The PROBLEM with the Chaos Emeralds in Sonic

[@damo12x]

All the stories that revolve around the chaos emeralds are the best. Maybe it’s the dragon ball fan in me but I always enjoy how it works

[@goldenninja9053]

I've always liked seeing the chaos emeralds in the games. I don't see why they could be a problem.

[@Chosen十七]

Agreed may be it’s the dragon ball fan in me

[@goddessyamato5238]

The story that involves the emeralds are just fake ass shonen plots

[@goddessyamato5238]

@@goldenninja9053 they literally appear in every game

[@Chosen十七]

@@goddessyamato5238 not in forces or lost world or mania and boom of course also it’s not fake as sonic is a Shonen character and as everyone knows is heavily based on dragon ball

[@damo12x]

The dark side of SA2 definitely revolves around the chaos emeralds. The villains literally spend most the game searching for the emeralds

[@arandomdudeontheinternet9310]

That's kinda the whole goal

[@seammen6875]

The story doesn't function if they don't, no emeralds means no space colony ark incident.

[@zsp4rky652]

@@seammen6875 yea i think shadow actually explained that in the story

[@TheSodaShop]

THE ECLIPSE CANON

[@AnonymousUser200]

They should have made it like DC or Marvel or something where there's multiple sources of attaining infinite power because the chaos emeralds are the end all be all and that sucks.

[@valtheemokid4005]

I mean the cyberspace stages are based off Sonic's memories but I don't think he's not gonna need to collect the chaos emeralds to regain his memories since he already remembered Tails and Amy in the gamescom cutscene and the story trailer. Can't wait to see what Frontiers does with the chaos emeralds tho

[@Voltricity435]

yea, there's no confirmation that sonic loses his memories, that just comes from leaks

[@Aaaa-g6u8e]

Didn't they reveal Sonic needed the Emeralds because he wasn't strong enough to defeat a powerful Titan?

[@valtheemokid4005]

@@Aaaa-g6u8e I think so idk

[@bellarosa_]

the plot is literally about searching for the chaos emeralds

[@valtheemokid4005]

@@bellarosa_ I know but I want to know he'll they'll expand on that

[@yderga8707]

While, yes, I understand Chaos emeralds are all powerful godlike tools that should be used in the proper time and place, i also think as the series grows the emeralds have become more of an accessory than the primary force behind the story. If every story was a cataclysmic event reliant on the Chaos emeralds, the stories would get stale very quickly. I think Dragon Ball has also done this, where at one point the Dragon Balls were considered legendary and more or less the entire OG show was based on finding them, in which it took them whole season arcs to collect. But now as the franchise has progressed, the Dragon Balls have become tertiary elements that they use for a "quick fix" in any situation. I think moving forward the emeralds should just become an extention/responsibility of the main trio (like the movie) , and only be used in "break glass if world is ending" situations.

[@Voltricity435]

yes, that's why it's a good thing colors and lost world didn't use the emeralds as they weren't necessary (and every story doesn't need to be world ending stakes) but they really should've used em in forces can't lie

[@yourfriendly609]

I agree, I appreciate when the main story, isn't the chaos emeralds. Its either they get over used and they become sooo boring, or they sometimes used there power, and you almost fear them, treat them like this godlike power that they have. They do good but, they can, be used to destroy the whole world. While yes, in some stories 06 *cough* I feel like there eh, but I mean, 06 whole story is eh so I dunno

[@yderga8707]

@@Voltricity435 Yeah smh, but that was forces, they made every bad decision in the book on that one.

[@yderga8707]

@@yourfriendly609 I actually like when sonic has other means of a final powerup. Like Sonics final form in Sonic and the Secret Rings was badass. I love Super Sonic, and im glad that in frontiers theyre treating the powerup as one of his basic abilities that he uses to fight bosses.

[@yourfriendly609]

@@yderga8707 oh so do I! Though, the seven rings are kinda bad. We never even seen what happens if you absorbed all seven. Sonic only absorbed 3, so it makes me upset that nothing else was did with them.

[@mitilimorres88956]

Turns out the whole memory aspect of sonic frontiers isn't really a thing just info from a bad leak the memories collected in frontiers are memory tokens as in computer memory for Sonic's friends

[@Dr.Meme-Man]

Oh no, it wasn’t a bad leak. The leak was real and was WAY back in late 2017. But Iizuka DID mention in a recent interview that the story underwent a LOT of changes through its development

[@mitilimorres88956]

@@Dr.Meme-Man well they did go through a few revisions I suppose that makes sense

[@RealmsSMPStudios]

The Chaos emeralds have a form of sentience that makes it so they will appear where they are needed most, and they don’t gain there power doesn’t come from the Master Emerald, they take the thoughts of others and turn them into power, and the chaos emeralds gravitate towards planets so people can find them, and their power is based off of the people who wield them, another thing about them is that they are sorta also a fail safe to patch up plot holes…

[@jettvalen7326]

The Master Emerald is basically like the mother of all Emeralds. It it helps to keep unison between the gems and stops their powers from falling into utter Chaos.

[@RealmsSMPStudios]

@@jettvalen7326 precise,

[@Masterplanfoiler]

@@jettvalen7326 not the mother of all the emeralds. But as it's name suggests, it's the MASTER. So basically it's the boss.

[@RealmsSMPStudios]

@@Masterplanfoiler when he says mother, that’s basically implying that it’s the boss, it’s in control, it’s the alpha, it’s the emerald to rule all emeralds…

[@ness6714]

@@jettvalen7326 Makes sense, because the Master Emerald can straight up nullify the power of the Chaos Emerald. Also, the Thoughts Into Power thing can be a tricky thing since you can already do a shit ton of stuff with just ONE.

[@Uhhhhh1188]

To me, felt like Forces was building up to the usage of the Chaos Emeralds. It made sense with Eggman taking over, and Sonic's world feeling so bleak. However they were never used in the story, and were added in as free DLC. Which still confuses me to this day (and worst was the fact that it was going to be limited time). Also, I'm starting to think the Meta Era of Sonic is dying out. So, what should the next era be named? I think it should be called the Rebirth Era. Or maybe at least a title that is based off the idea of "a comeback or revitalization."

[@Quickstein]

The Renaissance Era of Sonic

[@mistermann4163]

I will say the IDW comics have been filling in on that with a couple of things(Chaos Emeralds, Master Emerald, where the real Metal Sonic was) and if anything have been having fun as a continuation from Forces while having little to do with Forces besides putting the start of the comic on track.

[@beywheelzhater8930]

First we gotta make sure this new era IS a revitalization. Just cause Frontiers is hype now doesn't mean it'll be hype on release, remember how Forces went?

[@someonethatexist3086]

the catholic era

[@ginger9380]

It's because he already failed to take over the world with the emeralds. It's within his character to go after what he thinks is most powerful at the time. First 6 Emeralds ---> Master Emerald ---> Time Stones/Little Planet ---> all 7 Chaos Emeralds a dozen times again ---> Phantom Ruby

[@echo_sans4239]

In sonic frontiers your right that the chaos emeralds are being collected for memory restoration but I think the emeralds will help sonic and friends return to their home because they arrive through a cyber space level. They might also help you in the final battle to defeat an otherwise unbeatable boss.

[@Eldoofus]

I don't think it's as simple as that... I mean, you DO know you'll probably be able to unlock Super Sonic from the first island alone?

[@isaiahwhite7304]

Maybe they’ll utilize the master emerald for a strengthened form. Kinda like how the master sword can be buffed

[@goddessyamato5238]

@@isaiahwhite7304 the master emerald has no need if it does appear in the game it’s literally just fan service

[@HaHaHaHolowence]

*you're...

[@echo_sans4239]

@@HaHaHaHolowence thank you for the correction it was a complete accident.

[@lordraiden7397]

I think the issue is that the chaos emeralds don't have much of a consequence. Also, their powers aren't elaborated enough.

[@mray4784]

Because they are chaotic.

[@lordraiden7397]

@@mray4784 👉 🚪

[@astralking2]

i dont think i would want them to bring fleetway seeing how blood thirsty he was

[@StevenJones851]

Yeah there's no consequences

[@sean1oo1]

@@StevenJones851 I think something that could be implemented are the chaos emeralds expressing their defiance more often. In sonic rush adventure I remember tails talking about the emeralds being willing to help them return home, why not see them refuse to help or rebel in their own ways. Granted we have the master emerald to reign them in im just spitballing ideas cause there’s literally no downsides 😅

[@SplotchTheCatThing]

Definitely think Unleashed is my favourite use for the emeralds in-story. Having the story start with the emeralds already in Sonic's possession, and a core journey that revolves around returning them to where they belong, instead of hunting them down for their power, was a great way to add some strong environmentalism themes to the narrative without beating the audience over the head with those themes like the ending of Forces did. :)

[@JasLamArr91]

The Emeralds just do what the plot demands them to do. I think the Cyberspace levels are just manifestations of the person who enters them, created from their memories.

[@PhoenixPower65]

Dude the dark era may be overused but they are hella good

[@Tzarina8472]

What if there was a story where it lead you believe that the Emeralds were about to be used as a Get-outta-Jail-Free card, only it doesn't work? Suppose Sonic can only use the Emeralds properly when he's in the right mindset, otherwise the resulting transformation is a dangerous one like Dark Sonic in X or Fleetway's version of Super?

[@Blue-fg8vt]

How about this. As a baseline, in this game you got more characters than just sonic. Say tails nuckles amy shadow, maybe silver or a custom character if they do it right. And twords the end, sonic trys to use the chaos emeralds but ones a fake and that messes super sonic up makeing him go crazy. Not super sonic whoops the main threat like planned, but instead of turning normal starts destroying evreything. Then you gotta pick one of the remaining characters, chase sonic down threw two levels and deal with a boss fight where you knock him out

[@Blue-fg8vt]

@@Blue_Streak_Studios I didn't say anything about Fronteirs. Just spitting out ideas for A sonic game

[@ajaxmaxbitch]

Sonic stop motion adventures somewhat did that

[@pumpkintron8969]

12:00 I still have no idea why people think sonic lost his memories in frontiers They said "sonic doesn't know what to do" not forgot what to do

[@damo12x]

It was because of the leak that said it happened. Some people aren’t as clued up with the current frontiers news as the hardcore sonic fans. Some people still think that Chao garden will appear.

[@Dr.Meme-Man]

Okay so….SLIGHT inaccuracy. But the source of the chaos emeralds’ power ISN’T the master emerald. The master emerald was created by gods after creation in fear of the chaos emeralds being misused, as they were present before creation. And the ORIGINAL idea of the chaos emeralds was that they were hidden in different pocket dimensions during Sonic 1 & 2. Why Sonic Team ditched that concept or idea, I have no idea myself. 😅

[@DangerousArmyGuy]

I kinda wish that can come back too. Maybe the Chaos Emeralds can hide themselves by creating the pocket dimensions around themselves when they sense someone seeks them for evil purposes. Maybe as something they started doing after Pachacamac and Chaos abused them to kill so many people.

[@lpfan4491]

I still like how the gods just sorta sealed the 7th emerald on south island to avoid them being in the same place ever again...because they made a civilization vanish basically over night. And then Sonic unseals the thing just because it may be useful in a fight.

[@Dr.Meme-Man]

@@DangerousArmyGuy probably, yeah! Though that would imply that the Chaos emeralds are sentient in a way.

[@kongthornton780]

@@lpfan4491 maybe the gods should be pissed at Sonic and try to kill him in a future game

[@lpfan4491]

@@Dr.Meme-Man They are, at least to a degree. Origins revealed that the only reason Sonic knew that there was a 7th emerald and where to find it was because the other ones showed him.

[@Grannny_Remake]

Bro imagine an open world and open story game where you can just find the emeralds around (they would be hidden obviously but like you would have to explore to find them and fight a boss to get them too)

[@TheMamaluigi300]

9:30 You know, Fleetway’s Sonic the Comic actually does use the chaos emeralds in this sort of way. I mean, its version of Super Sonic is infamously chaotic, in a psychopathic way

[@DrKat]

0:47 Wow, what a strange guy, who could that be I wonder?

[@Nativefall]

i know, he makes some good stuff

[@DrKat]

@@Nativefall Dude I wish I could talk with him, he seems like a chill guy

[@guyxlife]

this man came up with a idea that teams of people couldn't come up with. to gamble with the power of the chaos emeralds i like the idea

[@draconicstar1895]

Imagine a story where it starts off with everyone trying to fight to use the chaos emeralds. In the span of one or two scenes, they bounce around between sides and are used immediately. Until their power goes crazy and causes a catastrophic event and the whole game is about preventing it.

[@Waturmehlon]

ACTUALLY my question is; "Shadow the hedgehog had the chaos emeralds in it?"

[@notredboi]

Well thats where the "Where's that DAMN fourth chaos emerald" comes from

[@rynobehnke8289]

Of cause it did. The main villains end game is to jack up his Chaos control to teleport his home base onto the planet to take over.

[@lpfan4491]

The whole point of the game is to collect them.

[@robertlupa8273]

Have you even played/watched the game?

[@highspeedhighjinx7255]

It's like the chaos emeralds have become the plot armor in some if the games.

[@georgeshaw4017]

I’m gonna just bring this out now. Since Sonic Colors all the way to Sonic Forces, the developers that SEGA hired to work on those games knew like nothing about Sonic other than a few cutscenes on Wikipedia. So basically they would of course miss a lot of opportunities because they don’t really know Sonic. That’s why Sonic is all “BALDY NOSEHAIR!” instead of his quote in Unleashed, “Do I need a reason to help out a friend?” Sonic in Sonic Unleashed was cocky but he’d also help anyone for no reason because he’s the hero and a good guy. The Sonic Colors to Sonic Forces Team did not know that at all and we got a cheesy Sonic who tries too hard to be cool to the point that it’s not cool. That group of people however is gone now. They aren’t gonna be around for Sonic Frontiers. Good riddance. With them gone I actually have hope Sonic Frontiers will be a great game! 😊👍😎💖

[@afanisthedolphin]

No game of the meta Era could ever match "It was never about chivalry for me. I just gotta do what I gotta do. That's all." Black Knight was something else man...

[@goddessyamato5238]

He literally only said blast nose hair three times and u act like thats a bad thing when sonic said cringe shit all the time and deadass what does baldy nose hair have anything to do with do I need a reason to save a friend when that was two different scenarios with two different themes

[@goddessyamato5238]

@@afanisthedolphin and then he had a whole line in colors that’s better than that

[@georgeshaw4017]

@@goddessyamato5238 It was just an example of why I prefer Jason over Rodger. Jason also had more influence on people too. In Sonic And The Black Knight, He tells the Shadow Queen that as sad as the fact that we will all pass on, he says we should make the best out of the time we have in our lives. This was before Sonic's Friends became just Cheerleaders who in other situations are absolutely useless and insignificant to Sonic that wouldn't be too different even if they weren't present in the game at all.

[@afanisthedolphin]

@@goddessyamato5238 Which was?

[@AmateurAnimations65]

I think a good rule of thumb when it comes to the chaos emeralds should be, "If you took them out of the story, what would that change?" For cases like the adventure games and unleashed, trying to rewrite them without the chaos emeralds would make a much different story, so they justify their inclusion. But for cases like Shadow The Hedgehog and Generations, all that really gives us is a super form final boss, which just as easily could've been done without the transformation. It's only there to make cool stuff happen, so it winds up feeling less like Sonic is forced to rely on this rare instance of god-like power and more like he just won a game of Uno by finishing on a +4

[@Collective_Dark]

6:43 slight correction, all the other endings and storylines are canon.

[@Collective_Dark]

The Phantom Ruby is just outright stated to be above the Master Emerald.

[@john_negs7720]

Yea they’re canon just take place in a different parallel universe/timeline

[@playerback7722]

No it isn't. Eggmam needed cause he it created clones not that it was more powerful. Also Super Sonic also beat Phantom Ruby amped opponents easily.

[@Kaidhicksii]

Give the chaos emeralds a more important role in the story, and make using them not without its risks? You know what, I'll take you up on that theory. Something I'll be doing at some point in the future is rewriting the different Sonic stories we've gotten. One of them will be Forces. This will be a neat opportunity to potentially uncover that game's hidden potential.

[@_G.C]

It'd be nice if they showed us more of this "unlimited power." It's not the 90's anymore, they don't have to be used for just a double speed and invincibility powerup anymore

[@FrostTheHobidon]

To me the chaos emeralds are a prize to get in the games and in stories to be a helpful tool to help the heroes in the end

[@sayakamikireal]

Knuckles can't just leave the master emerald shattered because it needs to be intact in order for its power to keep Angel Island floating

[@mozazr]

plus, the Master Emerald's entire job is to keep the Chaos Emeralds in line and it cannot do that while in pieces.

[@jakec4920]

In forces if they really wanted to not use the emeralds they could’ve considered making the phantom ruby nullify the emeralds power, or have it where the custom hero uses the ruby prototype to assist super sonic who could be damaged by infinite

[@Londonlink]

In Sonic Adventure 1 they were going to make Super Sonic available outside the final battle and took it out the game but data miners found dialogue that explains it.

[@Pjo-Super-Fan]

I like how they were used in Sonic frontiers first off nothing to do with memories and like the only way to stop the titans not the best use but not the worst

[@ds2561]

Well, with the use of chaos emeralds in terms of story, it could be used as world building in the case of Unleashed the gaia are used as power source for the sections of earth and having Sonic and Chip to have a world adventure having the duo explore different lands and cultures, and in Frontiers its same as unleashed with world building in starfall island and and as well as having a mysterious backstory on where they actually came from.

[@Zorinox]

Sonic has not lost his memory in Sonic Frontiers. He still remembers Amy, the Chao Garden, Tails, and so on. He has to go through these Cyberspace Stages to rescue his friends. He hasn't lost his memory.

[@playerback7722]

Yep

[@thebrownboi5443]

The creators said that his memories are lost and he needs to regain them, the levels are mashups of his memories as they're jumbled up in his mind

[@Zorinox]

If his memories are lost, *THEN HOW DOES HE REMEMBER HIS FRIENDS?* Seriously, man, *THINK.*

[@thebrownboi5443]

@@Zorinox bro that's what the creators said, you can't just say no when they made the literal story, honestly he might not remember them at the start but as he goes through cyberspace he gains memories of them, i mean it honestly looks like he's not even in a physical dimension in this game, everything loks digital so I'm curious as to of that has effected his memory

[@Zorinox]

@@thebrownboi5443 Dude, just… look. He asks this… entity… if he’s able to rescue his friends before he rescues any of them. I think. So he does remember things. Also, where did you even hear/see them say that? I need some source of information. Oh, and also, I’ve already started an argument. Do *NOT* keep this one going.

[@Rokku-D]

9:23 - That point makes me think of Fleetway Super Sonic. Really putting the "Chaos" into Chaos Emeralds.

[@LannyLeArtist]

Lul

[@syweb2]

7:10 It isn't _again,_ it's the same case of amnesia as in Heroes. It's just that he stopped caring at the end of Heroes, and all of a sudden became angsty about it again in Shadow 05. 7:50 Didn't Black Doom use Chaos Control at least once? 12:10 Turns out the in Frontiers, the Emeralds don't actually have anything to do with Sonic's memories. It's more about having visions of a previous civilization, a la the Tikal visions in Adventure.

[@the_magma_human33]

12:03 "to again, regain his memories-" I'm pretty sure that it was to fight the titans, not to regain sonic's memories in frontiers. *Btw I know this is an outdated video about frontiers but still it is funny to look back at frontiers theories before the game came out*

[@Nativefall]

It was told it was a scrapped plot due to unused lines

[@beanmchocolate3900]

So, now I’m supposed to hate Sonic Frontiers because it uses the chaos emeralds to help Sonic with his memories? No thanks. I’ll play the game for the gameplay before I complain about anything else. I play a game if it’s fun. If I want a story told to me, I’ll watch a movie. I often ignore the story outright in a game unless I’m curious about something. Dark Falz got me curious, so I pay attention to the story there to get an idea as to what this thing is, and why it attacks planets. Arcade games are great in that regard. No one cared about the story, the game was just fun. My idea of fun, running at high speeds, and taking our enemies like a badass. Boost? Meh, it’s alright. Actually using martial arts attack? Count me in! That sounds awesome!

[@progamer2009]

I honestly believe that Metal Sonic would have won in Sonic Heroes if they didn't have the emeralds on hand in that moment. The gang wouldn't be able to solve this problem with their own abilities because Metal Sonic spent the entire game copying/stealing their abilities, Chaos' powers and ALL of Eggman's resources, while Eggman was locked in a closet. The Chaos Emeralds not having any story presence prior to that final encounter with Metal Sonic only really puts this game's usage of them on par with the classic games in the series, beat game, no emeralds? No Good End! The only difference is that Heroes doesn't give us a Bad End with Metal Overlord curb stomping everyone before telling us to grab the emeralds and come back later.

[@Tom-vg6td]

Eggman literally said that.

[@starscotten]

Actually Sonic Heroes is one of those games where you CAN'T BEAT THE GAME without the Chaos Emeralds (Sonic Adventure 1&2; Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Generations for PS3, PC, and Xbox 360 also can't be beaten without the Chaos Emeralds, but they're given to you, so those games don't count). Like Sonic Rush, Sonic Heroes only has ONE ending, and that's in the Last story, ALL four team "endings", are fake! You need ALL the emeralds to BEAT the game. Thank God those special stages in Sonic Heroes are easy, otherwise the game would be unbeatable to this very day.

[@RobinSplats]

Actually, in Sonic IDW, they did beat Metal Sonic without using the Chaos Emeralds, but it took EVERYONE to bring him down, careful coordination and a TON of luck since they were getting pummeled to a paste (Sonic, Knuckles and Shadow specifically) The only "Super Form" used was Burning Blaze and that didn't last long enough to fight Metal

[@starscotten]

@@RobinSplats Sonic IDW?! Is that a fan game? If so, then I won't talk about it (since I don't play the fan games). I only play Sonic games in the MAIN series.

[@RobinSplats]

@@starscotten It's a comic book series that takes place after Forces, Ian Flynn is trying to make it work with what he's got and so far it's paying off

[@AdamSelvig]

nahhh the chaos emeralds are amazing to sonic's lore

[@elevated6941]

Like only male hedgehogs can go super? Or like doing stuff other already established gems do, like time traveling? Or like how they do just whatever they whenever they want?

[@Zpaphandlerrr]

One thing I hate about the chaos emeralds, is that only male hedgehogs can use their power, meaning that retconned super knuckles and super tails hit harder than ever.

[@william_.575]

sonic superstars fucked this theory up😭🙏

[@Dr.Meme-Man]

Oh yeah, they didn’t really properly explain why they didn’t use the emeralds in Forces. You’d have to play Mania to understand. 😅

[@ghostly4235]

I played both Mania and Forced multiple times and don’t know the reason. Could you enlighten me?

[@Dr.Meme-Man]

@@ghostly4235 much like the master emerald, the phantom ruby has the ability to “turn of” or bypass the super sonic invincibility aura. This can be seen during Mania once the phantom king got his hands on it during the final boss. He grew so powerful that super form wasn’t enough to keep Sonic from getting hurt.

[@ghostly4235]

@@Dr.Meme-Man thx 👍

[@benjaminamudoaghan]

10:54 The funny thing about this is that they basically did this in the comics, except it was teleporting the Metal Virus, instead of teleporting the sun. They could have used the chaos emeralds in the EXACT same way they did in the comics.

[@ArcLith]

“All the best Sonic stories have to do with the Chaos Emeralds”. Me: But Black Knight exists???

[@RosaFay222]

4:23 _wait a second-_ OMG you’re so right Why is Knuckles alone without any chao on the island, and cream just has one?

[@pika3173]

I love your vids keep up the good work

[@damo12x]

Knuckles is actually a terrible guardian. The only occasions we have seen the emerald in danger, he’s either had it stolen or destroyed it. Now he just doesn’t even look after it. He’s given up. He doesn’t care anymore.

[@Gnidel]

Last time we saw Master Emerald was in his story in Sonic Rivals 2. It ended with it being stolen by Rouge.

[@panch3470]

@UCiXWNET3K2tfDkGgvsXcMEA They are cannon

[@MrLedhed123]

ehhh i'll be blunt its a little early to see how Frontiers uses the chaos emeralds exactly. After all the true factual thing we got out of interviews is the fact that team sonic got concerned the chaos emeralds went missing and went to investigate.

[@Dr.Meme-Man]

I actually like how their disappearance after Generations is being used as the plot of Frontiers. I think it means even Sonic Team is aware of that problem 😅

[@goddessyamato5238]

@@Dr.Meme-Man it’s not a problem the emeralds damn near been in every game. It’s only five games to where they wasn’t apart of the plot

[@sutoriimmortal2177]

I think it'd be fun to see a sonic game where Sonic actually has to learn how to use the Chaos Emeralds. "But what about Super Sonic and Chaos Control!?" you might wonder. Well here's the thing: Sonic never learned to actually use the power of the Emeralds with any proficiency. He used Chaos Control in a moment of fear and desperation of his own death the first time around, and after he got Super Sonic for the first time in the early days the form was knocked right outa the little hedgehog. By who? By Knuckles! The guy who's cultural traditions(and their failures in the past) lend himself well to knowing how to use Chaos power with respect (or at least knowing how to wreck it from seeing him beat the bricks outa Super Sonic). Even Eggman was able to rip the Emeralds out of him once and could likely do it again. So what about a game where Sonic learns to master Chaos energy? Maybe he can go off training with Knuckles and Shadow in order to combat another threat that knows how to use Chaos energy for his own evil deeds. Just a big ol' roadtrip between 3 rival goons that all want to better their own abilities.

[@herolitovirtudez1529]

"Oh no water man is mad" idk why but thats hilarious

[@wander7812]

Lets talk about in Shadow The Hedgehog you find the first Emerald just laying around in the street, and as for some reason A GIANT GEM, but nobody is minding it at all?

[@maravreloaded]

DBZ references? In my Sonic? NO WAY. The franchise with a blonde golden spikey hair transformation.

[@analothor]

the fact show can use just one to effect time, is reason he should basically never lose, and thats not even taking into account time travel

[@murr4671]

Hey guys it's me murr ?? From impractical jokers !! NativeFall is pretty cool and so are the chaos emeralds and as I always say it's murring time

[@Nativefall]

Thanks Murr, you are not tonight’s biggest loser❤️

[@fliprist1241]

nativefall: knuckles should keep the emeralds shattered me: but what about angel island

[@analothor]

Btw black doom DID use the choas emeralds to become Devil doom, its just he didn't need to be present he's particularly connected to shadow when shadow went super so did he

[@DatJaneDoeArchive]

I kinda want a Sonic game where a completely new character finds the chaos emeralds and uses it for their own purposes, while Sonic team and Eggman fight expecting the other has them. Only to later learn someone else has them and caused a problem or created some big evil, intentionally or unintentionally. Then possibly Sonic takes them and becomes Super Sonic to defeat them. It would keep Chaos Emeralds story related but also give reason why they're never used until the end.

[@brownjacket2339]

How do they even find any emerald? They don't have the dragonball radar. If each of them have infinite power WHY make a machine that requires all of them? Why infinite times 7 is a thing?? Also I remember in Shadow tH the Devil says Shadow was created so he would gather the emeralds for him, that was the bargain. I found that one very neat piece of information would explain why Shadow seems to have a connection with the chaos power and the emeralds. But I don't know if it is ever explained or even brought up again.

[@SonicTheCutehog]

Just a plot macguffen from Sonic Adventure to Sonic Unleashed only used for the final boss and it looks like Frontiers is going to go back to that.

[@lightningtundra5261]

Great video, and I heavily agree.

[@WaterKirby1994]

The Reason the Chaos Emeralds are needed so much is because the Super Forms are locked behind them. If Sonic & Shadow were able to access the forms another way we wouldn't have gotten them at all in several games. Of course they even appear in games without the Super Forms like Sonic 1 & quite a few gamegear games. This video entirely fails to realize that.

[@killadile]

You can argue that in the “Meta Era” of Sonic (Pontac and Graff Era) that’s do to Ken Pontac and Warren Graff in my opinion bad story telling that the Emeralds are under used and that’s the reason Unleashed had the best story with the Emeralds (also a hidden gem among the older games before the “Bad Era” of Sonic starting with Colors and Free Riders even though Pontac and Graff didn’t write for Free Riders)

[@lukescrew1981]

Imagine shitting on Shadow's game

[@Basher.G]

My headcanon is that whenever Knuckles is away a forgotten character fills in for him, like Mighty Ray, Honey, etc.

[@maxwellkats]

8:44 "guys im out of toilet paper give me the chaos emeralds and i wont have explosive diarrhea" *has explosive diarrhea*

[@Radfarious]

I think the Chaos Emeralds should get new abilities depending on how many are being used. This is what I’d imagine the powers being. 1 Emerald: Chaos Control 2 Emeralds: Time Travel 3 Emeralds: Enhanced Strength 4 Emeralds: Cloning 5 Emeralds: Super Shield 6 Emeralds: Instant Regeneration 7 Emeralds: Super Transformation

[@DynomiteX246]

That’s an interesting idea actually. I like it.

[@Mugen2024]

It would be interesting if each emerald created a chaotic avatar due to the use and abuse of power, a Chaos situation

[@riccardofacella9489]

We thank Yūji Naka that in a big part of the games the Emeralds are used to unlock the non-canonical ending and that in others there are none.

[@jordanekl5383]

This bears repeating, as im sure others have said it already. Sonic Adventure2 is ALL about the chaos emeralds. Anyone thinking otherwise must not of payed any attention...

[@BasementDweller_]

I still wonder why The Chaos Emeralds weren’t used in Sonic Force’s story.

[@Not-koishi]

I miss it when the chaos emerald were hidden away in special zones instead of just being all over the place where literally anybody could just easily get one

[@vannessacastro2445]

I mean, dark story of SA2 revolved around the chaos emeralds. The eclipse cannon couldve wiped out the whole earth with the power of the emeralds. While eggman wanting to rule the world, shadow is the one who came up with this idea and wants the world to burn with the power of the chaos emeralds.

[@aghitsaplane4262]

The fleetway line of comics had super sonic be an alternate personality within sonic that would gain control and simultaneously become crazy due to use of the chaos emeralds excessive power,if they brought back something similar like super sonic being extremely destructive and causing massive collateral then it would give both a reason for the chaos emeralds to be used in some situations/games but not the smaller adventures that sonic goes on

[@lightningtundra5261]

Yes, Sonic should be more vulnerable, emotionally and physically.

[@sonicwithglasses131]

no, i want sonic to be a god

[@Banana807]

Op sonic best sonic

[@lightningtundra5261]

@@sonicwithglasses131 me too, don't get me wrong I love op characters, it is just that I like suspense and those moments where the person is knocked out then all of the sudden the open their eyes and go like " I'm not done just yet!" or whatever. But Sega balance it out a little

[@conradojavier7547]

I think the next Sonic should explore more McGuffin Jewels similar to Phantom Ruby, or Master Emerald like a New Jewel gave Sonic a New Ability that Super Sonic can't do.

[@FectoStyle4433]

There could be an agruement about the chaos emeralds in shadow the hedgehog because its the sole reason why blackdoom came to earth (fun fact black arms was already foreshadowed in adventure 2) and had shadow made beside the Maria stuff

[@KoolkidSonic]

One thing about sonic forces is the super sonic dlc, yet I agree that it’d be cool if the chaos emeralds were apart of the story.

[@jaredtherock5692]

I feel underused is a bad word to use for the modern Era of Sonic. I think it would be better said that they are underutilized. What personally bothers me the most about the Chaos Emeralds in this Era is that we've actually gotten some of the best supplemental lore about the Emeralds within this time frame in such overly subtle ways. Sonic Colors DS made the implication that Chaos Emeralds can negate the effects of draining the Hyper Go-On energy from the Wisps with the Mother Wisp fight, the Chaos Emeralds have been used to put the planet back together before implied by the progression of Unleashed (the "Seven Lights of the Earth" as Chip called them,) and Sonic Rush Adventure straight up confirmed that both the Sol and Chaos Emeralds have a will of their own. Those are JUICY lore tidbits about all powerful chaotic shiny rocks, and as you mentioned, most of the mainline past Adventure 2 doesn't take full advantage of any of that.

[@angelos4496]

I always thought that the chaos emeralds never were supposed to be found or gathered, because it's just like Sonic in Colors DS said: "It can't just be a coincidence that the Chaos Emeralds are here". Every single time the chaos emeralds are gathered either a disaster is happening or it's the main cause of it. This even applies to The Day Of Awakening where Light Gaia has to use the Emeralds to face Dark Gaia. But i like to think that in this case the Emeralds were supposed to be used specifically for that scenario. If you remove the chaos emeralds from existence, then good job, you just marked your own planet's demise, light Gaia won't be able to rebuild the world without it. There will be no new beggining anymore. I mean think about, these stones can power up machines, warp continents to dimensions ( advance 3 ), rip the planet apart, mutate a living being into whatever the hell the writer wants, go to other dimensions, create time rifts ( and funny enough never have multiple versions of them because it's beyond time. ) and even bring back people from near death state. I think these stones has too much of capabilities that no wonder it would need to be sealed away. Although even with the master emerald there in the planet, they BARELY uses it for anything ( the entire unleashed plot would be solved quickly if the master emerald was used ). I also like to think Super Sonic as a mutation just like how chaos is a mutation for that Chao when getting exposed to master emerald radiation. This always made me think about a what if... What if Sonic after becoming super so many times also ends up suffering a mutation too where it's impossible to revert? Or just what if Sonic uses so many times the chaos emeralds that he ends getting overcharged by it and finally having a negative consequence for using the emeralds despite being positive energy. Getting so strong that it becomes fatal and is necessary to use inhibitor rings just like shadow has to use. Funny how Shadow DOES have a consequence for using chaos energy. Since the emeralds also have sentience, I would love to see a case too where they need the emeralds help or something but the stones or the master one simply REFUSES to help because of so many misuses. Or make a game where the chaos emerald are the final boss and just attack everyone because it's tired of misuses lmao. ( I know the emeralds aren't that sentient, but in my opinion it should be at least like that. I like when bad stuff happens, sorry ). But sadly they never make consequences like that too, actually no consequence at all.

[@roach_loader]

Knuckles purposely shatters the Master Emerald, and it’s my headcanon that the Master Emerald is now guarded my Chaos and Tikal.

[@LoliconSamalik]

kind of a stretch to bring up the name of the emeralds, especially since the majority of the main games aren't written by english natives. Remember when Yuji Naka wanted to make a zone called "Genocide City" because the word sounded cool? Yeah, he backed out of that after finding how that genocide isn't some cool word in the english dictionary. That kind of language borrowing is very common in Japanese stories as a way of making thing look cooler to japanese audiences. Even Sonic says random english and spanish words in the original japanese dubs of his games.

[@FirestoneAnimation]

If I could, I'd rewrite Forces entirely and find room for the emeralds.

[@JustQuilted]

Why do I get the feeling he made this video just to poke fun at Shadow The Hedgehog 😂

[@lerona.martyr3811]

Actual comments about the vid 2:25 yea sometimes it could seem that way but you have to remember that the people who get them make sense to have them. Eggman and GUN are technological powerhouses that span the entire world (and in eggmans case endanger multiple planets) and have tech that can manip gravity, time, dimensions, etc 8:00 even in shadow, while they werent the best there and probably the way the game is structured didnt help it either, they are the focus. Their the central thing that the main antogonist needs to complete his plan and what the good guys need to beat him. They were involved in a plan set 50yrs ago to destroy the black arms and are the crutch of wether the earth survives or not. Saying their not important, while not technically wrong on a surfafe level due to the way the feel in the game they actual are. also slight correction he didnt loose his memory again, he never regained it in heroes 9:17 the chaos emeralds arent called the chaos emeralds due to being unpredictable. Theyre called the chaos emeralds based on chaos, they were named that way by the echidnas because they were "the gems that bring about chaos" because they were the reason he became perfect and wiped out the civilisation. In broad strokes the name is a reference to the potential danger they could bring when used for the wrong reasons or by the wrong people. In that case they absolutely lived up to their name in the dark era In essentially all the dark era sonic games the chaos emeralds are involved in the inciting incident or the plot in major ways. Like in 06 they were used to seal iblis inside of mephiles and are the only thing capable of stopping him permanently and also allowing mephiles to turn to solaris in the rush adventure its the eggmans plans to fuse the dimesions together and recreate it. In battle its for emerl to become his own person free from the control of his programing, in advanced 3 an accident with them splits the world into pocket dimensions. 11:33 i agree with you on forced cus it really was a poor idea not to use the chaos emeralds because it would have made tons of sense

[@matthewboyd8689]

Sonic vs Dr Robotnik wanting all the chaos emeralds could have been as cool as Avengers vs Thanos and the stones (especially based on the opening cut screen in Sonic Unleashed) But we never get it

[@heitorsant1759]

It is guarded by a single guy because, HE IS LITERALLY THE ONLY ECHIDNA

[@GuyOfPiss]

That intro reminds me of my favorite word.

[@LegendaryMajd]

In shadow the hedgehog they say that black doom needed the chaos emeralds to chaos control the black comet to Earth’s surfacr

[@bottomtext593]

Actually using the chaos emeralds do come with a cost as it drains your energy (in the form of rings). (Oh god I can feel the nerd and clown emojis coming)

[@bakedbeans5494]

It's a game mechanic🤡🤓.

[@raikaria3090]

We did see the Phantom Ruby v the Chaos Emeralds... in Mania.

[@jameshawkins6619]

I would love to see a story where any villain uses the emeralds and Sonic and his friends obtain some super form without the emeralds and best the villain and the whole purpose of finding the emeralds is to keep it out of the villains hands more than a get out of jail free card for themselves, kind of like Harry Potter and The Sorcerer’s Stone.

[@SonicPAJ]

Gaming's best Deus Ex Machina!

[@infiniteoctopaw]

I've always thought the chaos emeralds are semi sentient. That they WANT to be found and used by anyone and everyone who can and will use them. That's why they are so important to sooooo many cultures across all time in sonic's world. They aren't powerful, they are themselves miracles. The only thing that can stop them is the master emerald of course.

[@Rattman_4126]

Regarding Shadow the hedgehog: Chaos emeralds HAVE A BIG role in plot. According to it, 50 years ago Black Doom helped Gerald to create Ultimate lifeform entirely because Gerald promised that Shadow will collect all the 7 chaos emeralds by the time black comet returns to Earth - next 50 years. And yeah, there is a reason why Black Doom needed the emeralds. Black Arms were known as parasites, who devoured ENTIRE planets with their black comet. But, there was a thing - black comet was too weak to come through the atmosphere of yet another planet. So, Black Doom needed Chaos Emeralds for a hella big Chaos Control - to warp black comet through Earth's atmosphere. Which he does in the final story, btw. Gerald somehow found out - it's unexplained how - and he created Eclipse canon to destroy black comet. The one we saw in SA2. As we know from SA2, it also requires the chaos emeralds as energy supply. But, well, then events of SA2 happened. Gerald decided that he out of f*cks to give for humans anyway, so he repurposed ARK to collide with Earth, if 7 Chaos Emeralds would be entered into eclipse canon. During the game Shadow is tricked into collecting emeralds by Black Doom. Emeralds, of course, don't restore memories. Shadow assumes, that if he collects 7 chaos emeralds for Black Doom, he is gonna reveal his past for him. But in all fake endings Shadow does his thing and decides who he is himself, because, ahem, maybe the real treasure is not the chaos emeralds, but friends we make along the way. But, well, one thing you right - Shadow's game sucks. Not only it portarayed and labelled Shadow as a jerk, it retconned Shiro Maekawa's original idea of who the Shadow actually supposed to be. Live and learn, you may never find your way.

[@UltimateSuperX]

The thing about Black Doom and the Emeralds, he wanted to used the emeralds to warped the Black Comet to earth. The reason he left the because he thought that's all they were good for and he didn't needed them anymore, Black Doom stated himself in the final boss that he underestimated the true power of the emeralds

[@edwardo6834]

Where’s that Damn fourth Chaos Emerald?! Find the Computer Room!

[@darkkirby714]

dementia? better call not saul but the chaos emeralds :trollge:

[@Shadow_G.O.A.T]

The purpose of the Chaos Emerald in the Shadow The Hedgehog game are 100% legit. The chaos emerald are at the center of this story as Black Doom knew he needed the chaos emerald to get the black comit onto earth through chaos control. As he stated it would not have been able to survive passing the earth's atmosphere. This need of the chaos emeralds for Black Doom gave Dr Gerald leverage and reason to get black Doom's help with Doom Giving some of his blood and allowing Gerald to complete the creation of the ultimate lifeform, Shadow The Hedgehog in exchange for the emerald when Black Doom returned in 50 years. 50 years later shadow knows nothing of his past after losing his memory when falling from space down to earth in SA2 and now needs to collect all 7 chaos emerald as per the agreement made between Dr Gerald and Black Doom to get answers for who he is.

[@eliandervalderen5849]

Yeah in the comics the Chaos Emerald did not have the Master Emerald until they were backing me some guy called Mammoth Mongol they fuse 14 Chaos Emeralds worth of Chaos Emerald energy together to track them inside of it and that's where the Master Emerald came from. Oh and Chaos was not sealed inside the Master Emerald he was sealed inside of a black emerald that Dr Robotnik Eggman wherever you want to call him found

[@kowabonga3552]

No playable Silver and Blaze means NOT BUYING THE STUPlD GAME.