The Problem With Naruto, and Sasuke in Boruto

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Mr. Pizza

Mr. Pizza

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@loliH9
@loliH9 15 күн бұрын
For years I have been wondering why Sasuke refuses to use the Ashura path to give himself an artificial arm for battle. There's no way he is fighting at his 100 percent without an arm.
@ManLikeBetty
@ManLikeBetty 13 күн бұрын
It's his version of penance for what he did in his teens.
@Tony-lw5yp
@Tony-lw5yp 19 күн бұрын
It should be noted Sasuke, just like Naruto, was missing a huge chunk of his chakra by virtue of opening a portal and bringing even more people that he intended to the fight with Momoshiki and even then he had to be mindful of not wasting it all to open a portal back. On top of that we see him keep up with Fused Momo just as fine after he starts using his EMS (with EMS stated to be a huge power amp in the databook iirc).
@antgarza4031
@antgarza4031 17 күн бұрын
EMS is a substantial power amp, and even more if your base is stronger too
@Tony-lw5yp
@Tony-lw5yp 17 күн бұрын
@antgarza4031 That's what I said, it's explicitly shown in the momoshiki fight oo
@IniOny
@IniOny 16 күн бұрын
In Naruto Shippuden Sasuke can trapped 9 Bijuus no problem. Now after opening portal he lost lots of his chakra.
@shawnn33
@shawnn33 20 күн бұрын
The writing for both of them in Boruto is beyond trash. Making characters as strong as Kishimoto made them in Shippuden made him have to make them dam near stupid to make them weak enough to not be as broken as he made them at the end of Shippuden.
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 20 күн бұрын
Yeah it's honestly just sad.
@chukarex
@chukarex 19 күн бұрын
i swear it's obvious you can't understand what you're reading, Naruto and Sasuke by the end of Shippuden were the strongest in the show, by boruto more otsusuki were added including isshiki who is their superior...he is stronger and faster than they are not weaker...none of the moves from the rinnegan would work on isshiki... Naruto was withstanding almighty push and pull in 6 tails against pain.. Naruto broke out of chibaku Tensei in 8 tails form against pain....he was literally pulling his Soul when nagato tried to pull out is soul, Naruto pulled it back....now if Naruto could withstand all the rinnegas abilities how do you expect them to work on beings stronger than they are.... finally genjutsu doesn't work on Otsusuki...if you actually pay attention you'd notice Sasuke uses genjutsu on every opponent he faced except the otsusuki... this entire video is made of off incomplete understanding of the show.
@js2003
@js2003 18 күн бұрын
Are you serious? Naruto and Sasuke were still feared by Otsutsuki level opponents even after their nerf…Momoshiki had to temporarily team up with Code and hold Shikamaru hostage because they felt like he was too much to handle.
@Youngflynsaved7
@Youngflynsaved7 18 күн бұрын
@ you just admitted to the writing being inconsistent bro 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you just acknowledged and said sauske and naruto was nerfed . If they had to be nerfed then that means their powers weren’t used in a consistent manner sir . Stop trying to discredit the truth cuz you sound dumb .
@js2003
@js2003 18 күн бұрын
@@Youngflynsaved7 When did I acknowledged that they were nerfed? I literally said that they were still feared by the enemies in Boruto…Jigen/Isshiki were just happened to be stronger than them.
@delix787
@delix787 15 күн бұрын
One of the stupidest things I remember people saying is that Sasuke would still be completely useless, even if he used all his Rinnegan powers. Well instead of giving us the idea of it, actually show it so it feels like they’re trying! Because from a story point of view it confuses the audiences as to why you’re not using it? Even if it would be pointless, you still need to put it into the story because it makes your character look so naïve when not using their full power.
@nMeiru
@nMeiru 19 күн бұрын
There's honestly a lot of issues with the powerscaling in boruto ever since they introduced jigen. You're telling me that naruto was easily deflecting 5+ bijuu bombs in the war arc but struggles to tank punches from an imperfect vessel of isshiki? Speaking of jigen, sasuke knew how much of a threat he was but never fought him like an above kaguya level threat. Naruto was hurling jutsu after jutsu against kaguya and madara but jigen? Ye lets throw hands and never try to put him in a position where he CANT absorb our jutsu like we did with kaguya. Sasuke also never used the other variation of amenotejikara where he can teleport his opponents in front of him (he did this with madara AND kaguya and would have been a massive tide changer against isshiki/jigen). They didnt even use the majestic attire kurama avatar against him which is stronger than both kurama and the susanoo alone. Sasuke also never used any other variation of the chidori like nagashi and senbon. Also how tf is borushiki relative to kawashiki? Momoshiki is weaker than both naruto and sasuke but was somehow keeping up with kawashiki (arguably even holding back because he didnt wanna kill kawaki).
@shawnn33
@shawnn33 11 күн бұрын
@@nMeiru bro no flex,….. you spitting 💪🏽💪🏽
@ThePlatinumVault
@ThePlatinumVault 17 күн бұрын
Here come the Boruto fans trying to explain how the facts aren't really facts
@ghoulex642
@ghoulex642 17 күн бұрын
So your a feelings over facts guy cause all the facts prove you wrong 💀💀💀
@sylvanuskofi1952
@sylvanuskofi1952 17 күн бұрын
Facts? This nonsense is facts? Then the earth is flat
@J0ugan
@J0ugan 15 күн бұрын
How are these facts💀💀?
@gaara4667
@gaara4667 17 күн бұрын
Rather the story focused on the adults and not the kids. Irritating seeing them this useless because the kids are the stars now.
@sylvanuskofi1952
@sylvanuskofi1952 17 күн бұрын
If you want that go read the novels and stop coping
@blessedsoul3127
@blessedsoul3127 19 күн бұрын
I really need people process this, why would Naruto even think about frog kata try to read someone's oncoming attack just for a surprise attack when he has an even more powerful form that gives him even more sensory abilities than sage mode, SO6P mode(he can sense and automatically react to limbo). This same transformation "CAN NOT SENSE KAGUYA WHEN SHE'S TRAVELING THREW DIMENSIONS TO SNEAK UP ON NARUTO AND SASUKE"! they mask their Chakra to the point that sensory abilities given by God couldn't even detect them. why would any of their jutsus that they don't use anymore work on any of their opponents who are way stronger than their previous opponents
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 19 күн бұрын
I can see your point of their current opponents being stronger. But personally in my opinion it'd be more believable for them to lose if the opponents actually were stronger. Ofc Jigen, and Isshiki just as an example seem stronger, but only because Naruto and Sasuke are so nerfed, and not allowed to go all out. Now if Naruto and Sasuke went all out, and still lost in a believable way fine.
@arimboualem1967
@arimboualem1967 19 күн бұрын
They lost because: 1- jigen said nuh uh to they jutsu 2- hé IS VERY strong in stats, like i dont think any attack of Naruto and Sasuke Can touch jigen because of his speed, only way is a very good plan from Naruto and Sasuke (with a bit more plot Armor, let's not lie) to have a chance from wining
@martinezseymore3007
@martinezseymore3007 18 күн бұрын
@@MrPizzaSUSbuddy they aren’t nerfed. Their stronger than kaguya as it stands. A narrator statement from the novels confirms sasuke can beat someone as strong as kaguya 1 on 1. Naruto post war has full kurama and has so much chakra he literally shattered reality at one point. Momoshiki can create literal supernovas which places him at solar while in base. Kaguya’s greatest feat is star. But onto why they may feel nerfed. Kishimoto doesn’t want battles to be flashy fights between chakra mechs meaning that we will see far less battles with both the susano and kurama avatar in the future, and even in battles where we do see naruto and sasuke use their respective chakra mechs they will be destroyed. Another thing is sasukes sharingon is useless against the ostostuki because they already know of it and it’s abilities plus sasuke can only copy ninjustu and taijustu. Sasuke can’t copy shinjustu which is what characters like momoshiki use. Another reason is the karma if naruto and sasuke do use the powers of the rinnegan and tailed beasts they would more than likely die due to the fact it won’t work. Boruto makes it clear that all the rinnegan, and six paths powers get nullified by momoshiki, isshiki and jigen all of which would basically make using the rinnegan a waste of chakra for sasuke. It’s not that their nerfed it’s that their opponents are A stronger than kaguya, and B are designed by kishimoto to make it so they can’t use justu. Naruto was never supposed to be a battle of mass destruction where who ever throws the largest justu wins. So while naruto and sasuke got stronger so strong that they can solo shippuden most of their more explosive and large scale justus just get nullified. Ishhiki and momoshiki would be dragon ball fights if it weren’t for their abilities to nullify justu. Sage mode more than likely wouldn’t work against them either since the ostostuki all have six paths powers as a base thing for them meaning more than likely they’ll since the large amount of chakra. Isshiki, momoshiki were beaten only cause of hubris and pride. If naruto even used a simple tailed beast rasengon from any tailed beast the chakra would more than likely be taken by momoshiki or isshiki during their fights. Put it simple the villains are to strong nowadays and are designed specifically to counter any abilities that could actively be useful. Hopefully this makes things clearer. Naruto and sasuke weren’t nerfed until after their fight with isshiki.
@reddboytv1332
@reddboytv1332 18 күн бұрын
@@MrPizzaSUSthey aren’t nerfed though regardless of the narrative you internet people say. Them being nerfed would be current day Naruto and Sasuke losing to madara,obito,itachi or pain for no apparent reason lol. They aren’t fighting people weaker than them therefore they aren’t nerfed
@pspspspsps44
@pspspspsps44 17 күн бұрын
I think theres a deeper fundamental problem in the villains and fights of Boruto, Naruto and sasuke have already reached the peak of a normal shinobi without all this otsutsuki bs and thats why every villain is the same in Boruto who can absorb chakra so normal ninja moves cant be used. Its really repetitive and boring in my opinion every villain has the same ability of absorbing chakra so theres no strategy or mental games its just straight up hands every single time. The fights are just boring, naruto uses his same 3 moves and sasuke too does the same
@StocksYear
@StocksYear 14 күн бұрын
Boruto has had about ten major villains and only 3 of them can absorb jutsu. Isshiki btw can't absorb jutsu cuz he doesn't have karma or the rinnegan. Naruto so happen to fight all 3 and Sasuke 2. The rest of the villains in the show were dealt with by characters who were not them
@syedmauz10
@syedmauz10 17 күн бұрын
I agree with you the only mistake you did is that cubes disrupt sensing abilities massively
@gospelobianyo9045
@gospelobianyo9045 19 күн бұрын
That's wrong, the *nature energy* rasengan is still a chakra based attack and the karma can absorb it
@Azarukii
@Azarukii 18 күн бұрын
It uses natural energy the same sustenance that karma cannot abosrb if I'm not wrong?
@Jrodsmith
@Jrodsmith 18 күн бұрын
@@Azarukii Nature energy based attacks and natural attacks are two different things
@DominicAduGyamfi-pz5qi
@DominicAduGyamfi-pz5qi 18 күн бұрын
@Azarukii nature energy is not the same as physical matter
@gospelobianyo9045
@gospelobianyo9045 17 күн бұрын
@@Azarukii Nature energy ONLY not one molded from chrakra
@901havenbaby7
@901havenbaby7 16 күн бұрын
Could they absorb summonings?
@obi6057
@obi6057 14 күн бұрын
I have a couple of points that explain some of the problems you mention, as I believe you overlooked a few things. For the Jigen battle, prior to the fight starting, Jigen went to go and absorb chakra from the Ten Tails in preparation for the battle with them, meaning he had gotten a major stat buff and the added benefits of the Ten Tails' chakra. Also, prior to the battle starting, Sasuke had come from traveling between time spaces, which Obito stated drains more chakra when traveling to a time space that isn’t your own. This means the multiple trips Sasuke had taken lowered his chakra amount during the battle. Now, for the Naruto points: Frog Kata seems to be a Toad Sage Mode ability, not a Sage of the Six Paths ability, as Teen Naruto never used it while in the Sage of the Six Paths mode either. It’s good for a one-time sneak attack, as in every showing of the ability, but not for repeated use in battle, as seen with the Ashura Path and the 3rd Raikage. As for Naruto not sensing Jigen when he shrinks in Chapter 78, Shikamaru says that Kawaki can’t be sensed when he is using Sukunahikona, and he is using a lesser version of it at the time due to only having half the Dojutsu during that time. So, Jigen, who has Isshiki piloting his body, would have the greater version of what Kawaki had, meaning it should be potent enough to avoid even Naruto's sensing. As for the Tailed Beast Jutsus, most of them can be shrunk by Sukunahikona or absorbed by Karma. The only real useful one would have been the 5-Tails Vapor Cloak, but Jigen would have most likely responded the same way he did to the full Kurama avatar by using the second stage of Karma to match or even overpower Naruto's amp. As for Sasuke, as I mentioned before, he is heavily drained from repeated travel before the fight starts, so there isn’t much he can do. Especially with the statement about the other Rinnegan powers, which, by the War Arc, became useless once the person knew about them, as seen with Obito and Madara avoiding the usage of them. Momoshiki, Jigen/Isshiki, and by extension, a majority of the villains in Boruto have the Rinnegan or know of all its abilities, meaning they can counter accordingly. Like, if Jigen got pulled in, he can shrink or use Karma to teleport out and counter accordingly. Same with the other paths. A majority of these points stay the same with Isshiki, who now has the added power of Karma reincarnation, his original power, and his completed Kokugan Dojutsu. This is the point where he is now stronger than Naruto and Sasuke with additional boosts. Rather than absorb attacks, he can fully shrink them now. His cubes disable all sensory while out on the battlefield, and he still can’t be sensed while shrunken, which is why Sasuke doesn’t bother using the Sharingan against him since the cubes now hinder him. And Naruto already can’t sense him shrunken and also has the cubes hindering him. Tailed Beast Jutsus can still be shrunk, and now Isshiki has the raw power to overcome even a 5-Tails Vapor amp. As for the Code Arc and the timeskip flashback, Code with limiters is far weaker than Wisdom of Age Sage Mode Naruto, which is why he took Shikamaru hostage. Code with limiters is weaker than Jigen, as his power only scales towards a normal Jigen, not Jigen with Ten Tails chakra. And the same with no limiters: base Code is only as strong as or stronger than a Jigen without Ten Tails chakra, which is why Sasuke can fight relatively with Code. These are the in-universe reasons why they are displayed this way, but out of universe, I do agree Ikemoto could at least try and show them attempting these things and failing, so we can at least say they tried. Edit: Somethings I forgot to mention Sasuke used a smoke bomb that disabled visual prowess during the conclusion of the battle with Isshiki, and he stated that it would even affect him, which is why Borushiki was able to sneak attack him. In the manga, the clouds from the bomb can still be seen floating around them. Sasuke quite literally wouldn’t have been able to do anything. Borushiki also notes that he hid his presence and was waiting for the right moment. Naruto was down, Sasuke couldn’t use his eyes, and Kawaki at this point in time doesn’t know how to utilize his connection with Boruto either. Sharingan Genjutsu doesn’t work on Byakugan users, so it wouldn’t work on Isshiki or Borushiki. Jigen is just a body being piloted from the brain, so it most likely would not work on him. As for Code, he was with an army not just alone. Code most likely would have been woken up or snapped out of it by the Claw Grims. Sasuke only using Amenotejikara (his swapping and teleporting) is due to the fact that the villains they face have no knowledge of a Rinnegan with the ability to swap places or travel dimensions so its also his trump card against them. Sasuke doesn’t armor up Naruto in the jigen due to not having enough chakra to still teleport after doing that, or possibly because he didn’t want both of them to get taken out at the same time.
@Jrodsmith
@Jrodsmith 18 күн бұрын
Naruto couldn’t use sage based jutsu because they are still made of chakra. Ishiki could still absorb it. The reason Kashin Koji using real fire worked was because it wasn’t made of chakra.
@RenaldoGarcia-wq4ps
@RenaldoGarcia-wq4ps 13 күн бұрын
Genjutsu cant work on Otsutsukis. The person casting a Genjutsu would need to have greater chakra control than the person they’re trying to catch in one.. kinda like a Tug of war to see who can manipulate who. (Doing it against an Otsutsuki is futile given how they’re superior beings compared to humans). Secondly Boruto/momoshiki most likely erased his chakra signature when he stabbed Sasukes rinnegan(which is why he couldn’t have seen him coming)
@thegoat69468
@thegoat69468 16 күн бұрын
As a naruto yapper myself. Theres SO much techniques the both of them can use that can bypass the main issue of chakra absorption. Additionally, the sharingan can SEE INTO THE FUTURE. Im surprised Sasuke couldn't see hours into the future or have perfect, absolute future sight with a rinnesharingan 😭. And you do have a point with using senjutsu to enhance the chakra with nature energy to bypass absorption. But the truth orbs nullify chakra because they are all nature types at once so it depends. But Naruto, having yin-yang release. Probably has a crapload of jutsu that can bypass this. Yeah and also, why not use fuinjutsu to bypass the seal? Theres a variety of sealing and anti-seal jutsu in the Naruto series. And NARUTO as an Uzumaki should be able to bypass the karma seal because his CLAN SPECIALIZES IN THAT TYPA JUTSU. Both Sasuke and Naruto have too much jutsu gained from the sage of six paths for them to lose to basic chakra absorption.
@StocksYear
@StocksYear 14 күн бұрын
They didn't lose to basic chakra absorption they lost to someone who was purely stronger, faster, and more experienced. Not to mention otsutsuki are knowledgeable on all jutsu and shinjutsu they know all of the rinnegan, six paths abilities. And not once did you mention the fact isshiki has a stage two karma and can shrink any jutsu. Even if he busy absorbing something he can teleport. There's almost nothing they try against him that he doesn't know/counter
@StocksYear
@StocksYear 14 күн бұрын
The sharingan 3 tomoe is predicting movement based on the muscle movements it's not future sight. Even with future sight you needa be fast enough to react. You making it sound like Yhwach levels of future sight
@delix787
@delix787 15 күн бұрын
When you make your main characters into punching bags so consistently, the audiences can no longer see them the same way anymore and they eventually give up on them. 😫
@clouddavis
@clouddavis 15 күн бұрын
Writers make the characters punching bags all the time lol. Naruto was a constant punching bag until the end. Now we have new villains to scale better than the last villain in Naruto’s story. For the most part him and Sauske slap most villains when all out. ONLY Jigen/Isshiki has demolished Naruto and Sauske in battle (before the whole ACTUAL nerf when they both lose important abilities) People over exaggerate this They squash momo but the tricks they used on him just didn’t work against Jigen and they learned that early on, when they both went into the dimension and went straight to chakra mechs. Jigen kicked them OUT of them and Jigen’s shrink and cube/rod abilities make it EXTREMELY hard to get close to him for the taijutsu beatdowns they gave Momoshiki.
@oliverwinter8411
@oliverwinter8411 16 күн бұрын
I’ll give you the easy answer. Sasuke and Naruto are both “too old” to use their insanely powerful Jutsu😂 You have an amazing point. Makes sense since Kishimoto wasn’t the writer of the story at that time.
@thecollectorchildsoloyourf4150
@thecollectorchildsoloyourf4150 13 күн бұрын
@oliverwinter8411 32yrs is too old?💀 okay dude
@oliverwinter8411
@oliverwinter8411 12 күн бұрын
@ bruh, do you not understand what a joke is?🤣💀
@seiaka
@seiaka 20 күн бұрын
Isshiki's cubes negate sensory abilities
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 20 күн бұрын
Fair point. But even so Sasuke really didn't even try to track him with his Sharingan. And as I did mention, frog kata would've been incredibly helpful
@seiaka
@seiaka 20 күн бұрын
@ yeah i love Boruto but most of your points made were very correct. this was just one thing i thought you might have missed, since i think it was only mentioned in the manga and you seem to used the anime for this analysis.
@chukarex
@chukarex 19 күн бұрын
​@@MrPizzaSUSit would only work once and not work again, isshiki knew every move in their arsenal that's why he literally spells out a move they make the moment they do it.
@martinezseymore3007
@martinezseymore3007 18 күн бұрын
@@MrPizzaSUSisshiki was to fast. Remember when kaguya erased her signature so naruto and sasuke couldn’t sense her? Yea isshiki, momoshiki, jigen, boruto, kawaki they can all do that.
@martinezseymore3007
@martinezseymore3007 18 күн бұрын
@@MrPizzaSUSfrog kummate only works cause most opponents didn’t have advanced sensory perception like kaguya or momoshiki. You seem to miss out that they were designed to nullify things like sage mode, kcm, rinnegan,
@TheDarkAdventure
@TheDarkAdventure 14 күн бұрын
It's not like this is new. In the majority of anime the Leader/mentors are stronger than all the enemies the MCs face until end of series where the MCs have to surpass their masters. There's no reason they're doing it so bad now. The main issue is that they keep including Naruto and Sasuke at all. The story should mention them as legends and the Hokage but they don't need to be involved until it really gets out of hand. That would have kept the power scaling in check
@kayjay7306
@kayjay7306 16 күн бұрын
Didn't disagree with a single point 🤔
@Unrealizedthoughts0
@Unrealizedthoughts0 16 күн бұрын
Been saying this for YEARS. Naruto and Sasuke is theory should be crazy strong. Naruto: Not using Frogkata since Pain is wild. Heck Ma & Pa can use the Frog. If Kishimoto wanted, Naruto could've gotten his mom's chains too. Because of his Sage training, Naruto should have a meditating clone posted everywhere. Sasuke: Not using Kirin since Itachi is wild (It's nature based, Sasuke just lures it). Not way Sasuke can run out of Chakra when he has the Rinnegan and display the Peta Path.
@StocksYear
@StocksYear 14 күн бұрын
Jigen too fast frog kata to be useful jus look at the fight naruto couldnt even land a blow in the first place. If he had ma and Pa they would instantly get killed by the chakra rods. Why would need a clone to meditate if he can go into sage mode in an instant? Him not using the chains is a Shippuden issue. Using kirin is too slow. And otsutsuki are all knowledgeable on rinnegan powers so using them wouldn't surprise him and it's not wrong to assume he can easily counter most of its abilities
@Unrealizedthoughts0
@Unrealizedthoughts0 14 күн бұрын
@@StocksYear I first off, Naruto not attempt to use Frog Kata is still an issue. There were times Jigen was pinned and had to be creative. How are you using Kyuubi Avatar with Susanoo Armor on Momoshiki, but not Jigen? Regardless of knowledge, Rinnegan abilities give Sasuke a better chance. Sasuke has Peta Path (Chakra Absorption) and didn't use it once against him. Sasuke should mastery over Kirin. The clones at this point wouldn't be for instant sage mode, it'd be for storing extra chakra. Ma and Pa doing the frog song would be trouble with Jigen since most of their jutsu are nature based. Koji himself proved this (which forced Isshiki to come out). Yes, the chain are a creative gripe I had.
@StocksYear
@StocksYear 14 күн бұрын
@@Unrealizedthoughts0 idk why they didn't use the avatar but it's not like it would've mattered. No point in trying to absorb his chakra he was jus beating they ass without it whole time. Again kirin is too slow. I see the clone thing for extra chakra I guess but for what atp. Naruto can't summon ma and Pa like jiraiya and even if he did they'd be killed instantly by the rods. If it's a justu that uses chakra, doesn't matter how much, it can be absorbed and even if not he can still shrink it. Koji didn't bring out isshiki with any sage nature anything he brought him out with real pure flames summon from somewhere else, something he can't shrink or absorb
@Unrealizedthoughts0
@Unrealizedthoughts0 14 күн бұрын
@@StocksYear I think the avatar would matter. Heck, Naruto can clone avatars who can also gather chakra. Kirin being "slow" isn't the problem. It's still a nuke that should be way more powerful since he was a teenage (which is still nature based). Sasuke had smoke bomb that can block the Byakugan (That would've been useful during the fight). I doubt he can shrink Ma & Pa Frog Song or absorb it. Usually it's a physical thing he can touch (We saw masks, Rasengan, and other weapons get shrunk for example). Also, The Rinnegan has 6 paths (7 if you count the outer path). No way you can tell me those ain't useful.
@StocksYear
@StocksYear 14 күн бұрын
@Unrealizedthoughts0 all those avatars would cuz him a little trouble but not that much. Sasuke didn't have those bombs fighting jigen he had them fighting isshiki who is leagues stronger than jigen. Once again you mention ma and Pa but Naruto can't summon them he's not contracted to them and, again, even if he did they would be killed instantly cuz the song takes too long. We assume that jigen either tanks kirin if he gets hit with it or it'll force him to resurrect which is an instant win con for isshiki. Those basic 6 abilities of the rinnegan are common knowledge among his clan so he can probably counter or see them coming. I'm trynna tell you man there is no way they beat jigen or isshiki without baryon mode. Go reREAD (not watch) the fights again and you'll see why I'm so certain
@dynosgarcia7645
@dynosgarcia7645 17 күн бұрын
I see a lot of people making comments along the lines of "ability X and technic Y aren't used because Isshiki/Jigen can counter it" And to that I think... so? Isshiki and Jigen can also counter punches, sword slashes, kunays and alike, yet Naruto and Sasuke still use them, it's not like they throw a kick, it gets blocked and then they say "well gotta stop kicking for the rest of the series"
@kolfuraxgaming7199
@kolfuraxgaming7199 17 күн бұрын
Yeah but Naruto and sasuke only knew about his chakra absorption power at the start of the fight, they didn't knew that jigen could also counter direct attacks like punches, sword slashes ect, and even if they did knew about it at the start of the fight, what they did was still the best they could do given the enemy's abilities.
@ghoulex642
@ghoulex642 17 күн бұрын
Bro did u just get out of kindergarten, like are u 5? taijutsu is in fact one the best ways to counter an otsutski because shocker otsutski absorb justsu and chakra based attacks. Your comment is nothing, its a fart in the wind. It adds nothing to the discussion, lil bro is pointing 👉 to the sky telling me the sky is blue head ahh
@samuraixsquadgaming111
@samuraixsquadgaming111 16 күн бұрын
Not the best take imo. Once again, speed and strength plays a part in this.
@XAsh_black
@XAsh_black 15 күн бұрын
This take is horrible, so because they can they should just waste chakra?
@IxhonestxI
@IxhonestxI 14 күн бұрын
the difference is they are useable since they scale to his capabilities, all those offensive stuff you named scale to them while the point of the other stuff is their utility which get countered, we gotta start thinkin more
@deletedchannelname7426
@deletedchannelname7426 15 күн бұрын
8:36 i actually realized this while watching and pointed it out, like why???? back in shippuden itachi and sasuke practically slept with it on, and here sasuke is in the biggest fight of his life and wouldn't activate it?
@elhood4060
@elhood4060 19 күн бұрын
Naruto could sense Madara limbo clones from q different dimension but couldn't track jigen 😂
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 19 күн бұрын
That's what I'm saying. SPSM is busted.
@itseokoro1944
@itseokoro1944 19 күн бұрын
​@@MrPizzaSUSdo u even understand any of isshikis powers at all??
@arimboualem1967
@arimboualem1967 19 күн бұрын
They are MUCH more smaller then damn ant man+otsutsukfi can hide they chakra
@1ce867
@1ce867 18 күн бұрын
@@MrPizzaSUShe was using six paths, it’s just a plot hole that he couldn’t sense jigen
@itseokoro1944
@itseokoro1944 18 күн бұрын
@@1ce867 jigen can erase his chakra signature it's not a plot hole all otsuskis can🤦
@IniOny
@IniOny 16 күн бұрын
Kishimoto in early Naruto : i introduce you to a move called ninjutsu. It uses chakra from your body and by performing various hand seals you can create such a cool and devastating attacks. Kishimoto later : create characters that can absorb chakra. Haha ninjutsu is useless now. It's so human. You have to use alien power now.
@andr01xx
@andr01xx 15 күн бұрын
yeah, bc piloting chakra mechs is somehow ninja like. Kishi himself said he hates how he came to using chakra in fights and wanted to down scale.
@J0ugan
@J0ugan 15 күн бұрын
It actually makes the ninja in Boruto more of a ninja if you think about it
@danielandrews425
@danielandrews425 19 күн бұрын
Sauske used the renegaun to drain naruto (the most stamina based fighter other than hashirama) but never thought to drain ishiki who was literally halve way in the grave. The amount of time ishiki was grabbing or touching him was crazy
@js2003
@js2003 18 күн бұрын
Do you know how much chakra an Otsutsuki has compared to Naruto? It wouldn’t have even matter if he tried to absorb his chakra because Isshiki would’ve dropped them cubes on him before he even tried to do it.
@danielandrews425
@danielandrews425 18 күн бұрын
@js2003 they had a two day timer, any amount of time chipped off would've helped. Also it was ishiki resurrected in jigen's body who was already cooked from fighting koji and started breaking against Naruto and Sasuke.
@XAsh_black
@XAsh_black 15 күн бұрын
Let's put it like this, the ten tails has chakra comparable to a small planet, and otsutsukis eat them their entire life. Absorbing that would take time literally a lot of time, for example look at how much time it took for momoshiki to absorb part of narutos chakra. Sasuke would die if he even tried, + they can't pin isshiki down
@StocksYear
@StocksYear 14 күн бұрын
His timer runs on life force not chakra. Draining it wouldve done nothing which was the whole point of baryon mode: to shave off his life force with nuclear fission. He also wasn't tired and at 100% after fighting koji because that was jigens body taking allat. There wasn't any fight before baryon where isshiki was stressed
@losts4593
@losts4593 20 күн бұрын
I was so mad that they made naruto lose kurama and sauskes rinnegan bro
@patrickchikwanda6892
@patrickchikwanda6892 20 күн бұрын
They nerfed them then wrote them out of the story
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 20 күн бұрын
Yeah that really sucked.
@albertoalves1063
@albertoalves1063 19 күн бұрын
Sasuke could use izanagi or izanami easily to save the rinnegan, but even that he didn't used and lost the strongest eye in the verse
@martinezseymore3007
@martinezseymore3007 18 күн бұрын
@@albertoalves1063then he would’ve lost a massive part of his arsenal even bigger than his rinnegan. At least with mangekyo he can still use 95% of his abilities and it wasn’t much of a nerf and more of a slight buff in chakra for him
@kw695lh
@kw695lh 18 күн бұрын
@@albertoalves1063yh but sasuke wouldve lost his sharingan just to get a chakra draining rinnegan that wouldnt let him use half his abilities
@SkEi-y3b
@SkEi-y3b 19 күн бұрын
If you have bad opinions on the fight that doesn't mean it's bad writing A strong villain destroying the protagonist is the story and that's it If you have problems with the power system that doesn't mean the story is written bad
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 19 күн бұрын
I respect your opinion. If you think the writing is good that's cool. It's a mixed debate so it's only natural that there will be mixed opinions on the writing. But sorry to burst your bubble there is no such thing as a good or bad opinion. An opinion is just that, and opinion.
@SkEi-y3b
@SkEi-y3b 19 күн бұрын
@MrPizzaSUS I meant if you don't like the fights ( a bad opinion) I don't mean your opinion is bad I meant you have a negative opinion towards the story And either ways the fights have nothing to do with the writing
@Timmy2hands96
@Timmy2hands96 16 күн бұрын
I can see where you're coming from, but you are incorrect on a few fronts. The manga says mulitple times that ohtsustuki can erase their chackra completely. So, of course, momo cought sasuke off guard, he can NOT sense him. Especially after going through the toughest fight of his life. Momo is undetectable.
@i.q.1979
@i.q.1979 16 күн бұрын
But his Rinnegan can see beings in other dimensions. Remember Madara's limbo clones? Also, the Sharingan can SEE chakra. Remember the Jigen fight?
@i.q.1979
@i.q.1979 16 күн бұрын
Also, Naruto can SENSE beings in other dimensions. Remember Madara's limbo clones?
@Timmy2hands96
@Timmy2hands96 16 күн бұрын
@@i.q.1979 he can't sense the chakra of an ohtsutsuki who's actively suppressing his own chakra. Nobody can.
@Timmy2hands96
@Timmy2hands96 16 күн бұрын
@@i.q.1979 and jigen wasn't suppressing his chakra.
@i.q.1979
@i.q.1979 16 күн бұрын
@@Timmy2hands96 If Jigen wasn't suppressing his chakra, Naruto should've sensed him.
@Ashii_kun
@Ashii_kun 20 күн бұрын
Fun fact, boruto can be better even without nerfing naruto and sasuke, on my own opinion.
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 20 күн бұрын
100% agreed. I also think it would be better if scientific ninja tools weren't a thing. And it'd be better if the new generation actually had to train, and work hard to get all their abilities instead of just having them.
@RashadTheKid
@RashadTheKid 19 күн бұрын
@@MrPizzaSUS you do realize that they only introduced scientific ninja tools for the first arc? After the first arc boruto didn't even like the tools at all but then he realized how they could be used to help other people with disabilities and stuff
@RashadTheKid
@RashadTheKid 19 күн бұрын
@@MrPizzaSUS that's how I know you didn't watch boruto just by saying that the new generation didn't train
@sylvanuskofi1952
@sylvanuskofi1952 18 күн бұрын
​@@RashadTheKidcook 😂 always lame arguments always
@moneyboiimista
@moneyboiimista 22 күн бұрын
Great video!! I do wanna say I’m not a Boruto fan but I did watch these fights & I couldn’t agree more with you. I feel like the writers either got lazy or they’re just using Naruto & sasuke for fan service
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 22 күн бұрын
Couldn't agree more
@sylvanuskofi1952
@sylvanuskofi1952 18 күн бұрын
That's exactly why they removed them from the story cause you guys have zero actual comprehension as to what the story is about 😂
@J0ugan
@J0ugan 15 күн бұрын
If you only watched Boruto for the fights then you shouldn't make opinions on the story
@sc-1918
@sc-1918 19 күн бұрын
5:22 Because can also shrink them and thats what he did here and he didnt spam clone because its useless and we saw that jigen can just sweep them in one go. 6:33 Otsutsuki can hide their chakra and sasuke'eyes can see and sense otsutsuki, dont forget he is able to see and sense momoshiki inside boruto same goes with conversation they had when the karma got passed down he was the only one who saw that. also naruto doesnt have 6 path sage mode anymore (since its not his chakra it disappear overtime like regular sage mode or kyuubi chakra). Frog kata would have been usefull if jigen wasnt so much above them and he barely use it. 7:48 he can shrink and is a beast in close combat pulling him toward you is not a good idea. Now the reason why he didnt use the other rinnegan ability is simple, they were useless in this fight. Shuradô: not really good and can be replace by susanoo. Chikushôdô: the summon can die are not that strong and can be replace by susanoo. Gakidô: jigen dont use ninjutsu. Tendô: shinra tensei could have been usefull but bansho ten'in straich up useless when your opponent is a taijutsu based fighter that can shrink and tp. Ningendô: need your opponent to stand still useless when your opponent can shrink himself. Jigokudô: useless again someone who's not lying and you need to catch your opponent. those are probably the reason why obito and madara didnt use them either. 8:37 The daikokuten cubes can negate sensory abilities and jigen is just much faster than him. 10:14 Right after defeating the strongest guy they ever faced, getting stab mutipletime by rob that can steal chakra and beat up like a sandbag, yes. 13:50 It does limit code is much weaker than naruto also it might surprise y'all but the difference btwn naruto sasuke and jigen was not that big, his bag was just perfect to counter them and even with that he needed days to recover to the point where kashin koji was able to take him out. no limit code is nowhere as experienced as jigen nor have the perfect bag to counter them + he stupid and being able to injure someone dont make you on par with them.
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 19 күн бұрын
I can see some valid points here. However Naruto does have SPSM. SPSM and SO6P are two separate modes. You can tell by his eye pigmentation that it's SPSM. SPSM is acquired when you have chakra of all the tailed beasts. SO6P was something he only had when he had Hagaromo's chakra. So SO6P is the mode he lost.
@sc-1918
@sc-1918 19 күн бұрын
@@MrPizzaSUS yes you'r right i forgot about that
@blessedsoul3127
@blessedsoul3127 19 күн бұрын
​​​​​​​​​@@sc-1918 no he's not, Naruto didn't lose SPSM, SO6P(Sage of Six Paths) and spsm(Six Paths Sage Mode) are the same transformation just named differently depending upon how you want to say it. What Naruto ACTUALLY lost is the yang seal that hagaromo gave him. There are no pigmentation on adult Naruto's eyes, that's Kcm2 Sage Mode or Kurama-link sage mode that has the eye pigmentation. so no you were right, Naruto and Sasuke couldn't do anything against Jigen, frog kata is not that crazy, all of Sasuke's rinnegan abilities except amenotejikara completely useless, boil release is not doing anything to someone who's juiced up ten tails Chakra, and people are basically saying that they want them to be one tapped, at the same time in their combined avatar state. although I will say that the power scaling is inconsistent at times
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl 19 күн бұрын
​@@blessedsoul3127naurto doesn’t have the renigan and 9 tome markings on his back... These were always used to highlight that the character has accuired six path senjutstu powers and naurto clearly doesn't have them He merely has a six path enhanced sage mode now And both frog katah and boil relase would have greatly helped and their presence would have still given him a better chance than lacking them, naurto doesn't display any new powers or mastery over powers he had and it's hard to think that he is supposed to be stronger now like this
@blessedsoul3127
@blessedsoul3127 19 күн бұрын
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Those 9 tome, the rinnegan, and the cloak is not how you determine whether he's in so6p mode, when we see what looks base Naruto but with the pupils kcm and sage mode but without the orange pigmentation around he's eyes, that's SO6P, Six Paths Sage Mode. he just stacks kuubi Chakra on top of SO6P. Naruto didn't use Boil release to swap hands with kaguya, he used it because he because he was stuck in ice and couldn't break out with sheer power, he just melted the ice, that's it. Instead of saying that Naruto and sasuke are nerfed because they don't every single jutsu in their arsenal(you know, Jutsu that are not that reliable in the situation they're in), we should talk about some of the plot holes and stuff that doesn't make sense in boruto like how did momoshiki not see the vanishing rasengan when he has the byakugan, we that's his byakugan is active because he attacks Naruto's Chakra points, or why is Kinshiki, someone who pressed sasuke and him on defense for the majority of the fight struggling with the kage who are all much weaker than both Naruto and Sasuke with just half of their Chakra
@sasukex-ce1mt
@sasukex-ce1mt 11 күн бұрын
U are wrong because of the people naruto are fighting are stronger them.even momoshiki and isshiki are even nerf.that naruto and issihki fight, isshike war not even in 100% why fighting naruto because of the vessel can not carry his full power
@karnatheherroicspirit1065
@karnatheherroicspirit1065 18 күн бұрын
What made me so mad is that sasuke lost his Rinnegan in the worst way possible, He never got a PowerAmp like Baryon mode or something. I wanted sasuke to summon the gedo statue and absorb the baby 10 tailed beast. And then cover the Statue with his sussano..
@js2003
@js2003 18 күн бұрын
He would’ve gotten kicked out of that Susanoo again by Isshiki…
@karnatheherroicspirit1065
@karnatheherroicspirit1065 18 күн бұрын
@js2003 not really..A sussano created by the energy of 10 tails would be deadly.. Jigen himself absorbed the chakra of 10 tails before fighting Naruto and sasuke. Now imagine Sasuke full Absorbing the that 10 tails and summon the gedo statue and cover it with his sussano.
@js2003
@js2003 18 күн бұрын
@@karnatheherroicspirit1065 Isshiki and Jigen are a completely different opponent tho as stated by Kashin Koji&Naruto. Jigen had to absorb the 10 tails chakra because he was in a broken down body and had to because of how durable Naruto is
@karnatheherroicspirit1065
@karnatheherroicspirit1065 18 күн бұрын
@@js2003 yeah but he is still strong and he only absorbed the portion of the chakra..Sasuke Absorbing the entire 10 talked beast means he would have double the power of jigen or more than that...
@martinezseymore3007
@martinezseymore3007 18 күн бұрын
@@karnatheherroicspirit1065technically sasuke got a power up in the manga. We got ten tails sasuke otherwise known as hidari and soon sasuke will get two rinnegan and his arm back if they actually beat hidari so he got the power up. He’s just not beating isshiki unless you think he’s half as strong as jura. As for why he didn’t get a power up earlier because he isn’t madara
@PURPLE_G0J0
@PURPLE_G0J0 15 күн бұрын
The fact that the writers wrote limitless Code to be so OP at the end of Part 1 Boruto only for him to be a complete joke at the very start of part 2 is blasphemous. By that power scaling the new gen ino-shika-cho can hold their ground to end of Shippuden Naruto and Sasuke because new gen ino-shika-cho held their own against Jura; the same Jura who can snipe 1HKO post timeskip base Boruto who hasn’t used his Karma powers/amp in years that makes limitless Code seem like he belongs in the academy.
@StocksYear
@StocksYear 14 күн бұрын
Ino shika cho didn't hold anything. Jura wasn't even trying when he fought hima what makes you think they were "holding they're own"
@PURPLE_G0J0
@PURPLE_G0J0 14 күн бұрын
@ all but one didn’t almost die
@StocksYear
@StocksYear 14 күн бұрын
@@PURPLE_G0J0 so you think ino shika cho were holding their own against the strongest in the entire series. Somebody stated stronger than Boruto and kawaki and all the other shinju. Somebody who no diffed hima. Somebody without moving a muscle disabled code. Yea I can say for certain jura wasn't trying. Code is strong btw he jus got cliffed by the rest. He could light work ino shika cho
@PURPLE_G0J0
@PURPLE_G0J0 14 күн бұрын
@ I don’t think so, the writers do
@StocksYear
@StocksYear 14 күн бұрын
@PURPLE_G0J0 no they don't you lack reading comprehension
@abdulquadribusari2214
@abdulquadribusari2214 18 күн бұрын
Naruto and Sasuke were done dirty Jigen was always meant to win, but it could have been executed better by actually making them fight like they used to They even forgot Naruto could fly, and there was no explanation for why he couldn't use TSO, all cause it'll be too stressfull to find a decent way to beat them
@rjsblanket3024
@rjsblanket3024 17 күн бұрын
For the TSO, Naruto was losing him in his fights against Madara, Kaguya and Sasuke
@abdulquadribusari2214
@abdulquadribusari2214 17 күн бұрын
@rjsblanket3024 TSO are not like weapons that can be used up, you can make as much as you want as long as there's enough chakra. Naruto made more than two dozens throughout his fight
@sylvanuskofi1952
@sylvanuskofi1952 17 күн бұрын
@@abdulquadribusari2214 stop yapping he lost tsos in Shippuden, and yes it was executed better you're like children whining when things have been explained and spoon fed to you Huh ? Jigen wipes them no diff he was joking in that fight jigen is the one who was nerfed not Naruto and Sasuke
@sylvanuskofi1952
@sylvanuskofi1952 17 күн бұрын
@@abdulquadribusari2214 yh you can't make as many as you want stop yapping nonsense
@abdulquadribusari2214
@abdulquadribusari2214 17 күн бұрын
@@sylvanuskofi1952 learn to comprehend what others say b4 you make ur point I have no problem with my favs losing a battle, jigen was obviously stronger than them and the fight would have ended earlier had he used his horn to start with. What I hated about it was the fact that Naru/Sasu charged at him with no plan, which is unlike them. And maybe u need to read or watch Naruto again, cause TSO are made by merging 5 basic natures together. And Naruto used a lot throughout the battle. You'll probably need to read or watch boruto again cause Jigen (not Ishiki) wasn't nerfed, rather he was juiced
@Istillneedanap
@Istillneedanap 20 күн бұрын
This video just proves why this fandom is irritating practically the equivalent of: "the anime has became about a different character why has the main characters of the prior one gotten less relevant this is bad writing" Like it's obviously they can't be that strong otherwise it'll have absolutely no stakes so it's obvious that they need to get power cliffed so it can actually have stakes without that it's just pre Gojo sealing JJK with no stakes and an anime lacking progression like an isikai Also the way you're talking about using the techniques is just trying to use it optimally to get the best possible result that isn't anime that's just a meta power trip. Please give me an example of a major anime thst actually used the strongest possible things in conjunction, don't use Shinppuden as that definitely doesn't take Itachi Obito so on so forth that could end a foght on the spot Boruto doesn't have bad writing it's judt thsh people don't like things changing as characters get power cliffed for plot advancement it's not that it's not consistent it's that people refuse to agree that some characters that they really like got power cliffed or lossef relevance as it's no longer about then it's about the next generation if they were at their strongest it would just be Gojo type stuff with no tension as i mentioned before
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 20 күн бұрын
First off I respect your opinion. But I will say It's not just Naruto and Sasuke that suffer from the writing. Even characters like Kawaki do. Like Kawaki is supposed to have surpassed Isshiki by now, but yet he's getting one shot by basically everything. Code really suffers from the writing as well. Code to me seems like a pretty cool antagonist on the surface, but he just gets thrown around. I mean pre timeskip boruto using only stage 1 of his karma seal was destroying him. My main reason for saying the writing is bad other than it being just my own opinion, is largely just due to the inconsistent power scaling. Which happens with the new and old generation.
@MrL1G3R
@MrL1G3R 19 күн бұрын
​@@MrPizzaSUSYou obviously didn't read the latest chapters of TBV where it states that Amado put a limiter on Kawaki's true power.
@martinezseymore3007
@martinezseymore3007 18 күн бұрын
@@MrPizzaSUSthe main reason is cause they are about to have to buff every character in the verse due to shibai. If kishimoto keeps everyone at the same level of power then introduces a universe busting character and that character loses it going to be plot. Kishimoto is only allowing characters like code and kawaki to get pushed around to motivate them and eventually push the power of other characters further up the pole
@DominicAduGyamfi-pz5qi
@DominicAduGyamfi-pz5qi 18 күн бұрын
@MrPizzaSUS since when waa kawaki stated to have been stronger than isshiki Amado literally placed limiters on him even if he had his limiters removed he is stated to ve weaker than isshiki by the fact that his chackra levels are just not large
@SkEi-y3b
@SkEi-y3b 19 күн бұрын
Also the shadow clowns thing he mentioned after the chakra signature thing won't work Jigen is too fast he can change his place before Naruto can do anything from his knowledge that he got from the shadow clowns And jigen can absorb Naruto attack with karma or traveling to another dimension if needed Landing one hit on jigen will do nothing rather than saying he's cooked Further more jigen wasn't using his full karma extension before the susanoo and the kyubi And combining them also won't work because he can still demolish them with two punches after that They are too slow compared to jigen
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 19 күн бұрын
In terms of the speed factor. It's really hard to say with that. Speed has always been inconsistent through out Naruto so I won't even try to break that down. But regardless Naruto could do something with his knowledge from his clones. Well that's if he was actually using the broken sensory skills from SPSM. You're right about Jigen absorbing jutsu, but Naruto could stack Senjutsu onto his own jutsu making it a nature attack. And I think you make a valid point about the Kurama Susanoo avatar. Likely wouldn't have worked, but I was more less just giving an example of many of things they just don't try to do.
@SkEi-y3b
@SkEi-y3b 19 күн бұрын
@MrPizzaSUS a nature attack based on chakra can be absorbed with the karma Anyway je could have shrunk it
@lomarvgc1580
@lomarvgc1580 19 күн бұрын
You need to watch why Jigen won by naruto explained...
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 19 күн бұрын
Already have. But this video wasn't entirely dedicated to that fight.
@217superninja
@217superninja 19 күн бұрын
Isshiki/Jigen is just stronger than them , what use would all of the other abilities be against an Otsutsuki.He can absorb all their ninjutsu or shrink any thing he can’t absorb. Genjutsu can’t work ,they don’t have sealing jutsu(Chibaku tensei isn’t gonna work).You keep saying frog kata but that can be used like once before enemy just understand it and counters it. Otsutsuki also can mask their chakra signature and can’t be sensed normally.If u plug ur controller in them ur just gonna make them use all these abilities to waste more chakra and still lose.The Otsutsuki already know all of the rinnegans abilities because a lot of them have rinnegan.
@SkEi-y3b
@SkEi-y3b 19 күн бұрын
Karma can absorb elemental attacks It just can't absorb natural water itself Anyway he could shrink it
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 19 күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure Naruto would be able to add as much Senjutsu to one of his jutsus as needed. Now regarding shrinking it. No Jigen cannot do that. Kawaki is able to though, but that's because he's a perfect vessel Jigen is not, so he's not able to utilize the full extent of the Karma seal.
@daywonphillips1687
@daywonphillips1687 19 күн бұрын
​@MrPizzaSUS, but he enlarged rods to pin Naruto and and shrunk himself mid-fight
@DominicAduGyamfi-pz5qi
@DominicAduGyamfi-pz5qi 17 күн бұрын
@MrPizzaSUS jigen can shrink stuff with his eyes he literally did thatvwhen he got conered with kojis flames during the battle but he doesn't do it it because the more he uses most of his powerful abilities his body breaks down
@SkEi-y3b
@SkEi-y3b 19 күн бұрын
Otsotsuki can vanish there chakra so Naruto can't feel him Even the negative emotions thing can't work sense he didn't feel kawaki when he ran from the village And sasuke saw jigen because of his visual abilities not because he felt his chakra Sasuke *saw* jigen because of his enhanced sight and Naruto didn't *feel* jigen chakra
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 19 күн бұрын
I think for the Kawaki thing you mentioned Naruto wasn't in KCM. Naruto does have to be in KCM in order to sense negative emotions. ofc Naruto and Sasuke don't get to utilize there full ability in Boruto ever. So take that as you will
@martinezseymore3007
@martinezseymore3007 18 күн бұрын
@@MrPizzaSUSsasuke didn’t get his full moveset cause it was useless. If you pay attention the writing makes it clear sasuke and naruto aren’t going to be able to use justu as they would like
@killakame-3434
@killakame-3434 18 күн бұрын
Everyone in the Comments should STOP coping and see what their 'it makes sense' mentality led to. Naruto has a brain damage thanks to that Hair and Sasuke became 'where is my Chakra Momy' punch line every page he is in
@godobb
@godobb 17 күн бұрын
it makes sense though...
@lacius
@lacius 17 күн бұрын
@@godobb Just because it "makes sense" doesn't mean it's good writing. That's just the power scale brain damage talking.
@godobb
@godobb 17 күн бұрын
@@lacius doesnt make it bad writing either, if you pay attention while reading/watching then theres not really any inconsistencies within the writing or how the story is handled. (besides Sasuke getting gimped by borushiki and a kashin koji thing which wasnt even mentioned in this video but i havd to re read next generations) you are attributing your dissatisfaction with the story/previous main characters to "bad writing".
@sylvanuskofi1952
@sylvanuskofi1952 17 күн бұрын
So you clearly have nothing sensible to say thanks for your 🚮 opinion
@lacius
@lacius 17 күн бұрын
@@godobb I didn't say it was necessarily bad writing either. It's not engaging for a lot of people, and it is to a lot. This is similar to why Dragon Ball seems to have as many critics as it has fans. It's clear the audience early Naruto cultivated wanted battles with more nuance than "omg this guy stronger." And that's just at odds with the fanbase that stayed by the end of shippuden. Imo, something so simplistic is boring.
@saltysalt9213
@saltysalt9213 15 күн бұрын
8:30 ok in Isshiki’s defense, the cubes literally suppress sensory abilities so that’s why Natuto was unable to detect him not to mention, Isshiki is way stronger than Jigen so their options were far more limited in this fight
@stresslee
@stresslee 17 күн бұрын
I can’t watch boruto. It’s trash and embarrassing. I love some of the ideas, but they were just implemented so horribly bad I can barely watch Naruto things anymore. It just killed the whole series. Idk what the author was thinking. To me it just showed that this dude doesn’t actually care about his story anymore, it’s just about the money and keeping the franchise going as long as he can so more people will get sucked into it.
@i.q.1979
@i.q.1979 16 күн бұрын
The reason he created Kaguya was because the studio wanted to keep the Naruto franchise going, because it just keeps making money.
@J0ugan
@J0ugan 15 күн бұрын
If you don't like the show then don't watch but you should understand that it's not a story about Naruto and his era but Boruto and the era he is in with Naruto
@StocksYear
@StocksYear 14 күн бұрын
Cry me a river
@aushaurdwilson
@aushaurdwilson 21 күн бұрын
Bro make good points the writing got lazy
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 21 күн бұрын
You know it man.
@DominicAduGyamfi-pz5qi
@DominicAduGyamfi-pz5qi 17 күн бұрын
Or you just lack reading comprehension 😂😂😂
@tomvarghesejoy9334
@tomvarghesejoy9334 16 күн бұрын
It's not lazy writing...y'all lack reading comprehension and blinded by bias that's it
@DominicAduGyamfi-pz5qi
@DominicAduGyamfi-pz5qi 16 күн бұрын
@@tomvarghesejoy9334 It's actually funny how delusional thier fanbase is
@kj_tricksta
@kj_tricksta 18 күн бұрын
They nerfed them on purpose for the next generation to shine which is bs
@_------------_
@_------------_ 17 күн бұрын
They were stealing the spotlight of every single fight.
@enma8441
@enma8441 18 күн бұрын
- Momoshiki never absorbed half of 9 tails. Nowhere is it stated how much chakra Momoshiki absorbed - rinnegan abilities dont cost Nowhere as much chakra as he made it seem. I mean Sasuke ran away from Kinshiki with space time while low on chakra and still had chakra. Sasuke literally finished fighting a war and still put 9 tailed beasts in chibaku tensei - Saying Naruto was on par with fused Momoshiki is like saying sage mode Naruto was on par with pain cos he landed blows on 5 paths with help. Same with Sasuke. Momoshiki choke slammed 9 tails and almost exploded Sasuke in the snakes - 9 tailed-beasts bombs would just get shrunk by Jigen/Isshiki or absorbed by Jigen/Momoshiki. Just a few things i managed to catch and didn't agree with
@Locky_Games
@Locky_Games 18 күн бұрын
I don't understand why you cherry-picked scenes from the anime and the manga when you felt like it. The manga clearly states that the cubes block sensory abilities, yet you don't show it and say how their sensory abilities got nerfed. Then you use an off-guard attack by Naruto hitting Isshiki and say it's "inconsistent" when it's an off-guard Isshiki. Also, I would like to correct that Naruto is not holding back in power, but holding back in destructive output. There are many more points I can respond to if you want, but these points in specific are built off of cherry-picking certain scenes.
@BreezyDylan
@BreezyDylan 17 күн бұрын
Where were these cubes in the Jigen battle? They literally showed up at the end of the fight
@Locky_Games
@Locky_Games 17 күн бұрын
@@BreezyDylan I'm talking about the Isshiki battle
@BreezyDylan
@BreezyDylan 17 күн бұрын
@Locky_Games Oh... So you admit that there is no good reason why Naruto wasn't able to sense Jigen during their battle and that it's inconsistent that he couldn't?🤔
@sylvanuskofi1952
@sylvanuskofi1952 17 күн бұрын
​@@BreezyDylanhow is it inconsistent when his cubes disrupts chakra sensing and he can erase his chakra signature?
@BreezyDylan
@BreezyDylan 17 күн бұрын
@sylvanuskofi1952 Maybe because the cubes weren't there to begin with during the whole battle with Jigen. Can you read? That's what I said the first time.
@sylvanuskofi1952
@sylvanuskofi1952 18 күн бұрын
There is nothing wrong with boruto , Naruto and Sasuke they got hard countered by gods and were outmatched simple as that stop whining its been what? 4 yrs 2025 and you're still doing this lol 😂
@itseokoro1944
@itseokoro1944 18 күн бұрын
Like bruh even till this day the cope is real.
@Dvsorbvdidb
@Dvsorbvdidb 20 күн бұрын
Also naruto using kcm+sage mode+six paths against a fodder like shin
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 20 күн бұрын
Yeah that was pretty dumb. Base Naruto would've easily been able to handle Shin
@Dvsorbvdidb
@Dvsorbvdidb 20 күн бұрын
@MrPizzaSUS not handle but Destroyyyy He wasn't even able to dodge sasukes sword coming at him He could easily tank a attack that can split the moon but a mere sword pierced through him Wowwww
@arimboualem1967
@arimboualem1967 19 күн бұрын
Why hé not use it? Like... If you have power use it
@Dvsorbvdidb
@Dvsorbvdidb 19 күн бұрын
@@arimboualem1967 it is unnesessery. It is like might guy using 8 gates against kid madara
@arimboualem1967
@arimboualem1967 19 күн бұрын
Hé fight a Guy who hé dont know all his ability and hé IS also rusty (Kurama said that, Sasuke even kill his performance trash) Also, 8 Gates is life and death situation, guy would use it a thé last hope, Naruto Can Do kcm+sage mode+six path in anytime hé wants without contrepart
@kylebot7716
@kylebot7716 17 күн бұрын
Don't think ive ever seen such a blasphemous use of comma(title).
@i.q.1979
@i.q.1979 16 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Jaythegoat_yt
@Jaythegoat_yt 18 күн бұрын
5:13 the rinnegan and karma seal can absorb senjutsu chakra and Naruto’s Rasengan was probably enhanced with 6 path senjutsu chakra
@gospelobianyo9045
@gospelobianyo9045 17 күн бұрын
And also, jigen would just shrink any of Naruto and Sasukes attacks easily, whether physical or Natural energy lol
@i.q.1979
@i.q.1979 16 күн бұрын
Jigen can only shrink himself, ot other people and/or things.
@gospelobianyo9045
@gospelobianyo9045 16 күн бұрын
@i.q.1979 he can only shrink himself and NON-Living things using sukunahikona
@i.q.1979
@i.q.1979 16 күн бұрын
@@gospelobianyo9045 No, that's Isshiki, not Jigen.
@gospelobianyo9045
@gospelobianyo9045 16 күн бұрын
@i.q.1979 😂😂😂😂, jigen is isshikis vessel, go read the manga to get clarity
@gospelobianyo9045
@gospelobianyo9045 16 күн бұрын
@i.q.1979 isshikis dwelled inside of jigens body and resurrected from jigens body when Kashin Koji killed him(jigen)
@KD35Champ24
@KD35Champ24 17 күн бұрын
And yes believe that Sasuke does turn off his sharingan. As he lowered his guard and not thinking about boruto. And at this moment he’s actively questioning Naruto about what he just saw. The main threat was isshiki and he’s been neutralized. Also sasuke has moments were he’s not using his sharingan in battle. He does this during the chunin exams with kinshiki in the manga and also during his fight with isshiki. As he stopped isshiki initial blitz attempt with his sword with no sharingan active. This is why I’m recommending you use the manga when providing evidence as the anime changes a lot of things during these battles whether it’s with statements or just what abilities characters use.
@i.q.1979
@i.q.1979 16 күн бұрын
But his Einnegan wasn't off. He can't turn it off. So just use the Rinnegan to defend yourself. Also, Boruto at that time was nowhere near Jigen's power level, so Sasuke should have been able to react to him just fine.
@KD35Champ24
@KD35Champ24 16 күн бұрын
@@i.q.1979who said anything about jigen? Also Jigen was blitzing Naruto and Sasuke while they were at full power and going all out so idk why this is relevant here.
@KD35Champ24
@KD35Champ24 16 күн бұрын
@@i.q.1979 and just because his rinnegan is constantly on doesn’t mean he’s actively using it. You’re basically saying he’s just waisting chakra just by walking around which is not true. And he specifically states that he’s using his sharingan to track isshiki movements, along with his rods. He does this in the fight with jigen. He’s actively tracking his movements with his sharingan.
@KD35Champ24
@KD35Champ24 16 күн бұрын
@@i.q.1979 and no sasuke could not have reacted in time because he’s weakened and badly injured at this moment. And like I said he was off guarded. There was no time to react. Lastly otsutsuki can hide there chakra presence and nobody can sense them unless it’s another otsutsuki. Otherwise sasuke would have sensed momoshiki presence which he’s shown to be able to do. He’s does this multiple times.
@J0ugan
@J0ugan 15 күн бұрын
​@@i.q.1979the rennegan is not the sharingan so he won't react as fast and only amenotejikara (the switching ability) is the most useful ability he can use against the Otsutsukis
@SkEi-y3b
@SkEi-y3b 19 күн бұрын
Sasuke couldn't feel momo trying to stab him because he vanished his chakra signature And he couldn't see him because he lost too much chakra In the anime you can see sasuke turning around but unable to dodge momo Either because sasuke was beaten up so much by ishiki or because momo is too fast It doesn't matter there is no problem here you are just bais to Naruto and sasuke The writers could have made ishiki and momo too much more powerful and have a counter to every jutsu they have without damaging the story And even of they didn't the fights was still logical and have nothing wrong in them you are just downplaying ishiki
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 19 күн бұрын
Once more I respect your opinion. However I will say I was not being biased. I was stating the many problems, and inconsistency with Naruto and Sasuke. Hence the video title.
@DominicAduGyamfi-pz5qi
@DominicAduGyamfi-pz5qi 18 күн бұрын
There is no problem with naruto and sasuke they were just outclassed by superior opponents who were kaguyas superiors or shibai enhanced individuals it is that simple it didn't ruin each of thier characters
@darthdawg1
@darthdawg1 18 күн бұрын
Around 6:00 the point about the karma not able to absorb nature attacks so naruto should’ve infused sage mode chakra into it. Your misunderstanding, the karma can’t absorb nature attacks that were created by the actual physical element itself, that was then amplified with chakra. Just infusing it with nature energy DOES NOT, make it the same.
@i.q.1979
@i.q.1979 16 күн бұрын
I don't get it
@khanisshow
@khanisshow 20 күн бұрын
So sad that they made narutos and sasukes teamwork useless! they used to be so diverse with their attacks
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 20 күн бұрын
Yeah no doubt about it. They barley work as a team in Boruto now
@PrimalIncentive
@PrimalIncentive 19 күн бұрын
​@@MrPizzaSUSWhat?💀
@sylvanuskofi1952
@sylvanuskofi1952 18 күн бұрын
​@@MrPizzaSUS😂😂this guy can't be real
@KD35Champ24
@KD35Champ24 17 күн бұрын
I’m commenting as I’m going back that Naruto attack on isshiki was an off guard feat so it doesn’t really mean much. As sasuke did the same to jigen when he arrived to fight with Naruto. Doesn’t really amount to anything or change scaling. The code thing was also red haired code and not white haired. Code with limiters is also weaker than jigen as well.
@BigMikasuki
@BigMikasuki 17 күн бұрын
I told Naruto if h showed his true power I would show up and stop him.
@i.q.1979
@i.q.1979 16 күн бұрын
😅😅😅😅😅😅
@LiktechTz
@LiktechTz 13 күн бұрын
Genjutsu in boruto just doesn't get used in major fights and where's naruto's yin-yang release and him being able to fly? They don't allow him to use those at all. With yin-yang release and sasuke's rinnegan we have creation of all things as we have seen them use jutsu together when releasing the infinite tsukuyomi
@bluestrike3390
@bluestrike3390 Күн бұрын
Bro three quarters of boruto were written by ikemoto not Kishimoto, yes Kishimoto ignores potential that characters have but ikemoto just straight up ignores what what both Naruto and Sasuke were capable of in shippuden and nerfed them
@thecollectorchildsoloyourf4150
@thecollectorchildsoloyourf4150 17 күн бұрын
Do you forget that the Otsutsuki has the abilities to completely erase their chakra and their presence so that no one can smell them, sense them and locate them. So Naruto wouldn't be able to sense Jigen and Isshiki. If Naruto and Sasuke gets low diff by Jigen and Isshiki it's simply bc the villain become more and more stronger. Isshiki is like putting Ssjgod Goku against Naruto and Sasuke lol
@Sangu-gh3
@Sangu-gh3 14 күн бұрын
Well, this is the problem with sequals. You need to find a balance of previous characters and introducing the new characters. A lot of writers tend to rush the powerlvl of their new protagonists and by doing this they either disrespect their former creations, because their story already was told to a massive extend, this creates several problems, wich can not be solved the easy way. In the case of Naruto, later on Boruto, these problems are on a whole another level, because the infinite goal of Naruto Shippuden is to tell us that real peace can be achieved, but Boruto shows us, that there always will be people, that trie to destroy that peace, so this creates a cycle of Generations who think they have beaten war and hate. In reality this message would be accurate, but it contradicts the whole purpose of Shippuden and at the same time it makes Boruto pointless, bc we saw Naruto achieving his goals only to realize that they never were or can be achieved as long as time, space and people do exist, so if Boruto achieves his goals and his lageacy is passed down the next generation after him, there still will be the same conflicts just with different characters and reasoning / setting. Shippuden stood for hope, friendship and peace, Boruto is here to get you back into reality. To me, as someone who raised with shippuden, it only teaches me one thing - as long as life does exist, there will be conflicts. So I come to the conclusion, that Madara was right in the first place, Naruto never should have won, they should have stayed all in the endless tsukyiomi, if there was no "kaguya" plottwist. Since there is the kaguya/zetsu plottwist, only madaras idea were right, but he was fooled himself, since all that would have happened if kaguya werent sealed by naruto and sasuke is, that those otsutsuki would have come anyway and fight against kaguya. So there is no choice. Does not matter if you accept it or not, life is, always was and ever will be nothing but a conflict, even if you succeed in your agendas. Not even in fiction we let real peace come true, and there are people that think, that humans are not a race of war? You know what peace is? Peace is a small amount of time that passes until the next war begins.
@Youngflynsaved7
@Youngflynsaved7 19 күн бұрын
This video exposed the trash of the Boruto writing . I agree 1000% with you . The writing is incredibly inconsistent making Naruto and sauske nefered to what they desire and everything not making sense . Those examples you provided were legit . These writers really ruined the Naruto and Sauske franchise . On top of all these inconsistencies in writing and logic within the anime , they also failed to provide good quality to the anime which is why they are on this BS break . Boruto started in 2016 or 2017 and it’s 2025 and they need a 3 year break to fix things within the anime and quality ? Make that make sense , cuz it really doesn’t . This is exactly why people stoped watching Boruto or gave up on this anime cuz it’s trash . I’ve decided to drop this shit for good . Thanks for this video . Hopefully others will open their eyes too .
@js2003
@js2003 18 күн бұрын
You haven’t even read Boruto by this comment alone…Naruto and Sasuke are considered “nerfed” because they lost a fight to an enemy who literally counters all of their abilities. Those are the same two people who had to seal Kaguya away because they couldn’t beat her with brute force
@Youngflynsaved7
@Youngflynsaved7 18 күн бұрын
@@js2003 And it's not that they have to win every battle but Naruto and sauske have so much from their arsenal that they used before in previous battles but not in Boruto for example , Naruto not being able to sense jigen 🤣 like it’s ridiculous . So your telling me he can sense Madaras clones that he couldn’t see and counterattack them , but not jigen or ishiki that he could see . TFOH . You don’t know what you’re talking about . This video was the perfect example as to why ppl no longer want anything to do with boruto. And to be frank l'd say Naruto really ended in shipuden
@js2003
@js2003 18 күн бұрын
@@Youngflynsaved7 Jigen is an Otsutsuki who is able to erase his chakra so they can’t sense him.Kaguya was also able to erase her chakra which is why she was able to sneak behind them.
@Youngflynsaved7
@Youngflynsaved7 18 күн бұрын
@js2003 ok so this is the perfect example as to why the writing is terrible ok let’s say that or otosutsukis are able to “ mask their chakra” which we’ve seen before . Your saying Naruto couldn’t sense jigen cuz he was an otosutsuki . Jigen had an otosutsuki inside of him he was not an otosutsuki he was a vessel for Ishiki otosutsuki . And second tell me this , how come naruto couldn’t sense it but sauske did ? In boruto Sauske was able to sense momoshiki inside of boruto after he lost his rinnegon this was before kawaki sealed away Naruto and after Hinata boruto’s mother sensed something terrible was gunna happen which she was absolutely right about
@sylvanuskofi1952
@sylvanuskofi1952 18 күн бұрын
​@@Youngflynsaved7Sasuke can see chakra with his sharigan same way he saw chakra colours of diedaras bombs that's why In the fight Sasuke asked Naruto to buy him time so he can figure him out it's literally said there 😂
@ProHero86
@ProHero86 18 күн бұрын
Damn actually those are some good points, I’ll never forgive them for killing Kurama to give his daughter a power up
@majinblussb
@majinblussb 18 күн бұрын
If we're going by your examples, then the only way to prove that they are not indeed nerfed is to have the writers write them in such a way that utilizes all of their abilities and still lose to Jigen. I think the root of the problem isn't that they lost, but they lost without using the full extent of their abilities and that's where the frustrations come from. Just saying. Honestly, I don't think you would complain if that was the case as in your opinion it would establish the villains in Boruto pre-TBV as the real deal, rather than something Naruto and Sasuke should've taken care of at a much better fashion. That's why I was mad when the story turned out the way it did but TBV establishing proper reasons and plot points from earlier in the series I can forgive this.
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 18 күн бұрын
TBV does in many ways at least try to fix some of the writing issues.
@n1k0l4y4
@n1k0l4y4 17 күн бұрын
5:57 MASSIVE?
@Concussion.vready
@Concussion.vready 17 күн бұрын
Massive
@SkEi-y3b
@SkEi-y3b 19 күн бұрын
Again jigen is too fast for Naruto to use that jutsu on him If you are saying that a jutsu worked on pain can work on ishiki then you must be joking Jigen was too fast and too strong for them and can absorb and shrink jutsu so nothing will work
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 19 күн бұрын
Sorry, but not joking. There's no doubt frog kata would've worked. It would've worked on anyone which explains why he only used it once against pain. the writers know how op it is.
@SkEi-y3b
@SkEi-y3b 19 күн бұрын
@MrPizzaSUS or maybe he stopped using it after he realised some kind of issues with it Either ways a jutsu used by teen Naruto is nothing compared to a clan that creates and destroy planets with ease It would have been a joke if they made him win like that
@J0ugan
@J0ugan 15 күн бұрын
​@@MrPizzaSUSOtsutsukis can sense chakra at a higher level than Pain and Naruto would have to leave his clones while fighting which Jigen can counter with shooting rods at them
@-glitchhand-1897
@-glitchhand-1897 17 күн бұрын
simple...the show called Boruto... it's just bad writing not gonna lie🤣
@sylvanuskofi1952
@sylvanuskofi1952 17 күн бұрын
Bad writing you know this video is satire and clearly wrong right? Oh you don't know cause you don't read it yet want to talk about it like this dude
@possiblymisha
@possiblymisha 19 күн бұрын
I agree with a lot but the Sasuke vs Code is misconstrued. Code is shown to play with his food. That's likely what afforded Sasuke the chance to cut an eye. Sasuke makes it very clear that (even with backup from Boruto), they CANNOT defeat Code. Sasuke is still incredibly powerfult without the rinnegan but he is NOT on par with limitless code unless you want to take the scene with no real thought. All that being said, I don't think Jigen beating them would be so bad with we actually saw Naruto and Sasuke try. The fight had so much potential that was simply squandered. And yes, Sasuke's chakra is whatever the plot demands.
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 19 күн бұрын
Code overall is very tricky to scale in general. Because he also suffers from the bad writing. But yeah Naruto and Sasuke vs Jigen did have potential. Jigen just isn't stronger than them. Like if he went back and fought Naruto and Sasuke at the end of the war when they were fighting at their full potential then he'd be getting demolished. Jigen's ability is just simple, easily broken down by Sasuke, it's not even really hax. Plus Jigen isn't a perfect vessel for Isshiki like Kawaki is, so he can't even use Isshiki's eye.
@PrimalIncentive
@PrimalIncentive 19 күн бұрын
​@MrPizzaSUS Code being dumb isn't bad writing, that's literally just his character
@J0ugan
@J0ugan 15 күн бұрын
​@@MrPizzaSUSit's a character flaw that Code has and Code's karma can't have Jigen's experience because it's defective
@xxxGadDslayer
@xxxGadDslayer 19 күн бұрын
The show is Boruto for a reason
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 19 күн бұрын
I mean yes, but that doesn't mean there isn't issues with characters
@gospelobianyo9045
@gospelobianyo9045 17 күн бұрын
@@MrPizzaSUS bro, there are issues with every show, not everything is perfect
@BreezyDylan
@BreezyDylan 17 күн бұрын
@gospelobianyo9045 Okay? And? Its just supposed to stay stupid, and they shouldn't try to better the show?
@gospelobianyo9045
@gospelobianyo9045 17 күн бұрын
@@BreezyDylan 🤦, I said every show has imperfections, and even there some of the things he mentioned aren't even true, like karma not being able to absorb nature based attacks that are molded by chakra, and what exactly are you going to do to make better something that has already been animated? No offense but I expect you to think better man
@BreezyDylan
@BreezyDylan 17 күн бұрын
@gospelbianyo9045 No, I think you need to think better cause I'm talking about the writing.
@XAsh_black
@XAsh_black 15 күн бұрын
This happens when yall dont pay attention to the story and make up your own inconsistencies. The otsutsukis basically counter jutsu as they can just absorb it easily. Frog kumite wont as naruto in a superior sage mode (so6p mode ) couldn't do anything. They arent nerfed, they are just fighting people that make kaguya look like little girl. Put these naruto and sasuke in the war arc and they'll one shot everyone there individually
@RohitSurampudi
@RohitSurampudi 20 күн бұрын
They got washed my jigen, our goats are not mcs with plot armour anymoree
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 20 күн бұрын
True sadness
@not_ali5690
@not_ali5690 16 күн бұрын
sasukes couldn't sense borushiki because otsutsukis can very well erase chakra signature, genjutsu wouldnt be very effective against a powerful otsutsuki. The Otsutsuki posse incredibly strong chakra control and sensory abilities. They might recognize and dispel genjutsu more easily than others. What makes you think a worn out sasuke can do anything to an otsutsuki? You're also assuming that every character is using their full power, aswell as characters being distracted, overwhelmed or focusing on a larger agenda. Not every character always has their guard up, not every character is willing to engage in conflict and not every character prioritizes defense. Battles in the Naruto have alway been about strategy and exploiting moments of distraction or weakness. You're only taking into account the raw power, for example sasuke's rinnegan stab - timing, deception, and exploiting openings matter.
@albertoalves1063
@albertoalves1063 19 күн бұрын
This is my problem with Boruto, they outta nowhere made Naruto and Sasuke trash while outta nowhere Boruto and his friends became gods at 12 years old, that doesn't make any sense even though Naruto and Sasuke became gods at 16, they still trained for over a decade and somehow didn't got any stronger since they didn't got any new powers and also stop use powers they had, Naruto should be a pseudo jubi by using all bijuus and stack sage mode, six path and training, Sasuke should be able to use all paths of the rinnegan, but no, they don't use none of what they have just to make Boruto be able to fight
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 19 күн бұрын
100% agreed. You nailed it spot on
@PrimalIncentive
@PrimalIncentive 19 күн бұрын
Naruto and Sasuke beat most of their enemies in Boruto, they aren't trash and neither were the kids gods at 12
@micahltaylor739
@micahltaylor739 17 күн бұрын
What Borito isnt a god level threat till part 2 lol. But Naruto and sasuke were gods by what 17 lol
@J0ugan
@J0ugan 15 күн бұрын
Boruto is the only one that's stronger than Naruto and Sasuke and that timeskip Boruto
@J0ugan
@J0ugan 15 күн бұрын
And remember what Kakashi said, the next generation is always stronger than the last
@LuciferArc1
@LuciferArc1 20 күн бұрын
The sasuke slicing the horn isnt much of a feat and ill explain why. Weapons in naruto neg durability unless they have physical buffs that enhance their actual physical body. Every character without thoae properties dodges weapons or is cut by them. Minato slice juubito in base. Natural elements and physical objects bypass durability cause chakra only negs or reduces the potency of other chakra based attacks. Its kinda dumb but thats just how it works
@spartagaming6210
@spartagaming6210 20 күн бұрын
When does Minato slice juubito in base?
@LuciferArc1
@LuciferArc1 20 күн бұрын
@spartagaming6210 when it's revealed to him he's obito
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 20 күн бұрын
Thanks for the clarification there. Yeah it's a pretty strange system at times.
@spartagaming6210
@spartagaming6210 20 күн бұрын
@LuciferArc1 that's not juubito that's white mask obito or rinnegan obito
@LuciferArc1
@LuciferArc1 20 күн бұрын
@spartagaming6210 still sliced him. Madara pierced Sasuke with the sword
@onyx6774
@onyx6774 18 күн бұрын
Interesting enough, after Classic Naruto the sharingan never copied anything again for some reason.
@itseokoro1944
@itseokoro1944 18 күн бұрын
So sharingan can copy shinjustsu??? That sasuke can't comprehend.
@onyx6774
@onyx6774 18 күн бұрын
@itseokoro1944 Did He do this in Boruto? In Shippuden He nerver copied anything, not even Kakashi which ironically enough was known for copying them. They even changed his nickname in Shippuden
@itseokoro1944
@itseokoro1944 18 күн бұрын
@@onyx6774 I said shinjustsu not copying jutsu in Shippuden that required the kekkai genkai plus that's kishimoto and it's not like the way I think it is for example hidan forbidden justsu while he can copy it the sharingan drain and requirements for the jutsu still apply and same goes for kakazu so 🤷
@itseokoro1944
@itseokoro1944 18 күн бұрын
@@onyx6774 the sharingan can't copy shinjustsu the copy wheel eye is no where near that powerful and these powers follow a heriachy system from Shinto buddishim and daousim Japanese folklore I.e the cycle of samsara and the the shinjustsu in boruto and beyond that hence the kokugan isshikis right eye that has the powers of sukunahinkona and daikokutan are incomprehensible to sasuke as well as reflection and omnipotence which is literally the power of creation.
@onyx6774
@onyx6774 18 күн бұрын
​@@itseokoro1944 I saying that In shippuden sasuke never did it not even Kakashi which is known for his Copying abilities (They even changed his nickname in Shippuden for some reason). So I assume In Shippuden they retconed it for some reason. If Sasuke or any Uchiha in general copied something in Boruto, Im not aware because I don't read it and im not planning on doing so.
@KD35Champ24
@KD35Champ24 17 күн бұрын
Ummm bro just for future reference use the manga when providing your evidence. The anime is secondary canon. Also Naruto is using SO6P mode in every boruto fight. The indicator is no pigmentation around the eyes. Also another thing. Naruto couldn’t sense isshiki because the cubes blocked his sensory abilities. This is why you need to use the manga. In the Anime this is not stated. He just says he lost sight of him. Sasuke was the only one who could really track his shrinking abilities and rods. Although it was barely. Lastly when the cubes happen Naruto is in base for a moment but says he cannot sense chakra. So even if he was using his 6 path sensory it would have been useless as the cubes block chakra sensory.
@i.q.1979
@i.q.1979 16 күн бұрын
Naruto with 6PSM (6 Paths Sage Mode) can sense beings in other dimensions. Remember Madara's limbo clones? That same Naruto cannot sense someone because of CUBES?!! 😂😂😂😂😂
@KD35Champ24
@KD35Champ24 16 күн бұрын
@@i.q.1979 yeah bro pretty much haha, it’s not that his sensory was trash, it’s just the cubes countered sensory abilities.
@i.q.1979
@i.q.1979 16 күн бұрын
@@KD35Champ24 So why not sense AROUND the cubes?
@KD35Champ24
@KD35Champ24 16 күн бұрын
@@i.q.1979 he tried to do that. While he was between the cubes. Sasuke,isshiki and boruto were no longer near them. It still wouldn’t have mattered. As long as he was surrounded or near those cubes, they still would’ve disrupted his sensory. But once he clears them, then he was able to find isshiki again. The cubes were also pretty big as well and there was quite a few of them.
@i.q.1979
@i.q.1979 16 күн бұрын
@@KD35Champ24 Being near a cube and not being able to sense it makes no sense. If the others were far away, sure. That works. Using their size as an excuse also doesn't make sense. That's just a stupid nerf. They were always going to lose, so nerf his sensory capabilities was pathetic and unnecessary.
@miggyalcomendras8468
@miggyalcomendras8468 19 күн бұрын
Make a review on Code's scaling pls, I'm interested on your view on where you scale code.
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 19 күн бұрын
I like the video idea. I'll dig into that.
@itseokoro1944
@itseokoro1944 19 күн бұрын
​@@MrPizzaSUSI'm just going to say read the manga and don't go off the anime the momoshiki fight was kishimotos doing but the jigen and isshiki fight requires u to understand his powers which u seemingly just don't asking questions like why isn't he using this variant of the rasengan or the other or boil release I'll ask u if u understand anything about karma and then I'm seeing code scaling do u even know how boruto scales at all??
@DrkSoulzyt
@DrkSoulzyt 17 күн бұрын
basically boruto writes dont like naruto and sasuke made them weak so they will be irrelevant to the story constantly forget that both characters have stuff to counter all of their villains. shit writing imo
@ghoulex642
@ghoulex642 17 күн бұрын
Your father would pull out a belt seeing this comment. You're so wrong it's not even funny 😂😂😂
@sylvanuskofi1952
@sylvanuskofi1952 17 күн бұрын
They don't care about them yet made them win against Momoshiki okay 😂
@DrkSoulzyt
@DrkSoulzyt 16 күн бұрын
@@sylvanuskofi1952 i mean they are stornger than momoshiki ofc. but thats not the point bro sasuke and naruto was struggling against shin uchiha 😭like bruh.
@sylvanuskofi1952
@sylvanuskofi1952 16 күн бұрын
@@DrkSoulzyt they weren't struggling they were Investigating if they wanted to kill it will be fast the story made that clear lol
@J0ugan
@J0ugan 15 күн бұрын
Or the villains were getting stronger and it's a story Boruto and the next generation
@jessemann3020
@jessemann3020 19 күн бұрын
I still don't think they would win against jigen but they wouldn't have gotten bodied like they did
@killakame-3434
@killakame-3434 18 күн бұрын
Your Video is in 720p :)
@sylvanuskofi1952
@sylvanuskofi1952 18 күн бұрын
There is nothing wrong with boruto they got hard countered by gods and were outmatched simple as that stop whining its been what? 4 yrs 2025 and you're still doing this lol 😂
@kamsjams8677
@kamsjams8677 16 күн бұрын
it’s criticism
@retrox2776
@retrox2776 19 күн бұрын
I'm probably ignorant But i find it funny that a villain (Madara) was introduced and then deemed too powerful to be defeated normally so a backdoor had to be created Then we're in Boruto with people that can absolutely wash Madara Maybe they couldve done a JoJo thing where the future generation can be weaker than the previous but still be engaging
@arimboualem1967
@arimboualem1967 19 күн бұрын
In jojo, they are still powercliff, part 1 MC
@retrox2776
@retrox2776 19 күн бұрын
@arimboualem1967 yeah idk personally, thanks for the info if correct 👍🏽
@starboys3407
@starboys3407 18 күн бұрын
Thing is that's not why kishi introduced Kaguya,he just wanted the story to progress that way.Nevertheless Madara was a better villain than these aliens.
@J0ugan
@J0ugan 15 күн бұрын
It would make sense for the next generation to be weaker than the previous because how can Boruto an average shinobi and any age 😂
@lilchad_hd
@lilchad_hd 16 күн бұрын
How can sasuke use genjutsu or copy shinjutsu?
@EverythingAnimePodcast
@EverythingAnimePodcast 17 күн бұрын
They made them both cannon fodder
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@_------------_ 17 күн бұрын
Like they don't stomp everyone in shippuden
@EverythingAnimePodcast
@EverythingAnimePodcast 17 күн бұрын
@ we are talking about Boruto… Boruto made them cannon fodder
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@_------------_ 17 күн бұрын
@@EverythingAnimePodcast They look fodder because the villains are just stronger than them. But in reality they are stronger than anyone in shippuden.
@EverythingAnimePodcast
@EverythingAnimePodcast 17 күн бұрын
@ this is not shippuuden….
@EverythingAnimePodcast
@EverythingAnimePodcast 17 күн бұрын
@ also the Boruto villains are the worst anime troupes I have ever seen.
@JoelAngelo-x3m
@JoelAngelo-x3m 21 күн бұрын
And now sasuke is probaly stronger because naruto lost kurama
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 21 күн бұрын
That has been a very popular debate after they got nerfed.
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@_------------_ 17 күн бұрын
Sasuke was defeated and tired from isshiki so he didn't see borushiki coming. Which he can also erased his chackra signature.
@i.q.1979
@i.q.1979 16 күн бұрын
But Naruto could. Naruto was facing that direction. So he should have seen him. Maybe Kawaki as well. Also, Sasuke's Rinnegan has counters for that specific situation. Remember Shinra Tensei?
@DominicAduGyamfi-pz5qi
@DominicAduGyamfi-pz5qi 16 күн бұрын
@i.q.1979 sasuke was low on chackra after his battle with isshiki plus everyone was focused on narutos health after he used his baryon mode which was the perfect opportunity for momo to strike
@i.q.1979
@i.q.1979 16 күн бұрын
@DominicAduGyamfi-pz5qi But Sauke SAW Boruto. And, being low on chakra doesn't he was out of chakra. Second, he still had enough chakra to engage in battle with him a few minutes later. He should have sacrificed what he had left, and waited until his chakra came back, so he can take everyone home. Or, use the Shinra Tensei, then fight and defeat Boruto, and wait till Boruto himself wakes up, so he can use the Karma seal to take everyone home.
@DominicAduGyamfi-pz5qi
@DominicAduGyamfi-pz5qi 16 күн бұрын
@i.q.1979 sasuke was just after a battle he he barely survived and his attention was focused on naruto boruto had all his bones broken at that that time so how would he suspect that momoshiki would take over and stab his eye Sasuke himself was very badly bruised
@J0ugan
@J0ugan 15 күн бұрын
​@@i.q.1979Naruto was exhausted fighting Isshiki and their guard was down
@Spedupfreddy
@Spedupfreddy 18 күн бұрын
I think the writers either forgot all their abilities or were just mad lazy to write creative fights
@sethtone8634
@sethtone8634 19 күн бұрын
Sasuke always running out of chakra when fighting made zero sense..... in the fight with Naruto he drains the nine tails chakra instantly......and he was new to using his eye..... i forgot what path that is........All you have to do is look at when Pain was reanimated lol he almost killed Bee and Naruto..
@sylvanuskofi1952
@sylvanuskofi1952 18 күн бұрын
Yh he didn't those happened in fillers
@DominicAduGyamfi-pz5qi
@DominicAduGyamfi-pz5qi 17 күн бұрын
Please show us when sasuke said he was running out of chackra
@ss-indra9596
@ss-indra9596 15 күн бұрын
I mean Naruto doesn’t have the ability to tap into the same six path mode he used in the war arc & Sasuke using genjutsu ona otsutsuki is just pointless. On top of tht the 2 of them were gonna get surpassed regardless, with the new otsutsuki bringing in new mechanics tht we’ve never seen, plus the robots Amado built using Shibai’s dna it was only a matter of time before the 2 of them got left in the dust. The new generation is supposed to be stronger than their elders. A lot of the hate Boruto receives is from biased Naruto fans tht refuse to actually try to enjoy it. Everyone bringing up the filler episodes you can jus read the manga & you wnt have to worry about them. Boruto’s story is actually extremely intriguing & well written even before Eida shows up, & now with two blue vortex it’s getting even better. I understand if people dnt like the show for personal reasons but tht doesn’t mean it isn’t good. Perfect example is me hating one piece bc of the art style, it might be a good show but I jus can’t get with it,
@mystatnight
@mystatnight 18 күн бұрын
The Jigen fight was straight garbage in writing like Jigen isnt doing shit to them and Isshiki winning was straight bs, Sasuke wasnt using Rinnegan to its fp nor was Naruto looked like fighting in fp bruh the nerf is crazy
@sylvanuskofi1952
@sylvanuskofi1952 17 күн бұрын
Oh no straight bs cause they didn't waste time doing useless and unproductive things oh no they aren't kids anymore 😢
@J0ugan
@J0ugan 15 күн бұрын
What would've Naruto and Sasuke done to win the fight against Jigen ?
@tomvarghesejoy9334
@tomvarghesejoy9334 16 күн бұрын
Just check "naruto explained" vedios...on why naruto and sasuke arent not even overwhelming jigen/ishikki.... Iv got tired explaining to ppl like u for now almost 4 years+....ishikki is charcter built directly to counter Naruto and sasuke...jigen is not getting cooked in anyways...he is purposely built that way....all theur jutsus are meant to countered by jigen/ishikki.... Boruto in comparison to naruto doesnt spoon feed the shit out,and ofc the bias keeps one blinded... About sasuke loosing his rinnegan eida explains otsuski has the ability to hide their presence+ sasuke was already drained by the fighting ishikki but the major point here being his chakra being drained by ishikki's rods
@adarshko
@adarshko 19 күн бұрын
Where is Naruto ashura mode i mean Naruto never use sage mode of kurama mode thats dispoint
@lorysart
@lorysart 17 күн бұрын
this is why kaguya and the whole boruto series is non-cannon.
@SkEi-y3b
@SkEi-y3b 19 күн бұрын
Naruto used clones and jegin solos them wtf
@MrPizzaSUS
@MrPizzaSUS 19 күн бұрын
Yes, but so does every other opponent he faces. Most of them get far to overwhelmed due to the sheer amount he can make
@shanepoole527
@shanepoole527 18 күн бұрын
I feel like Boruto even though I haven't seen a lot of it just from what I've heard probably suffers from the same lack of writing and consistency as the New Age of Dragon Ball does is this horrible writing an inconsistency. I mean Sasuke in a way should be even more broken than Naruto because not only does he possess Rinnegan that can control the tailed beast but it was clearly seen during the fight that Sasuke had with Naruto Sasuke was absorbing Naruto's energy through his fist into Naruto stomach then there's the fact that by all accounts Sasuke should have some of the tailed beast energy deeper within him I mean after all when he was fighting Naruto at the end of Shippuden he absorbed a lot of the tailed beast chakra into his susanoo so by all accounts Sasuke should be somewhat of a jinchuriki himself. In killing off the nine tails within Naruto man that was just pushing it too far and taking Sasuke's Rinnegan that was just Overkill.
@sylvanuskofi1952
@sylvanuskofi1952 17 күн бұрын
Yh boruto doesn't suffer from any of these stop talking already
@S.Koushikk
@S.Koushikk 16 күн бұрын
Sasuke cannot use copy technique because they is not jutsu in boruto that he can copy easily they are fighting against cyborgs otsutsukhis that use different abilities that cannot be copied and also sasuke cannot use genjutsu because it doesn't fit his fighting style and also otsutsukhi are too powerful to be caught under genjutsu
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