The Power Hungry Podcast: Judith Curry

Judith A. Curry is a climatologist, the founder of Climate Forecast Applications Network, and the author of a new book: Climate Uncertainty and Risk: Rethinking Our Response. In her third appearance on the podcast (the last was December 27, 2022) Curry talks about her new book, the “oversimplified analysis” of climate that’s being used by legacy media and policymakers, censorship, the importance of Twitter, and why we need to see the global climate as a “complex, chaotic, non-linear system.” (Recorded August 18, 2023.)
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[@archcollie5708]

Judith Curry: the voice of sanity in a mad world.

[@anabolicamaranth7140]

She sure is, she knows better than to live in right in Reno where they’ve been obliterating heat records in the summer. She lives in higher elevations where it’s cooler, she said so herself. If she was really sane, she’d live over here along the Ohio River where we’re experiencing no summer warming because we burn tons of coal and the SO2 reflects the sun.

[@mrunning10]

Horseshit Curry and her fossil fuel consulting company.

[@mceliniak]

One of the few.

[@mrunning10]

HORSESHIT Curry. Talks about the fucking WEATHER not climate and especially not climate change and especially not MANMADE climate change. And you're just too much the ignoramus to see it. @@mceliniak

[@mrunning10]

​@@mceliniak She's doing a fucking "book tour" in this interview. HORSESHIT science from Dr. Curry. The WEATHER is "complex" the CLIMATE and the forecast are NOT. When Judy gets off her cognitive meds, the little lucidness comes out. Judy knows what she is saying is a LIE. she is PAID to say the HORSESHIT in these "interviews." Happer, Christy, Lindzen, Curry, Moore, etc., etc., etc., are all doing what they do (LIE) to 1) make MONEY for themselves, 2) protect the income (TRILLIONS) generated by fossil fuels and 3) check the mental box (mental!!! did I just say that?) of the MAGA Minion Morons. (MMM)

[@HeathrowCampaignTV]

That was good: really clear; really logical.

[@richard1342]

Pity most governments don't have the ability to listen to this clear message

[@mrunning10]

Clear message of what? manmade climate change ain't real, even if it were, it ain't that bad, and the weather proves it? That "message?" Anything to DELAY the inevitable transition. And it does what? Continues to feed the TRILLIONS is revenues generated by the fossil fuel industry. The Fucking Oil Will End. HORSESHIT Curry. Talks about the fucking WEATHER not climate and especially not climate change and especially not MANMADE climate change. And you're just too much the ignoramus to see it. @@richard1342

[@CharlesWT-TX]

Here is a summary of the key points from the podcast discussion between Robert Bryce and Judith Curry: • Judith Curry is a climate scientist and author of the new book "Climate Uncertainty and Risk: Rethinking our Response". The book examines uncertainties in climate science and advocates for more open debate on climate change issues. • Curry argues that climate policy has become constrained, with little tolerance for dissenting views. She wants more diverse perspectives considered in climate debates. • The book contains over 1500 footnotes citing evidence to support Curry's analysis. She wanted it published by an academic press and peer reviewed to establish its scholarly credibility. • Curry criticizes the rush towards renewable energy like wind and solar as climate policy. She sees it as foolish to make our energy system more weather-dependent and vulnerable. • On censorship, Curry has faced challenges sharing her views on social media platforms like Facebook and KZbin. She sees Twitter as more open under Elon Musk. • Curry argues anti-capitalist and anti-democratic ideology influences much climate policy and activism. She wants less top-down control and more open debate. • On the youth climate lawsuits, like Held v. Montana, Curry believes the courts are ill-equipped to handle the technical complexities. She sees the cases as emotionally manipulative. • Curry believes apocalyptic climate rhetoric has gone too far. She hopes for more balance and nuance in climate communications to avoid psychologically harming youth. • Overall Curry calls for humility, constructive debate, and considering diverse policy options when addressing the complex challenges of climate change. -Anthropic Claude-2-100k

[@SteffiReitsch]

Her big thing is to try to emphasize UNCERTAINTY. It's a strategy discussed in the book "Merchants of Doubt." The tobacco industry hired "experts" for years to do the same thing."We need more debate, more discussion, more blah blah blah." For how long? Forever! The overwhelming majority of climate scientists are in agreement as to what is causing this accelerated climate change, and they're backed by decades of studies and research. In climate science Curry is regarded as a crank. What does she get out of it? Lots of attention; Endless paychecks for interviews and paid testimony; Checks from the Heartland Institute as well as other conservative fossil fuel dark money funded orgs. Her weather forecasting company also has oil companies as clients. lol.And now she's got a book to cash in with. There's only a small handful of climate scientists with actual credentials whom the dirty fuel lobby can get to deny the science, so they're in high demand. They can't quite get Curry to do deny humans are causing global warming. She's coy. The most they can get out of the hag is to blather about "uncertainty, " "more debate needed," and say "we don't know how much of it is caused by humans" (and never will), and then she gives her little chuckle.

[@mrunning10]

Anything to DELAY the inevitable transition. And it does what? Continues to feed the TRILLIONS is revenues generated by the fossil fuel industry. The Fucking Oil Will End. There! How's THAT for a fucking summary? HORSESHIT Curry. Talks about the fucking WEATHER not climate and especially not climate change and especially not MANMADE climate change. And you're just too much the ignoramus to see it.

[@markusklein881]

Refreshing view, thank you!

[@mrunning10]

HORSESHIT denial.

[@mrunning10]

When Judy gets off her cognitive meds, the little lucidness comes out. Judy knows what she is saying is a LIE. she is PAID to say the HORSESHIT in these "interviews." Happer, Christy, Lindzen, Curry, Moore, etc., etc., etc., are all doing what they do (LIE) to 1) protect the income (TRILLIONS) generated by fossil fuels and 2) check the mental box (mental!!! did I just say that?) of the MAGA Minion Morons. (MMM)

[@paulslater9061]

Telling the truth is out of bounds in todays world

[@mrunning10]

Oh? And what "truth" is that? This "truth" does ONE thing, it continues to feed the TRILLIONS in revenues generated by the fossil fuel industry. The Fucking Oil Will End.

[@kiter9271]

Path Forward for Climate Science: Follow NEPA guidelines for EIS, i.e., Public Scoping Meetings, Draft EIS, respond to public comments, issue Final EIS. Path Forward for Solution to Global Warming. Follow NEPA guidelines for EIS, i.e., Public Scoping Meetings, Draft EIS, respond to public comments, issue Final EIS.

[@davidstanley6243]

Nothing like a good curry at least once a month!

[@mixmax1953]

Get this lady on MSM. I won't hold my breath!

[@wheel-man5319]

Corporate media would not have her....

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

Better look at her track record first. She has a long history of being wrong. She claimed back in the 90s that we were entering a cooling phase that would last through the 2030s. All we've done is warm.

[@mrunning10]

They don't put LIARS on MSM.

[@aleaiactaest8354]

Good segment.

[@mrunning10]

HORSESHIT.

[@garypetersen5803]

My view on this You Tube episode has a blue Context box with a link to the United Nations. Is this a YT Warning or a U.N. Paid Advertisement? The Blue box has this statement: [Climate change refers to long-term shifts in temperatures and weather patterns, mainly caused by human activities, especially the burning of fossil fuels.]

[@shawnpa]

The UN has a policy in search of scientific reason to do so.

[@terrywillett7208]

mainly shows the ignorance and bias implicit in the UN stance. It should be partly but to what degree is unknown and debatable.

[@adamcarbutt4111]

That warning is on all of Judith Curry's videos!!! The un trying to silence her

[@sindrejakobsen]

What was here twitter tag again? Should leave it in the comment section Robert...

[@terrywillett7208]

@Curryja

[@joedonahue3746]

Good discussion and a balance approach. The climate issue does need all options, behaviors changes and policies on the table and that can only occur if their is open dialogue.

[@mrunning10]

HORSESHIT. This "approach" does ONE thing, it continues to feed the TRILLIONS in revenues generated by the fossil fuel industry. The Fucking Oil Will End. HORSESHIT Curry. Talks about the fucking WEATHER not climate and especially not climate change and especially not MANMADE climate change. And you're just too much the ignoramus to see it.

[@mdombroski]

You should get Andy West as a guest.

[@mrunning10]

Why? Two horseshit liars? Why?

[@davemartinson2550]

Why do climate scientists like Judith Curry leave out geoengineering in their conversations?

[@rps1689]

Even a professional liar like Curry knows geoenngineering is not a forcing.

[@paulslater9061]

Geo engineering isnt helping

[@anabolicamaranth7140]

It’s helping tremulously. It’s why we’ve barely set any summer heat records at all along the Ohio River. We’re burning fucktons of coal here.Out west where she is they’re setting all kinds of records. No coal burning out there. Spain, 115F, no more olives, no coal burning. India? Massive coal burning, little warming since 1951.

[@paulslater9061]

@@anabolicamaranth7140 were actually in a cooling period that's why

[@anabolicamaranth7140]

@@paulslater9061 If you’re in a heavy coal burning region you’re experiencing minimal warming in summer. Everyone else is experiencing lots of warming year round.

[@paulslater9061]

@@anabolicamaranth7140 we don't burn coal at all check with a real climate scientist such as Patrick Moore were in a global cooling cycle it's no good listening to the green lunatics

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

Judith Curry has been wrong many times in the past. She told us that warming was over in 1995. She said the same thing in 1998, in 2002, in 2007 and 2010. Then she told us we'd likely be cooling right through the year 2030. Wrong every time. Does anyone here every check her history or seek rebuttals? Clearly not. It's why the context box is so important.

[@seewhatifound]

But then again climate activists have told us we are heading for an ice age, 90 days to save the planet (2012 .. much of New York under water, maldives under water. etc etc etc. You are following the mantra that discussion should not take place and ignore those inadequacies and failure of "climate scare stories ... why not silence all those widely published 50 climate predictions that never came true. Maybe they should be silenced.Would you agree to that?

[@grindupBaker]

​ @seewhatifound False, equivalence. So obviously a false equivalence that you are simply stating to anybody reading that you know they're as thick 2 short planks and will fall for your moronic crap. "climate activists" == People who aren't scientists, know nothing much, just concerned about what they "hear", a dog's breakfast, eclectic grab bag of bods of understanding, and motives, as broad as the galaxy is wide. "Judith Curry" a former actual climate scientist (I've used an Arctic paper she co-authored for my hobby science study) who RELIES ON her "Appeal To Authority" from back before she decided her best wealth was to be a Tool of the vested wealth interests instead of an honest, hard-working scientist like the THOUSANDS of others. Your choice to compare Judith Curry with "climate activists" instead of with THOUSANDS of climate scientists is you spitting in our faces without having the good grace to pretend that it's raining.

[@adammisero3639]

Link please?

[@seewhatifound]

She was probably right at the time, but as heat islands expand that create much of the increase due to explosions in population where most reading are taken, what was right in 1998 is probably still right today if you adjust for all those influences and everything else. A number of esteemed scientists with respectful credentials and no career to lose have proved that rising CO2 levels over and above today's level will have no effect, if it ever did before. It's all been a money game who can make the most out of the gullible.

[@carolynngockel3670]

A single German wind turbine can kill 4 million insects a year. Do not forget that.

[@SteffiReitsch]

AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Since when did climate science deniers care about birds and insects?

[@carolynngockel3670]

@@SteffiReitsch no one is "denying" the science. They are stating that the "cure" for climate change is worse than the disease.

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

@@SteffiReitsch How many insects do you think pesticides, pollution, habitat destruction, urbanization and cars kill? Oil pits, cars, windows, cell towers, power lines, hunting and cats also kill far more birds than turbines do. Look it up.

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

@@carolynngockel3670 How is switching to clean energy "worse than the disease?" Wind and solar are the two cheapest forms of energy on earth and, coupled with battery back-up, are capable of powering us 80-90% of the time, according to multiple studies.

[@carolynngockel3670]

​@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 because they aren't cheap in lives or money and aren't really clean. Wind and solar are only "cheap" when the wind blows/sunshines. They need a fossil fuel backup. They wind up more expensive because the fossil fuel backup must be manned constantly to be available for sudden unavailability. Batteries aren't a good option. Elon's battery pack only works for a few hours, and wind/sun can be absent for days. These batteries are not even "green" tech though, as they require heavy metals to manufacture. Some places are pretending to be "green" by using wood pellets as "renewable" energy/backup for wind and solar. This is causing deforestation. Look up at how deforestation changes the local temperature. The effects are more intense than climate change. Wind and solar take more space so can cause habitat loss. (Note: rooftop solar does make sense.) A single windmill in Germany (where this was measured) can kill 4 million insects a year. This is devastating for the food chain. They also tend to kill raptors, the rare birds. Wind and solar are decent for about 11% of the grid, but after that the costs mount. This is a short summary. I highly recommend: Unsettled by Koonin, Fossil Future by Alex Epstein, and MIchel Shellengberger's Apocolypse Never. These books go into the nitty gritty details. Green policies aren't human friendly, and ultimately, not environmental friendly.

[@NomenNescio99]

I won't argue about the cauliflower, but you are clearly barking up the wrong tree when it comes to lima beans.

[@chapter4travels]

That would be "Slima-beans" and they have no reason to be on the planet.

[@NomenNescio99]

@@chapter4travels I can forgive your confusion about MSRs vs LWRs, but lima beans - that's where I draw the line! Try to not overcook them, then they are delicious - trust me.

[@chapter4travels]

@@NomenNescio99 God invented Slima-beans for parents to punish their children with and prison guards to torture inmates. I'm quite certain they would cause a meltdown in both a MSR and LWR.

[@MarkG-gb6nq]

Behind it is more like an idiotology

[@denwhitcomb1219]

This is stupid. If you don't see the need for an all hands approach with all the expertise by now?!

[@chapter4travels]

She is calling out the CIC as being wrong and scamming all of us.

[@willgo7898]

I was hoping to learn more about climate change, causative factors, and climate/energy policy. All I heard was her grievance about grievance culture. Very limited discussion. Maybe the book is better.

[@josephallman]

Agree. I follow this podcast closely and often wish the questions would draw out the expert’s expertise more and better.

[@anabolicamaranth7140]

If you want to learn absolutely nothing about climate, you’ve come to the right place.

[@bonysminiatures3123]

@@anabolicamaranth7140 hhaahha alarmist