The Problem With a "Switch 2"

[@GabePauleyV.P]

Honestly their best course of action imo is to pull a Game Boy and just keep updating it with revisions. The switch is an almost perfect Nintendo powerhouse and until gaming shifts to a completely new stratosphere there’s no point in making a wild, risky change.

[@xyoung8687]

What'll they call it? The Super Switch? The Switch Advance? Or the darkest timeline... The New Nintendo Switch

[@GabePauleyV.P]

@@xyoung8687 Honestly, Switch Pro sounds fine. Can play all previous switch games but has harder tech built into it for specific pro games (I.e: game boy color)

[@theviniso]

@@xyoung8687 New Super Switch Pro U

[@jorgeddls]

Id love to have a better switch, but if that increases the price too much... Why just not buy a steam deck? Way bigger catalog and you can emulate almost every nintendo exclusive 30-60fps, i really believe Nintendo has this in consideration, supporting switch is a safer bet than releasing a worse version of an steam deck (wii u flashbacks for sure)

[@Anna-ht7xx]

Perfect nintendo powerhouse? Almost all third party games look and run like ass. I love nintendo games but let's at least acknowledge the fact that any game outside of Nintendo's own roster get fucked over immensely

[@Glockenspheal]

When you brought up a "just more powerful successor with some added gimmicks" my mind jumped from the Gameboy Color, to the 3DS, to the PS Vita, all of them which had very different amounts of success and failures.

[@nobody2021]

The gba was literally just the gameboy 2. 3ds was ds 2.

[@Josuh]

@@nobody2021 gba was portable snes, 3ds was (somewhat) portable wii

[@nobody2021]

@@Josuh 3ds was portable wii? Oh yeah I forgot the 3DS had and IR bar in it and came with wiimotes, literally the entire fundamental feature of the Wii.

[@Valcuda]

@@nobody2021 They didn't mean literally, but in terms of power. GBA was powerful enough for SNES ports to run fine on it, and the 3DS was powerful enough to run Wii/GameCube ports (to an extent). It also had motion controls, which was obviously taken from the Wii

[@christianr.5868]

​@@Valcuda the base 3ds couldn't even run minecraft lol

[@steveirvinejr1672]

Nintendo phone

[@lizard.y]

Finally, it can be real

[@Sonictheoofhog4]

i mean on the Wii U you could call your friends

[@jumentoqueanima]

​@@Sonictheoofhog4 Yeah bro sad they discontinued it Lmao.

[@MarioKartSuperCircuit]

Wii Phone mains rise

[@jumentoqueanima]

@@MarioKartSuperCircuit RISE BROS!

[@Apticx]

I think one of the best ways to improve the switch would be to give the dock more than just a "hdmi adapter" role. kinda like a egpu. put a power hungry hot mess of a gpu in the dock because that ones always plugged into the wall to support 4k or at least some form of 4k upscaling and keep the portable experience energy efficient and soc level and possibly sell the dock and the switch separately as some kind of "pro dock" for the enthusiasts and a typical just hdmi output dock bundled with the base model now add backwards compatibility and release new games exclusive to the new console and maybe do stuff like home screen customization and some additional fun features like maybe street pass etc. like on the DS and you got people swarming over to the new ecosystem.

[@keineken_3281]

So when are we going to start our company based on this idea?

[@ianperesmusic]

This just made me sad to read because I know there's no way Nintendo would ever do something this smart 😒

[@tomikun8057]

I was about to comment something similar but this is better Although I disagree with the not power hungry statement. You can have both if you include a cooling system. Have two modes, battery and performance. Battery would rely on the switch hardware and performance would be on the dock processor. This would solve cooling issues while maintaining user control Also. Nintendo Bridge is a cool name riiight? Then it's also buying them time to create another handheld that can be "bridged"

[@Sapphire200]

Also dlss since they partner with nvidia

[@Elchinodawn]

@@ianperesmusic its actually a super dumb idea, 2 gpus console would be a hell to develop and even worse cuz all pc/consoles have just one gpu/apu, it would be a sega saturn situacion all over again, games wouldn't take advantage of all extra power and it would cost like 600 dollars

[@Mr._Polly_Potts]

I nearly died when he kept saying enchantments rather than enhancements 💀

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

They're kind of the same thing tho. Unless you're playing Magic: The Gathering where some are downgrades. :

[@VCiPz]

Came to the comments just to find this lol

[@dommice]

I liked it. They are like enchantments.

[@myria2834]

Nintendo discovers magic, and uses it to craft a new game system

[@guywhoplaysbass]

I'm gonna say/write enchantment instead of enhancements and see how long it takes people to notice.

[@CrackedDylMil]

I think they could drastically enhance the experience of the Switch 2's operating system. System wide voice chat, system wide game invites, a system web browser that is accessible, an eshop that doesn't lag, system themes, achievements. The switch OS is less feature rich than the Wii's somehow, and I wonder if Nintendo is holding back improving it until the switch 2.

[@JayJay-dj9dh]

this^ when I got my switch I was shocked at the amount of online/community features that were missing. The fact that I can’t communicate with my friends that I added via friend code outside of a specific game makes no sense to me

[@zeckma]

Realistically, the Switch is more than powerful to handle all of that. It's rather because Nintendo isn't bothering with the OS in favor of "minimalism," the same problem that affected the Pringles logo. As for the Eshop, it's so laggy because the codebase I have to assume is so damn messy and bloated for no good reason. The 3ds and Wii U eshop had a more appealing yet were much faster. To sum it up, Nintendo really isn't trying because they know they'll still make a profit. They're not going to waste time for something that won't affect sales.

[@pokemonduck]

I'm sure they made the Switch OS this barebones because the Wii U took 2 minutes to do anything, it was abysmal

[@Elchinodawn]

@@zeckma well to be fair switch eshop has like at least twice more games to charge than 3ds and wii u eshop combined, i think the reason Nintendo went that simple on switch os is to save ram, bro switch has just 1gb of ram dedicated to OS, while other consoles got 3gb, so it has its limitations, wii u is the perfect proof, i remember it used to take like 2 years to load main menu

[@sumomaster5585]

@@zeckma Oh it does affect sales...why do you think ppl use the steam deck to play switch games? it's cuz the thing is damn horrible! I tried it for a bit and I sold it cuz I couldn't stand how slow it is

[@ianeons9278]

The reason why the Wii U sold badly was because the Wii was a fad. Casuals had moved on to mobile games and hardcore gamers were simply burned by its casualness, so both of them could care less about the Wii U. The name and marketing just added to this confusion. However I think the Wii U ended up having a great library of games because it sold badly so they were trying harder.

[@tomykong2915]

That was not why the Wii U failed, it was between marketing and Nintendo being uncooperative with 3rd party devs, leading to most 3rd party titles, not taking advantage of the functionality of the Wii U over other consoles To expand on the Marketing side: Did you know that breath of the wild was released on Wii U before switch? By a lot even. It was also marketted inconsistently, too minimal at the start and after that, they switched their focus on what to market it based off of constantly, they oversold the "portability" despite it being a home console firmly, it wad confusing marketing, the wii wasn't really a fad, a lot of the switch's functionality includes 1 to 1 similarities of what made the wii what it is. The afterlife of the Wii U is actually pretty good, since it's even better for modding and emulation than the Wii was, when the Wii still stands up as an amazing system for those aspects alone, let alone the rest of it's stuff

[@ianeons9278]

@@tomykong2915 Mostly true

[@Gafafsg]

@@tomykong2915 Tf do you mean it launched earlier?

[@tomykong2915]

@@Gafafsg nevermind, was wrong about that and it was only originally planned to be released 2 years earlier as a wii u exclusive

[@suntannedduck2388]

Name for one but who understands that a tablet casting to a console. I do I can cast my phone to my tv with a third party app sure it delays but it's the same thing but I can do it to any screen what average person understands that. Let alone the Switch isn't the first to have a dock as if the PSP/Nomad didn't have a cable to the TV as if PDAs/Pocket PCs or a HDMI to a tablet doesn't exist when they do. It made me laugh at the wall street journal for how dumb they are for not knowing any better that a cable to an device has been done for years now. The Wii U had ad issues, concept communication to an audience, games that are your mature adult third parties, among other things.

[@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7]

When I first heard of the Switch, I wondered if the dock would contain a dedicated GPU that the Switch could _switch_ all its rendering to to drastically improve its horsepower when connected to a TV. It's still something I wish any portable form-factor gaming system could do. Well, besides prohibitely expensive laptops with also prohibitely expensive USB 4/Thunderbolt eGPU cases. I want PCI express add-in hardware on mobile platforms to be normalized. The interfaces are already there, they're just not open for user access. More specifically, when the Framework laptop 16 releases, I hope its open-source, portable PCIe interconnect design is enough of a success to become a standard. I can live with every Android phone and tablet having no eGPU drivers out of the box, as long as the hardware has complete USB 4 support so I can then root and install them ;)

[@sortacoolmaybe]

I thought the exact same thing. Then the dock turned out to be an over designed USB hub

[@lemmy154]

Dude please shut up about that, It is a terrible idea

[@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7]

@@lemmy154 What about it makes it a terrible idea?

[@lemmy154]

@@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7 it would made the portable concept a joke, the power needed to display to a full 4k experience will demand a complete different hardware, and then force the developers to code for 2 different gpu or apu whatever, the nintendo switch successor just needs to have a competent hardware and backwards compatibility

[@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7]

@@lemmy154 Just having "competent (mobile) hardware" (mobile processors are a requirement for the beefed up portables the Switch and Steam Deck are, for the reasons I'll delve into below) isn't enough to compete with a system that is just as electrically efficient while having 10 times more electrical current available to it at any given time. Just try to shove 320 watts down a Steam Deck, I dare you. Spoiler alert: it'll catch on fire. To handle that kind of current, you need the bigger footprint. Trying to squeeze desktop-grade performance out of a tiny, current-limited 30 W TDP integrated GPU that even shares memory with the CPU results in an expensive little system. Just look at top-of-the-line ultrabooks. You can build a better fullsize desktop for less than half the price. It's also silly to render a 4K resolution image on a Steam Deck-sized display when a 720p image at that size is already too dense for the naked eye to tell the pixels apart, so for portable mode, absolutely nothing has to change. Besides, you know, the things that would've been upgraded anyway by the generational lift. And perhaps going a little bit faster on the dRAM than they otherwise might've, since the Switch's is so slow... The storage, GPU, and VRAM take the main brunt of the force with 4K. The CPU and main memory are hit pretty similarly compared to 720p, so they can stay exactly the same. So, having an integrated GPU for portable mode and a dedicated one with its own separate VRAM for docked mode just makes sense. The system would not only switch clockspeeds, render resolutions and game quality profiles when switching modes, which the Switch and all its games, not to mention PC, PS5 and Xbox series systems already do, but also continue rendering with the integrated GPU and having the dedicated GPU do upscaling while it streams the 4K-quality assets from the storage media to its dedicated VRAM, and report back to the main CPU when it's ready to seamlessly switch out render contexts and start doing the actual rendering for the game. All game developers would have to do are things they already do or at least used to do often. Compiling an extra set of GPU shaders for docked mode is nothing, they already compile multiple sets of shaders, one set for every single console out there, and perhaps several sets if that game has multiple quality profiles. If the software just asks it to, Vulkan has no problem switching a game to a different GPU. In fact, the Windows desktop renders using your available GPU, and it already has the capability to switch what GPU it renders with on the fly without skipping a beat. And at least back in the day, even simple things like changing the rendering resolution forced you to completely reboot the graphics stack, which meant invalidating all handles to the GPU and starting over. So many game engines are already coded in a way that was just one step away from full-on, on-the-fly GPU switching. PCIe surprise hotswap is a thing on server motherboards, after all. And you might be surprised to learn all modern consumer GPUs support PCIe surprise hotswap as well, even if consumer motherboards don't. So you still bluescreen if you try this at home, but just so you know, it's not the GPU's fault. They hotswap perfectly on the right hardware. This is the basis for USB4 eGPU cases. At the end of the day, the science behind dynamically switching to a dedicated GPU involves almost entirely engineering problems that were already solved for one reason or another. All the puzzle pieces are already out there, so it's not that much work getting them to fit together. But a portable system will never compete with a non-portable one unless it can offload some of its work to a coprocessor that is not size-constrained, doesn't have to be designed around a battery, and therefore can take full advantage of the energy grid. That coprocessor could've been an eGPU shaped like a dock.

[@NathansNostalgia]

Good video! Just note that they are called graphical “enhancements” and not “enchantments” ha ha

[@lizard.y]

Thanks so much! Yeah, I only realized that after finalizing the video but since it was already rendered I just left it there lol

[@vexnity460]

there are no accidents.

[@SuperPlacido1]

What is the difference?

[@CdnCrits]

@@SuperPlacido1 an enchantment is like a magical spell. An enhancement means improvement

[@hat4621]

@@SuperPlacido1 bro are u ok?

[@Teikro]

I think it would be cool if they made a booster dock, like it would increase the power of the switch when docked

[@atomicluminos7320]

Somehow got this video on the front page on YT. Solid video. Wishing you success.

[@lizard.y]

Thank you so much!

[@Ragnarobb]

Clicked just for the Yoster Island font

[@dizdawgjr34]

I feel that the Wii Us name didn’t help it at all, and like you said people thought it was an addon for the OG Wii. If the switch successor is called Switch 2 that should be a good bit clearer that that’s the next big console release from Nintendo. Obviously they will still need good games and marketing but it should be enough to make people understand that it’s not just another variant of the OG switch. One other popular name I’ve seen floating around is Super Nintendo Switch which I feel should be reserved for a mid gen power+performance upgrade model of the switch 2

[@lizard.y]

Agreed!

[@schmity007]

@@lizard.y I'd like to add to his point. The elephant in the room on this topic is the Playstation. Literally each new one just increments the number by 1, and I've never really heard discussion of people mixing them up, or thinking the next one is just an add-on. Calling it "Switch 2" and just doing "the same, but more power" would honestly be fine. If they kept the exact same form factor, and changed up the visuals, they'd even have the benefit of backwards compatibility.

[@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4]

The Switch 2 just make people think it’s just more Switch which only appeals to hardcore but the hardcore are playing PS and Xbox and the console will be a flop. Instead, call it the “Nintendo Attach & Switch”. Leaving the switch family meanwhile stating it’s compatible

[@Elchinodawn]

@@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4 switch 2 literally makes ppl is switch, but 2, or in english, 2 comes after 1, switch 2 next console after switch, you make it look like ps and xbox are all super hardcore players and Nintendo's 3 years old, when most ppl on ps and xbox are also casuals

[@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4]

@@Elchinodawn ps and Xbox are targeting nerdy and hardcore gamers as well as teenagers and tech enthusiasts. On the other hand, Nintendo is aiming toward family with children, elderly and working adult, and the sweaty people are never their PRIMARY focus. Switch 2 just sound like a performance update and considering the family audience won’t core about crazy performance and graphics, they won’t upgrade. This console need a feature hook to let them buy and a decent performance boost to 1 tflops to allow Nintendo to make their visionary games. The attach feature, which is my suggestion(look at my comment), should be at front of the box and the console should be treated as new while featuring the hybrid form factor and the name including it as a safe net for casuals as well as seeing it as a base functionality instead of a hook. The backward compatibility help causal and gamers migrate over and that’s why I chose this name

[@joemommaoramma7090]

one idea is that they could make the switch 2 dock have extra processing, making it more like a conventional console, while keeping the mobility of the handheld option.

[@Ornithopter470]

There are issues with that. If you have a game that runs well docked, but runs terribly mobile, you don't really have a mobile gaming experience with that title. Or, if the game runs well mobile, it's not going to be particularly noticeable playing it at a higher resolution. Higher frame rates would be very noticeable, but I don't think the Switch's processor could keep a better GPU fed to keep up with that. And if you have a eGPU and eCPU, you basically have a console you plug your console into. It's a complicated balancing act.😊

[@ianeons9278]

I think Nintendo right now is just focusing on selling the rest of their Switches and is slowly holding out the next console for the right time. I’d say 2025 would be a great time to release it but 2024 is possible especially when you consider Metroid Prime 4, a new DK, and a new Mario are likely planned for that year. When the Switch 2 does come out in 2024 or 2025 the original Switch will drop in price (OLED $250, Base Switch $200, Lite $100). I mean if Nintendo follows these patterns they could outsell the PS2.

[@CharmedReally7]

too big of a price drop imo, no way switch lite will go for 100 dollars, 170 min imo

[@ianeons9278]

@@CharmedReally7 It will make sense in 2024 or 2025 when the Switch 2 comes out

[@kxndela]

oh cool i didn’t know we had market analyst in the chat. is working for Nintendo cool?

[@ianeons9278]

@@airaero5473 I think PS2 is a great console but it was less powerful than the GameCube and Xbox.

[@ianeons9278]

@@airaero5473 I’m just saying the Switch might beat the PS2 for the bestselling console of all time. Plus I don’t know very many Nintendo fans who hate the PS2.

[@ShadowRaptor1O1]

"I'm literally describing the Wii U" *describes literally every non-Nintendo console while avoiding the actual reasons the Wii U didn't sell*

[@M4x4r0ni]

I think a really easy means of upgrading the switch would be to reintroduce some parts from the 3ds/ds handhelds that they gutted for the switch. And by this I mean things like a camera, mic and stylus returning for this hybrid console. They can even upgrade/update some of these elements like making the stylus a somewhat hybrid of their old plastic pointed stylus's but a bit rubberier like tablet stylus's, or make the mic better since the small ones have definitely come a long way since they 3ds, maybe a camera lens at the top area on the switch could work. I also kinda hope that they actually make the base console more enjoyable like they did with the 3ds; maybe a new streetpass would be good, or bringing back the AR cards that the 3ds had for a period of time but with amiibo cards instead, face raiders was pretty distinct and noteworthy so maybe something equivalent for the next console? The base Switch, as great as it is, definitely leans heavy on the home console side. So adding elements from the handheld side of the family might be the best move to pull here as a means of adding things that are "new" but are very clearly familiar.

[@lizard.y]

That would be awesome, would love to see more fun stuff from 3DS/Wii U era brought back!

[@bluecheckmiya]

I think this would be an amazing idea

[@clttr]

face raiders two with i can't be kidding right now 10 new levels the base levels an updated "special stage" a final boss compiling more elements all new mechanics with all the stuff you mentioned (boss that appears on the screen with specific places to tap before moving to the tv screen, if you are on docked this boss isn't there. boss and enemies where you need to use the mic to blow them away or deal damage or ANYTHING) you could add refined graphics, music, everything. a streetpass boss that gives you higher reward but higher difficulty the more streetpasses you have, don't forget the spotpass stage where all enemies are like the spotpass logo and super hard mode at the end where you play through everything in the game except harder and the enemies spell out "thank you" at the end mario style. there's literally SO MUCH CONTENT HERE

[@GameOver-rt7js]

I like your idea but this would need to be incorporated into the controller making those poorly built Joy-con even more expensive and to the pro controllers in order to work in Docked Mode The PS5 Controller has a mic and it's awfully because I catches your inputs and everytime the rumble goes off which means it's completely useless for any general use Now the cameras would be dead on arrival, the 3ds cameras are so bad in quality even after the New 3ds revision, the problem is that smartphone companies use a lot of AI Processing to get super detailed Shots and for a minor feature on the switch 2 I don't think Nintendo will take their time to make it all work smoothly for the 5 games with camera support

[@FoxUnitNell]

I hope they include a 3ds cart slot and the 3d screen too.

[@rishisaini6680]

I'm actually so bored waiting for a new console, that I'm genuinely excited to go to my grandpa's house and get my dad's old SNES and play donkey Kong. I'm more excited about this than I was about Scarlet and Violet. Really shows how Nintendo has been delaying things too much lately.

[@lizard.y]

y'all im sorry for saying enchantments instead of enhancements i understand now 😭 and i really apologize for the wii u comparison, not the best idea and i should've thought it through. this has been a big learning experience for me, and thank you for the support and criticism! other videos: there's still hope for mario & luigi: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aojcqICPfNWfgJo update video on future of this channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXmvpHqlhLirg9k

[@vennrune]

Graphical Enchantments! We need more graphical ENCHANTMENTS!

[@lizard.y]

​@@vennrune if i could go back and fix one of the many things with that video, it'd be to fix that lmao

[@vennrune]

@@lizard.y You're good, I get it.

[@vennrune]

It really did get to the point where I thought "This must be intentional-" but its alright, we all make mistakes! I'll love my graphical Enchantments/Enhancements no matter how they come out.

[@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4]

@@lizard.y I have a concept for the successor of the switch, can you take a look? I don’t think the successor is gonna be graphically focus, it can be 1.5 tFlops portable and 1.8 tFlops docked as the successor just need to run Nintendo game decently and not having 4K support as 4K isn’t that noticeable, the performance is probably similar to the original 2013 PS4 and Xbox one. What they will aim for is 1080p60 portable and 1440p60 docked, also they’re gonna keep the hybrid from factor and have backward compatibility to transfer the switch player to the new system. Even though there is leak that shows the switch successor have 3 tFlops portable and 4 tFlops docked, I think that is just a experiment with a powerful upgrade and t239 may not be the final chip of the switch successor. The successor should also have a new hook, it can be my ‘attach’ idea, basically we add a slide rail to the top of the system for you to attach ‘attachments’. Attachments can be the platform for Nintendo to innovate without making new console. I have 3 examples of ‘attachment’, a second screen attachment that allows you to slide it to the top rail of the switch(attach) with a hinge connecting the screen and the system. The screens are put into a top(second screen) and bottom(main console) orientation like the DS. This can also be used separately when docked or in tabletop mode with two joy-cons on the side of the second screen, which also you to use it as a tablet-like device with main content on TV and others on the second screen that you hold like the Wii U. This allows for extra displayed content, two screen interactions and asymmetric multiplayer. A 3D screen can also be introduced with a 3D slider and a stereoscopic screen which is more expensive but allows for 3D experience like the 3DS. The second attachment can be a camera module that can be used attached portably and detached with kickstand docked, this allows for AR experience that interact with the real world like the ones from DSi/3DS. The module can have a front and 2 rear facing camera with a microphone. The final one is a VR band that have no hardware in it, it can only be used attached portably and transform the console into a VR headset which allows for VR experiences, VR is not enough to focus solely on the new console given it’s not mature and quite niche, making it one of the attachments makes sense as they can have less risk for trying a VR headset. The console can be named ‘Nintendo Attach & Switch’ as a reference to the Game & Watch and indicate the hybrid and the new attach mechanic really well. The attach mechanic is a platform for new idea, not a single new idea, here are only the example, more things can be done. I see them announcing a 6’ OLED normal version with 64GB for $299 and a 7’ OLED XL version with 128GB for $349. This allows them to aim at a mainly portable or a core audience.

[@Keeby219]

I honestly think prime 4 is going to do what BOTW and Twlight Princess did where its released on the previous gen console it was promised for but also release as a launch title for the next gen console

[@rutgerniemeijer]

I think so too. It's the game that makes most sense for that.

[@bartelvandervelden9894]

Metroid isn't a system seller, it's way too niche to carry the weight of the prime console release game. It'd be more of a major game you release after 6 months, to keep the hype of high quality top tier-releases going

[@rutgerniemeijer]

@@bartelvandervelden9894 I didn't think about that. On the other hand, it's been promised for switch, so it's weird to have it not release on that system.

[@bartelvandervelden9894]

@@rutgerniemeijer Indeed, so I'd shocked as well if they didn't release it on the switch. I won't be surprised if they'd do a definitive edition for the successor of the switch (if that console isn't backwards compatible). But this is all baseless speculation, we don't know anything about Nintendo's follow-up, let alone a release window

[@alazkaalazka6087]

@@bartelvandervelden9894gotta be New Mario Kart.

[@Skylar_244]

What I think needs to happen 1440p docked 1080p handheld 60fps but doubtful in handheld No stick drift Make the joycons have a stronger connection to the screen as they're a bit wobbly after heavy use Smaller bezels Oled screen Larger screen the size of oled

[@lizard.y]

100%, this would be the perfect time for a joycon revision fixing drift

[@Ilyb.444]

They wouldnt aim for 1440p because its too neiche. Either 4k or 1080p

[@zerosubswithnovideos3838]

60fps for handheld for sure

[@MrNoName999]

@@OrphicPolytheist 1tb is crazy considering the size of nintendo games. But 256gb would be nice

[@sosopwsi829Jjw9]

@@OrphicPolytheistHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHH

[@krokasan1]

I think one of their main areas for improvement is system software. They could (and probably should) take inspiration from other device makers (like Sony or Apple) and differentiate the new console by software features. For example, better social features, a good mobile app. Tie in the next generation of Nintendo games (Animal Crossing, Mario Kart...) with actually good phone apps that enhance the experience. Make things you do on your phone sync to the new console, to make the games feel even more alive. Plus better online capabilities. Combined with new titles and better graphics could already be enough to convince people

[@coolestto]

I don't know about all the phone stuff, but I agree software could be a big win for Nintendo that would also be really easy for them to implement. I mean we still don't have Netflix or themes for the Switch, which we all thought would surely be only a few months away back at launch. Online features are beyond primitive. Just a few big wins in these areas could make a Switch 2 feel like a massive leap forward.

[@JD-ou2qq]

Your channel is about to blow up man

[@lizard.y]

Thank you!

[@pepperoninmemesandclips5002]

I think it would be a good idea to release a powerful dedicated home console to compete with the PS5 and Xbox, but also keep supporting the Switch as essentially their handheld (that can also be docked), kind of like how they supported the original Gameboy throughout multiple console generations- only giving it slight enhancements late into its life during the 3rd console they produced alongside it. This would also help them hedge their bets if the next console isn't successful.

[@hottacos2975]

I assumed they would just follow the DS route. Pretty much the same but each iteration upgrades internal hardware while keeping them looking similar enough

[@DeltaOdyssey]

Nice video, and your channel is definitely underrated. You articulated your points really well and I hope you're able to keep up the great quality.

[@lizard.y]

Thank you so much!!

[@billybandoogle]

Great video! I think a switch 2/pro is definitely the easiest route for them to take, but they could do something that channels the mistakes of the past into success of the future. Along with a boosted handheld they could drop a “dock plus” or something of that nature. Something that while docked can push/over clock the older devices without the workload coming from the handheld… another thing they could add with an update is remote play especially for the switch lites, that way they could be used as a controller to play couch co-op on a friend’s “Dock+” … basically making it an upgraded Wii u… n finally all the social interactions they took out from Wii u n 3ds, mii plaza , Nintendo world, spot pass bonuses. None of those things exist cuz it would lag and run like trash on their current hardware, but the “switch 2” could definitely bring some life back the the bland 2 colour u I we had for 7 years

[@kombokenji]

Awesome video to watch while at work, gonna watch more rambling fosho!

[@tylermartell2023]

If they go for a regular 4K console, then it come with a controller that can split into 2. Pokemon stadium 3 needs to be a launch title

[@Kayclau]

I think, one of the things that damaged WiiU sales was the overall confusion on what the product actually was. It looked like the WiiU gamepad was the entire thing that was an add-on to the Wii and that the HD upgrade was optional. What I think they should do, if it's even possible, is to make the dock help run the games better and separately make a more powerful Switch while still making the majority of games compatible with the regular Switch for about a 3 year transition period. They sell the bundle as the Super Switch and the dock as an optional Switch enhancement. They always say they're still gonna support the previous console, but in therms of games that statement only last about a year at most, which is also a problem Nintendo has.

[@IAmPaulQuinn]

Love the video, Lizardy! Your KZbin bio calling yourself a "nintendrone" was hilarious. Keep making more content, if you wish!

[@lizard.y]

Thank you so much! I will continue to make videos to the best of my ability!

[@SNoodleJuJu]

I do agree that the switch 2 should be bigger, but only in the shorter side, so they can fit potentially beneficial but thick items inside of it. And also a better fan.

[@Orangedelta]

Great video man 👍 The next Nintendo console sure will be interesting

[@Nintentoad125]

I think it's likely we'll here an "announcement" of sorts in June. June is usually when Nintendos annual shareholders meetings are held. This is where the Switch (or "NX" as it was called then) was originally annouced.

[@pikan3977]

You had me til the price - usually I’d say $300 is their sweet spot, but with inflation and the specs needed to stay competitive with current gen, I’m thinking it has to be at least $400

[@MoonieLovegood]

Even with inflation nintendo makes A GOOD buck. I dont think its necessary to increase the price.

[@pikan3977]

@@MoonieLovegood The reason behind that is that the switch sold so well, production costs went down. When it launched in 2017 they about broke even on consoles. The tech barrier between Switch and current gen is astronomical, even the Steam Deck at $400 can barely do it and Valve takes a giant loss on them. If they want to keep third party support and make a profit they have no choice

[@bylouala579]

I think nintendo should improve a lot in some cases, but maintain the portability and simplicity in it’s form. One major thing they could improve are the joycons, adding analog triggers, haptic feedbacks like the ps5, no drifts, speakers and even a mic. This would improve every niche possible that nintendo needs to explore, like better on the go multiplayer with 5g and wifi everywhere and better immersion, especially when it comes with VR.

[@beanslol1725]

Drift even happens on the ps5 it’s no where near as bad as Nintendo but i don’t think Nintendo can completely get rid of it

[@AHLDN]

​@@beanslol1725 my brother experienced the drift its bad

[@simmbo]

agreed, i just dont think the analog triggers would be much of a upgrade, i dont see many uses justifiying it and it would require the controller to be bigger and less portable

[@damienlobb85]

I think it's possible Nintendo could go with a different SoC for the successor. nVidia have practically exited the mobile space where Tegra use to be found in tablets and even phones. The Adreno GPU in the latest Snapdragon devices has far surpassed what nVidia is doing on portable devices outside of laptops..

[@alessandrooliveira3218]

search for the leak of T239.

[@ryuno2097]

@@alessandrooliveira3218 Oh noe. I that a new Terminator?

[@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4]

@@alessandrooliveira3218 Nintendo have probably abandoned the t239 and moved on, Nintendo usually keep their chipset secretive and clearly that was leaked before 2021. It’s not sure if they have a final decision on the chipset yet. I think they wasting too much of the chipset and it is not optimised well still due to Nvidia switching direction of including X1 compatibility, consumption of power and cost. The newest leak from t239 the spec have suggested the chip is adopted for something else(perhaps a Sony handheld project) as it is 3 teraflops while assuming the same cooling system. The dev kit are recycled for Sony and the nvn(Switch) mode are remains of early development and presumably depredated. Then, what chipset? I think they will place a custom order and heavily modify the tegra X2 to allow 1.5 tflops performance with achieving 1080p30/720p60 handheld and 1440p30/1080p60 docked. It’s compatible with the X1 although have to be heavily modified to work. Even still, it will have far lesser work rather than working with a Orin which have be EXTREMELY modified that it is impractical and lose compatibility.

[@alessandrooliveira3218]

@@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4 Sony works with AMD, not Nvidia. And do you really think Nintendo will abandon a 3 Tflop hardware to utilize a mere and outdated 1.5 Tflops ? And what leak suggest that T239 is not utilized for the next switch? All leaks I saw point to the opposite. Nintendo will utilize it and have the best hybrid machine they can do. 3 Tflops on Dock and 1.8 on handled. Plus DLSS 2.x to make their games run at 4K on TV and 1080p on handled.

[@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4]

@@alessandrooliveira3218 I don’t see they do 3 teraflops, too power hungry, incompatible and expensive. There is a reason why they abandoned the t239 after 2021. The chip will make the switch successor having a mere 1 hour-1 hour 30 minutes battery life and cost something more like PS or Xbox. I don’t see them abandoning hybrid, raising the price by significant margin and incompatible with the Switch. Apple is already investing in ARM and since PS/Xbox probably want something more inline with the M chip, it can be in one of the planned console and battery life would not be a concern as it’s a home console constantly plug into an outlet. In addition, the Switch successor would want to keep the popular hybrid from factor and switch compatibility, also having a brand new feature as the hook to the successor and Nintendo have always wanted to be innovative and accessible where is t239 is anti-Nintendo with the high price and killing hybrid idea and prohibit new ideas as well since it requires resource and the hybrid form factor too.

[@corey_clip]

Anyone who says they can't tell the difference between 30 and 60fps is straight up lying. The difference is so huge it's insane

[@bengamin98]

A switch that could switch between tv, handheld, and VR headset would be a pretty amazing. the switch could just slide into an official headset mount. Nintendo has already experimented with the switch VR concept with LABO, so I could see them going that route.

[@ThEDyLnCaLi]

I've long believed Nintendo should break into VR. They were the first to innovate with motion controls on the Wii, and made a console powerful enough to be used as a handheld. Combining the two into VR is the only logical next step.

[@CosmicLumie]

I think a very simple incentive Nintendo could use to sell a switch is have native voice chat support (even better if they give discord support because of its being on every other recent gaming system). They should also add simple things like a headphone jack on the controllers

[@JtMoney88]

There is no way in hell with inflation the way it is that Nintendo releases a 4K console for $300.

[@beargrub8932]

calling it graphical enchantment instead of enhancement makes it sound so whimsical lol i love it

[@mitch_sorenstein]

I just became subscriber 278. Your videos are great. I wish you many more subscribers in the future.

[@lizard.y]

Thank you so much!!

[@phonepup06]

I think the biggest issue with the Wii U was that people thought it was genuinely just the gamepad; when I was first hearing about it that’s what I thought. Of course people wouldn’t want to buy a $300 accessory.

[@LleytonSPD]

The reason that the wii u was bombed because it relied on a gimmick that people have been tired of for ten years. No one will ever get tired of the hybrid model because its not a gimmick, its JUST objectively better than any other console formula

[@cgwworldministries83]

I think Nintendo is about to do the third option as it’s their only real avenue. There’s no way they can just release an updated switch. “But i already have a switch”. Maybe it’ll be a 3D switch like the 3ds. Something with a gimmick that’s easy to tack on that tells people it’s new while at the same time bumping the specs. Most Nintendo fans don’t care about specs, we buy Nintendo for their gimmicks.

[@lizard.y]

Agreed 100%, they shouldn't focus primarily on improving specs, innovation is also key

[@cgwworldministries83]

@@lizard.y i can only summate what they’ll do. Nintendo gets their inspiration from watching kids play with toys. It’s always about what’s fun.

[@cyberreaper18]

Switch 2 in my dreams: 60 fps and up to 4k resolution Switch games working on switch 2 Adaptive triggers and haptic feedback like a ps5 controller Virtual Console

[@Troy-ry5pp]

The switch 2 could be something like a detachable 3Ds. The 2 screens being separate and act like a regular DS when connected. When disconnected the top can act as the main screen and the screen used to connect the doc to. The bottom screen can act like the Wii U gamepad.

[@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4]

Maybe also a camera module too. Btw, these should be sold separately rather than bundled

[@Radu33-]

Shitty gimmick

[@Bendylife]

I think they will keep the general design in portable mode, but add new features in different modes. I can see having the ability to adapt into a VR mode for VR games in the future and potentially a graphic boosting dock. What ever the case, my bet is the innovation will be around the "Switching" capability. Instead of just two modes they will expand

[@jlever]

One thing that really confuses me is why they don't just make Tears of the Kingdom the debut game for the next console. Breath of the Wild arguably saved Nintendo, because it essentially served as a reminder that they can still make excellent games after the poor sales of the Wii U. There are clear concerns with Nintendo having a rough period transitioning from the Switch to something else, and there are also clear concerns of Tears of the Kingdom not living up to its hype due to the Switch's hardware limitations. It really seems like you can fix all of these problems by having Tears of the Kingdom be the debut game for the next console. With Tears of the Kingdom winning most anticipated game at the Game Awards, making it a debut game for the next console will ensure the console starts out financially succesful. Like you're telling me that Tears of the Kingdom is one of the 4 upcoming Nintendo games. They couldn't wait one more year for the next console to release Tears of the Kingdom? Those last 4 Nintendo games should be reserved for minor shit like a new Mario vs Donkey Kong or something, so that they can spend their energy on the next console and on Tears of the Kingdom.

[@lizard.y]

Yeah, ToTK would be a great launch game. That's why I think they'd at least have the graphical upgrades for the game exclusive to it. Maybe also even exclusive DLC?

[@ianeons9278]

After the poor sales of the Wii U? If anything the games of the Wii U era were amazing because they tried harder in times of commercial failure.

[@sipinthatbub]

I think the reason they couldn't hold ToTK any longer is because hype fades away. BoTW attracted many new people to the Zelda franchise, but without a new entry they will lose interest, i see it with my husband for example, he got into Zelda games with BoTW, but ToTK took so long he barely has any hype for it. In my case, i have been a Zelda fan for many years, but back in 2021 i was more hyped for Metroid Dread than this BoTW sequel. Now some of this hype has come back with the last trailers, and I already pre-ordered, but if they had announced a 2024 release date, my interest would have decreased considerably, and if they had made it a next-gen exclusive i would have thought "nah, I'm not buying that on full price, I'll wait until the console gets a price cut"

[@Sjono]

Because the Switch is still selling and there’s no reason to delay this already finished game to coincide with the successor’s launch

[@ianeons9278]

@@Sjono Sometimes delaying an already finished game makes it even better.

[@SuperCrazyfin]

1:00 Thats a super simplistic way of looking at the Wii U.

[@AKablalik]

I don’t like the idea of them giving a price cut the base switch because they’d then essentially be giving everyone who bought the switch before hand a giant middle finger.

[@lizard.y]

Very true lol, maybe they'd have some sort of reward like the people who bought the 3DS before the massive price cut where they got 20 free games

[@dansmith1661]

Nintendrones are used to paying more.

[@Josuh]

@@lizard.y what the fuck when

[@lizard.y]

@@Josuh 2011 I believe? The games weren't that big to my knowledge, just a little something for the people who bought it before the price drop

[@hubblebublumbubwub5215]

A big difference between the Switch and Wii is that the Switch familiarized mainstream audiences with many Nintendo IPs, most of which have staying power. Also it's a more appealing product in general, especially now that the industry is trending towards mid-sized games like fortnite and fall guys.

[@CyberPT111]

I’ve been wanting to buy a switch oled. But im afraid when i buy one, a new nintendo console gets announced. What do you guys recommend me to do? Buy or wait? Thanks.

[@lizard.y]

If you already have a regular Switch, I'd wait till at least fall before getting an OLED

[@Arcanesquish]

Same here until a few hours ago. Finally decided to wait it out for the switch 2 just in case it comes out next year

[@victorl5402]

If you have a switch already, I’d say wait. If you play docked, there’s no difference. If you play handheld, sure the screen is better, but is it really worth spending for just a better screen? I’d rather enjoy my games and buy the next console in a year or two.

[@Rafael-zl4vu]

my opinion is a bit different from the other guys. i don't think nintendo will release switch 2 right now. probably 2 years. its's a long time without playing good games. even 1 year is. we don't know if there'll be any campatiblity with switch games at all. buy a switch, play a lot and when nintendo release switch 2 you sold your old one and buy a new one. that's what im going to do.

[@nodzee97]

Don’t a oled is so pointless all you ever see is “but the screen looks nice” it’s not worth 350 especially if you already have a switch.

[@trontski]

i think it’d be interesting to continue the switch and expanding the switch family as nintendos main “handheld” console while keeping them hybrid. they could go back to consecutive portable and home consoles. focus on home consoles could also allow nintendo to compete closer with other home consoles in terms of performance

[@sqrrl]

I enjoyed the video, and I agree that the timeline would add up, especially since releasing a new model or generation of switch before Christmas would financially make sense. Also love the "enchantments" instead of "enhancements" since no matter what lead to it, whether a bit, a brain fart misreading, or simply never getting corrected on it before, it gave me some joy

[@lizard.y]

Thanks lmfao, I didn't realize the enchantments thing till after I rendered it, and didn't think many people would notice.. i was very wrong lmao

[@meagerknight1653]

Don’t think that there is any going back. I see a more powerful piece of hardware but a major change to the dock with some sort of egpu feature.

[@ForsakenFenix]

hmmm... have enough power in the handheld for 720p at 60hz, but docked the eGPU pushes the Rez to 4k at 60hz.... that could work actually.

[@Radu33-]

@@ForsakenFenix upscaling an already shitty looking game won't do anything then seeing more pixels of ugliness egpus are also extremely expensive totally not worth it for a company that wants to profit as much as possible of hardware

[@ForsakenFenix]

@@Radu33- You’re missing the point, this would but on a new more powerful system, that can play higher fidelity games. The internal gpu would be good enough to power the, let’s say, 1080p screen, but the egpu in the dock could push it to 1440p or maybe 4k. The game would just switch to the higher resolution textures when docked.

[@ForsakenFenix]

@@Radu33- I do agree that they probably won’t do this for cost reasons though.

[@lethalButters]

I think they NEED to have a good profile transfer + ability to play switch games. I would only get rid of my switch for the new one if I’m guaranteed to be able to play my physical and digital games. They should also just call it Switch 2. No need for weird names to stand out, make it simple to understand. Bonus points if I can use my current joycons and pro controller with the new console. If they make it more powerful and can even run regular switch games way better then I’d definitely get it.

[@actualatom]

Super switch would be nice imo

[@JulioCesar-xr5vv]

Switch 2 is the way to go. PlayStation is here to prove it. All of my non gamer friends absolutely can tell the difference between a ps4 and a ps5.

[@BananaGeekLord]

Slight counter argument: You said the Wii U was just an upgrade and it failed, so they shouldn't do that. Playstation is on their 5th console Xbox is on their 4th. Yes, there are always minor tweaks and changes here and there, but for the most part peoppe buy it because it's the more updated, powerful console. People weren't buying the PS3 for the sixaxis motion controls. Or the PS4 for the touch pad. Games barely even use those, and when they do they don't even always work that well. The Wii u failed for a fee reasons, but I never felt like it was because it was an updated Wii so much as the Wii just wasn't that popular with a lot of hardcore gamers. A lot of the people it was popular with just weren't the type of people who would go out and buy a brand new system when the current one works for their Wii sports. The system was also know for having a ton of shovelware, which didn't exactly change with thenext iteration. So it will need some things like an upgraded controller, but for the most part just make a better Switch, and just keep updating it, and they could possibly ride on that for awhile.

[@BiggusJakeus]

At this point, Metroid Prime 4 either needs to be a launch title for the next console, or the absolute BEST looking Switch game.

[@amysteriousviewer3772]

It will probably only look slightly better the Prime remaster.

[@mikearndt8210]

please nintendo i beg you. don’t call it the “new nintendo switch”

[@Colorado-Coyote]

I'm of the opinion that backward compatibility with digital games would be a problem. Unless they are games you have originally purchased on the original switch, those should transfer over. The last thing I want is the new market to be oversaturated.

[@LachlanKearney]

Interesting video! I like a lot of the analysis but I think as a gimic, the switches hybrid nature is solid enough I recon they'll take future development closer to a phone, where they itterate on the same concept, improving joy cons (man after a good few years of use they feel janky), and stuff. One thing i think you should have considered with "just a graphics upgrade" is something incredible they could pull off. So idk if you know much about PC, but to simplify it: NVIDIA is a company who made the switches process has added a new feature over the last few years called DLSS, where a game is run at a very low resolution, and AI is used to upscale it. It's honestly mind-blowing how good it works (I can send U a video if U wana see). Including this could mean that Nintendo could get massive performance jumps, battery life could get so much bigger, ect. If they can get DLSS working on switch, I think that's a game changer

[@lizard.y]

Oh yeah, DLSS would be great for a Switch 2!

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

Since there's now a separate option for dock firmware updates, that could be used to ench-- I mean _enhance_ the Switch in at least temporary lieu of an all-new system, possibly giving it Wii U-like functionality. Also remember that Nintendo recently briefly flirted with VR again with the Labo visor.

[@umario251]

love your videos sm and hope you grow, and just so you know, graphical enchantments sounds WAY better and more magical than boring enhancements 😂

[@dylanstaley6089]

I think they should add dual screens like the DS and a sensor bar like the wii to help the joycons. You can bring back touch screen gameplay and also motion control games.

[@lizard.y]

I'd love if they brought back elements from the DS, even stuff from 3DS like Streetpass would be amazing.

[@beingmegucaissuffering.5326]

I feel like a hybrid switch successor that implements the DS dual screens in handheld mode and the WiiU gamepad in docked would make a ton of sense. The two screen format just screams Nintendo and would appeal to DS nostalgia.

[@nodzee97]

I would love that it would make DS games feel natural to emulate on and for modern games it could display extra information(in-game maps, menus, text chat,scoreboard etc.)

[@nodzee97]

And 3ds games aswell

[@2021visions]

The difference is the wii u was something no one asked for. A more powerful switch however is highly anticipated

[@thebe_stone]

I cant believe they are enchanting the graphics

[@ClassikSprites]

I think they should re-add that feature from the Wii where you could order pizza.

[@dylanjohansen7360]

Metroid prime 4 will be the “launch title” of the new switch, it will probably be best to display the new power and that’s probably why we haven’t seen it for so long

[@lizard.y]

Agreed! They literally *can't* show it since it's not a Switch game likely anymore.

[@astroxxie]

I want in "Nintendo switch 2" something like dock pro, let me explain. It's like bigger dock and when you put there your "switch 2" you get access to the more powerful components

[@LachlanKearney]

The idea of the dock being upgraded is intriguing but I think it leaves too much risk for consumers, I think new switch will always mean new dock (with backwards compatibility) A part of my loves the does of different docks coming out as well as different switchs and you could Mix and match for the best personable but I could never see that happening

[@Sky.Lukewalker]

I think it'll have a big push for supporting VR. VR is the best use of the motion controllers Nintendo's been into since Wii, and they've already tried it with the Switch, but it was underpowered and blurry. I'm not huge on Nintendo, but if I could play Mario Kart or Metroid in VR, it'd be an instant buy from me!

[@lizard.y]

That would be very interesting, I just think they'd need to be smart pulling it off. One of Nintendos major focuses with their systems is easy accessibility, and they'd need to make the VR simple to access, a pick-up and play type thing. I'm sure they could pull it off tho

[@Sky.Lukewalker]

love this Mario Kart VR arcade!: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2OQpmOqnptggaM

[@Papinak2]

​@@lizard.y They'd need headset to click the tablet into - it could contain hardware for inside-out tracking, too (and joycons support add-ons, so they could be reused, although not ideal) They already have OLED screen (although higher resolution would be needed to achieve atleast PSVR level of quality). Then they'd need some sort of frame generation to get 100+FPS - that's within realms of what Nvidia's chipset can do. The result would be cheaper than PSVR2, untethered, but more capable than Oculus. Overall, I think that VR as next gimmick could work out for Nintendo

[@animus444k]

As a PC gamer with a 3090 and over 300 games in my library, i can tell you right now the switch may not be powerful but it's quality of games far exceeds those of other consoles and PC as well. I don't mind Nintendo continuing to just support the current switch and maybe just release more updated versions. Nintendo just makes great games.

[@flamingosarerad9362]

I think it would be cool as hell (assuming they follow the Switch model) to call their next system the “Super Switch”. And go all out with retro 80s branding and marketing. Advertise it as the most powerful Nintendo console ever and market it with boldness and electricity 👌🏼🙌🏼

[@kenyaholloway-reliford8213]

I'd actually be perfectly fine if Nintendo split consoles and handhelds again, if it meant cheaper games

[@juandiegotorres9632]

I would love a Switch DS backwards compatible with 3ds games. It could be completely handheld like the switch lite. Or maybe you could take the top half and dock it and keep the bottom screen. There could be switch DS exclusive games that take advantage of the bottom screen.

[@MoonieLovegood]

Or make an extension for the bottom screen similar to the rumble pack of the first ds. You can utilize the charging port though u wouldnt be able to charge it while playing.

[@GetAwesomeGaming]

imo they need to bring back the clam shell design. I feel better about the screen when it's only exposed during hand held play

[@2Horrible]

I think as long as they keep releasing big ip games like a BOTW 3, Mario Odyssey 2, Mario Kart 10, I could see the switch survive up to 10 years. I honestly see the switch lasting unti 2027.

[@hickoryhippo5072]

Oh me too and most switch owners aren't asking for a beefy switch. I personally would love a switch that can just play current titles at 4k when docked, but I think the market for that is incredibly niche

[@rickycontreras2766]

Feedback: you’re right where you should be and doing great. Just be yourself and you’ll do great as you have been

[@coolperson8241]

I think we need another virtual boy.. that has literally been the most fun and succesful console BY FAR, No more wii garbage or switch trash. The company would be 1000 times more succesful if they made another virtual boy just like the last one

[@lizard.y]

TRUE

[@EggiRoll]

Incredible video man, really great points!

[@lizard.y]

Thank you so much!!

[@aylo.mp3]

graphical enchantments ???? you mean enhancements bro?

[@Batonaz]

Bros mad over a small mistake

[@matthewbennett631]

"Super Nintendo Switch" is the name I think is most appealing, but it might be difficult to market. "Switch 2" has a lower risk of repeating the wii U debacle

[@frustis]

Unpopular opinion: lengthen the switch's life another 4 or 5 years, no hurries. Just needs good games. Let it be the longest living console in history

[@martinduebner]

Using actual powerful modern hardware would also drive up production cost for their games, because then they would have no excuse anymore for their games to look so low effort and everything would need to be much more detailed like the game worlds over on PlayStation. On Switch they can just say: "yeah we cant do more cause... Switch bad."

[@izzycrybaby1164]

Every time he says enchantment instead of enhancement I die a little bit

[@lizard.y]

IM SORRY LMAOO i only realized once the video finished rendering, and didn't thibk it would be that big of a deal lol 💀

[@davidthomas8766]

I had to double take on that. Thanks for mentioning something so I dont need to feel crazy.

[@mariofanl1ve]

The word "switch" better not be in the title. We don't want people thinking it's an addon or just upgraded version of the original.

[@gregkempchannel]

Graphics have typically been one of the biggest reasons to develop a newer console, and IMO since at least the WiiU generation graphics have been good enough. I don't need to count the number of hairs on the characters face and I appreciate that Nintendo has focused on fun games (both in presentation and gameplay) rather than hyper realistic appearance. So I really don't think Nintendo should do anything more than a fully compatible but otherwise enhanced console, rather than starting over with a whole new console forcing everyone to upgrade to play the latest games. As an aside, I tend to think the WiiU's failure was largely marketing as they failed to make it obvious this was something entirely new, it is a great console with a lot of innovation going into it and I still use mine regularly.

[@Melkac]

Yeah no buddy, you’re wrong. “Graphics” isn’t just about how pretty things look, switch 2 having low system specs will prevent developers from porting their games to it and may even prevent some games developed FOR the console to compromise on some of its vision due to low system specs.

[@resean2727]

Nah, man, games are struggling to run at 30 fps nowadays. Better power means developers are more likely to port games as it will be easier for them.

[@rimbycarkey4229]

What I think would be a big improvement would be having a similar form factor but a combined mobile, home and VR console. It’s a stretch but it could make it the ultimate console.

[@alexjustalexyt1144]

I know it sounds wierd but it would be cool if they made a switch, same specs, same quality, same everything but it's made a bit smaller and in the shape of a DS. I always thought it was so weird that a system that is supposed to portable can't fit in your pocket and even if it can you'll most likely damage the joycons.

[@itsnotderryl]

I put joycons in one screen in other

[@kalevipoeg6916]

That'd be a non-starter for those of us with big hands - it's already uncomfortable as it is to hold the Switch joycons! Maybe in the tiny-hands Japanese market though - but they might do something SIMILAR to that since they do seem to want to keep a hand on that smaller handheld sector too.

[@jesusramirezromo2037]

You can put it in your pockets, What kind of pants do you use?

[@MEWOVER9000]

Literally call it "Switch 2". Bam, done. Worked for Playstation

[@hudson8074]

To hear more about graphical enchantments: 6:08 6:23 6:48

[@lizard.y]

godspeed 🙏

[@amog8202]

A switch+ with slight improvements and major power increase can hold consumers off for years honestly. Adding support for 8 local players in more games will completely change the market, they should know.

[@ThatKermitGuy]

They could make a sort of Wii-U. Allow it to connect wirelessly or through a dock to a console for more powerful gaming. Make the dock on the console detachable so you can take your Switch without the console anywhere and still have the option for a TV screen.

[@prettyoriginalnameprettyor7506]

I just want joycons that don't drift and actual modern hardware

[@kavanpuranik98]

Here's what I think Nintendo could do next: 1) Maybe make a switch heavy that's console only? But much more powerful than the current switch. I mean, we already have a switch lite that's exclusively a handheld, so why not a switch heavy that's exclusively a console? 2) Make a new console that has only a wireless controller and a USB connection that goes to the TV, kinda like the Amazon fire TV stick. You can download games or use your current games. 3) upgrade the switch lite by adding a projector to it so that you can project a game in HD onto a wall or something. So it'll be like playing on a TV, on the go! 4) Nintendo Gamephone: Smartphone gaming is getting popular these days, but playing on the smartphone can be kinda inconvenient, so Nintendo can make a clamshell design that had the screen on one side and the controls on the other. So like, make the Nintendo DS again basically, but use it exclusively for smartphone gaming and doing everything a smartphone can, except making calls. This can be great for simulation games like ... i don't knoe, maybe a farming game or a restaurant simulator game, or maybe even visual novels. 5) Nintendo gaming calculator: A fully functional scientific calculator that can play basic 8 bit games. 6) Nintendo PC. Make an entire computer. A very powerful one. Like, with it's own monitors, CPU, gaming keyboard, gaming mouse, special gun joysticks thay can be used to play shooter games; maybe there's a motion sensor in it that allows you to track the camera, a few buttons on the gun to move forward, backward, reload etc. A nintendo computer VR set. This isn't just gonna be a regular VR set; you can use this to play RPGs and games that require beautiful visuals; you can either go full VR, run jump, swing your joystixk around like a sword etc or just sit on the couch with the goggles on and have one joycon like controller on each arm. Basically, this PC can connect to any and all accessories that can be helpful to gaming.

[@notbutz9737]

Switch Hevi

[@GatCat]

The rationale you gave regarding the Wii U’s lack of success could also be applied to the Wii itself. New gimmick after the GameCube. Yet, that didn’t flop. Design, marketing, market.

[@crispitycrunchy]

I think the Wii U’s name is what killed it, not to mention the fact that it looks exceptionally similar to the original Wii and the hardcore focus on the gamepad throughout the console’s life, which probably led many to think the Wii U was some sort of add-on. All I think they need to do to ensure success with a new Switch is to do what Sony does and put a number after the name so it is blatantly clear that the new console is an upgrade.

[@Josuh]

i yearn for a world where the wii u wasn't named the wii u so that the switch wouldn't have so many rehashed titles from the wii u

[@bryanjedi8242]

Missing a lot context with Wii to Wii U. 1. The Wii sold well but it didn’t have the game attache rate the Switch does. 2. Skyward Sword didn’t sell that well. It seemed like a lot of people were over the motion controls. 3. People were confused on what the Wii U was. An accessory? A Wii Pro? 4. Despite using the Wiimote for bc very few Wii U games used them. 5. Nintendo didn’t have a lot software to make the Gamepad compelling. All Nintendo really has to do is have noticeable bump in power, refine the hardware, and I hate to say make titles like the next 3D Mario exclusive to the Switch. No cross Gen titles for system selling games.

[@asuperrandomguy8266]

People don't buy nintendo for more powerful consoles, that Sony and Microsoft business. Nintendo use gimmicks to make itself feels unique even if the hype dies over time, they just need the primary boost. Wii would have sold nearly as much if wasn't for its gimmick.