The Problem With Biodiesel That No One Talks About

[@powerstrokemaintenance]

Thank you to ‪@Voidrunner01 for taking the time to point out my incorrect interpretation the NREL study in the previous version of this video.

[@elvertmack5039]

2019 f250...weight loss program as soon as I got it. Never have to worry about unnecessary problems dealing with the emissions system.

[@powerstrokemaintenance]

The other point I did not consider in this video was the age of my DPF. I’m sure if you have a DPF that’s fresh from the factory it will be better able to handle the soot load of bio diesel. At the same time though, with better quality fuel my DPF performs as good as it did 100,000 miles ago. So I’m not exactly sure how to interpret this.

[@macbeliever]

I filled my semi up at a Casey’s truck stop yesterday, which had biodiesel in it, treated it with hot shots winter treatment, and this morning I was gelled up at 0 F. Pretty sure it was because of the biodiesel and it ended up having high water contamination. I’ll never fill up at a Casey’s knowing I’ll be in cold weather again.

[@willb7975]

For what it's worth...project farm recently did another review of antigel products a dew days ago. Informative if anything, to include the repair geek linking up with lake speed Jr for an additive test of a small group of common products. Glad I don't have to deal with forced bio products in the mid Atlantic coast. Yall keep warm and don't gel up.

[@powerstrokemaintenance]

Thanks for the comments

[@macbeliever]

@@willb7975 yeah I follow them both regularly and seen the vids. The problem is definitely the biodiesel, as I’ve used Howes and Hot Shots in the past with good success well bellow 0 F. I’ve recently switched to Hot Shots after researching the lubricity benefits. It seems to me the only way to reliably keep the bio blends from gelling is to blend it with #1 fuel.

[@allenpardon8211]

@@willb7975 I watched that video and there were some of those anti gel I have never heard of before and I drove a semi for 29 years. I have always used howes and never had a problem with it but it didn’t do as well as others so brand name isn’t always the best. Peak actually won that test and it’s a new one to me.

[@williamcrist1887]

Your information is very interesting Back in 2012 I had a F-350 6.7. I noticed every time I took my truck to north Texas. On the way home(back to the coast) I would pick up 2-3mpg and my truck would not go into regen like it would do on a normal daily commute or even on the trip up to north Texas. I finally realized that when I would fill up in north Texas they had non-biodiesel. Where on the coast we had biodiesel. I started filling my transfer tank up with the diesel from north Texas every time I went up and found that my regen’s went way down and my mileage was a little better. Now the odd thing was I was getting the diesel in north Texas at these little fuel stations where as on the coast I always got diesel at Buc-ees. I even went as far to think that maybe there was something wrong with Buc-ees diesel Now in my new truck 2021 F-350 it does not tell me when it goes into regen like my 2012 plus finding non-biodiesel in Texas anywhere is darn near impossible Good information

[@powerstrokemaintenance]

Interesting story! Thanks for sharing. It’s wild how sensitive these new trucks are to fuel quality

[@univisiontech1]

Have you heard about R99 diesel?

[@JustinKingOffroad]

luckily we don't have much, if any, of that b20 bullcrap here in noco.

[@powerstrokemaintenance]

That’s good it’s junk

[@SuperdutyExplorer]

Wisconsin boy, yes avoid B20 at all cost! My mileage drops by like 10-20% useing it as well! Probably whatever % it is lol

[@powerstrokemaintenance]

That's a huge drop in mileage. My truck is the same way!

[@jlweck231978]

Here in IL i would primarily fill up at Meijer becasue they had regular diesel, not biodiesel. About 6+ months ago now Meijer changed over to Biodiesel. Now i can't find real diesel anywhere in IL. No codes yet. Hopefully never

[@powerstrokemaintenance]

That’s too bad they changed over. Hope the codes never show up!

[@justinbeauchane4786]

Find a cenex

[@jlweck231978]

​@justinbeauchane4786 no Cenex anywhere near me. The only time I have seen a Cenex is when I went to Dodgeville Wisconsin just outside Madison.

[@justinbeauchane4786]

@@jlweck231978 what about Petro serve? Find a place that has #1 and mix it

[@marklyons4999]

And now Ford is blaming biodiesel for fuel pump failures

[@powerstrokemaintenance]

Of course they are 😂 where did you find that info?

[@DonziGT230]

My Diesel Fords have never had this problem even when using B99 and WMO. I guess the 7.3s have better DPF systems. 🤪

[@Ltngdrvr]

Well, Sir, not buying what you're saying. I run about 70K miles a year currently, a few years back I would run as much as 100K miles a year, and almost every pump I filled at was biodiesel. 220K miles on my first DPF equipped 2012 F250 6.7 diesel, over 614K miles on the 2015 RAM Cummins that followed that, and currently 220K miles on my 2022 F250 6.7 diesel and absolutely no biodiesel derived issues with any of them. Never any P2459 codes, all emissions intact and operating properly. In addition, there are hundreds of thousands of 18 wheelers running millions of miles every year, all running that same biodiesel. If this was a real issue, all of those trucks would be having constant problems, and it just isn't happening. Also, by the way, the BP15 is just BP's 15% biodiesel blend.

[@powerstrokemaintenance]

Thanks for the comment, but it sounds like your experience with biodiesel is different from the issues I have encountered.

[@Ltngdrvr]

@@powerstrokemaintenance Point being that I do not believe your issue stems from biodiesel use.

[@powerstrokemaintenance]

@Ltngdrvr that’s fair. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Do you think it’s from the age of my DPF?

[@Ltngdrvr]

@@powerstrokemaintenance Not necessarily age, but could have some defect. But, you have already discovered that changing parts without thorough diagnostics is not the way to fix it. A really good diagnostic tech is what you need, to do the deep dive to find the core issue. Anything short of that is just guessing.

[@jlweck231978]

​@Ltngdrvr good suggestions. I can't find any real diesel anymore. It's been 6+ months since I have been able to find non bio. So far no issues. Completely stock truck except I just installed the dcr hpfp a couple weeks ago. I have 161k+ miles on the truck. 18' f350 6.7.

[@MR_P03]

The fix is don't stop in Ohio for fuel - LOL

[@powerstrokemaintenance]

Obviously lol

[@phillipgarrow2297]

I won't ever be ran in my truck just like I won't put E85 in my corvette

[@powerstrokemaintenance]

Makes sense!

[@coreymacqueen4802]

B20 is way too much… B2 or B5 is good for lubricity and won’t cause DPF issues.

[@CoryLapworth]

The one thing California is doing right is the renewable diesel, it better in every way as far as i can tell....need to push that nationwide and ease up on restrictions

[@Mill72]

Yep, I’ve been using Renewable here in Norcal since I purchased my truck in ‘22. Zero issues with emissions and fuel mileage is similar to same as regular diesel#2. Crazy high cetane and burns clean.

[@powerstrokemaintenance]

Hopefully they spread that stuff around it sounds awesome. The US diesel fuel quality in general seems to be terrible. Crazy that California seems to have figured it out first haha

[@Mill72]

@ You would think. California is hard anti-diesel out here, but they know diesel vehicles are here for the unforseen future.

[@powerstrokemaintenance]

Makes sense!

[@claudenewman3440]

Yes but California diesel is now 95-100% biodiesel. So far I haven’t had any problems yet. But I don’t drive my truck that much. When I drive it is to pull my toy hauler or freeway driving. Hopefully I won’t have problems. I do run Archoil and change engine oil every 5k miles.