Apple's M1 Mac is not what you think...

[@darkshippo]

This fulfills Steve Jobs quote from Alan Kay - "People who are really serious about sofware should make their own hardware". 2007

[@inwerp]

This is genuinely wrong. Market is whole lot bigger than few percent comsumer devices.99.99% devices you daily use or contact(from dishwasher to bluetooth headphones to garage door) are embedded ICs designed to be programmed and implemented in consumer devices. The problem is that apple highly benefits with things it literally trying to kill. M1 is impossible without ARM architecture. M1 might be a best implementation of ARM architecture, but it will never be comparable to its source itself. Unlike Intel with their amd64 implementation, for example.

[@GirAiDWinters]

See you in every m1 video

[@Teluric2]

@@inwerp M1 speed is because the neural engine not the ARM cores, only A64FX is fast running only arm cores. M1 Need hardware aceleration.

[@inwerp]

@@theoneonly5368 Steve Jobs knew shit about CPU architcture and never designed a single circuit, never cared and never needed to care. Thats not the point, he was great in other things. The point is that ARM is whole lot bigger than Apple, Qualcomm, Microsoft or any other company who uses this architecture. Using qoutes by famous people does not really mean that you or any other person understands more and thus agrees because of knowledge and experience. If you rotate the qoute and look at reality, every hardware manufacturer who tried to go into OS market sucked badly on mass-market. IBM, HP, Motorola, Nokia, NeXT(lmao), Atari and many many others proved this qoute sounds good but it is not even closely accurate, it is great motto but nothing more.

[@chidorirasenganz]

@@inwerp it says if you are serious about software, make hardware, not the other way around lol

[@DemiRonin]

“NooOo. 1.2x, because that’s math”. Lol. Love how you found that mistake in your edit and turned it into a joke. Seriously your videos get better and funnier all the time!

[@loganrussell48]

I mean, technically it does improve by 0.2x, but it's performance is 1.2x that of the previous generation. 1(current gen) + x(improvement over current gen) = 1 + 0.2 = 1.2 times the performance. Improving by 1.2x would mean, you take the current gen, and add 1.2 to it. If I run a race, and then the next lap I run it 20% faster, I only improved by 0.2 (20%), but my speed was 1.2 times that of the first lap. It's all about the relationship. One is how much extra on top of the previous generation, as a percentage, and the other is how it compares proportionally to the previous generation.

[@Alex-gb4vn]

@@loganrussell48 exactly my thoughts

[@mirabilis]

@fiv3 300% ?

[@mirabilis]

@@loganrussell48 I think 20% increase in perfomance sound much less ambiguous.

[@mirabilis]

...I mean, if i say something is 100 times heavier/faster/stronger, I don't mean 101 times the weight/speed/strength!

[@benjaminweslake4174]

Of all the M1 roundups I’ve watch thus far this was the best. Great detail and explained in easy to understand language. Excellent video!

[@snazzy]

Thanks so much!!

[@isaaclarson]

There are two things holding me back: 1. I'm broke. 2. My wife told me I couldn't buy a MBP until I lost 65lbs. Due to unforeseen circumstances, I only have 75lbs to go!

[@stkl23]

See the bright side of this: by the time you've lost those 85lbs, reviews, benchmarks and maybe even the M1X will already be available.

[@isaaclarson]

@@stkl23 lol I'm hoping it won't go up before going back down. It seems like the first go at ARM Macs won't be "great" but I guess we'll see next week.

[@nownow1681]

What an absolute simp

[@p3chv0gel22]

There are 2 things for me holding me Back: I'm broke I don't like macOS

[@voodoomath]

Might be easier to lose the wife :).

[@stephenstetler3324]

I love how you start this video by taking a victory lap.

[@breathingdubies2670]

This bloke massively deserves it though😂☝🏻

[@jarrodsteve2769]

What is holding me back is remembering the transition from Motorola to Intel chips and Mac gaming with Steam.

[@YachtReport]

Haven’t bought a new Mac since 2015. Don’t like the missing SD card reader, removal of the MagSafe (WTF?) and loss of USB ports (only USB-C). And I hated that keyboard although they back tracked on that.

[@kenshiromilesvt.7037]

“No one ever watches that” That’s where you’re wrong

[@TheDaveJaVu]

That’s where you’re right

Spot on!

[@makermeeter7562]

Went to watch that after this comment :D

[@theyeshhh]

Time tag please

[@zauriminer2954]

@@theyeshhh Look at the ending

[@Eutrofication]

Honestly, I think you are the only channel I've seen that reacted to this that has dove into the fine print and made some reasonable assumptions about Apple's weird marketing graphs. I would really like you guys to know it was extremely helpful!

[@snazzy]

Thanks, Daniel!

[@jcstalesoftrails9249]

Originally I was thinking of switching to Microsoft Windows, but I ordered a Mac Mini the day of the apple event. I now have it in my hands and am in the process of setting it up.

[@lloydalexporter6770]

Gonna wait for the 16” MacBook Pro, plus that’ll give some more time to iron out any issues in case there are any.

[@TheMoneyResolution]

This is where I'm at too! Spot on. Hope it has 4 thunderbolt ports

[@DiegoMartinez-yq9tg]

I’m thinking about buying the current version of MBP 16. Do you think is a good idea?

[@hydenp]

@@DiegoMartinez-yq9tg I would definitely wait.

[@Robert-dt3is]

@@DiegoMartinez-yq9tg I honestly am thinking of buying the new M1 13”. Then when the new chip 16” is released, sell the 13 then get the 16. Because who knows when the 16 will come out, what if it comes out late 2021? But at the same time i’m waiting to see performance reviews over the next week of the 13 before making a decision.

[@Tackleqb]

@@Robert-dt3is bingo! This is what I did. I just bought the juiced up 13” MBP. Apple seems pretty confident with this new line so I’m all in. If it doesn’t work out I’ll just sell it. No problem.

[@thejasontlewis]

I ordered the MacBook pro baseline 512gb/ 8gb ram model to see how close the base model can come to these claims. I also ordered a 16gb/1tb mac mini to hopefully used as a replacement for my 2019 i9 16gb MacBook pro 15. Excited to see what the outcome is.

[@DDL-n2u]

I’m in the same boat here. I wish I knew what the benchmarks actually look like. I have a 2019 i9 16” 16GB 1TB but the fact that I could replace it with a Mac Mini for $679 for potentially the same performance and save $1,300 is tempting.

[@GSP-76]

Should have waited for third party reviews...if your a casual home user, you won't be disappointed...but if you use your Mac for heavy workloads such as video editing, etc. you will be disappointed. The M1 is not much different than the A14 in the iPhone. It's silly to think that will out perform a x86 CPU. Plus there's a layer of emulation that takes place too. ARM can't run x86 apps natively.

[@leonmuller8475]

@@GSP-76 But the A14 does outperform a lot of x86 CPUs?

[@aircommandslipperz]

@@GSP-76 you are wrong..M1 is not similar to A14 although it is based on A14..it is more like A14X which has more performance and gpu cores. even the previous A12X and A12Z perform much better than midrange x86 cpu..check your facts

[@DDL-n2u]

@@GSP-76 Maybe, maybe not. I'm hearing for Office for example would simply need a binary that is context aware if you talk to IOS devs.

[@RouvenKasten]

Right after the presentation I ordered a MacBook Pro 13" with M1 to replace my one from 2018. For me the up to 20h battery life, the price and the performance were also decisive. Get it on Monday and I am very excited.

[@unmaypawar]

Definitely want to buy but just waiting for hands on reviews so to get a clear idea of these machines

[@tonyarcos4666]

same bro

[@MrVictorio0586]

same

[@archangel4316]

I think the boat you're in is filling up to capacity! LOL

[@unmaypawar]

@@archangel4316 and that’s nice 😊 isn’t it?

[@rivengle]

Good thing we get the first impressions in less than a week.

[@LarrysNetTube]

I love all of Apple stuff but I have to ask a question here. If they are so freaking smart, why is voice dictation still STILL Such a busted-ass technology, and still busted-ass in Big Sur? Everything that was broken in Catalina, is still broken in Big Sur. It's like they didn't even give it two minutes of time to fix. As someone who is disabled with neuropathy in my hands this is a big problem for me. Voice dictation worked great until the release of Catalina. It has been borderline useless every since. I had to make 16 corrections in that paragraph above. This really pisses me off because everything else is going so well right now.

[@shivam-cc5ts]

That sucks to hear. I guess theres no real reason other than there's so little people who genuinely need that feature, like yourself, that they cannot be bothered, or don't even realise it. Hopefully they fix it soon, I know how important it can be to some people. But sadly I doubt they'd put resources into it :((

[@qwertykeyboard5901]

Kinda like minecraft bedrock. Big ass development team yet so many bugs, wtf guys?

[@jforbush]

dictation...is it ever!

[@LarrysNetTube]

@@mrnik.0 Oh, yeah. I think millions of people have given that feedback to customer support. The complaints about voice dictation in Catalina are all over the place

[@LarrysNetTube]

@@shivam-cc5ts The Really sad part is it wasn't broken in Mojave! It wasn't broken until they screwed with it and added voice control in Catalina. Dictation has never been the same since.

[@FrankValchiria]

i stopped using mac after my last quad mac cpu g5 but now with this m1, am exited, i saw a benchmark (*if official) a macbook air is as good as my 2700x ryzen? wow can't wait to see some testing.

[@IAmCjcj11]

There will obviously be things that a x86 cpu will outperform a 64 bit ram chip. This iteration might be slightly painful but it honestly doesn’t seem too bad. However the the more exciting part about this is this initial push from Apple is what was needed. Because now as history will repeat itself, Apple makes that first move and then everyone else starts to follow. This will be very interesting how it will affect the desktop market in the long run. You mainly just have Intel and AMD (not including IBM) and if the mainstream pushes towards ARM for desktops they are going to need to adapt. On top of that, it brings other companies into the realm of processors for both desktops and laptops. Microsoft has been very very slow and uneventful with their attempts, the surface RT was an actual dumpster fire and you couldn’t run anything on it. And just until now I had no idea Microsoft even released another arm based surface. They definitely can’t get any traction in that market yet. Especially considering the main pro at this point to windows is to have the most app compatibility. Where they couldn’t provide any type of solution to run normal windows apps.

[@user-ls4ng7fc7o]

@@IAmCjcj11 Qualcomm or Google should build an OS that will replace Windows, but as user familiar as windows. The OS market has been primarily not open for new players until now. This is the perfect time for a company to build a highly optimized open OS like Windows, and then sell it to manufacturers, make those partners, jumpstart the developers to build (if apple can port their intel apps to ARM, someone can find a way for developers to easily edit some codes from windows to the new OS too), and we won't be as reliant on apple no more.

[@PauloSilva111]

@@user-ls4ng7fc7o there are rumours that windoze-11 will be a gnu/linux distribution - a huge progress for micosoft, but will be clearly the crappiest gnu/linux around for sure...

[@slipoch6635]

@@user-ls4ng7fc7o Google tried, it was terrible.

[@slipoch6635]

@@IAmCjcj11 x86 chips are ALL 64bit since the late 90's early 2000's except for the occasional specialist one. How will history repeat itself? Apple was late to drop RISC cpus (after even Alpha went under), LG had their touchscreen smartphone phone out 6 months prior to the iPhone, the iPod was largely bought off others (name, design, hardware, and software). I suppose having an 'open' store where people could submit their apps was new, but wasn't exactly open. Surface RT was terrible, it was an unmitigated disaster because they were trying to emulate the closed ecosystem of Apple and didn't spend enough time making sure it had applications. Big Sur will hopefully actually do what they were saying and allow WebP images and the other web standardised formats everyone else accepts.

[@Ochnoe123]

I think it is great that the M1 chip has RGB😂

[@xalataf3365]

They’re really wanting to make the Mac seem like a gaming machine

[@cleanrunyt]

I think the wisest thing to do now is just wait for the reviews and benchmarks.

[@JohnZahorian]

ordered an m1 mac mini w/ 16gb ram this morning for video editing. have been using a late 2013 macbook pro w/ 8gb ram and it has done surprisingly well with 4k sony a7s2 footage but the new a7s3 codecs have not been happening. was planning on a pc build to run davinci resolve until i came to realize how weird the supply/demand is for pc parts right now (especially a capable gpu...)

[@Ghost-hs6qq]

Is that Linus tech tips merchandise???

[@theleftperson]

yeah

[@themardybum08]

Pure cuckery.

[@anb1142]

at ?

[@michdo23]

@@anb1142 His JACKET homie

[@emiel255]

Where would one be able to get such a fantastic hoodie?

[@baltmatrix]

I'm holding off on buying any of these machines until I see some reviews. I'd love to be able to replace my giant pc for video editing and replace it with a mac-mini, but we shall see. Oh and also my company is holding off on buying any new macs right now because so much of our internal applications have said they won't work with Big Sur for at least 60 days after release.

[@CharlieMikeNS]

Lol, good luck with that fam. x86 support will be dodgy to say the least.

[@snazzy]

Daniel, I don’t know that you were around for the PowerPC to Intel transition, but the first Rosetta was almost bulletproof and Apple’s claiming Rosetta 2 is even better. I expect very few problems.

[@CharlieMikeNS]

@@snazzy I've no doubt that Apple's in-house applications will perform flawlessly. Programs built from the ground up for x86 that aren't under Apple will almost certainly be a different story. It's extremely difficult to do. Microsoft couldn't even do it to an acceptable level.

[@mayhemic]

Your company shouldnt be switching to apple's brand new architecture for at least two years. Professionals should not be Apple's beta testers, stick with hardware that you know for sure wont lose you money.

[@themadgamer9831]

@@CharlieMikeNS he literally just said Rosetta was bulletproof so Rosetta 2 has to be better. Much better. Microsoft aren’t apple, they always fail. Apple doesn’t release something unless it works. They can’t risk it

[@wolfie8012]

0:06 “I subbed just to unsub” Man, the Internet 😂😂😂

[@mryup6100]

Funny how they all comment insults...

[@plentyofpaper]

I would interpret: "0.2 times improvement" to mean 20% better. "1.2 times improvement" to mean 120% better. "2.5 to 5 times as fast" would bean 150% to 400% better. "0.2 times as fast" to mean 80% slower. "1.2 times as fast" to mean 20% faster. The term "improvement" to me means we are using a 1.0, or 100% as the baseline, and the "modifier" number given is implied to be added to that 1.0 baseline. The alternative would be to interpret a 0.2 times improvement to be an 80% downgrade, in which case "improvement" is being used incorrectly. In any case, I think it's wise to use "x% improvement" for values of x between 1% and 100%. And "x times as much/faster" for values of double or higher.

[@danny_the_K]

Very good explanation except for one glaring error. 2.5x is not 150%, it’s 250%. Otherwise, you would have to change the 400% down to 300%. I personally believe that we should remove the initial on par 100% of the prior system and finish the conversion to a percentage number. Finish the math and let the reader stay on point with the article being read or listened to.

[@plentyofpaper]

​@@danny_the_K Thank you for the catch. I used unintended wording, and in fact, misunderstood the statement in the video. I'll edit the original post. I meant "2.5 to 5 times as fast" would be a 150%-400% improvement. Which is what I thought the video was in effect saying. The exact wording of the video was however, "All of these machines are increasing in performance anywhere between 2.5 to 5 times" which should be interpreted as 250% to 500%. Although given the confusing nature of mixing "times" and "improving by" combined with the context of using relatively large numbers leaves me unsure whether the intent was actually 2.5 times base, or 2.5 times more than base (3.5 times base.) It's likely to be kind of moot, as this is probably Apple cherry-picking the best numbers they can possibly find.

[@irvin295]

How are you going to outperform 100% of something? Anything above 100% is imaginary.

[@michlsgamer]

doctor smarty pants

[@serbobvegana8327]

My dude wearing linus tech tips merch 😂😂

[@DaxRipley]

LTT Store dot com!

[@mayankraj481]

Finally someone noticed 😀

[@JaydevRaol]

😅

[@Narxes081206]

🤣

[@alexhovden]

Hello. I've ordered the Mac Mini, with 16GB unified memory, and 1TB SSD hard drive. Currently using a mid-2012 MacBook Pro, which is getting a little slow. I'm planning to hook it up to two (identical) Dell monitors. Will post a review next month when I've had a chance to use it properly...

[@pixlplague]

Apple silicon will probably be pretty amazing, and I can’t wait to see how they drive. But I’m still weary of how it will impact app makers and (more importantly) that we will lose 14 years of PC/Mac interoperability. This was a fact of life for a long time, like when I was in college: no taking that floppy or CD from a PC to a Mac! But nowadays now one would imagine you can’t just go back and forth from Mac to PC. It may very well return to this, and the Apple vs. PC choice may become much more loaded than it’s been in the past years... I’m also worried that the universal apps between iOS and Mac won’t be that great, in that the quality and usability of apps will go down. iOS apps are pretty cool, but if we start having nothing but universal apps, I doubt these will be to the level of Mac apps, rather just taking iOS “simpler” apps and making them the new Mac standard. Time may prove me wrong, but I fear a future of candy coated, non-pro apps. And I’m not even mentioning right to repair. That’s just a fact of the Apple life, and these are basically disposable computers now.

[@billB101]

I'm wary of the Apple tax once they have you fully locked in + it feels like they want you to buy new every three or four years. Not exactly environmentally friendly to be honest. I already have a 2018 MBP that now has a failing battery and keyboard that could be a very expensive doorstop in a year or so. As a mac user for 20+ years now I've already switched to a studio PC instead of the Mac Pro route for 3D work, maybe it's time to switch the laptop too. Let's see how this plays out.

[@pixlplague]

@@billB101 I'd echo pretty much all of that. That's 100% Apple's strategy: vertical integration. It's already succeeded in mobile devices, why not computers?! Once you've invested all this money and effort in it, you can still get away from it but at what cost? And I come from a good position with Apple: I have never had a machine fail on me, and even my 10 year old MPBs run as smooth as the first day. But I know for a fact I'm the exception. Now I get mild anxiety about my next computer because I'm thinking it may have to be a pc lol

[@SlyEcho]

Computer interoperability is better than ever because now we have open standards and cross-platform build tools, etc. The processor architecture that is running your computer may in the future not matter at all when most stuff is running on interpreted languages like JavaScript or compiled just in time, etc.

[@pixlplague]

@@SlyEcho it's not 1999 anymore that's for sure, and it's my hope this holds true. But... Apple isn't keen on playing well with others and if they can force you into the ecosystem they will. I realize the architecture won't matter all that much for files, but we already have sub-par file system cross compatibility (re: USB and SD) and on a more meta level, if apps don't get ported properly or at all, learning to work with a Mac and a PC could very well become like learning Spanish and French...

[@rogerwilco2]

I love OSX/MacOS. But I am done with Apple's hardware choices. I am buying a Windows 10 PC with Ryzen 5900X and AMD 6800XT. All the Macs I have are stuck on an older version of MacOS because they dropped support for various things, not because they can't run Catalina. Add to that right-to-repair, horrible Touchbar and keyboards on the MBP I have, dongle-hell, loss of bootcamp, and that I have no interest in any iOS apps.

[@accordinglyryan]

Man, the fact that even the lowest end Macs sound this impressive has me excited for what they're gonna do with the high end models. I think this was an overall great move for Apple.

[@humble2246]

@NiceGuyGamer yeah but no egpu

[@humble2246]

@NiceGuyGamer tomb raider at 1080p on a 1k laptop? Crazy you can already do that. Its 1080p and with 0 indictation of fps. Egpus are very important it doesnt matter if the gpu performance is ok. Some people need high end gpus.

[@NMEofdaST8]

@@humble2246 the M1 has 2.6 teraflops should be good!

[@humble2246]

@@NMEofdaST8 you do realize that something like a ps4 pro has 2x the amount of tflops.

[@NMEofdaST8]

@@humble2246 duh... it’s not a gaming system bro it’s integrated graphics on a mobile SOC 🤦‍♂️

[@hajjdawood]

Im waiting for the 16” or even better 17” and the new Mac Pro.

[@twystedhumour]

or even "betterer:" wait for the M5 at 1 nm! oouuuuuuuooooooooooooouuuuooooooooooh!

[@UniRyder14]

I bought the Mac mini, w/ 2TB and 16GB ram. When they mentioned tensorflow, I was sold. Looking forward to seeing how the Neural Engine can be used!

[@emielleclercq]

I thought about getting one but the limitation of no external gpu support and only being able to drive a single external display was very disappointing. For the mac mini it's 2 displays max. And the second display is eating into your thunderbolt bandwidth.

[@mikinyaa]

If you are serious about DL, get a GPU ...If you increase batch size reasonably even 8gb dedicated gddr is not enough😂 if you want to try out DL just get a Jetson nano. This new Mac "neural engine" just has no serious position in the market

[@knechtnoobrecht-c137]

I will definitely wait for independent reviews because as you said just by looking at Apple's graphs you cant really tell what performance you will get. Furthermore i am really curious about how well Rosetta 2 works and most importantly i want to know how well if at all Minecraft runs haha.

[@austintexas6392]

Honestly I’m afraid of it switching to minecraft bedrock because of how it supports all iOS games

[@JeanSamyr]

One of my questions. I think if runs Java it runs minecraft.

[@PaperWolfe]

LOL same. I love minecraft

[@knechtnoobrecht-c137]

@@JeanSamyr i have read about JVM already running on the dev kit but allegedly there are some precompiled x86 libraries that dont work on arm (duh...)

[@JeanSamyr]

@@knechtnoobrecht-c137 well if moajang address this on the Cave Update I will be happy

[@Gr33nMamba]

5:16 If I was to take it on literal meaning, I would go by the release date of the CPU, rather than a quantifiable model or performance metric. Interesting marketing blurb. I'd be surprised if it was compared against something like a AMD Ryzen 9 4900HS.

[@uss_04]

XKCD’s timeline on iOS and MacOS looking more true every day.

[@aperture147]

so basically we can see GNU/Hurd in 2060?

[@austinfarley4971]

which comic is that one? I think I missed it.

[@somenygaard]

Will any of these changes make it harder to do homemade Hackintosh systems?

[@Gorthaur42]

@@somenygaard a little bit harder, as in effectively impossible I would guess. Once macOS stops supporting x86, I’m pretty sure the hackintosh is dead.

[@CallMeRabbitzUSVI]

@@somenygaard You bet your sweet ass! But in seriousness the Intel Mac Pro is going to have support til 2024 and after that Apple will effectively kill all x86 macs

[@AvocadoAtrocity]

Waiting for hands on reviews and performance Waiting for 16" MBP

[@gabrielwilkinson4784]

More like waiting for a raise haha JK

[@RandySmith-iz1ml]

I'm holding off because like everyone else, I want to know how these macs even compare to each other and current intel macs and secondly because I expect higher performing macs with more ports in 2021!

[@CatastrophicNewEngland]

I wouldn't hold your breath... If they could go full wireless charging I bet they'd go totally PORT FREE. It's like a social experiment they're running to prove people will keep buying them anyway. I'm using the last fully functional mac laptop, the late 2012 w/disc drive! I love ports!

[@-rhys]

Thank you, great summarisation. I'm looking forward to your take on the three devices once you get you hands on them next week.

[@aborne]

More like week after next week. I ordered a MacBook on Nov 10, and delivery window is Dec 3-Dec 10.

[@Captain_Lift]

I agree that the graphs are screaming "unreasonable user manipulation" because they can change the units however they want. As a math major, I was appalled that a trillion-dollar company couldn't label basic units on the two different axes.

[@yogaexe]

That’s because you’re math major. If you’re a marketing major you will understand why.

[@Captain_Lift]

@@yogaexe I more than understand the salesmanship, and this graph is more than enough to convince the average apple fanatic to upgrade. good job apple misleading people for money

[@shivam-cc5ts]

this trillion dollar company was built on marketing and not math

[@yogaexe]

@@Captain_Lift Most people don’t know the signing of the numbers. They only know bigger is better. Which the graph has done it’s job. You can argue this or that but the truth is the marketing works. The people who understand the real number will find it eventually. And how is that misleading? Explain please.

[@Smorfar]

@@Captain_Lift most people on both camps don't care about graphs and numbers, and the people who do just wait for reviews.

[@dadknowsbest3329]

So good. I ordered 2 airs for my employees, the 13” pro for myself, and the mini to replace the older mini we’re using now for shuffling around files and storage. 🙌🏻 Looking forward to the iMac upgrades to replace our editing machine.

[@c.w_]

How’s the difference?

[@jadonculp]

Quinn: If you haven’t [bought one] yet, why not? Me: I don’t have money.

[@xenotiic8356]

Same! Trying to save up to move in with my girlfriend, I wish I could have both :P

[@VoldoronGaming]

Do not buy it. Get yourself a PC instead. Mac is garbage.

[@fred_derf]

@@xenotiic8356 Ah, you have a girlfriend. No wonder you have no money.

[@hambo76]

@@VoldoronGaming I already have one. I still want an M1 Mac.

[@jadonculp]

@@VoldoronGaming I’ve use both PC and Mac and I like both. Neither is garbage whether you personally like it or not. While there are already multiple desktop PCs in my house, we do not have a Mac. I would like to have a Mac for things the Mac is better at, and honestly the Mac would maintain its performance for longer as Macs have better longevity.

[@pillowfuzz8301]

What’s holding me back? The fact that it’s only on the lower end 13”, I want at least a 14” and all 4 of my usbc ports

[@OwainOwine]

Facts this will be the point where I buy one

[@SaruwatariMasahiro]

get a MBA now to get a taste and get a 14 inch later and give to MBA to someone else in your family.

[@willinton06]

@@SaruwatariMasahiro yeah not everyone is printing cash bro

[@pillowfuzz8301]

@@SaruwatariMasahiro I’m currently using a 16” mbp, that would be a huge downgrade so for now you m sticking with this

[@SaruwatariMasahiro]

@@willinton06 I'm definitely not printing cash, been saving up for a mac since 2016.

[@e.t5875]

Were you wearing a Linus Tech tips jacket, because it suits you and its very comfort.

[@CeasiusC]

Very comfort, much fluff

[@gnmpolicemata]

Lttstore dot com

[@Lock2002ful]

Kudos, I’m still skeptical though. But we’ll see how the benchmarks turn out.

[@JackMasterOfNone]

so.... I dig the LTT sweatshirt! I feel the love

[@MCKornbred]

I just brought my $1800 version of the 13” MacBook Pro earlier this year. The battery drains a lot quicker than expected and it gets a tad warmer than I’d like at times but it’s not so bad that I’m clamoring to be an early adopter of Apple Silicon. I want to see some real world tests first and if I’m super impressed at what I see I might trade in my current MacBook.

[@BradleyRubin]

6:13 Narration mixed up AMD and Intel power consumptions.

[@BAADSessions]

I'm hanging off for the 16" with what I assume will be the M1X ...and only if it has 4x USB ports.

[@armeniancrusader301]

I hope the 16 inch has a dedicated gpu.

[@brandonlarson5712]

me too. i can't figure out when they will release it. have you heard of anything?

[@iMaajid]

@@brandonlarson5712 late Q2 2021 according to Kuo.

[@sisksenpai]

@@armeniancrusader301 the benchmarks show that the M1 has the same graphic performance as a Vega M XL, which is not too bad

[@jsinope2786]

I bet the 16” MBP and iMacs will have a different chip or multi chip. They always seem to use higher end chips in those products and leave the weaker sauce for mini, air and 13”. New Mac Pro will most likely have anew chip. M1Xeon? Lol.

[@Lacreid]

I’m ready to ask my IT guy to replace my 5 year old machine with one of these. Haven’t ordered INE for myself, because I’m waiting to see what’s behind the “focus on power” curtain, which is sure to be mind blowing.

[@la_campanella_roll.mp3]

I absolutely love bootcamp as an added feature on my 16" MBP, which encouraged me to upgrade before the keynote. That basemodel is stellar value IMHO and I love that I can do all my work in macOS and run my whole steam library off it at the same time if I want to (with great graphics on that screen)

[@A51UK]

It look like bootcomp is out on the M1 mac and you steam will not be able to run.

[@Splackavellie85]

Thank you for chosing sponsors that actually add to the subject of the video.

[@enigmachish]

I’ve honestly never taken you seriously from your thumbnails and titles, but damn have I been a fool for judging a book by its cover. You clearly know your stuff very thoroughly and give great insights in an easy to understand way

[@curtisjudd]

Ha! I watch to the end, almost every time! Good analysis. I want to buy one but don't have a way to justify it at the moment. But the future does look bright. Looking forward to your reviews once the new Macs arrive.

[@snazzy]

Thanks, Curtis! Means a lot from a pro like you!

[@asdf51501]

@@TheRealTommyR I would TOTALLY get a lower end MBA in this upcoming generation as a vacation/short-stay device to watch videos on. That battery life coupled with a real processor and not an Intel Core whatever crap.

[@johnwade7430]

Nice idea but only 13” screen size - might as well watch your tv/film on an iPad Pro - I do

[@themistermazin4812]

@@johnwade7430 Well the 16:10 is way better than 4:3 on the iPad for watching TV/Film

[@spikeimperial]

@@johnwade7430 If you already have an ipad pro yea, but for those of us on the fence about it, its about 1728 USD for the equivalent of the 512gb MB Air M1. The MB Air costs 1249 doe. 1728 USD ipad pro is 512gb 12.9 option(1299) with 429 USD added for KB+Pencil.

[@haydensimpson02]

HI uh so the slide where they were like “worlds fastest processor” right before they showed that the guy said something along the lines of “as far as arm processors go” I think you missed that and tbh a lot of people did, no harm done but thought I should mention

[@Zaraien]

It is the world's fastest processor released by Apple this semester

[@sheauiwne5294]

it’s quite close to being the fastest tho. it’s very close to the 5950x

[@haydensimpson02]

I got the quote “when it comes to low power silicon, our high performance core is the fastest cpu core” Lol it’s almost beautiful how easily misleading that is

[@Starmast3rmusic]

@@sheauiwne5294 lmao, no it's not

[@gamerbirty116]

They've never said that lol.

[@chrisvandenbos9764]

About a year ago I got a Mac Mini and I’m very happy with it. My nearly decade old MacBook Pro on the other hand is in need of an upgrade. Looking at the MacBook Air. I use the MBP mostly to put handouts and backing tracks together for teaching guitar. Should be more than suitable for that.

[@michaelgonzales1365]

Lol, no, 1.2 times cuz that’s math. 🤣 I loved that idk why.

[@Geblawi]

Thank you for providing closed-captioning on this video (slight hearing issue). 🙏🏻

[@cellsheet]

As soon as the Mac mini was announced, I knew what I had to do. I immediately purchased one maxed out to replace my current MacBook Pro, and preparing to ship now.

[@mattmecham]

I am thinking of doing the same. My 2016 MBP spends 99% of its time docked now I have the iPad Pro, so I’m thinking of going with a Mac mini to replace it. Would love to know how it goes for you.

[@fuzzjunky]

very brave move

[@HatlessCOM]

Thinking to do the exact same. But I’m not really sure about going for the new M1 or go for the older model with i7 and 32GB or 64GB. What are you using it for and did you consider the older model/i7?

[@Grieche-i8y]

Is be wearing a Linus Tech Tips jacket?

[@MultiVigarista]

yep

[@CattoRayTube]

"What's holding you back?" Money.

[@knightone57]

What's holding me back is what I use my current Mac mini (2012)for which is ripping my dvd's and blu ray that I buy and watching them at home with plex.Will I still be able to run Makemkv and Handbrake?

[@SiimKuusik]

When you get one, please address the situation of Boot Camp and if Windows / Linux are more difficult (or even possible) to run on the M1 💻

[@ABHISHEKGHOSHfcb]

There will be no Bootcamp, you will have to use VMs.

[@cruztube23]

Why would you boot windows when you have MacOS available?! I never understood that

[@Tschonni95]

@Meh Hem No it will be possible to deactivate secure boot. But Windows will not run because there is no ARM build available. Linux on the other hand will.

[@AlejandroLZuvic]

@@cruztube23 because some apps are only available on Windows?

[@AlejandroLZuvic]

@@Tschonni95 are we sure we will be able to deactivate the secure boot?

[@danielowens6663]

I'd like to order one but I'm torn between the air and pro so I'm waiting for folks like you to get them first.

[@amrishsharma457]

Air is a no-brainer at this point. Maybe wait for the 16" if you really want significantly more performance gain.

[@datway3582]

@John Ibrahim I couldn’t wait as I had a 12inch “MacBook” somehow I created a freelance design career making 3k+ a month using that weak hunk of shit, I got the m1 pro with 16ram , I couldn’t wait I’m just gonna sell it and get the redesign when it drops, Apple has grabbed me by the balls

[@MrMoxes]

7:00 Adding a bit of that, we can probably surmise "Fastest" means when it is adequately cooled. I wouldn't be surprised if, even at 10-15W, it will still downclock to protect itself. If it actually had active cooling it could, potentially reach the claims of "Fastest in Class" monicor. We'll see Quinn, we'll see... :-)

[@tom8705m]

Quinn rocking the LTT stealth hoodie 🔥🔥🔥

[@Jaicen83]

I ordered the MacBook Pro with 16GB unified memory and 1TB storage. My rationale was that if the gpu and cpu are using the same memory that there will be much greater gains than with a standard system upgrading the memory

[@Werdna12345]

10:41 What is the chances that they kept a (sandbagging) fan in the laptop, just to be able to brag about how M1 is amazing to allow for fan-less design?

[@garykildall4111]

Entirely possible but thermal throttling has been an ongoing issue with Intel chips in Mac laptops for a few years now tbf

[@DDL-n2u]

Not all of these chips are the same across devices. It could be because technically the Mac Air has 7 GPU Units from Binning and the Pro has 8 and that alone benefits from non passive cooling and that will result in the performance gap between the 2

[@impendio]

very high in my opinion at this point.

[@JonHoltMusic]

I'm super excited for the future of these chips! I'm actually in the market for a new macbook, so I'm definitely wanting to get my hands on one of these, but I'm going to wait to see 3rd party reviews first. They made some very bold, yet vague/ambiguous, claims in their presentation. I'm interested to see how they stack up in reality. Thanks for the amazing content!

[@JeremiahTrue]

I was planning to buy an Intel based Mac mini and feel like I need to do it now so I don't miss out. I'm sure that the ARM system will be robust in a generation or two but reducing the number of ports by half, reducing the max ram to 16 from 64 and the lack of clarity on how this will support apps like Lightroom, Photoshop, Resolve, etc... and whether it can use an eGPU, make me think it would be better to buy now while the tech is still available and then see what comes next. I'm committed to Apple but a wholesale change like this is unpalatable when it's in a production environment.

[@billsp]

What I found disappointing when comparing the specs of the M1 vs Intel machines was the display support. Most the M1s only support one external display, where the intel was support multiple external displays. As a software developer I like to run three 4k monitors, so until they up the GPU performance I can't make the purchase.

[@ChandrakanthReddySoodiReddy]

As a software developer, i have a ton of questions. All the software intended for Intel macs won't run on this one. They have Rosetta but what will be the impact on workflow? Unfortunately, no one will address it.

[@cwyang80]

I am running a 43" 3840x1440 and a 32" 4K both via my MacBook Pro 13" 2017 2x TB3 ports. I think I missed something, but what do you mean that the M1 e.g. MacBook Pro 13" M1 can only support 1 external display even though it has 2x TB4 ports? I am planning to purchase the Pro 13" M1.

[@cwyang80]

@UCvxNwI2XaMpgySOw9HgO7_g Yes you are right OMG. Whats the logic reason to even have 2x TB ports? Maybe the 1st gen M1 cannot support 2x external displays? hmmm...

[@vabeachsux]

M1 supports 3 displays

[@maulikjain3894]

which is better? wanna run windows and other apps MPB2020 16 GB i5 10gen 1tb ssd MPB2020 16gb M1 256gbSSD

[@AnotherLotte]

"What's holding you back?" _Money_

[@UmVtCg]

Get a job

[@AnotherLotte]

@@UmVtCg lol, working during a pandemic already.

[@lucasrem]

mum i need it now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@CatastrophicNewEngland]

That and not having any standard ports! Make them 4 millimeters thicker already!

[@IveBeenThinkingWorkshop]

I recently bought a current model Mac Mini so I can maintain access to Bootcamp and run Windows. However, the more I hear about these new machines, I get the impression they might run Windows faster under Parallels than it runs natively on an x86 processor.

[@axllebeer]

The future of the Mac is going to be interesting.

[@ernestmccollum2397]

Totally irreparable also

[@axllebeer]

@@ernestmccollum2397 very true. Mostly accurate today as well.

[@duncan94019]

I'm holding off because I want someone else to work out the bugs. Even with minor changes there are always a bunch of bugs on the first release. Some of these are even known at the time of release. But many only become known as real users use their machines in different ways than could be tested or just over longer periods of time. In a very major change there are lots lots more bugs that will be revealed and some of them will be fixed with each new build. So I'm glad lots of you will be testing them for me. I am pretty sure you will have a good experience. Be sure to report problems you find.

[@uwekonnigsstaddt524]

I am waiting until the M2 or perhaps M3 equipped laptop (2-3 years) is released, taking care of all those bugs, repairing the time-space continuum, or whatever other shortcomings may arise, saving money in the long run. Let the test pilots test drives those first releases.

[@duncan94019]

@@uwekonnigsstaddt524 Actually it's not just waiting for a new major rev of silicon. Each new rev of silicon or hardware is going to cure some problems and create some others. My personal preference is to wait for at least one minor rev upon each major rev of silicon, hardware and software. As an engineer I've spent many hours in meetings discussing if we can ship a product with the bugs we know. We always hope we can solve it in software. Or if not solve it at least work around it or mitigate the problem with software.

[@sinorcdit]

Holding back just because I want to see the difference in performance between the air and the pro, the 7/8 core gpu and 8 vs 16GB RAM difference. Will choose one of the models depending on how you, ltt, MKBHD reviews it

[@evgena_]

Snazzy: "What's holding you back" Me: *being broke :(

[@rclare701]

I ordered a MacBook Pro (16GB/512SSD) for myself & MacBook Air (base) for the wife, loved the ending :D thanks for the video, I've been holding off upgrading since 2016 when the butterfly keyboard came out and the lack of escape key, I was getting ready to upgrade last year but rumour mill kept me waiting, I'm happy to transition to Apple Silicon, I'm a Software Engineer and keen to experience first hand how the transition goes and build / compile software on the thing. I have a lot of confidence in Apple, I was an early adopter of the Intel Macs following the transition from PowerPC and they really hit the nail on the head with Rosetta 1, with near perfect (although slow...) translation of old apps which was unheard of at the time

[@philipzielinski]

“Check out our tear down from a couple years ago” and see the fan without heat tube. But...no link and, no, I can’t find a MacBook Air tear down in the list of your videos. Link?

[@MattDaddyPrime]

Great video. I love the "I told you so" flex.. it speaks to credibility, which leads to subs.

[@Kabirlota]

@snazzy labs should I wait till next year for 16inch MacBook pro m1 or buy the current 2019 MacBook pro high spec?

[@83442handle]

5:30 hahaha i can't get over how stupid this chart is

[@Enroxxx]

I guess they did it on purpose "yes we know it's completely stupid, but our users don't really care, they will buy anyway"

[@cybercery5271]

What's wrong withit

[@Enroxxx]

@@cybercery5271 it doesn't have units/scale and "latest PC laptop chip" means absolutely nothing

[@dalmowehr8245]

abstract apple art

[@cybercery5271]

@@Enroxxx oh ok

[@iHeatzify]

To be fair, saying "0.2x improvement" is still correct. Saying 'improvement' implies it's supposedly better than the previous version, so it translates to +20% added power. So, I believe your correction in post was actually incorrect, because 1.2x improvement means +120% power, which is more than double the power. That's how I understand it, but at least you got your point across haha With that said, great video! Can't wait for the reviews!

[@mateuszbartosik1507]

Ummm, actually, 1.2x also means 20% increase: 1 x 1.2 = 1.2. I hope I wrote this in a way that is understandable, I just woke up 😁

[@rizadervisoglu]

I would like to buy the mac book pro with M1. However, I had a bad experience when I bought my current MBP13 in late 2016 as it was outperformed in the 2017 version by a lot. I could have easily waited for 6-8 months for better performance. Hence, this time I will wait until next year to see if there is going to be a better version of the first release.

[@Ekphrasys]

It's strange that there are some people complaining about the prices, be the new Macs around 1000$ cheaper than the ones with an Intel CPU! 🤦‍♂️

[@deusexaethera]

Imagine being invested in a hardware ecosystem where it's _possible_ to spend $1000 less and still have a functioning computer.

[@kiattim2100]

Or you could buy something better with the same amount you spend on A1.....?

[@Ekphrasys]

@@kiattim2100 there isn’t something better at the moment ... sorry ... if you exclude i9s/Xeons ...

[@rohangosavi9686]

*Quinn tweets* Apple : Write that down, write that down

[@SterlingANDplatinum]

I literally thought the same thing 😂 Apple over here getting the prophecies for free.

[@bdgza]

I watched to the end. I did not order a new M1 Mac because I have no need for a new Mac at the moment. I can wait and see how these machines are working out for early adopters and see what the more powerful Mac models will come with.

[@YJCH0I]

0:50 This was the moment when I knew…I had to smack “like” on this video.

[@TheDaveJaVu]

I thought it was a yoda at first

[@BryanAgapito]

“THIS is the new Apple M1 chip” dug demuro look alike 😂

[@harshitkumar6863]

I actually got bamboozled by the thumbnail

[@senorfrog5605]

demuro is a snazzy wannabe

[@BryanAgapito]

@@senorfrog5605 I know that. He’s a reviewer that honestly probably doesn’t even know to change a tire

[@jayanthkumar7964]

Ordered the M1 MBP 13 with education pricing, 16 GB UMA, 1 TB SSD, Pro apps for education. Coz my current machine is a Late 2013 15 inch MBP and still performs great - but I need to upgrade my tools, coz I need to - and have to keep the upgrade for at least 6 years.

[@gusantunez6224]

I was literally checking my feed waiting for your video.

[@fred_derf]

Option 1: "Hey, Apple didn't give us hard numbers -- wait for independent 3rd party testing" Option 2: "You can't trust the numbers from Apple -- wait for independent 3rd party testing" Same same.

[@stwg32]

So true!

[@slipoch6635]

UPDATE - Apple website now states that the comparison charts are compared to i3 cpus, but neglect to mention RAM speeds, Hard drive speeds, TDP of the i3s compared or anything else that would actually give us an accurate basis of comparison. confirmation from Apple - there is a hardware component on-board to help translate prores formats, so whether it can accelerate DNx or anything else using the same hardware or whether that is an 'edge-case' remains to be seen. So essentially it looks like it is the equivalent of a mid-range laptop cpu (maybe around i5) with some hardware installed specifically for certain jobs. We'll only really know once these are in reviewers hands and they can run wider-ranging benchmarks using real-world examples. It will be interesting to me to see how Vulkan in particular performs under the new OS as it should still be as quick as on any other OS. (gfx card dependant).

[@Edmundostudios]

Why is 8GB ram still the minimum? It’s been like that for 6 years.

[@JonathanMendez4820]

They really could've at least double the Ram or something

[@Edmundostudios]

@@JonathanMendez4820 any computer that is £1000 should have at least 16gb ram.

[@oolekk]

Because that's how much OSX needs to eat while starting up :) buahahaha

[@CitrusAviation]

I’m waiting for the 16” MacBook Pro with Apple Silicon and to see how the lower tier products preform so I can have an idea on what to expect at the high end. I saw the ending.

[@summoner2100]

So you're waiting to be behind the curve in literally every process... good one. Oi

[@misaalanshori]

It would be amazing if Apple makes a Desktop Mode for their iPhone or iPads, because they all are basically running on the same processor and they already have some software compatability between iOS and MacOS, that could mean that you could run Desktop apps on the iPhone. Imagine shooting a vlog, or other videos with the amazing iPhone camera and then plugging the phone into a hub and then start editing it on the full desktop version of Final Cut. Although this probably won't happen anytime soon (or atleast not without some big limitations) because that wouldn't be good for the Mac Computer sales... But who knows, I feel like the reason things like Samsung DeX is not that popular is because you're still being limited to mobile apps, but if Apple does this they would be able to run Desktop apps on the iPhone using their own version of DeX (Desktop Mode).

[@q43z]

Hmm do I want the iPad without a touch screen, the iPad without a screen or the iPad with a Touch Bar?

[@allanshpeley4284]

Ah, a man of culture I see. And good choices in tech news sources.

[@gjermundification]

The security statements is a double edged sword.

[@janklimek7666]

@John Siket what are you meaning ?

[@yeetusfetus8687]

This isn't totally related to the video, but I wanted to vocally call attention to how much I appreciate the captioning! I can tell that they're in house (or just really really good), with words like anandtech getting captioned properly. With most tech youtubers using auto-captions (or disabling them...), I really dig this, my man

[@PaulBakewell]

Well done Snazzy. I predict that APPLE will release the iPhone 13 next year in September with an A15 chip.

[@RayMak]

How many kidneys do you have?

[@sacredbread]

finally found you with no likes

[@bngmapping]

@@sacredbread same

[@3toYT]

infinite.

[@otterfox488]

I have 2 lungs.

[@DCompani13]

How many you looking for ?

[@KonradZielinski]

Fun fact, the Commodore 64 had a unified memory pool, its how computers used to work back when RAM was expensive. Most PC's do not do this today because it is suboptimal. CPU's and GPU's not only have their own memory but they actually use completely different memory with different performance characteristics. GPU's have memory optimized for bulk data transfer while CPU's have memory optimized for random access. going back to one memory pool means that one or both of these have to be compromised.

[@Powerman293]

Apple: "M1 has the fastest CPU cores in the world" Ryzen 5000 series: "Are you sure about that?"

[@arturivanov2302]

Apple: "M1 has the fastest CPU cores in the world" Per watt

[@parryhotter3456]

Yeah the entire MacBook Air body uses as much as 30w how much power does Ryzen 5000 uses? Still both better than intel though lol

[@parryhotter3456]

I do wish Apple adds Ryzen to their lineup and ditch intel since they already been using Radeon since 6 years ago.

[@Fredjikrang]

Look at the analysis on Anandtech of the A14. The A14 in the iPhone is already almost as fast as the single core boost of the Ryzen 5950, AMD’s fastest core. It is easy to see that once that core isn’t limited to 5W it will be faster than AMD’s core.

[@braddirt]

@@Fredjikrang under what workload? It matters, A LOT.

[@postbreak]

Not being able to drive two displays on a MacBook Pro kills it for me. I use two displays at work so I can’t use the new laptops.

[@djkymaera]

Doesn't usb4 allow two 4k screens?

[@postbreak]

@@djkymaera Maybe, but the product pages state only one display can be driven, mini can run two.

[@GSP-76]

These laptops can't run two displays??

[@danieldougan269]

I have a USB 3.0 dongle that can drive two 4K 60Hz displays.

[@dfgdfg_]

can you not use a dock?

[@johnwade7430]

A silly question: could I fit a new Mac Mini up to my iPad Pro and its Magic Keyboard??:-);-)..........