The Postmodern Hell Of Russian Propaganda

[@VladVexler]

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[@VeronikaJelencsrecnozivljenje]

Thank you

[@smarasme]

I thought people closing their media for alternate news and/or opinions, banning and confiscating assets of private owners are fascists but ok :)

[@marks7167]

Putin was already a fascist...!

[@tomaskiraly4612]

putin aint no facist hes a red commuist

[@firefox7801]

Putin can only provoke nuclear war. The best he can do is drop one bomb.

[@static2223]

I'm an frequent watcher of russian state media since I speak Russian myself. Another thing to note is that russian media barely talks about it's problems if ever. But it certainly loves to talk about the western problems a lot. I don't think there ever been a pause where they don't talk about the west. It's like if you don't address the pink elephant in the room then it's not real. Like you know soo much about the west but you barely hear anything from the east. And that's another key information to take note. Like I can say that in the west whenever something weird happens in the east it will be discussed briefly and then move on but in Russian state it never ends. It just keeps going.

[@mauchkimberly]

If you swapped out the word, Russia with US, and swapped west with Russia, your statement would be the US media experience.

[@jgw9990]

@@mauchkimberly Incorrect. Western media criticises the west all the time. You are wrong.

[@sophiemoroz5744]

Sure, it’s one of the main methods of attention bias :) The most cringe of it is good old whataboutism tradition

[@heybabycometobutthead]

@@mauchkimberly Western media critised Trump 24/7 for his entire Presidency, your comment is synonymous with a Russian troll farm bait type of comment.

[@ytpremium4305]

I'm from Russia. It's the main reason why I don't watch official Russian media. They're focused on Western problems so much.

[@fg4hg594]

I'm Russian. I left my country in 2014 when they started war with Ukraine, I didn't wanted to pay taxes and sponsor that. My hometown was literally on the border with Ukraine, I saw tanks and heard missiles blowing up just 30 kilometers away from civil city. Now it's nearly impossible to talk with ppl who stayed in Russia, they either super aggressive or scared and silent. The whole country's Stockholm Syndrome.

[@aruchomka]

What kind of copypasta is that?

[@annadersen]

Да неужели ))

[@very_unique_username]

Охуительная история, что еще расскажешь?

[@FarionHorn]

In 2022 it's even worse. "People" are turning into animals.

[@tanya_tikhaya]

Читай как: "Я такой молодец свалил из страны и сделал правильно, а все кто остался вообще неправильные больные люди. Но я молодец! Не то что некоторые."

[@goroch_thegreen]

Well as Russian I even don't really know what we are told on TV because I don't watch it about 10 years. I know some statements just because I'm leaving in this environment but I didn't ever watch any political TV program or pro state News. But about learned helplessness it is 100% true. Our society is sick with it and I understand that I'm not the exception. Even If I don't have anything to do with government I feel that I was thought that I can't do anything... The problem is that I still can't do anything.

[@ennediend2865]

STAY SAFE IN RUSSIA ! A FULL TIME JOB 😳

[@gemmalee3032]

Wow, THIS happened to us here in the Philippines. Tnx to this clip. Indeed now I know why du30 idolize Putin.

[@huncher.puncher]

Believing that TV (RT and other trashy media) are the main source of propaganda is naїve to put it mildly. A former friend of mine who is beyond doubt highly influenced by russian propaganda has told me: ''I don't watch TV, I listen to different sides, there is no truth on either side''. Basically, a white-coat ''we'll never know the truth and there's nothing we can do about it'' bothsidesism at its best. And this is exactly one of the key narratives the entire russian environment (the actual people around you, the '''good'' and the ''smart'' opposition (aka imperial heralds) and opinion makers, insta-stories, tiktoks you name it) is making everyone think.

[@clairejeannette8454]

My empathy! I experience more of that in the US these days. I’m 78 and never imagined that the ‘right’ would go this far in the disinformation model.

[@doggwoggle]

break the railways

[@Jp-zd1si]

Dude, I'm literally starting to write a masters paper on psychological warfare and propaganda and this video has been a god sent just to give me a few talking points about Russia and Belarus. Great work!

[@VladVexler]

So glad this was useful for you!

[@nathanliteroy9835]

Would suggest to look up Greg Yudin, he's Russian sociologist, I don't know how well his research covers it, but he talks about Russian propaganda and perceptions about Russia a lot, some of the things he says are mentioned in this video

[@VladVexler]

@@nathanliteroy9835 Grigory is one of the best voices in Russia right now, and one worries for his safety.

[@nathanliteroy9835]

@@VladVexler Yeah, if he won't get imprisoned, I expect him to leave the country some time soon

[@VladVexler]

@@nathanliteroy9835 let’s see how he goes - his strong preference is to stay if at all feasible

[@IAmNumber4000]

I appreciate the critique of both sides in a way that isn’t lazy. Often, amateur KZbin analysts just throw out the “BothSides” maneuver as an attempt to make themselves look like a “reasonable centrist”, but it’s clear that your criticism originates from real knowledge which is a refreshing sight.

[@VladVexler]

Thank you!

[@rwkamau]

This second rate propaganda relies on people being too stupid to understand that this is itself propaganda.

[@MA_KA_PA_TIE]

The guy didn't really criticize the left at all. All I heard was anti trump shit. Meanwhile putin only invades when Obama or Biden are presidents, yet trump is the Russian favorite? Yeh OK

[@RACER1562]

Не очень хорошо пишу по английски, поэтому напишу на русском. В РФ пропаганда говорит что Европа замёрзнет без газа, почему-то забывая что большая часть РФ не имеет доступа к газу и обогрев частных домов производится ДРОВАМИ ИЛИ УГЛЕМ. Да, в 2022 году. Нередко даже в городах. По ТВ говорят что европейцы в бешенстве от повышения цен на 5%. Знаете на сколько повысились цены в РФ в это же время? От 20% на все. Пропаганда предпочитает не видеть проблемы своей страны, но яркой краской выделяет любые проблемы на западе. Многие на это ведутся.

[@AlFredo-sx2yy]

No, no es que haya gente que se este creyendo la propaganda de alli ni ostias...es que verdaderamente las cosas estan jodidas aqui en el oeste. No te creas las polladas que te dicen los americanitos en sus putos videos del YT, tampoco te digo que te creas las polladas que te dicen en la tele, esos tambien te mentiran... pero no te pienses que rusia esta en la mierda. Ahora mismo rusia esta muchisimo mejor que muchos paises del oeste. Asi cuidado con que te crees. No te fies de la propaganda de ningun lado, informate tu por tu cuenta sobre como estan las cosas de verdad en cada sitio... Dices que eso de que haya gente que aun usa madera y carbon en 2022 como si fuese el fin del mundo o algo. Que fumas? Aqui en España hay mazo de gente que usa madera tambien... y no nos pasa nada. No te quejes de eso, que no es exclusivo de Rusia. Todos los paises tienen zonas rurales jajajaja...

[@MallenBaker]

Great analysis and extremely important. People who think the "post-truth world" was just about political leaders lying should watch this. Great job Vlad. This channel is on fire right now!

[@VladVexler]

Thank you so much Mallen! I hope you’ve had a good Sunday.

[@atomicshadowman9143]

And it takes a biologist to identify a woman.🙄 The gaslighting is off the charts.

[@jam99]

I for one very much dispute Bernard Williams' statement that, "the desire for truthfulness drives a process of criticism which weakens the assurance that there is any secure or unqualified stateable truth". If you really believe that then I suggest you educate yourself in some modern scientific practise. This is the kind of unbased bullshit that philosophers love to spout; anything to convince you things are not as you thought they were ("buy my book", "listen to me more"). The weakening of confidence in truth comes mostly from the bombardment with BIASED alternative views; views and lies that are generated from the aim to control. I just watched a video on a topic regarding another type of conman showing how the search for truth (eventually) corrected a fraud, see kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnOslHSQrauZqMU. Skip to 1:32:30 if you only have 30secs.

[@hamishanderson6738]

Sounds like western MSM.

[@jorenvanderark3567]

@@atomicshadowman9143 It takes two ears to identify a man or a woman. That and the capability to not be an enormous asshole.

[@meowmeowmeow1243]

As someone who grew up under communism in Romania, i can totally understand what you said about soviet propaganda. At the beginning of each school day we had to stand up facing the huge picture of the dictator Ceausescu on the wall and sing a song for him and the communist party. We had to learn those songs when we were starting school at 6 or 7 years old. Propaganda was everywhere, but we knew it was bullshit, even as children. At home our parents were listening to Radio Free Europe at very low volume, and we were forbidden to speak to anyone outside of our family about it since it was a criminal offence. While everywhere in society there was praise for our "glorious" regime and Soviet system, the stores were empty. The common people had to stay in line for hours just to buy one bread or a bottle of something that was supposed to be milk. In the meat shops, the only thing you could buy in the early 80s were legs from chickens and pigs. But only from the knee down, there was no meat on those bones. Meanwhile, those high up in the communist party had special stores where they could buy whiskey, fine tobacco and French chocolate. I think if the sanctions keep piling up Russia`s economy will tank and will make the 80s-90s crisis look like a golden age. Thank you for another great video Vlad, sorry for the wall of text :)

[@VladVexler]

This is not a wall of text but a very meaningful story which I thank you for sharing. I relate so much. It was more liberal in Russian in the 1980s. Interestingly, the food shortages in Russia kicked in a little later a just after the mid 80s…. Thank you so much for your words.

[@Jemawin]

Thank you for sharing.

[@luxlandm2103]

Hello raahka, same here, generation Z given enough time to experience a young life under dictatorship. First was I a proud member of the pioneers with a strong belief in our superiority. The mention of the continuous battle was a matter of fact and I was very keen to get myself involved. And be a HERO. LOL. Things changed when I grew up a little older. The absurd theatre was so obvious… Do you remember our jokes about the communism/ dictatorship mit more human form? They are still applicable with our western life….Good jokes, sad jokes, Brazil style….

[@juliereminiec4937]

I understood everything that you've said China's economy is tanking & they have a communist leader

[@meowmeowmeow1243]

@@luxlandm2103 oh yeah! Nice to see another from the same generation brother! I was a pioneer too :))

[@paulmakinson1965]

This whole propaganda technique reminds me of French corporate culture. A friend of mine went to a management course in France. He was told that the French style of management he was taught was inspired on dog training technique. Firstly, give out confusing or contradictory orders. When your team is confused and fails, discipline them to insure dominance. Once you have broken them with confusion, they will be compliant. As a result, in big French corporations there is a deficit of creativity. Only the boss is allowed to think, his underlings are reduced to being drones. Now I understand why I never managed to hold a job in french companies.

[@shmel3689]

I don't want to do an argumentum ad Hitlerem, but I want to mention that this was a way to break people's spirits in concentration camps, to destroy any personal will and make them, well, as you've said, drones. It's a terrifically effective tactic

[@OmmerSyssel]

As a well educated and experienced technician I know how lousy French technology is. Wouldn't own a French car, even as a gift. That they're leading culture could be so questionable, is new to me. When, and which branch are you referring to?

[@katethegoat7507]

Yeah, authoritarianism in the workplace is cringe

[@muhfreedumcums]

Wow, now I understand why Ubisoft makes such crappy identical games without a single new idea.

[@B.D.E.]

That explains why rhe French economy is so stuck too. And yes the lack of innovation compared to the UK and Germany.

[@foundati0n]

Hearing about this "aim 3" of russian propaganda - to make people in a country overreact to their influence, reminded me of watching strategy game starcraft 2. There, its pretty known idea, that sometimes you don't need to go for a wacky strategy against your opponent, sometimes you only need to pretend to do it or do it a little bit, purposefully make him see it, and hopefully make him overreact and overcorrect his build order and resource gathering pattern. That way, he would either be building something that counteracts your wacky strategy and silly unit combination, or in panic dumped a lot of resources at once, while you actually corrected and went back to a default build/units that are most consistent and cost-efficient. As a result, this only made him weaker in a straightforward head to head engagement, or put you ahead economically.

[@jmmh1313]

I always thought that the quote "prosecution (censorship, incarceration, etc) of antidemocratic agents (far right, nazis) is not antidemocratic, but an act of democratic self-defense" was a gateway to undermine the principles of democracy as such. This aims directly at it.

[@jhellden]

This is absolutely brilliant Vlad. So important to distinguis between these two types of propaganda.

[@VladVexler]

Thank you!

[@tsentenari4353]

The quote you gave at the beginning, about the two of aspects of a) not wanting to be naive, not wanting to be duped, and b) how this can undermine the believe that there is a truth - immediately made me think of the phenomenon how surprisingly clever people can sometimes be prone to believing in conspiracy theories.

[@VladVexler]

Thank you! I think the least intelligent and the most intelligent people are less likely to succumb to conspiratorial thinking. You need to be intelligent enough, but not too intelligent. I’m really talking about political intelligence here.

[@AntiAzovIndividual]

@@VladVexler so your video isn’t propaganda? There isn’t Ukrainian propaganda? Huh, that’s a bit odd, seems like the only propaganda is either by russia or trump, but that in itself isn’t propaganda either? That doesn’t make any sense! You wouldn’t have even made this video without the invasion of Ukraine which you know nothing about

[@CrescentUmbreon]

This is exactly what I've been worried about in America. It's always about demanding to "seek the truth", but never finding it because somehow there's this nebulous dark force "hiding it from you". Always out to get you. So, I guess in the end, whatever would be the most interesting story, the one most counter to the "obvious", must be true. Or, something like that...

[@tun0fun]

The problem with deriding those that believe in conspiracy theories is they are increasingly being found to be correct.

[@klavesin]

@@tun0fun ...due to the "confirmation bias". To be not prone to the fallacy requires to at least be aware of its existence.

[@conniepr]

An elderly lady in Belarus says she likes Putin, she shakes her hand as she says so so because he's like Lukashenko. I'm not sure exactly what she meant. I realize I have never really recognized these attributes of Russia. What you are talking about is very interesting and so deep. One thing for sure there is Russian propaganda.Propaganda is everywhere. I can't imagine you growing up there. Thank you for your videos.

[@VladVexler]

Thank you for sharing this! If you took away Russian influence, the Belorussian regime would collapse within a year and become a democracy. It has all the ingredients.

[@garyhanley3477]

I find all your videos regarding Russia quite enlightening. Having been raised in the West the culture, beliefs and attitudes of the Russians have always left me wondering as to why they seemed so different, particularly to my way of thinking. A lot of it now makes sense.

[@critictactic7090]

The video is very good, so thank you! The bit about Western actors inadvertently playing into Russia’s hands by panicking about the extent and impact of interference is deeper than it seems. Great story, sir.

[@VladVexler]

It's a huge point and we are still not registering it properly.

[@critictactic7090]

@@VladVexler this point does come up in academic discussions. I can testify to that from personal experience. I think what we need is a wider understanding among the populations.

[@paulspiers5466]

Vlad your impression of Trump made me laugh out loud and at the same time really educated me on how this mixed messaging works to undermine reality. Cheers.

[@VladVexler]

Thank you!! I thought it would be a disaster if tried to do the accent, so I didn’t!

[@paulspiers5466]

@@VladVexler you did his lips perfectly though!

[@Stadtpark90]

15:44 tears of laughter

[@a.b.g.8490]

We all love Trump!! With the exception of the media brainwashed people!

[@Jonsson474]

It was spot on.

[@BojanBojovic]

Your understanding of what is actually happening behind the scenes is spot on. Not only that but your way of explaining things to us regular humans is incredible. Here in Serbia many stay with the Russian side, partly because of the religion, partly because they do not like NATO because of the 1999. war, but mostly because of the inferiority complex as they know that the west lives much better and those countries are the ones they want to live in and work, so their myth of a great Russia and Serbia "saving" the world is very alive here. However, no one in Serbia explains why they do not support Ukrainian sovereignty the same way they expect Serbia's sovereignty to be respected, also no one talks about horrible things Serbian government did during the nineties so the 1999 war happened in the first place, and in the end no one goes to Russia to work and live but everyone escapes to the western Europe or America. Collective identity, clerical and ethnic nationalism, politically and scientifically illiterate population is prone to make these mistakes unfortunately, so what happens in Russia is mostly what happens to Serbia now, just without nuclear arsenal. Keep up with your brilliant work, such a great content you have here!

[@snowsnow4231]

I come for a Russian city of Novosibirsk, from Akademgorodok, a science city with over 20 universities, where graduates get job offers from every country from France to Emirates and it is funny to me to listen about "scientifically illiterate population". Russia is way more scientifically literate than any European country, because here if you do not study STEM, you will not get anywhere in life whatsoever. In Europe you can just go work at McDonalds, buy a nice PC and chill, smoke pot and eat Doritos. In Russia, you have to study, because the other option is working as manual labor on the rail road. So your whole claim is such a joke. I have been to European and American schools and universities and I can tell you that Russian studying is hardcore difficulty compared to easy mode you have. Russia is poor because of WW2 and the amount of destruction that our grandparents have rebuilt with their bare hands. There was nothing even remotely similar in Britain, France or USA. And we have actually rebuilt everything without the Marshalls plan which is the cause of why modern Europe is de-facto controlled by the USA. Europe have sold their independence for Marshalls plan, we did not. So yeah, you either lie or say half truth. The full truth is that we are more educated and more hard working, but because of the cost of WW2 we still live worse. But we surely do not need your smart American owners (yes, because Americans own you and your country) to come here to Russia and teach us life. It is like a dog trying to teach something a man. Got anything to say?

[@BojanBojovic]

@@snowsnow4231 Great comment. It should be pinned as a great example of brainwashed nationalistic mythomania.

[@AlexandruSorez]

@@BojanBojovic good to see that Serbia isn’t a lost cause and there are a lot of thinking people there still. Best regards from Ukraine!

[@Grgazola]

@@snowsnow4231 You can start with the old misconception that somehow your country has not yet managed to overcome the burden of WW2 and that's holding it back. How many wars will it take Russia to finally equalize the damage of WW2? How many Lenins, Stalins, Putins do you need to massacre your intelligentsia away in your oh so politically literate part of the world?

[@coderentity2079]

@@BojanBojovic Maybe elaborate on what's not true? What is the reality and how he twisted it? Without this you look like a propagandist. Try reasoning.

[@cryptouncle6630]

"If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - for ever." - George Orwell, 1984

[@tutifruti7488]

yes, the boot of Pentagon.

[@phillbarnes8513]

@@tutifruti7488 And as if to prove the point of this video…. Here you are. There will always be ‘boots’… & I’d much rather it be an American one, than Russian or Chinese. Funny how all those ex-soviet bloc countries, Taiwan, S. Korea etc, flocked to the American (or western) ‘boot’.

[@connorkenway09]

@@tutifruti7488 you got a boot up your butt

[@GregDaniel78]

@@tutifruti7488Here comes one right now. It's Tuti Fruti Booty!

[@tutifruti7488]

@@GregDaniel78 Tuti Fruti Booty is the latest cutting edge booty, the invisible one.....because the original Crypto Uncle comment and ALL replies thereof were deleted as part of the Western Censorship Booty.

[@girlfriday1299]

Fascinating, engaging, witty, brilliant and disturbing all at the same time. This throws more light and gives more shape to what I have been sensing. Wow! Great video!

[@abodabalo]

Since three months, I have been trying to collect bits and pieces to understand Russian propaganda. And here it laid out is in a nutshell, very well explained, and I learned a lot. Thank you!

[@VladVexler]

I am glad!

[@liangyuaq-qoyunlu407]

like the propraganda that Putin is going to die anyday now.

[@veteranbd]

You should watch HBO's miniseries Agents Of Chaos, there is a lot about how russian propaganda and intelligence works

[@masterzoroark6664]

I'm quite glad you and many others are here to educate people about this problem. It's quite scary that at this point behavioural studies and psychology studies are being used by both games and politics to not help people but further damage people

[@KatiKay83]

I just recently discovered your channel and I have been binge watching your videos. I'm Estonian and I was a child when Soviet Union collapsed, but I do remember how it was like. My heart breaks for Ukrainians, but also for all the saine Russians, who understand, what is really going on, yet are helpless to do anything about it. I get it, that propaganda works, but I'm honestly surprised that it works so well on such huge number of people. How do you believe everything that you see on TV so blindly and not ask any questions? It has always been very difficult for me to understand. Your explanation helped a little though. :) Just wanted to say a big thank you for talking about these things. I have learned a lot from you. I'll be coming back for more. ❤️

[@VladVexler]

Dear Kati thank you and welcome! Sorry you share a border with this degenerate in the Kremlin.

[@CyanideBtm]

"How do you believe everything that you see on TV so blindly and not ask any questions? " - you can ask the same question for people who lives in any other country. Propaganda is not Russian invention. For example: Western MSM declines what they showed 2-5-6 years ago about Ukrainian problem. So it is not true that Russian propaganda is about lie, but western propaganda is about truth. Actually they are the same. And truth is between poles.

[@snowsnow4231]

"sane Russians who understand" - yes, sane Russians know Russia = bad, America = good by sane your mean young women who do not see anything beyond pumpkin lattes and latest iPhones, right?

[@TTFerdinand]

Me too. Just discovered this channel, am Estonian and was a kid when Soviet Union collapsed. I believe why propaganda works on huge number of people is because most people are pretty superficial in nature, they're also preoccupied with their own lives and they tend to consume news as "fast food", often not caring enough to really think what they're being fed. That's where propagandists come in and use it for their own gain. They present their own version of the news, often doing it in a scandalous, over-the-top manner, because it sticks better, emphasizing that they somehow know more than the rest of us and that no one else is to be trusted. It gets parroted around and voilà, in time they will have an audience of loyal followers who DON'T trust anyone else. If you try to debate them in any serious manner, it usually ends with them launching ad hominem attacks against you, you're either stupid, brainwashed, paid off or part of the Deep State - or all of the above. But they're never good at debating or proving their point that was under scrutiny in the first place. What I've witnessed is that people who tend to believe propaganda also tend to believe in all kinds of conspiracy theories, some of which are totally mental, but there's no convincing them that they're wrong either. It think it's quite easy to get trapped in propaganda if you're not concious of it, not looking out for it and not knowing how to avoid the traps, but it's really hard to get out of it.

[@kathrinscharrer3923]

I am German and I am sorry we did not listen to the warnings we recieved from the Baltic States and I am sorry we were entitled and thought NATO unneccesary and redundant.

[@Brassblitz]

Absolutely brilliant. You gather all the threads and show how they weave together very efficiently. I find your perspective incredibly valuable. The solution to chaos created covertly by the strongman and his minions is the public image of strength the strongman projects. Nevermind "strength" really means the ability to trample rights.

[@VladVexler]

Glad it was of value.

[@fritzmortadella938]

There is brilliant book '' Nothing is true and everything is possible '' of Peter Pomerantsev largely on the same topic

[@sujac664]

Thank you Vlad, years of trying to pinpoint the mechanisms of this obvious but inexplicable manipulation, condensed into less than 20 minutes. Fabulous!

[@VladVexler]

I am glad.

[@ianwilliamson20]

Thanks Vlad. This vide was a real Aha! for me. I have been discussing New Zealand's "Freedom Protest" with my teenage niece. A point of difference between us has been the origins of the protest as domestic or foreign. Now I see that this confusion of local grievances with foreign interference is a prime objective of modern propaganda. This is an effective disruption to us from seeing each others points of view. Jolly good stuff.

[@OmmerSyssel]

Entire Europe are influenced by Russian propaganda machine. Intelligence services has proven direct connection with Russia, and financial support to right wing politicians, radical groups and EU opposition. Destabilising, and fuelling internal conflicts is a goal for Russia. Along with megalomaniac and unreliable Erdogan, low educated minorities are polarising our former homogeneous societies.

[@Diamantenvogel]

One of the most horrifying things I witnessed this year is one student of our programme going completely down this rabbit hole of conspiracy theories and misinformation and talking in the post-truth way you just described. It ended with him trying to mess up two professors' carreers by telling the students weird mixtures of truths and lies about them and trying to encite us against them. In the end it was stuff like "you're wearing the flag of the Ukraine on you, therefore you're a Nazi."

[@Kaiya134]

Current Ukranian government is publicly nazi

[@Sl33zytheclown]

AZOV nazis are real tho. Israel and the US funded them B4 the proxy war currently happening. Probably still funding them, but we won't know until 15-20 yrs after the war.

[@Diamantenvogel]

@@Sl33zytheclown Did I say anything about the Azov Battalion though? Yes, obviously there are Nazis in Ukraine, but there are Nazis all over (Eastern) Europe, including Russia. Does Aleksandr Dugin ring a bell for example? The problem is precisely that people take some true elements, combine them with false elements and present themselves as the bringers of the truth. What I'm studying has very little to do with Eastern European politics, so it was all the more bizarre to see professors who are experts in other things being dragged into stuff like this, because one of them happens to be supportive of Ukraine (without holding lectures about it or being personally involved with major political stuff connected to this).

[@Sl33zytheclown]

@@Diamantenvogel you mentioned nazis and Ukraine. So yea you kinda did. Do you support them?

[@Diamantenvogel]

@@Sl33zytheclown Look, I'm not gonna discuss this further with you. You're beginning to sound _exactly_ like this student. Just two points about this: a) talking about Nazis does not make you one. If the only ones talking about fascism are fascist we're in big trouble, because we're letting the fascist control the discourse about fascism. b) I can equally turn this sophistic argumentation around on you and ask you whether you support the Nazis in Russia and whether you support Russia's expansion which is having more and more fascist undertones even in the discourses of the people in favour of it.Just look at Putin's speeches and the messed up ideology in Alexandr Dugin's books.

[@Siempre1978]

Looking forward to analysis of Western Propaganda!

[@eirschu8973]

Nah it won't happen. Only Russia is bad and all that

[@JochenVogel]

Again, good food for thought, Vlad. I'll need some time to process it. In line with a discussion I had today with a lovely person who tends to fall for right-wing narratives again and again. The question: "Do You really want the world to look like that?" made them reflect on their ideas for the first time. It's not easy anyway to find out what's right and wrong these days, even without being bombarded with reckless propaganda all the time.

[@morrigangg]

@@janneroppola_supersigma Free healthcare, public infrastructure, social safety nets and expanded civil rights. How terrible.

[@eirschu8973]

@@morrigangg what a horror!

[@spilltea4241]

@@morrigangg didn't happen where I come from . Selfish greedy and narcissist people go into politics and it's always a self serving position As long as there's no honesty in the system nothing will get done

[@soocccermommy1326]

Just don’t think about it, soon your shitty city will be destroyed by Russia💪

[@ellaeadig263]

I friggin love you, Vlad. You present all these concepts in such an easy to understand way. I feel so educated every time I watch one of your videos. Are you a teacher? If not you'd be great at it.

[@tsentenari4353]

I absolutely loved watching your video, it helped me get a much clearer understanding of things I noticed before, but couldn't quite make sense of. "pouring fuel on conflicts that are already there", "deliberately sending conflicting messages", "the real damage doesn't come from the interference itself, but from the response to it", "tapping into already existing fears and sentiments". Seems like there is something that the Russian state, for all of its inefficiencies, does manage to consistently pull off well after all. (Other than consistently manufacturing state of the art weapons, almost somewhat independent of economic prowess.)

[@VladVexler]

Thank you. I think the execution of these concepts is often laughably poor. But the way the Russian state thinks about propaganda is very conceptual and academic.

[@sdk4422]

I'm hooked on your videos now Vlad!! You are the only authority on Russian politics that I trust. thanks so much for making these videos for us lamen.

[@VladVexler]

Utter pleasure. I have so many wonderful questions that I will have to do a marathon Q&A video on the clips channel in the next couple of days!

[@greg8106]

Just came across your channel and this video. I'm so glad I did, your analysis and presentation is what so many need to hear right now. Thank you, keep up the good work, I know I'll be supporting you as much as I can.

[@VladVexler]

Thanks so much Greg. Welcome here! There is also a second channel called Vlad Vexler Chat, where I answer Qs and talk more casually almost every day.

[@richardgoldsmith7278]

Thank you for wanting to change my life a little bit. I do feel edified by the examples and explanations you give.

[@VladVexler]

Just a tiny bit ! Thank you for taking time Richard! Wishing you a positive Sunday.

[@BinaryBlueBull]

This is an insanely informative video. I have a lot of respect for the work you have obviously put into this. This provides a very valuable perspective and more than that, it's coming from someone that has experienced this kind of propaganda for himself. Lastly, it is quite disconcerting to watch, but that is a good thing in this case. Thank you for making this, I have learned a lot today

[@VladVexler]

Glad it brought you value.

[@JakeBroe]

This is the best video of yours that I have watched so far!

[@VladVexler]

Thanks so much Jake!

[@originalwhig]

Superlative analysis. Thank you!

[@VladVexler]

Thank you so much! I believe in it.

[@FutureSystem738]

Thanks Vlad, it is always great to see another video from you- however sad the subject. (And of course what is going on in Ukraine right now is way beyond sad.) Thank you for your wise words, such a valuable source of education for us all. P.S. LOVED your Trump “impersonation”, nailed it perfectly!

[@ЧеловекЧеловекуЧеловек-й9с]

Нет войне! Нет сил выдерживать этот трындец, хочется проснуться в той реальности, где не было этой войны.

[@nelsonsilva9966]

Content in this video is eye opening for sure. Thank you for your hard work and not doing content for the sake of content. Be safe everybody.

[@VladVexler]

Pleasure! Thank you for taking time! Be safe.

[@bobbymurphy4384]

I'm going to share the hell out of this video. Thanks again Vlad 💗

[@VladVexler]

💙💛🌻 so lovely thank you!

[@bobbymurphy4384]

@@VladVexler no, thank you! You should have 10 times the amount of subscribers you have, so let's work at getting you to that point.

[@VladVexler]

@@bobbymurphy4384 dear you thank you for being so supportive!

[@steindor01]

Man, I like you! Wish I could be your friend. By the way, I was writing part of my novel which is about fake news and Russian propaganda in Ukraine in 2014, and your video came as a ring to my finger. Thank you!

[@VladVexler]

I am so glad to hear that! Good luck with your book!

[@trottyong]

Excellent job. I’ve binge-watched your vids this morn after getting home from work. I truly hope heads of state depts and foreign ministries are paying attention. Somehow, I doubt it. We grew up at the same time but on opposite sides of the world (as I am In The USA). It is always fascinating for me to hear about how it was for someone my age in the USSR. As a school boy I always used to wonder how “Soviet Tim’s” life was. . In fact, my mother saved the letter I asked her to send to Gorbachev on my behalf…….she never did. I have it in my room lol.

[@pedrosanchez4035]

I am not being flippant, I am not from the USA. Do schools kids not to have to sing a song each day under the flag, or has that tradition died out?

[@trottyong]

@@pedrosanchez4035 “I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.” Lol yes, my kids did, it’s more of a chant but the same thing. Right hand over heart

[@pedrosanchez4035]

@@trottyong Thanks, as one who has never visited the USA I wasn't sure if it was an apocryphal tale. So some similarities with them Ruskies. Just for your amusement, when Spanish teams stand for the national anthem, they stand in silence. I recall one commentator complaining that the Spanish don't show any respect for their national anthem as they don't sing along. There are no lyrics to the Spanish National Anthem lmfao. It was decided that after the civil war, and 40 years under the fascist dictator Franco, a tune was sufficient. xx

[@pauldamse253]

You put into words exactly what I was feeling about trump, bojo and other such figures, they are more chaos than they are right or left wing, they have few core values that they stick to if any, their opinions are either ambiguous or change based on what's more politically advantageous. I am sometimes struggling not to be angry at people who buy this, you can even show them proof of how they answer a question both ways and will outright ignore it. I'm sick to my stomach

[@SimmerCK]

Same here. I've worked with a Narcissist for 10 years and have become familiar with all his tactics. Trump is like the original mold that created him. People should really educate themselves on Narcissism and learn how they operate, learn how they manipulate people and try to wriggle out of legitimate criticisms. You can read them like a book once you know what to look for. It's really alarming to see how polarized the nation has become and how people are divided against the people they should be trying to find common ground to work towards their common interests. They are playing us like a violin to achieve power and their ambitions.

[@БидонКадыкавич-х2ц]

Чувак на протяжении 20 минут рассказывает тебе что он не пропаганда, а вот они - да.

[@gestaltengine6369]

И он абсолютно прав.

[@БидонКадыкавич-х2ц]

@@gestaltengine6369 сможешь с серьёзным лицом сказать, что ббс, снн и нбс - честные и неподкупеые сми?

[@gestaltengine6369]

@@БидонКадыкавич-х2ц я могу сказать что автор этого видео не пропагандист. Тезиса о том что западные медиа честные-неподкупные у него не услышал.

[@БидонКадыкавич-х2ц]

@@gestaltengine6369 если не смотреть видео то да. Лутше кстати так и сделать. Искренне удивляюсь блюдям, которые считают такой контент информативным. Но если всё же это приложить над собой усилие, то уже при прочтении названия посыл становится очевиден. Он тебе говорит, что все российские медиа занимаются лживой пропагандой и только и делают, что пытаются искозить реальность, а затем этот же человек повторяет СЛОВО В СЛОВО западную пропаганду про путин из крэйзи. И тут не надо иметь высшее филосовское, чтобы догадаться до логического следствия, что если это - лживая пропаганда, значит то - истинная правда. Это элементарный приём в споре, сводящийся к фразе "он врёт, а я вам сейчас расскажу правду". Просто расстворённый в большом количестве воды, для того, чтобы умные западные зрители, учившиеся в гарварде и оксфорде, не догадались.

[@БидонКадыкавич-х2ц]

@@gestaltengine6369 если ты думаешь, что население западного мира имеет своё собственное самим собой сформированное мнение, посмотри вот это: htt●ps:/●/yout●u.b●e/kKIv●foMkvYo (Круги удоли, ютуб ссылки нелюбит. даже на себя) У них это называется "дискуссия". И это ГАРВАРД. В наших институтах такую херь не нейти. А это топовый вуз мира (самопровозглашенный). Они противоположную точку зрения просто не рассматривают. Благодаря вот такому подходу - "противоположная точка зрения это пропаганда => это слушать бесполезно". Так что твоя фраза "и он абсолютно прав" мне обсолютно непонятна. Он служит западной пропагандистской машине, держашей своих слушателей в одностороннем прозападном же инфополе. Надеюсь не надо объяснять, почему это очень удобно.

[@matka5130]

Man, you just explained 20 years of my feelings...I'm from Czech Republic... Our presidential motto was always "Pravda vítězí" alias "Truth always wins", it's on Presidents flag. I remember first president Havel - writer, dissident who brought us close to EU and NATO... Then came Klaus - look up his amnesty...he stopped long lasting court processes, many of them with people connected to Russia/our former communist secret police StB...that was huge blow for this motto, at least for me... Now we have Zeman...few Wiki citations: - Zeman has been criticized for his contacts with the powerful Czech lobbyist Miroslav Šlouf, formerly his chief adviser. While Zeman was prime minister, Šlouf maintained contact with the controversial entrepreneur František Mrázek, nicknamed the "Godfather of Czech Organized Crime". Šlouf and Mrázek met and exchanged information at the Office of the Czech Government.Mrázek was assassinated in 2006. In leaked wiretapping records, he nicknames Zeman mlha ("fog") and claims that Zeman "could not be bribed, and wanted only a sandwich, three pickles and for people to like him." - During his tenure, Radio Free Europe has described him as "one of the European Union's most Kremlin-friendly leaders" due to his pro-Russian stance - In April 2021, Zeman cast doubt on Russia's involvement in the 2014 Vrbětice ammunition warehouses explosions... buuut according to the Security Information Service and the Police of the Czech Republic, two GRU agents from Unit 29155 were involved in the explosions. - He stopped court process with alleged killer, and now another one with his personal friend... But at least after invasion, he called Putin a Mad Man and decided to award Zelenskyy with the highest state award of the Czech Republic, the Order of the White Lion, for "his bravery and courage in the face of Russia's invasion"

[@CraigTalbert]

Excellent point at 12:30 or so here. I’m happy I found you. “Maximalist account” is a good word to describe it.

[@VladVexler]

Thanks Craig - you can guess I could have been much less polite than ‘maximalist’ !! I hope you are doing well.

[@gypsy1588]

WOW!!! You have certainty opened my eyes. I do appreciate your content.

[@VladVexler]

Pleasure!

[@TobiasRipper]

It is very interesting to watch propaganda about how not to become a victim of other propaganda.

[@normativesymbiosis3242]

Great video! Check out some of the interviews on 1420 channel - many Russian people say exactly what you describe, that they cannot talk about the current events because they hear so many different versions of truth, and in the end it's impossible to know what is real.

[@VladVexler]

And 1420 mostly ends up showing the more reflective citizens.

[@roguehoro3031]

This video changed my life a little bit. I live in Hungary where the leader Viktor Orban does exactly the same thing as Putin in Russia. Everything makes much more sense now.

[@VladVexler]

I am so sorry for what your country is going through now. Truly sorry. Sadly others will follow. Inc in Western Europe.

[@naomisherred166]

@@VladVexler May I ask what makes you say that? Could this war in Ukraine maybe change that a bit (I'm hoping for a ray of light). Thanks for your videos

[@VladVexler]

@@naomisherred166 Sure. I think we are facing the biggest crisis of trust in public institutions in the West since the European revolutions of 1848. I will be saying a lot more about this once we come out of this series of videos connected with the war. Here is a five min video on loss of trust kzbin.info/www/bejne/a53Efmtvht2socU

[@naomisherred166]

@@VladVexler Thank you so much for your reply! I'm a relatively new subscriber but you are helping me to feel a little calmer 😊😊

[@VladVexler]

@@naomisherred166 also just turn off the news internet and channels like this one when your nervous system needs it!

[@MattIsBored322]

Remember, when russia today broadcasts in english, they are lying

[@pedrosanchez4035]

Thanks for that Vlad, I am studying the news and social media propaganda we are currently exposed to, on the basis that very little is the truth. This talk has been very helpful in sharpening my critical eye and ear.

[@VladVexler]

My pleasure glad it was beneficial!

[@pedrosanchez4035]

@@VladVexler You're a good man, when I say studying, I am not a student (anymore than anyone else), I am actually a 60 year old journalist. It is like "what the heck is going on?" The disinformation has gone stratospheric. One thing that I find interesting is how R.T. has spread out over youtube in different guises. Like you said in your talk, they are very good at this propaganda stuff.

[@VladVexler]

@@pedrosanchez4035 I understand! To be honest RT never matched the standards of Russian propaganda for domestic consumption. By the way, what’s happened during the war is that propaganda has moved from being an aperitif to being breakfast lunch and dinner for Russians.

[@olegjohnkonings5854]

Brilliant video, much food for thought. Please keep posting similar content and Thanks!

[@VladVexler]

Thank you !!

[@kidein5735]

If you think that propaganda doesn't work on you - it means it works perfectly

[@TheRuralpoet]

subbed ... this is so damned fascinating... I've often wondered why trump was favoured by RU . very compelling arguments here. Thanks

[@VladVexler]

Pleasure!

[@WhizzRichardThompson]

One thing worth mentioning is the common Russian technique of using 'whataboutery', the tactic of deflecting away criticism of their policies and actions.

[@rocobruno]

I really liked your segment on how Russia's manipulative tactics are merely a [machiavelic] way of triggering unresolved conflicts that are already in the fabric of those targeted western democracies. The best and the most obvious example of this is in the USA : this country has piled up do so many grievances.. Putin did not have to do much to push that pressure off the cliff.

[@PermianExtinction]

When you got to the point where you critiqued people like Maddow and said that "believing that local issues that have real causes are all foreign interference IS the point" that's when I really got on board with your argument. One of the biggest issues for me with the Russian Propaganda scare in 2016 is how it cast American people's legitimate desires for change as all seeded by Russia, but really it was Russia drumming up the IDEA that they were seeding these ideas. Putin didn't make us think we needed healthcare, he made people think that wanting healthcare was a Russian op.

[@I-ONLY-BUILD-MECHS-AND-DUSTERS]

Is "Putin" in the room with you right now?

[@КоньВПальто-м2ц]

Thank you, Vlad!

[@themeiafy]

I keep reading the title as "the postmortem" and I want it to be true.

[@shawnnaconnolly7051]

Brilliant explanation of the propaganda we're all subject to now. Thank you Vlad!

[@VladVexler]

Hug to you dear Shawnna!

[@TheMrB]

The opening five mins is just brilliant in explaining the differences. YOU HAVE TO WRITE A BOOK. I would love you to publish a book on modern Russia under Putin. ❤

[@VladVexler]

I am writing a book but my expertise is political values, not propaganda. Peter Pomerantsev is best on propaganda.

[@dro355]

Makes so much sense, this is why Lavrov speaks so much dribble each time 🤤

[@ИосифКобзон-ч4ь]

Call it propaganda but Putin has changed Russia for the better which is why he is extremely popular.

[@SL-sd3sg]

😂

[@gerokron3412]

Vlad´s best video: glass clear and well presented. I learned a ton from it. Thx, Vlad!

[@VladVexler]

Thank you!

[@michailpanchev9952]

Listened up until I heard "Western democracy".

[@watchrami]

Meantime Spotify is blocking russians from listening to podcasts, i cant buy books from amazon and no youtube premium for me. This is genius counterpropaganda

[@casusbelli9225]

Some countries have blocked a whole Russian TV and Internet sites. You know what is the funniest? People in Russia are anti-ukrainian/pro-russian, mostly, because they've been fed enough shit from UKRAINIAN media and UKRAINIAN blogs/sites, lmao.

[@bernardsohn]

Very well explained. 100% agree.

[@VladVexler]

Thank you.

[@mimichapman6210]

OMG! Suddenly so much makes sense now. Thank you.

[@hendrikdependrik1891]

A very interesting lecture. I get the impression Russia was indeed forcing an alternate reality, but I feel they're forcing more subtle changes to reality now. For example according to avia-pro (can't post links for some reason) Germany has stopped tank production, because of a lack of Russian titanium. It sounded quite real to me and it makes sense to why Germany is so hesitant to allow exports of military equipment. I then started to check the rest of the website to discover more clear examples of Russian propaganda and I just found an extremely subtle form of Russian propaganda. I also see this back in Russian trolling. I as a very enthusiastic KZbin commenter see legitimate comments, but then with a slightly altered reality. E.g. in reality there's an Ukrainian counterattack towards Kherson at the moment, but in Russian reality it has already been repulsed. That troll named "namur" only made the mistake to copy paste that brilliant comment. So I could detect it as trolling. Another form of trolling is copy pasting Telegram posts. Telegram posts use ⬛ symbol for every new paragraph. The Ukrainian Ministry of Defense usually wrote in that way on Telegram to do their daily reports (which I view on LiveUAmap), but if I'm not mistaken they suddenly switched to Facebook. The way it was copy-pasted in the comment section of Sky News without making any referring to the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense makes me think it's Russian propaganda too and it also makes me wonder if there are legitimate looking fake Telegram groups out there claiming to represent the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense. So if you're in Ukraine: Be careful what Telegram Groups you're reading your messages in!

[@moosesnWoop]

you do realise the USA is the leader in cyber attacks and such acts as "trolling" - they literally control and own both the companies, the servers and the data that runs on THESE USA platforms... and if you think they don't you're foolish. They are literally faking Russian bots to make Russian bots. Russia works with hacking groups not bot farms, that's a US thing 100% - not even China or India does it to the scale the US does.

[@pedrob3953]

A classic. Two true facts (Germany stopped tank production and Russia stopped exporting titanium) are linked by a causal relation where there is none.

[@iiio12]

Their trolls also often post "it's not that simple and one-sided" to make ppl doubt as if photos of bombed cities were not real at all.

[@eingew]

I'm always very sceptical when sb talks about propaganda. Most of the time they aren't saying anything genuine but just try to do some propaganda themselves. But this one is actually an insightful analysis. Thank you for that.

[@Spacemongerr]

sb?

[@eingew]

@@Spacemongerr somebody

[@Spacemongerr]

@@eingew ah

[@cyanideinmycereal1077]

"Some of this happens in MY country!" My brother in Christ the establishment has been doing it since at least the 60's.

[@Sewblon]

This video provided me with more insight into U.S. politics than any video I have ever seen that was explicitly about U.S. politics. The Kremlin was not attempting to elect Trump. It was trying to get the Democratic party and all the Democratic aligned intellectuals to talk as if all the problems with American democracy were due to Russian interference. They succeeded, but only partially. Their various intellectuals still talked about the electoral college and sexism and racism. But, they did get Hilary Clinton to claim that Putin created the Alt-right, when that isn't true at all. The guy who created the "alt-right" brand was Richard Spencer. The basic idea of the alt-right: white nationalism: was always part of American political discourse.

[@jamiesutphin1406]

I've just discovered your channel and it's just fabulous. I'm gobbling up your videos. As an amateur classical pianist who loves Russian composition, I've never been able to understand Russian brutality versus the depth of culture. At the political level at least in the last century, it's a brutal murderous place, and now Ukraine. Having met many sophisticated Russians, East Germans in the US and in France, I've never come to reconcile this catastrophic political absence.

[@Solbm27]

Dude, you made the list. Now you, Ramon y Cajal, Christopher Hitchens, and George Carlin are my favorite philosophers ever. Keep up the great work.

[@vinista256]

I remember what Julia Ioffe said. She felt that Russia in 2016 was like a resentful high school student who doesn’t want to confront the “cool kid” he resents directly. He hides behind a corner and sticks his foot out as his nemesis runs by, hoping to trip him and give him a bloody nose, but, to his surprise, his target ends up with a broken neck.

[@Павел-т2г1н]

8:45 isn't that exactly what has happened to Ukraine? - The opposition has gone mad and many of them formed the notorious Azov - Ukraine has lost economic ties with Russia and suffered from it - Ukraine has in fact became a US puppet - Ukraine has lost Russian language So maybe belorussians believed Russian propaganda, because they saw same things taking place in the neighbouring Ukraine?

[@WretchedEgg528]

propaganda is such an overused word. Instead of debating it's much easier to say "hah! you're brainwashed by your propaganda!". The word "propaganda" is "propaganda" by itself. calling something you don't like "propaganda" is a way to escape answering questions. i don't watch tv. i watch YT's many sources, including Ukrainian ones. but i still support my country

[@mylist0song]

Azov got stronghold, because of annexation of Crimea. No, Russian language has not been lost. Economy is not going to drain because of loss of Russian ties, the war is doing that. Do you seriously believe that Russia из вся и все? They need to leave Ukraine alone.Ukraine is a western puppet? By whose opinion? Who’s puppet was Poroshenko? Russian puppet= good? Western =bad? Is the world black and white? How are they paying lately for trolling? Is it still 200 rub for a sentence?

[@WretchedEgg528]

@@mylist0song нехуй было нападать на ДНР ЛНР после их подписания с Россией договора о взаимной защите. 8 лет стреляли по людям, "сепаратистами" называли, договоры о прекращении огня нарушали, и не боялись получить в ответ, а теперь вдруг стали жертвами, и оплотом демократии... Только всю политическую опозицию по тюрьмам рассадили сначала, и новостные каналы подчинили напрямую правительству, а остальные забанили, а так ангелочки ебучие... Признайте независимость республик и Крым оставьте в покое, и все кончится. Нет они решили что могут победить.... Теперь мы сделаем так, что вы никогда больше своей армии иметь не будете. Уже относительно скоро. Нехуй было перевороты перворачивать в 2014ом в своем ебаном Киеве. С бандеровцами хороводы водили? Сломали страну своими руками. Все рады за вас. Особенно штаты.

[@izmailcherkadze2322]

90% of Belarusians didn't believe russian propaganda, look at the polls

[@WretchedEgg528]

@@izmailcherkadze2322 what propaganda?

[@ВладимирЗорг-д4о]

Great vid. Ty for explaining this to foreign audience. A lot of them will never understand, what such strong propaganda can do with people for such long time period. A lot of them just would not believe, that its even possible. From russia, with sadness. Russia will be free.

[@lovecats_3346]

мир украине, свободу россии!

[@Eevanova]

Россия освободится,если ты покинешь её. А где нету пропаганды кстати?🤭

[@lovecats_3346]

@@Eevanova пропаганда есть везде, об этом в видео говорится. посмотрите видео, потом пишите комментарии. там и говорилось о том, как действует российская пропаганда и почему она сильно отличается от других

[@InterstellarMedium]

Russian propaganda seems to be a mix of what Huxley and Orwell feared: "What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egoism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy. As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny "failed to take into account man's almost infinite appetite for distractions." In 1984, Huxley added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that what we hate will ruin us. Huxley feared that what we love will ruin us. ~Neil Postman"

[@robertsharples7025]

Vlad, thank-you for bringing philosophy back into my life in such a succinct manner and with such relevance. Practised properly I don't think there is a more powerful tool. Big love. Bob

[@VladVexler]

Always a pleasure Bob and look forward to sharing more! Take care!!

[@Asptuber]

Nice one. But I find myself quibbling with your Trump (great impersonation/channelling, btw!) and Johnson examples. Because to me this doesn't sound so much like calculated mixed messaging, but more like some kind of stream of consciousness processing. The kind of talk we all do when we aren't quite convinced one way or the other. (Which is part of both Trump's and Johnson's talents as politicians - relatable!) Where it gets problematic is when it gets chopped up by media and given much more weight than it should. And then it is hopeless to correct, if the media is hostile (which it tends to be) it turns into a gotcha-game. These kinds of "eh, don't really know" utterances in far too many words just do not work in today's media landscape. Maybe we could say that they have a similar effect as the "throw everything at the wall" propaganda in that it can create or amplify uncertainty, but I really think the reason or source for this is different. (Here we could perhaps ponder how private and public ways of being are melting together...)

[@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304]

Boris Johnson did in fact say that mask wearing was a good thing. And urged people to wear them in public. The UK government's policy was not to force people to wear masks. But rather to encourage the wearing of masks. As it was felt that people were more likely to do so if it was a personal choice, rather than an enforced rule. The same goes for public gatherings. After all, the UK is not China. They knew well that the moment the media focused on the enforcement of mask wearing, rather than the reasons why masks should be worn, would be the moment mask wearing became a political issue rather than a public health issue.

[@bhok5228]

Good video, now waiting for the one speaking about the pro western propaganda.

[@robertbrennan2268]

Thank you Mr Vexler for this analysis of Alternate Reality versus Russian Propaganda viz Manipulation of Reality such that we are induced to "doubt the possibility of truth itself". Magnificent expose - quite brilliant! Fits Russia Today perfectly. I shal;l watch it several times.

[@VladVexler]

So glad it proved of value to you.

[@unknownuser_99]

My question is what do the Russians (well, the ones involved in propaganda) strive for when they provoke Western countries? What does the exasperation gain them?

[@GrzegorzPodoliackich]

Y’all shouldn’t forget that the west also has a strong propaganda, and almost every post about “bad Russians” and “poor Ukrainians” make intelligent people laugh

[@pawepawe6788]

There is a big difference between West and Russia. In the west there is plurality, in Russia if you say there's a war you can get arrested. There's no comparison between us. It's time to say that dictatorships like China and Russia has to lose to democratic countries. We have to stop this moral relativism. We were right in Cold War and we are still on the right side.

[@GrzegorzPodoliackich]

@@professionalschizo rly? What do they do instead?

[@GrzegorzPodoliackich]

@@pawepawe6788 democracy doesnt mean being right, soon you’ll get this

[@GrzegorzPodoliackich]

@@professionalschizo The fact is the fact, your government is also fighting those who don’t support it, just not so radically as in Russia

[@noellealissa2206]

Thank you Vlad for this true assessment of psychological warfare; under the guise of Propaganda! Brilliant!

[@VladVexler]

My pleasure

[@SomeOne-mp6ym]

Vlad! You are brilliant. I don't know how I missed this when it first came out. Now, I understand!! Powerful. Thank you!!!!!

[@VladVexler]

Thanks for seeing!

[@annehersey9895]

Absolutely wonderful! Clear, concise and really informative. In the US, the problem (among very many) is that we are still in the Soviet mindset so we do tend to overreact and act as if it were still handled the way it was under Putin. We have never really stopped thinking of Russia as the Soviet Union. Your explanation of the 2016 election was very good and it cleared up a lot for me. The only part I will disagree with you on is that Russia absolutely DID want trump to win. One, because of the chaos that follows trump everywhere but also Two, because they knew how Anti-Russian Hillary is and how eager trump has been to do business in Russia and also his affinity for Strong-men!

[@VladVexler]

So so glad the video was of value for you. Your objection seems to repeat what I said in the video! I discuss these issues - and more - on the second channel Vlad Vexler Clips in a more casual format.

[@jeffreysams3348]

Thank you ... So easy to understand. Great work!

[@Dimitriworldleader]

Спасибо что боретесь с западным заблуждение о России

[@docbogus6128]

Great work. Keeping cool with this kind of matter is a challenge in itself.

[@vuhushmuk]

small reminder: this video is also propoganda

[@jonasquastel2690]

I would love a video on the origins of these tactics. How far back does it go? Beyond the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion"? Great work Vlad!

[@balsarmy]

There is one "historian" in Russia. Ponasenkov (he is funny from some point). He has international agent status, but I'm not sure he has no ties with Kremlin because he is elitist and a little far right. So... He was writing and discusiing in youtube about Napoleon and 1812 war. How Alexander 1st international politics provoked the war and political misunderstanding. I haven't read his books, but I find it interesting to get bigger picture about those times. Of course, it is easy to misinterpret history to modern view, so need to be careful

[@jacobgrant1083]

Wouldn't it be considered propaganda that you only mention conservatives politicians when talking about propaganda in the west? I like the overall content of this video, but it illustrates several of your points when you pick on one side of the isle. Now I see a clear bias and it makes me question the motivation and truthfulness of your presentation. And no, I'm not a Trump fan.

[@VladVexler]

No. The pathology of the right is post truth. The pathology of the centre is hyper identity politics - which has a post truth dimension, but a different one. Both are threats to democracy.

[@VladVexler]

see videos on wokeism on this channel

[@taterkaze9428]

Really good analysis. Breaking down Russian propaganda into goals and methods is a university-level approach.

[@forthrightgambitia1032]

Great analysis, I kind of came to he same conclusion based on various observations. One thing I'd add is, some of the origins of these methods is actually a consequence of the West itself and the political engineering that developed in the 80s and especially 90s under spin doctors (Bill Clinton, Blair, Gerhard Schroeder being good examples). These tactics and methods were very managerialist and only had a limited time span of effectiveness, but people like Surkov in Russia took them and added a dose of Machiavellianism. This is why the historical wounds of the Iraq War and the 2008 crisis still are a gangrene in Western politics - because in many ways the way governments responded to them prepared the ground and the atmosphere to make people receptive to the information blizzard that came. As you said, there are parallels with the 90s Russias, in this case the ennui and distrust of the Brezhnev stagnation that has similarities to where we are now (Adam Curtis captured this perfectly in an aesthetic sense even if his actual logical arguments are wobbly). Two other key points I also feel are important: 1. Manipulation of elite opinion and decision making is just as important. I notice that for example in foreign policy circles there is targeted propoganda to those in the 'know'. The KGB always saw intellectuals, mavericks and poltiical eccentrics (both left and right) as easy targets to amplify their own messages or sow doubt in elite decision making. I can't help but feel this is a tradition that Putin has continued. In some ways this is just as if not more important than other forms of manipulation (see what happened in Syria). 2. I can't help but feel the West blindly ignored the lessons of the boom in online Islamic fundamentalism in the 2000s. When I think back (and having had a school teacher who turned out to be embroiled in these communities) we refused to understand or learn what happened there, partly through a refusal to deal culturally and especially intellectually with the movement. I can't help but feel the Russian intelligence agencies learnt a great deal more about the themes and messages that appeal to anomie ridden young men and women in modern societies. That is traditional religion, traditionalist ideologies, movements that demand action and so give life a sense of purpose. There has been no engagement with this which is one of the reasons why relatively sparse Russian seeds of propoganda have such great effect among people highly responsive to the message. 3. Robert Baer has been suggesting the CIA has been blindedsided by a 'fourth man' insider. Whilst Western malaise goes deeper, this might explain why Western elites have been so slow to recognise Putin for what he is, albeit... part of that must be their own wishful thinking (which maybe is the reason why any such moles got away with it).

[@DianaTockaya]

Thank you for this video