The Pimax Crystal Light really Surprised me.

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Tyriel Wood - VR Tech

Tyriel Wood - VR Tech

Күн бұрын

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@Tyrielwood
@Tyrielwood Ай бұрын
Give me back the $699 version!! 😫
@bastareims5737
@bastareims5737 Ай бұрын
Who wants to use such a high-end device without local dimming? lol They should rather add eye-tracking for future-proofing like in the non-Light Crystal version.
@nerddeku9675
@nerddeku9675 Ай бұрын
​​@@bastareims5737Exactly, why pay an extra $200 when you can get a Quest 3 that has its exclusive games, only worth buying with local dimming.
@Nobody-Nowhere
@Nobody-Nowhere Ай бұрын
@@bastareims5737 They should just make a budget 8.3MP module for the Super. Because thats their next body, and that 8.3MP resolution is valid still for a long time.
@tomc1380
@tomc1380 Ай бұрын
Ya, looks like just another Pimax broken promise. With adaptive contrast like the Q3 now has, local dimming isn’t really necessary imho. I have both Q3 and QPro and blacks/contrast now look pretty similar imho.
@dannygaron
@dannygaron Ай бұрын
@@tomc1380 Ummm... I need to look into this :) The only thing stopping me from getting a Quest 3 was the local dimming on my Quest Pro.
@tdhitchins
@tdhitchins Ай бұрын
The studioform kit really helps with the comfort, it's comfortable. It could still do with being smaller but this helps a lot!
@vendabenda5831
@vendabenda5831 Ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. I had a lot of issues with my Pimax 5k+, but I will probably consider Crystal Super with micro-OLED screens. Pimax is trying hard, but nothing is truly finished on their product.
@carlospacheco6225
@carlospacheco6225 Ай бұрын
I reserved the super bundle also for pimax
@calmpuffin
@calmpuffin Ай бұрын
The size kills it for me
@adrianstealth340
@adrianstealth340 Ай бұрын
Agreed why so big when many claim fov is on par with quest 2 & 3 ?
@x32i77
@x32i77 Ай бұрын
Only 104 fov on both sides.
@BlujusticeVR
@BlujusticeVR Ай бұрын
Yea it’s super ugly and huge with them dated tracking rings still lol. Definitely something I would never get! Cool video though it reminds me of those people that put all those additional parts on the quest headset making it look goofy lol
@antjones2281
@antjones2281 Ай бұрын
Wait until you see the Super they finally fixed this. It's like they finally realized that they would sell 2x as many if people weren't revolted by the size. kzbin.infoUgkx5dpFwov1kNhAEAcjEQv8s0k8sq4EptTJ?si=DT8uoIGt6vYEttyM
@Johnny_Thunder
@Johnny_Thunder Ай бұрын
If it was normal size I would have instantly bought it but I can't get past the 90s sizing for nothing, no large fov. Just sloppy work.
@kevinbrook7033
@kevinbrook7033 Ай бұрын
Great review Tyriel. I feel a bit stuck regarding hardware right now. I'm still rocking a Quest Pro, purchased for £1500 at launch. It has some annoyances, the lack of display port connectivity and a resolution per eye from 2020-21 being the most notable for me. I did buy the Quest 3, but as a PCVR users primarily, I preferred the Pro for colours, contrast and blacks, the open design and tracking and controllers. I don't play mobile games so returned that headset. I really want an upgraded experience for Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 but nothing in the current line up has me wanting to open my wallet. I'd love the Crystal Light's displays inside my Pro, but I want nothing else about that headset at all, the bulky design, inferior optics, worse controllers and tracking etc. The same with the Big Screen Beyond. If it has a small sweet spot and glare it's a no go. I'm so gutted Meta pulled the plug on a Quest Pro 2, I feel in a no man's land right now where there is nothing that justifies spending a thousand dollars or more on.
@tomc1380
@tomc1380 Ай бұрын
Ya, same here mate. My QPro/rtx4090 with official link cable connected to my z790mb usb3.2 gen2 type-c port at 650mbps encoding bitrate works great with msfs2020. I just wish it had DisplayPort for better performance. I’m going to try the new Vive Focus Vision with its DP option but given its lcd/fresnel screens/lens I don’t have high hopes, lol!
@x32i77
@x32i77 Ай бұрын
Somnium vr1. It's a huge upgrade over the crystal
@Blattie
@Blattie Ай бұрын
Same with my QPro! I feel like it'll be worth to upgrade maybe in 2-3 years. I just bought a Q3 and honestly, it feels both like a downgrade and an upgrade to the Quest Pro, depending on the area. The problem to me is that the Quest Pro came out at a weird time. I believe they should've waited for Quest 3 to come out because both headsets feel so similar but the lower performance of the Pro shows at that point.
@Blattie
@Blattie Ай бұрын
@@x32i77 Ugh it's so expensive and you still need lighthouse tracking, and it's not possible to use it wireless 😢
@x32i77
@x32i77 Ай бұрын
@@Blattie yeah but you get a super thin long cable and the picture quality is simply out of this world. I tried it at Somnium Connect and was blown away. The crystal light didn't impress me after my Varjo Aero
@exponentialbet6292
@exponentialbet6292 Ай бұрын
I ❤ my Crystal Light, and I'm definitely not a Pimax fanboy. It's just a superb PC VR headset for sim racing. Solid review. 👊
@guillermogonzalezdiaz9349
@guillermogonzalezdiaz9349 Ай бұрын
Is it confortable? What about the weight for longer races? I'm using a rift S for iRacing and I'm afraid of buying a heavier headset 🤔
@exponentialbet6292
@exponentialbet6292 Ай бұрын
@@guillermogonzalezdiaz9349 It needs the official top strap, which cost about £20 ish, and I think you can even buy them from that well known online shopping place, that starts with the letter A. That solves everything. It removes any weight issues or balance, puts it exactly where you need it. I can wear it comfortably no problem for hours on end without removing it. Without the top strap you will have the same experience as Tyriel. The DMAS earphones are also essential. With those two upgrades you're good to go. A personal preference one is the 15mm face cushion, but that's just because I wear prescription lenses, and it gives me more lens to eye distance. It's a truly great PC VR headset for sim racing or flight sims. The clarity, comfort, and smoothness of set up is exceptional. I hope this helps.
@notsure1840
@notsure1840 Ай бұрын
Lucky if it worked mines faulty and they are not helping me at all, im wondering if they are even a succesful company you can rely on in future or the headset will just go dead. Money burned
@exponentialbet6292
@exponentialbet6292 Ай бұрын
@@notsure1840 That's an absolute bummer mate. Sorry to read this. I got lucky with their customer service, and they sorted out my initially delivered slightly crushed Crystal Light. Even sent me some extra bits to make up for it, even though it wasn't their fault. They have an escalation system if you're unhappy, but I'm guessing you've exhausted options. I hope you do get it resolved. Like many companies some people have different experiences, it sometimes depends who you get to resolve your problem.
@exponentialbet6292
@exponentialbet6292 Ай бұрын
@@guillermogonzalezdiaz9349 Incredibly comfortable, it's really lightweight and well padded.
@TeabagParty
@TeabagParty Ай бұрын
The Super with 4k per eye sounds heavenly. Over kill for now but I'm glad to see someone making that an option
@AdamMi1
@AdamMi1 Ай бұрын
You mean dual 2k right? The displays haven't got 4 thousand pixels on any axis.
@TeabagParty
@TeabagParty Ай бұрын
@@AdamMi1 the upcoming Crystal Super that isn't out yet has 3840x3840 per eye.
@lat78610
@lat78610 Ай бұрын
​@@TeabagParty 12k scam all over again
@Nobody-Nowhere
@Nobody-Nowhere Ай бұрын
@@lat78610 Not really, they showed a super prototype already in CES 2024. And have showed the new body & panels & optical modules for the LCD version. The oled version i think is something that will or will not happen anytime soon.
@simracingjunky9679
@simracingjunky9679 Ай бұрын
The only card that will run this will be the 5090 because it will require dp 2.1 and most graphic intense titles will still not run at full res on that.
@PlayJasch
@PlayJasch Ай бұрын
Hope they keep at it. 2030-35 should be the year VR becomes very good.
@dtz1000
@dtz1000 Ай бұрын
The original cable on the Crystal was fibre optic. For this one, they downgraded it to a heavier and cheaper cable.
@Verociity
@Verociity Ай бұрын
After the Reverb G2 I can never go back to a heavy cable, it really ruined the experience compared to lighter cables.
@blenderalien
@blenderalien Ай бұрын
2:33 What do you mean the lenses make the image dimmer? Aspheric optics are very light efficient and especially the glass ones on the Crystal let about 200 nits to your eyes, more than double of the beyond for example
@bastareims5737
@bastareims5737 Ай бұрын
Exactly! Aspheric Lenses are very good and bright. Pancake Lenses are pretty uninffective for light output.
@tomc1380
@tomc1380 Ай бұрын
@@bastareims5737 Ya, but heavier with less edge to edge clarity. Pancake lens are less light efficient but overall the way to go imho. Pimax def needs a much smaller form factor.
@bastareims5737
@bastareims5737 Ай бұрын
@@tomc1380 don't forget about the annoying glare reflections in "every" pancake based HMD - even Vision Pro and Quest 3.
@tomc1380
@tomc1380 Ай бұрын
@@bastareims5737 Sorry but I don’t see that with either my Q3 or QPro. Maybe like everything VR, it’s a bit subjective.
@michaelbinbc
@michaelbinbc Ай бұрын
​@@bastareims5737 What is this glare you talk about? My Quest Pro is far clearer than the fresnel lenses of the past. I don't see any glare. But then I also use prescription inserts... they have a tiny bit of glare, but that's due to the light from the regular lenses reflecting off the prescription lenses. But even then, it's quite minimal. Comments on Oculus forum suggest it's quality control with the Quest 3, and to contact customer support if your individual headset has issues.
@WunderbarVR
@WunderbarVR Ай бұрын
Can't wait for the Pimax Crystal Super. To have a VR headset with display port, 3840 res per eye, pancake lenses (which are much bigger than the Crystal Light) and OLED is going to be insane!
@elmaxlife
@elmaxlife Ай бұрын
Without eye tracking compatible with every game, I've yet to see this work correctly, it would require the power of a RTX 6090 at least otherwise
@v1nigra3
@v1nigra3 18 күн бұрын
Same
@v1nigra3
@v1nigra3 18 күн бұрын
@@elmaxlifetf you talking about a 4070 can handle it just fine, a 4090 superbly
@elmaxlife
@elmaxlife 18 күн бұрын
@@v1nigra3 I meant at full resolution and good framerate However those VR headset will still be very nice at lower rendered resolution for sure
@v1nigra3
@v1nigra3 18 күн бұрын
@@elmaxlife oh yeah no 120hz, 90max for the micro oled. We should be getting software in the next year or two that would significantly boost VR performance while maintaining max quality unless NVIDA decides to bundle it with hardware as well
@thomasuniat6984
@thomasuniat6984 Ай бұрын
Patiently waiting for a 3S vs 3 vs 2 through the lens comparison. No one else does them as well. :)
@damiengvideos4337
@damiengvideos4337 Ай бұрын
Save yourself some time and just go by the Q3. The 2 and 3S have crappy lenses.
@Onehighcat
@Onehighcat Ай бұрын
My neck can barely handle the Quest 3 that I went for the Bigscreen Beyond. I cant imagine the neck pain with that behemoth on your head. I'm good.
@Tyrielwood
@Tyrielwood Ай бұрын
F1 driver training
@glitchinthematrix9306
@glitchinthematrix9306 Ай бұрын
I have a damaged neck from car accident and have no issues wearing the pimax crystal for hours.
@2ndLastJedi
@2ndLastJedi Ай бұрын
Gym time i reckon haha
@jackr.749
@jackr.749 Ай бұрын
Hi Tyriel, great review. As for your PC screaming, try adding a exception to Windows security pointing to the Pimax Play "Folder", this seems to help the high CPU use when just sitting there not using the PCL but having Pimax Play running. Mine seems to behave with this exception. PC only screams now when in MSFS 2020! LOL 🤪 Also, the new software version has 90hz upscalling mode which seems to be working very well, I use this all the time now, great in MSFS and for sim racing, as far as I'm concerned, works better than DLSS. I'm no fan of Pimax, they have strange ways of doing things but this Crystal Light is impressive for it's price point and yes, I do like the local dimming part, blackest blacks I've seen since older OLED HMDs like the OG Vive, Rift CV1 and the Samsung Odyssey. The colors are also vibrant and beautiful, many people have complained about getting faulty lenses, maybe it's a matter of their eyes just not being able to get use to the aspheric lenses. Luckily, mine has good lenses. 🙂
@nejihiashi
@nejihiashi Ай бұрын
you are through the lens king where is the thing :(
@gaarax80583
@gaarax80583 Ай бұрын
Great video. One question do you think pancake lenses of the quest 3 are better in terms of clarity and visual confort than aspherical ones?
@phrogZ-ei8yz
@phrogZ-ei8yz Ай бұрын
I returned the headset. It feels so uncomfortable, like it was with the Quest Pro. In my opinion, a modded Quest 3 feels so comfortable that I can do 4-6 hour sessions non-stop in DCS or MSFS.
@ixeb5115
@ixeb5115 Ай бұрын
Hello Tyriel do you think is it possible to put an Audio Headset on the Pimax Crystal Light by unmount the audio speaker or it's just impossible ? (i have an Audeze Maxwell headset) and too can you give the reference of your Pimax controller grip VR cover please ?
@JoeyBonzo
@JoeyBonzo Ай бұрын
I'm excited for the Pimax Crystal Super, made my reservation already
@robinorg1
@robinorg1 Ай бұрын
3:28 it would probably help to put the cable in the cable holder...
@mihaighita8553
@mihaighita8553 Ай бұрын
Very useful video. I am curious how it compares to Reverb G2 since there are some folks who search for a decent priced replacement without losing on quality and convenience.
@Tyrielwood
@Tyrielwood Ай бұрын
@@mihaighita8553 it's heavier and bigger, but the sweet spot is much bigger and well clarity and res are on another planet :)
@madigorfkgoogle9349
@madigorfkgoogle9349 Ай бұрын
@@Tyrielwood its also double the price of G2...
@benthecaptain7419
@benthecaptain7419 Ай бұрын
Considering. But also waiting for a better headset or get the bugs out.
@Nago15
@Nago15 Ай бұрын
The midget thing. I experienced this on every PSVR1 headset I've tried, even at home with perfectly calibrated IPD. My firend's experience was the same. I found it strange no one ever talked about this totally immersion breaking issue with no fix. I never thought it was because of the lenses.
@Tyrielwood
@Tyrielwood Ай бұрын
@@Nago15 so I'm not alone
@neurokinetik
@neurokinetik Ай бұрын
Same. Rift CV1, OG Vive and Index all had the pilot looking a little smaller than expected for me.
@adrianstealth340
@adrianstealth340 Ай бұрын
I’m wondering if it’s the optics in the quest 3 , gives me eye strain badly , every other headset I’ve had including the trusty quest 2 zero problems
@x32i77
@x32i77 Ай бұрын
I experienced it aswell. Did you notice it in somnium vr ?​@@Tyrielwood
@ferencivanics9980
@ferencivanics9980 Ай бұрын
@@adrianstealth340 I bought a Q3, and in the first few days I had some minor-medium eye strain. I never felt that with my Q1, but now, after 2-3 weeks, I totally forgot about it. It is gone, and with the kiwi-design headstrap I lose myself in the immersion and can play or paint for 2-3 hours. This was impossible with my front-brick Q1.
@gaminginstilllife9429
@gaminginstilllife9429 Ай бұрын
best headset ive ever owned, and Ive had them all. the best thing really was the software is easy to use and the headset just works . but you need a 5090 to get the most out of it really.
@antjones2281
@antjones2281 Ай бұрын
Nah, 4090 is the perfect GPU to pair with this. I think I will actually skip the 5000 series for once , since I have no reason to go higher right now with the Crystal.
@madigorfkgoogle9349
@madigorfkgoogle9349 Ай бұрын
@@antjones2281 Crystal is not Crystal light, foveated rendering helps a lot.
@William_99640
@William_99640 Ай бұрын
@@antjones2281 agreed 5000 series for 4090 owners is a complete waste.
@Entheo_Wolf
@Entheo_Wolf Ай бұрын
Strange, other reviewers have also recommended forgoing the local dimming. I'm guessing the Quest Pro got it down right, as it was a much requested feature when the quest 3 was rumored.
@Tyrielwood
@Tyrielwood Ай бұрын
The local dimming is better on the q pro than here for now
@b00rak
@b00rak Ай бұрын
Will you do the through the lens video with it?
@kbelcar
@kbelcar Ай бұрын
Hi, I have a problem with the delivery of Pimax Light - after more of 40 days of waiting (I also pay preorder fee 5 months ago), the distributor promises delivery for the fifth time but still nothing - what to do?
@nigaudlotovrbenchmarkandvi313
@nigaudlotovrbenchmarkandvi313 Ай бұрын
The fact that it is necessary to reset the roomscale everytime I take it off is absolutely terrible and they need to correct that ASAP ! I'm either below the ground or 5 meters in the air or I feel lile an ant !
@rayviljoen2284
@rayviljoen2284 Ай бұрын
Waiting for replacement lenses for mine.. so disappointed. It's like looking through a fish bowl atm and completely unusable!! Fingers crossed the replacement lenses work.
@PaulMcDonagh-rv6vc
@PaulMcDonagh-rv6vc Ай бұрын
You are sadly going to be even more disappointed. My replacement lenses landed today, and are even worst. Sending HMD back for refund, but god only knows how long that will take.
@tonygee3284
@tonygee3284 Ай бұрын
My lenses came back today these are worse than the ones I sent back. Will be asking for a full refund
@SpookySkeletonGang
@SpookySkeletonGang Ай бұрын
As a holdout WMR user, I'm really hoping valve makes that newer/cheaper headset they've been rumoured to be working on. Part of why I went with my WMR headset was for the price, and it feels like unless I go oculus (which I can't because linux support lol) then I can't really get a replacement at the same price. This Pimax headset looks really good it's just outside my price range :(
@Nobody-Nowhere
@Nobody-Nowhere Ай бұрын
Why would they make a cheaper headset? They are literally still selling their ancient 2MP headset for almost 1k$.
@madigorfkgoogle9349
@madigorfkgoogle9349 Ай бұрын
@@Nobody-Nowhere why would anyone buy their ancient 2MP headset for almost 1kUSD?
@threepe0
@threepe0 Ай бұрын
It's a bit frustrating that it's 2024 and there's so little high quality vr content available. The hardware is a bit odd too: Facebook came out swinging and Valve, others seem to be asleep at the wheel.
@DimakSerpg
@DimakSerpg Ай бұрын
Why PC VR cost more than Standalone VR? PC VR doesn't have built in smartphone. So why? I don't get it.
@zig131
@zig131 Ай бұрын
Meta's Reality Labels can afford to haemorrhage money by selling HMDs close to cost as they are bankrolled by the rest of Meta. They are making a bet, that AR is going to be the "next smartphone" in the future, and are trying to build a platform so they can monopolise (or at least be part of a duopoly with Apple) when that day comes. Companies like Pimax have to make decent profits on the hardware they sell you, as they have no other sources of income. When you buy a PCVR HMD, you are going to turn around and buy your games from Steam - the headset manufacture gets no more money from you.
@Nobody-Nowhere
@Nobody-Nowhere Ай бұрын
Because it has double the resolution than any standalone headset?
@SETHalpine
@SETHalpine Ай бұрын
Because people are enough stupid to believe that 1200€ , it's a normal price for two screen (even 2880X2880...)+ lens+ video controller Who dare sell lower resolution in 2024? Meta...owned by a guy who earned 80 billions this year...and who has still need to sell your private data... By the way Pimax is still unable to provide a DP2.1 controller...too expensive for them... Or simply a real foveated rendering at this price which is quite necessary
@AslInson
@AslInson Ай бұрын
Other companies are trying to turn a profit and Meta is trying to own the market
@immrchris
@immrchris Ай бұрын
Worth upgrading from a Varjo Aero?
@edgarsi
@edgarsi Ай бұрын
waiting for index 2 my boy; thanks for great vid!
@adrianstealth340
@adrianstealth340 Ай бұрын
Me too but want direct PCVR no battery
@x32i77
@x32i77 Ай бұрын
Index 2 = Somnium vr1
@edgarsi
@edgarsi Ай бұрын
@@x32i77 interesting project.. havent seen this one, thx for sharing!
@madigorfkgoogle9349
@madigorfkgoogle9349 Ай бұрын
@@x32i77 Somnium=overpriced Czech scam.
@CognosSquare
@CognosSquare Ай бұрын
Why did you not try to find the source of the fan noise? Just check task manager and see if CPU or GPU is spiking. It is good content.
@Tyrielwood
@Tyrielwood Ай бұрын
@@CognosSquare it starts every time that the Pimax software starts, no cpu or GPU spikes, I'm telling you, it's weird 😂
@Tato-bp8lp
@Tato-bp8lp Ай бұрын
It’s mining crypto maybe…
@antjones2281
@antjones2281 Ай бұрын
​@@Tyrielwooddid you have that Pimax experience Home running. Even with the headset off I think it may be auto running.
@Simmymind360
@Simmymind360 Ай бұрын
Not sure what CPU you have, but i would go into Bios and tune Fans..are you ovrrclocking Cpu?
@Glider324
@Glider324 Ай бұрын
The point is that the headset was turned off yet the software was still using cpu.
@Leynad778
@Leynad778 Ай бұрын
Not sure, but I doubt this scaling issue can be blamed on Pimax (never had that with my former 8KX in other games) and it's probably down to Elite Dangerous to fix this or might be SteamVR. But that's the reason those FOV-measurements are often nonsense to compare headsets, because the world-scale probably differs between them. I've noticed that VoodooDE had very different FOV-results between the Pico 4 and Pico 4S, which share the same headstrap, facial interface, optics and panels, so must be a world-scale discrepancy.
@TioAzaGamer
@TioAzaGamer Ай бұрын
I would love to buy it but the company wont send to mexico, not even with private packaging services, too bad
@CognosSquare
@CognosSquare Ай бұрын
$699 is nice but local dimming is worth it 100%. You got to have those black areas.
@a5cent
@a5cent Ай бұрын
Local dimming is mostly useless. If you play elite dangerous with lots of dark area but bright stars all across the background, you can throw local dimming in the trash. It's a hack. OLED is the only worthwhile path.
@Frigobar_Ranamelonico
@Frigobar_Ranamelonico Ай бұрын
From experience with local dimming, and what I have heard about the one in the crystal the algorithm seems bad so... Not worthy
@a5cent
@a5cent Ай бұрын
@@CognosSquare Nah. Local dimming is garbage. On anything, not just VR. OLED actually fixes the problem that local dimming attempts to fix, but rarely can.
@madigorfkgoogle9349
@madigorfkgoogle9349 Ай бұрын
@@a5cent OLED is crap, and the black blacks are actually nonsense, human eye cant see black in nature.
@tkdmp5698
@tkdmp5698 Ай бұрын
8:42 did you use 2 drawers as desk feet and put a thick wood plank on top of it? Thats so smart if thats what you did Is it sturdy?
@nicogentry2
@nicogentry2 Ай бұрын
How is it 2024 and someone who watches tech vids has completely missed the most overdone desk trend on the planet for the last like 7 years lol It’s just ikea Karlby + Alex
@tkdmp5698
@tkdmp5698 Ай бұрын
@@nicogentry2 I live under a rock I did not know that this is so common
@zenobikraweznick
@zenobikraweznick Ай бұрын
Awesome!
@mignotmaxime2409
@mignotmaxime2409 Ай бұрын
I have a 9900k and a nvidia GTX card. For hires VR should I rather get a 5090 or should I change the whole platform, the memory and get a small card?
@jcugnoni
@jcugnoni 26 күн бұрын
In my opinion, you need at least a RTX 3080 or 4070 (or better) to use such high res VR headset. In terms of CPU and RAM it depends a lot on the game. A 9900k should work for lighter games but may struggle for heavy simulations like DCS and Flight Simulator.
@tijssens
@tijssens 20 күн бұрын
Does it still need base stations?
@zig131
@zig131 Ай бұрын
Eye tracking and Lighthouse tracking out-the-box, and they would have been onto a winner. As it is... They should at least sell a package where you get the Lighthouse faceplate bundled instead of the controllers.
@gwenen9124
@gwenen9124 Ай бұрын
You can do that ....
@Nobody-Nowhere
@Nobody-Nowhere Ай бұрын
They have that for the Crystal OG that has eye tracking... Pimax Crystal Sim Limited Edtion
@zig131
@zig131 Ай бұрын
@@Nobody-Nowhere As Tyriel points out though, the OG Crystal is significantly more expensive, and in many ways worse than the Crystal Lite.
@madigorfkgoogle9349
@madigorfkgoogle9349 Ай бұрын
@@zig131 OG is worse then the Light only in one way, there is battery in it which ads to the weight and shortens the VR session to battery life. On the other hand the OG is better balanced then the Light due to battery position. Anything else is better on OG Crystal then on Light.
@zaelu
@zaelu Ай бұрын
I like how this movie starts so optimistic and then derails into a usual "Pimax is garbage for people that are not fanbois" experience. You have to be a fanboi that plays just one game to buy this eggbox for eyes. Hey Tyrel... you forgot to tell the disclaimer I think... are you paid for the review? etc. Are you allowed to open it up and show it to us so we can laugh?? :D :D
@TugboatTony
@TugboatTony Ай бұрын
Really interested in this headset, but I'm worried that my 7700xt and 5800x3d are not going to keep up... Guess I'll stick to my quest pro...😢
@dippythebestboi
@dippythebestboi Ай бұрын
if a pimax headset doesnt have a horizontal fov higher than 120 then it doesnt matter.
@RobertA-hq3vz
@RobertA-hq3vz Ай бұрын
I've just bought the Quest 3 because they reduced the price. It's hard to think of the Pimax as being cost competitive against Quest.
@WittyGooseRacing
@WittyGooseRacing Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@EnzoBergstrom
@EnzoBergstrom Ай бұрын
Well they are not the same kind of headset.
@RobertA-hq3vz
@RobertA-hq3vz Ай бұрын
@@EnzoBergstrom yes, I'm aware. Its just that when you take all things into consideration Quest 3 is the better choice for most situations,
@goq9757
@goq9757 11 күн бұрын
Still bigger than my head 🤔
@antjones2281
@antjones2281 Ай бұрын
FYI Pimax sells a ratcheting top strap that works wonders. Also the upcoming Super versions are psvr2 size Here's a clip kzbin.infoUgkx5dpFwov1kNhAEAcjEQv8s0k8sq4EptTJ?si=DT8uoIGt6vYEttyM
@Paulie8K
@Paulie8K Ай бұрын
I use my Quest 3 about 60% for PCVR and 40% standalone and have been in the market for a dedicated PCVR headset, but unfortunately they almost all come with several flaws that put me off. Pimax just seems so bulky, doesn't use pancake lens, somewhat janky software from the many reviews I've watched, and grayscale passthrough to name a few. I'm hoping Valve can come out with a must-buy PCVR headset soon.
@tkdmp5698
@tkdmp5698 Ай бұрын
Valve is so stupid If they can make an index 2 with very good lenses and pimax Qled they will sell like crazy They would make so much money and people will be happy
@DKStanford
@DKStanford Ай бұрын
​@@tkdmp5698the problem with this reasoning is that Valve isn't really in the business of selling VR kit. Valve sells games on Steam, and they produce a few pieces of hardware to facilitate game sales. Valve doesn't need to make a new headset when millions of people are using Quest to play on Steam. If Valve was really interested in VR they would already have new kit announced. I'm not suggesting they'll never release a new headset but it is clearly a low priority for them. Consider this--literally the only thing Meta would need to do to destroy nearly all the competition is to add a Display Port to their next headset.
@tkdmp5698
@tkdmp5698 Ай бұрын
@@DKStanford This is not reasoning Im just angry that there is not a really good headset out there with no big problems or bad QC That is true though i would probably buy a DP Q3
@kangjames2492
@kangjames2492 Ай бұрын
I use world scale in steamvr and when using the openxr tool kit
@Gabeyre
@Gabeyre Ай бұрын
is it 3 or 4 KG?
@surfxcode
@surfxcode Ай бұрын
I received the PCL 1 month ago, had several issues with the following: - Comfort, the facial interface the device comes with causes actual pain and bruising on the nose. Because of that I need to keep the device loose and the heavy display-port cable made the device tilt. - Lenses: While they have a lot of potential, mine was a defective batch and it's very common, they have serious issues with Quality Control - Screens: No SDE at all, by far the clearest experience I had, but was unusable because of the lenses - Software: Terrible, mine kept going into a Connect/Disconnect feedback loop 5-10 mins in the headset, only after wearing it. I really wanted to love the device but had to send it back for a refund.
@Tyrielwood
@Tyrielwood Ай бұрын
It sounds like what happened to me with the first crystal, I talked about all that stuff in my old review
@surfxcode
@surfxcode Ай бұрын
​@@Tyrielwood Thank you for the reply, I have watched all your reviews on this. I am considering giving them a second chance in the future, when things have settled down a bit. Cheers, thank you for the awesome content !
@x32i77
@x32i77 Ай бұрын
You should try the Somnium vr1 headset then. Quality control and best visuals are number one priority for them
@PaulMcDonagh-rv6vc
@PaulMcDonagh-rv6vc Ай бұрын
Same problem. My lenses turned up today, and there even worst than the orginials. Sending the HMD back for a refund. I sooooo wanted to love this headset, the visuals on the screens are AMAZING. But they simply cannot provide usable lenses.
@madigorfkgoogle9349
@madigorfkgoogle9349 Ай бұрын
@@x32i77 Somnium is a Czech scam company, no thank you....
@goouimeko
@goouimeko Ай бұрын
Can it play beat saber
@bjrnchrstn
@bjrnchrstn Ай бұрын
Annoyingly it doesn’t fully shut out the light on the left and right side of my head. I don’t have a small head but still it lets in light. You can get foam solution for it but it hardly ever is on stock…. The fact that it hardly ever is on stock tells me that it is in high demand which means it is just a design flaw. Sucks tbh. Pimax should just either fix it or add thicker foam gaskets in the box.
@Bstky73
@Bstky73 Ай бұрын
How does it work when you said Microsoft stopped supporting virtual reality for Windows 11?
@neurokinetik
@neurokinetik Ай бұрын
Microsoft didn't stop supporting VR, they stopped supporting Windows Mixed Reality, which was like their own front end for VR, like Steam VR or Oculus. Unfortunately this renders some specific HMDs unusable as they were designed to be used with Windows MR and can't function without it.
@a5cent
@a5cent Ай бұрын
If you have the Pimax Crystal Light it's entirely irrelevant as it doesn't use WMR (Windows mixed reality). It is an OpenXR headset, which is what all headsets will be going forward.
@madigorfkgoogle9349
@madigorfkgoogle9349 Ай бұрын
@@neurokinetik actually the WMR is MS backend to VR, not the front end.
@bigbangerz5856
@bigbangerz5856 Ай бұрын
The VR headset no Meta content creator dares to talk about 😂
@kevinbrook7033
@kevinbrook7033 Ай бұрын
Probably because Pimax own 0.4 percent of the PC market versus Meta's 65 percent. It's not exactly strong competition.
@bigbangerz5856
@bigbangerz5856 Ай бұрын
​@@kevinbrook7033 nah its because nothing is better than MQ3 standalone apparently and to say so would destroy their world
@antjones2281
@antjones2281 Ай бұрын
Haha you're so right. It's bonkers to me with tech like this that they aren't at least beating out an OG Vive. HTC has release flop after flop since the cosmos and yet Pimax still can't seem to get past their reputation. Pimax could be so much higher ranked if they would design their hardware to be more reasonably sized.
@2ndLastJedi
@2ndLastJedi Ай бұрын
Is it mining in the background? Is that why you PC fans are going nuts?
@phillea708
@phillea708 Ай бұрын
Can you tell me is it wide fov
@antjones2281
@antjones2281 Ай бұрын
No
@Nekotaku_TV
@Nekotaku_TV Ай бұрын
1:55 And there they lost me... Even if you can get the headset to track with basestations it wont do it for the controllers. But I guess there is more things that aren't good enough anyway. *sigh*
@AuxiarMolkhun
@AuxiarMolkhun Ай бұрын
The only value I find in picking Pimax over any competitors at similar price point is their large field of view. My ideal headset is a 120hz, high field of view headset, but preferably one that doesn't cost the price of a new PC for VR. How is the field of view in this one? The no local dimming option seems like it's exactly what I'm looking for despite the sudden lack of availability, but if the field of view is the standard one found in most headsets today then it's not even worth considering anymore for me.
@SargonDragon
@SargonDragon Ай бұрын
The Crystal Light has a FOV of 103. Actually a little less than the Quest 3. Pimax isn't doing the wide FOV thing anymore.
@AuxiarMolkhun
@AuxiarMolkhun Ай бұрын
@@SargonDragon That's unfortunate and quite the shame.
@llamalandYT
@llamalandYT Ай бұрын
Discount code doesn't work 😓
@Tyrielwood
@Tyrielwood Ай бұрын
let me check
@Tyrielwood
@Tyrielwood Ай бұрын
they told me this: you need to click the 'Checkout' then fill in the code, it works. (The cache problem caused by the website so that this code display is invalid in the Add to Cart page, after 2 hours or so will be fine)
@lurchilurch5507
@lurchilurch5507 Ай бұрын
Aspheric lenses are "dimm"? Compared to what, Fresnel? Pancakes are MUCH dimmer
@antjones2281
@antjones2281 Ай бұрын
Yep, so much misinformation.
@Fiztex553
@Fiztex553 Ай бұрын
I'll take the next one if it will be on pancakes for simulators - don't like aspherical as well, so this one is not for me as well. Quest 3 has set a really high mark for combination of lenses and comfort for me (not with original strap, of course), so I hope Pimax can compete and provide a good inside-out tracking based PCVR solution with good displays for around ~$1k.
@RandomNoise
@RandomNoise Ай бұрын
sponsored video. I have Pimax Crystal Light, and I can tell you, it is not near as good as youtubers are presenting it. very cheap, bad tracking, motion blur, bad lenses, software is a nightmare...
@Alienbeing444
@Alienbeing444 Ай бұрын
Bro how on earth is it an upgrade. It is a downgrade for a cheaper price which is smart for marketing and getting sales. To say that the same EXACT product but with many more extreme features is meh does not make any sense. The software back then was very buggy before this came out but now it is amazing like the software on this one. So there is nothing meh the OG full speced crystal it is the best vr headset I have ever used with a max speced pc. I am waiting for the Pimax Crystal Super that will be the end of competition until some other business has the balls to invest in this quality of future tech.
@hb-hr1nh
@hb-hr1nh Ай бұрын
I get neck fatigue after 2 hours with the quest 3 and psvr2, so no thanks.
@tomoprime217
@tomoprime217 Ай бұрын
Always feel like Pimax goes half the distance with every iteration. 😂 The next index will be way better by the time they figure this out
@antjones2281
@antjones2281 Ай бұрын
I don't know man, their Super lineup looks tight.
@dharkbizkit
@dharkbizkit Ай бұрын
for hat, it has to release. were waiting for years already and there are just rumors at this point and some of those rumors, sound bad to me, at least in terms of what i want from an index 2. i want a crystal competitor, but rumors suggest a quest 3 competitor
@Dronetothetop
@Dronetothetop Ай бұрын
With the controller, it is over $1000. Already have a Quest 3 so I’ll just pass.
@antjones2281
@antjones2281 Ай бұрын
Through the lens, but do it with the quality you used to do them 5 years ago , youre recent ones have been pretty crummy.
@sennahoj6741
@sennahoj6741 Ай бұрын
buying anything above quest 3 is just not worth it
@edgarsi
@edgarsi Ай бұрын
not yet agree.. and just the quality of materials meta provides is out of competition
@SouperMaruchan
@SouperMaruchan Ай бұрын
My mom had made me some Crystal Light and it was way cheaper than this
@rapidey3movement360
@rapidey3movement360 Ай бұрын
Really don't trust this company...the fact that the standalone is still busted.... 🤦🏾‍♂️
@bastareims5737
@bastareims5737 Ай бұрын
You have obviously and pretty clearly not used the latest Pimax software. Lol and ciao.
@Tyrielwood
@Tyrielwood Ай бұрын
@@bastareims5737 it's kind of hard to use the headset without it you know 😅
@Munky332
@Munky332 Ай бұрын
Pimax aint it chief. Their Quality Control and Customer Service is dogshit. There's a reason their reviews on amazon are in the dumpster. They keep pulling them from the amazon store and trying to relist them... I went through FOUR trying to get a good one, until they got fed up with trying to help me and tried to tell me they didn't want to warranty any more... until I ran a chargeback on my credit card, then all of a sudden it was "Oh, here's a return label so you can send it back". after that I was done. Quest 3 has been treating me well for the most part. Just a shame they didn't offer an option for true PCVR only users to go straight display-port over USB-C.
@DasJev
@DasJev Ай бұрын
To bad they cherry pick review units and the commercial quality product is just trash
@realalive4844
@realalive4844 Ай бұрын
Vr only for cinema not for games apple thinks better 🎉
@diyvrchannel3414
@diyvrchannel3414 Ай бұрын
Bad scaling ? this is a BIG NO NO = pukes posible. 4090 needed ? this HMD is a joke. Another joke from Pimax hahaha. Stund Up comedy hardware xD its always funny to hear about next Pimax beuheuhe ;-) and Price lol ... good joke Pimax :D another ood joke ;-p waiting for the next one ;-)
@goobydntfear
@goobydntfear Ай бұрын
so it still the usual pimax garbage, half baked implementation of everything
@jibhalyard6721
@jibhalyard6721 20 күн бұрын
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