The Problem with Overwatch 2...

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[@extol1290]

This guy is really angry and it’s over a lot of make-believe issues. Yes the game has problems but the content they deliver is never the issue. Overwatch content itself is fantastic, the maps, heroes and skins are always a hit. The way they choose ti implement balance changes and new gamemodes are what make it frustrating.

[@teencorn9169]

Yeah but it sounds like for him the main issue with the game is lack of content. He’s complaining about a new hero not being realized a month after Venture 😅 Which is completely alien to me. For ppl like me and u the balance and feeling of the game is most important. He just prioritizes something else and that’s fine

[@extol1290]

@@teencorn9169 I get that it may be a matter of priorities or preferences. But if we had a new hero every month and a new map along with them the game would get bloated quickly and balance would be even harder. The game has to cater to all it’s audiences.

[@teencorn9169]

@@extol1290 Agreed it would be even more terrible for the game. But was interesting to hear the CC’s take. Never heard it before lol

[@mahmoudsalem9796]

i main tank and my queue is 10 sec to 30 sec ! this is alone can tell you how many problems tank role has ! the hyper focus we got every cd and every ult is going on tank btw tank pickrate this season is 10% this is why you have long queue in dps or supports roles

[@Nemo.404]

That's why I believe tank should have resistances against all cc, that won't make them a raid boss, it won't raise their strength, but if we're gonna have 5v5, then tanks should have those resistances and I believe it will make it way better without breaking the role

[@JojoEditor1970]

20 minute queue? It takes 4 minutes tops for dps on quickplay.

[@tethu1740]

they literally gave us a map this season???

[@camera-is-me2606]

Game development takes time. If we got new content every month, it’s not going to be good content. Its a balance of quantity and quality. I have my issues with the game but i still think its fun, and that the new content they have each season is good.

[@portia2374]

Can you make a top 500 mercy vid

[@sparquisdesade]

Yeah, I'm in mid Bronze an even my QP games queue times are around 10 minutes with every other game being backfill right into a loss. I jus can't do it anymore. If we apparently got 100mil players, then why are queue times so bad

[@sparquisdesade]

Oh also a point I don't see brought up at all when it comes to 6v6 and having two tanks vs now. Switching to one tank ruined more than game mechanics an balancing, it ruined the community. Before on a team no matter how you did, you had someone else in your role who you could learn from, teach stuff to, co-op with, kinships were formed, teams felt like...teams. Now it's all a blame game. Anyways, if you haven't yet tried out The Finals you should give it a shot. It's a class shooter a lot like OW but you build and customize your class. Season 3 jus came out an they added in a bunch of weapons/abilities OW players will recognize. Like Roadhog hook, genji deflect an hanzo bow/arrow. But it's actually not oppressive, plus it's fun to run a healer/support using genji deflect and bunch of landmines. Not to glaze it too hard, but it says somethin about the game when they manage to make their version of OW's Push mode so fun I've spent 30 hours on just that mode this week.

[@extol1290]

@@sparquisdesadeIf you actually played Overwatch 1 you’d know people have been blaming their teammates forever. I don’t think i’ve ever learned from the other dps or support on my team. All your learning is from self reflecting or vod review.

[@thelukos]

I personally don’t care about the slow rate of new maps. What I do care about is smurfs ruining the game. I can go on a good run and maybe rank up. Once I have, I don’t really want to play the game anymore. If I land on a night where every game is vs a Smurf team or I have leavers, then losing my rank is out of my control. And to pre empt the “Git gud” trolls, even if I match the skill level of the enemy team, my entire team won’t. Therefore it is out of my control. This has never been addressed. Blizzard are totally aware of alt accounts but don’t seem to care. Being dumped on by people that don’t want to play their own rank is no fun at all

[@dylanvela9477]

No the problem is the game has been out for 8 years and every game gets old after a while

[@2cool4Upanther]

it has been out for 1 year

[@Nemo.404]

​@@2cool4Upanther it's basically the same as overwatch 1, so that's why they're saying 8 years. And this one is almost 2 years old

[@jeanpaulgouacide5445]

I've only hop on play two matches then play something else lol there are better games than overwatch

[@yalpus]

relatable

[@TigerBlood-m4b]

They just added a new map for the latest gamemode in the update youre playing lmao They also have added like 2 or 3 gamemodes since the launch of ow2, and multiple maps, they just showcased a new gamemode called clash last season thatll frop next season... youre kinda out of line on this one pal. As for the toxicity, thats always existed in overwatch because the game is so dam uneven, you got heros like moira who are the equivalent of stunting out at 5"5 and being perpetually upset youre short because they cant climb out of low ranks, while the other side is just sweating their asses off to compete with cassidy and other heros who just have multiple live buttons and sustain, which is why they gotta smooth the skill curve of heros if they ever wanna being that down, so when you die you cant just blame the sombra whos sitting invis in the corner ready to auto aim crowd control your ass every team fight because thats the major driving force for this games toxicity over other games as every game has a base level of it. But i get what you mean, i think the main issue is the heros have mostly been lame, like illari is just ashe with an even more boring ability cause its a turret, mauga is just roadhogs playstyle but somehow less mechanical and less brain power needed to survive as you dont even have to use an ability to sustain youself, venture is fun but like most mobile heros shes absolutely dumspered by any cc in the game like Cassidy or sombra which will always make this game less fun, kiri is just watered down genji as a support with to many auto live button's, and queen is if you were to put hog onna diet and gave him an axe instead of his old alt fire, soj is your generic shooter sliding character like the evolved version of soldier, so the only one i find myself grinding is venture, the rest feel as thought they came preinstalled in my brain with how to play them because theyre all so generic, and thats what keeps people playing is needing to master something like genji, echo or doomfist, or even stuff like sym or mei were unique without being ridiculously high demand but illari and mauga killed the hype for alot of people as they really are about as basic as it gets. Like wheres the new creative designs? I hope spaceranger is better but these boring ass heros are not what this game needs, also while theyre adding more maps, i think the reason you dont care much is because we just all like payload, they gotra drop more payload maps as theyre just what allow overwatch to express all its best attributes. But hope you goodluck in fragpunk, perosnally i think that game looks lame asf, most the characters got the same ability you slap on the ground to deal dmg, it only has like 8 heros on launch and somehow they all share similar abilities like one chick turns into a scorpion and another goes invis, and am i wrong to feel those are two similar to each other for a cast of 8 characters? Also the games not fresh its based of a game called friends vs friends which honestly had more personality to it so i rather go back and play that than this valorant version.

[@ChrisLudovici]

I didn't see the new added map until now, I'm not gonna congratulate them on that since it took them MONTHS to come out with another map and the new modes you are talking about are never gonna get played unless it's in competitive idk if clash is or not, I truly don't think I am out of line with this one pal. I just can't wrap my brain around how anyone can be excited about new modes and 1 new map after months and months of waiting for something new the same seasons over and over while the game is literally a RESKIN of OW1, I think my point stands lmao. Toxicity will always be in the game, with all the terrible balances that the company does it'll never leave. The hero's got decent abilities I feel, just they release them so slow so the game stays stale same thing with everything blizzard does they are KNOWN for releasing updates like a turtle with OW. Yeah they don't ever do anything really innovative anymore, they lost so much money with this game and will continue to lose money because the company has shifted so many developers from this game onto others since they got sued by all the competitive orgs over OWL in the past ( I even talked to some former OWL players since I've been playing since beta so I know some of them personally, they same the same thing, the game is a reskin, hasn't been the same since OW1, it's always been on a decline and feels like a cash grab, and the community is so gullible to accept ANY updates to a reskin game, everyone is hoping to get that OW1 feeling back unless you are new and never experience those feelings ) That's just some comments from the former OWL players I stoke with before about this subject, the new maps have been awful, everyone literally likes maybe 1 or two maps then the rest no one likes lol, yeah they could drop more payload maps but idk if it'll even bring me back to this game, there is so much wrong with it, I mean honestly changing a DPS hero into a tank hero randomly just shows how the company doesn't know what to do. Thanks for the comment, ehh everyone has their own opinion so I won't argue with you about that, I think FragPunk overall has a unique twist to the FPS genre with the card system and just how the game looks, it feels good, the art direction is great, as for the characters there were 10 characters in the beta and no one knows how many will be at launch so possibly more, I'm guessing you didn't play the beta but the abilities were pretty different actually, wasn't just damage abilities, I can argue how basically every ability is dmg focused in OW lol, every game is gonna have similar abilities if it's a team shooter with them, you can't really do that much to change it up, it's based on the characters in game lore and that changes the direction with the abilities plus everything has been done at least once already but they are trying, I think the game is pretty fresh friends vs friends just had a card system with no lore random animal characters and wasn't a true competitive shooter type game, I wouldn't even put that on the same radar as FragPunk or any other AAA game, only thing they had similar was using cards that's it, same thing how valorant and CS has a search and destroy mode, same as COD, Overwatch has control point mode same as domination in COD you can keep going on and on about that lol, yeah it's going by Valorant but it's a better version of Valorant IMO, feels more arcady tho like COD plus with abilities like OW and Val, I truly think once FRagPunk and these other new titles release, Overwatch will be at it's all time low of concurrent players and it'll slowly die out unless they drastically change the game, but they won't be doing that anytime soon. Overwatch is in a all time LOSS stated by Blizzard, I doubt it has much longer to survive, only thing keeping it alive is because there isn't any other games out right now to play and enjoy plus it's free to play, but once those games come out like Black Ops 6, FragPunk, Condor ect, this game will be struggling, which is sad because I used to love Overwatch 1. Also I'ma just throw this in there as well, I'm NOT the only one thinking about how bad OW is right now, I mean if you go on steam and read the Overwhelmingly Negative reviews you'll find out how it's literally like a Overwatch 0.1 nothing has changed since this number 2 game came out, same stale game over and over.

[@extol1290]

@@ChrisLudoviciWhat do you mean it took months for a new map? Is that supposed to be a complaint? The release window for content is far from a problem in overwatch. We just got a new hero last season along and this month we got runasapi. Before venture we got samoa and mauga at the same time. Not to mention we got *2* maps for a new mode flashpoint at the same time. *You actually are a bit out of line I hate to say.* Hope you enjoy your other games!

[@extol1290]

@@ChrisLudoviciActually it’s not overwhelmingly negative steam reviews anymore. If you look at the recent ones they’re positive! TF2 is going through a bigger crisis than overwatch.

[@paulnyarko3057]

​@@extol1290 stop meat riding overwatch damn