The Pikmin 4 Demo is... INSANE

[@TrueLucinova]

I think with regard to the cave timer, the game doesn't technically advance the day while your underground, but rather when you return to the surface After fooling around a bit, I stayed underground for a long time and was never kicked out, but leaving did start the end of day countdown. So... while you're underground, I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter how long you take, but once you leave, time is advanced based on how long you were down there. I'm not 100% sure, but that was the feeling I got

[@omegagamer4124]

That's how it worked on pikmin 2 when you went underground the daytime timer froze and only moves again when you are done with the cave

[@fightme3368]

Time does pass slowly in caves! It doesn't just pause.

[@mannycantu1285]

happenedto me, i spent a lot of time checking each corner and when i got back it istantly said 5 seconds, horrible timing

[@Iuigi_t]

It passes 6 times slower in caves

[@nickw8160]

Aside from the intro being incredibly hand-holdy, I really love this game so far

[@bin344]

13:15 Oatchi can actually swim in the demo! I'm not sure how its specifically unlocked, but on day 4 of my second playthrough Shepherd had extra dialogue mentioning how Oatchi can now swim. In addition, it added a new series of upgrades for Oatchi that increases his movement through water.

[@Nedrac]

Yeah it happen to me too !

[@Octoyaxiii]

On my first play through it took 4 days minimum. On my second it took at least 6 days(I didn’t collect treasure as fast or go in the water initially) I believe it has to do with how much treasure you’ve collected and if oatchi has drowned once maybe.

[@Dark_Boii132]

Yeah you need to drown oatchi on day 2 or something

[@Dark_Boii132]

Then he will learn how to swim 2 days after that

[@UnaPinata]

I had it unlocked after I unlocked the blue onion, so I honestly assumed he learns it on the next day after unlocking blues.

[@mikmin2.0]

btw, how the time works in caves is, time passes slower in caves (probably at the rate they say) BUT will stop counting at the last 10 seconds of the day, and will wait there till you come out of the cave, and resumes

[@beebs4283]

I think it’s very sweet that Olimar seems to be turning people planty to save them, even if it obviously is messing with their minds. He’s making the most of what tools he has at his disposal to help the people he accidentally dragged into this mess, despite his own clouded mind.

[@Ausar0]

the intro has Olimar talking about meeting the Pikmin for the first time, immediately followed by meeting Moss for the first time. Either he completely lost his memories, OR it's just a reboot/alternate timeline of Pikmin 1. Not to mention Voyage Log number 66 mentions Olimar "dreaming" that Hocotate Freight went into debt that wasn't easily repaid. The way he was talking about it heavily implies that it didn't ACTUALLY happen, at least, in his mind.

[@OriginalGameteer]

Man's crashed landed on this planet so many times his head is getting messed up from oxygen poisoning

[@Pheonixice101]

​@@OriginalGameteerlmaooo

[@Kinguest8]

If the demo is 3 hours long imagine how long the real game is

[@Raisei-with-an-ak47]

Although almost half the space the full game contains the demo takes

[@FearsomeLAG]

4*

[@CurlyChop]

@@Raisei-with-an-ak47 the textures will be one of the heaviest parts of the files and there's no point removing them all for the demo

[@Raisei-with-an-ak47]

@@CurlyChop oh ok

[@nintendo-relatedchannel5810]

3 1/2 hours

[@hopefulskippy464]

Swimming is earned the same way as when you can ride oatchi. I'm pretty sure getting blue pikmin is what triggers the upgrade, as I got it the day after I got blues.

[@NinjarioPicmin]

no that's definitely not the trigger. On my first save i didn't get blues at all (got them softlocked in the water) but without doing anything specific one day when i arrived they just told me they have been training oachie to not fear water and he could swim

[@kalliope8238]

@@NinjarioPicminyeah I’ve had blue pikmin on the 2nd save and 3 days later oatchi still can’t swim. Clearly I’m missing something😂

[@fisher6663]

I got swimming on day 3 and never got any blues, might be after spending so many pup drive training?

[@Ausar0]

I never unlocked Oatchie swimming despite getting the blue onion and spending over 10 days before 100%ing the first area. If I had to guess, maybe it's unlocked a day or a few days after you get the cutscene that notifies you that Oatchie can't swim? Meaning if he never goes into the water, he just doesn't learn to swim lmao.

[@stoneshatter12]

@@NinjarioPicminlow key glad I’m not the only softlocked one out there 😅😬😂

[@tiredrat2628]

Im really hoping the full game has difficulty modes, and allows you to turn off the auto lock on which makes the game mind numbingly easy

[@LegoDarthVader.]

Definitely

[@MrManMK]

The original pikmin 3 demo on wii u didn't have go here so it's possible there are features and options that aren't yet in the demo

[@ziiiiiiii754]

@@MrManMKgood thing about demos is that devs can hear feedback to improve their game a little

[@thatpurplegoose]

You can always just make false difficulty with speed running but that’s just a pseudo fix

[@pistachiodisguisey911]

@@ziiiiiiii754 not when the full game has basically gone gold

[@thescarredsinner895]

The fact we can get Blue pikmin so early is really good, I was worried they were gonna do a pikmin 3 and forget to introduce them into the last second we’re the game is almost done

[@NinjarioPicmin]

Yeah completely agree on most of what you said. Controls took a lot of getting used to at first, but after a few hours they felt okay and by now (roughly 8 hours in) they actually feel pretty good to use. Sure there are some things that i wish were different, but i can work with this.

[@carlosm4941]

Did you just say you have 8 hours in a demo 😭😭 ( I have the same amount of hours in)

[@honkman29]

I really dont like the y button in the game cause you have to hold it for a couple seconds So ive used the shortcuts for them instead

[@NinjarioPicmin]

@@carlosm4941 yeah, even more after today presumably. First playthrough was slightly over 5h for 98% and experiencing everything for the first time and second playthrough was slightly over 2.5h for 99%

[@NinjarioPicmin]

@@honkman29 yeah, i mapped most of my shortcuts so i never need to hold y either

[@lilmonster619]

you can actually swim with oatchi in the demo. apparently you have to make him go in the water to get the cutscene where they tell you oatchi can't swim. im not sure how long it takes because for some reason it took a few days, but eventually you'll start a day and be told that oatchi got over his fear of water and learned how to swim

[@DarthAnimal]

Pressing the lockon button while locked on changes the lock on target if there are multiple available. Also disband is always available, I believe

[@doommustard8818]

auto lock on also has an awful priority system that makes it impossible to aim at something when something of higher priority is nearby. like for example enemies are a higher priority than carriable objects. so it wont let you throw at a treasure that is next to a harmless shergrub you have to kill the sheregrub first. it's annoying I'd like to turn it off. Ignoring enemies is an important strategy for high level play in the previous games.

[@zacharyowenmartin8247]

While playing in combat I was able to switch targeting using zr. I agree it shouldn't be forced being an og player of 1

[@fatsumo]

Please God they NEED to add an option to disable it. It's incredibly annoying, everything else is perfect but that

[@Tailsbot98761]

even as someone who started at 3 it sucks in 3 it was ok, in 3 deluxe it was slightly worse but still good, and it didnt auto lock at all, this is just a bad way to do it

[@Ausar0]

Auto lock on is great for speed. Less great for tactical decisions like grabbing a treasure instead of attacking an enemy.

[@jefferybrown6473]

Why do you having a living sheregrub still near you?

[@Gonsoi]

lock on should be like in zelda, where if your cursor is close to the target just show an arrow over the target and if you want to lock on press the button and lock on... not just snap into the enemy/objects

[@ChaosLightspeed]

It will snap, sure, but if you tilt your controller about, you still get control over where your pikmin are thrown. the soft lock cursor moves about with gyro.

[@gay4sswhovian]

Or Pikmin 3 ? Lmao

[@jess648]

nintendo saw people asking for pikmin 2 elements to come back and absolutely delivered

[@jasonerty]

in regards to the co-op, i honestly have to imagine its related to the limits of the hardware. Sure rendering 2 full viewports in a small simple dandori stage is possible without losing performance or scaling the resolution down too much, but having 2 separate renderings of the beautifully detailed overworlds might just be too much to ask for the old switch. That's my guess why they backed out of the coop at least, cannot really imagine that THIS is what they actually wanted to do for it, more or less they had to strip it down to make the game run well and look good consistently. I feel like a better compromise would have been allowing co-op in caves only so the other player can control oatchi or something, since surely the caves do not need nearly as much rendering power and memory.

[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

Pikmin 3 had regular co op.

[@montydoesgames]

​@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034except Pikmin 4 runs on Unreal Engine and is currently pushing the Switch's limits. There's a reason this has taken over a decade to release

[@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034]

@montydoesgames pikmin 4 isn't pushing shit to the limits, it looks as good as pikmin 3

[@jasonerty]

@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 While I can understand why you think that, mainly because 3 holds up very well even still today, that was accomplished by a lot of subtle tricks and effort. Remember that Pikmin 3 was likely Nintendo's first, or at least one of their first developed HD games. As such they were still getting their sea legs so to speak with modern development, and they ended up using a lot of little tricks to make the game look better than the Wii u could actually handle. They manually created Normal and Diffuse lighting maps for all models and environments, which make them look significantly more detailed than they actually are. Lighting and shadows in general are typically pre baked rather than using the engine to generate them in real time like Pikmin 4. Pikmin 3 uses very deliberate and sometimes cinematic camera angles to obscure lower detail areas and minimize the area rendered on screen, and also had short LOD distance, which it uses a slight blur in post-process to obscure. Pikmin 3 also most importantly has loading zones separating fairly small areas, and generally the skybox and distant objects are not rendered since the camera is locked to top down. All of this combined allowed them to make the game look very good, especially considering it was for Wii u. There is however, a problem with this. Namely it takes a hell of a lot more effort to manually do all of those tweaks, even for a short game like Pikmin 3, and 4 is looking to be significantly longer. On top of that Pikmin 4 has comparatively gigantic overworld areas with no loading zones(aside from caves). And the main culprit as to why this game is so much graphically heavier to run than 3, is the unlocked camera view, with of course, the significantly higher draw distance and fov had to come with that. Other major contributors being the real time in-engine lighting/shadows which tend to be more consistent and realistic looking at all angles, but slightly less impressive and detailed than the pre baked ones used in 3. There's more little things that can be all listed out that were improved or downgraded but they're all less relevant to the argument here. Now all things considered, there is still an argument to be made that 3 LOOKS better than 4, since it has more desaturated, realistic and believable foliage and creature textures, rather than the more flat, vibrant and stylized look 4 goes for, but really that is just subjective to what style you prefer rather than an actual objective ranking of which is more impressive in terms of graphical fidelity and how expensive in terms of processing power it is, which was the original comment here in the first place. TLDR, they traded off better textures in exchange for bigger areas, more realistic lighting, and a more free camera.

[@beebs4283]

It’s definitely not pausing time in caves- at the end I went into a cave slightly before I hit the red of the timer and by the time I was out I was firmly in the red.

[@jellyboi8032]

16:20 from my experience, it takes about 3-4 days for treasures to respawn, as I was trying to 100% the demo, and moved all of the treasures close to my ship, and some of them teleported back to their original areas

[@montydoesgames]

It's probably a failsafe to prevent you from doing things like locking out some treasures until you get certain types, getting them out of bounds or being unable to find them

[@owRekssjfjxjxuurrpqpqss]

I’m hoping it’s much longer than previous Pikmin games given how long this has been in development. I was a little disappointed that Pikmin 3 ended so quickly, felt like it was 10 hours ish long. Not looking for a 200 hour game like Totk obviously but 20-30 hours feels like it could be a good amount.

[@alpha-boss]

How long are the previous Pikmin games?

[@thepikminbrawler1746]

@@alpha-bossPikmin 1’s story is like 5 hours long, Pikmin 2’s is around 20-25 and Pikmin 3’s is like 15. All to 100% the main story.

[@omanite6129]

@@alpha-bossFirst game can be about 6 hours if you do all 30 days I’ve seen a lot of pikmin 2 playthroughs that don’t speedrun beat it at around 12 hours minimum and 30 hours maximum I forgot for pikmin 3

[@alpha-boss]

@omanite6129 Pikmin 1 seems to be on the short side.. Maybe because it was a new IP and they weren't sure how it would perform 🤔

[@alpha-boss]

@thepikminbrawler1746 So the longest one is Pikmin 2..It's even longer than the 3rd one.. It should be the opposite

[@Zolerian]

I think that a pause screen tip in the demo said that if you don't move and object for 3 days, it will come back to its original location. So by that, my take is that corpses disappear after 3 days, but I don't know when would the enemy respawn.

[@zacharybecker8228]

They didnt despawn on day 6 so

[@KittenPeng]

The rumble you get when playing with a pro controller is soooo good

[@Cyricone]

One thing I haven't seen mentioned a lot is that electricity can now kill Pikmin again, in a similar way to other elemental hazards. It does make me wonder if Blue Pikmin can also act as lifeguards again.

[@Jimble]

I tested this in my initial stream and totally forgot to mention it in this video. Thanks for reminding me, I will definitely bring it up in a future video!

[@Longboost]

The little tune that plays in this cutscene (4:35) is actually taken from the Pikmin 1 bad ending, so the plot is definitely somewhat inspired by the concept of the Pikmin 1 bad ending.

[@DarthAnimal]

Also you can get Blue Pikmin on Day 3, once you have 40 Ice Pikmin and can get Oatchi to Buff 3 so he can carry 10, you can use 10 pikmin to build the wall, hop oatchi up to the platform with the geyser, disband him, get the frozen pikmin back to carry the onion down to that platform, then refreeze the lake for oatchi and 10 pikmin to carry it across

[@DarthAnimal]

You can in theory get Oatchi to 20 carrying, have him sit on the ledge, and just have him do it on the frozen lake

[@ChaosLightspeed]

That geyser doesn't shoot up to the platform. You need to bring the onion down. Edit: I read your comment wrong. you weren't talking about using the geyser, just getting him onto that platform.

[@thebuddah1253]

Im betting the story dandori battles will get pretty tough later on seeing as it has difficulty ratings.

[@josephwilkins238]

Currently preparing to not look at any social media when pikmin 4 releases until I 100% the game

[@harribo2323]

wow i really didn't do much since i collected every treasure i saw. i didn't even get the yellow onion or do the dandori challenge

[@FrostedReaction]

Dandori challenge mode can only be accessed by having the full game.

[@harribo2323]

​@@FrostedReactionoh

[@FrostedReaction]

@@harribo2323 unless you're talking about the random encounters throughout the story p.s. I'm really dumb. Lol

[@harribo2323]

@@FrostedReaction yeah i was talking about that sorry

[@thebuddah1253]

Im hoping the game will have some difficulty spikes. The only one in 3 was the final boss which destroyed me.

[@foigaug]

So far, the difficulty is interesting. Its very easy yet one mistake with a Bulborb and I lost 6 reds in one chomp

[@thebuddah1253]

@@foigaug I noticed I couldn't easily punch out a little bulborb. And if a big one manages to bite you while on the dog it can take pikmin with it.

[@DrewFC]

Perhaps there will be a feature that we unlock after beating the game for the first time that changes the difficulty. Like a harder difficulty causes the defeated enemies to despair at night. And stuff like that.

[@visualprism4006]

After playing the demo I’m really confused on where in the timeline this takes place

[@c_lars_02]

Seems to be an alternate timeline afaik. The intro seems to describe an alternate version of the events of the first game, based on the wording of Olimar's narration.

[@ChaosLightspeed]

Something I don't really get that people seem to not be mentioning at all... All of Olimar's logs that he sent over at the end of the prologue imply that this is his first meeting with the Pikmin though.

[@shadowthief6471]

They need a file option you unlock after beating the game once this file option can be applied when creating a new save file. The option I want is No Type Limit

[@oasis4563]

I find it weird that you can 100% the first area with the pikmin you get, i always liked that you had to come back to old areas with new Pikmin like winged or blue Anyways thoughts on olimar's shipwreck tale? Its mentioned in the gameplay guide in the options menu

[@NinjarioPicmin]

Yeah, but hopefully this is just true for the first area

[@DarthAnimal]

@@NinjarioPicmin You can get all 3 main pikmin types in the first area, so I dont think there will be much backtracking

[@ZachStone3213]

@@DarthAnimal What about the other 4 types?

[@NormanGaming196]

I feel like you aren't actually meant to get blues through Oatchi though? For us to get blues, you have to freeze and unfreeze the water, spec oatchi fully into pickup amount. Feels all to unnatural for a Pikmin game.

[@victorfernandes83]

It depends how many areas there are, if its more than 10 areas there is no point in returning to the start area. You would return on previous pikmin games as they had less areas.

[@abowlofguacamole8558]

My record for the Pikmin 4 demo is 5 days, hoping to see a 4 days run eventually, maybe even a 3 days run.

[@abowlofguacamole8558]

Update: I meant a 100% run. I'm stupid, should've clarified.

[@TerribleTocc]

Something I think people should know; you cannot explore caves when the timer gets to the red. I found out the hard way after I got enough Sparklium to finish the demo and couldn’t start the Dandori battle because it was too late in the day

[@FluppietheRockruffFan]

Well that's a lie, I was able to go into a cave when the hurry up sign came on when I needed Yellow pikmin to get the final castaway of the demo

[@Dylpicklepotatochips]

You can only enter dandori style caves after sunset. Normal caves are blocked off.

[@montydoesgames]

​@FluppietheRockruffFan I think they mean sometime around the 10 second countdown

[@wilhowie3378]

Soo i have a seven year old and he loves the multiplayer. We figured out you can get nectar powerups and you can use the mode to take out traps, make walls come down faster and use the mode with the survey mode which is pretty op.

[@lasercraft32]

I'm going to assume that time _does_ still move at 1/6 speed like they said, but you don't need to worry about it because even if you spend long enough for the day to end it will just put you right before the countdown at sunset when you leave.

[@braveheart6585]

Oatchi learns how to swim in the demo if you derp around for enough days, it unlocked the day after I tried to swim with him for the first time, so that might have been the trigger, but I'm not certain.

[@themate28s]

Happened for me too, like the day after I overwhelmed him with water

[@lasercraft32]

I'm annoyed because I messed up trying to get the blue onion, and it got stuck in the water. Now I can't pull it out by freezing the water, and the only way to get it is to go back a few days... which sucks because I already got all the treasures and everything already! XU

[@UphillBridge]

I really like the dandori modes, imagine what level 5 levels of the dandori mode is like 😳 also I really liked the Tusked Blowhog for some reason

[@foigaug]

Yeah lvl 1 was already kinda sketchy

[@Octav2000]

My theory on the timeline is that it’s an alternate timeline where during the events of 1 olimar meets moss but they run out of time

[@Brad-cb2dt]

Did the sheer amount of dialogue boxes and the frequent pauses between them bother anyone else? I love this demo, but it’s been forever since I’ve been this frustrated by intrusive dialog in a game. I just wanted to get to the game play to see what had changed, and it took WAY too long to get to do anything. Seriously, even trying to speed through the dialogue is awfully slow since it frequently pauses before letting you advance to the next statement.

[@foreverGM.006]

yeah, that annoyed the crap out of me too. im sure the game will be great overall but it has high highs and low lows, and when youve been waiting for this game since you were 7 that can be pretty disappointing

[@Timothaking]

U can swim im the demo, me and my bro are playing the game to the full and he randomly got him to swim.

[@mr.blueguy7648]

I love that you can recognize some of the cave structures from pikmin 2, this game is feeling like they gave 2 the same polish as 3 and added some of the best elements from 3 like the pikmin Ai being smarter. I am so hype for this game

[@Darkest_One]

In My Playthrough I Made It To Day 7 And Shepard Just Naturally Taught Oatchi How To Swim. (I’m Not Sure What The Pop-Up Said Exactly But It Basically Said That Oatchi Was Afraid Of Water, But After A Huge Breakthrough Last Night In The S.S Shepard’s Bathtub, ‘Your Rescue Pup Can Now Swim’)

[@dropfish3109]

First of all, Why Are You Talking Like This? Second of all, you unlock swimming after beginning to drown dog.

[@honkman29]

This demos so big that i didnt even realise there was another cave i hadnt explored

[@montydoesgames]

I can confirm that time does pass at 1/6 speed in caves Entered a cave during sundown and exited to the 9th second of the countdown

[@waddlepikmin227]

From what I saw, he learns to swim after you reach a certain number of days. By acoiding treasure so the game let me keep playing, I got to about day 5 or 6 when Shepherd gave me the heads up that Oatchi got over a “fear of water” to be able to swim now. So if you stick it out for a few days, you can experience Oatchi’s swimming abilities a little after you open up the whole area.

[@Ausar0]

I spent 10 days and never unlocked it. By any chance did you trigger the "Oatchie can't swim!" Cutscene before it unlocked? I'm thinking that could be a possible trigger, since I only got that cutscene on the final day before I 100%ed the area

[@waddlepikmin227]

@@Ausar0 I did get that cutscene, but it was another 2 days or more before I got the ability, I don’t think it was the very next day. But maybe it is tied to that. In my first file, I got damaged by fire and electrocuted my Pikmin on my first real day, which led to Russ having fire and electric immunity the moment I rescued him. On my second file, he didn’t have the fire immunity until I went into the cave with dedicated fire hazards and never had the electric immunity unlocked, since I never got hurt by those hazards.

[@dropfish3109]

you need to begin drowning the dog

[@ElonMuskrat1930]

I’m hoping that there will be an upgrade into the type limit

[@zacharybecker8228]

Prob not it was a selling point on the store page

[@mattbabineau197]

I seriously doubt it, unfortunately.

[@NeverEverWatchThis]

I wish that we could just go back to the first area even after completing the demo

[@copycat500]

1:16 my highest “demo score” was about 2700 which I think you needed 3000 for the next map? Idk, but what I like is that for some reason if you decide to play again after getting the “demo complete” screen, you can explore your base and do things but the moment you select to go into a map it just kicks you back into the demo complete screen.

[@MonochromeMoths]

You need 1500 for the next area

[@copycat500]

@@MonochromeMoths I meant the map after the second one, which is why I said my “demo score” is at about 2700 It would’ve been higher than 3000 if the demo ended at that instead of 1500

[@MonochromeMoths]

@@copycat500 You can get more than 3500 in the demo

[@copycat500]

@@MonochromeMoths thanks for telling me something that I already know cus I watched the video

[@hillbillyboyDakota]

My only issue is i dont like how aiming just clicks on to things. I liked it more when you aimed for eyes and could aim where ever.

[@ogpandamonium]

I think that this is an alternate universe because the beginning monologue has olimar saying he crashed here and discovered pikmin and moss before fixing his spaceship and the final area was the house, which is obviously very different from pikmin 1.

[@suxid3]

Oatchi can actually swim in the demo of Pikmin 4, you just have to rescue all the survivors from the area. Edit: Nevermind! You don't have to rescue all of them, its a time-based upgrade (I think) but the main point about Oatchi swimming in the demo still stands.

[@starkillahx]

happens sometime after triggering oatchi's drowning cutscene

[@steelphoenix8978]

seeing how the charge horn is an upgrade, im so hoping the superior march horn is also one. charge has its uses and is good for those uses, but it can't replace march. march is just so much better with its utility, strategy, and functionality. i was watching one of my family members play the demo trying to get their leaf pikmin to slurp up some nectar and they were walking all through it and around it to lead the ones that needed it in. all i could think while watching them waste time doing that was, "well if you had march you wouldn't need to fiddle with the movement and intelligence of the pikmin." which btw, i think they made the pikmin too "smart" in this game. they will auto grab stuff that you dont want them to bother with and part of the fun in the rts is commanding a rather straight forward unthinking army.

[@renzo7725]

Excuse me the demo is out already!??

[@kenji6492]

I always thought P3DX’s new charge was a good substitute for swarming, but having both in one game is gonna be amazing

[@DarthAnimal]

Also Pellet Poseys will only ever be the colour of pikmin you have on the field. And Pikmin without an onion will always return a pellet or corpse as if they were the pikmin with the least amount

[@DarthAnimal]

You can see this when you get blue pikmin and go back to the landing site, you can pull out 1 yellow and 1 blue, and youll see them swap between yellow and blue

[@montydoesgames]

Oatchi also follows the Onionless Pikmin rule when carrying iirc

[@MLPSolarDash]

From 16:16-17:06 I certainly see that perspective and I can see why Nintendo would do that. But I would love to see enemies respawn in caves and on the surface. The treasures can stay where you left them but IMO the enemies not respawning after a few days makes the planet feel less alive and removes some of the challenge. I'd love to see that in the full game. And the caves are really cool but I'd love to see more sublevels in the caves. Despite those issues I did have a lot of fun with Pikmin 4's demo. :D

[@dropfish3109]

enemies respawn in caves after 100%ing the cave

[@airgod231]

I can conform that time does pass within caves. While I was playing I entered a cave near the end of the day and when I came out the 10 second timer started

[@nosouponhead]

The visuals are beautiful. My TV can even further upscale visuals, so I don't have any antialiasing 🙏 This looks like it could have been on a more powerful console now.

[@arcangelofjustice7423]

Re: co-op, I'm gonna try it with my "non-gamer" girlfriend. She's expressed some frustration at not being as skilled as me and has also felt that with other partners in the past, and playing games together hasn't always felt great for her because of that skill disparity. She mentioned that she liked the idea of being able to be helpful even if she wasn't good at the game, and this might be something she likes. Idk how it'll go, but it might be a fun little way to get her engaged without feeling like she's 'letting down the team'. This type of co-op definitely isn't for everyone and in the past I wouldn't have been enthusiastic, but maybe for people like her, it'll work.

[@aifbdkspearce]

spoiler alert louie is the final boss

[@BruteTigrex21]

One other thing I don’t like is how if you throw 2 pikmin at a pellet posy, only 1 pikmin will carry it back. The other will just stand there

[@luigi64fan]

The demo is definitely enjoyable, but a few minor things, the auto lock and the motion controls in general hold it back for me. The Wii version of the first 2 and both versions of 3 use basically the same aiming system are perfect in my opinion. Sure the aim can drift but that's what the reset button is for. I wish there was a setting to reenable the aiming format since the autolock has screwed me over before, locking onto dead enemies or a wall instead of the actual threat. Plus whenever I just want to chill out and not optimize too much I end up forgetting about the motion controls change since it isn't active 70% of the time. On the bright side, I found a way to get blues with only 30 pikmin! (Ice breaking with a delay instead of immediately is to blame, and if you screw it up you softlock yourself out of the blue onion until you get some blues in caves, since the onion can fall in the lake if you call a stray ice pikmin out of the lake accidentally.)

[@nathanblackburn1193]

if you play your cards right you can get to 99% completion in the area before finishing the demo, get as close to the sparklium requirement as possible from cave treasure while leaving all the surface treasure and then gather all the surface treasure near a landing site then you can gather every surface treasure in one go and have time left to finish the cave treasures, you can also get the blue pikmin onion in the demo which makes me think the other colours will have onions too because having all 3 onions in the first area seems kinda weird

[@dropfish3109]

you can 100%

[@D1stop1an]

Really hope this isn't set in the "bad ending" or a prequel, bc if its set after the bad ending then that means all the characters from 2 and 3 dont exist, and if it's prequel then why dont Glow or Ice pikmin exist in 1?

[@trevoranderson1604]

You can unlock Oachi's swimming in the demo. And you get 2 dandori battles. I encourage you complete as much as you can in the demo.

[@zacharybecker8228]

U can get the dog to swim i saw someone else get it so i guess its a secondary skill after finishing another skill

[@Luizanimado]

Man, everything looks great, EXCEPT THE STUPID CONTROLS!!! Come on, the pointer controls so much better, it sucks that they didn't even give you the option, I mean, you can used by holding A or B, but that makes it very jenky. I hope someone does a mod to fix that.

[@Evil-King926]

It is infuriating that they make you stop throwing pikmin after you throw the required minimim amount to carry something where you have to wait a second to throw again. I know that most things can have double the carry weight so let me just throw it all at once and let me be in full control

[@MizunoKetsuban]

The pointer controls better... when there's an actual pointer. The Switch does not have a pointer or sensor. Gyro pointing feels miserable.

[@Luizanimado]

@@MizunoKetsuban I don't think so, I had a really good time with Pikmin 3 on the switch, as long as they keep a button to recentrilize that should not be a problem. But even if you think it sucks, I think we can all agree that it would be good to at least have the option on the menu.

[@nightwishpower]

You seems as happy as I am for this game ❤️

[@Zaniack0422]

I love that olimars nose is so huge it isn't covered in hair

[@fatsumo]

Auto lock on needs a disable option!!!!!

[@AaranEftekharGames]

I have never had a pilmin game, but i have played the pikmin 3 demo alot, so getting another demo is making me excited

[@beta_unknow3050]

A suggestion is when you can bought it, bought Pikmin 2.

[@healexhelixvideos4680]

I played through the demo twice. In the first run, Oatchi got over his fear of water. In the second one, that never happened. I'm not sure what the criteria is, but if I had to guess, it probably has something to do with either using him on the ice, or getting him wet and getting him out quickly.

[@dropfish3109]

you need to begin drowning the dog

[@iyou540]

I accidentally unlocked teaching occhi to swim... when he was very small still I tried going in the water and then he panicked and I called him out. Then when he got bigger I tried again and he panicked and then was shaking and scared and the captain scolded me and called him a brave dog, then the next day the captain apparently had been training Occhi in the bathtub and the doggy had learned how to swim! I feel mean

[@protobomber9822]

Oatchi CAN learn to swim within the demo

[@Lb_V]

i had a ton of fun with this and i 100% the area!

[@Crimson-Hat]

The, "everything stays where you left it" thing kinda bit me in the ass. I tried to drag the blue onion across the ice but didn't have enough Pikmin or level 3 buff so I froze the ice then called them back to carry the onion before it thawed, expecting the Ice Pikmin to float it along, but they can't, and now the blue onion is stuck in the water with no way to get it out.

[@beta_unknow3050]

You can actually unlock it by using the dog, but you need to raise up the dog level

[@BmanXY]

I think its an alternate timeline to pikmin 1 where events unfolded differently BECAUSE in pikmin 3 bonus videos he says it’s his third time on the planet kzbin.info/www/bejne/bH-nZJuIgNF4qZI 0:17 But in pikmin 4 olimar refers to everything as if it’s his first time and he does not mention his previous expeditions

[@realteamwall]

each game does something better than the others pikmin 1 is the most replayable pikmin 2 has the best cinematics and the scariest enemies pikmin 3 has the best graphics and time limit pikmin 4 has the best characters

[@YayamTheYamLover]

I would like to say you can get blues if you take 10 ice pikmin and get them onto the onion then get them back in the ice and get oatchi to pull at lvl 3 buff with 10 other pikmins

[@antoeab]

Time does pass by while you are inside of caves. The 1/6 things is real, you do have unlimited ti though since if you are in a cave and u reach the 10 second countdown it will pause the time so the day will never end while you are inside a cave but it will always drop u out at least before the countdown if you are eager to do a cave late in the timer,

[@Flimbo101]

Is Pikmin 2 deluxe mod dead? I am still interested in it but info is non existent 😢

[@troyotasupraaa]

I use pack for ⬆️, oatchi commands for ⬇️, switching between characters for ➡️ and disband all for⬅️

[@antoeab]

I spent like 8 hours on it trying to ser absolutely everything u can do in the Sun Speckled Terrace and I managed to eventually arrange things in a way that I got 78% of the area done, 3,000 Sparklium and everythinf possible, so in the Sun Speckled Terrace there is some areas that requiere you to progress so you can do things, hoy need to increase your limit to at least 50 if you want to get the Blue onion, there is a cave that requieres you I believe to use Winged Pikmin to rescue a castaway, you can't enter a timer based cave and if you rescue everything you can actually get the RANGER (who is hinted to like Shepherd) and after you get the Ranger Dingo you will only be missing Bernard the Pilot, and Yonny the Doctor. (Also NINTENDO PLEASE MAKE A TURN OFF AUTO LOCK ON AS A GAMEPLAY OPTION BECAUSE IT ANNOYS ME)

[@Grindelsire]

You can actually get 100% in the demo. My highest is currently 99% because there’s one treasure that you need to dig up that I didn’t know about.

[@antoeab]

@@Grindelsire Yeah I have been trying more stuff and gotten more things, I'm still getting used to some stuff and I for some reason completely ignored the fact ice Pikmin can well freeze water

[@KingCassowary531]

I don’t know if anyone else commented this but time does move in the caves since I exited a cave at the 10 second countdown

[@Muffib4448]

Considering how demos are usually small i wonder how big the main game is, i hope at least 5 areas

[@mossisneat5686]

I don't know if anybody else got the oatchi swimming upgrade in the demo but Shepard just gave it to me at the start of the day. It doesn't seem like something you can get with pup points

[@stanfoo1175]

i actually wasn't given the swimming upgrade

[@NaterSquib]

How is everyone getting past 3 days? AND getting blues?

[@InkyMuste]

I'll wait for reviews and then decide whether to get it on release or later on sale. The lack of any difficulty, auto-lock and overall "baby's first game" -vibe kinda brought my excitement down a notch.

[@fluffva]

i think its on day 4 or 5 that Oatchi gets the swim ability like how he grows over the night for day 3

[@C-Rex1]

I wish I hadn't gone and found the 1500 Sparklium now, lol.

[@realteamwall]

creatures respawn in caves if you reenter

[@yoshivsjoshi]

I personally can’t stand prequels I love a story always moving forward, I think since in the story Olimar is talking in the past tense talking how he needs to be rescued, I think when you turn into a flower guy or whatever its called you lose most your memory and personality and you become obsessed with Dondori battles, I think the Plasm wraith is behind this

[@michaelr3077]

you forgot the 5th shortcut button with the left click

[@chwaftka9775]

Gonna be honest the 3 type limit is very unappealing for me. I don't want to worry about going all the way back to the onion because oops I walked this far away only to find out I need THIS type of Pikmin where as prior I could take out just about every type in case I needed it.

[@TheSfrfilms]

You have multiple spots to land the ship and onion now, though. So theres never a spot to swap pikmin too far away

[@chwaftka9775]

@@TheSfrfilms oh that's great to hear

[@theangelavenger4173]

Yes! I thought the same thing but multiple landing locations are a new thing in this title which will eliminate that backtrack since the areas are so big

[@starkillahx]

you can also get a survey drone which you can use to scout the whole map without using any time up

[@honkman29]

How do you unlock the switch by the way