The Problem With Police Training (Or Why Joe Biden Is Wrong About Police Reform)

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Kay And Skittles

Kay And Skittles

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@donteatthemeatloaf
@donteatthemeatloaf 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing how quickly cops are dulled from feeling empathy is terrifying. 'Oh its just a homeless person/drug addict/gangster'. THATS A PERSON.
@Fafnd
@Fafnd 2 жыл бұрын
It's worse this "trainer" is dehumanizing the public into sheeps and wolves.
@Petey0707
@Petey0707 2 жыл бұрын
as a former addict it's terrifying, on one hand when you pick up you don't know what's going to happen, you could get robbed by your man or they get robbed and you get clipped in the process whether it be accident or not isn't the point. your life is a life of fear, from that of your dealer, your dealers rivals, the cops, the feds and the drug itself. missing that next hit means suffering through a long shift at work while trying to maintain appearances or calling off despite doing so already. so now you're in fear of losing your job, your family, your home, your sanity, etc.. it gets to the point where the ritual becomes more satisfying than doing the drug itself. and you go back for the sake of the ritual even if the drug has no effect. its madness.
@Petey0707
@Petey0707 2 жыл бұрын
as a former addict it's terrifying, on one hand when you pick up you don't know what's going to happen, you could get robbed by your man or they get robbed and you get clipped in the process whether it be accident or not isn't the point. your life is a life of fear, from that of your dealer, your dealers rivals, the cops, the feds and the drug itself. missing that next hit means suffering through a long shift at work while trying to maintain appearances or calling off despite doing so already. so now you're in fear of losing your job, your family, your home, your sanity, etc.. it gets to the point where the ritual becomes more satisfying than doing the drug itself. and you go back for the sake of the ritual even if the drug has no effect. its madness.
@SJKlapecki
@SJKlapecki 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot describe just how existentially terrifying it is to hear someone with the supposed obligation to protect me say they'd rather "be judged by 12." Literally all my life the propaganda around cops has been "they would die to protect innocent civilians," and while I've known that's not true for a while, it's still scary to know how THEY know it's not true either.
@FrozEnbyWolf150
@FrozEnbyWolf150 3 жыл бұрын
It's also grossly misleading, because cops have a different set of legal principles applied to them, specifically Qualified Immunity. They aren't going to even be "judged by 12." They'll simply get away with it most of the time. At most, they'll be shuffled around, like the war criminals in our government, or the predatory priests in the church.
@uanime1
@uanime1 3 жыл бұрын
@Just a Jumbled Reviewer "Literally all my life the propaganda around cops has been "they would die to protect innocent civilians,"" And they often do. Especially when criminals start shooting at these civilians and they're tasked with shooting this criminal before they kill more people.
@uanime1
@uanime1 3 жыл бұрын
@@FrozEnbyWolf150 "because cops have a different set of legal principles applied to them, specifically Qualified Immunity." Because their job involved preventing criminals from attacking people. "They'll simply get away with it most of the time." Citation needed.
@FrozEnbyWolf150
@FrozEnbyWolf150 3 жыл бұрын
@@uanime1 It's rare for any police to face conviction for fatal shootings of civilians. Every year in the US, the police kill 900-1,000 civilians, but between 2005 and 2019, only 35 ever faced conviction. Only 4% of police calls involve violent crime at all, and an analysis of incidents involving police even in cities with high crime rates found that only 1% of cases fit the FBI definition of violent crime. So your statement about "preventing criminals from attacking people" has no basis in reality. The cases of killings by police cited in this video had nothing to do with police stopping active shooters or assaults.
@SomeSomeCruzz00
@SomeSomeCruzz00 3 жыл бұрын
Actually Police literally aren't obligated to protect anyone. They fought in court over it
@mizjulio
@mizjulio 3 жыл бұрын
'The video was made possible by: ...' Me not seeing the names: wow, by skittles, so true
@thelocalmaxtax
@thelocalmaxtax 3 жыл бұрын
Hrm, starting to think the guy who came up with "killology", might not be a good person to use for an organization already infamous for their willingness to abuse power.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 3 жыл бұрын
Especially because he literally wants to train them to “kill without conscious thought” like.... just saying “kill first think later” actually out loud?? Not even being subtle about it?
@courtney1329
@courtney1329 3 жыл бұрын
"fucking mad, bruv" indeed, holy shit
@oddtail_tiger
@oddtail_tiger 3 жыл бұрын
Even ignoring the ridiculous mentality of police officers thinking they're some kind of superhuman, the "sheepdogs" metaphor falls apart when you remember that actual sheepdogs don't tend to, y'know, accidentally (or "accidentally") kill a large number of sheep.
@sorzin2289
@sorzin2289 3 жыл бұрын
The funny thing about that term is that it's used by leftists against liberals and soc Dems like for trying to herd people in to a malaise complacency stifling any sort of change.
@katbrooks6570
@katbrooks6570 3 жыл бұрын
My uncle offered to teach me to drive while in the US and the FIRST thing he tought, before I was even near a car, was to leave the car if a cop pulled you over. To not reach for anthing even if they asked for your licence, I was told to direct the cop to it not get it myself because I would be shot. That has haunted me everytime I'm in a car, knowing I could be killed by a cop for following instructions.
@Hekateras
@Hekateras 2 жыл бұрын
I've never set foot in the US, but when a bunch of uni students in my year were planning to go to Boston for a conference/contest thing, the "how to behave if you're pulled over by police" was part of an info pamphlet handed to us. Horrifying stuff.
@trombonemain
@trombonemain 3 жыл бұрын
hold up...“razorblades put into a hat”??? are you telling me that a literal weapon from fucking jojo’s bizarre adventure was featured in a police training video???
@toritwopointoh
@toritwopointoh 3 жыл бұрын
do they think the homeless are wolves? the people with no health, little strength and general dissociation?
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 3 жыл бұрын
Also the irony that dogs are literally genetically wolves..... yet that story they tell themselves somehow separates them. But if you’re already primed to think cops are just thugs and criminals with a license to get away with it, it stands out even more. And then the guy went and said “they’re stupid if you think wolves are the same as sheepdogs” to deflect from it! Which means he’s thought about it too!
@wesamc9333
@wesamc9333 3 жыл бұрын
This is hands down KZbin's most underrated channel
@apteropith
@apteropith 3 жыл бұрын
the cops talk like they're storming the beaches of normandy, when they're already there, uphill, manning the guns pointed at the shore
@devifoxe
@devifoxe 3 жыл бұрын
A society that needs "school protection" It is so rotten that only thing you can do is dismantle it from the core and star agent
@uanime1
@uanime1 3 жыл бұрын
The USA needs "school protection" because so many people oppose gun control.
@guy-sl3kr
@guy-sl3kr 3 жыл бұрын
We don't need "school protection", the state just wants another avenue of controlling the lives of poor and minority people. The cops at my high school were literally just hall monitors that kept tabs on black and brown kids. When there were fights, they were the last people to show up and if there ever were to be a school shooting, I'm certain they would be completely helpless.
@NA-AN
@NA-AN 3 жыл бұрын
*start again
@Aloemancer
@Aloemancer 3 жыл бұрын
I was actually shown that Surviving Edged Weapons training video as part of my training course to be a security guard at a homeless shelter in the US in 2017.
@KayAndSkittles
@KayAndSkittles 3 жыл бұрын
Yo that's fucking terrifying.
@Aloemancer
@Aloemancer 3 жыл бұрын
@@KayAndSkittles it was at the time, and even more so after I left the job and radicalized and looked back at the tiny bit of police-style indoctrination I had received.
@River_StGrey
@River_StGrey 3 жыл бұрын
It's not just that training like Dave's exists. Promotions within PD's are often predicated on having attended seminars or workshops like his, where it sort of signals to your superiors that you're on board with what they teach and want to enforce those teachings within the hierarchy. My dad was SWAT and was telling me once about how he attended a workshop along those lines, and how it had opened up all kinds of doors for advancement with him. It's baked into the fundamental structure and is an essential part of the culture. Can't reform that shit, it needs to be abolished.
@Jupiter065
@Jupiter065 3 жыл бұрын
"training" police out of this mindset is like trying to push back a tsunami with a garden hose
@TweakinKhole
@TweakinKhole 3 жыл бұрын
How are we sheep... but when a 7 year old picks up a toy gun... he becomes the biggest wolf imaginable?
@JaeshaunDT
@JaeshaunDT 3 жыл бұрын
because its just bullshit rhetoric meant to manipulate peoples thinking to be in line with the actions of ones who perpetuate it
@whatifiputsomethingsilly
@whatifiputsomethingsilly 3 жыл бұрын
Pet Skittles and defund the police
@CallMeMrRook
@CallMeMrRook 3 жыл бұрын
In that order
@whatifiputsomethingsilly
@whatifiputsomethingsilly 3 жыл бұрын
@@CoryPchajek Yep but if we spread the actual meaning with the slogan it's fine
@riotdancesquadleader1047
@riotdancesquadleader1047 3 жыл бұрын
@@CoryPchajek people are going to do bad faith attacks on every slogan we try, so fuck it, just say what we mean. Defund is the moderate position.
@riotdancesquadleader1047
@riotdancesquadleader1047 3 жыл бұрын
Also “if the police don’t have funds they won’t be able to police” is uhhhh exactly the desired outcome
@Ebiscuses
@Ebiscuses 3 жыл бұрын
The part where you mentioned cops having to watch videos of other cops being murdered during training reminded me of a video I watched about Andrew Brannan. The KZbinr JCS did a video talking about the case; he was a SEVERELY PTSD-stricken Vietnam war veteran in the 90’s who had an episode after not taking his meds and ended up murdering a cop after being pulled over for speeding. What’s interesting is, most people who talk about the case dont view Brannan as some monster because they sympathize with how fucked up the war made him (he witnessed like a dozen of his friends get blown to bits during the war), military members who didn’t even KNOW him defended him during his trial because of it; but he wound up getting the death penalty anyways because the murder was recorded and shocked the jury so deeply by how brutal it was. It was clearly a freak accident that couldn’t have been prevented other than by... you know... not waging a brutal war in Vietnam? Although, What JCS didn’t talk about in his video was that, Regardless of all the uniqueness of the situation, it hasn’t stopped the video from being the most popular one showed to cops in training without ANY CONTEXT prior.
@Ebiscuses
@Ebiscuses 3 жыл бұрын
It’s sad because the cop who was murdered seemed to understand the situation in the video. He showed restraint because he knew he was dealing with a mentally ill person and didn’t want to murder him, yet police forces DEMONIZE him for not using deadly force, and condition officers to think what happened that day was some normal occurrence and not some freak accident caused by a horrible WAR.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ebiscuses “if you give anyone even a moment of consideration.... they’ll kill you!” I mean hell, just that supercut of different people all casually whipping out knives had me feeling like it was common and easy, even though I’m fully aware of all the editing and shooting techniques they were employing to increase fear. But these cops are told it’s just like real life and all their coworkers are agreeing! Super fucked up.
@firetarrasque4667
@firetarrasque4667 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot describe the cold horror I experienced when I heard the words "He's just a gangster, fuck him".
@bernardo.bridon
@bernardo.bridon 3 жыл бұрын
"It's what most psychologists call 'fucking mad, bruv'" Holy shit I spilled my water
@danomfuta6915
@danomfuta6915 3 жыл бұрын
I have truly never heard of a more apt name for someone so loathsome: 'Grossman. '
@Syurtpiutha
@Syurtpiutha 3 жыл бұрын
I keep expecting Tom Cruise's character from Tropic Thunder and end up disappointed every time.
@latagiacopeland-tyroncemsw269
@latagiacopeland-tyroncemsw269 3 жыл бұрын
As an Afro-American woman, activist, advocate and journalist I want to sincerely thank you for this video:-). Moreover, not only do I wholeheartedly agree with you here but would like to point out that all of your (correct and valid) arguments apply not only to the police and police brutality but to the American child welfare system (also known as child protective services) especially as it relates to Black people and the legal destruction of the Black family something that I have both experienced (along with the unjust criminal justice system) and fought against for the past 5 plus years. #AbolishThePolice #AbolishCPS
@latagiacopeland-tyroncemsw269
@latagiacopeland-tyroncemsw269 3 жыл бұрын
@Azhag Dark very very true!
@RunningGladeXStray
@RunningGladeXStray 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing up this point. If you have the time could you point me towards resources to learn more? This subject is near to my heart.
@samb3209
@samb3209 3 жыл бұрын
@@RunningGladeXStray I personally was really moved by the book “When the Welfare People Come” by Don Lash!
@samb3209
@samb3209 3 жыл бұрын
@@RunningGladeXStray I also like the journal article “Race, Gender, and Poverty Governance: The Case of the U.S. Child Welfare” by Kerry Woodward but it is not available for free
@xXEvangelXx
@xXEvangelXx 3 жыл бұрын
I was really curious about CPS, I saw some video compilations where people are basically just telling them to go to hell and it seemed really strange to me
@benfawefwaeffwaefawfdekk2080
@benfawefwaeffwaefawfdekk2080 3 жыл бұрын
Officer A. Cab? Grossman? Kojima would be embarrassed at how accurate these names are, I love it.
@Gayu4567
@Gayu4567 3 жыл бұрын
WHY are they quoting Hitler unironically. I truly don't understand this.
@DanniBiersack
@DanniBiersack 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking all this stuff was mentioned by That Dang Dad and then you brought him up. Another thing is that I swear police have a very cliquey mindset and if, as an officer, you report a fellow officer for anything like using too much force you'll likely get ostracised or even fired. The whole police culture is fucked, I saw a video of someone going undercover in the police in the UK and one of the officers said if he saw 4 Pakistani men in a car, hed pull them over (ofc he used a slur when he said it)
@cloud3147
@cloud3147 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Your comment ab the cliquey mindset immediately made me think of this great piece by a former cop who talks about that. medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard-cop-bb14d17bc759
@Necromancer1230
@Necromancer1230 3 жыл бұрын
I do highly reccomend looking into Adrian Schoolcraft as well, his fellow cops literally got him institutionalized in a mental hospital against his will because he was reporting on a lot of the fraudulent arrests the NYPD was making in the 2000s.
@ursafava6304
@ursafava6304 3 жыл бұрын
That Dang Dad is a great channel, and I was so happy to see him included in this video.
@antiawarenessawarenessclub
@antiawarenessawarenessclub 3 жыл бұрын
Eye opening and terrifying video. Reminds me of a quote "A protocol is designed to get exactly the results that you see". When you have this kind of police education, of course the result we see is what we see
@evanwang328
@evanwang328 3 жыл бұрын
13:28 defending the beaches of Normany would be a more apt metaphor for American cops lmao.
@steerpike66
@steerpike66 3 жыл бұрын
We also need to make it politically toxic for any politician to take donations or endorsements from the police or any of their organizations. The whole idea of doing so is open corruption.
@FrozEnbyWolf150
@FrozEnbyWolf150 3 жыл бұрын
There's a certain irony behind Grossman's "wolves" metaphor. Wolf attacks on humans are extremely rare in modern times, and you can count the number of fatal encounters on one hand. You're far more likely to be killed by domestic dogs, with 30-50 fatalities occurring every year in the US due to dog bites. So while everyone is terrified of wolves coming out of nowhere and attacking them, nobody suspects the dogs they use to guard their property will ever turn on them.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 3 жыл бұрын
Plus, of course, dogs are just wolves we bred anyway
@peribow
@peribow 3 жыл бұрын
I go to the school who reported the Kentucky Police story, and when people talked about it I assumed it was like a quote in a handbook, which would have still been bad, but my jaw DROPPED when I saw the article. what the fuck.
@LogicGated
@LogicGated 2 жыл бұрын
Grossman is pretty aptly named.
@Para2normal
@Para2normal 3 жыл бұрын
There also needs to be a thorough overhaul of the judicial system, when police do appear in court (not frequently enough IMO) in cases such as the ones mentioned the jury often percieves them as the "victim" . I have no clue as to how that can be adressed by the way.
@TheCountOfMommysCrisco
@TheCountOfMommysCrisco 3 жыл бұрын
There's one point I like to make which isn't really broached in this video, and that's to approach the subject from a wholly logistical perspective without having to moralize anything. By their inherent nature, police are a *reactive* institution. They generally arrive *after* a crime has taken place, gather information and conduct investigations. The only real exceptions being when they're harassing citizens in search of minor offences like drug possession so they can pretend to be proactive. This leads to an easy analogy which highlights the whole problem in how we're dealing with crime - Dental health. In this analogy, crime is tooth pain and cops are dentists. As a society, we're letting our teeth rot and then making expensive emergency dental visits regularly, and pretending like that's just how it's supposed to work. What the Defund the Police movement want is for our society to learn how to *brush its fucking teeth* and proactively address the causes of crime *before* it becomes something we need to take drastic action against.
@onivlasbrony7432
@onivlasbrony7432 3 жыл бұрын
Giving paraoïa, guns, legal immunity, a sense of superiority and a essentialist world view to those meant to protect us : what could possibly go wrong ?
@cassiedevereaux-smith3890
@cassiedevereaux-smith3890 3 жыл бұрын
Fund lipstick knives for sex workers. That shit's badass.
@riotdancesquadleader1047
@riotdancesquadleader1047 3 жыл бұрын
watching again bc it takes me 900 times to fully absorb information and imagining loggers acting like they're storming the beaches of normandy every day lmao
@amberhoward7807
@amberhoward7807 3 жыл бұрын
Omfg no wonder police act with such backlash to the smallest things... When you are trained to think that everything is a threat and that everything must be met with violence, they are literally just feeling like violence will always just come out of no where... Living in such a high state of anxiety like that will put your nerves to the test and that one call will break that last nerve...
@randomtinypotatocried
@randomtinypotatocried 3 жыл бұрын
I've been exposed to a very similar philosophy in EMS where I use to work in. The level of dehumanizing people, especially the homeless was disgusting. No wonder I didn't last long term in that environment
@xXEvangelXx
@xXEvangelXx 3 жыл бұрын
Even in EMS? What the fuck? Can you go into more detail?
@badluckrabbit
@badluckrabbit 2 жыл бұрын
y i k e s even emergency services gets fed this "everyone who isn't us is the enemy" crap?
@brendanreece8625
@brendanreece8625 2 жыл бұрын
@@badluckrabbit As a paramedic I can speak to this. 1. Lots of people didn't get into EMS because they wanted to help people, but because it is a job. During my preceptorship I was shocked by the amount of disgruntled and disinterested paramedics who were less interested in positive patient outcomes and more interested in getting them to the hospital so that they're "someone else's problem". 2. Bad experiences with patients make people jaded. Seeing the same belligerent people day in and day out wears on you. Especially if they often present as agitated and hostile. It makes medics more prejudicial of "similar people" (i.e. homeless people). It isn't right, but when you've almost been stabbed by more than one person, the prejudice starts to become reflexive as a defense mechanism. 3. Compassion fatigue. It becomes very exhausting to be emotionally invested in every patient you see, especially if it's hour 8 of a 12 hour shift. Factor in PTSD from bad calls, and you can forget about any kind of empathetic response toward a patient. Lots of senior medics you see are just going through the motions, because they've learned that caring too much can get you hurt; in the long run that will break you. 4. Actually shittiness and prejudice from their upbringing. Definitely is a thing. It only gets exacerbated by the points listed above.
@jayda3237
@jayda3237 3 жыл бұрын
Based and abolitionist-pilled
@Harpysisters
@Harpysisters 3 жыл бұрын
Grossman's videos feel like what people assume ISIS training videos to be like.
@xXEvangelXx
@xXEvangelXx 3 жыл бұрын
It's basically the same fucking thing, Lmao you can watch those videos
@NA-AN
@NA-AN 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if ISIS qoutes Attila the Hun.
@inciaradible7144
@inciaradible7144 3 жыл бұрын
'Sir, why did you need to feel to quote Adolf Hitler? Do you want to be associated with genocide?' 'I think it's an interesting quote and I want to be associated with interesting quotes.' - Grossman, probably.
@AsronomyMoe
@AsronomyMoe 3 жыл бұрын
I remember that exact RLM video and had similar thoughts as you. It made it much easier to see what people are talking about when they say that the police see enemies everywhere.
@radicalrazel9156
@radicalrazel9156 3 жыл бұрын
An additional point for fellow Europeans: Our police forces either have the same mindset, or are learning that mindset. The US is very much the tail that wags the dog here. Violence against ethnic minorities and homeless people is a problem over here too. (To my Norwegian comrades) Denne dritten skjer her også. Norge er også en rasistisk poltistat, men vi har bare gjort en grundigere jobb i å ignorere det. Anti-SIAN demoer i Oslo f.eks blir møtt med shit som ville fått fuckings Haugli til å nøle. Ghettoisering og gentrifisering skjer på nye nivåer. Alle i Oslo vet at vestkant fester har drugs og alko opp til øra, men det er på Grønland du finner poltibilene parkert. Vi har lover mot hatsytringer, men Polti beskytter fortsatt Nordfronten når de har demo uttafor en Synagoge. Eins, zwei, drei, Nazi Politsei! No Justice, No Peace, Abolish the Police
@acryliceel
@acryliceel 3 жыл бұрын
i missed you so dearly, skittles (kay you're pretty alright too)
@riotdancesquadleader1047
@riotdancesquadleader1047 3 жыл бұрын
Tag yourself I'm the guy with the razor blade hat
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 3 жыл бұрын
It reminded me of Peaky Blinders... using a hidden razor in the brim of a cap. Not sure you could ever make it stealthy with a modern baseball cap though.. those guys sewed it in between the layers and stuff.
@sweetlemongrassify
@sweetlemongrassify 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Kroll (Mlps Police Union Head) did retire but he was going to retire at the end of May anyway. He'll still receive full benefits. Our city council has announced their "commitment" to defund the police... like they did in June. Gov Walz and Mayor Frey's only response has been to mobilize the National Guard and declare curfews. It's been incredibly inspiring to see people working towards change, especially the comrades maintaining the autonomous zone at George Floyd Square. But my god, it is also so disheartening to see the system fight only to defend itself.
@groundzero1077
@groundzero1077 3 жыл бұрын
During my sophomore year of high school, I took a class on The Principles of Law Enforcement and Public Security. Throughout the whole year, some of the most common questions asked by other students were "When can I shoot them?" or "Why not just shoot them?" and it always bothered me how these were the types of people who want to be police in the first place. In that class, I learned that not only is police training highly flawed, it's a job that just naturally attracts the worst kinds of people.
@Hekateras
@Hekateras 2 жыл бұрын
A crucial addendum. Every suggestion on police "reform" presumes good faith and that most police officers WANT to "protect and serve". But that's like trying to reform "chief executioner" as a profession. Once the job starts attracting people who are specifically interested in wielding power over others, there's no hope for it.
@SparkySywer
@SparkySywer 3 жыл бұрын
Grossman's sheep/wolves/dogs speech just sounds like that really cringe speech at the end of the South Park guy's America movie.
@bloomper
@bloomper 3 жыл бұрын
I would happily have Skittles as my psychiatric advisor
@amberhoward7807
@amberhoward7807 3 жыл бұрын
What was sickening to me was this same type of speeches were given at my brother's graduation ceremony from the Air Force.... I was just wondering wtf this dude is talking about... Like we are all just sitting here and you are so passionate about everyone being a Christian and so passionate about giving anyone who goes against anything the AF says what they deserve and shunning them. He displayed very violent gestures and said very violent words to describe it... I was so taken back by it and was just thinking "Is this fool for real rn...? This is just a graduation ceremony... Chill the eff out A hole!"
@LexYeen
@LexYeen 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Grossman has a very apt name, wouldn't you all agree?
@pauliuseidukas7020
@pauliuseidukas7020 3 жыл бұрын
How would this translate to European countries, like the UK, Sweden or Norway? I've experienced that people in those countries hold the police in high regard, and when told that the institution has to go, often say that there's no need, as the police is not weaponized and brutal like the American one.
@KayAndSkittles
@KayAndSkittles 3 жыл бұрын
In the UK at the very least the police are still enormously racist even if they murder people at a much, much lower rate. Obviously the contradictions are much less obvious in Europe than in the USA right now but in many European countries try protesting against capital like they've done in France and you'll see how "not brutal" the police can be, unfortunately. It's definitely true that public opinion of the police is higher throughout Europe and tbh public opinion of the police in the US only really started to dip in recent years. The problem is the role police play in defending capital, whether or not they're killing tons of people every year. And so the case for defunding and abolition remains the same. It's actually a huge problem in Europe that people use the US as an extreme example to ignore problems in their own police force, so the focus on the FUNCTION they serve rather than their body count is more useful I think.
@GA1313E
@GA1313E 3 жыл бұрын
As a Swede, a country that spends very little on police and has a relatively non-militarized. There are still regularly incidents where the police (and other organizations such as security guards) make the headlines and are releavled to have similar problems to the american police. Like having racist slurs in their training programs, keeping lists of activities of minorities who have not commited crimes, racial profiling, lying and protecting their own as well as use of excessive force against people of colour, people with disabilities and agaist protestors. For example: in 2014 when a nazi political party held a speech in malmö as a part of their election campaign there was a public uproar and more than 800 people crammed on to the square to protest (against the 7 nazis...). The police in Malmö hit people with their cars, lied about "antifa" bringing ballons with chemicals to scare their dogs and had their mounted officers charge into a crowd of mosty peaceful protestors. The scale is not the same, but the problems are the same. Defunding seems a less potent slogsn as they are underfunded. But the racism and militarization is the same.
@subalternprecariat
@subalternprecariat 3 жыл бұрын
I would say that you're not speaking to the racial minorities or the marginalised people in those societies to get a better sense what different demographics of people in those places feel about police. This next line isn't directed towards you necessarily, but I found that it's a common conceit among the social majority, particularly ones situated in the middle-class to say "well, we're not like those crazy Americans" and do no investigation on how their societies engage in policing. Just because the UK (for example) doesn't have a George Floyd, doesn't mean it doesn't have a Sean Rigg, Seni Lewis, Mark Duggan, Dean Atkinson, or Bibaa Henry and Nicole Smallman. Ask the women in the UK how safe they feel about police knowing what happened to Sarah Everard, who wasn't black or working-class. Always ask from the most marginalised. I bet that the answer is always the same.
@riotdancesquadleader1047
@riotdancesquadleader1047 3 жыл бұрын
my God Skittles only gets more powerful. When will she be stopped?!
@leodashers
@leodashers 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this. I think it would be interesting to look at the Puritan aspect of our society and how Christian-dominated that remains, and how it feeds into the “pure good vs dirty evil” narrative as well. To loosely connect this there’s a great article by the Black Agenda Report called “Western Marxism Loves Purity and Martyrdom, But Not Real Revolution” it really goes into that in greater detail particularly on the left as well.
@elijahanderson3288
@elijahanderson3288 3 жыл бұрын
Agree with everything you said. Except, Christianity isn't the problem; our bastardized view of Christianity is the problem.
@nirreznik8567
@nirreznik8567 3 жыл бұрын
With Dave Grossman talking and sounding like a common zealot pastor who preach his dogma to his devoted followers (the us copes) and the cop "training" video looking more like a low budget Christian 80's film (or any low budget religious film of it's time) and the fact that the cops reinforce those beliefs to each other by repeating the same sentence (just like how religious fanatics do) and Dave being praised for who he is by the same cops make the the us police more like a religious group like a cult you could call them "church of the police" But Dang Dad last clip pushed this view further into the realm of fascism.
@ArK047
@ArK047 3 жыл бұрын
Every where I go, Rich Evans' laughter haunts me.
@hgreen7422
@hgreen7422 3 жыл бұрын
Love this channel. Great content and seeing skittles being adorable at the beginning of each video is the best
@DiThi
@DiThi 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the very best videos about the problems with police. Right there with Cody's videos about systemic racism. But this one brings a lot of info I didn't know about, thanks.
@charlieni645
@charlieni645 3 жыл бұрын
Dude's IRL Liberty Prime holy shit.
@perhaps1094
@perhaps1094 3 жыл бұрын
@@vintheguy anti communist death robot from the fallout games
@ripyungbruh8157
@ripyungbruh8157 3 жыл бұрын
@@perhaps1094 all caps when ya spell the mans name
@racewiththefalcons1
@racewiththefalcons1 3 жыл бұрын
That psychopath also included a quote from Albert Einstein. Who was a socialist. Evidently, this fact escaped Mr. Psychopath.
@juicebox9465
@juicebox9465 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus, that trainer guy sounds like he is reading off the Taxi Driver script.
@mranderson4739
@mranderson4739 3 жыл бұрын
Skittles power level is off the charts!
@caseyw.6550
@caseyw.6550 3 жыл бұрын
Well, this was horrifying.
@darkninjafirefox
@darkninjafirefox 3 жыл бұрын
There's a snowstorm outside and this is so much more chilling, not surprising- just painful
@baldomerian7742
@baldomerian7742 3 жыл бұрын
This video was particularly haunting.
@dearratboy
@dearratboy 3 жыл бұрын
very well put. ty skittles
@QuestingRefuge
@QuestingRefuge 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. This is what I think when I see a 9 year old pepper sprayed by a cop. It's exactly what their training has taught them to do.
@patrickholt2270
@patrickholt2270 3 жыл бұрын
Open apologetics for murder, packaged as Christian piety, predicated on defining membership in law enforcement as a boundary of virtue, and discarding the Biblical moral anthropology in which good and evil are in every individual so that no "them" can be identified as evil per se. The heresy and blasphemy are stark.
@astro4671
@astro4671 3 жыл бұрын
you deserve way more subs than you have, such high quality content
@laborkyle
@laborkyle 3 жыл бұрын
you're brilliant kay. good work.
@laborkyle
@laborkyle 3 жыл бұрын
this is because of the piss metaphor for the record
@LukeExists
@LukeExists 3 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic analysis. Thank you.
@richardsorge2001
@richardsorge2001 2 жыл бұрын
if a sheepdog regularly kills sheep, that is a baaaad dog and we all know what happens to bad dogs.
@orionpadden6290
@orionpadden6290 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video it educated me a lot on The core. Problems within The police department and helped me move some friends over. Greatly appreciated keep up the good work
@emberdragon4248
@emberdragon4248 3 жыл бұрын
What made them think that leaving so much power over the policing industry in the hands of a single person was a good idea?
@amazingkool
@amazingkool 3 жыл бұрын
Don't mind me, just adding this to my favorites playlist so I can easily refer back to it.
@luknepo
@luknepo 3 жыл бұрын
This was really informative. Thank you!
@Mymindischaos1
@Mymindischaos1 2 жыл бұрын
O. M. G..... Loved how u portrayed biden. And quite accurately with those 4 pics Edit: now I gotta seriously know.... Was I the only one who started to lmao when I saw the vald eagle staring through the screen with the USA flag in the background???
@Frizzleman
@Frizzleman 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Love the shout out to that dang dad.
@racewiththefalcons1
@racewiththefalcons1 3 жыл бұрын
You can't reform this.
@an8strengthkobold360
@an8strengthkobold360 3 жыл бұрын
I can't be the only one who thought of speed wagon when I saw the hat.
@dionisispapantonis4325
@dionisispapantonis4325 2 жыл бұрын
This video is my response to anyone who tries to convince me ACAB isn't valid
@thepopulargirl1784
@thepopulargirl1784 3 жыл бұрын
It's a misconception to think it's just the training that contributes to the "I'd rather be judged by twelve" mentality. Even if they've been trained to avoid violent actions, if the officers know that the moment they step out of line that they'll experience no consequences, then the training is pointless. The police unions help contribute to this too, as they help bring back officers that have been fired for misconduct (including incidents which led to fatalities), and basically prooving to these officers, and all the other officers as well, that there is no consequences for brutalizing civilians.
@Devilot109
@Devilot109 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, hey, someone else who just watches RedLetterMedia for Best of the Worst. And I know where you're going with this.
@Devilot109
@Devilot109 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, hey, food delivery driver *also* is more dangerous than being a cop, but it's not separately listed on that list.
@giovannajacobus1474
@giovannajacobus1474 3 жыл бұрын
idk how your voice manages to sound so soothing while talking about such a harrowing subject but congrats i think?
@EnbyNomad
@EnbyNomad 3 жыл бұрын
Rise up comerades. Don't settle for the status quo!
@ernestoacosta7918
@ernestoacosta7918 3 жыл бұрын
Sheepdogs came from wolves, why would we expect them to act different cause they had a job to uphold
@utterlyfunstoppable
@utterlyfunstoppable 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, Skittles. I will be emailing you one million dollars.
@matheusvillela9150
@matheusvillela9150 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, Grossman just quoted that speech from American Sniper...or American Sniper took it from him, which is more likely.
@SomeSomeCruzz00
@SomeSomeCruzz00 3 жыл бұрын
they took it from him
@SnoFitzroy
@SnoFitzroy 3 жыл бұрын
am i the only one who thought the initials on RLM's table were for "breath of the wild"?
@GodofThundeification
@GodofThundeification 3 жыл бұрын
here to provide engagement and bump u up in the algorithm. this video is excellent and aligns with my interests as an 18-27 year old male and person who admires police officers
@ansongordon-creed4047
@ansongordon-creed4047 2 жыл бұрын
KZbin needs people like you to take on old subjects from a new angle/with new sources.
@Wish-and-Hope
@Wish-and-Hope 3 жыл бұрын
"Suspect with back to you can spin around and shoot first", "suspect can run up from 20 ft and stab you before you can get your gun". Somebody played too much (bad) Pen&Paper, I see?
@Bluecho4
@Bluecho4 3 жыл бұрын
The first thing that needs to be done about the police is a complete turnover. Nobody who is currently a police officer should remain a police officer, and should be barred from ever getting a job in that capacity ever again. The very fabric of police culture is tainted on a fundamental level. This is why trying to ban the airing of Grossman's seminars doesn't work; the veterans and police "unions" will show them to newbie cops on their own time. Banning things like choke holds or the like won't work, because existing cops will just tell the newbies to ignore it. Obviously, policing as an institution needs to be defunded, shrunk, and replaced by non-violent departments with democratic, community-oriented oversight. That's absolutely necessary. But if there's any force of armed officers that would exist in the new civil paradigm, they must be fresh blood, untainted by decades (rather centuries) of toxic police culture. If that doesn't happen, we'll never make true progress. On the upside, removing all current cops from the "pool" of officers would neatly solve the issue of the police "unions" resisting the change. They can't use their collective non-action as a political threat if we explicitly don't want them operating in the first place. They would be threatening us with a good time.
@MrKakibuy
@MrKakibuy 3 жыл бұрын
I never cringed so hard in my life when you presented that "warrior mindset" presentation. Its just cringe that a serious organization uses this as training material.
@LukeMcGuireoides
@LukeMcGuireoides 2 жыл бұрын
There's an amazing episode of the PBS documentary series Frontline on police training. It's shocking
@LukeMcGuireoides
@LukeMcGuireoides 2 жыл бұрын
It's free here on yt
@beansfebreeze
@beansfebreeze 3 жыл бұрын
There's a fantastic Some More News video on police training. Highly recommend everyone watch that as well.
@jodiebradshaw7524
@jodiebradshaw7524 3 жыл бұрын
Really informative stuff, thanks for making!
@eve36368
@eve36368 3 жыл бұрын
17:01 **The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell!**
@stm7810
@stm7810 3 жыл бұрын
Can't think of anything that relevant so here's an algorithm boost. “Minecraft" "asmr" "pewdiepie" "music" "fortnite" "markiplier" “KZbin is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "Dream" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Pokemon cards" "card unboxing" "charizard" "they don't want you to know" "Flat earth" "round earth" "triangle earth" "earth is not earth" "what even is earth if not earth omg government is lying to you" "minecraft" "asmr" "pewdiepie" "music" "fortnite" "markiplier" “KZbin is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "Shadowlands" "Dream" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Halo" “KZbin is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” “Cocomelon” “
@autolycuse2554
@autolycuse2554 3 жыл бұрын
Why does it have to be in quotations? Does that do something? Just curious...
@stm7810
@stm7810 3 жыл бұрын
@@autolycuse2554 it manipulates the algorithm more. it's strange like that.
@NA-AN
@NA-AN 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine some kid watching a markeplier vid and comes across this...
@kriegscommissarmccraw4205
@kriegscommissarmccraw4205 3 жыл бұрын
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