mask in public is bad" Everyone in 2020: "are we a joke to you?"
@markbot4286
@markbot4286 4 жыл бұрын
Lol 😆
@thesehotels
@thesehotels 4 жыл бұрын
YES YOU DEFINITELY ARE!!
@hailee5219
@hailee5219 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are. Please wake up. It’s sad at this point.
@DK-1474
@DK-1474 4 жыл бұрын
@@hailee5219 oh huh I forgot that caring about and protecting other people by mildly inconveniencing myself was "sad"
@schris413
@schris413 4 жыл бұрын
@@DK-1474 You're not protecting anyone. Your mask doesn't stop anything from spreading. It is a method of control.
@billberndtson
@billberndtson Жыл бұрын
I'm watching this in August of 2023 and it, while looking at Trump's many trials and his objections to them, is making me say "ohhhh....." and "now I see." I can't believe I only found your channel yesterday, but I'm happy to have finally done so. 🙂
@andrewharrison8436
@andrewharrison8436 Жыл бұрын
The bit that hit me was the prosecution of protestors for wearing black and being at an anti Trump rally. The man that made "lock her up" a rallying cry now calling his trials witchhunts - you couldn't (and wouldn't want to) make it up. Still, we are both only 5 years behind being up to date on Philosophy Tube.
@billberndtson
@billberndtson Жыл бұрын
@@andrewharrison8436 I'm getting caught up at a rapid pace. 😃
@elspethschuyler685
@elspethschuyler685 4 жыл бұрын
June 1st 2020, this video is just getting more and more relevant
@Qew1601
@Qew1601 4 жыл бұрын
holyshit , this is what i am thinking , all this police brutality and press suppressing just chill my bone
@-ahvilable-6654
@-ahvilable-6654 4 жыл бұрын
Antifa are horrible people, they think communism it's fun and games, but it killed too much people.
@CooledJets
@CooledJets 4 жыл бұрын
-Ah vilable- Capitalism has killed more
@-ahvilable-6654
@-ahvilable-6654 4 жыл бұрын
@@CooledJets lol no. Capitalism stopped slavery, and provided so much goods that the planet is overcrowded
@CooledJets
@CooledJets 4 жыл бұрын
-Ah vilable- Now it's wage-slavery, while millions and millions of people starve on the streets.
@bairdmccarthy3148
@bairdmccarthy3148 6 жыл бұрын
"I'm not suggesting we should start executing industrialists" 27:01. Unsubbed
@chazallen123
@chazallen123 5 жыл бұрын
Im french so you know, genetically predisposed to decapitation
@Zretgul_timerunner
@Zretgul_timerunner 5 жыл бұрын
@@chazallen123 goddamed guillotine fetichist
@adeelsk4
@adeelsk4 5 жыл бұрын
Bye.
@newchannel-gp3kr
@newchannel-gp3kr 5 жыл бұрын
Me too
@victormeunier9075
@victormeunier9075 5 жыл бұрын
@@Zretgul_timerunner Better a guillotine than a Jack Ketch. ^^
@radlad6435
@radlad6435 5 жыл бұрын
This video becomes very relevant again every so often
@ΚώσταςΡωμ
@ΚώσταςΡωμ 5 жыл бұрын
How so?
@gushakofficial5549
@gushakofficial5549 5 жыл бұрын
casual complaints they weren’t jokes, she herself never even tried to claim that
@gushakofficial5549
@gushakofficial5549 5 жыл бұрын
Felix O'Kane lmao saw you on that blaze vid 🤝
@christopherb501
@christopherb501 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Like every other minute.
@kanyewest8456
@kanyewest8456 5 жыл бұрын
Betty Taylor you got to be baiting. What commie* wants to take away guns
@ryanatkinson2978
@ryanatkinson2978 2 жыл бұрын
22:34 I never thought I'd see this mentioned so widely. This event led to one of my best friends in HS committing suicide, as they were said student's partner. I remember vividly my boyfriend receiving the campus alert text while we were driving, marking the point when Scout had been gunned down. I had no idea how much my life, and the lives of almost all LGBT/Left/GA Tech and many others, would change. My grandpa had died a week earlier, and while my bf and I didn't know Scout, we were still shocked and confused. Many of my friends knew them very well, and had been involved in GA Tech's LGBT organization alongside Scout. A few days later, my bf came home with the news that our friend had shot herself in her car less than an hour after walking into a gun show, and purchasing a shotgun. If gun control were a thing, they may have been made aware that she had many mental health issues. The winter following was one of the darkest times in my life, along with my bf. She was one of the first people I came out to, and my bf was her close friend. We all went to the same HS. Several friends of ours were arrested and received felony charges for the protests mentioned in the headline. Alongside all this was the early parts of the Trump presidency and the feeling like this was just the beginning. I'm glad things aren’t as bad as I expected, but I am forever changed. It turned me into a person who actually cares about politics
@sarahfunaki3884
@sarahfunaki3884 Жыл бұрын
Who the fuck is scout ?
@ryanatkinson2978
@ryanatkinson2978 Жыл бұрын
@@sarahfunaki3884 the person who was gunned down by the police, and the partner of my friend who later committed suicide... in case that wasn't clear lol
@sarahfunaki3884
@sarahfunaki3884 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanatkinson2978 Make sure you are strong and don't ever go down that path that your friend took too I;ve been there a few times and I'm honestly glad I'm not good at doing it because I'm still around. but I am also very Happy that I am and However dark life gets just remember what I say now that it will get better , So Don't Do it.
@sarahfunaki3884
@sarahfunaki3884 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanatkinson2978 In hindsight if you don't want to don't answer that question cos that was pretty rude too my curiousity does not come before someones feelings. Hugs again my friend.
@ryanatkinson2978
@ryanatkinson2978 Жыл бұрын
@@sarahfunaki3884 I'm sure whatever you're trying to say makes perfect sense in your head
@MichelFialloPerez
@MichelFialloPerez 6 жыл бұрын
I am most amused by how often Ollie has to open a response to a critical comment with "Did you watch the bits of the video where [I specifically addressed your kneejerk argument, almost down to the exact wording]?" Thank you for this video, sir. Educational and useful. Definitely passing it around.
@Trynottoblink
@Trynottoblink 6 жыл бұрын
Lol yeah, so many people are commenting without watching the video. It's ridiculous.
@traceuse13
@traceuse13 6 жыл бұрын
I am disheartened by all the fascist dogwhistlers in the comment section :/
@voidofspaceandtime4684
@voidofspaceandtime4684 6 жыл бұрын
Calling everything (buzzword) doesn't help your argument.
@nickhoschke6063
@nickhoschke6063 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know! I've already commented and have only seen about a quarter of it! Very nuanced and subtle so far, enticing even, loaded with self-righteousness, and deftly skirting issues (so far) of whether the ends justify the means. Can't wait to watch the rest of it!!
@Taeerom
@Taeerom 6 жыл бұрын
Calling "dogwhistle" a buzzword is really funny to me. A dogwhistle is defined as a buzzword that is an euphemism for something else.
@ahouyearno
@ahouyearno 6 жыл бұрын
Never really thought about it but every time I tore down a poster by the far right wing student group at my campus, I was engaging in antifascist action? That's a neat way to look back at that memory.
@SeanNaut
@SeanNaut 6 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah dude!
@Illumirage
@Illumirage 6 жыл бұрын
far right or just right in general? Because chances are, it's just you tearing down the posters of anyone that disagrees with you. You far, far, far, far, far leftists are pretty bigoted like that.
@brettanderson591
@brettanderson591 6 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the chance to run into one of you shit stains. Your not going to like it when we conservatives have had enough of you little pussies. Your hiding your faces isn't going to keep a fist from going down your throat. A few of you used as an example should send the rest of you back to your mammas basement, or your homeless camps.
@ahouyearno
@ahouyearno 6 жыл бұрын
@@Illumirage > far right or just right in general? Because chances are, it's just you tearing down the posters of anyone that disagrees with you I'm pretty much on the right myself, I usually vote christian-democrat in Belgium. I only tear down posters of far right wingers like you. >You far, far, far, far, far leftists are pretty bigoted like that. I'm on the right you dimwit but I don't like right wing extremists.
@ahouyearno
@ahouyearno 6 жыл бұрын
@jimmysp4des >let's play a game, you post a link to conservatives attacking people, and I'll post a link to antifa attacking people, let's see who runs out of content first. oh be careful what you wish for. I'll play this game alright. Only violence counts where people are hurt. And I'll amend the rules, not just regular conservatives (I'm a conservative myself in certain ways, especially on fiscla matters). I'll only go for far right extremists. Here's my first name: Anders Breivik
@EeveelutionForest
@EeveelutionForest 4 жыл бұрын
"anyone who wears a mask in public is bad" THAT DID NOT AGE WELL
@fawnx9544
@fawnx9544 4 жыл бұрын
in more ways then one... 2020 is a trip
@TimLevi
@TimLevi 4 жыл бұрын
Still true
@dynamicworlds1
@dynamicworlds1 4 жыл бұрын
Another way that the whole "Covid is a hoax cooked up to institute tyranny" claim is BS. What tyrannical government wants to normalize its population wearing masks all the time?
@TimLevi
@TimLevi 4 жыл бұрын
@@dynamicworlds1 it's to dehumanize everyone to each other. Makes it easier for people to cross the line
@dynamicworlds1
@dynamicworlds1 4 жыл бұрын
@@TimLevi tyrannical governments want their police masked and their civilians easily identifiable by sight.
@perrincalzada9131
@perrincalzada9131 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta boost the algorithm, incredible video Abby
@mrrodgers0
@mrrodgers0 6 жыл бұрын
Man, this totally changed my view on anti-fascist action. I was pretty much in the "I sympathize with the emotional impetus behind Antifa, but the methods are unpalatable." camp, but find myself in full agreement with the theory and practices now that I've heard them laid out coherently.
@Illumirage
@Illumirage 6 жыл бұрын
You're sympathizing with antifa now? These people are literally domestic terrorists.
@josephineblum5506
@josephineblum5506 6 жыл бұрын
That's awesome!
@JacatackLP
@JacatackLP 5 жыл бұрын
Damien INSANE-O have you thought of watching the vid buddy?
@Ismavolt
@Ismavolt 5 жыл бұрын
@@JacatackLP He probably paused it immediately on arrival. These people are just here for the comment section. Back in my time we'd have called them "trolls".
@Jajalaatmaar
@Jajalaatmaar 5 жыл бұрын
I think the whole point of the video was that there is no "general Antifa". It's individual groups that do stuff. Some of it is good, some of it is okay and some of it is bad and they're all done by different groups. Stay critical.
@phillipwombacher9635
@phillipwombacher9635 4 жыл бұрын
“Im not suggesting we execute industrialists” Me: aww beans
@brettuhl7818
@brettuhl7818 4 жыл бұрын
But he didn't suggest we don't!
@tenchimuyo69
@tenchimuyo69 4 жыл бұрын
Always reform first. If you can.
@captainham1511
@captainham1511 4 жыл бұрын
tenchimuyo69 There are some industrialists whose interests would make reform impossible and letting them continue to have power would be permitting their construction of fascism.
@tenchimuyo69
@tenchimuyo69 4 жыл бұрын
@@captainham1511 I didn't say anything about letting them continue to have power. I just believe the rich and powerful should be given a chance to learn to live like everyone else before we eat them.
@brettuhl7818
@brettuhl7818 4 жыл бұрын
@@tenchimuyo69 also reform is a way better means of getting people on our side
@kallepunkken
@kallepunkken 4 жыл бұрын
Also, antifa also oppose things that are not commonly described as fascistic, for example the growing amount of surveillance...
@CrafterboeyMiner
@CrafterboeyMiner 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but I like my privacy.
@kallepunkken
@kallepunkken 4 жыл бұрын
@@fuckamericanidiot If you are radical and in oposition to the state, you will be branded as terrorist, spyed upon by secret police., your posters will be taken down (so no freedom there) and there are already cameras everywhere. Fascism means control of the people with force and fear. Thats already happening.
@BadgerAmongMen
@BadgerAmongMen 2 жыл бұрын
This video just showed up in my home feed and I didn't realize it was an old vid. Seeing past-you was just absolute flashbang
@Rycluse
@Rycluse 2 жыл бұрын
It really is surreal. Reminds me of the label from the coming out video, "the man who isn't there"
@REALdavidmiscarriage
@REALdavidmiscarriage 3 ай бұрын
@@Rycluse the "man" who isn't there? lmao
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