The Portrayal Of Apathy Through Anime

Apathy is an emotion or feeling that a lot of people experience and it's also an emotion displayed in media. In this video I cover some anime that do a good job of displaying apathy as well as shows that don't.
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[@2liip]

I’m only 27 pages into the light novel for Classroom Of The Elite but it’s already evident how different the main character is in here as compared to the show. So please keep in mind that the Ayanokoji talked about in the video is solely the anime representation. Thanks to everyone who pointed it out.

[@coldrelite6368]

Oh thank god. I was about to say "My condolences for not being able to read the LN of cote"

[@unknownentity5354]

I was just about to say this

[@BazzyBaka]

Do you have any interest in making a video on Ayanokouji, Hikigaya, or Oreki in the future?

[@Whysp]

whats different about LN Ayanokoji from Anime Ayanokoji?

[@2liip]

@@Whysp The anime focusses heavily on the mysterious and meticulous side of his character, but the LN portrays him as a normal person simply trying to befriend people with a mysterious past. Similar, but not the same by any means.

[@k3kli0n12]

Honestly, so many want to appear apathetic because it’s an edgy phase or because they want to portray their favourite characters, but genuinely having an outlook like this sucks. So many people think it’s as simple as “oh I’m just smarter than anyone” but in reality you have nobody to relate to, nobody who understands how you feel, and more often than not this means you have trouble receiving love and giving it out to others.

[@sahilrahman5066]

It's not the feeling of being smart really it's more of wanting to do something but not half way through which ends up leaving you not doing anything at all or at list that how i felt for a while

[@jetuitocastro]

This. It always comes across to me like the people who want to appear apathetic don't quite comprehend what it seems to be truly apathetic, and it sorta brings down my entire perception/sympathy for 'apathy'.

[@ayatoculus]

yeah. you just feel numb and really empty, and you become complacent when everything around you is going to shit. it’s not a good mindset at all. the reason i ended up this way at some point was actually because i was failing my classes. it really has nothing to do with being intelligent and it has everything to do with needing a shitty coping mechanism for your very emotionally straining situations. you shouldn’t lock your emotions up and away because you just end up caring about absolutely nothing which can lead to you making detrimental decisions in your life

[@maryam8029]

Yeah, I appreciate how many characters are like in anime though because its nice to see relatable struggles and especially the ones where the character slowly learns to open up

[@MrDiMES123]

Nah it’s cool af that’s why we love ayankoji

[@NightRavenOz]

Apathy is best portrayed in *"A Silent Voice!"*

[@redundancyii7015]

I was thinking so as well!

[@almostmonk5523]

Yeah, at least it's most realistic than other edgy characters.

[@jimohabdulqudus4283]

@@almostmonk5523 Like which edgy characters

[@jonwicked7031]

How

[@jimbo7551]

noyes nabari sutsuki ou

[@eddi2565]

One thing that always troubled me was how people around me would always say " How can you be so calm in this situation? How can you mantain your mind clear and not go crazy" and i've always thought it was because I was just a rational person thinking that it doesn't make any sense to scream, cry, or vent about stuff when its already happened . Only after watching the way Hachiman acted, I actually started noticing some similar traits and patterns which, kind of scared me. I've never described myself as an apathic person but I've always felt like I was a calmer person than average.

[@eve_______]

I mean but fr, how can anyone take life seriously. It is way too facilitating and exciting, I understand that not for all the facilitating part is true, but hey part of identity is reflection of your past experiences, and I wouldn’t mind a villain arc, after all in pursuit of truth we don’t discriminate with pleasantries or setbacks.

[@theone8602]

@@eve_______ it's giving 12

[@DripMoment]

Same for me, but just saying that wouldn't make anyone convinced ofc. However simply yes, I feel this, getting Called a robot or sociopathical just bc I lack outward emotion is frustrating but I'm too tired out to care.

[@eve_______]

@@theone8602 It took Picasso 4 years to draw like Raphael but a lifetime to draw like a kid. So maybe you are on the right track.

[@killuatard3533]

@@DripMoment same

[@DrewTeter]

You mentioned apathy caused by being too good at something (lack of challenge) leading to boredom and apathy caused by loneliness and depression (detatchment). However,, I think there's also a third type of apathy. The kind of apathy where you're in a situation and you don't have any good options, so you just... accept whatever is about to happen (fatalism). You might pick the least bad option, but you don't really care because you've given up hope of being able to find anything better. So you just go though the motions, making choices you don't believe in because you've accepted that nothing you do is going to make much of a difference. In the worst case scenario, this can become a cycle that's extremely hard to break without external intervention.

[@DevinEllsworth]

very well said, thank you

[@lunagrace2872]

Yep same, mine is due to medical illness that can’t be treated so I’m in perpetual pain and disappointment with doctors and any results from treatment.

[@dead4gaming779]

I agree

[@cosmolosys]

That's interesting. What do you think about apathy caused by traumatic experiences? Like having a consistent traumatic childhood? I feel like all kinds of apathy are kind of detached. But in case of a traumatic childhood, I wouldn't really categorize it as loneliness and depression or necessarily fatalism?

[@Pain-95]

@@lunagrace2872seems like death could have been a better option or nonexisted. The total despair.

[@Blah2000Blah]

Best apathy portrayal in anime is Shinichi from Parasyte: the Maxim. His realization that he was behaving abnormally and doubts about his own humanity are very relatable in a way that isn't too forced.

[@2liip]

I LOVE THAT SHOW

[@yash1756]

Although everyone tends to appreciate the show, I felt like the show was a complete disappointment, compared to the amount of positive opinions it receives. The story does not have a central theme apart from the character turning into something of an 'alien'. It goes something along the Tokyo Ghoul way, except the ending is pretty anti-climatic and sudden. Also there's a sudden, forced, 'protect the environment ' message at the end which basically came out of nowhere. I mean did Migi accidentally just remembered that day that humans have been polluting the environment? And then temporarily the show behaves as if it had been leading to this conclusion all way along, when it's clear that it didn't. There was no foreshadowing or hints dropped related to the ' environment stuff ' at all in the show. At the end, while most people rate it 8-10/10, to me it felt like a lost potential mostly and it could've been the next Tokyo Ghoul. Overall 5/10 at most

[@vhsrj_]

crazy thing is ayanokoji is someone who displays apathy cause he's bored like oreki but because hes completely emotionless lol, he wants to do normal things but those stuff were took from him

[@rajkishansingh589]

no, it's mentioned that he wants to stay in the background and not attract any attention. He wasn't bored with anything. He has great mental and physical capabilities but dislikes boasting about them.

[@fw.tr4sh]

He wants to be normal, and in the novels has expressed a desire to feel love or change his “all people are tools mindset.” He is considered by the white room to be the “masterpiece” however he doesn’t want to be. Reading the novels and the lines about how he knows he can never be free of the white room but will resist until the bitter end is quite saddening in my opinion.

[@deadcorpse69]

@@fw.tr4sh i guess you could say he's the victim of his own environment?

[@giveupndie4559]

how can a 200iq psychopathic lab rat kid be normal, he’s such a fun character to watch

[@vhsrj_]

@@rajkishansingh589 are you dumb? Obviously he doesn’t want attention but he wants emotions back to just be a normal human

[@crystalshard1349]

My theory about why apathy would be so well portrayed in anime as opposed to other media is that work culture in japan is depressingly meaningless, working to maintain; not create, share, enrich, just to keep expectations as they are. As such these writers would have friends that have felt like this or felt it themselves.

[@kristoffer2250]

Jesus

[@CharredCrow]

as someone who just stumbled on this looking for more apathetic characters because it’s the mood i’ve felt for so many years, i’m looking forward to watching Oregairu now. the series (while not the best but still my favorite) that literally started my apathetic understanding as a kid was Nabari No Ou, which has its issues but after the first three episodes just tells a story i wasn’t it expecting to go down. it has some of my favorite characters in it and both Miharu and Yoite speak to me on a physical level.

[@2liip]

I haven't seen Nabari No Ou but now I'll definitely give it a try. I'm glad you liked the video enough to want to watch Oregairu! Genuinely one of my favorite shows.

[@quantummechanized2975]

this explains so much why i dont really care most the time, when i was younger i never took much notice in others, i found people boring so i put my focus alternating between focusing on figuring out the nature of reality and nature itself to running around climbing trees, i was always the fastest and i connect well with my intalectual side, though im dyslexic but dont care so maybe i just dont care what others think about me even if my opinion of them isnt low

[@fireskull3334]

I feel like the cycle of hachiman is he does actions, those actions change others perspectives of him. Leading those people to change him.

[@2liip]

That's a really good way to sum up Hachiman. His actions are often good spirited in the sense that he wants to help people and, because of that, those people want to help him back .

[@Mufflin]

It's insane how much more apathy is portrayed in the LN of cote, the way Ayanokoji describes his action's while realising the average individual's reaction towards him and his plans/ideas is wildly different as they clearly display an expression of confusion or doubt is such a strong juxtaposition towards the reader. Great content my dude.

[@ddrcrono]

An angle that most people miss is the Japanese cultural one. Japan is one of the safest, most risk-adverse societies with very burdensome social rules. A lot of people experience the inflexibility and lack of freedom in everything as an extreme sort of boredom and can feel that choices don't really matter. The feeling of apathy, passiveness and indifference is something that permeates much of Japanese society.

[@earthboundisawsome]

The part about projecting yourself into the character hits really hard. I can't imagine how much time in my life, especially when I was younger, that I probably spent doing this. For me it was a form of inspiration. I could compare my apathy to having really severe writers block (except towards personal development/life). Watching these types of characters always brought me hope that I could take a step forward even wihout being able to feel it out whilr in a state of apathy. I've been to dark places, but this helped me stay out of so many more.

[@justandy3438]

I really like how you analyse each character in a "critical thinking" way. Keep up the good work! This kind of content really deserves more attention.

[@2liip]

Ty Ty

[@ashenito]

I have these weird ”waves” of apathy where i don’t feel anything, all emotionall connection to people (i ”love”) get severed, i treat people like shit, just cause i don’t care. Then like a day or 2 later im ”normal” again and start feeling bad about the shit that i did (tho usually im happy i did what i did because it ends with me being better off, and i both hate myself for it but am also thankful for it)

[@shi707ro]

Bro same do you know why it happens?

[@ashenito]

@@shi707ro cuz we sociopaths XD

[@shi707ro]

@@ashenito nah i can't believe that I really need an answer tho

[@ashenito]

@@shi707ro idk, mabye people like us just work in a different way? I think its something deeper than just like; a feeling. You know? Hope you figure it out though, i dont feel like i want to find out why, because i might not like the answer, but thats just me haha

[@shi707ro]

@@ashenito yeah i agree with you but this thing is actually ruining my healthy relationships and i can't seem to find a solution xD anyway i'll keep searching

[@thespiceinclover798]

Apathy is a form of avoidance. Avoidance is a hell to get over. Personally, my apathy appeared after my anxiety got so bad that I stopped trying to fight it: aka, I burnt out. I don't want people to think that apathy is a valid coping mechanism. When I hear about these romanticizations of apathy, I start to think if my own mental illness can become a strength or whether it's really a bad thing.

[@2liip]

Oh definitely. I think the last thing people should do is normalize these kinds of feelings, but I do think that knowing and understanding what's wrong is one of the first steps towards bettering oneself.

[@charvaka5705]

I depends...sometimes apathy toward some circumstances can help you think of clearing it through it with a rational mind. Though normalizeing it as something is bad for one's social life.

[@darshankhaire9123]

Really liked that someone is giving attention to Hyouka. It's one of the best anime yet highly underrated. The depressed guys edit has made a bad presentation about Oreki. He is not depressed but he is lazy. And the laziness is shown on his face. He is not enthusiastic. But storyline and character developments make Hyouka a must watch anime. It has good animation along with good sound effects.

[@nimrod812]

An Apathetic character I like is "Wang Ling" from "The Daily life of the Immortal King" which is a Chinese anime. I would categorize him as a mix between Saitama (One Punch Man) and Mob (Mob Psycho 100). This is due to him being way too strong for any kind of challenge and because his emotions are suppressed.

[@jenkathefridge3933]

He has a item which suppresses his emotions because it will destroy the world

[@ashishpatil06]

Apathy shown in anime looks cool but in reality it is extremely difficult to deal with. Yes, it helps with dealing witn breakups or loss as if doesnt emotionally impact you, but you loose emotion from rest of the things as well. I have been suffering through it for years, finding it difficult to get out of bed and feeling motivated to even do anything. Even when my loved ones died there were times when i found it hard to even cry whereas i should have been heart broken. There are some sparks of emotion at random times in the middle of the night when suddenly i wake up from a dream and start feeling emotional to cry my eyes out, but it all goes back next day. I used to think of it as a superpower, as a switch to turn of my emotions and not feel pain when i was younger but now i would give anything to feel anything be it sadness, happiness, jealousy. One day i was talking to my friend when i said i dont want anything more in my life , i am content that even if I die it is ok. At that point we both realized how serious my condition had become that i had even lost my motivation to live. I have been improving day by day slowly by giving myself small tasks or quests to feel productive and motivated.

[@MABfan11]

i think one of the best portrayals of apathy has to be Subaru's backstory in Re:Zero season 2

[@BibsOnNet]

This was such a nice view and analysis on the characters mentioned! And seeing Aomine being referenced, while I recently started watching the anime and really rooting for the guy, made me consider his conundrum of "The only one who could beat me is me" in a completely different light! I hope you keep up the amazing work. Can't wait to see your next analysis video!

[@linksel3034]

I have never heard of apathy before, but I think I might have experienced it for a while. A Kind of sudden fear that nothing I could ever do, would ever matter and there was no future worth living. I think it's a kind of loneliness, because that was at a time when I had no one I could share my experiences with. That happend during my Holidays. Once I got back to school and had a "classtrip"(I hope that's the translation) I stopped having this feeling. Still I sometimes have the feeling that I will never be as invested into anything as in the past. That's usually when I ate Ramen noodles from certain brands. Still I eat them

[@rawrx]

Thats not apayhy but more likely anxiety or depression. The video is not correct since apathy is not an emotion but rather the lack of emotion.

[@DripMoment]

I just feel like I want to dissappear, like I'm pretty sure I'm an apathetic person. And its not a good thing.. I get called names for it and ofc some think I'm just " acting " so I look cringe to others, I just feel so dead inside and empty I just don't want to exist. Everything is technically purposeless. But I'll still try, I want to learn lots anyways, that's probably only because if I have nothing else to show than my face then I'd just be another nobody in a crowd of people.

[@DripMoment]

Being apathetic especially sucks bc I do actually really relate to ayanokoji, but when or if I say that I just look cringe, like a personality rider. So I just stay quiet until I'm asked something, most of the time

[@DripMoment]

Ofc I'm not a great fighter unlike ayanokoji, but. Yk

[@acutelilmint8035]

@@rawrx ya apathy is literally you feel nothing.. it’s not an emotion. Nothing affects you, you don’t react .. it’s a lack of care especially for others. Someone can be on fire.. and you just shrug and walk away.. no one should want to be apathetic but apathy is playing the world right now. The lack of caring for another is incredibly scary..

[@bronsontaylor4203]

my dude, this video is so well done and i really thank you for how well you articulated your points

[@Kiwikick238]

Real moments of apathy hurt in a way where you think you are broken. I wonder why I can’t feel the same way many people do about certain things. I can understand their feelings but I never experience it. I think my apathy came from an abusive childhood so my response was to feel either happiness or nothing at all. Any other feeling couldn’t show or things would get messy. Now I feel like I have no depth to my emotions at times. I want to be passionate or but it also feels fake because I have the think myself into about feeling that way. I tell myself I should be mad at this situation but I just can’t… idk

[@dead4gaming779]

@Slip Right now , I have been apathetic for 6 months , I wanted to do everything yet I couldn't due to my situation and now I'm feeling nothing and just want to do what everyone else can do or what I was able to do , I have found many things that this situation is called including *numbness* or *emotional* *numbness* . This is the first time actually when I have heard about apathy and I thank you for making this video as it relates to me deeply and I think your deep understanding of apathy stems from yourself being apathetic or you once we're , either way I thank you for making this video.

[@cwcpants140]

Apathy is literally the defining characteristic of “Shikabane” from Aggretsuko tbh. Her name also means “Corpse” in Japanese.

[@NightWink129]

What a great breakdown video! I watched an interview segment of the mangaka for Attack on Titan. He was describing why he created such a story and how he relates to Eren the most, putting much of himself into the character, or projecting (in the way you used the term). His words were very dark, but they touched my heart, along with his facial expression. He is a great example of real-to-life apathy, AND he directly weaved it into Eren Jaeger, even before the character's apathetic transition in season 4.

[@XxBMCBxX]

The analysis with examples were on point, enjoyed it alot, good stuff ^^

[@2liip]

I'm glad you liked it

[@m-0x]

I'm very late to seeing this video, but as someone who has had many lengthy apathetic episodes, i loved this video. It's strange to go through a time where you struggle to care about or feel anything, and explaining it to someone else is difficult. I was unfamiliar with most of these characters besides Kotaro from Hyouka, one of my favorite characters ever, so i enjoyed seeing more characters that portray this emotion well. This also got me to finally watch Oregairu! My personal favorite character that displays apathy is probably Rei Kiriyama from sangatsu no lion. He probably falls into the "unchallenged" group, but at the same time he struggles to go up the ranks despite being a prodigy. It's difficult to explain, but his story and how he dealt with his depression and apathy were really inspiring to me.

[@2liip]

I'm glad! I need to watch sangatsu no lion so badly 😭. one day.. :)

[@deathreaperlx6650]

So this is the emotion I've been feeling this whole time, I never knew that this emotion had a name.

[@acutelilmint8035]

Apathy isn’t an emotion. It’s literally the epitome of no emotion. Apathy comes from not caring at all for other people or external environment. You do t want to be apathetic. It’s not something to be proud of. I think what you’re feeling is emptiness. That’s a feeling, it hurts.. apathy doesn’t hurt. Literally.. a robot is apathetic, lonely , depressed and being empty is like someone squeezing your chest but there nothing there

[@deathreaperlx6650]

@@acutelilmint8035 Well I might just be being emo or something like that because to me, saying that I'm apathetic makes me cringe, but I have no problem with being this way.

[@Shimazumi]

Man this is such a well done video, It's hard to believe it was from such a small corner of the internet, but seriously it was really well done. On another topic though your "many people, have experienced loneliness, many people have hated themselves and many people have wanted to do something about themselves so badly but never lifted a finger to do so" hit way to close to home, as someone who has wanted to change for years, yet never actually do anything to change or if I do never following suite. So that hurt, but I'd also like to add, my form of Apathy was something back in the day I used to put up to prevent myself from harm, or so I thought. As such with my disappointment with most of the world, I used it as a barrier to trick myself into believing I didn't care. Nowday's I have much more to hold onto and much more to lose, friends, family and others. But I do believe that apathy comes in its own flavour for everyone. This was my little internet rant, feel free to ignore it.

[@JadenLightvale]

Spoiler warning for OMORI because im dumb: A form of apathy not shown in anime but in a video game is Sunny from OMORI. Sunny has been apathetic since he was the cause of his old sisters death (sorry for spoilers if you haven’t played) which has been for four years now in the story. He has forced down his emotions and instead chooses to reside in his own headspace away from the harsh reality of the real world.

[@nilladrawsstuff]

Yess I immediately thought of Sunny!

[@AKei1412]

it would've been easier if you put a warning instead of an apology for said spoiler 🗿

[@NekuraRei]

I would have appreciated a spoiler warning beforehand :/

[@garlicbread4792]

Dude the spoiler warning is supposed to come BEFORE the spoiler. I planned to play this game but now it's been spoiled :/

[@suyu536]

@@garlicbread4792 i found out this spoiler before i played too bc i wanted to know abt the game before playing. But its still a REALLY good game and still my fav

[@reneebrave3713]

Really enjoyed watching this video man

[@oronsnibben]

I like they way you pointed out how they all felt apathy differently. Seem like it always stems from indifference? As in, not having someone to relate to or at the least perceive it that way

[@namae6637]

The depth of the emotional connection I felt to 8man is simply something I can't put into words. I've been apathetic in a very similar way for a very long time, and the feeling is indescribable seeing that there is a road back from this life, it was as if there were the tiniest glimmer of hope for the first time in a long time.

[@hafidzsatria9111]

Dude I Thought this was an atleast 300k subscribers channel. You deserve more subs. SUBBED. great video.

[@menoskaiju8834]

This is such an awesome video, i dont know why but i felt like crying toward the end ahah. Got a sub from me, keep up the great work.

[@Trickester1000]

being able to truly empathize with others is a gift.

[@jhinisicecream6631]

this was a good video your take is genuinely interesting and delivered well

[@connorjparker]

Huh, I hadn't really thought about he nuances of this. Thanks for laying it out so clearly.

[@moyaalbert3157]

Aww slip this was very well made, keep up the good work fr!

[@2liip]

yo no soy un femboy >:((( (high school spanish coming in clutch)

[@CallmeQuavo]

god dam this was a great video.. great choice of words👏🏽

[@shanayajoshi1474]

I liked your views and the way you explained them whenever I'm not able to decide what i wanna watch i do go through videos like these just to decide.... Never thought much on these videos but yours got connected somewhere.... Anyway just wanted to say that loved it

[@2liip]

I'm glad you found it when you needed it! Thanks a ton for watching!!

[@BoiFluffyFurry21]

I'll be real, it feels apathetic rn. I just transferred to another school, and it feels my motivation sooo drained. I used to feel so motivated in putting so much effort in my homework, and Art be sure I'm soo excited. Rn it feels Idc about what's happening in the friends lives, the knew franchises, and I don't feel excited drawing as much as I missed the feeling of getting lost in the art.

[@JustBe776]

Let's be honest we all needed this video

[@sleepie2410]

Bruh why only 500 subs this is such a great video!

[@timvlogtv512]

Living life with the "it is what it is" attitude yeah...

[@kleinmedialab]

9:47 I don t know why i subscribes... great video bro keep it up

[@CandyThePuppy]

Your little breakdown there at the end. XD So cute lol

[@fireskull3334]

I came from the oregairu subreddit, and genuinely enjoyed your video. 👌

[@C4Kevin]

Hey, Calc. I love that song.

[@AOAND]

That was so good, thank you

[@soggycracker5934]

My Teen RomCom was brutal to watch the first time. Though, it is refreshing to see an anime protag with a wholesome and healthy relationship with his family.

[@RainbowEssence-c3w]

Very interesting and detailed analysis! I don't see apathy as a subject that's covered all that often in anime analysis videos (at least I don't think?) I think to some extent, yeah, everybody feels apathetic sometimes and experience the different types of apathy (the kind you feel due to loneliness vs the kind you feel because something is too easy, like playing on Very Easy mode in a video game). In the field of psychology we refer to apathy as "emotional blunting" which can result from Depression and other mental illnesses. As someone who suffers from Depression and who has also struggled with fitting in, i can definitely relate. I can relate to the apathetic feeling you get when things are too easy, too (sorry, I'm not trying to come off as arrogant). In school I became apathetic because I didn't think anybody really liked me or wanted to be my friend. For the most part I avoided others, kept to myself, and yeah I remember how it felt. I'm lucky to have found some good friends anyway that put in the effort to get to know me despite my lack of trying. Still I remember how it felt, walking around the playground at recess when those few good friends weren't around, or being in gym class and not having a gym partner, or simply preferring to just walk around the track the entire class time instead. I don't know whether or not my classmates truly thought I was weird or whether they were actually actively avoiding me, but that didn't matter because, whatever the reality of the situation, I perceived them as not liking me. And that led to me isolating myself, and feeling resentment towards my peers. I'm ashamed to say, I was rather immature back then. I partially coped with my loneliness by looking down on my classmates, thinking I was smarter and more mature than them. I put the blame on them for my lack of social skills, when maybe that wasn't really fair. Maybe my classmates didn't dislike me, maybe they didn't think I was "weird" or "annoying". But I'll never know, because I just retreated further into myself instead of trying to reach out. Sorry haha, I didn't mean to go off on a tangent or make this all about me. Anyway, I guess moral of the story is don't assume automatically that people don't like you or that you don't have a chance with someone. You'll never know until you try, or as basketball player Wayne Gretzky said "You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take." If I could do it again I think I would try a little harder to connect with my peers and make more friends.

[@ChimeraLotietheBunny]

I love how varied apathetic characters in anime are..as an empethatic person..understand apathy as a whole is inspiring!!!

[@acutelilmint8035]

No it’s video is not accurate, apaghynid NOT inspiring.. it’s a root of evil. I think people are confusing things, but the closest to pure apathy is a robot.

[@knkootbaoat6759]

Very good video. I enjoyed watching it. Idk about your "analysis" of Ayanokoji (even assuming an anime-only pov and not mentioning the ln). It's probably "your experience" as you said at 0:38 and my experience that lead to the difference in perspectives. This is where I would insert my essay on the analysis of Ayanokoji as a character but I want to hold off until the series is over (most likely in 5-6 years) and also read other kinds of literature.

[@2liip]

Yeah I'm anime only but reading what people have said is making want to read the LN. Based on the LN, the entire Ayanokoji part may be invalid. Thanks for bringing it up and I'd love to read your essay on his character tbh

[@knkootbaoat6759]

@@2liip I don't want to overhype the light novels too much. but the anime is ok (very interesting ending) but imho the light novels are a masterpiece. I hope you read them and enjoy them as much as I did. One day I'm writing that essay for sure :)

[@2liip]

@@knkootbaoat6759 Be sure to let me read it when you do write it

[@knkootbaoat6759]

@@2liip bet

[@morang9202]

Apathy is also displayed extremely well through the character of Kanao Tsuyuri in Demon Slayer. Because of her miserable, abusive past, she completely broke and struggled to feel any emotion whatsoever. As the series goes on, however, she's motivated and emboldened by the friends and family beside her and manages to slowly be able to feel more and connect more over time. It's done very beautifully.

[@terraventusaqua123]

Quality video. Keep up the good work. 👍 -Subscriber #17

[@2liip]

Welcome Subscriber #17

[@dead4gaming779]

I currently think that you're my favorite KZbinr.

[@bornanime3255]

The apathy I've felt over the course of my life probably comes from mainly alienation. Alienation by being too good at certain skills, from not being good at talking to people, from no one understanding my emotions or interests, etc. It's fun to see a variety of characters going through the motions

[@CandyThePuppy]

Your little breakdown there at the end. XD

[@adararelgnel2695]

I developed apathy from INTENSE INTENSE boredom. Boredom has thus far been the most PAINFUL emotion I have ever felt. Its so empty, its so defeating, it feels like there's no solution. When I was going through a miscarriage, I opened up my old journals from when I was in highschool and read about how bored and empty I was and it was honestly so comforting because yes I was going through a misscariage, bleeding out, losing a baby, but ATLEAST I wasnt bored!

[@keebo3385]

Weirdly relatable

[@UnknownEntity-69]

this

[@Skorak]

At least for me, Apathy is something Akin to a room. That room has a couch and infinite hallways leading out of it. Some people look down the hallways and see darkness, but like the walls or the carpet and thus pick a hallway and start walking down it. However, some people have better eyesight and can see the end of the hallways. They see the same dead end -or what seems to them as the same dead end- at the end of every hallway and decide "Since it's all the same, I might as well stay in the room because the couch is comfortable"

[@2liip]

Genuinely a really good analogy. Complacency is very self destructive though, sometimes you have to walk to the end regardless of how uninteresting it seems.

[@arsong9723]

sick video dude

[@lancemckenzie1074]

Mate, good video.

[@annoyingcat5328]

this is a good video. I should check out your other videos

[@enderpyre]

places that CSM meme of Denji going "Damn he just like me FR!" in here

[@Bruhecc]

Nah this was good to watch, thanks for posting!

[@maxnederhof3215]

dope video man

[@NerdOracle]

Why am I getting all choked up bro..

[@acolourfuldreamer]

This is such a good, well-made video. The first time I watched Hyouka, I was weirded out by how similar he was to my cousin. She was bored with most things that she did. I mean, she was (and still is) really talented, can pick up most skills and figure them out really quickly, but she just become so bored with things. She really liked One punch man and heavily related to Saitama. Then she got married, fell pregnant, and now she is due, and I haven't heard her say she is bored yet. I guess pregnancy is really challenging 😅.

[@seva7l630]

u got such a sweet voice in the end

[@Zashuu_7004]

Very Enjoyable Very well explained Nice

[@jacoblathrop4227]

I don’t know if I would have “apathy”, but I do feel that deep loneliness even though I have friends. It feels like I just can’t connect with anyone. The feeling of loneliness in a group is the worst.

[@acheroneclypse277]

I've never watched the last show you talked about, but what you described makes it the most real portrayal of apathy. There's no real reason behind it. You just don't care about anything. I was very much like this before, and it would hurt a lot of people around me. My family would be hurt because I didn't care to spend time with them, I didn't tell them I loved them because I never felt that kind of emotion. I didn't want to spend time with anyone, because it was always a bother. I'd much prefer to spend time alone, just sitting in my room. People always wanted to spend time with me, and I'd go if they really forced me to, but I never wanted to. In real life, I don't think apathy would have anything to do with being superior, and that would branch into narcissism. People don't have these super powers that would make them strictly superior to others like super strength or intelligence. I think people only relate to these apathetic characters more because you're told the reason why they are like they are, but in truth, it's the less realistic portrayal of the emotion.

[@sattubhai6457]

u really deserve a mill subs

[@keishawnproctor-vaughn9152]

Hey, I loved your video and your outro lol

[@b.8662]

very good vid

[@fiskitti]

nice job m’guy

[@lon_okami6863]

I can relate with the apathic portrayal that you've given. Very detailed explanation man 💯

[@2liip]

Thanks!!

[@whathell6t]

@@2liip What about Evangelion? That franchise has multiple apathetic moments.

[@2liip]

@@whathell6t I actually binged just half a year ago. Really good show!!

[@sashaplay4535]

That's the nerdy talk i like to hear

[@ImDaRealBoi]

I'm happy saitama is starting to get people into his life like Genos and King. This video just reminded me of how much they mean to him now.

[@orboakin8074]

Best Apathetic anime character for me is Akira from Battle Game 5 Seconds. Not only does he have the mannerisms but he actually learns how to overcome them and be a more open and trusting character.

[@scottrossback]

My 3 favorite anime character ever in the thumbnail

[@iamtwoawesomes]

Though I watched it years ago, Hyouka really made an impression on me in its first few episodes. They were a few visual metaphors that showed a complete sensory overwhelm from mundane circumstances that I really related to. And while for me it was an overflow phenomenon rather than an all the time thing like in the show, I related to Oreki’s lethargy and shutting down in the face of that overload. So I was a little disappointed that Oreki’s exposure therapy was so effective, haha! Getting forced out of his comfort zone was really good for him, but I wish we got to see more persistent or relapsing stress.

[@whyso7871]

you re so sweet. thank you for the video.

[@caidanmorriss4078]

Thank you!

[@afrotuned]

does nagi seishiro from blue lock fall under the apathetic character category? also do you think you will make a video covering nagi seishiro's personality and or trope similar to how you did with this video? :)

[@tp_slk4123]

I Love the way they showed it in Horimiya. Just how one Person can Change your way of thinking so much

[@kungszigfrids1482]

If I where given godlike powers I would never grow bored. I have wisdom so apretiate the calm and dont want anything out of the ordinary. Its interesting how most people dont want to live a normal life until they expierience a bunch of problems and wish they could go back to living normally. For me godlike powers would just solve all my problems and I would then exist in a state of peaceful bliss (when I dont go out having fun being able to do literally anything I want).

[@MathematicalJoeBiden]

This video convinced me to watch classroom of the elite - and I was blown away. In certain parts, (you can probably guess which parts this WASN'T the case in) Ayanokoji felt like... me. It felt like I was being read like a book, which was indescribable. Of course, as said before, not everything was like that, but especially towards the start, he was very similar to me. Whether I am smart enough to be like him is unknown, but honestly that doesn't matter to me. In terms of his strategies, they were pretty easy to figure out beforehand, and I am assuming that most people would agree with me, which makes you think that he isn't *really* smart. He is stated to be smart, but his actions could be predicted after a couple of seconds, when he might have had much longer to adapt. Idk, just some ramblings I guess.

[@zekielbarbour964]

Liked, subscribed and commented

[@pitapockets5481]

This was good I understood .

[@eve_______]

Alright I have an urge to comment on this. I don’t consider myself apathetic, by no means, but I can relate to whatever feeling you named in parts. Basically a more controlled emotion since you are aware of it where you allow yourself to not care regarding certain aspects since you believe some temporary sacrifices are necessary for long term win. Also it can be hard sometimes because you struggle not because of poor socialization but because it is hard to find those interesting enough to pursue. Otherwise it is a game of diminishing returns, not to say that I am in some arrogant state of self alienation but where my essential core values are so different that you naturally can’t expect a fish to climb a tree. Nothing stops you from a having a swim with that fish from time to time tho. Hope the writing wasn’t too cryptic since I actually believe that I used pretty accurate analogies.

[@amayra2010]

thank you

[@solacee4327]

When I watched Oregairu for some reason the main character was off putting for me. I felt as though I couldn't relate to him in the slightest despite being very apathetic throughout most of my life (since middle school at least), maybe it's because of my anxiety, but characters like him and Ayanokoji couldn't connect with me because they lacked empathy (maybe it was also because I couldn't project myself into their situations, and they seem to show off and be standoffish too much) For me Hotaro Oreki is the only character I've ever felt perfectly encapsulated me. His personality, insecurities, and worldview were exactly how I felt growing up and he wasn't terrible towards others like so many other apathetic characters. He just didn't care about himself, and seeing him grow with those around him always makes me tear up. Hyouka isn't even one of my favourite anime, but I'll forever be grateful for it because Oreki is my all time favourite character, and the series really helped me understand myself (insecurities as well) unlike anything else. I also adore Decim as a character, but it's hard to relate with him since he hardly feels human. I always found myself relating more to the main character. A Silent Voice also made me relate to the main character's depression/apathy, but that's a little different. Either way Oreki makes me feel some type of way, got me through an anime that I didn't really care about just because of the character (and tbh all of them, his best friend and the curious girl really got to me) and his relationships

[@cosmolosys]

I love apathic characters in anime. It always gets me in some kind of weird mood.. Very dark, focussed and powerful. It feels kinda nice. Has anyone seen Grisaia no Kajitsu and it's sequels? I felt like Yuuji the protagonist is quite apathic as well. I came to really understand him better after the part about his past.

[@damdoggy5630]

...Hyouka always reminded me of myself, when I watched it I was suprised to how much he qcted like me, having talent but no want to try for it, even If I had it I wouldnt go for it for long, as I dont care.

[@Benjamin-ml7sv]

I feel apathy in the sense that I loose interest everything I try out or liked at some point. I feel a sense of indeference to things in which I don't wanna put afford into anything anymore and a sense of passive nihilism where I question the purpose of anything. Luckily there is one thing which I am quite consistent at, that being working out and weight lifting.

[@MissMinnichan]

Liked for Oreki Commented for Decim.