The Problem with iPhone MagSafe...

[@snazzy]

Hi everyone, it’s Quinn! I got married this past week and am enjoying a honeymoon with my beautiful new bride. Please enjoy this video about MagSafe and get ready for the best M1 Mac coverage you could dream of coming in the next few days upon my return. Stay snazzy!

[@sameer_dhingra]

Congratulations buddy! 🎉🥳

[@alliejr]

CONGRATULATIONS 🎉

[@rossgoosen7269]

CONGRATS QUINN!

[@meaviad]

Congratulations!!!

[@lilobungus1572]

Congrats man

[@acehobojoe]

Quinn: Based on magnet people I've talked to. Magnet People: Our time has come!

[@melmelcorvette]

Made my morning

[@asdf51501]

I'm waiting for the Insane Clown Posse to chime in on this. They're magnet people.

[@giovannibeltran8348]

I feel like they are slipping the tip in on portless. This is a bridge implementation to get the userbase used to the concept.

[@excessorizeme]

This video has The Magic School Bus science lesson vibes. I dig it.

[@bharanisekaran]

Oooh Yesss Totally Agree.

[@tituscrawley7694]

I looooove u

[@nutsbeta1325]

lol

[@thecelestialstarship]

The MagSafe School Bus

[@OnionGun]

lol

[@groundzero_-lm4md]

Wireless charging is less efficient then wired charging. So a power pack would result is lost energy that could be used. There is no better, more reliable method of electrical connection then a physical one. Wireless charging consumes 47% more power then a wire, not to mention the cost. Also a port allows you to back up your phone even if the screen is not functional.

[@ProblemanMx]

THAN*. Make yourself a favor and learn your own language.

[@CJT3X]

@@ProblemanMx how do you know what their “own” language is?

[@marcosmanuelvillarreal8823]

@@ProblemanMx How do you know that it is his own language? Don't be elitist, there are lot's of people learning english who happen to be in the internet and it is nice to help them to know better, but you don't have to be mean, also, it was just a little mistake

[@CURTlS]

Maybe they could use an enclosed port, accessible only to technicians, to access the data in a wired way (like on the Apple Watch). But that would be classic Apple creating a solution to a problem that didn’t even exist in the first place.

[@PhantasmXYZ]

@@ProblemanMx if you're going to criticize someone so harshly for typos, also make sure you don't have more typos yourself

[@natewixom7817]

he’s honeymooning and we’re still getting quality content? favorite channel

[@brendancorey7831]

69th like. But agree

[@alchemistTi]

Didn’t know I was so unique for frequently transferring files to my Windows laptop from my iPhone via the USB-C to Lightening cable that came in the box. I connect it all the time.

[@AC8X]

I sync with my computer all the time!

[@vanderslagmulders]

You’re not. Just old school cable to copy the jpegs right over. It’s the best!

[@119Agent]

I do this every day even though I have WiFi sync and iCloud backup.

[@LasseRafnDk]

I think he was referring mostly to the Mac crowd tbh, where we use Airdrop

[@erikreider]

But wait, Apples bragging about their energy-efficient products and their green choices while pushing wireless charging which is less efficient than wired charging. That's shitty

[@Hiddeny.2044]

100%

[@nishantdesai3705]

couldn't phrased it better

[@hagindor]

In the life cycle of a phone the energy used to power it is small (

[@erikreider]

@@hagindor but why would Apple limit and discourage people from repairing phones and "force" people to buy new then? It's just marketing

[@hagindor]

@@erikreider That is indeed stupid and I hope right-to-repair will be successful. I did not say Apple cares about the environment (as much as they say). However, just because Apple has bad practices we should not discourage the good ones (even if they should happen for the wrong reason).

[@GabrieleBonetti]

if you can't use it in bed while charging it would loose 80% of how I use a phone.

[@nishantdesai3705]

Then they should not try to invent a problem, just use plain old wired charging, wireless charging is highly inefficient on top of that, so if apple was really worried about env. then a simple move of integrating USBC would solve all problems it would cause less ewaste, it would use more efficient way of charging it, it would not slip way when it is being charged, etc. Not to mention that their design of wireless charger is not modular meaning if you break the cable instead of just buying a new cable if you had wired charging brick you will have to purchase an entire new wireless charger

[@josephboysuk686]

I have used it in bed for the last couple of days I’ve been using my phone at night. Holds fine and works perfectly.

[@W42PZ]

*lose

[@harbourwyldeartdesign4287]

Lose (as in to be deprived of, or cease to retain the ability to) or Loose (as in detachable or easy to *lose* hold of)? I don't think MagSafe is the real issue here... haha. Assuming you (like most humans) sleep 7-8 hours each day..... if your actual Screen Time is anything over 3.5 hours per day........ might be time to pick up a hobby of some sort.

[@resneptacle]

@@harbourwyldeartdesign4287 Or, think about this, a hobby involves screen time! Crazy, I know, but not an unheard of concept in the 21 century

[@BankMoviegoer]

Anyone else likes Quinn's Apple coverage the most? I like that he's willing to go super in-depth on some of the most unrelated yet somehow important details on Apple's products and practices.

[@pratikpramanik7782]

Yes... everyone else just drinks the kool-aid. Dave Lee is pretty good too!

[@ashleycharman]

One of the most honest and truthful YT Creators around.

[@DanLMH]

Meanwhile at Jon & Marques' channels...

[@aloja341]

That's why Ím waiting his m1 silicons macs coverage

[@sarthak.shrivastava]

Yeah I used to like Jon but now he's basically make ijustine.

[@w.umbology]

“We don’t use lightning for data at all anymore” Who’s this “we” you speak of?

[@azophi]

The average iPhone user (I don't use iphone but I also rarely use my cable for data now. I did at one point so I could get a lot of my files from my pc but ahhhh yeah not since then )

[@abdulaziz-kt5ih]

@@azophi I'm on an android and use a cable to tranfer data occasionally

[@antniomanso]

the “we” who have money to pay for iCloud, i don’t have that money, so i “still” use lightning for transferring some stuff from my mac, like music or stuff like that

[@carlosleal903]

I just use air drop to transfer to my Mac or use iCloud cause it works. I’ve only used the wire to transfer for my old android devices

[@myoriginalname]

Yeah that sounded weird seeing how the latest iPad (8th gen) is still on lightning.

[@74862]

Getting rid of the port makes it so I can’t use CarPlay anymore. Most cars, mine included, don’t have wireless CarPlay

[@guillermobalderas3749]

there are adpators you can buy to make the carplay in your car function wirelessly

[@DanCojocaru2000]

Not only that, but there are people that still use iTunes to update their iPhone. And also, DFU mode, for when the iPhone update fails and you need to reset your iPhone using iTunes.

[@Andy4530000]

@@DanCojocaru2000 i can see Apple solving the issues again wirelessly, sync thru wifi and DFU thru wifi or they can add hidden pins accessible only with a proprietary official service tool...

[@bryanlee6065]

Worry not, Apple will sell you a solution for $79 :)

[@brandon_nope]

@@guillermobalderas3749 Nope there's none that exist right now

[@satoapendragon1257]

Watching this on my phone while it’s plugged in charging on 2m cable. Two birds one stone. Not gonna like the portless future.

[@caade_1967]

just can't wait until wireless chargers work while you are just holding your phone

[@MrLuigge]

Well one could just do a magsafe with 2m cable and would be almost the same, just a little slower and less convenient I guess to use...

[@MrLuigge]

Or at least one where the cable is separate and you can buy only the cable later on... Altough then it would be like a separate charging port.

[@resneptacle]

@@caade_1967 That won't ever happen if you mean without having the charger right besides your phone

[@Dustin.Ferreira]

Wireless charing is more safe for battery health because when it reaches 100% it goes into a slow mode where as a charging cord continues to charge and ruins the battery.

[@kyliandc9276]

This magsafe is quite cool but i see a huge problem knowing Apple cables: non detachable wire. You will need to replace the hole Magsafe every year instead of replacing just the cable

[@liesdamnlies3372]

Why let people repair a part when you can just make them buy a new one? That's the Apple ethos.

[@carlangelo653]

It's apple. That's what they do. Even their devices are made to be replaced not repaired.

[@ag4eng]

Hope the licensing formula under MFi will allow third parties to make a MagSafe disc that can connect to a USB-C or Lightning cable.

[@Ben.N]

Think of the environment brah

[@Riko_KP]

I don't think this should wear out that quickly as it doesn't go through the exact same paces a traditional USB or Lightning cable does. You don't really move it around that much nor do you yank it or tear it around or make creases in the cable that much. I also have never replaced a single Lightning cable with my old iPhone 6S Plus, I don't really even get how people treat their cables when they have to replace them every year.

[@None17555]

Did this guy just say the old magsafe was a "reversible alternative to barrel connections?" Them barrels were reversible, my dude.

[@pineappleroad]

I’m pretty certain the barrel plug is MORE reversible than the old MagSafe

[@screamtoasigh9984]

@@pineappleroad wait what?I have the original magsafe. How it can it be more reversible?

[@pineappleroad]

@@screamtoasigh9984 the barrel plug goes in at an infinate number of angles with some chargers the cable may end up bent a little, but when that does happen you wont have to fight the bend in the cable whenever you go to plug it in

[@retrogamer2503]

Them barrels were better at being reversible because they could be inserted any way, you didn't have to keep them upright or straight or anything....

[@retrogamer2503]

I think the iMac's magsafe is better, but the problem is that it's magnets are too strong, again, and the cord pulls the mac with it.

[@TheAnoniemo]

"More reversible than the original barrel style connector" Are we thinking about the same, any orientation goes because it's a circle, barrel plug?

[@Jackofafewtrades]

I had the same thought. A bit of a blind one there...

[@adversHandle]

ah you see you could not reverse the barrel design at all so wasn't reversible magsafe is reversible, you also need more engineering to prevent creating a wrong way to plug it in.

[@andrive]

Lmao

[@manakmishra]

Barrel had an external shape of a cylinder, but the insides were not reversible, it was really difficult to place the charger due to that oversight

[@quirble]

@@manakmishra that’s not necessarily true. my iBook G3’s yo-yo power adapter can spin 360° plugged in and it doesn’t hurt anything internally. they used that barrel plug design since 1996 with the powerbook 1400. the barrel was always able to spin across all these models, and that’s a 10 year difference between PB1400 and the first macbook. however in terms of durability, the magsafe wins 100 times over. the yoyos are so easy to break at the stem right before the barrel.

[@vik.guerra817]

Remove lightning entry to gain more space, and add pounds of magnets... Apple: Promotion to intern, NOW

[@alecwhatshisname5170]

"Pounds of magnets" Iphone 12 pro max weight: .5 "lbs"

[@resneptacle]

@@alecwhatshisname5170 Ever heard of a hyperbole?

[@duffman7674]

"I bet you haven't plugged in your iPhone to your computer in years" *Laughs in iOS developer* On a more serious note: While Xcode already supports WiFi debugging, it is less stable and slower than Lightning. Also, I am sometimes using my iPhone as a microphone input through Audio MIDI Setup, which requires a wired connection (as of right now). So when Apple removes the Lightning port, they better have a solution for both of these things.

[@glasser2819]

yep, a new "AI Cloud microphone" service with transcripts, recordings, broadcasting and sharing... to replace the old 1¢ mic. 🤗

[@thetechrealist]

Man, I can't imagine being the poor developer that makes apps on IOS with next Gen iphones..

[@duffman7674]

@@thetechrealist I mean you can work with the iOS simulator, which pretty much does most of the things that the real iPhone can do. But it's already a pain right now because installs often fail for no reason.

[@ddnava96]

And CarPlay. My car only supports CarPlay through USB

[@cjbht19minaret]

Not to mention backing up my device to my computer. I would rather do that than pay for icloud storage. Or, what about when you need to restore the phone using a computer? What stops apple from saying they can't restore the phone so you need a new one?

[@Raaaphael]

On my Android phone I use the charging port frequently to transfer data. So I hope it stays as a concept for now. Because everyone is going to follow that. Most of the wireless solution do not work as good as the cable, when it comes to data transfer.

[@fetchstixRHD]

On all of my phones I often use the port for data transfer (namely removing/copying photos and other data from my phones to have a backup stored locally, and I'm not a fan of cloud storage for multiple reasons). Especially on Android I love the ease that I can transfer both to and from phones virtually any file you want to, so I hope manufacturers don't follow suit and remove the USB-C ports (and that's before discussing the inefficiencies of wirelessly charging...)

[@javiej]

Magsafe is a solution for a problem that didn't exist. And its function is to create more problems so they can sell solutions for those.

[@carlitoxb110]

Just like 99% of products on the market, believe me all you need in this life is food and shelter the other things you own are solutions to problems you don’t really have

[@HJ-qt6zs]

Absolutely Right!

[@isaiasmedina8447]

@Issa Baddie true

[@EdiUtomoPutra]

Without port? 😅 i just imagine traveling and bringing powerbank + magsafe, a cable+heavy circle.

[@SatansLtlBaby]

wireless charging is wasteful from an energy perspective. give me a port any day

[@weissachpassion]

Yeah and no. Of purse wireless charging has worse efficiency, but with the magnets the 2 coils are perfectly aligned which means that the effiency is much higher then normal and I would guess that there is not a big difference to normal charging. Also many people use wireless charging nevertheless so making this alignment by magnets, which increases the effluence a lot, will actually save energy

[@cringefairy2687]

Not to mention the additional energy required to make the coils inside the phone and the wireless charging pad...

[@claudiuteslevici6500]

@@weissachpassion the fact that you need a 20W charger to deliver 15W of wireless charging tells you how efficient magsafe is... magnets and all.

[@kas4751]

I guess we'll also have to give you an ethernet port on your phone for your internet. I on the other hand, prefer anything wireless (most of the time), except when it comes to my speakers. The subwoofer is fine to be wireless. Charging wirelessly is fine too and you don't need it to be super fast.

[@rick_terscale1111]

it can also affect the longevity/capacity of your battery. I stopped using Qi chargers for that very reason.

[@lukasgehrer680]

Quinn is IMO the best tech KZbinr on the planet. Period. His videos go in-depth with topics that others just cover with the apple marketing vocabulary. He is more of a journalist than I KZbinr. Glad I follow him for more than 5 years now.

[@Stuntman707]

When the iPhone 15 comes out, many people will still be holding onto the iPhone 12 with pride being the last iPhone with a port.

[@JoseFloresEC]

That's a reason I switched this year (from Note 9) instead of wating for iphone 13 with promotion display lol

[@JoseFloresEC]

@Erwyn Puynen For about a year, the iPhone 13 coming out 2021 has been rumored to not have a lightning port nor even a usb-c port and I see that as some downgrade. Not the main reason but this is a reason I got the iPhone 12.

[@ottojagenstedt9740]

No, when the iphone 14 comes out in two years apple users will want to laugh at how stupid the entire magsafe accessory gimmick is when it's gone. But they won't. They'll hold it in, and keep their heads high. God damned heroes.. I'm already proud of you guys.

[@noahshighlightreel]

@@ottojagenstedt9740 these are just rumors

[@jtron7127]

@@JoseFloresEC Lol I switched from a Note 9 too. I had the exynos processor on my note and wanted a phone that was much faster and more optimised. I also love the Face ID and much prefer it to the Iris scanner on the note.

[@Dragon1291]

"Reversible Alternative to the Barrel Plug" - Uh... I would say Barrel Plugs have more than just 180 Degree Symmetry.... since they're a circle...

[@Danny-wv8ec]

Did he just chuck the Z-Flip?

[@Ghost-hs6qq]

Lol yes 😂😂😂😂😂 I ma dead from laughter.

[@ashleycharman]

Quinn flipped it.

[@AdoreYouInAshXI]

He's a tech youtuber... he probably has 3 or 4 more in a drawer somewhere.

[@santiagomedranotorres]

So the "safe" in Magsafe stands for "loose" on Apple computers but "very strong" on their phones

[@agenericaccount3935]

I feel like they are slipping the tip in on portless. This is a bridge implementation to get the userbase used to the concept.

[@AlricoAmona98]

No this is actually happening. We know through leaks apple plan ob releasing a phone with no ports either next year or next 2 years

[@liesdamnlies3372]

@@AlricoAmona98 As someone into cybersec, I can tell you I really just _love_ this idea. All those phones _only_ syncing their data over wireless connections? Yes please! It's just _sooooo_ amazing! Woo!

[@chrismannik]

@@liesdamnlies3372 I can see your sarcasm through the screen! :D But yeah, I don't get the portless phone idea at all. So many accessories rely on the port and I don't see a way to replace it. Mics, audio out, usb adapters, sd card readers, drone remotes, thermal cameras and so on. Apple wants you to buy an Android if you use any of these accessories with your smart phone? Really?

[@liesdamnlies3372]

@@chrismannik No, they want you to buy their own special products or approved accessories, which will let them roll in more money. Apple loyalists will do it with a smile, and even claim Apple is doing it all for the environment at the same time. Even though it’s obvious they couldn’t give two shits about that.

[@AustinTyWeir]

Time for some legislation against this anti-competitive behavior.

[@wompadillœ]

6:54 Quinn: “I bet you haven’t even plugged in your iPhone to your computer in years, or maybe ever!” Me, watching this video while my iPhone is plugged into my computer: 😬

[@dctraveler7507]

I was skeptical about the MagSafe charger at first too, but now I am in love with it. It is so convenient and one big problem it solved is that when using actual cable charging the phone and you don’t plug in carefully, It scratches the finish of the phone. Let’s face it We’ve all been there, brand shiny new Phone scratched by lightning cable because we missed the port a bit.

[@Dmonday_81]

I really like MagSafe on my iPhone 12, mostly because I can’t wait to see how car manufacturers implement it, car mounts or built in to the dash already. There are a lot of great possibilities with it. Only time will tell though

[@Jackofafewtrades]

A low shore hardness silicone ring would be the ultimate grippy solution for these Magsafe accessories.

[@evilflowx]

the part about improving stickiness with rubber is true. I bought a MagSafe case that is rubberized. The wallet sticks to it better because of it. I previously had a hard plastic case, and the wallet would slide off often because it had less friction than the rubber case. The friction makes all the difference.

[@lucaslac124]

I will be "that guy." I plug my iphone into my computer daily for file and music transfer.

[@1shaggy123]

Me too. Why pay a monthly subscription when I own physical storage?

[@naytegolds]

Hah my max doesn’t even register my phone and my iTunes library is corrupted on my phone so it skips them. But the song work in my Mac. Apple said it’s cause of Apple Music. Stupid that they can’t act as one thing. I wanted my 50 gigs of cds I’ve collected over the years as the backbone for my music, then use Apple Music to be the rest of the body lol

[@realcartoongirl]

you can download directly without a computer on any android lmao something you still cant do on iphone not at least to the music app

[@vidincrisis]

and to charge my phone too lol

[@TylerTMG]

They may remove the charger port and that is why magsafe is being reused

[@RayTheVideoGuy]

With no physical port, that means no more attaching nice microphones for video recording.

[@anb1142]

"If you disliked it, send it to someone you dislike" -Quinn 2020

[@vizender]

Really handy thing I think MagSafe brings is for car handlers. Way more comfortable to just place the phone next to your wheel and not having to clip it or I don’t know what when you go in and out of your car very often

[@neroinaction]

I do actually use lightning for data when I move out all the images on the phone to the PC or add music to the phone. if they do go port-less a good alternative for wired data transfer would be pogo pins like the one on the Moto Z.

[@SebastianHaban]

So much this comment! The Moto Z ALSO solved the problem of "things coming off when applying vertical force" by using the camera bump as an additional anchor point to hold the accessories in place. Motorola was lightyears ahead with this stuff and it's a shame they failed with it...

[@theclonedme]

I used the MagSafe charger on my iPhone 12 Pro and it’s slow and generates a ton of heat. Like, in the morning my phone’s fully charged but still feels warm kinda heat. I don’t think wireless charging can replace wired charging anytime soon because even the most energy efficient setup (ie MagSafe) results in a lot of energy loss through heat etc.

[@carlct]

The MagSafe wallet is amazing. It hadn’t failed me once. Its shear force is meant to be weak for easy removal to take cards out. If it doesn’t suit your, use a normal wallet.

[@mio_e_jag]

i know i'm 5 months late, but i've used the magsafe wallet. it has never fallen off, EVER. I've used the wallet every single day, putting it in the pocket is no problem, unless you literally push the phone with force down your pocket

[@thancooper03]

I’m gonna be pissed if my car play becomes unusable bc apple ditches the ability to plug into the USB port in my car

[@Seawolf.Gaming]

It's gonna happen. It's what Apple fucking does man, just ditch them already so they can't be the ones controlling the global smartphone market with less than a 15% share globally! What Apple does allows other companies to follow which is often to the detriment of the user. Removing the headphone jack created a ripple effect and now it's hard as fuck to find a flagship phone of any brand with one.

[@cinialvespow1054]

@@Seawolf.Gaming Is it ONLY sony now? offering a headphone jack? shame. Weird how there are so many people who seemingly support such a decision for no reason. And will ape on people who want a headphone jack. If apple really believed that the headphone jack is somehow an 'obsolete' port (despite it obviously being highly relevant even today) they wouldn't ship headphone jacks on, oh you know, *every computer they sell*

[@arachnofan73]

Wish my vehicle had wireless car play.

[@PanosPitsi]

@@cinialvespow1054 Sony only offers it because they make wired headphones. Companies only care for their profit

[@cinialvespow1054]

@@PanosPitsi Sony offers it because it's stupid not to include one. Sony also makes wireless headphones. And yet they haven't removed it. Apple makes wired headphones (beats) and yet they removed the Jack, to sell Bluetooth earphones for astronomical prices.

[@chinwongli5623]

Only need a concave circular dent to fix the magnet

[@JoaoRodrigues-iv6dt]

I constantly use lightning to connect the iPhone to my PC for backup, music, home videos and photos.

[@jefferyjones8399]

I miss the old MagSafe power adaptors. I had a 2013 Air until last year when I had to upgrade to a new one. Like, I get USB-C being the standard but the MagSafe was just so handy and secure.

[@sikox209]

“But that’s probably okay right? because an iPhone isn’t a laptop... and if they do fall they’re more likely to be okay than a laptop” *phone proceeds to bend in half* ...

[@hanna9164]

That is a Samsung folding phone though, so it is meant to do that

[@Widur42]

Wireless charging has one big flaw. It shows piss poor charging efficiency compared to a cable charger. Why? Because elctrical current needs to be converted into a magnetic (changing) field in the charger and back into current in the phone. During that conversion, energy is lost - twice. In a cable charger, none of that happens. The current just flows. And this problem is not fixable as it is determined by physics.

[@LW62_Gaming]

I really have to say, I’ve been using the MagSafe wallet since Christmas and it has slipped off a couple times but other than those very rare instances, I haven’t had a problem with it

[@HistoryBluff137]

2 years later, I have to say, I love using MagSafe stuff on my Z Fold 4. A cool ecosystem that's real easy to add to any phone case.

[@Garrettdx1988]

Getting rid of the charging port is going to end jailbreaking forever, and that really bums me out.

[@jacksonv671]

Frictional Force = Normal Force * Coefficient of Friction , The coefficient of friction between a gloss/glass surface and magsafe products is very low therefore you're right, the only way to increase the amount of force needed to shear the two apart is to A) increase the normal force (stronger magnet) or B) use a material with a higher coefficient of friction.

[@AustinTyWeir]

You’re missing the fact that removing a physical port would make it impossible for people to backup their phone to their computer; thus requiring people pay for iCloud storage. That’s super anti-consumer, and I really hope Apple doesn’t get away with it. Also, what about attempting to recover the device if it gets into a bad state and needs to be restored?

[@pineappleroad]

In a way, if the EU legislation becomes law, then I hope the legislation actually forces apple to put a USB C port (or whatever port) on the Iphones

[@raaah]

You keep saying that Max safe is an alternative to chi because it charges at 15 watts but it has been proven that nothing that connects via that mag save system charges anywhere near 15 watts ever eight at the most under some extreme circumstances

[@napoleon2564]

If it’s dark, like right before you go to bed, putting your phone on a wireless charger is a hassle. MagSafe fixes that

[@ottojagenstedt9740]

In what reality were a lightening or usb-c charger a hassle to connect? I'd totally get your point, if we were still living in micro-usb world because of how fragile it is.

[@silverspiritveritas112]

There's also an issue with magsafe wallets, as the magnets will screw up your credit card chips that they want you to put in their mag"safe" wallets. A friend of mine has her credit card screwed up due to the magnets at the back of the phone

[@NASA-Shill]

MagSafe wallet sliding off? Sounds like us cargo shorts bros have been vindicated, and skinny jean bros are in the dust.

[@barzun8]

6:53 me: sitting at my desk while my iPhone is charging from my computer 👁👄👁

[@AvocadoAtrocity]

It's like the Mous wallet (which is the first magnet wallet i can think of). They have a little sticky bit.

[@PluralPaul]

As soon as I heard about MagSafe, I kept telling people it would be another excuse for Apple to market exclusivity before needing to switch to USB-C, and I don't know if I should be happy or dismayed that you proved my assumption to be correct.

[@christiansasse7578]

I really appreciated the references to where you gained your knowledge / opinion: The specs of the lightning connection regarding USB 2.0 and mentioning, that you talked to "Magnet People". Even if the latter is still a bit cryptic, it shows the type of research you do and gives your videos more credibility imho.

[@heyjustj]

Yep, shear force and magnets is a big deal. Had to deal with this on my last 11 Pro Max since the new phone was too heavy for the magnetic mount I had been using and kept falling off my dashboard. Solution: bigger thicker magnets and a bit more grippy case. Also I use my lightning port ALL the time so taking it away would be bad news for me. USB audio interfaces for music production, USB connection for multicamera in OBS, testing AR filters in Snapchat Lens Studio and Instagram Spark AR. Probably 90%+ of people only use it for charging but for the hard core creatives that really use the devices to their full potential there better be some serious innovation to make wireless tech work with no latency. Especially for audio production.

[@heyjustj]

oh and how could I have forgotten DRONES. Taking away a physical port would make any current DJI product pretty much unusable.

[@rmp5s]

When they unveiled this, I was like, "oh cool! Magnets to line the phone up on a wireless charging pad! That's kinda clever!" Then I realized -> I

[@rmp5s]

@Alex Hays ...no it doesn't...

[@AstroBananna]

Im loving magsafe charging because i can position the wire to point in a direction that doesn’t get in the way when im reading or gaming whilst charging. Lightning port on bottom always got in the way.

[@Hiddeny.2044]

The original and second gen Mac mag safe was one of the greatest things Apple ever did.

[@guitarpunkcovers]

What about having a credit card in your pocket/wallet and the new iPhone? Wouldn't the magnet obsolete the card?

[@romilagarwal8868]

This man deserves so many more subscribers than he has!

[@JakeM218]

Would they have to offer a portless iPhone though? Say they ship the iPhone with a Qi charger, OR with no charging cable - they can surely keep the lightning port as an “extra bonus”, and an alternate way of charging. Just like how the Mac Mini and iMac have up to date USB C ports, but still throw in a sprinkling of USB A ports.

[@JakeM218]

I should add, I hope they produce a portless phone. The benefits for water proofing are great, and fluff in the connects are a massive pain!

[@johnnyhellfire6]

The magsafe connectors the start to selling people a box you cant access in anyway shape or form.

[@evster7flick]

This is what will ultimately kill iPhone for me, at least until android manufacturers blindly copy the same idea.

[@BraydenJLee_]

@@evster7flick of course, wireless charging always existing on androids, sooooooo

[@BraydenJLee_]

@@evster7flick just slap a magnetic case, and bam, you get magsafe. Yeah, Samsung has that for more than 5 years

[@johnnyhellfire6]

@@evster7flick apple already killed the iphone. My $100 android phone does everything I need and it takes 2 sim cards lol

[@johnnyhellfire6]

@@BraydenJLee_ I hear those new linux phones are pretty sweet

[@Anton1699]

"I bet you haven't plugged your iPhone into your computer in years" Now, I don't own an iPhone but I used to own an iPod touch, and the hoops Apple made you jump through just to transfer a single MP3 file… I plug my Android phone into my PC quite frequently, just to transfer a movie before a train ride, to update my music collection, to create backups and so on.

[@jonnywishbone4805]

I had to plug my iPad into my Surface to transfer music. On Android I can just use cloud transfer - piece of piss.

[@Anton1699]

@Nicola Sabbadini I did use iTunes, but that's my point. Getting music onto any other media player was way easier, just copy it over. I wouldn't mind the _option_ of using iTunes to manage my music library, but it's Apple's my-way-or-the-highway approach to their UX design that bothered and still bothers me.

[@Anton1699]

@Nicola Sabbadini I take good care of my music library, it's sorted by artist and album. And most media players would sort it for you (assuming you tagged the songs correctly, of course)

[@dhybiak]

Anybody know what iPhone he’s gone with for his personal device?

[@ashleycharman]

I believe the iPhone 12 Pro Max, but he either uses a Fold Z 2 or Z Flip as his other device.

[@MylesKillis]

iPhone Mini

[@Yellow_Flannel]

I still use a backup on my mac to move from iPhone to iPhone. Not only for personal use, but also for my company. I do IT. Part of my responsibilities is to upgrade company devices. Wired transfer allows me not to pay for apple's cloud as well as setup in under 5 minutes.

[@PeterArnold1969]

Thank you, Quinn, for not being afraid to get too technical. The technical section on magnets was really interesting.

[@RN-yo4qm]

I love the magsafe charger, have been using since I got my 12 pro max (1 week ago). It took 12 minutes to charge my phone from 10% to 60% which is faster than any wireless charger at the same price. I haven't even charged my 12 pro max once using the lighting cable.

[@eddyp483]

EU: you can't keep using lightning Apple: Magsafe? :D

[@levygaming3133]

Can we just talk about how monumentally dumb the EU forcing all companies to use the same charger is? I mean first of all, there are bound to be countless Apple users who do have lightning cables but don’t have usb c cables, and would need to buy new cords in this legislation aimed at preventing people from having to buy new cords. Oh the irony. Second, imagine if the EU had decided to enact this legislation ~5 years ago. We’d be stuck with micro-usb phones. Who’s to say that in 5-10 years when the next usb does to usb-c what usb-c did to micro-usb that the EU will accept/recognize any potential improvements and let it happen. I have no trust in politicians being able to understand and act on engineering decisions. Not for nothing either because in Australia you can’t change your rims on your car because of some backwards legislation written no doubt by some politician that had zero understanding of why such a law is ridicules.

[@kerem8029]

@@levygaming3133 ikr

[@cinialvespow1054]

EU: 'use a standard port!' Apple: Oh, so you don't like ports?, Gotcha!

[@alandougherty]

The mous case magnet wallets have a rubbery material on the back, and hold on really well.

[@neekster28]

Apple: "The headphone jack takes too much space" Also Apple: Puts a bunch of magnets in their phone

[@EE09J]

Non-iPhone user here, so maybe some stupid questions, but... Does the constant sliding of the charging dock across the back of the phone scratch the phone? Does the constant tugging on the cord to remove the dock make the cord break fast? What happens if you get the charging dock magnet next to your credit cards... does it de-magnetize them and does it stick to everything that metal? Also, I use my charging port on my Android to connect to the computer all the time for file transfers. Its the most reliable method.

[@Space_Reptile]

wait a darn second.... the MagSafe™ Apple™ Charging Puck© has a non detatchable charger? christ knowing apples cable quality that thing wont survive a year in most households heck most cheap Chi Charge Pucks have a microusb/usbC port so you can use any cable you like, wich is really useful

[@rick_terscale1111]

How safe is magsafe though. None of the reviewers cover it, only drop tests on the iPhone. But what happens if someone trips over the cord.... does it work as well as it does on older Mac Books. Snazzy Labs is the only one that has touched on this so far. Well done!! I don't think a lot of people understand what magsafe is and how its supposed to work, or rather why its called mag"SAFE". Apple shouldnt call it magsafe but magcharger or something similar.

[@wifine1951]

Apple: environment Also Apple : e-waste by removing the port

[@spike62002]

While I haven’t plugged my iPhone into a computer for a while I frequently plug my iPhone into my wired only CarPlay head unit and use a lightning to USB connector to transfer photos from my DSLR camera for editing and uploading to social media, not to mention connecting to outboard audio gear for recording directly to garage band. Can’t honestly see apple ditching the port for wireless only anytime soon.

[@black_yeti]

Guys remember wireless is less efficient than wired but apple is going green. Hmmmmm i think they meant green as in $.

[@TheDubstepmaster13]

I bought this and set it up with Velcro to a car charger so I can take it off and use it at Home, the mag safe case plus the iPhone 12 as shown in the video has a ridiculously strong connection for no reason, but perfect for driving purposes

[@MentalEdge]

The popularity of wireless charging is a disaster. It is inherently less efficient, both in terms of material costs as well as simple energy. Apple and others pushing for it to be become the society-wide norm is environmentally irresponsible in the extreme.

[@odiltm259]

Mate the energy cost of a more inefficient charging puck is minuscule compared to the carbon foot print of building and shipping the phone from china

[@MentalEdge]

@@odiltm259 That's a nice whataboutism you got there. Got an actual counterpoint? Local manufacture has advantages that are also ignored by lots of industries, but even then, the raw material tonnage still has to he transported from somewhere. Whether local vs abroad is more efficient is a coinflip, compared to an inherent difference like wireless vs wired.

[@odiltm259]

@@MentalEdge the point of the wireless charging is convenience. If it becomes inconvenient for people to pay their electric bill they will go back to using normal methods. It’s also an infant technique right now and as such doesn’t have the optimization that standard port charging has. But given time it will develop and become more efficient.

[@MentalEdge]

@@odiltm259 No. It wont. This is physics. Not the "maturity or infancy of the tech". Power is power. Every time you transform it, you lose some of it. There is no such thing as 100% efficient. Any cable, even, loses some of the power it carries to heat, due to resistance. A port is just a way to make an electrical connection. There is no superfluous transformation there. No tech, that can be less or more optimized. Wireless charging works exactly the same way normal charging does. Except the power gets transformed two more times on the way. Once, to magnetic energy, then again, back to electric energy. All wireless does is bridge a gap in space. The actual form of power at both ends is still just electricity, the power just goes magnetic in-between. That will ALWAYS net a lower efficiency compared to just using the electrical power thru directly, without transformation. There is nothing to "optimize" here. It's physics. It's how the universe and energy works. One is better than the other. Period.

[@ThaimachineFilms]

Do you know for what is this small stripe of magnets do? under the magnet CIRLCE 0:21 You show here with your finger. No one can tell me what it is, i think its only for alightning, or for recognized the case ? maybe ?

[@DctrGizmo]

I don’t know what Apple was thinking when they made the wallet attachment. It will always fall out if you put it in your pocket.

[@schenkenberg13]

Well they only thought about how much they can charge the wallet for

[@nightcoreboi1148]

2:27, Did it bend in half

[@Leggir]

Quinn, always the voice of reason in the Apple Ecosystem.

[@benjaminpeternorris]

Great video. I'm not convinced of a portless iPhone, in the same way I wasn't convinced that removing the headphone jack was a good idea. Two important uses (besides charging) for the Lightning connection are Apple Car Play (This only works via a wired USB-C to lightning connection in my brand new VW T6.1 for instance and will not work over bluetooth) and data connections that take audio or video over USB (eg I use a USB to Optical Out S/PDIF via the lightning to USB camera adapter with my iPhone). Bluetooth and wireless charging are not the solution to every wired 'problem'.

[@sepehrr501]

How would app CarPlay work? Like I know there is such thing as wireless CarPlay but I hope they don’t expect me to change a 50k car for em

[@suheefuddin9427]

Theres a kickstarter which lets you convert your car usb to a wireless CarPlay or Android Auto hub. It’ll be like the usb c transition on mac where you had to buy a dongle for everything.

[@sepehrr501]

@@suheefuddin9427 oh so they are basically gonna use airplay! See if it’s something like MacBook that’s somewhat beneficial I’m okay w it. Like rn I got my Mac running on one single cable to a usb monitor and that’s all it need. If the CarPlay is like get in the car drop ur phone on the charger and u good I would actually enjoy that a lot

[@suheefuddin9427]

@@sepehrr501 i believe the car and phone will change to carplay mode when they connect to the bluetooth. All your data will be transferred through that. Airplay requires WiFi.

[@DJAtomic5]

One big problem I also see with having a portless iPhone is what about CarPlay? Most cars only support WIRED CarPlay and going portless is going to remove that feature as well....

[@IlRovina]

Sorry what?! They're not compatible with high power Qi standard? Really, Apple?!

[@icedcoffeecapricorn]

One Plus wireless charger has joined the group.

[@Frank_42]

The Magsafe cords on Macbooks disintegrate after a few years regardless of how well you treat them. The plastic is designed to fall apart so that you will spend over a hundred for a new one or less for a Chinese model that gets suspiciously hot.

[@GoldenSystems]

Me charging phones with 65w: "15w? That's cute..."

[@draconis3186]

@Joseph Dematas False, you can use as many watts as you want provided the voltage is 5V or whichever voltage the battery or device is rated for. The device will only pull as many amps as it’s designed for.

[@RB-xv4si]

@@draconis3186 that’s not true. My iPhone 7 Plus was “designed” to only be charged on the shitty little 5W brick. I charge my 7 Plus on my wife’s 20W brick she got for her iPhone 12 and it charges 3 times faster. If what you said was true, the charging speed wouldn’t increase on a 20W adapter.

[@TheCodeDaemon]

Maybe I am missing something but... Attaching a card holder to the back with powerful magnetics so I can put cards with magnetic strips on the back seems like a good way to erase the cards....

[@eichenherzmo]

wireless debugging with Xcode is so freakin bad right now I seriously can't develop apps without a cable

[@NoahHertelendy]

And once your app gets a bit bigger in size, even deployment takes ages.

[@ThrushCZX]

My worry with the Magsafe charger for iPhone is how long will the cable joint last? We've ALL had multiple lightning cables (and 30 pin before that) that have split and frayed at the connector end, usually just behind the flex sheath. So if the Magsafe charger is hard to remove from the phone by pulling it off at a right angle, how are you most likely to do it? By sliding it off. and how are we most likely to do that? By tugging at the cable - just as we see at 10:50 in the video. So it's all well and good that Apple's 15w charging is only just behind the Lightning charger, but if the cable breaks as often as Lightning cables do, even genuine Apple ones, then thats going to be a very expensive accessory to continue buying. And if you add rubber to all the accessories to increase sheer force, you'll only see the cables on the chargers break more often.

[@jakobbrantlundin5699]

Mag”Safe” should be rebranded to MagRisky.

[@snazzy]

😂

[@DJDekgit]

I have the volta magsafe like magnet cables for my devices. Usbc on fold 2 and micro b on headphones and older stuff. Works pretty well and doesn't wear down port using a normal cable.

[@Mike604]

You missed the point entirely - wired Apple Car Play

[@DerDoJo]

yes, but somehow i believe they will offer a handy USB-A Carplay adapter for your car with wired ACP support

[@sparten17708]

Wireless apple car play is a thing

[@DerDoJo]

@@sparten17708 yes but the car has to support it and normally it cannot be retrofit. i bought my car last year with wired apple carplay support and since it is a small car the manufacturer will very likely not offer a upgraded infotainment system with wireless ACP for the car.

[@Dilz00]

Yes 100%, was about to post the same thing. Some will say that there is wireless car-play but that is only a few manufacturers and is unlikely to be rolled out for existing wired units. (Some manufacturers dont even have car-play yet)

[@danieldimitri6133]

Lg put used to put 4 ferromagnetic pucks around the qi receiver. They didn't advertise this and never made a magnetic dock but some developers found them and i think it was a kickstarter but a 3rd parry car holder with a combo of aligning magnets and micro suction silicone held the phone on the dock. The silicone kept it from sliding and the magnets aligned it and helped prevent the adhesion from creeping away.